From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 1 09:42:06 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Message-ID: <20050101174206.73035.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his child Marile Peterson as shown below: OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark Married Lottie Hall born April1868 Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, North Bend, Oregon Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. Thank you. Erick Olofsson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Sat Jan 1 09:46:33 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:46:33 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] state of Washington questoin In-Reply-To: <029601c4ed4c$159302f0$a5090540@Elder> Message-ID: Diane; You didn't say if you had tried to correlate the marraige info with census info, if you lack access to Census gives us their names and I'm sure somebody can pin them down. Here is what I came up with for populated places with Indian in htem in Washington; Feature Name St County Equivalent Name Type USGS 7.5' Map Indian Beach WA Island populated place 480948N 1223112W Camano Indianola WA Kitsap populated place 474450N 1223128W Suquamish Indian Village WA Skagit populated place 483423N 1223858W Cypress Island Andrew Adams doesn't seem to be in Washington in 1880, in 1900 I find; Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year ADAMS ANDREW M W UNKN WA WHITMAN 41-PCT S PULLMAN 1900 ADAMS ANDREW J 37 M W TN WA KING 8-WD SEATTLE 1900 ADAMS ANDREW J 77 M W PA WA LINCOLN FAIRVIEW PCT 24-TW 1900 Lotsa Luck. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:12 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] state of Washington questoin I just found a marriage for ancestors in Indian Valley...no state given. But, I am sure it is Washington, perhaps in the area of Elma, Grays Harbor County, Washington. The JP was Andrew Adams, who preformed the ceremony in 1887. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks, Diane --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sat Jan 1 10:06:54 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:06:54 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] HAPPY NEW YEAR Message-ID: <010120051806.7865.41D6E6BE000C51F900001EB92200737478CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> May the winds of GOOD FORTUNE Blow on your path. Happy new year to ya'll. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fitzcf at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 11:19:31 2005 From: fitzcf at hotmail.com (Cheryl Fitzsimons) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:19:31 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <20050101174206.73035.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Erick, I could do a little research for you if you still need someone. It would not be until sometime next week. Do you know where Olaf Peterson, Jr. was born in 1899? That would narrow the choices for the 1900 census. Do you know who Olaf Peterson, Jr. married? And where or when? Was Marile (sp?) Peterson married? Or was that the name she was listed under in North Bend? Do you know what year that address was current? Happy New Year, Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, >North Bend, Oregon > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > >Thank you. > >Erick Olofsson > > > From fitzcf at hotmail.com Sat Jan 1 11:41:06 2005 From: fitzcf at hotmail.com (Cheryl Fitzsimons) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:41:06 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <20050101174206.73035.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, Jr.'s death: Name: Olaf L. Peterson Birth: 12 Apr 1899 Mothers Last Name: Hill Birth place: OR County of death: Fresno Death: 1 Feb 1967 SSN: 567-01-0054 Age: 67 Hope it helps, Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, >North Bend, Oregon > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > >Thank you. > >Erick Olofsson > > > From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 1 12:16:42 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:16:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050101201642.65017.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Cheryl, Olaf (also O.I. and Olif) was born in Oregon but I don't know when he was married all I know is that address and some say Marile was a man others say a women and if she was that she was placed in a convent at an early age. My grandfather Olof born 1855 had a wife and 8 children in Sweden, went to San Francisco in the 1884's to 1890's to earn money for them, but married a pomo Indian Lottie Hall and had two children Olaf and Esther Peterson born 1901/7/8 in Mendiceno County, California. Lottie Hall was killed in the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco. Olof Peterson my grandfather moved with Esther his daughter and her children to Fresno, California. I found them in the 1920 US Census, but Olaf was not shown at that time. I found in 1915 Olaf Peterson shown in the San Francisco Directory working as a pile driver living at 33 Gladys San Francisco, may or may not have been him. He was again found in 1924 and 1928 in obituaries for his father and again for his sister. I have also attached a dated list. Again thank you for your help Erick 1886 to 1899 Retuning to the U.S., Olof took Lottie Hall, a Pomo Indian, as his second wife. No date of their marriage is available. Children born from this marriage were: Olaf, Jr. and Esther. 1899/4/12 Olaf, Jr. was born in Oregon, a tall man over 6 foot, he had a son Merile Peterson. Olaf, Jr. was born on April 12, 1899 Olaf Peterson born and died in January 1967 in Friant, California. 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. 1889 Thurman Sr., born Dec. 20, a Pomo Indian future husband to Esther Peterson 1906 San Francisco Earthquake in San Francisco (Olof 1921 while visiting in Denmark 1921 told how he had lost his wife Lotti Hall (a Pomo Indian), she was killed while walking down a marble staircase when a Marble pillar fell on top of her, she was pregnant at the time, this was substantiated by Venus Murphy of Terrebonne, Oregon who said they had very much money and also Ole Blaakilde of Denmark. . 1910 Census Fresno county township #10 Olif Peterson is shown as a widower 55years of age a naturalized citizen said he came to US in 1873, living with 4 other men. Occupation Felling timber in a logging camp. 1914-15 Ruth was born to Esther Peterson out of wedlock, she later married John Horn from Oakhurst,Cal. 1915 Olaf Peterson shown in the San Francisco Directory working as a pile driver living at 33 Gladys San Francisco. 1916 Esther married Lawrence Romano divorced 1916 no record of children Esther attempted suicide over the broken romance 1918 Nov. 25/1918 A.L. Holdsclaw and Esther Peterson had a child Bud Holdsclaw but never married he left them on their own. He died in California 1932. 1919-1922 Esther Peterson married Thurman Murphy, Sr., a Pomo Indian who was born 12/20/1889. Children from this marriage were Thurman, Jr., born, 5/22/1923 and Venus, born on 4/20/1925 in Madera County, California. 1916-1923 I found Olof in Fresno directories, his occupation was Laboer, farmer and painter 1920 U.S. Census living at 17 Kearney street Fresno, Cal..17 Cooney Street must have included an accent. age 65 Danish Descent with daughter Esther 20 Ruth, Venus, Thurman Jr. , Thurman Murphy Sr. Olof worked as helper in slaughter house 1920 Olof showed up in Fredensborg, Denmark telling about seeing his wife die in San Francisco While in Denmark, Olof stayed at his sister Caroline?s house in Sweden. 1921 Olof Petersen Ellis Island ship records read : good health complexion 5foot 7 inches tall gray hair blue eyes place of birth Fredericksborg, Denmark age 66 male single, farmer Danish, he emigrated 1886 and 9/26/1921 Lives @ 17 conny ave. Fresno, California. Closest relative Caroline Johansen, Frederksborg, Denmark Olaf Petersen sailed from Denmark to Fresno in US 1921. He left from Copenhagen city the 6th of Sept 1921 on boat Oscar II. 1923 5/23 Thurman Murphy Jr. was born to Esther Peterson and her husband Thurman Sr. Murphy sr., Murphy?s sister was nancy Murphy, their mother was Ellyn Murphy (Yet-choo-nook). 1924/2/23 Olof died 2/23/1924 age 69 @ 17 kearney street Fresno Obituary reads Name of Father Andreas Peterson, birthplace Denmark, Cause of death Typhoid Fever, Intestinal perforation. Disease contracted at the Southern California Edison Company Camp. Place of Burial Mountain View Cemetery, Lisle and Ross Chapel Fresno, Ca. Signed to the best of his knowledge O.l. Peterson. Obituary reads survived by his son L.O.Peterson of Fresno,Daughter Mrs. T.H. Murphy of Big -Creek, Ca. 1924 Thurman H. Murphy Sr, is listed at that address 1925 Venus was born April 20th 1928 an Obituary in Fresno shows T. Murphy?s wife Esther Peterson died 9/15/1928 age 27 Mother of Ruth, Howard (Bud) ,Thurman Jr., Venus Murphy; and loving sister of Olaf Peterson all of Fresno; from chapel of Stephens & Bean Interment at Memoriel Lawn Cemetary.- 1928 Venus was 3 she was sent to live with her Aunt Nancy, (Nancy Murphy Kinsmen Webb)........ 1928-1929 Thurman Sr.Murphy was in Yosemite but his sister Nancy Murphy, their mother Elyn Murphy (Yet-choo-nook) and Olaf Jr. Peterson lived at the house 17 Kearney Street. 1930 Census shows Thurman Murphy and his two children Thurman Jr. and Venus, all of mixed blood, (American Pomo Indian) occupation a woodsman living in Big Creek, CA Madera County 1935 house had been torn down at 17 Kearney street 1967/February 1 Olaf Peterson son of Olof died friar, Fresno county, California. 1969 The California Death Index shows Thurman Murphy Died in Jan 23, 1969 died in San Andreas, which is Calaveras County (Sacramento, Ca.)- 1988 2/20 Bud (Chester Howard Holdsclaw) died. He was the grandfather to Corey Francis who mailed me so many Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, I could do a little research for you if you still need someone. It would not be until sometime next week. Do you know where Olaf Peterson, Jr. was born in 1899? That would narrow the choices for the 1900 census. Do you know who Olaf Peterson, Jr. married? And where or when? Was Marile (sp?) Peterson married? Or was that the name she was listed under in North Bend? Do you know what year that address was current? Happy New Year, Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, >North Bend, Oregon > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > >Thank you. > >Erick Olofsson > > > _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 1 13:06:25 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050101210625.11222.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find Maryle. Erick Olofsson Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, Jr.'s death: Name: Olaf L. Peterson Birth: 12 Apr 1899 Mothers Last Name: Hill Birth place: OR County of death: Fresno Death: 1 Feb 1967 SSN: 567-01-0054 Age: 67 Hope it helps, Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, >North Bend, Oregon > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > >Thank you. > >Erick Olofsson > > > _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 1 13:08:07 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:08:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] HAPPY NEW YEAR In-Reply-To: <010120051806.7865.41D6E6BE000C51F900001EB92200737478CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050101210807.11387.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> hello Bob, And to you also and thanks for your past military efforts. Erick Olofsson dgoodma02 at comcast.net wrote: May the winds of GOOD FORTUNE Blow on your path. Happy new year to ya'll. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fitzcf at hotmail.com Sun Jan 2 12:39:59 2005 From: fitzcf at hotmail.com (Cheryl Fitzsimons) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:39:59 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <20050101210625.11222.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Erick, Have you tried looking for Peterson in North Bend, Oregon in one of the online telephone books? I would suggest that you log on to an online telephone directory and enter Peterson in North Bend, Oregon. That would give you all the Petersons that live in that area. You might find the person you are looking for. Then you could call or write a letter. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find >Maryle. >Erick Olofsson > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, >Jr.'s death: > >Name: Olaf L. Peterson >Birth: 12 Apr 1899 >Mothers Last Name: Hill >Birth place: OR >County of death: Fresno >Death: 1 Feb 1967 >SSN: 567-01-0054 >Age: 67 > >Hope it helps, >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 2 13:35:32 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:35:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050102213532.34686.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Hi nagain cheryl Thanks for the tip, but I have tried it and mailed a letter there also but post office returned it. Thanks again Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, Have you tried looking for Peterson in North Bend, Oregon in one of the online telephone books? I would suggest that you log on to an online telephone directory and enter Peterson in North Bend, Oregon. That would give you all the Petersons that live in that area. You might find the person you are looking for. Then you could call or write a letter. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find >Maryle. >Erick Olofsson > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, >Jr.'s death: > >Name: Olaf L. Peterson >Birth: 12 Apr 1899 >Mothers Last Name: Hill >Birth place: OR >County of death: Fresno >Death: 1 Feb 1967 >SSN: 567-01-0054 >Age: 67 > >Hope it helps, >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Sun Jan 2 13:45:22 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:45:22 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. References: <20050101174206.73035.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004b01c4f114$5cf53430$1b57aa41@sue> For Marile(?) Petersen you say last known address. Can you give us an approximate time when that was? Don't know if we're trying to find someone who was living 2-3 years ago or 25 years ago. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his child Marile Peterson as shown below: OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark Married Lottie Hall born April1868 Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, North Bend, Oregon Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. Thank you. Erick Olofsson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sun Jan 2 14:34:42 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:34:42 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] A new Book for your info Message-ID: <010220052234.28633.41D877020009433500006FD92205889116CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Hi Gang and Happy New Year I've just come accross a Book "Roadside history of OREGON." It's Published by Mountain Press.The Author is Bill Gulick. WEB site address is: www.mountain-press.com. It's a really neet History of Oregon done in sections along HiWay routes. Mountain press also has a number of Roadside books on a number of states, plus Roadside Geology (for the duffer). I've checked out some of these from my Library and ordered the Oregon History from Powells. They cover things like Indian raids, shipwrecks, and the Tillamook Burn (how it got started). I sure recommed these Books. Incidently, I just ordered a Roadside History of Texas for my Wife. Yes, she is a Texan and loves her Texas but likes the Pacific NW also. The Mountain Press email address is info at mtnpress.com The Snail mail Address for Mountain Press is: P.O. Box 2399, MT 59806 Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sun Jan 2 15:13:31 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 23:13:31 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question Message-ID: <010220052313.11890.41D8801B0000E5DF00002E722200745672CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> There are two Universities with the Beaver as a Mascot. They are both in coastal states. What Schools are they? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CARROLLOUC at aol.com Sun Jan 2 15:22:53 2005 From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:22:53 EST Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question Message-ID: <90.544b8a78.2f09dc4d@aol.com> Good question, Bob. I only know of the Oregon State Beavers where several of my family have attended. So, I'll bite - where is the other one? A third generation Oregonian Carroll (Cooper) Summers There are two Universities with the Beaver as a Mascot. They are both in coastal states. What Schools are they? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulf at bendbroadband.com Sun Jan 2 15:33:46 2005 From: wulf at bendbroadband.com (Barbara Wulf) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:33:46 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question References: <010220052313.11890.41D8801B0000E5DF00002E722200745672CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003101c4f123$813e4e30$0200a8c0@barbarian> GOOGLE comes up with Buena Vista University having the beaver as a mascot. Where is Buena Vista University? Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question There are two Universities with the Beaver as a Mascot. They are both in coastal states. What Schools are they? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MStang5165 at aol.com Sun Jan 2 15:43:30 2005 From: MStang5165 at aol.com (MStang5165 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:43:30 EST Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question Message-ID: <9e.1d08b2e8.2f09e122@aol.com> Buena Vista University is in Storm Lake, Iowa (I'm a native Iowan). So it is not the answer to the trivia question since Iowa is definitely not a coastal state! By the way, what does this have to do with Oregon roots? Mimi Stang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulf at bendbroadband.com Sun Jan 2 15:39:34 2005 From: wulf at bendbroadband.com (Barbara Wulf) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:39:34 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question References: <010220052313.11890.41D8801B0000E5DF00002E722200745672CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003a01c4f124$53d967d0$0200a8c0@barbarian> Many college and University's all over the country have adopted the beaver as their mascot such as the following Colleges and University's: Babson College (Wellesley, Massachusetts) Bemidji State University (Bemidji, Minnesota) Bluffton College (Bluffton, Ohio) Buena Vista University (Storm Lake, Iowa) California Institute of Technology (Pasadena, California) Champlain College (Burlington, Vermont) City College of New York-City University of New York (New York, New York) Minot State University (Minot, North Dakota) Oregon State University (Corvallis, Oregon) University of Maine-Farmington (Farmington, Maine) Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question There are two Universities with the Beaver as a Mascot. They are both in coastal states. What Schools are they? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 2 15:44:22 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 15:44:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <004b01c4f114$5cf53430$1b57aa41@sue> Message-ID: <20050102234422.34736.qmail@web81501.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Sue, About 80 years ago, then she was send to convent. Erick Sue Steward wrote:For Marile(?) Petersen you say last known address. Can you give us an approximate time when that was? Don't know if we're trying to find someone who was living 2-3 years ago or 25 years ago. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his child Marile Peterson as shown below: OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark Married Lottie Hall born April1868 Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, North Bend, Oregon Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. Thank you. Erick Olofsson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kith-n-kin at att.net Sun Jan 2 16:40:43 2005 From: kith-n-kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:40:43 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <20050102213532.34686.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ad01c4f12c$dc60c140$6401a8c0@Tower1> Erick There is also Redmond, Oregon, which is just 15 miles (maybe) north of Bend. I have a cousin there, I'll forward this to her as well, maybe she knows something. Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 14:36 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hi nagain cheryl Thanks for the tip, but I have tried it and mailed a letter there also but post office returned it. Thanks again Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, Have you tried looking for Peterson in North Bend, Oregon in one of the online telephone books? I would suggest that you log on to an online telephone directory and enter Peterson in North Bend, Oregon. That would give you all the Petersons that live in that area. You might find the person you are looking for. Then you could call or write a letter. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find >Maryle. >Erick Olofsson > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, >Jr.'s death: > >Name: Olaf L. Peterson >Birth: 12 Apr 1899 >Mothers Last Name: Hill >Birth place: OR >County of death: Fresno >Death: 1 Feb 1967 >SSN: 567-01-0054 >Age: 67 > >Hope it helps, >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Peter sen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kith-n-kin at att.net Sun Jan 2 16:46:09 2005 From: kith-n-kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:46:09 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question In-Reply-To: <003a01c4f124$53d967d0$0200a8c0@barbarian> Message-ID: <00b201c4f12d$9ec5ec10$6401a8c0@Tower1> OK, then, I vote for CIT and OSU. Well, as long as we are not playing football or basketball - then those OSU Beavers and going to be whumped by a Wildcat! Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Barbara Wulf Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 16:40 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Trivia Question Many college and University's all over the country have adopted the beaver as their mascot such as the following Colleges and University's: Babson College (Wellesley, Massachusetts) Bemidji State University (Bemidji, Minnesota) Bluffton College (Bluffton, Ohio) Buena Vista University (Storm Lake, Iowa) California Institute of Technology (Pasadena, California) Champlain College (Burlington, Vermont) City College of New York-City University of New York (New York, New York) Minot State University (Minot, North Dakota) Oregon State University (Corvallis, Oregon) University of Maine-Farmington (Farmington, Maine) Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question There are two Universities with the Beaver as a Mascot. They are both in coastal states. What Schools are they? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulf at bendbroadband.com Sun Jan 2 16:47:55 2005 From: wulf at bendbroadband.com (Barbara Wulf) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:47:55 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. References: <00ad01c4f12c$dc60c140$6401a8c0@Tower1> Message-ID: <005c01c4f12d$dcfe1d40$0200a8c0@barbarian> MessageNorth Bend is next to Coos Bay on the Oregon Coast. Bend and Redmond are on the east side of the Cascades. Currently it is snowing in Bend and has been all day. Sure will be nice to see the sun again when this system decides to move out and quit spinning moisture up the east side of the mountains. Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Erick There is also Redmond, Oregon, which is just 15 miles (maybe) north of Bend. I have a cousin there, I'll forward this to her as well, maybe she knows something. Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 14:36 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hi nagain cheryl Thanks for the tip, but I have tried it and mailed a letter there also but post office returned it. Thanks again Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, Have you tried looking for Peterson in North Bend, Oregon in one of the online telephone books? I would suggest that you log on to an online telephone directory and enter Peterson in North Bend, Oregon. That would give you all the Petersons that live in that area. You might find the person you are looking for. Then you could call or write a letter. