[Libs-Or] face shields

Mon Aug 17 14:55:32 PDT 2020

I have a relative who works for her county’s Emergency Operations Center and they DO NOT recommend face shields as an alternative or replacement for wearing a mask.  When they do their free drive through testing on a community property  all of the volunteers and staff wear a mask and a face shield, in addition to a coverall or gown and booties and a surgical cap!  They are following the CDC guidelines.

Adam, Sorry I don’t have hard numbers for you from any particular study.

Best,
Linda

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From: Libs-Or <libs-or-bounces at omls.oregon.gov> On Behalf Of Alan Cordle Villegas
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Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] face shields

I appreciate those sources too, Matthew. Thank you. Personally, I would not rely on a shield now that they've determined that coronavirus is in aerosols, floating significantly farther than six feet away from the source.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/health/coronavirus-aerosols-indoors.html

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 2:27 PM Adam Carlson <Adam.Carlson at mcminnvilleoregon.gov<mailto:Adam.Carlson at mcminnvilleoregon.gov>> wrote:
Thank you for finding those sources Matthew,

If anyone knows of any study that has looked at the effectiveness of face masks vs face shields, please share. I realize not all face shields or masks are created equal. But it would be good to have something that compares the two in the same study. I get the impression that face masks are more effective. I think most people would see the sense in that more of the mouth and nose are contained. But just how much more effective a mask is would be nice to learn about.

Adam Carlson
Circulation Supervisor
McMinnville Public Library
(503) 435-5556

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I had to do some research on this last week. Here's what I found out. Unfortunately it seems to depend who you listen to.

Pro face shields:

- https://govstatus.egov.com/or-oha-face-coverings (State of Oregon  mentions it as a requirement)

- https://www.co.lincoln.or.us/hhs/page/face-covering-directive (Lincoln County says they're good (via state))

- https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765525 (JAMA article saying they help)

- https://osha.oregon.gov/Documents/COVID19-Face-Covering-Advisory-Memo.pdf (Oregon OSHA recommends)

Anti face shields:

- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html (CDC says face shields bad)

- https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/07/face-shield-instead-mask (MIT Medical says no)

Waffling:

- https://health.clevelandclinic.org/will-a-face-shield-protect-you-from-the-coronavirus/<https://health.clevelandclinic.org/will-a-face-shield-protect-you-from-the-coronavirus> (Cleveland Clinic seems to be playing CYA)

- https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know (Johns Hopkins says maybe)

- https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200806-are-face-shields-effective-against-covid-19 (BBC says it depends)

- https://www.nytimes.com/article/face-shield-mask-california-coronavirus.html (NY Times: Ehhhhhhhhh)

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Subject: Re: [Libs-Or] face shields

Please note that shields are not recommended as a substitute for masks. I suppose there's nothing wrong with using them together.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html#face-shields
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 8:46 AM Jan Alderman <jalderman at summitlc.org<mailto:jalderman at summitlc.org>> wrote:
Hi there,
I also wear eyeglasses.
Masks tend to have glasses fog up...This is the Faceshield I have found to be absolutely wonderful!!https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08862CTDT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 These faceshields are sooo comfortable and fit right over my glasses!
It was so comfortable that I forgot I had it on and went to apply lip moisturizer and ended up getting it on the shield...LOL, wiped right off with no scratches.
No issue with fogging up either.
Pretty reasonably priced.
Let me know what you think :-)

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:38 AM dan cawley via Libs-Or <libs-or at omls.oregon.gov<mailto:libs-or at omls.oregon.gov>> wrote:

Can anyone recommend a decent universal face shield?

Many of the staff wear eye glasses.

Some reviews say the headband models are constricting.

Cheaper shields tend to scratch and/or fog up.

I haven't a clue where to begin...

Any and all suggestions welcomed.

thanks,

dan @ seaside

Daniel D. Cawley

Seaside Public Library

1131 Broadway

Seaside, Oregon  97138

503.738.6742

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