[Libs-Or] Fwd: Re: Policies and Pot
Paul Addis
paddis at cclsd.org
Fri Feb 20 17:04:32 PST 2015
Think I accidentally sent this just to Colin, wanted everyone to know my
post was not directed at him or to belittle anyone's intentions.
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Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] Policies and Pot
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:42:25 -0800
From: Paul Addis <paddis at cclsd.org>
To: Colin Rea <crea at fernridgelibrary.org>
Hello Colin and others,
I think I might have been misunderstood. I was not responding directly
to your post, Colin. Nor was I questioning your intentions. My intention
was more to question the general direction of the conversation and to
agree with others that marijuana should not be singled out when it comes
to library policies. I do apologize to you and others if my post seemed
judgmental as that was not my intention. Mostly, maybe a little
selfishly, I was trying to nudge the conversation in a different
direction. Obviously we are both coming at this topic from our specific
positions; you as Director, me as librarian. I do not remember the exact
nature of your post but I am sure your concerns are valid and I would
never intentionally attempt to belittle them, especially in a public
forum. So, please do not hesitate to post here in the future as it is my
hope that others, like me, value all opinions posted here whether we
agree with them or not.
Also, I would hope Directors share these concerns with their librarians
as they are often those who enforce these policies.
Best,
Paul
On 2/20/2015 3:49 PM, Colin Rea wrote:
>
> My original e-mail query should clearly have gone out to the
> Director’s list only. Put your hackles down, folks. There’s no
> judgment here, I’m simply doing my job in asking a question about a
> policy issue my board is looking at and assessing risk so that my
> limited budget goes toward material and programming and not lawsuits.
> I’m sad to see information professionals again using this forum to
> subtly question the intentions of their peers.
>
> Colin M. Rea
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> *From:*Paul Addis [mailto:paddis at cclsd.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2015 3:30 PM
> *To:* libs-or at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> *Subject:* Re: [Libs-Or] Policies and Pot
>
> I agree with Max in that I would like to know how libraries are
> planning to serve, and bring into the library, this budding (sorry,
> couldn't help it) new demographic. As a public librarian, I am really
> not interested in banning or prohibiting use of the library or drugs.
> If I was interested, I would have chosen another profession.
>
> For instance, we finally got a medical marijuana book in our Reference
> section. Now, I would like to know of more general Reference materials
> to bring into the library for both recreational users and those
> concerned about marijuana and its usage. Or, what kind of programs,
> especially educational, are folks planning around this new law. I
> believe Max is presenting something at OLA but is anybody planning
> events for their actual library.
>
> In my experience, most behavioral issues I have to address in the
> library revolve around alcohol use and/or mental issues unrelated to
> drugs. The folks who stink like weed tend to be pretty nice. Maybe
> this law will be good for us.
>
> I guess what I'm saying is if we have to talk about pot in this forum,
> shouldn't the discussion be centered around what we will do for these
> users? I'm not really interested in discriminating against library
> users and I really don't care what drugs they use. I would rather not
> know and prefer to remain neutral.
>
> I also agree with Buzzy in that I do not understand why marijuana is
> being singled out as an issue for libraries. I think we should leave
> that to the police who I doubt are very concerned about it these days.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On 2/20/2015 1:39 PM, Max Macias wrote:
>
> I agree Buzzy.
>
> I mean--do you all check everyone's water bottles to make sure
> there isn't vodka in there?
>
> I am wondering what everyone is doing to provide patrons with
> relevant, useful solid information about cannabis use, medicinal
> cannabis use and the cannabis business.
>
> These are all questions librarians will be asked, and we should
> have answers that don't revolve around sending people to the DEA
> web site.
>
> People might want to think about serving human information needs,
> then keeping people out of the library and "What if they do this,
> or what if they do thats?" IMO
>
> Many US veterans find PTSD relief from medicinal cannabis.
>
> Will you try to keep them out of your library if they smoked or
> ingested cannabis hours before?
>
> How many hours/days must a person be sober before they can enter
> the library?
>
> What is the legal limit for being in the library?
>
> How will you be able to tell if someone's red eyes are from an
> allergy or from being baked?
>
> It seems like it would be a mistake to travel down the routes of
> trying to figure these things out and sticking to "illegal behavior."
>
> You patrons have information needs about cannabis--how will you
> help them with those needs?
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Max Macias
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Buzzy Nielsen
> <buzzy at hoodriverlibrary.org <mailto:buzzy at hoodriverlibrary.org>>
> wrote:
>
> I guess I'm just not seeing the rationale for specifically calling
> out marijuana. Noncommercial exchanges of legal goods happen all
> the time in our buildings. As long as there's no illegal activity
> happening and it's not adversely affecting library operations. It
> seems like you'd just be making more work for yourself having to
> police it.
>
> Also, you might want to look into whether it's permissible to
> forbid people from posting legal marijuana-related content on your
> public bulletin boards. At least when I looked it up,
> publicly-accessible library bulletin boards fall under the same
> "limited public forum" case law as public meeting rooms.
>
> Cheers!
> Buzzy
>
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> On 02/20/2015 01:13 PM, BCLD Library Director wrote:
>
> I recently attended at the SDAO Conference and learned that
>
> ·while public consumption is prohibited, possession and
> *delivery* (sharing for noncommercial purposes) of fairly
> large quantities are allowed.
>
> A number of scenarios of concern occurred to me regarding
> lawful delivery for “noncommercial purposes.” Below is a
> draft Q&A I’ve started to craft for staff guidance. I will
> need to run it by legal counsel when ready.
>
> **
>
> *Administering Oregon's Marijuana Law | Sean O'Day and Rob
> Bovett <http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/oday.pdf>***
>
> Powerpoint slides
> (pdf)**http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/oday.pdf
>
> See page 14.
>
> Effective July 1, 2015, a person 21 or older can:
>
> · Deliver to another person 21 or older, for noncommercial
> purposes, up to:
>
> o 1 ounce of homegrown marijuana;
>
> o 1 pound of solid homegrown marijuana products; and
>
> o 4 ½ pounds of liquid homemade marijuana products.
>
> So…
>
> *Can people use the library as a space to trade/exchange their
> homegrown products? *
>
> Probably not. It seems reasonable to interpret any kind of
> exchange of goods as “commercial” activity, so that would be out.
>
> *Since non-commercial sharing is legal, can someone set a up a
> little giveaway station at a library table?*
>
> Probably not. Section 56 would appear to prohibit such open
> displays in common areas.
>
> Meas. 91, Section 56.
> <http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Documents/Measure91.pdf>
> Homegrown marijuana in public view prohibited. (1) No person may
>
> produce, process, keep, or store homegrown marijuana or
> homemade marijuana products
>
> if the homegrown marijuana or homemade marijuana products can
> be readily seen by
>
> normal unaided vision from a public place.
>
> *Can someone use a tutor room for sharing (which would not be
> readily seen) and just post their availability hours or a
> contact number for appointments on the bulletin board?*
>
> I haven’t yet found anything to prohibit it, so that scenario
> may need to be addressed by a policy.
>
> Additional seminar handouts
>
> http://ref.sdao.com/conference/2015/addtlhandouts.pdf
>
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