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find >Maryle. >Erick Olofsson > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, >Jr.'s death: > >Name: Olaf L. Peterson >Birth: 12 Apr 1899 >Mothers Last Name: Hill >Birth place: OR >County of death: Fresno >Death: 1 Feb 1967 >SSN: 567-01-0054 >Age: 67 > >Hope it helps, >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Peter sen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From evbarnes at earthlink.net Sun Jan 2 17:01:21 2005 From: evbarnes at earthlink.net (E V Barnes) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:01:21 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] A new Book for your info References: <010220052234.28633.41D877020009433500006FD92205889116CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003401c4f12f$bdc29760$6401a8c0@GENE> YOu have to put in a better url address for the Mountain Press ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:34 PM Subject: [or-roots] A new Book for your info Hi Gang and Happy New Year I've just come accross a Book "Roadside history of OREGON." It's Published by Mountain Press.The Author is Bill Gulick. WEB site address is: www.mountain-press.com. It's a really neet History of Oregon done in sections along HiWay routes. Mountain press also has a number of Roadside books on a number of states, plus Roadside Geology (for the duffer). I've checked out some of these from my Library and ordered the Oregon History from Powells. They cover things like Indian raids, shipwrecks, and the Tillamook Burn (how it got started). I sure recommed these Books. Incidently, I just ordered a Roadside History of Texas for my Wife. Yes, she is a Texan and loves her Texas but likes the Pacific NW also. The Mountain Press email address is info at mtnpress.com The Snail mail Address for Mountain Press is: P.O. Box 2399, MT 59806 Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CARROLLOUC at aol.com Sun Jan 2 17:07:11 2005 From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:07:11 EST Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Message-ID: <75.3bbf9f99.2f09f4bf@aol.com> Erick is looking in NORTH Bend on the Oregon Coast, not Bend in Central Oregon. He might try Coos Bay which runs into North Bend, or the other way around Carroll (Cooper) Summers Erick There is also Redmond, Oregon, which is just 15 miles (maybe) north of Bend. I have a cousin there, I'll forward this to her as well, maybe she knows something. Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 14:36 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hi nagain cheryl Thanks for the tip, but I have tried it and mailed a letter there also but post office returned it. Thanks again Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, Have you tried looking for Peterson in North Bend, Oregon in one of the online telephone books? I would suggest that you log on to an online telephone directory and enter Peterson in North Bend, Oregon. That would give you all the Petersons that live in that area. You might find the person you are looking for. Then you could call or write a letter. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find >Maryle. >Erick Olofsson > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, >Jr.'s death: > >Name: Olaf L. Peterson >Birth: 12 Apr 1899 >Mothers Last Name: Hill >Birth place: OR >County of death: Fresno >Death: 1 Feb 1967 >SSN: 567-01-0054 >Age: 67 > >Hope it helps, >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Peter sen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CARROLLOUC at aol.com Sun Jan 2 17:09:15 2005 From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:09:15 EST Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question Message-ID: <6b.3bb6621e.2f09f53b@aol.com> It has nothing to do with Oregon roots - may just be Bob's way of waking us up as the list has been fairly quiet lately - and see how many answers he got!!! Carroll (Cooper0 Summers Buena Vista University is in Storm Lake, Iowa (I'm a native Iowan). So it is not the answer to the trivia question since Iowa is definitely not a coastal state! By the way, what does this have to do with Oregon roots? Mimi Stang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Sun Jan 2 17:19:58 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 17:19:58 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies In-Reply-To: <20050102234422.34736.qmail@web81501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Olaf; I intended to check this the other day when you first posted your query, and I can only bla e the fackt I have been running around like a chicken with its legs cut off trying to get a 16 year accumulation of junk moved from one house to anohter in thirty days and am coming down with a cold. I would guess that: Murile Peterson 2691-14th St., North Bend, Oregon 541-756-2316 is very likely the person you are looking for. My aplogoies for not checking this sooner, but I was sure she wouldn't be there and I didn't have any plans to and didn't think you would be desperate enought to bother the other 55 people under the name Peterson in said phone book. Granted only part of them are in Coos Bay - North Bend, but after this long what was the chance she would actually be there. In my family I rate pertty high up in sedentariness now having been in the same town for 16 years. Some of my paretns generatation stayed in the same place all their lives, Dad never lived in one place any longer than ten years for most of his life. Feel free to tell her I gave you the info, so she can have somebody close by to be mad at if she isn't interested in hearing from long lost kin. Les Chapman. -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:44 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hello Sue, About 80 years ago, then she was send to convent. Erick Sue Steward wrote: For Marile(?) Petersen you say last known address. Can you give us an approximate time when that was? Don't know if we're trying to find someone who was living 2-3 years ago or 25 years ago. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his child Marile Peterson as shown below: OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark Married Lottie Hall born April1868 Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, North Bend, Oregon Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. Thank you. Erick Olofsson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From kith-n-kin at att.net Sun Jan 2 17:34:56 2005 From: kith-n-kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:34:56 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <005c01c4f12d$dcfe1d40$0200a8c0@barbarian> Message-ID: <001c01c4f134$6f36eb00$6401a8c0@Tower1> heh, heh, guess you know now why I don't find my way around, huh? Pat -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Barbara Wulf Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 17:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. North Bend is next to Coos Bay on the Oregon Coast. Bend and Redmond are on the east side of the Cascades. Currently it is snowing in Bend and has been all day. Sure will be nice to see the sun again when this system decides to move out and quit spinning moisture up the east side of the mountains. Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Erick There is also Redmond, Oregon, which is just 15 miles (maybe) north of Bend. I have a cousin there, I'll forward this to her as well, maybe she knows something. Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 14:36 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hi nagain cheryl Thanks for the tip, but I have tried it and mailed a letter there also but post office returned it. Thanks again Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, Have you tried looking for Peterson in North Bend, Oregon in one of the online telephone books? I would suggest that you log on to an online telephone directory and enter Peterson in North Bend, Oregon. That would give you all the Petersons that live in that area. You might find the person you are looking for. Then you could call or write a letter. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find >Maryle. >Erick Olofsson > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, >Jr.'s death: > >Name: Olaf L. Peterson >Birth: 12 Apr 1899 >Mothers Last Name: Hill >Birth place: OR >County of death: Fresno >Death: 1 Feb 1967 >SSN: 567-01-0054 >Age: 67 > >Hope it helps, >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Peter sen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sun Jan 2 20:05:27 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 04:05:27 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] trivia wake up Message-ID: <010320050405.1732.41D8C487000DF3B9000006C42205889116CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Ya it was just for fun. And the Answer is: OSU and MIT. (At least my answer, yuk, yuk) -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trego at gte.net Sun Jan 2 21:41:53 2005 From: trego at gte.net (Tom Tregoning) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:41:53 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Trivia Question In-Reply-To: <010220052313.11890.41D8801B0000E5DF00002E722200745672CDCF0 E030B0101090B@comcast.net> References: <010220052313.11890.41D8801B0000E5DF00002E722200745672CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050102213329.03638d90@incoming.verizon.net> Hi Bob and List, Here is a list from Google: The Beaver as a Mascot Colleges and Universities across the United States have chosen to declare themselves ?Beavers.? Many underestimate the power and fierceness that the beaver really has. For many school the reason why they call themselves the beavers is because the beaver is defined as a hard worker. The beaver is a unique and smart animal ?Because they are so much like us. The way they work until the drop, like us. They commune together in small homes pieced together, like us. They work both day night for long shifts, like us. They get pushed around by large corporations and developers, like us.? (www.tattletail.org/pages/whybeaver.html) Oregon State University is documented as being the first to have the Beaver as a mascot established in 1910. Many college and University?s all over the country have adopted the beaver as their mascot such as the following Colleges and University?s: [] Babson College (Wellesley, Massachusetts) Bemidji State University (Bemidji, Minnesota) Bluffton College (Bluffton, Ohio) Buena Vista University (Storm Lake, Iowa) [] California Institute of Technology (Pasadena, California) Champlain College (Burlington, Vermont) [] City College of New York-City University of New York (New York, New York) Minot State University (Minot, North Dakota) Oregon State University (Corvallis, Oregon) University of Maine-Farmington (Farmington, Maine) The beaver has been looked down upon because it?s lack off fierceness but hopefully over the years more upcoming Colleges and University?s will adopt the beaver as their mascot. Also Centre d'Apprentissage du HAUT-MADAWASKS, Nouveay, Brunswick I found at least four that answer you question. At 1/2/0503:13 PM, you wrote: >There are two Universities with the Beaver as a Mascot. >They are both in coastal states. >What Schools are they? > >-- >Bob Goodman >USAF Retired >University Place, Washington > > >__________ NOD32 1.962 (20041231) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: C:/windows/TEMP/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 2777 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: C:/windows/TEMP/msoclip1/01/clip_image003.gif Type: image/gif Size: 8397 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: C:/windows/TEMP/msoclip1/01/clip_image005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3355 bytes Desc: not available URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 4 18:08:08 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:08:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050105020808.81590.qmail@web81508.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Lesly, Just wanted to thank you for helping find Murile Peterson it turns out he is my cousin that I have been looking for, How di your know? Thank You So Much, I owe you a dinner if I get to Cos Bay. Erick Leslie Chapman wrote: Olaf; I intended to check this the other day when you first posted your query, and I can only bla e the fackt I have been running around like a chicken with its legs cut off trying to get a 16 year accumulation of junk moved from one house to anohter in thirty days and am coming down with a cold. I would guess that: Murile Peterson 2691-14th St., North Bend, Oregon 541-756-2316 is very likely the person you are looking for. My aplogoies for not checking this sooner, but I was sure she wouldn't be there and I didn't have any plans to and didn't think you would be desperate enought to bother the other 55 people under the name Peterson in said phone book. Granted only part of them are in Coos Bay - North Bend, but after this long what was the chance she would actually be there. In my family I rate pertty high up in sedentariness now having been in the same town for 16 years. Some of my paretns generatation stayed in the same place all their lives, Dad never lived in one place any longer than ten years for most of his life. Feel free to tell her I gave you the info, so she can have somebody close by to be mad at if she isn't interested in hearing from long lost kin. Les Chapman. -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:44 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hello Sue, About 80 years ago, then she was send to convent. Erick Sue Steward wrote: For Marile(?) Petersen you say last known address. Can you give us an approximate time when that was? Don't know if we're trying to find someone who was living 2-3 years ago or 25 years ago. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his child Marile Peterson as shown below: OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark Married Lottie Hall born April1868 Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, North Bend, Oregon Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. Thank you. Erick Olofsson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Wed Jan 5 07:12:51 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:12:51 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies In-Reply-To: <20050105020808.81590.qmail@web81508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Erick; I sure can confuse things, I was so rummy when I wrote that I read your name as Olof Ericson or some such, sorry. As to how I knew it was him, I figured a name THAT unusual in the same town, even after 40 years had to be the same person. I gather you must have successfully contacted him, congratulations. I have some cousins in California I would dearly love to make contact with, but most of them apparently don't want to have anything to do with us, and haven't been in touch with us since my grandmother died in 1947, so probably never will make contact. I did tie up with a very distant relative of one of the lines from the in-laws side who said there were real hard feelings as apparently my blood kin was a wife beater and when she got smart enough to leave him, she made sure her family and ours lost contact. But the rest of them I just don't know what happened to. Oh Well, I have about twice as much family I know since I started on genealogy as I had before that and already had ten times as much family I was in touch with as a lot of folks, so I can't complain. I have met a few people in my life who had almost no blood relatives that they knew, I can't imagine that, my maternal grandparents have had 42 descendants by my count, though one of my aunts claimed 69 descendants years ago. Anyway glad to be able to help. LEs C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 6:08 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies Hello Lesly, Just wanted to thank you for helping find Murile Peterson it turns out he is my cousin that I have been looking for, How di your know? Thank You So Much, I owe you a dinner if I get to Cos Bay. Erick Leslie Chapman wrote: Olaf; I intended to check this the other day when you first posted your query, and I can only bla e the fackt I have been running around like a chicken with its legs cut off trying to get a 16 year accumulation of junk moved from one house to anohter in thirty days and am coming down with a cold. I would guess that: Murile Peterson 2691-14th St., North Bend, Oregon 541-756-2316 is very likely the person you are looking for. My aplogoies for not checking this sooner, but I was sure she wouldn't be there and I didn't have any plans to and didn't think you would be desperate enought to bother the other 55 people under the name Peterson in said phone book. Granted only part of them are in Coos Bay - North Bend, but after this long what was the chance she would actually be there. In my family I rate pertty high up in sedentariness now having been in the same town for 16 years. Some of my paretns generatation stayed in the same place all their lives, Dad never lived in one place any longer than ten years for most of his life. Feel free to tell her I gave you the info, so she can have somebody close by to be mad at if she isn't interested in hearing from long lost kin. Les Chapman. -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:44 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hello Sue, About 80 years ago, then she was send to convent. Erick Sue Steward wrote: For Marile(?) Petersen you say last known address. Can you give us an approximate time when that was? Don't know if we're trying to find someone who was living 2-3 years ago or 25 y ears ago. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his child Marile Peterson as shown below: OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark Married Lottie Hall born April1868 Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, North Bend, Oregon Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. Thank you. Erick Olofsson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From fitzcf at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 10:01:29 2005 From: fitzcf at hotmail.com (Cheryl Fitzsimons) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:01:29 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <20050101174206.73035.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Eric, I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find much more than you did. Here is what I have: Murile Peterson If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared on March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter, Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004. Olaf Peterson, Sr. You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him in the 1900 census records. Olaf Peterson, Jr. 1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page 190B. Is this Ruth Peterson? Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark, mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could this be the convent remembered in your family stories? From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 5 11:46:22 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:46:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050105194622.42349.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Cheryl, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Your super. I appreciate all of tor help. Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Eric, I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find much more than you did. Here is what I have: Murile Peterson If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared on March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter, Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004. Olaf Peterson, Sr. You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him in the 1900 census records. Olaf Peterson, Jr. 1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page 190B. Is this Ruth Peterson? Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark, mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could this be the convent remembered in your family stories? From fitzcf at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 14:19:08 2005 From: fitzcf at hotmail.com (Cheryl Fitzsimons) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:19:08 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <20050105194622.42349.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You are welcome! If you need copies of the census records I can email them to you. They would be in pdf format. Also, I could scan and email the other information if you want. Just let me know. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:46:22 -0800 (PST) > >Hello Cheryl, >Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank >you, Thank you, Thank you, Your super. >I appreciate all of tor help. >Erick > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >Hi Eric, > >I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find >much more than you did. Here is what I have: > >Murile Peterson >If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the >archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared >on >March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter, >Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So >it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the >Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004. > >Olaf Peterson, Sr. >You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him >in the 1900 census records. > >Olaf Peterson, Jr. >1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in >California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the >Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page >190B. > >Is this Ruth Peterson? >Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark, >mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum >in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could >this be the convent remembered in your family stories? > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Ruth Lillian Horn, SSN >571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno >County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was >Beasley. > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Olaf L. Peterson died 1 >February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in >Oregon, >mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054. > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Chester Howard Holdsclaw, SSN >551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in >Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy. >From the Oakhill Cemetery Inscriptions: Chester H. Holdsclaw died 30 March >1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill >Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of >kin was Ruth Holdsclaw. > >The Murphy line: >1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter), >Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George >(son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy, >Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure >what that means ? other, orphan? >2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California, >father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at >a >logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122. >3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood, >a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus >(daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11, >page 282A. You had this, I think. >4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California, >died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California >Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas, >Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there. > >From www.vitalsearch-ca.com: Alonzo Holdsclaw died 9 April 1932 in Fresno >County, California. He was 60 years old. > >I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research. > >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 5 14:37:52 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:37:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <001c01c4f134$6f36eb00$6401a8c0@Tower1> Message-ID: <20050105223752.48585.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Pat, wanted to let you know, that you did help me and I found a cousin. Erick Kith-n-Kin wrote: heh, heh, guess you know now why I don't find my way around, huh? Pat -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Barbara Wulf Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 17:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. North Bend is next to Coos Bay on the Oregon Coast. Bend and Redmond are on the east side of the Cascades. Currently it is snowing in Bend and has been all day. Sure will be nice to see the sun again when this system decides to move out and quit spinning moisture up the east side of the mountains. Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Erick There is also Redmond, Oregon, which is just 15 miles (maybe) north of Bend. I have a cousin there, I'll forward this to her as well, maybe she knows something. Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 14:36 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hi nagain cheryl Thanks for the tip, but I have tried it and mailed a letter there also but post office returned it. Thanks again Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, Have you tried looking for Peterson in North Bend, Oregon in one of the online telephone books? I would suggest that you log on to an online telephone directory and enter Peterson in North Bend, Oregon. That would give you all the Petersons that live in that area. You might find the person you are looking for. Then you could call or write a letter. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:25 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Cheryl, Have a blessed new year, do you think you can still find >Maryle. >Erick Olofsson > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >This is what I just found at www.vitalsearch-ca.com about Olaf Peterson, >Jr.'s death: > >Name: Olaf L. Peterson >Birth: 12 Apr 1899 >Mothers Last Name: Hill >Birth place: OR >County of death: Fresno >Death: 1 Feb 1967 >SSN: 567-01-0054 >Age: 67 > >Hope it helps, >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Peter sen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Wed Jan 5 16:16:38 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:16:38 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Take a look back Message-ID: <010620050016.28691.41DC8366000C1E3D000070132200750744CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> I, once in a while, go back over my records, odds & ends, etc. I just did so regarding my ggGrandfather, Joseph P. Goodman. I new he had was born in IN , in 1819, and died in Umitilla OR in 1875 but I had missed the fact that he went to CA in 1850 (GOLD RUSH PERIOD) and returned to Missouri. I didn't know that.! I sure pays to take a break and go back over stuff.! -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barbhg1221 at comcast.net Wed Jan 5 18:02:07 2005 From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (barbhg1221 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 02:02:07 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Take a look back Message-ID: <010620050202.12036.41DC9C1F000C251C00002F042200735446CECDCDCE09080D9D0E0D@comcast.net> Bob, great advice. When I review records, I often find tidbits of small to major importance. Things that did not make sense the first time all of a sudden take on new significance. This is often the case with witnesses to documents. It is never a waste of time to go back over what you already have. Barbara Herring -------------- Original message -------------- I, once in a while, go back over my records, odds & ends, etc. I just did so regarding my ggGrandfather, Joseph P. Goodman. I new he had was born in IN , in 1819, and died in Umitilla OR in 1875 but I had missed the fact that he went to CA in 1850 (GOLD RUSH PERIOD) and returned to Missouri. I didn't know that.! I sure pays to take a break and go back over stuff.! -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sally at cavenet.com Wed Jan 5 18:09:24 2005 From: sally at cavenet.com (Sally) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:09:24 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Josephine county researchers Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20050105180924.007ae160@mail.cavenet.com> This message is on the Josephine county Rootweb page. I thought it might be of intrest to some of you Josephine County researchers. Sally in southern oregon Very Old Family Photo Album / Want to find it's Family Author: Nancy Adams Date: 4 Jan 2005 9:36 PM GMT Surnames: Clemmer, Haas, Carson, Wasson, Schaffer & Lady the Dog (1949) Classification: Query Hi! I have a very old family picture album, about late 1800's up into the 1900's. I worked for a second hand store in Grants Pass, Oregon in 1986. This picture album was going in the garbage, & couldn't let that happen. I have hung on to this very special lost family treasure for 18 years now! There may not be any family left to this old album, I don't know, but I need to try & find them. I FEEL THE FAMILY THAT OWNED THIS PHOTO ALBUM, MAY HAVE DIED IN : about 1986 in Grants Pass, OR. The owner of the second hand store would buy unpaid storage units that people left behind. Here are all the names I found: Minnie Clemmer..Mom's 80th birthday, taken Sept. 7-1951 Clifford Haas Kenneth Carson Viola Carson Bill Carson Harvey Henry Minnie Mrs. Schaffer Hattie There's a newspaper clipping: Sept. 24, 1938 (about rule by force) Wasson Reunion Elsie & Chuck Haas Chuck Haas Al Clemmer And (Lady the Dog)...1949 There's a picture of a meeting house. It says on back of picture: Birminghouse? Meeting house. Near Chadd's Fork, PA. There is a photo of a very large group of men and reads under the Photo: KNIGHTS OF THE PYTHIA There is a lot of Pictures. My sister said when I showed her that the pictures are very old, & when they were taken, the kind of film they used was like film from another country. Better film than here in the U. S. at that time. There mostly color & very beautiful. I sure hope Some one will recognized these Surnames. What is neat here is the surname(Haas)is in my family & they were from PA. ...PA. Dutch, or Mennonites. They came from there on the Oregon Trail, second wagon train to ever travel it. Surnames in my family are:Plank, Hill, Lydall, Miller, Smith, Keck, Housouer, Yoder, Yost, Stevens, McCubbins, Flanagan & More. I also have family in Grants Pass, Rogue River, Gold Hill Oregon..Diess Family & more. Thanks! Nancy nancydean at columbia-center.org Post Reply | Mark Unread Report Abuse Print Message From khanjehgil at presys.com Wed Jan 5 21:34:38 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:34:38 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing Message-ID: First a big loud three cheers for Cheryl for all the effort she put in on behalf of Erick! Then there is Bob's comment about going back over things. Amen! My biggest problem is no matter how many times I go over it, I still find whole folders full of information that never got assimilated; as in when I get real hot on a lead and find lots of neat stuff such as old church records posted to the internet or some such that have lots of my ancestors, so I frantically grab and save these web pages with the idea of "entering it in my family file later" and then don't have time to do so for a few weeks, which means of course I forget I have it. I would bet I probably have at least twenty or thirty ancestors or their in-laws hidden somewhere in my 'web pages saved' directory or 'census' or 'census maybe' folders. That last one is especially intriguing as there are a lot of people in there that "look" like they could be relatives, but with names like John Brown who knows? I also was intrigued by the item from Nancy about the old photo album. I know we have old albums lost from our family, that we would kill to get back, but that wasn't one of them sadly. I wish Nancy luck and sure wish somebody would claim one of the bibles I have. Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 6 07:29:12 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 07:29:12 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing References: Message-ID: <001501c4f404$7c0363e0$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Les, Ditto to all your comments! What Bibles do you have? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing > First a big loud three cheers for Cheryl for all the effort she put in on > behalf of Erick! > > Then there is Bob's comment about going back over things. Amen! My biggest > problem is no matter how many times I go over it, I still find whole > folders > full of information that never got assimilated; as in when I get real hot > on > a lead and find lots of neat stuff such as old church records posted to > the > internet or some such that have lots of my ancestors, so I frantically > grab > and save these web pages with the idea of "entering it in my family file > later" and then don't have time to do so for a few weeks, which means of > course I forget I have it. I would bet I probably have at least twenty or > thirty ancestors or their in-laws hidden somewhere in my 'web pages saved' > directory or 'census' or 'census maybe' folders. > > That last one is especially intriguing as there are a lot of people in > there > that "look" like they could be relatives, but with names like John Brown > who > knows? > > I also was intrigued by the item from Nancy about the old photo album. I > know we have old albums lost from our family, that we would kill to get > back, but that wasn't one of them sadly. I wish Nancy luck and sure wish > somebody would claim one of the bibles I have. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From CKlooster at aol.com Thu Jan 6 08:44:25 2005 From: CKlooster at aol.com (CKlooster at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:44:25 EST Subject: [or-roots] Re: [or-roots]...the other thing, returning family memorabilia Message-ID: I have had fairly good luck finding families for old photos, Bibles, etc. rescued from antique stores. I post the information to family surname forums on various genealogical websites such as Ancestry.com. I can't afford to rescue every photo I find, and unfortunately many antique dealers have raised prices to several dollars for each photo...I'm told that some people buy these photos to have "instant ancestors". If I find one that has names or names and places written on it, I do try to rescue it...but do avoid common names such as John Brown. If there is no response from family and if I know the location where the photo was taken (sometimes from the photographer's name at the bottom of the photo) I find the nearest photo archive or historical society and donate to them. I've sent several identified family photos to the Oregon Historical Society in Portland in the hopes that some day some family member will search there and find lost family. This is my version of casting bread upon the waters! Carla -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If there is no response from family and if I know the location where the photo was taken (sometimes from the photographer's name at the bottom of the photo) I find the nearest photo archive or historical society and donate to them. I've sent several identified family photos to the Oregon Historical Society in Portland in the hopes that some day some family member will search there and find lost family. This is my version of casting bread upon the waters! Carla -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 6 09:06:19 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:06:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing In-Reply-To: <001501c4f404$7c0363e0$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <20050106170619.87258.qmail@web81506.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Stve-Ronda Thats a good idea Do you or Leslie have old bibles fromOlaf or Olof Petterson 1855 to 1969 Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Les, Ditto to all your comments! What Bibles do you have? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing > First a big loud three cheers for Cheryl for all the effort she put in on > behalf of Erick! > > Then there is Bob's comment about going back over things. Amen! My biggest > problem is no matter how many times I go over it, I still find whole > folders > full of information that never got assimilated; as in when I get real hot > on > a lead and find lots of neat stuff such as old church records posted to > the > internet or some such that have lots of my ancestors, so I frantically > grab > and save these web pages with the idea of "entering it in my family file > later" and then don't have time to do so for a few weeks, which means of > course I forget I have it. I would bet I probably have at least twenty or > thirty ancestors or their in-laws hidden somewhere in my 'web pages saved' > directory or 'census' or 'census maybe' folders. > > That last one is especially intriguing as there are a lot of people in > there > that "look" like they could be relatives, but with names like John Brown > who > knows? > > I also was intrigued by the item from Nancy about the old photo album. I > know we have old albums lost from our family, that we would kill to get > back, but that wasn't one of them sadly. I wish Nancy luck and sure wish > somebody would claim one of the bibles I have. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 skipb at rcn.com Researching: 1851 Oregon Trail -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 1/3/05 From cchouk at cox.net Thu Jan 6 14:10:56 2005 From: cchouk at cox.net (Cecil Houk) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:10:56 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Is there an Or-Roots archive? References: <7a.6a33c5f4.2f0f0dd5@aol.com> Message-ID: <007f01c4f43c$98c3cb40$3db26f44@CecilHouk203> yes Cecil ----- Original Message ----- From: LinLouVan at aol.com To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: [or-roots] Is there an Or-Roots archive? Does anyone have an archive of Or-Roots postings -- who could look up a posting I made on 12/5/04 - Subject: Milliorn Cemetery - an historic cemetery? Linda VanOrden LinLouVan at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cchouk at cox.net Thu Jan 6 14:13:53 2005 From: cchouk at cox.net (Cecil Houk) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:13:53 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Is there an Or-Roots archive? References: <7a.6a33c5f4.2f0f0dd5@aol.com> Message-ID: <009201c4f43d$02299b00$3db26f44@CecilHouk203> I am appealing to anyone on this list who might have any information about the people listed here who are buried in Milliorn Cemetery in Junction City, Oregon. This cemetery is very close to the edge of what is now High Pass Road (slated to be upgraded in 2009). I am putting together as much information as possible about those buried there -- real pioneers of Junction City. I am in the process of putting together the history of the cemetery and bios of the people to present to the Planning Commissions and Councils that might be eager to wipe out part of the cemetery to please developers. Linda VanOrden - Junction City, Oregon -- LinLouVan at aol.com Any information and/or clues would be most welcome. Here is what I know: BLACHLEY, Della age 4 yrs ??? listed on the DAR list (No other information except there was an Ebenezer BLACHLEY family who came to Oregon with the emigrants of 1854 and are on censuses for the area in 1860, 1870 & 1880. But we need information to connect Della to a family.) BRYSON, Howard 3-day-old son of Louis BRYSON and Ruth DENNISEN have copy of Oregon Death Certificate #95 showing death 9 Mar 1932 and burial in Milliorn Cemetery 10 Mar 1932. BURGESS, George May 18, 1841 - 31 Mar 1912 (Listed in Civil War Soldiers & Sailors System Search Detail, Company B, 10 Wisconsin Infantry (Some Junction City history says he spent time in Andersonville Prison; another says Libbey Prison. I can not find him in either. Supposedly he was in prison with a Rev. Skaggs who is credited for saving his life.); He was living in South Junction Precinct at the time of the 1910 Federal census and we have a copy of Oregon State Death Certificate No. 1051 showing death 2 Apr 1912 with place of burial Junction City. CARSON, Sarah C. d. June 3, 1905, wife of G.M. CARSON CARSON, Carlie T. d. 23 Dec 1886, son of G.M. & S.C. CARSON (The family was living in the Junction City Lancaster Precinct at the time of the 1880 Federal census. - No further information.) CHRISTENSEN, Marie Nov 4, 1873 - Jun 9, 1912 CHRISTENSEN, Charl Aug 26, 1843 - Aug 9, 1910 CHRISTENSEN, Helle Apr 13, 1847 - Aug 29, 1902 (Have summary of family history confirming that all three are buried in Milliorn Cemetery. Also have photos of Charl & Helle, as well as of Marie.) COON, Willard M. 8-day-old son of Mr. and Mrs. John P. COON (The only information is on the Find A Grave website listed by Arline Poole Cox. She found the death information in an early Junction City Times newspaper. DENNISEN, Anna K. 1880-1902 (No further information. Someone leaves new artificial flowers on her grave each year.) FRAYER, George W. b. Nov 13, 1839 - d. May 27, 1915 (Have copy of Oregon Death Certificate No. 2739, showing burial in Milliorn Cemetery) FRAER, Clarissa May, widow of George FRAER, deceased b. Jan 12, 1842 - d. 30 Nov 1929 (Have copy of Oregon Death Certificate No. 473, showing burial at Washburne & Milliorn, J.C.) GALE, William James d. Apr. 4, 1859, age 21 years This is the oldest stone now standing in the cemetry. No further information. GURLEY (Have only surname here and information from Sons of Union Civil War Veterans that he is another Civil War Soldier buried in Milliorn.) HAMILTON, Thaddeus M. (Have a pretty good summary of his Civil War Service and his life in this area. He is the third Civil War soldier buried in Milliorn Cemetery.) HAMILTON, William 1836-1905 Have biographical sketch from "Portrait and Biographical Record of Willamette Valley, Oregon, 1903 by Chapman Pub. Co. of Chicago. Is he related to Thaddeus Hamilton? HOFFMAN, William W. d. 1873, son of W.H. & H.H. HOFFMAN mother was Helen MILLIORN (The family is living in Junction City Lancaster precinct in the 1880 Federal Census.) HOUSTON, William Nevins 1870-1874 - 4-year-old child HOUSTON, Amelia Ella 1864-1879 - 15-year-old child (I have found no further information on this family.) LEE, Agnes V. b. Nov 16, 1877 - d. Jun 16, 1878 daugher of W.S. & Amanda M. Lee (I believe this is the W.S. LEE who was a druggist in Junction City and his wife. They were living in Junction City Lancaster precinct at the time of the 1880 Federal Census and W.S. Lee was one of the incorporators in 1893 of the Junction City Loan & Savings Bank.) LUPER, Mary S. (MILLIORN PICKETT) b. Dec, 10, 1844 - d. Jan. 26, 1880 wife of James N. LUPER (James LUPER was a single man, living in Lancaster precinct in 1870 and living in the Irving precinct in 1880. She was first married to Wm. G. PICKETT -- nasty divorce.) MILES, Emma A. d. Jan 1896, wife of Frank MILES, had 4 children (The only information is on the Find A Grave website listed by Arline Poole Cox. She found the death information in an early Junction City Times newspaper. MILLIORN, John 1804 - 1890 MILLIORN, Mary W. (LEE) b. 20 Mar 1811 - d. May 5, 1889 The Milliorn Cemetry is on the original Donation Land Claim of John & Mary (LEE) MILLIORN. This family was very instrumental in the founding and development of Junction City. MILLIORN, John F. b. Feb. 7, 1838 - d. Sep. 13, 1899 This is one of the sons of John and Mary MILLIORN. MORGAN, child of ??? 5-year-old child d. Aug 1910 This name was on research papers from the Oregon Genealogical Society. No further information. PICKETT, Wm. G. b. Jan 15, 1829 - d. Jul. 23, 1899 first husband of Mary S. (MILLIORN) LUPER PICKETT, Benia 8-month-old child; daughter of Mary S. PICKETT b. Jan 27, 1861 - d. Oct 15, 1861 PICKETT, Ada T. d. Aug. 4, 1864, age 1 yr, 10 mo, 22 days daughter of W.G. & Mary S. PICKETT PICKETT, Rachel b. Oct. 12, 1857 - d. Dec 8, 1885 (Have some information to put together on the PICKETT family. G.W. PICKETT was one of the founding directors of the Farmers & Merchants Bank May 2, 1893.) POINDEXTER, D.H. b. Mar 14, 1818 - d. Jul 14, 1879 POINDEXTER, Elizabeth - wife of D.H. POINDEXTER b. 13 Jul 1827 - death date not known (Will get death Certificate at Oregon Archives) (Have Federal Census records of the family 1860, 1870 & 1880, as well as the wonderfully written biography of Doctor Harvey POINDEXTER. Just received permission from the author last night to use her biographical information.) WADE, infant of ??? d. 17 Oct 1911 (This name was on research papers from the Oregon Genealogical Society. No further information.) ----- Original Message ----- From: LinLouVan at aol.com To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: [or-roots] Is there an Or-Roots archive? Does anyone have an archive of Or-Roots postings -- who could look up a posting I made on 12/5/04 - Subject: Milliorn Cemetery - an historic cemetery? Linda VanOrden LinLouVan at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 6 14:19:42 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:19:42 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing References: <20050106170619.87258.qmail@web81506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002901c4f43d$d2372bf0$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Erick, I have my mother-in-law's civil war photo album from the Robb, Axtell, and Brewer families. Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing Hi Stve-Ronda Thats a good idea Do you or Leslie have old bibles fromOlaf or Olof Petterson 1855 to 1969 Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Les, Ditto to all your comments! What Bibles do you have? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing > First a big loud three cheers for Cheryl for all the effort she put in on > behalf of Erick! > > Then there is Bob's comment about going back over things. Amen! My biggest > problem is no matter how many times I go over it, I still find whole > folders > full of information that never got assimilated; as in when I get real hot > on > a lead and find lots of neat stuff such as old church records posted to > the > internet or some such that have lots of my ancestors, so I frantically > grab > and save these web pages with the idea of "entering it in my family file > later" and then don't have time to do so for a few weeks, which means of > course I forget I have it. I would bet I probably have at least twenty or > thirty ancestors or their in-laws hidden somewhere in my 'web pages saved' > directory or 'census' or 'census maybe' folders. > > That last one is especially intriguing as there are a lot of people in > there > that "look" like they could be relatives, but with names like John Brown > who > knows? > > I also was intrigued by the item from Nancy about the old photo album. I > know we have old albums lost from our family, that we would kill to get > back, but that wasn't one of them sadly. I wish Nancy luck and sure wish > somebody would claim one of the bibles I have. