[or-roots] Letitia Bird / Charles McKay

[gary murray]

CARMA:  thanks so much for understanding what i wrote.  i am well aware that the died in the wool researchers will use these sites to ferret out little things that may give them a clue.  please, no more e-mails on this subject.  i do not understand why some of my private e-mails are so vicious.  i clearly said that this was my opinion and "for what its worth".  i am ill and willprobably not voice my opinion again.  i am also trying to move back to oregon but not portland.  i have picked redmond for the high desert air that i need and also the closeness of some of my family.  thanks so much and i am sorry if i stirred up a hornet's nest.  
gary in az.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CarmaMcKay at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:10 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Letitia Bird / Charles McKay


  Nancy, Gary, and other responders:

  Thanks for the input so far.  I didn't know about that website.  I'll look at it in more depth.  I noticed that the submitter lists Letitia's mother as Elizabeth (Montour) and then goes on to share the Montour family.  Gary, you're right about being careful with internet information.  I have a copy of James Bird & Elizabeth's marriage certificate.  If you look at it through a magnifying glass, you can tell that the last name of Montour was written by a different person.  I suspect it was added at a later date.

  I've worked on this lineage for several years and have corresponded with hundreds of descendants from the Red River Settlement (including Gail Morin and John Jackson), I've studied the Pat McCloy and Denney papers, and have collected many books about this part of our history.  So far, there is no proof that Elizabeth's last name was Montour.  Her husband, James Curtis Bird was quite a busy man.  He had 3 or 4 wives and about 21 children.  It's difficult to identify which child belonged to which wife.

  It is written in Oregon history books that Charles Richard McKay was born on ship while crossing the Atlantic from Scotland.  Unfortunately, that has been disproven.  Hudson's Bay Company records show that he was born in Canada as the son of John McKay.  I don't think there is a connection to Thomas McKay, except that they both voted at Champoeg.

  I can share more if anyone is interested, but will not be able to respond for a few days.  I'm off tomorrow morning for a little vacation at the local hospital to remove my gallbladder.  Oops, that's probably overshare!  Anyway, I'm still wondering if I have any cousins on this list.

  Take care,
  Carma

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