[gis_info] GIS computer question/recommendation (Shirley Corbett)

Tue Jun 18 15:48:29 PDT 2013

Hi,

I have quite the opposite opinion on Dell's. We have purchased seven
Dell computers in the last year (laptops and workstations).  We've had
nothing but issues with all and Dell has not provided good support for
these issues.  They won't replace anything, just keep coming a replacing
parts or have me on the phone for hours to try and trouble shoot things.

We have recently bought Lenovo's to replace the Dell's and love both the
support, power, lightness of the laptops and don't plan on going back to
Dell.  I have been a loyal customer for over ten years and it's sad that
I have to say this.  

Good luck on your purchase(s)!

Shirley Corbett
GeoSolve Inc.
541-926-2870

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   1. GIS computer question/recommendation (Erik Fernandez)
   2. FW:  GIS computer question/recommendation (Bruce Kessler)

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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:08:36 -0700
From: Erik Fernandez <ef at oregonwild.org>
To: gis_info at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [gis_info] GIS computer question/recommendation
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I'm hoping someone out there might have some insight on a recommendation
for a new GIS laptop. Generally looking for something with some kick,
but I'm not running GIS processes that are going to be setting any
records. I'm considering a Dell Latitude e6530 and the Lenovo ThinkPad
W530.  I've had a trusted tech friend suggest leaning away from Lenovo
but two GIS colleagues strongly recommending them.  Is there a consensus
out there on Lenovo as being solid or best to avoid?  Thanks for any
input- folks can just respond to me and I'll send out a single email
with any feedback if there's consensus.
Thanks,
Erik

--
Erik Fernandez
Wilderness Coordinator
Oregon Wild, formerly ONRC
(503) 283-6343 x202**

<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oregon-Wild/105124331915><http://twitter.
com/oregonwild>

Protecting Oregon's wildlands, wildlife, and waters as an enduring
legacy since 1974.
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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:37:09 -0700
From: "Bruce Kessler" <bruce at kesslergis.com>
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Subject: [gis_info] FW:  GIS computer question/recommendation
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Erik,

I'm a little Dell biased, but I've bought almost 20 Dell's in the last
12 years and have been very happy. So if you decide to go Dell, one
thing I suggest is not buying the cheapest in-store model. I would order
directly from Dell and use their Small Business sales force. You only
need to be a 'business' of one person (me) to qualify. 

Here's the deal that I learned by buying a number of machines. If you
buy a Dell through Walmart, Costco, Best Buy, etc. you might get a great
price because Dell constructs these machines for that client in large
quantities.
They go out for parts low-bid for that group of machines. So one e6530
from Costco is not the same parts as one from Walmart or even one bought
through Dell consumer! If you purchase through the business group, the
machines are standardized (or at least better) AND they have higher
quality components.
So, if you purchase an e6530 through the business group, it does not
have the same components. WHAT? YOU SAY??? 

The consumer grade markets demand "fast, light, cheap". That's what is
offered. The business grade machines are "fast, strong, reliable".
They're heavier built, which improves reliability immensely! So you'll
pay some in weight. Other model numbers may be offered instead of the
e6530. 

Anyway, I've found that the Dell business group treats me VERY well, the
machines have been solid and the sales people all speak English as a
first language! (Sorry, I don't mean to Diss anyone. but sometimes an
accent is just too difficult for me to understand.) Yes, the machines
are a bit more expensive. about $50 to $100 more, but I get exactly what
I want.
Additionally, they often throw in some extras (particularly if you're
nice and like to chat) for free! I've gotten all sorts of extras that
aren't listed on the normal parts list just by telling them what I do,
that I'm a small company struggling along, etc., etc. 

Bruce Kessler, MS, GISP, CTT+

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Kessler GIS

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Cheney, WA 99004

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[mailto:gis_info-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erik
Fernandez
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:09 PM
To: gis_info at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [gis_info] GIS computer question/recommendation

I'm hoping someone out there might have some insight on a recommendation
for a new GIS laptop. Generally looking for something with some kick,
but I'm not running GIS processes that are going to be setting any
records. I'm considering a Dell Latitude e6530 and the Lenovo ThinkPad
W530.  I've had a trusted tech friend suggest leaning away from Lenovo
but two GIS colleagues strongly recommending them.  Is there a consensus
out there on Lenovo as being solid or best to avoid?  Thanks for any
input- folks can just respond to me and I'll send out a single email
with any feedback if there's consensus. 
Thanks,
Erik

--
Erik Fernandez
Wilderness Coordinator
Oregon Wild, formerly ONRC
(503) 283-6343 x202

 <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oregon-Wild/105124331915>
<http://twitter.com/oregonwild> 

Protecting Oregon's wildlands, wildlife, and waters as an enduring
legacy
since 1974.

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