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From CARROLLOUC at aol.com Thu Jan 6 16:13:51 2005 From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:13:51 EST Subject: [or-roots] Milliorn Cemetry - an historic cemetery Message-ID: <12e.54c9383c.2f0f2e3f@aol.com> Linda, looked this up under "Search Mail" which you should have on your AOL Carroll Cooper Summers I am appealing to anyone on this list who might have any information about the people listed here who are buried in Milliorn Cemetery in Junction City, Oregon. This cemetery is very close to the edge of what is now High Pass Road (slated to be upgraded in 2009). I am putting together as much information as possible about those buried there -- real pioneers of Junction City. I am in the process of putting together the history of the cemetery and bios of the people to present to the Planning Commissions and Councils that might be eager to wipe out part of the cemetery to please developers. Linda VanOrden - Junction City, Oregon -- LinLouVan at aol.com Any information and/or clues would be most welcome. Here is what I know: BLACHLEY, Della age 4 yrs ??? listed on the DAR list (No other information except there was an Ebenezer BLACHLEY family who came to Oregon with the emigrants of 1854 and are on censuses for the area in 1860, 1870 & 1880. But we need information to connect Della to a family.) BRYSON, Howard 3-day-old son of Louis BRYSON and Ruth DENNISEN have copy of Oregon Death Certificate #95 showing death 9 Mar 1932 and burial in Milliorn Cemetery 10 Mar 1932. BURGESS, George May 18, 1841 - 31 Mar 1912 (Listed in Civil War Soldiers & Sailors System Search Detail, Company B, 10 Wisconsin Infantry (Some Junction City history says he spent time in Andersonville Prison; another says Libbey Prison. I can not find him in either. Supposedly he was in prison with a Rev. Skaggs who is credited for saving his life.); He was living in South Junction Precinct at the time of the 1910 Federal census and we have a copy of Oregon State Death Certificate No. 1051 showing death 2 Apr 1912 with place of burial Junction City. CARSON, Sarah C. d. June 3, 1905, wife of G.M. CARSON CARSON, Carlie T. d. 23 Dec 1886, son of G.M. & S.C. CARSON (The family was living in the Junction City Lancaster Precinct at the time of the 1880 Federal census. - No further information.) CHRISTENSEN, Marie Nov 4, 1873 - Jun 9, 1912 CHRISTENSEN, Charl Aug 26, 1843 - Aug 9, 1910 CHRISTENSEN, Helle Apr 13, 1847 - Aug 29, 1902 (Have summary of family history confirming that all three are buried in Milliorn Cemetery. Also have photos of Charl & Helle, as well as of Marie.) COON, Willard M. 8-day-old son of Mr. and Mrs. John P. COON (The only information is on the Find A Grave website listed by Arline Poole Cox. She found the death information in an early Junction City Times newspaper. DENNISEN, Anna K. 1880-1902 (No further information. Someone leaves new artificial flowers on her grave each year.) FRAYER, George W. b. Nov 13, 1839 - d. May 27, 1915 (Have copy of Oregon Death Certificate No. 2739, showing burial in Milliorn Cemetery) FRAER, Clarissa May, widow of George FRAER, deceased b. Jan 12, 1842 - d. 30 Nov 1929 (Have copy of Oregon Death Certificate No. 473, showing burial at Washburne & Milliorn, J.C.) GALE, William James d. Apr. 4, 1859, age 21 years This is the oldest stone now standing in the cemetry. No further information. GURLEY (Have only surname here and information from Sons of Union Civil War Veterans that he is another Civil War Soldier buried in Milliorn.) HAMILTON, Thaddeus M. (Have a pretty good summary of his Civil War Service and his life in this area. He is the third Civil War soldier buried in Milliorn Cemetery.) HAMILTON, William 1836-1905 Have biographical sketch from "Portrait and Biographical Record of Willamette Valley, Oregon, 1903 by Chapman Pub. Co. of Chicago. Is he related to Thaddeus Hamilton? HOFFMAN, William W. d. 1873, son of W.H. & H.H. HOFFMAN mother was Helen MILLIORN (The family is living in Junction City Lancaster precinct in the 1880 Federal Census.) HOUSTON, William Nevins 1870-1874 - 4-year-old child HOUSTON, Amelia Ella 1864-1879 - 15-year-old child (I have found no further information on this family.) LEE, Agnes V. b. Nov 16, 1877 - d. Jun 16, 1878 daugher of W.S. & Amanda M. Lee (I believe this is the W.S. LEE who was a druggist in Junction City and his wife. They were living in Junction City Lancaster precinct at the time of the 1880 Federal Census and W.S. Lee was one of the incorporators in 1893 of the Junction City Loan & Savings Bank.) LUPER, Mary S. (MILLIORN PICKETT) b. Dec, 10, 1844 - d. Jan. 26, 1880 wife of James N. LUPER (James LUPER was a single man, living in Lancaster precinct in 1870 and living in the Irving precinct in 1880. She was first married to Wm. G. PICKETT -- nasty divorce.) MILES, Emma A. d. Jan 1896, wife of Frank MILES, had 4 children (The only information is on the Find A Grave website listed by Arline Poole Cox. She found the death information in an early Junction City Times newspaper. MILLIORN, John 1804 - 1890 MILLIORN, Mary W. (LEE) b. 20 Mar 1811 - d. May 5, 1889 The Milliorn Cemetry is on the original Donation Land Claim of John & Mary (LEE) MILLIORN. This family was very instrumental in the founding and development of Junction City. MILLIORN, John F. b. Feb. 7, 1838 - d. Sep. 13, 1899 This is one of the sons of John and Mary MILLIORN. MORGAN, child of ??? 5-year-old child d. Aug 1910 This name was on research papers from the Oregon Genealogical Society. No further information. PICKETT, Wm. G. b. Jan 15, 1829 - d. Jul. 23, 1899 first husband of Mary S. (MILLIORN) LUPER PICKETT, Benia 8-month-old child; daughter of Mary S. PICKETT b. Jan 27, 1861 - d. Oct 15, 1861 PICKETT, Ada T. d. Aug. 4, 1864, age 1 yr, 10 mo, 22 days daughter of W.G. & Mary S. PICKETT PICKETT, Rachel b. Oct. 12, 1857 - d. Dec 8, 1885 (Have some information to put together on the PICKETT family. G.W. PICKETT was one of the founding directors of the Farmers & Merchants Bank May 2, 1893.) POINDEXTER, D.H. b. Mar 14, 1818 - d. Jul 14, 1879 POINDEXTER, Elizabeth - wife of D.H. POINDEXTER b. 13 Jul 1827 - death date not known (Will get death Certificate at Oregon Archives) (Have Federal Census records of the family 1860, 1870 & 1880, as well as the wonderfully written biography of Doctor Harvey POINDEXTER. Just received permission from the author last night to use her biographical information.) WADE, infant of ??? d. 17 Oct 1911 (This name was on research papers from the Oregon Genealogical Society. No further information.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cchouk at cox.net Thu Jan 6 16:25:19 2005 From: cchouk at cox.net (Cecil Houk) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:25:19 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Milliorn Cemetry - an historic cemetery References: <12e.54c9383c.2f0f2e3f@aol.com> Message-ID: <00ab01c4f44f$5e1c1930$3db26f44@CecilHouk203> Yikes! Below is that message. Cecil ----- Original Message ----- From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Milliorn Cemetry - an historic cemetery Linda, looked this up under "Search Mail" which you should have on your AOL Carroll Cooper Summers I am appealing to anyone on this list who might have any information about the people listed here who are buried in Milliorn Cemetery in Junction City, Oregon. This cemetery is very close to the edge of what is now High Pass Road (slated to be upgraded in 2009). I am putting together as much information as possible about those buried there -- real pioneers of Junction City. I am in the process of putting together the history of the cemetery and bios of the people to present to the Planning Commissions and Councils that might be eager to wipe out part of the cemetery to please developers. Linda VanOrden - Junction City, Oregon -- LinLouVan at aol.com Any information and/or clues would be most welcome. Here is what I know: BLACHLEY, Della age 4 yrs ??? listed on the DAR list (No other information except there was an Ebenezer BLACHLEY family who came to Oregon with the emigrants of 1854 and are on censuses for the area in 1860, 1870 & 1880. But we need information to connect Della to a family.) BRYSON, Howard 3-day-old son of Louis BRYSON and Ruth DENNISEN have copy of Oregon Death Certificate #95 showing death 9 Mar 1932 and burial in Milliorn Cemetery 10 Mar 1932. BURGESS, George May 18, 1841 - 31 Mar 1912 (Listed in Civil War Soldiers & Sailors System Search Detail, Company B, 10 Wisconsin Infantry (Some Junction City history says he spent time in Andersonville Prison; another says Libbey Prison. I can not find him in either. Supposedly he was in prison with a Rev. Skaggs who is credited for saving his life.); He was living in South Junction Precinct at the time of the 1910 Federal census and we have a copy of Oregon State Death Certificate No. 1051 showing death 2 Apr 1912 with place of burial Junction City. CARSON, Sarah C. d. June 3, 1905, wife of G.M. CARSON CARSON, Carlie T. d. 23 Dec 1886, son of G.M. & S.C. CARSON (The family was living in the Junction City Lancaster Precinct at the time of the 1880 Federal census. - No further information.) CHRISTENSEN, Marie Nov 4, 1873 - Jun 9, 1912 CHRISTENSEN, Charl Aug 26, 1843 - Aug 9, 1910 CHRISTENSEN, Helle Apr 13, 1847 - Aug 29, 1902 (Have summary of family history confirming that all three are buried in Milliorn Cemetery. Also have photos of Charl & Helle, as well as of Marie.) COON, Willard M. 8-day-old son of Mr. and Mrs. John P. COON (The only information is on the Find A Grave website listed by Arline Poole Cox. She found the death information in an early Junction City Times newspaper. DENNISEN, Anna K. 1880-1902 (No further information. Someone leaves new artificial flowers on her grave each year.) FRAYER, George W. b. Nov 13, 1839 - d. May 27, 1915 (Have copy of Oregon Death Certificate No. 2739, showing burial in Milliorn Cemetery) FRAER, Clarissa May, widow of George FRAER, deceased b. Jan 12, 1842 - d. 30 Nov 1929 (Have copy of Oregon Death Certificate No. 473, showing burial at Washburne & Milliorn, J.C.) GALE, William James d. Apr. 4, 1859, age 21 years This is the oldest stone now standing in the cemetry. No further information. GURLEY (Have only surname here and information from Sons of Union Civil War Veterans that he is another Civil War Soldier buried in Milliorn.) HAMILTON, Thaddeus M. (Have a pretty good summary of his Civil War Service and his life in this area. He is the third Civil War soldier buried in Milliorn Cemetery.) HAMILTON, William 1836-1905 Have biographical sketch from "Portrait and Biographical Record of Willamette Valley, Oregon, 1903 by Chapman Pub. Co. of Chicago. Is he related to Thaddeus Hamilton? HOFFMAN, William W. d. 1873, son of W.H. & H.H. HOFFMAN mother was Helen MILLIORN (The family is living in Junction City Lancaster precinct in the 1880 Federal Census.) HOUSTON, William Nevins 1870-1874 - 4-year-old child HOUSTON, Amelia Ella 1864-1879 - 15-year-old child (I have found no further information on this family.) LEE, Agnes V. b. Nov 16, 1877 - d. Jun 16, 1878 daugher of W.S. & Amanda M. Lee (I believe this is the W.S. LEE who was a druggist in Junction City and his wife. They were living in Junction City Lancaster precinct at the time of the 1880 Federal Census and W.S. Lee was one of the incorporators in 1893 of the Junction City Loan & Savings Bank.) LUPER, Mary S. (MILLIORN PICKETT) b. Dec, 10, 1844 - d. Jan. 26, 1880 wife of James N. LUPER (James LUPER was a single man, living in Lancaster precinct in 1870 and living in the Irving precinct in 1880. She was first married to Wm. G. PICKETT -- nasty divorce.) MILES, Emma A. d. Jan 1896, wife of Frank MILES, had 4 children (The only information is on the Find A Grave website listed by Arline Poole Cox. She found the death information in an early Junction City Times newspaper. MILLIORN, John 1804 - 1890 MILLIORN, Mary W. (LEE) b. 20 Mar 1811 - d. May 5, 1889 The Milliorn Cemetry is on the original Donation Land Claim of John & Mary (LEE) MILLIORN. This family was very instrumental in the founding and development of Junction City. MILLIORN, John F. b. Feb. 7, 1838 - d. Sep. 13, 1899 This is one of the sons of John and Mary MILLIORN. MORGAN, child of ??? 5-year-old child d. Aug 1910 This name was on research papers from the Oregon Genealogical Society. No further information. PICKETT, Wm. G. b. Jan 15, 1829 - d. Jul. 23, 1899 first husband of Mary S. (MILLIORN) LUPER PICKETT, Benia 8-month-old child; daughter of Mary S. PICKETT b. Jan 27, 1861 - d. Oct 15, 1861 PICKETT, Ada T. d. Aug. 4, 1864, age 1 yr, 10 mo, 22 days daughter of W.G. & Mary S. PICKETT PICKETT, Rachel b. Oct. 12, 1857 - d. Dec 8, 1885 (Have some information to put together on the PICKETT family. G.W. PICKETT was one of the founding directors of the Farmers & Merchants Bank May 2, 1893.) POINDEXTER, D.H. b. Mar 14, 1818 - d. Jul 14, 1879 POINDEXTER, Elizabeth - wife of D.H. POINDEXTER b. 13 Jul 1827 - death date not known (Will get death Certificate at Oregon Archives) (Have Federal Census records of the family 1860, 1870 & 1880, as well as the wonderfully written biography of Doctor Harvey POINDEXTER. Just received permission from the author last night to use her biographical information.) WADE, infant of ??? d. 17 Oct 1911 (This name was on research papers from the Oregon Genealogical Society. No further information.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LinLouVan at aol.com Thu Jan 6 17:03:24 2005 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 20:03:24 EST Subject: [or-roots] Is there an Or-Roots archive? Message-ID: <19a.2d7cf220.2f0f39dc@aol.com> Thank you, Cecil. I knew I would find someone(s) who had it. Linda VanOrden -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing Hi Stve-Ronda Thats a good idea Do you or Leslie have old bibles fromOlaf or Olof Petterson 1855 to 1969 Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Les, Ditto to all your comments! What Bibles do you have? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing > First a big loud three cheers for Cheryl for all the effort she put in on > behalf of Erick! > > Then there is Bob's comment about going back over things. Amen! My biggest > problem is no matter how many times I go over it, I still find whole > folders > full of information that never got assimilated; as in when I get real hot > on > a lead and find lots of neat stuff such as old church records posted to > the > internet or some such that have lots of my ancestors, so I frantically > grab > and save these web pages with the idea of "entering it in my family file > later" and then don't have time to do so for a few weeks, which means of > course I forget I have it. I would bet I probably have at least twenty or > thirty ancestors or their in-laws hidden somewhere in my 'web pages saved' > directory or 'census' or 'census maybe' folders. > > That last one is especially intriguing as there are a lot of people in > there > that "look" like they could be relatives, but with names like John Brown > who > knows? > > I also was intrigued by the item from Nancy about the old photo album. I > know we have old albums lost from our family, that we would kill to get > back, but that wasn't one of them sadly. I wish Nancy luck and sure wish > somebody would claim one of the bibles I have. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com Thu Jan 6 18:57:05 2005 From: glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com (Glen Jones) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:57:05 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing References: <008701c4f443$bb4feca0$0c02a8c0@john> Message-ID: Seen this message checked my wife's genealogy as there are Robb's in her family James Robb M. to Mary Jane Kimel most from the Midwest. Glen Jones Portland, Or. From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Thu Jan 6 19:01:31 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:01:31 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] 1851 Oregon Trail Message-ID: <010720050301.26258.41DDFB8B00059747000066922200734830CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> My Great Great Grandfather, Joseph B. Goodman, b. 1819 in Indiana, died 1875 in Umitilla Oregon. 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URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Thu Jan 6 22:12:14 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:12:14 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Is there an Or-Roots archive? Bibles In-Reply-To: <7a.6a33c5f4.2f0f0dd5@aol.com> Message-ID: Heck fire Melinda, Linda; I haven't even gotten stuff from april '04 on out of my "Oregon List" folder in outlook, but won't bother to post your request since two other folks already did. In case anyone missed it, YES THERE IS AND ARCHIVE; http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/pipermail/or-roots/ I believe you can usually connect to info there with google, I know I have gone searching for stuff in google after posting a query here and came up with my own query as the only hit for the subject before. As to the bibles, I am embarrassed to say I can't locate the postings I made without more trouble than grabbing the bibles and retranscribing some stuff; ONe is fairly recent stuff, found abandoned in a house near Loone Lake, here in Douglas County, Oregon and is mostly Leise and Miller; with places from Alaska to Colorado, the bible belonged to Jeanette Leise, but oddly enough most of the genealogy in it is her husband Alfred Miller's, including his grandparents Zora and Jack Miller. The Other one is mostly from Des Moines, Iowa and I have no idea how it ended up in a thrift shop in Reedsport, Oregon; the surnames are Moore, Barnes, Yale, Hunter and some miscellaneous individuals. Six marriages, 15 births, with dates ranging from about 1864 to 1930, some of the given names are quite unusual; Janetta, Zenas (sp?) and Verva. If anyone thinks any of these surnames are of interest let me know, I will be glad to send you details off list, I don't really want to post too much for all the world to see. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:56 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Is there an Or-Roots archive? Does anyone have an archive of Or-Roots postings -- who could look up a posting I made on 12/5/04 - Subject: Milliorn Cemetery - an historic cemetery? Linda VanOrden LinLouVan at aol.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From alison at krutschfamily.com Fri Jan 7 10:04:44 2005 From: alison at krutschfamily.com (Alison Krutsch) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:04:44 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001e01c4f4e3$5e1c19f0$0c02a8c0@john> I also have some Robb ancestors. I have a James R. Robb married to Elizabeth Ellen Parrish (wife #1) and then married Rebecca Shinn Parrish (wife #2). Elizabeth and Rebecca are sisters. A little later is my great great grandmother who is named Ellen Robb Nickerson. I would be interested on any records for Robb. Ali From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 7 12:07:14 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:07:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050107200714.72850.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Again Leslie. I now have an obituary for Olaf Peterson, it reads Funeral services for Olaf I. Peterson, 67 of Friant, California will be held at 11 am. Peterson was a native of Oregon and had resided in Fresno County for 60 years. He was a logger and farm worker. Survivors include a son Merle, and a daughter, Burnece Peterson. Do you know where she is or where I can find somethng about her a birth or death cetificat and or an Obituary. You were so good last time I just know you will have all the right answers. Thanks again. Erick Leslie Chapman wrote: Erick; I sure can confuse things, I was so rummy when I wrote that I read your name as Olof Ericson or some such, sorry. As to how I knew it was him, I figured a name THAT unusual in the same town, even after 40 years had to be the same person. I gather you must have successfully contacted him, congratulations. I have some cousins in California I would dearly love to make contact with, but most of them apparently don't want to have anything to do with us, and haven't been in touch with us since my grandmother died in 1947, so probably never will make contact. I did tie up with a very distant relative of one of the lines from the in-laws side who said there were real hard feelings as apparently my blood kin was a wife beater and when she got smart enough to leave him, she made sure her family and ours lost contact. But the rest of them I just don't know what happened to. Oh Well, I have about twice as much family I know since I started on genealogy as I had before that and already had ten times as much family I was in touch with as a lot of folks, so I can't complain. I have met a few people in my life who had almost no blood relatives that they knew, I can't imagine that, my maternal grandparents have had 42 descendants by my count, though one of my aunts claimed 69 descendants years ago. Anyway glad to be able to help. LEs C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 6:08 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies Hello Lesly, Just wanted to thank you for helping find Murile Peterson it turns out he is my cousin that I have been looking for, How di your know? Thank You So Much, I owe you a dinner if I get to Cos Bay. Erick Leslie Chapman wrote: Olaf; I intended to check this the other day when you first posted your query, and I can only bla e the fackt I have been running around like a chicken with its legs cut off trying to get a 16 year accumulation of junk moved from one house to anohter in thirty days and am coming down with a cold. I would guess that: Murile Peterson 2691-14th St., North Bend, Oregon 541-756-2316 is very likely the person you are looking for. My aplogoies for not checking this sooner, but I was sure she wouldn't be there and I didn't have any plans to and didn't think you would be desperate enought to bother the other 55 people under the name Peterson in said phone book. Granted only part of them are in Coos Bay - North Bend, but after this long what was the chance she would actually be there. In my family I rate pertty high up in sedentariness now having been in the same town for 16 years. Some of my paretns generatation stayed in the same place all their lives, Dad never lived in one place any longer than ten years for most of his life. Feel free to tell her I gave you the info, so she can have somebody close by to be mad at if she isn't interested in hearing from long lost kin. Les Chapman. -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:44 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Hello Sue, About 80 years ago, then she was send to convent. Erick Sue Steward wrote: For Marile(?) Petersen you say last known address. Can you give us an approximate time when that was? Don't know if we're trying to find someone who was living 2-3 years ago or 25 y ears ago. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his child Marile Peterson as shown below: OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark Married Lottie Hall born April1868 Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, North Bend, Oregon Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. Thank you. Erick Olofsson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From croberts at mediageneral.com Fri Jan 7 13:46:39 2005 From: croberts at mediageneral.com (croberts at mediageneral.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:46:39 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] New Deal Records? Message-ID: <3219C7C32D20F9469831A0115AD963C90812AB45@MGEX01.mg.themeganet.com> Does anyone know if employment records (or others) from Oregon New Deal projects (WPA/CCC) are available to the public? Thanks, Chad Roberts Richmond, VA From trisch at charter.net Fri Jan 7 14:01:47 2005 From: trisch at charter.net (Trisha Neal) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:01:47 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] New Deal Records? References: <3219C7C32D20F9469831A0115AD963C90812AB45@MGEX01.mg.themeganet.com> Message-ID: <005301c4f504$7cb3f7e0$8917bf42@Trischa> Hi! You might check with the National Archives in Oregon for those records. If you go to the Oregon State Archives home page click on "SEARCH" and type in "Civilian Conservation" and run a search. It will bring up a list of items that should help you find what you are looking for--including the National Archives. http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/default.htm Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 Alaska Garnet Mining & Manufacturing Co., www.WrangellGarnetLedge.com Help give the ladies their place in history! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: [or-roots] New Deal Records? Does anyone know if employment records (or others) from Oregon New Deal projects (WPA/CCC) are available to the public? Thanks, Chad Roberts Richmond, VA _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 7 15:41:34 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:41:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050107234134.55796.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com> Hi again cheryl, I just wanted to thank you again for all the information it was great, I have been spending months looking for this. Thankyou Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Eric, I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find much more than you did. Here is what I have: Murile Peterson If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared on March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter, Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004. Olaf Peterson, Sr. You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him in the 1900 census records. Olaf Peterson, Jr. 1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page 190B. Is this Ruth Peterson? Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark, mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could this be the convent remembered in your family stories? From fitzcf at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 18:58:01 2005 From: fitzcf at hotmail.com (Cheryl Fitzsimons) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:58:01 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: <20050107234134.55796.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Erick, I am glad I was able to help you locate information on your family. Did you need me to email the census records to you? I have them saved in a pdf format and can email each one if you would like a copy. I can also scan the other information I found and email that to you also. Just let me know. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:41:34 -0800 (PST) > >Hi again cheryl, >I just wanted to thank you again for all the information it was great, I >have been spending months looking for this. >Thankyou >Erick > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >Hi Eric, > >I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find >much more than you did. Here is what I have: > >Murile Peterson >If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the >archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared >on >March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter, >Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So >it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the >Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004. > >Olaf Peterson, Sr. >You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him >in the 1900 census records. > >Olaf Peterson, Jr. >1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in >California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the >Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page >190B. > >Is this Ruth Peterson? >Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark, >mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum >in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could >this be the convent remembered in your family stories? > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Ruth Lillian Horn, SSN >571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno >County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was >Beasley. > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Olaf L. Peterson died 1 >February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in >Oregon, >mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054. > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Chester Howard Holdsclaw, SSN >551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in >Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy. >From the Oakhill Cemetery Inscriptions: Chester H. Holdsclaw died 30 March >1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill >Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of >kin was Ruth Holdsclaw. > >The Murphy line: >1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter), >Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George >(son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy, >Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure >what that means ? other, orphan? >2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California, >father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at >a >logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122. >3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood, >a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus >(daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11, >page 282A. You had this, I think. >4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California, >died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California >Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas, >Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there. > >From www.vitalsearch-ca.com: Alonzo Holdsclaw died 9 April 1932 in Fresno >County, California. He was 60 years old. > >I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research. > >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From whizinc at comcast.net Fri Jan 7 21:45:40 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:45:40 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Robb family References: <008701c4f443$bb4feca0$0c02a8c0@john> Message-ID: <00d001c4f545$49cb5f30$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Glen and Ali, Here are the Robbs that I have in our family. I am in contact with a couple of serious Robb researchers in the Midwest. If you'd like the email addresses, let me know and I'll send the address off list. John Robb married Mary Cochran. Their children were James (b. abt 1725), Robert, Margaret, Isabel and David. James Robb (b. abt 1725) married Martha Pollack. They had a son named John (b. abt 1780) John Robb (b. abt 1780) married Rhoda Axtell (b. 1782) I have a picture of this John Robb. Their children were Anna Robb (b. 1814), Hannah (b. abt 1803), Daniel (b. abt 1805), Sarah (b. abt 1806), James (b. abt 1806), Ruth (b. abt 1812), Mary Cochran (b. 1816), Polly (b. abt 1818), John M. (b. 1821) and Rhoda Burns Robb (b. 1823). James Robb (b. abt 1806) married Mary (b. abt 1812). Both were born in Pennsylvania. James died Oct 6, 1887 in Jackson County Iowa. Mary died July 16, 1888 also in Jackson County Iowa. This is not my direct line. I don't know anything more about this James and Mary. Does this fit your James and Mary Robb Glen? Ali, I found no Elizabeth or Ellen Parrish or Ellen Robb Nickerson. Have a great day! Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Jones" To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing > Seen this message checked my wife's genealogy as there are Robb's in her > family James Robb M. to Mary Jane Kimel most from the Midwest. > Glen Jones Portland, Or. > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots ----- Original Message ----- From: Alison Krutsch To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing Do you have anything in there about a James R. Robb and Elizabeth Ellen Parrish? Or maybe an Ellen Robb Nickerson? I just noticed you mentioned the surname Robb and thought I would give it a shot. Thanks, Ali From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 8 06:13:53 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 06:13:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050108141353.61377.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Cheryl, That would be wonderful if you would. Again Thank you Erick Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Erick, I am glad I was able to help you locate information on your family. Did you need me to email the census records to you? I have them saved in a pdf format and can email each one if you would like a copy. I can also scan the other information I found and email that to you also. Just let me know. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: RE: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:41:34 -0800 (PST) > >Hi again cheryl, >I just wanted to thank you again for all the information it was great, I >have been spending months looking for this. >Thankyou >Erick > >Cheryl Fitzsimons wrote: >Hi Eric, > >I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find >much more than you did. Here is what I have: > >Murile Peterson >If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the >archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared >on >March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter, >Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So >it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the >Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004. > >Olaf Peterson, Sr. >You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him >in the 1900 census records. > >Olaf Peterson, Jr. >1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in >California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the >Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page >190B. > >Is this Ruth Peterson? >Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark, >mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum >in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could >this be the convent remembered in your family stories? > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Ruth Lillian Horn, SSN >571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno >County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was >Beasley. > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Olaf L. Peterson died 1 >February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in >Oregon, >mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054. > >From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Chester Howard Holdsclaw, SSN >551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in >Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy. >From the Oakhill Cemetery Inscriptions: Chester H. Holdsclaw died 30 March >1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill >Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of >kin was Ruth Holdsclaw. > >The Murphy line: >1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter), >Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George >(son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy, >Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure >what that means ? other, orphan? >2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California, >father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at >a >logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122. >3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood, >a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus >(daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11, >page 282A. You had this, I think. >4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California, >died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California >Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas, >Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there. > >From www.vitalsearch-ca.com: Alonzo Holdsclaw died 9 April 1932 in Fresno >County, California. He was 60 years old. > >I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research. > >Cheryl > > > >From: Erick G Olofsson > >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. > >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his > >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > > > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > > > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > > > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > > > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty >Street, > >North Bend, Oregon > > > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find > >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > > > >Thank you. > > > >Erick Olofsson > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com Sat Jan 8 18:46:17 2005 From: glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com (Glen Jones) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:46:17 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Robb family References: <008701c4f443$bb4feca0$0c02a8c0@john> <00d001c4f545$49cb5f30$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: Hi Ronda and Ali What I have on my Wife's family for Robb. James L. Robb B. 1819 M. Mary Jane Kimel there children Hester, Lois, James, Maria, Mary Margaret, and Harriet Jane, Have no birth dates for them. Also Have David Alonzo Robb b. 1848 M. Tamson Louisa Smith there children Lucy, Alice F., Sherman, Mary c., Anna Louisa, Della May, Carrie Maud, Dean, Leita. these are the main ones do have more in my records most are from the Midwest Ohio over into Neb. Kansas. Etc. I do not have any records going back beyond the early 1800's My wife's Robb's are part of the Aumiller-Shoemaker family and they have a website on my family but not much of the family tree or history is posted, mostly just photos etc. Glen Jones Portland. PS: I see yours are from Iowa my own family (Cross's) on my mother's side were from Iowa. ( Akron, Clarinda, etc. and we have some old Iowa photos.) From khanjehgil at presys.com Sun Jan 9 09:55:00 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:55:00 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies In-Reply-To: <20050107200714.72850.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Erick; Sorry to take so long to get back, been real busy, but took some time this am for a lady on wheeler list so figured better take a shot at your folks. Unfortunately my favorite source has restricted my free access since last time I was there so can't do much about births, suggest you try Family History Center at nearest LDS church if possible. As you can see, the last Merle is the only likely one and the Bernice I found matches in terms of time of Birth, but I forget what the time fram for Olaf was and whether these can be his or not. That is about all I can do special for you except trying to google them and I don't really have time for that now. If you would like, remind me in a couple of weeks and I might have more free time. Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com Last_Name First_Name Middle_Name B_yr B_mo B_dy Mothers_Last_Name Fathers_Last_Name Sex Bp County_of_Death D_yr D_mo D_dy SS_Number Age idno PETERSON MERLE 1889 09 04 FEMALE IA SAN DIEGO 1976 01 15 466406143 86 0 PETERSON MERLE C 1922 07 27 STATTER HODGDON FEMALE CA TEHAMA 1991 09 28 551262504 69 0 PETERSON MERLE JERGAN 1909 02 02 LINBURG MALE IA SAN BERNARDINO 1989 02 24 562105368 80 0 PETERSON MERLE WILBUR 1905 05 16 LASTOFKA MALE CA SONOMA 1980 07 26 545037313 75 0 Last_Name First_Name Middle_Name B_yr B_mo B_dy Mothers_Last_Name Fathers_Last_Name Sex Bp County_of_Death D_yr D_mo D_dy SS_Number Age idno WINSHIP BERNICE M 1903 08 17 RINN PETERSON FEMALE CA SUTTER 1999 02 18 561524765 95 0 -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:07 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Murile with my apologies Hi Again Leslie. I now have an obituary for Olaf Peterson, it reads Funeral services for Olaf I. Peterson, 67 of Friant, California will be held at 11 am. Peterson was a native of Oregon and had resided in Fresno County for 60 years. He was a logger and farm worker. Survivors include a son Merle, and a daughter, Burnece Peterson. Do you know where she is or where I can find somethng about her a birth or death cetificat and or an Obituary. You were so good last time I just know you will have all the right answers. Thanks again. Erick --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whizinc at comcast.net Mon Jan 10 07:46:52 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:46:52 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Robb family References: <008701c4f443$bb4feca0$0c02a8c0@john> <00d001c4f545$49cb5f30$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <003f01c4f72b$9b45bdf0$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Glen and Ali, I have sent a query to my friend in the Midwest to see if she has your families in her database. Ali, I can't find your Robbs in my database, although I have some Parrish's (not your names) which don't seem to be connected. Glen, it doesn't seem like your James and Mary Robb are the same as my James and Mary Robb. Too bad! Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve & Ronda Howard" To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: [or-roots] Robb family > Hi Glen and Ali, > Here are the Robbs that I have in our family. I am in contact with a > couple of serious Robb researchers in the Midwest. From alison at krutschfamily.com Mon Jan 10 08:28:33 2005 From: alison at krutschfamily.com (Alison Krutsch) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:28:33 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Robb family In-Reply-To: <003f01c4f72b$9b45bdf0$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <002501c4f731$6df72c70$0c02a8c0@john> That's too bad. I was hoping to get more on this family. I heard he was a great person and that is why my gr gr grandmother was named after him. The Parrish that I have pretty much all descend from Reverend Edward Evans Parrish, but I have nothing on the Robb family. Thanks for checking! Ali From glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com Mon Jan 10 09:42:38 2005 From: glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:42:38 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Robb family References: <008701c4f443$bb4feca0$0c02a8c0@john> <00d001c4f545$49cb5f30$0300a8c0@Home> <003f01c4f72b$9b45bdf0$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: Ronda I now how that goes on checking families, as I mentioned I do have more Robb's. I have a lot of fun with my mother's family and my wife's as both our families have Cross in then and all from the same area yet as far as we can find so far not connection, but who knows what further research will turn up and that could be the same way for Robb. Glen Jones Portland, Oregon From comerslr at mindspring.com Wed Jan 12 14:16:44 2005 From: comerslr at mindspring.com (Anne Comer) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:16:44 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Meier & Franks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, all. Does anyone remember a story that was posted here some years ago about a peddler who gave a new needle to an Oregon pioneer family whose precious needle had been lost? I think he later founded Meier & Franks department store. If anyone can dredge up that story, I would be grateful. Thanks, Anne I have this message again because I am not sure if it got through to the list. 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URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Wed Jan 12 16:47:13 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:47:13 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Meier & Franks References: Message-ID: <050a01c4f909$6c9e44b0$8657aa41@sue> http://bluebook.state.or.us/cultural/history/history13.htm Aaron Meier, a Jewish emigrant from Germany, worked his way north in the mid-1850s from the Sierra gold fields to new mines in the Rogue River Valley. He carried needles, thread, buttons, and bolts of cloth in his traveling dry goods business. He worked hard, saved, and in 1857 opened a small retail store in Portland, then a town of 1,300 residents. The city's boom during the 1860s with opening of new mining fields in the interior and the flow of capital through the emerging city gave him the chance to expand his business. In time Sigmund Frank, his son-in-law, joined him. Meier & Frank Department Store was on its way to becoming one of the nation's largest retail outlets. http://www.salemhistory.net/Business/bgfk001.htm Gerry Frank info With all this talk of needles, I think it's appropriate to share a story with you. The following is quoted from Quilt in a Day's "Pioneer Sampler" by Eleanor Burns. Eleanor provides the following reference...Pioneer folklore from Women's Voices from the Oregon Train, pp. 134-135; Susan G. Butruille, Tamarack Books, Inc., Boise, ID, 1993. The Missing Needle The year was 1853 and Grandmother Drain owned the only darning needle in Pass Creek Canyon, Oregon. It was the most cared-for-possession in the small community of fifteen families! When clothing needed to be patched and mended, everyone knew Grandmother Drain would lend it out. Sharing the needle went well--until the day eight year old Jimmy Chitwood was to take it back to its owner. Mrs. Chitwood put a long red raveling through the eye of the needle, knotted the raveling, put the needle into a potato, and sent Jimmy off to Grandmother Drain's cabin. The small animals on the trail did not distract Jimmy from his important mission--until a mother bear with her two cubs came into sight! He quickly hid behind a stump under a bush until the bears left, and then he went on. Oh, yes, as you guessed! The worst happened to poor Jimmy! Imagine his horror to discover the only needle in town was lost while under his care. All of the neighbors joined in the search--a search which seemed futile. Suddenly Jimmy disappeared into the bushes. When he reappeared, he had the needle--still stuck in the potato. Jimmy had finally recalled the stump where he had hidden when frightened by the bears. The whole town shared the joy of finding the needle. One day in the fall of 1855, the head of the needle broke off as Grandmother Drain was sewing. All of the ladies in Pass Creek Canyon hoped that a needle would soon be provided. It was around Thanksgiving when a peddler rode into Pass Creek on a mule. One of the ladies bought a comb, two bought dress goods, another one bought a doll head. Then, they remembered the need for a needle, and shared their story. Being a generous man, the peddler gave a "Christmas present" to each of the families of Pass Creek Canyon. The peddler was Aaron Meier. After several years of peddling his wares across Oregon, he opened his own store in Portland in 1857. With the help of his family, he developed the Meier and Frank company into one of America's great family-owned department stores. "The Oregonian" ran a full-page ad on January 1, 1967. The headline read "Have you ever heard the story of 'The Potato and and Darning Needle'?" At the end was an invitation: "We still want every woman to have a darning needle of her own. Come into our Fabric Center at any one of our three stores Tuesday and get yours, free." http://www.quilthistory.com/98312.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Comer To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:16 PM Subject: [or-roots] Meier & Franks Hi, all. Does anyone remember a story that was posted here some years ago about a peddler who gave a new needle to an Oregon pioneer family whose precious needle had been lost? I think he later founded Meier & Franks department store. If anyone can dredge up that story, I would be grateful. Thanks, Anne I have this message again because I am not sure if it got through to the list. I beg your pardon if it gots to you twice, but better twice than not at all. :-) ****************************************** Descended from these Oregon/Washington Territory Pioneers and Early Settlers: - Dela Fletcher and Phoebe (Flanary) CRABTREE, arrived 1846, Linn County - James W. and Elizabeth (Empson) PEEK, arrived 1847, Lane County - William Martin and Mary "Polly" (Dealy) PRINE, arrived 1850, Linn>Lake>Linn Counties - Rev. Joab and Anna (Beeler) POWELL, arrived 1852, Linn County - William Moore and Sarah (Scott) RUTLEDGE, arrived 1852, Thurston>Lewis>Baker>Linn Counties - Thomas C. SMITH, arrived before 1860, Lane>Thurston>Benton Counties - John Benjamin and Nancy Jane (Hamilton) HUDELSON, arrived 1876, Polk>Linn Counties -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Wed Jan 12 23:09:45 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:09:45 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories In-Reply-To: <050a01c4f909$6c9e44b0$8657aa41@sue> Message-ID: Okay; You folks did so good on the missing needle of Pass Creek story, maybe somebody out there can answer a question for me; I have been trying to determine where the "Pass Creek Inn" from the 1880 Census is. As near as I have been able to determine it was probably in Shadybrook, which may or may not appear in place names of Oregon references. I have two reasons to be interested in this, first of all I grew up just over the ridge from Shadybrook, but have never been there, and in the 1880 Census some cousins of my Mother were managing the Inn, so I am really curious where it was. Les Chapman >The year was 1853 and Grandmother Drain owned the only darning needle in Pass Creek Canyon, Oregon. It was the most cared-for-possession in the small community of fifteen families! When clothing needed to be patched and mended, everyone knew Grandmother Drain would lend it out.> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 13 07:24:48 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:24:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Message-ID: <20050113152448.62784.qmail@web81501.mail.yahoo.com> Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 13 08:03:56 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:03:56 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. References: <20050113152448.62784.qmail@web81501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01c4f989$7e9164b0$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Erick, I looked on Ancestry. They must not be done with their 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. While there are many who are born in Sweden, I could find none born near 1855 in Denmark. Seeing his son was born in Oregon in 1899 I thought I'd check in the state of Oregon, only to find there was no Oregon or Washington enumerated in 1900 (yet). Here's what I found in immigration: Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:01 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Arrival Date Estimated Birth Year Gender Port of Departure Place of Origin Destination Ship Name View Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives, Washington, D.C. Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:03 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:03 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Naturalization Date Former Nationality Birth Date Court John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mag_m.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1049 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rayp6217 at comcast.net Thu Jan 13 08:06:21 2005 From: rayp6217 at comcast.net (Ray Powell) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:06:21 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories References: Message-ID: <003801c4f989$d353b250$6401a8c0@Dell6217> Leslie, I was unable to find Shadybrook anywhere in Oregon. I did find a Pass Creek and a Pass Creek Shelter as well as a West Pass Creek Rd and a Pass Creek Trail. The were all in an area about 35 miles east and a little north of Sutherlin, OR. The lat/lon of the shelter is N43? 29.25' W122? 47.28' There may be other places that went by the same name for a short period of time but never were recorded as such. Good luck! Ray Powell Researching the Calvin Powell line that came out of MA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories > Okay; > > You folks did so good on the missing needle of Pass Creek story, maybe > somebody out there can answer a question for me; I have been trying to > determine where the "Pass Creek Inn" from the 1880 Census is. As near as I > have been able to determine it was probably in Shadybrook, which may or > may > not appear in place names of Oregon references. > > I have two reasons to be interested in this, first of all I grew up just > over the ridge from Shadybrook, but have never been there, and in the 1880 > Census some cousins of my Mother were managing the Inn, so I am really > curious where it was. > > Les Chapman > >>The year was 1853 and Grandmother Drain owned the only darning needle in > Pass Creek Canyon, Oregon. It was the most cared-for-possession in the > small > community of fifteen families! When clothing needed to be patched and > mended, everyone knew Grandmother Drain would lend it out.> > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 13 08:15:10 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:15:10 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. References: <20050113152448.62784.qmail@web81501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002e01c4f98b$0e649660$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives, Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 13 08:18:02 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:18:02 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. References: <20050113152448.62784.qmail@web81501.mail.yahoo.com> <002a01c4f989$7e9164b0$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <003b01c4f98b$753aba90$0300a8c0@Home> Hi everyone, Sorry for the duplicate. I accidently hit the send button before I was done. Look at the second email for everything. Rond ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve & Ronda Howard To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Erick, I looked on Ancestry. They must not be done with their 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. While there are many who are born in Sweden, I could find none born near 1855 in Denmark. Seeing his son was born in Oregon in 1899 I thought I'd check in the state of Oregon, only to find there was no Oregon or Washington enumerated in 1900 (yet). Here's what I found in immigration: From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Thu Jan 13 08:26:32 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:26:32 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories References: Message-ID: <05e801c4f98c$a551ddc0$8657aa41@sue> There is a Pass Creek Covered Bridge in Drain which seems to be the Pass Creek mentioned in the Meier and Frank story. Couldn't find anything on a Pass Creek Innc. Sue ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Article published May 22, 2004 Covered Bridges Covered bridges have been a staple of Oregon life since territorial days. In 1851, eight years before Oregon became a state, locals placed a roof on a bridge crossing the Willamette River at Oregon City, where thousands of emigrants ended their journey across the Oregon Trail. Nearly 300 covered bridges were built throughout the state. About 60 have survived, including seven in Douglas County. PASS CREEK Built in 1925, this bridge is owned by the city of Drain and is one of only a few Oregon covered bridges located within city boundaries. Pass Creek Bridge is the last remaining span of three that were built at Drain, the other two being the Morningstar Bridge over Elk Creek and the East Drain Bridge, which was upstream from Pass Creek Bridge. The 61-foot-long Pass Creek Bridge was one of the oldest continually used bridges remaining in the state when it was moved a few hundred yards downstream in 1987. The first bridge at the original site was built in 1906, then replaced by the current structure in 1925. It now stands behind the Drain Civic Center at Third and A streets and is open exclusively to foot traffic, which often includes teens walking to classes at North Douglas High School. http://www.newsreview.info/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040522/DISCOVER04/105220066&template=printart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories > Okay; > > You folks did so good on the missing needle of Pass Creek story, maybe > somebody out there can answer a question for me; I have been trying to > determine where the "Pass Creek Inn" from the 1880 Census is. As near as I > have been able to determine it was probably in Shadybrook, which may or may > not appear in place names of Oregon references. > > I have two reasons to be interested in this, first of all I grew up just > over the ridge from Shadybrook, but have never been there, and in the 1880 > Census some cousins of my Mother were managing the Inn, so I am really > curious where it was. > > Les Chapman > > >The year was 1853 and Grandmother Drain owned the only darning needle in > Pass Creek Canyon, Oregon. It was the most cared-for-possession in the small > community of fifteen families! When clothing needed to be patched and > mended, everyone knew Grandmother Drain would lend it out.> > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 13 09:18:44 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:18:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: <002e01c4f98b$0e649660$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <20050113171844.40128.qmail@web81509.mail.yahoo.com> Hi again Ronda Steve, Olof Peterson was born 1855 Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives, Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 13 09:44:56 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:44:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: <002e01c4f98b$0e649660$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <20050113174456.59871.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com> Ronda I am sorry didn't see your other question. 1900 he was either in Oregon where his son Olaf was born or in San Francisco, California where his wife Lottie Hall and child or children were klled Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives, Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 13 12:53:12 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: <002e01c4f98b$0e649660$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <20050113205312.52102.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives, Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Thu Jan 13 13:05:05 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:05:05 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. References: <20050113205312.52102.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <078101c4f9b3$8eab4df0$8657aa41@sue> I tried checking the 1900 Oregon census index but did not find our family there. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 13 13:09:17 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:09:17 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. References: <20050113174456.59871.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01c4f9b4$24e16fc0$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Erick, I thought I'd try a couple different searches. Here are Ancestry's global searches for Olof Peterson in Oregon and Washington. Let me know which sound interesting and I'll send them off list. Ronda Search Results: Olof Peterson in Oregon Featured Databases 10 matches 1930 United States Federal Census 9 1920 United States Federal Census 1 Your search returned 20 matches in the databases below. Census Records 13 matches 1930 United States Federal Census 9 1910 United States Federal Census 3 1920 United States Federal Census 1 Birth, Marriage, & Death Records 6 matches Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 5 Social Security Death Index 1 Directories & Membership Lists 1 matches Search for a living Olof Peterson in the MyFamily People Finder Portland, Oregon Directories, 1890-91 1 ----------------------------- Search Results: Olof Peterson in California Featured Databases 14 matches 1930 United States Federal Census 8 OneWorldTreeSM 5 1920 United States Federal Census 1 Your search returned 39 matches in the databases below. Census Records 17 matches 1930 United States Federal Census 8 1910 United States Federal Census 4 1900 United States Federal Census 3 1880 United States Federal Census 1 1920 United States Federal Census 1 Birth, Marriage, & Death Records 10 matches California Death Index, 1940-1997 9 Social Security Death Index 1 Immigration & Naturalization Records 2 matches San Francisco Passenger Lists 2 Directories & Membership Lists 3 matches Search for a living Olof Peterson in the MyFamily People Finder San Francisco, California Directories, 1889-91 1 1994 Phone and Address Directory 1 2000 Phone and Address Directory 1 Trees & Community 6 matches Ancestry World Tree entries for Olof Peterson OneWorldTreeSM 5 Family Data Collection - Individual Records 1 Family & Local Histories 1 matches LDS Biographical Encyclopedia 1 ---------------------- Database: 1900 United States Federal Census January 13, 2005 1:06 PM NameHome in 1900 (City,County,State)Estimated Birth YearBirthplaceRaceRelation to Head-of-house Olof Peterson San Francisco, San Francisco, California abt 1850 Sweden White Head Olof Peterson San Jose Ward 4, Santa Clara, California abt 1860 Sweden White Head Olof Peterson San Jose Ward 2, Santa Clara, California abt 1867 Sweden White Head Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1900 U.S. Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States. 1900 United States Federal Census. T623, 1854 rolls. National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Ronda I am sorry didn't see your other question. 1900 he was either in Oregon where his son Olaf was born or in San Francisco, California where his wife Lottie Hall and child or children were klled Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From penny.malmquist at acsalaska.net Thu Jan 13 13:41:27 2005 From: penny.malmquist at acsalaska.net (Penny) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:41:27 -0900 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: <20050113205312.52102.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c4f9b8$a4945620$0100a8c0@pennymal> Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsam at sampubco.com Thu Jan 13 13:48:51 2005 From: dsam at sampubco.com (dsam at sampubco.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:48:51 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Message-ID: <291220-220051413214851129@M2W071.mail2web.com> Erick, he was born in 1855 because both 1910 and 1920 as well as his return from Denmark in 1921 confirmed the birth year as 1855. Anyone looking for Olaf Petersen, should consider the odd spellings, Peterson, Pettersen, Patterson, Paterson and given names as Oluf, Olat, Olif David Samuelsen Original Message: ----------------- From: Erick G Olofsson coollugan at sbcglobal.net Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:53:12 -0800 (PST) To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives, Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Social Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 13 14:47:53 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:47:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: <000001c4f9b8$a4945620$0100a8c0@pennymal> Message-ID: <20050113224753.84567.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database online]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kith-n-kin at att.net Thu Jan 13 15:03:12 2005 From: kith-n-kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:03:12 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: <20050113224753.84567.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006e01c4f9c4$10604f70$6401a8c0@Tower1> Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "head of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From comerslr at mindspring.com Thu Jan 13 16:00:05 2005 From: comerslr at mindspring.com (Anne Comer) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:00:05 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Meier & Frank and the lost needle, found! In-Reply-To: <002c01c4f9b4$24e16fc0$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <3F0CC6C8-65BF-11D9-B12A-00039375EBBC@mindspring.com> I have found it! Google wins my vote. I guess I didn't learn about the needle story from one of you or-roots list members at all, but from a quilting discussion group that I used to haunt several years ago. It seems it was printed in "Women's Voices from the Oregon Trail" by Susan G. Butruille and retold in "Pioneer Sampler" by Eleanor Burns. It also was printed in The Oregonian in 1967. Since it is a colorful story from Oregon history I think it belongs here. Whether it is completely true or only partly true I don't know but it is still a great story. It certainly is plausible because Frank did start his career as a pedlar. From the Oregon Blue Book History web page I found the following: http://bluebook.state.or.us/cultural/history/history13.htm > Aaron Meier, a Jewish emigrant from Germany, worked his way north in > the mid-1850s from the Sierra gold fields to new mines in the Rogue > River Valley. He carried needles, thread, buttons, and bolts of cloth > in his traveling dry goods business. He worked hard, saved, and in 1857 > opened a small retail store in Portland, then a town of 1,300 > residents. The city's boom during the 1860s with opening of new mining > fields in the interior and the flow of capital through the emerging > city gave him the chance to expand his business. In time Sigmund Frank, > his son-in-law, joined him. Meier & Frank Department Store was on its > way to becoming one of the nation's largest retail outlets. ...and the needle story in the quilting discussion group: http://www.quilthistory.com/98312.htm > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:17:36 -0800 > From: "August, Rachel" > To: "List--QHL" > Subject: QHL: The Missing Needle--Long > The Crazy Quilt List is having a discussion re needles and needlecases. > I sent the following message to them and want to share it with you > folks as well... > ********************************************** > With all this talk of needles, I think it's appropriate to share a > story with you. The following is quoted from Quilt in a Day's "Pioneer > Sampler" by > Eleanor Burns. Eleanor provides the following reference...Pioneer > folklore from Women's Voices from the Oregon Train, pp. 134-135; Susan > G. Butruille, Tamarack Books, Inc., Boise, ID, 1993. > The Missing Needle > > The year was 1853 and Grandmother Drain owned the only darning needle > in Pass Creek Canyon, Oregon. It was the most cared-for-possession in > the small community of fifteen families! When clothing needed to be > patched and mended, everyone knew Grandmother Drain would lend it out. > > Sharing the needle went well--until the day eight year old Jimmy > Chitwood was to take it back to its owner. Mrs. Chitwood put a long red > raveling through the eye of the needle, knotted the raveling, put the > needle into a potato, and sent Jimmy off to Grandmother Drain's cabin. > > The small animals on the trail did not distract Jimmy from his > important mission--until a mother bear with her two cubs came into > sight! He quickly hid behind a stump under a bush until the bears left, > and then he went on. Oh, yes, as you guessed! The worst happened to > poor Jimmy! Imagine his horror to discover the only needle in town was > lost while under his care. > > All of the neighbors joined in the search--a search which seemed > futile. Suddenly Jimmy disappeared into the bushes. When he reappeared, > he had the needle--still stuck in the potato. Jimmy had finally > recalled the stump where he had hidden when frightened by the bears. > The whole town shared the joy of finding the needle. > > One day in the fall of 1855, the head of the needle broke off as > Grandmother Drain was sewing. All of the ladies in Pass Creek Canyon > hoped that a needle would soon be provided. > > It was around Thanksgiving when a peddler rode into Pass Creek on a > mule. One of the ladies bought a comb, two bought dress goods, another > one bought a doll head. Then, they remembered the need for a needle, > and shared their story. Being a generous man, the peddler gave a > "Christmas present" to each of the families of Pass Creek Canyon. > > The peddler was Aaron Meier. After several years of peddling his wares > across Oregon, he opened his own store in Portland in 1857. With the > help of his family, he developed the Meier and Frank company into one > of America's great family-owned department stores. > > "The Oregonian" ran a full-page ad on January 1, 1967. The headline > read "Have you ever heard the story of 'The Potato and and Darning > Needle'?" At the end was an invitation: "We still want every woman to > have a darning needle of her own. Come into our Fabric Center at any > one of our three stores Tuesday and get yours, free." Anne Hudelson Comer ****************************************** Descended from these Oregon/Washington Territory Pioneers and Early Settlers: - Dela Fletcher and Phoebe (Flanary) CRABTREE, arrived 1846, Linn County - James W. and Elizabeth (Empson) PEEK, arrived 1847, Lane County - William Martin and Mary "Polly" (Dealy) PRINE, arrived 1850, Linn>Lake>Linn Counties - Rev. Joab and Anna (Beeler) POWELL, arrived 1852, Linn County - William Moore and Sarah (Scott) RUTLEDGE, arrived 1852, Thurston>Lewis>Baker>Linn Counties - Thomas C. SMITH, arrived before 1860, Lane>Thurston>Benton Counties - John Benjamin and Nancy Jane (Hamilton) HUDELSON, arrived 1876, Polk>Linn Counties From dsam at sampubco.com Thu Jan 13 16:00:43 2005 From: dsam at sampubco.com (dsam at sampubco.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:00:43 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Message-ID: <5600-2200515140043764@M2W067.mail2web.com> Yes it is him. and he showed up again in 1920 in Fresno, this time with one daughter (Esther) and 2 grandchildren. The burning question is where was he in 1900, because Esther is listed as servant in San Francisco. Erick confirmed Olaf had daughter Esther and had those 2 named grandchildren as of 1920. So where's Olaf? David Samuelsen Original Message: ----------------- From: Kith-n-Kin kith-n-kin at att.net Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:03:12 -0700 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "head of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From comerslr at mindspring.com Thu Jan 13 17:08:16 2005 From: comerslr at mindspring.com (Anne Comer) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 17:08:16 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't know what is going on, but apparently I am not receiving my or-roots mail. I have had to go to the archives to find out that people received my Meier & Frank message and replied to it. For example, Leslie Chapman writes that "You folks did so good on the missing needle. . . story. . ." What????? I didn't get any response at all except from one individual who wrote to me personally. Now I find out in the archives that some of you did indeed answer my query. Thank you for that, especially to Sue Steward who seems to have dredged up the same pieces of information that I did from the internet. Please excuse me if I sound a bit addled on the subject but I am not getting the whole conversation. I think I will try to un-subscribe and re-subscribe to see if the problem will clear up. Anne My ancestor lines: CRABTREE, POWELL, PRINE, PEEK, HUDELSON/HUDDLESTON, RUTLEDGE, HAMILTON, DICKERSON, KITCHEL, EMPSON, FLANARY, BOGGS, BEELER, PETRE, STALCOP, MUSGRAVE, McDONALD/MacDONNELL and others too numerous to mention. 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In a Letter between relative it talks of Olof visit to Denmark where he said: He was married three times, had survived all three wives, had had 21 children totally, had lost one wife and seven children at the earthquake in San Francisco, they were suppressed between their beds Lottie Hall had a sister Nettie Hall born Feb.1872 both girls in Cal. Father from Va. Mother N.Y. But I amafraid thats all I have. Good Luck I hope you will help me Erick Kith-n-Kin wrote:Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "head of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Thu Jan 13 19:52:01 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:52:01 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories - more details In-Reply-To: <003801c4f989$d353b250$6401a8c0@Dell6217> Message-ID: Ray and all; I guess I should have spelled out the nature of my question in a little more detail; Yes I know where Pass Creek is, I grew up crossing the headwaters of said stream every time I went to School or town as the stream is kind of an odd one, in theory it may be a "pirated" portion of the Willamette River, some geologists believe that the Umpqua or a branch theroeof once emptied into the Willamette and then was stolen to flow out to sea at Reedsport, which ironically is where I live now. And yes, the Pass Creek Covered Bridge is relevant to the same stream, Pass Creek flows under said bridge about a hundred feet before it empties into Elk Creek in downtown Drain Oregon, named for the Drain Family of "Grandma Drain" from the lost needle story. As to Shadybrook, I am not surprised it doesn't show up in any reference, it was a mill site mainly though I believe in the early 20th century at least a few families actually lived there. As I said I have never been there, though I grew up just a couple of miles away. One of my cousins that was spending the summer with us wandered off and got lost and ended up spending the night near there when I was a child, but all of my life it has been essentially an unroaded area that I never had any reason to visit. I just looked on the topo map to see if I could figure out just where it is and suspect I have been within a quarter mile or so of it as I believe I wandered out the ridge to the south of it once while deer hunting when I took a wrong turn in the brush up on the divide between Martin Creek and Bear Creek. Anyone really curious where it is I would place Shadybrook at about 43 degrees 44' 9.51" N. Lat, 123 degrees 10' 35.16" W. Long. give or take a half mile. I was always going to go there with my father and never got around to it. The reason I am interested in the Pass Creek Inn location is manyfold; one, I find that cousins from one of the more colorful branches of my family are listed in the 1880 Census as managing said Inn, which would place a part of my mother's family just a whoop and a holler from where my father's family would end up 25 years or so later. Also we have a story that my great aunt Nora and her family would always stop "somewhere on Pass Creek" to visit relatives whenever they came to the Valley. This actually adds more puzzle than it resolves issues, as by the time the cousin who passed on this information was born, the Inn managers were in Washington, so it couldn't have been them Aunt Nora was visiting. (see my agonizing search for these folks in the census in nauseating detail in the Or-roots archives, probably under subject Llewellyn in Wa or some such) The third reason I am interested in pinning down the location of the Pass Creek In is that I recently read in "Golden was the Past" a Cottage Grove Historical Society publication, that one of the earliest trails through this region ran along the south side of the ridge that runs between the head waters of Pass Creek and the south fork of Martin Creek where I grew up, which means I have wandered all over large portions of this historic trail and never noticed it. In point of fact I suspect that the 'jeep trail' that my father and I improved so that he could take me up to spend week days with my little sister on Wards Butte Lookout while he and mom finished there college educations they had started thirty plus years before, might have been a portion of that trail known as the Scott Trail. Somewhere in the vicinity of our ranch, ("Golden was the Past" was a little vague on that point) was a stage stop on the Scott Trail, if that turned out to be the Pass Creek Inn I think it would be a real hoot. I am terribly afraid I spelled this all out in boring detail the last time I posted a question about the Inn to this list, but I hope some of you found this narrative at least a little amusing. Les C PS. I have always been fascinated by the name 'Shadybrook' and when I became a fan of whatever you would call Quicksilver Messenger Services style of music, especially "Shadygrove" I thought the name even more interesting. So I guess the big question is, why haven't I ever been there? LC -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Ray Powell Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:06 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Pass Creek stories Leslie, I was unable to find Shadybrook anywhere in Oregon. I did find a Pass Creek and a Pass Creek Shelter as well as a West Pass Creek Rd and a Pass Creek Trail. The were all in an area about 35 miles east and a little north of Sutherlin, OR. The lat/lon of the shelter is N43? 29.25' W122? 47.28' There may be other places that went by the same name for a short period of time but never were recorded as such. Good luck! Ray Powell Researching the Calvin Powell line that came out of MA. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From khanjehgil at presys.com Fri Jan 14 07:09:07 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:09:07 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: <20050114032005.53478.qmail@web81501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Erick; Heritage quest is down tonight so can't help you with the 1900 Census, I might be able to hunt him down by brute force in the 1900 Census when we get DSL (if ever!!!) but thought I would Google Lottie and see what I found; from; http://www.gerlecreek.com/documents/dumnayokuts.htm [Oliver] Perry and Ellen Murphy lived on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) raising hogs to make a living, in addition to [Oliver] Perry also mining with his brother, Jasper Murphy, born about 1833/34 in Arkansas. Jasper Murphy died in February 1893 at the age of 60 plus and was considered "one of the old landmarks of the valley." Jasper Newton Murphy married an Indian girl, Pol-chin, who was 14 when they married. They also raised cattle on and about Table Mountain. [Oliver] Perry Murphy died on March 27, 1897 at the age of 64. Ellen Murphy(Yet-choo-nook) died at age 95 on April 27, 1936 in Madera. During the last 12 years, she lived with her daughter Nancy Jane Murphy Kinsman Webb in her home in Madera. Thomas Murphy, lived his entire life on this property on Table Mountain Rancheria, eventually receiving the ranch as a Indian Patent from the US Government in 1951. Thomas Murphy died in July, 1959. His sister, Caroline (Carrie) Murphy Kennedy, married to Thomas F. Kennedy, acting as his estate administrator, took control of the 145 acre ranch on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) and sold it in July 1960. Caroline (Carrie Murphy) and Tom Kennedy (Kennedy Ranch) had 3 children, Florence Kennedy Holt, b. April 10, 1922, Thomas Kennedy, b. Dec. 19, 1920 and June Kennedy Trewartha, b. June 18, 1924. Pat's grandfather was Thurman Higgins Murphy Sr, who after returning from serving in the US Army in WWI, married a Pomo woman, Esther Petersen (born July 8, 190l, died 1928) from Mendocino County, Ca.(Father-Olaf Petersen, from Denmark (died at home in Fresno) married Lottie Hall a Pomo woman from Mendocino. Lottie died in 1906 in the San Francisco earthquake. They had two children, Olaf (died 1967) one son, Marile Petersen, living in Oregon and Esther) see page for more interesting stuff; I had one other hit that looked promising from google that I couldn't get searched because everytime I tried to search it the search denied that any of the info I was searching for was on that page, (I hate PDF's) and I thought it had to be lying, but every method I could think of to check in Word froze my puter, finally this morning I figured a way and sue enough, no Lottie, no Olof, no Peterson, so why did google give me that page??? Anyway I have Heritage quest this am and tried again for Olof, I hate to say it but I suspect he fell through the cracks in 1900, or he isn't in Oregon or Ca; searched Olaf, Olof, Petersen son, tterson ttersen derson dersen and no luck, did find one guy who is in Census twice in Crescent City though which means whole neighborhood probably in twice. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:20 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again Pat in Tuscon, My Grandfather Married Lottie Hall born April1868 a Pomo Indian from Mendocino, Ca. Died 1906 in the San Fran. Earthquake of 1906 while walking down a flight of marble stairs at her home in San Francisco when a marble column fell on her crushing her and an unborn baby. In a Letter between relative it talks of Olof visit to Denmark where he said: He was married three times, had survived all three wives, had had 21 children totally, had lost one wife and seven children at the earthquake in San Francisco, they were suppressed between their beds Lottie Hall had a sister Nettie Hall born Feb.1872 both girls in Cal. Father from Va. Mother N.Y. But I amafraid thats all I have. Good Luck I hope you will help me Erick Kith-n-Kin wrote: Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "head of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 14 08:03:17 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:03:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050114160317.58986.qmail@web81506.mail.yahoo.com> Hi again Leslie, You sure are a sweet woman thank you, I did know about him marrying a Pomo indiian woman. he sure lead a different life style, but I can see him a little in my life and also that of some of my relatives. If you find anything more please advise, I still don't know for sure where to look for his naturalization papers. Thank you Erick Leslie Chapman wrote: Erick; Heritage quest is down tonight so can't help you with the 1900 Census, I might be able to hunt him down by brute force in the 1900 Census when we get DSL (if ever!!!) but thought I would Google Lottie and see what I found; from; http://www.gerlecreek.com/documents/dumnayokuts.htm [Oliver] Perry and Ellen Murphy lived on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) raising hogs to make a living, in addition to [Oliver] Perry also mining with his brother, Jasper Murphy, born about 1833/34 in Arkansas. Jasper Murphy died in February 1893 at the age of 60 plus and was considered "one of the old landmarks of the valley." Jasper Newton Murphy married an Indian girl, Pol-chin, who was 14 when they married. They also raised cattle on and about Table Mountain. [Oliver] Perry Murphy died on March 27, 1897 at the age of 64. Ellen Murphy(Yet-choo-nook) died at age 95 on April 27, 1936 in Madera. During the last 12 years, she lived with her daughter Nancy Jane Murphy Kinsman Webb in her home in Madera. Thomas Murphy, lived his entire life on this property on Table Mountain Rancheria, eventually receiving the ranch as a Indian Patent from the US Government in 1951. Thomas Murphy died in July, 1959. His sister, Caroline (Carrie) Murphy Kennedy, married to Thomas F. Kennedy, acting as his estate administrator, took control of the 145 acre ranch on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) and sold it in July 1960. Caroline (Carrie Murphy) and Tom Kennedy (Kennedy Ranch) had 3 children, Florence Kennedy Holt, b. April 10, 1922, Thomas Kennedy, b. Dec. 19, 1920 and June Kennedy Trewartha, b. June 18, 1924. Pat's grandfather was Thurman Higgins Murphy Sr, who after returning from serving in the US Army in WWI, married a Pomo woman, Esther Petersen (born July 8, 190l, died 1928) from Mendocino County, Ca.(Father-Olaf Petersen, from Denmark (died at home in Fresno) married Lottie Hall a Pomo woman from Mendocino. Lottie died in 1906 in the San Francisco earthquake. They had two children, Olaf (died 1967) one son, Marile Petersen, living in Oregon and Esther) see page for more interesting stuff; I had one other hit that looked promising from google that I couldn't get searched because everytime I tried to search it the search denied that any of the info I was searching for was on that page, (I hate PDF's) and I thought it had to be lying, but every method I could think of to check in Word froze my puter, finally this morning I figured a way and sue enough, no Lottie, no Olof, no Peterson, so why did google give me that page??? Anyway I have Heritage quest this am and tried again for Olof, I hate to say it but I suspect he fell through the cracks in 1900, or he isn't in Oregon or Ca; searched Olaf, Olof, Petersen son, tterson ttersen derson dersen and no luck, did find one guy who is in Census twice in Crescent City though which means whole neighborhood probably in twice. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:20 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again Pat in Tuscon, My Grandfather Married Lottie Hall born April1868 a Pomo Indian from Mendocino, Ca. Died 1906 in the San Fran. Earthquake of 1906 while walking down a flight of marble stairs at her home in San Francisco when a marble column fell on her crushing her and an unborn baby. In a Letter between relative it talks of Olof visit to Denmark where he said: He was married three times, had survived all three wives, had had 21 children totally, had lost one wife and seven children at the earthquake in San Francisco, they were suppressed between their beds Lottie Hall had a sister Nettie Hall born Feb.1872 both girls in Cal. Father from Va. Mother N.Y. But I amafraid thats all I have. Good Luck I hope you will help me Erick Kith-n-Kin wrote: Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "head of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Jan 14 08:17:34 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:17:34 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. References: <20050114160317.58986.qmail@web81506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <08f801c4fa54$8ef75ff0$8657aa41@sue> Peterson, Ole 11-01-1876 Naturalization/Citizenshipn Clatsop County V 1 039 http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/reference.html Oregon State Archives In the Oregon State Archives there is a naturalization for Ole Peterson in 1876. You might want to get a copy of that from the state archives and see if that is possibly him. Might be worth a few dollars to check it out BUT ... it might not be him. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again Leslie, You sure are a sweet woman thank you, I did know about him marrying a Pomo indiian woman. he sure lead a different life style, but I can see him a little in my life and also that of some of my relatives. If you find anything more please advise, I still don't know for sure where to look for his naturalization papers. Thank you Erick Leslie Chapman wrote: Erick; Heritage quest is down tonight so can't help you with the 1900 Census, I might be able to hunt him down by brute force in the 1900 Census when we get DSL (if ever!!!) but thought I would Google Lottie and see what I found; from; http://www.gerlecreek.com/documents/dumnayokuts.htm [Oliver] Perry and Ellen Murphy lived on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) raising hogs to make a living, in addition to [Oliver] Perry also mining with his brother, Jasper Murphy, born about 1833/34 in Arkansas. Jasper Murphy died in February 1893 at the age of 60 plus and was considered "one of the old landmarks of the valley." Jasper Newton Murphy married an Indian girl, Pol-chin, who was 14 when they married. They also raised cattle on and about Table Mountain. [Oliver] Perry Murphy died on March 27, 1897 at the age of 64. Ellen Murphy(Yet-choo-nook) died at age 95 on April 27, 1936 in Madera. During the last 12 years, she lived with her daughter Nancy Jane Murphy Kinsman Webb in her home in Madera. Thomas Murphy, lived his entire life on this property on Table Mountain Rancheria, eventually receiving the ranch as a Indian Patent from the US Government in 1951. Thomas Murphy died in July, 1959. His sister, Caroline (Carrie) Murphy Kennedy, married to Thomas F. Kennedy, acting as his estate administrator, took control of the 145 acre ranch on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) and sold it in July 1960. Caroline (Carrie Murphy) and Tom Kennedy (Kennedy Ranch) had 3 children, Florence Kennedy Holt, b. April 10, 1922, Thomas Kennedy, b. Dec. 19, 1920 and June Kennedy Trewartha, b. June 18, 1924. Pat's grandfather was Thurman Higgins Murphy Sr, who after returning from serving in the US Army in WWI, married a Pomo woman, Esther Petersen (born July 8, 190l, died 1928) from Mendocino County, Ca.(Father-Olaf Petersen, from Denmark (died at home in Fresno) married Lottie Hall a Pomo woman from Mendocino. Lottie died in 1906 in the San Francisco earthquake. They had two children, Olaf (died 1967) one son, Marile Petersen, living in Oregon and Esther) see page for more interesting stuff; I had one other hit that looked promising from google that I couldn't get sea rched because everytime I tried to search it the search denied that any of the info I was searching for was on that page, (I hate PDF's) and I thought it had to be lying, but every method I could think of to check in Word froze my puter, finally this morning I figured a way and sue enough, no Lottie, no Olof, no Peterson, so why did google give me that page??? Anyway I have Heritage quest this am and tried again for Olof, I hate to say it but I suspect he fell through the cracks in 1900, or he isn't in Oregon or Ca; searched Olaf, Olof, Petersen son, tterson ttersen derson dersen and no luck, did find one guy who is in Census twice in Crescent City though which means whole neighborhood probably in twice. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:20 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again Pat in Tuscon, My Grandfather Married Lottie Hall born April1868 a Pomo Indian from Mendocino, Ca. Died 1906 in the San Fran. Earthquake of 1906 while walking down a flight of marble stairs at her home in San Francisco when a marble column fell on her crushing her and an unborn baby. In a Letter between relative it talks of Olof visit to Denmark where he said: He was married three times, had survived all three wives, had had 21 children totally, had lost one wife and seven children at the earthquake in San Francisco, they wer e suppressed between their beds Lottie Hall had a sister Nettie Hall born Feb.1872 both girls in Cal. Father from Va. Mother N.Y. But I amafraid thats all I have. Good Luck I hope you will help me Erick Kith-n-Kin wrote: Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "h ead of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place o f mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 O ct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ far m MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kith-n-kin at att.net Fri Jan 14 09:05:54 2005 From: kith-n-kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:05:54 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ab01c4fa5b$4fe397a0$6401a8c0@Tower1> I have to agree! I looked high and low in the HQ census and came up empty. A question to ask, however, is whether or not Lottie and the children were registered on the Tribal Roles? And, perhaps they were all living with Lottie's family in 1900 -- we don't seem to know Lottie's father's name? I looked up the Halls in Mendocino County and came up empty there as well, but not the other tribal locations. Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 08:09 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Erick; Heritage quest is down tonight so can't help you with the 1900 Census, I might be able to hunt him down by brute force in the 1900 Census when we get DSL (if ever!!!) but thought I would Google Lottie and see what I found; from; http://www.gerlecreek.com/documents/dumnayokuts.htm [Oliver] Perry and Ellen Murphy lived on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) raising hogs to make a living, in addition to [Oliver] Perry also mining with his brother, Jasper Murphy, born about 1833/34 in Arkansas. Jasper Murphy died in February 1893 at the age of 60 plus and was considered "one of the old landmarks of the valley." Jasper Newton Murphy married an Indian girl, Pol-chin, who was 14 when they married. They also raised cattle on and about Table Mountain. [Oliver] Perry Murphy died on March 27, 1897 at the age of 64. Ellen Murphy(Yet-choo-nook) died at age 95 on April 27, 1936 in Madera. During the last 12 years, she lived with her daughter Nancy Jane Murphy Kinsman Webb in her home in Madera. Thomas Murphy, lived his entire life on this property on Table Mountain Rancheria, eventually receiving the ranch as a Indian Patent from the US Government in 1951. Thomas Murphy died in July, 1959. His sister, Caroline (Carrie) Murphy Kennedy, married to Thomas F. Kennedy, acting as his estate administrator, took control of the 145 acre ranch on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) and sold it in July 1960. Caroline (Carrie Murphy) and Tom Kennedy (Kennedy Ranch) had 3 children, Florence Kennedy Holt, b. April 10, 1922, Thomas Kennedy, b. Dec. 19, 1920 and June Kennedy Trewartha, b. June 18, 1924. Pat's grandfather was Thurman Higgins Murphy Sr, who after returning from serving in the US Army in WWI, married a Pomo woman, Esther Petersen (born July 8, 190l, died 1928) from Mendocino County, Ca.(Father-Olaf Petersen, from Denmark (died at home in Fresno) married Lottie Hall a Pomo woman from Mendocino. Lottie died in 1906 in the San Francisco earthquake. They had two children, Olaf (died 1967) one son, Marile Petersen, living in Oregon and Esther) see page for more interesting stuff; I had one other hit that looked promising from google that I couldn't get searched because everytime I tried to search it the search denied that any of the info I was searching for was on that page, (I hate PDF's) and I thought it had to be lying, but every method I could think of to check in Word froze my puter, finally this morning I figured a way and sue enough, no Lottie, no Olof, no Peterson, so why did google give me that page??? Anyway I have Heritage quest this am and tried again for Olof, I hate to say it but I suspect he fell through the cracks in 1900, or he isn't in Oregon or Ca; searched Olaf, Olof, Petersen son, tterson ttersen derson dersen and no luck, did find one guy who is in Census twice in Crescent City though which means whole neighborhood probably in twice. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:20 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again Pat in Tuscon, My Grandfather Married Lottie Hall born April1868 a Pomo Indian from Mendocino, Ca. Died 1906 in the San Fran. Earthquake of 1906 while walking down a flight of marble stairs at her home in San Francisco when a marble column fell on her crushing her and an unborn baby. In a Letter between relative it talks of Olof visit to Denmark where he said: He was married three times, had survived all three wives, had had 21 children totally, had lost one wife and seven children at the earthquake in San Francisco, they were suppressed between their beds Lottie Hall had a sister Nettie Hall born Feb.1872 both girls in Cal. Father from Va. Mother N.Y. But I amafraid thats all I have. Good Luck I hope you will help me Erick Kith-n-Kin wrote: Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "head of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place of mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 Oct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ farm MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Jan 14 09:14:36 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:14:36 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. References: <20050114160317.58986.qmail@web81506.mail.yahoo.com> <08f801c4fa54$8ef75ff0$8657aa41@sue> Message-ID: <092501c4fa5c$86d110c0$8657aa41@sue> Peterson, O I 01-03-1887 Naturalization/Intention Clatsop County Pike, Edna A & Peterson, Olaf I 09-15-1886 Marriage Clatsop County Here's more from the Oregon State Archives ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Steward To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Peterson, Ole 11-01-1876 Naturalization/Citizenshipn Clatsop County V 1 039 http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/reference.html Oregon State Archives In the Oregon State Archives there is a naturalization for Ole Peterson in 1876. You might want to get a copy of that from the state archives and see if that is possibly him. Might be worth a few dollars to check it out BUT ... it might not be him. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again Leslie, You sure are a sweet woman thank you, I did know about him marrying a Pomo indiian woman. he sure lead a different life style, but I can see him a little in my life and also that of some of my relatives. If you find anything more please advise, I still don't know for sure where to look for his naturalization papers. Thank you Erick Leslie Chapman wrote: Erick; Heritage quest is down tonight so can't help you with the 1900 Census, I might be able to hunt him down by brute force in the 1900 Census when we get DSL (if ever!!!) but thought I would Google Lottie and see what I found; from; http://www.gerlecreek.com/documents/dumnayokuts.htm [Oliver] Perry and Ellen Murphy lived on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) raising hogs to make a living, in addition to [Oliver] Perry also mining with his brother, Jasper Murphy, born about 1833/34 in Arkansas. Jasper Murphy died in February 1893 at the age of 60 plus and was considered "one of the old landmarks of the valley." Jasper Newton Murphy married an Indian girl, Pol-chin, who was 14 when they married. They also raised cattle on and about Table Mountain. [Oliver] Perry Murphy died on March 27, 1897 at the age of 64. Ellen Murphy(Yet-choo-nook) died at age 95 on April 27, 1936 in Madera. During the last 12 years, she lived with her daughter Nancy Jane Murphy Kinsman Webb in her home in Madera. Thomas Murphy, lived his entire life on this property on Table Mountain Rancheria, eventually receiving the ranch as a Indian Patent from the US Government in 1951. Thomas Murphy died in July, 1959. His sister, Caroline (Carrie) Murphy Kennedy, married to Thomas F. Kennedy, acting as his estate administrator, took control of the 145 acre ranch on Table Mountain Rancheria (see section 1 of the map) and sold it in July 1960. Caroline (Carrie Murphy) and Tom Kennedy (Kennedy Ranch) had 3 children, Florence Kennedy Holt, b. April 10, 1922, Thomas Kennedy, b. Dec. 19, 1920 and June Kennedy Trewartha, b. June 18, 1924. Pat's grandfather was Thurman Higgins Murphy Sr, who after returning from serving in the US Army in WWI, married a Pomo woman, Esther Petersen (born July 8, 190l, died 1928) from Mendocino County, Ca.(Father-Olaf Petersen, from Denmark (died at home in Fresno) married Lottie Hall a Pomo woman from Mendocino. Lottie died in 1906 in the San Francisco earthquake. They had two children, Olaf (died 1967) one son, Marile Petersen, living in Oregon and Esther) see page for more interesting stuff; I had one other hit that looked promising from google that I couldn't get sea rched because everytime I tried to search it the search denied that any of the info I was searching for was on that page, (I hate PDF's) and I thought it had to be lying, but every method I could think of to check in Word froze my puter, finally this morning I figured a way and sue enough, no Lottie, no Olof, no Peterson, so why did google give me that page??? Anyway I have Heritage quest this am and tried again for Olof, I hate to say it but I suspect he fell through the cracks in 1900, or he isn't in Oregon or Ca; searched Olaf, Olof, Petersen son, tterson ttersen derson dersen and no luck, did find one guy who is in Census twice in Crescent City though which means whole neighborhood probably in twice. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:20 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again Pat in Tuscon, My Grandfather Married Lottie Hall born April1868 a Pomo Indian from Mendocino, Ca. Died 1906 in the San Fran. Earthquake of 1906 while walking down a flight of marble stairs at her home in San Francisco when a marble column fell on her crushing her and an unborn baby. In a Letter between relative it talks of Olof visit to Denmark where he said: He was married three times, had survived all three wives, had had 21 children totally, had lost one wife and seven children at the earthquake in San Francisco, they wer e suppressed between their beds Lottie Hall had a sister Nettie Hall born Feb.1872 both girls in Cal. Father from Va. Mother N.Y. But I amafraid thats all I have. Good Luck I hope you will help me Erick Kith-n-Kin wrote: Erick This is Pat in Tucson (the one who didn't know where North Bend is). Here is the 1910 census: 1910 > CALIFORNIA > FRESNO > 10-TWP Series: T624 Roll: 76 Page: 137 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year PETERSEN OLIF 55 M W DENM CA FRESNO 10-TWP 1910 Petersen, Olif. Companion m w 55 Wd DenDanish DenDanish DenDenish imm 1873, Naturalized, speaks English, Felling timber. It appears that "companion" means that the loggers shared a house and one was designated as "h ead of household." It was probably pretty arbitrary. You see that he is widowed and, according to this, at least, immigrated in 1873. I have tried to find Lottie and young Olaf to no avail. And, can't find any of them on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census. I realize it must be my spelling, or poor, tired, brain, but maybe you can give us some other information. (1) Where was Lottie born? Do you know anything about her family? Could she have another name besides "Lottie"? (2) Do you know anything about her parents? If she was dead by 1910, perhaps the children were being raised by a sibling, or her parents. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 15:48 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi Penny, Olof was born 1855 so it most not be him but maybe you could look further and also give me that mans wife and daughters names. Thank you so much. Erick Penny wrote: Erick: I have access to 1900 Census from Genealogy.com. There is an Olaf Peterson in the 5th Precinct, Clatsop County, Oregon from Denmark born in 1863 and immigrated in 1877 at age 23. He is with his wife and two daughters. Penny -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Erick G Olofsson Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:53 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hi again, Just wanted to be sure you got an answer. Olof Peterson born 1855 Denmark was probably naturalized in Coos bay or big Bend, Oregon, do you know anyone with an indexed 1900 Oregon Census. Erick Steve & Ronda Howard wrote: Hi Erick, I looked in Ancestry. They must not be finished with their enumeration of the 1900 census yet. I looked for Olof and Olaf, Peterson and Petersen. I could find no one born near 1885 from Denmark. I decided to look in Oregon when I found there was no Oregon or Washington (yet). Do you know where he was in 1900? Here's what I found for immigration. All are from Ancestry.com Ronda -------------------------- Database: San Francisco Passenger Lists January 13, 2005 8:04 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DepartureLast ResidenceShip Name Nils Olof Peterson 07 Mar 1919 1891 Male Yokohama, Japan Japan Grotius Olof Peter Peterson 21 Oct 1901 1872 Male Newcastle, Australia Norway Hereford Source Information: Ancestry.com. San Francisco Passenger Lists [database o nline]. Pro vo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: San Francisco, California. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco, 1893-1953. Micropublication M1410. Rolls # 1-429. National Archives, Washington, D.C. --------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 13, 2005 8:07 AM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Olof Peterson 18 Jun 1881 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America Baltic Olof Peterson 8 Jun 1882 1855 Male Liverpool, England Sweden United States of America City of Montreal Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives , Washington, D.C. -------------------------- Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s has 12 matches for: Olof Peterson from 1855-1945 About this database The largest and most comprehensive index of US passenger and immigration information available. Particularly valuable for those with ancestors who arrived in America before 1820. Name: Olof Peterson Year: 1882 Place: America Source Publication Code: 6412.45 Primary Immigrant: Peterson, Olof Annotation: Date and place of naturalization, date and place of immigration, or date and place o f mention. Original records located at Chicago City Hall. Address, precinct, ward, court district, occupation, place of birth, education, family, and other information provided. Source Bibliography: OLSSON, NILS WILLIAM. Swedish Voters in Chicago, 1888, Based on Voter Registrations of 1888. Winter Park, FL: SAG Publications, 1999. 302p. Page: 213 ----------------------------------- Database: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s January 13, 2005 8:09 AM Name Year Age Place of Arrival Olof Peterson 1882 America Olof Peterson 1861 Illinois Olof Peterson 1880 Illinois Olof Peterson 1892 Illinois Olof Peterson 1870 Kansas Olof Peterson 1880 68 Kansas Olof Peterson 1871 Maine Olof Peterson 1887-1900 33 Montana Olof Peterson 1890-1900 50 Montana Olof Peterson 1900 52 Montana Olof Manfred Peterson 1896-1906 Indiana Olof Martin Peterson 1909 New York Source Information: Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: Filby, P. William, edit. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research, 2003. -------------------------- Database: New York Petitions for Naturalization January 13, 2005 8:09 AM NameNaturalization DateFormer NationalityBirth DateCourt John Olof Peterson 11 Oct 1883 King of Sweden Superior Court, New York County John Olof Peterson 08 May 1903 Scandinavian 12 Oct 1864 U S District Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 19 Oct 1887 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof Peterson 11 May 1887 King of Norway and Sweden City Court, Brooklyn, NY Olof Peterson 24 Aug 1891 Swedish Common Pleas Court, New York County Olof A Peterson 04 Mar 1889 King of Norway and Sweden County Court, Kings County, NY Olof K Peterson 22 O ct 1884 King of Norway Superior Court, New York County Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Petitions for Naturalization [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. Soundex Index to Peti tions for Naturalization filed in Federal, State, and Local Courts located in New York City, 1792-1906. New York City, New York: National Archives and Records Administration, Northeast Region. ----- Original Message ----- From: Erick G Olofsson To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [or-roots] Does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. Hello does anyone have access to an indexed 1900 OR census. I am looking for Naturalization papers and or indexed census information for my grandfather: Olof Peterson (Andreasen) Born 1/3/1855,or 1/4/1855 @ far m MORHULT SODREG Shodam, Alsonstrup, Denmark, His family moved to Sweden January 8 1857. He Emigrated 3/31/1882, or 1854 or 1886 and 1921 to USA. I am realy uncertain. He had at least two children 1899 Olaf Peterson born 4/12/1899 in Oregon and died in February1, 1967 in Friant, California age 67.Soci al Security # 567-01-0054 Married Nancy Euing of California. he had a son Merile Peterson 1901/7/8 Esther was born in Mendiceno County, California. THank you for your continued help in this matter Erick _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sat Jan 15 14:08:07 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:08:07 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Message-ID: <011520052208.14918.41E994470000A77400003A462205886172CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djbrtb at kci.net Sat Jan 15 16:26:07 2005 From: djbrtb at kci.net (D. J. Brotherton) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:26:07 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck References: <011520052208.14918.41E994470000A77400003A462205886172CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000901c4fb61$f937ce00$dc47bb40@kci.net> Bob I am assuming that you have found the 1880 Census with CoraBell living in Fox Valley, Oregon which is now called Lyons, Oregon. Also they have her father's name listed as Saul instead of Samuel. Some of the family is buried at Fox Valley Cemetery . Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Sat Jan 15 15:23:04 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:23:04 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck References: <011520052208.14918.41E994470000A77400003A462205886172CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0b6701c4fb59$2aaeb3d0$8657aa41@sue> He is listed in the 1880 census Fox Valley, Linn County, Oregon as Saul M. Mclane age 48, b. KY, Farmer, parent's birthplaces are not completed. Included in the household are wife Josephene A.; Frances McLane, Da, George W. McLane, Owen D. McLane, Cora B. McLane; and Francis Berry Father-in-law and Pennelia Berry, Mother=in=law and a farm laborer Otto Herffman. On Ancestry.com there is submitted information by Tom Chism tgchism at hotmail.com This indicates that Samuel M. and Josephine Amanda Berry were married in 1865 in Oregon. In the Oregon Historical Index/Oregon State Archives there is a delayed birth certificate for Herbert Berry McLane b. 9-12-1881 in Linn County, Oregon. This is not answering your question about Samuel's parents but may give you another lead. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MStang5165 at aol.com Sat Jan 15 15:40:22 2005 From: MStang5165 at aol.com (MStang5165 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:40:22 EST Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Message-ID: <19d.2dbb2e8d.2f1b03e6@aol.com> In the Linn County Marriage Books, Book B, page 296 is the following listing: Berry, Josephine md. McClane, Samuel M., 10 December 1865 This is an extraction originally compiled by Harley & Helen Haskin, revised by Richard Milligan. In the 1905 Oregon State Census of Linn County, Lyons, I find: (transcription) McLane, Geo. W., age 35, born Oregon Mary E., age 23, born Kansas Lula F., age 9 mo., born Oregon Josephine U., age 58, widow, born Missouri Herbert M. (no age), born Oregon Robert C. (no age), born Oregon Hope this helps. Someone mentioned a delayed birth certificate for Herbert Berry McLane - you can order this from the Oregon State Archives. Mimi Stang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Sat Jan 15 15:44:13 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:44:13 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck References: <011520052208.14918.41E994470000A77400003A462205886172CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0b7501c4fb5c$1f008fb0$8657aa41@sue> In the Oregon Death Index there is a Samuel McLain who died 22 April 1910 in Benton County, Cert #976. It might be worth getting a copy from the Oregon State Archives just to see if it might be him. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sat Jan 15 19:53:12 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:53:12 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) Message-ID: <011620050353.20420.41E9E527000F1C2C00004FC42200734830CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Thanks guys for all the info. The Mclane I'm looking should have a birth day before 1832--most likely around 1800 plus or minus. One of the problems is that there are a number of spellings for Mclane e.g. McClain, Mcclaine, Mclean, etc. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- Bob I am assuming that you have found the 1880 Census with CoraBell living in Fox Valley, Oregon which is now called Lyons, Oregon. Also they have her father's name listed as Saul instead of Samuel. Some of the family is buried at Fox Valley Cemetery . Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maxinecunningham at msn.com Sat Jan 15 21:01:48 2005 From: maxinecunningham at msn.com (Maxine Cunningham) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:01:48 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) Message-ID: Bob, This could be who you are looking for. 1850 census District 1, Marian County, Kentucky, taken September 26. Household 816 Samuel McClain 50 farmer Ky. can't read or write Kesiah 47 female Va. can't read or write Nancy 21 Ky. Thomas A. 20 Laborer Ky. Samuel M. 18 Laborer Ky. Cynthia 15 Ky. Catherine 13 Ky. James R. 9 Ky. William D. 3 Ky. Charity Martin 77 Va. insane Hope this helps you. Maxine ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:05 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) Thanks guys for all the info. The Mclane I'm looking should have a birth day before 1832--most likely around 1800 plus or minus. One of the problems is that there are a number of spellings for Mclane e.g. McClain, Mcclaine, Mclean, etc. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- Bob I am assuming that you have found the 1880 Census with CoraBell living in Fox Valley, Oregon which is now called Lyons, Oregon. Also they have her father's name listed as Saul instead of Samuel. Some of the family is buried at Fox Valley Cemetery . Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Sat Jan 15 21:02:54 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:02:54 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) References: <011620050353.20420.41E9E527000F1C2C00004FC42200734830CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0c4501c4fb88$a386a1d0$8657aa41@sue> In Ancestry.com there is a Samuel M McLane (appears to be yours, born in KY and married in OR) with a "One World Tree" which requires an additional subscription which I don't have. Maybe someone will check that for you and see if it has information about his parents. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) Thanks guys for all the info. The Mclane I'm looking should have a birth day before 1832--most likely around 1800 plus or minus. One of the problems is that there are a number of spellings for Mclane e.g. McClain, Mcclaine, Mclean, etc. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- Bob I am assuming that you have found the 1880 Census with CoraBell living in Fox Valley, Oregon which is now called Lyons, Oregon. Also they have her father's name listed as Saul instead of Samuel. Some of the family is buried at Fox Valley Cemetery . Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maxinecunningham at msn.com Sat Jan 15 21:46:23 2005 From: maxinecunningham at msn.com (Maxine Cunningham) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:46:23 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) Message-ID: Bob, here is a couple more things I've found on the previous McClains that I had sent earlier. Washington County, Ky. Marriages, Book 1-page 263 Samuel McLean and Keziah Martin married 21 May 1827 Minister was Thomas Atterbury; Thomas Martin (doesn't say if he is a witness or maybe father of bride) 1830 Census Washington County, Ky. Samuel L. McLean, 1 male under 5, 1 male 20-30; 1 female under 5, 1 female 20-30 1840 Washington County, Ky. Samuel McLean, 2 males 5-10, 1 male 30-40; 2 females under 5, 1 female 10-15; 1 female 30-40. Since Marian County is just south of Washington County, they could have been in the same area, but the border lines could have changed. Maxine ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 11:05 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) Thanks guys for all the info. The Mclane I'm looking should have a birth day before 1832--most likely around 1800 plus or minus. One of the problems is that there are a number of spellings for Mclane e.g. McClain, Mcclaine, Mclean, etc. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- Bob I am assuming that you have found the 1880 Census with CoraBell living in Fox Valley, Oregon which is now called Lyons, Oregon. Also they have her father's name listed as Saul instead of Samuel. Some of the family is buried at Fox Valley Cemetery . Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Sat Jan 15 21:58:02 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:58:02 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck In-Reply-To: <011520052208.14918.41E994470000A77400003A462205886172CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob; You pose a question I may not be able to do any good on Heritage quest with, but google came up with one interesting possibility right off the bat; you talk about the Pensylvania McLanes and operating on the tendency for children to be named for their parents, Samuel McLane who was in the Revolutionary army and can be found at this Web site; http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/military/1783phil02.txt Might be an ancestor, of course he would probably be grandfather to your guy. I was a little startled when I first searched the page thinking I had hit a plethora of Samuel McLanes, but it is just the roster for successive years. Interestingly he is listed as Captain, and second in command of his company until 1787 when he is just a soldier? If this guy is your ancestor tracking down the why of the bust in rank might be powerful interesting. Google doesn't seem to have any other clues, so lets try Ancestry.com; Have you seen this? * * * * * * * * Submitter: Herb McLane Subject: Berry-McLane Message: Am looking for anyone with info on Samuel Marcus McLane (b 3/3/1832 Fredericksburg, KY) and Josephine Amanda Berry (b 5/15/1846 Gentry Co, MO). Married on 12/10/1865 near Lyons OR. I am the great grandson of Samuel and Josephine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submitter: Herb McLane Subject: McLane Message: Samuel Marcus McLane and Josephine Amanda Berry McLane were married near Fox Valley OR. I'll have to get you the info I have but the Berry family came west on the Oregon Trail and we don't know how S.M. McLane traveled to Oregon. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submitter: Herb McLane Subject: Samuel Marcus McLane Message: I am the great-grandson of Samuel Marcus McLane who married Josephine Amanda Berry Dec 10, 1865 in Oregon, on the donation land claim of Francis and Pamela Berry near Lyons, Oregon. S.A.Berry was born 5/15 1846 Gentry County Missouri and S.M.McLane born 3/4/1832 near Fredericksburg, Kentucky. Any one know them? * * * * * * * * * * Unfortunately the most recent posting was in 2000 so chances are his email has changed if you haven't been in contact; http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.mclane/67 It is possible that the problem is you are looking for the wrong name, according to the index of the 1870 Census, he was calling himself McClure at that time. I searched all of the likely McLanes in the 1860 Kentucky Census, but there are 106 McClures and that is a bit much for me to tackle on my dial up. I will try and remember to take a shot at it when and if DSL comes through (been delayed by a phone co SNAFU) but for now I wonder if a name change might have something to do with it? 1870 > OREGON > LINN > SCIO PCT Series: M593 Roll: 1286 Page: 623 McClure Samuel 38 Farmer Kentucky Josephine 22 Keeping house Missouri Frances 4 Oregon George W. 1 Oregon There are a couple of Berry Households just down the page, but may or may not be kin. Frances is working as a servant on W Park St. in Portland in 1900, but I was unable to locate the rest of them, specifically no sign of Samuel that I could see. Do you know for sure when he passed away? I can hunt the rest of them down in 1900 if you want, but I doubt if it would help resolve his parentage. One thought I had was his first born son might be named for the father. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but I have a suspicion the name spelling in the 1870 Census 'might' be a clue. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM To: Oregon Group Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com Sun Jan 16 10:50:37 2005 From: glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com (Glen Jones) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:50:37 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Re: McClain References: Message-ID: Bob & Maxine I have a Fannie Pearl McClain in my family Came from Harrison Missouri married Harold Addison Wellington in Allen Neb. 1919. She was Born in 1896, they lived in St. Helens Or. Probably not the same McClain family but it might give you a couple of states to check on for McClain's. Glen A. Jones From nancydean at columbia-center.org Sun Jan 16 11:02:36 2005 From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:02:36 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Subject: [or-roots] Re: McClain References: Message-ID: <41EABA4C.000004.00801@MY FAMILY> Hi, I live in St. Helens, Columbia Co., Oregon. If I can be any help some how,.. please let me know. Nancy Lee Adams / from St. Helens, OR. nancydean at columbia-center.org -------Original Message------- From: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Date: 01/16/05 10:27:43 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Re: McClain Bob & Maxine I have a Fannie Pearl McClain in my family Came from Harrison Missouri married Harold Addison Wellington in Allen Neb. 1919. She was Born in 1896, they lived in St. Helens Or. Probably not the same McClain family but it might give you a couple of states to check on for McClain's. Glen A. Jones _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For information and an index to the more than 28,700 RootsWeb-hosted genealogy Mailing Lists and for easy subscribing (joining) options go to: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ NEW SURNAME MAILING LISTS MCCAIN-DNA -- Discussing McCAIN (surname) DNA projects; including alternate spellings of McKANE and O'KANE RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine 12 January December 2005, Vol. 8, No. 2, Circulation: 816,285+ (c) 1998-2005 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] I'm Stuck (still) Thanks guys for all the info. The Mclane I'm looking should have a birth day before 1832--most likely around 1800 plus or minus. One of the problems is that there are a number of spellings for Mclane e.g. McClain, Mcclaine, Mclean, etc. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- Bob I am assuming that you have found the 1880 Census with CoraBell living in Fox Valley, Oregon which is now called Lyons, Oregon. Also they have her father's name listed as Saul instead of Samuel. Some of the family is buried at Fox Valley Cemetery . Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [or-roots] I'm Stuck Leslie I've tried all the resources I can find. Can you help me? My Grandmother was Corabelle Mclane. Her father was Samuel Mark Mclane. He was born in KY (abt 1832) but lived in Oregon for a period and I believe he married Josephine Berry abt 1850 inOregon. My Problem is in finding his Father. I believe he is of the Pennsylvania Mclanes but can't find any good info. HELP??? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sun Jan 16 19:09:17 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:17 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] The Mclane caper Message-ID: <011720050309.28149.41EB2C5D0002BA9A00006DF52200737478CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Thanks to all of you who gave me info and ideas re; Mclane Clan. It sure helped and I'm up to Allen Mclane number 3 or 4. I have Allen Mclane b.abt 1719 in Lancaster PA. Thanks again Gang. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Sun Jan 16 22:20:57 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:20:57 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? Message-ID: Well folks did so good for Bob, I have a poser for you. I have these two families apparently in Oregon around 1860 and cannot find hide nor hair of either of them, I have searched based solely on place of birth, to hopefully rule out surname variation. Of course maybe they report different places of birth in different Censuses? I have tried several other tacks, and googled them to no avail. JAJ is particularly frustrating as I am sure he must have been in Oregon in 1860, I believe I have even eliminated the possibility that they still hadn't come west by then and still no luck? Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com James; . A. J. MCVAY Self M Male W 51 TN Butcher TN TN Lucinda G. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 MO Keeping House OH OH Ella MCVAY Dau S Female W 19 OR At Home TN MO Nathaniel MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School TN MO Asa MCVAY Son S Male W 13 CA At School TN MO Lilla MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 CA At School TN MO ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California Family History Library Film 1254065 NA Film Number T9-0065 Page Number 21D * * * * * * * * * John; Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace J. N. MCVAY Self M Male W 45 IA Farmer TN TN Martha J. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 TN Keeping House IA TN John N. MCVAY Son S Male W 19 CA Dairy Hand TN TN Daniel H. MCVAY Son S Male W 17 OR At School IA TN Harttey E. MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School IA TN Martha L. MCVAY Dau S Female W 14 OR At School IA TN James H. MCVAY Son S Male W 12 OR At School IA TN Elizabeth E. MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 OR At School IA TN Samuel MCVAY Son S Male W 8 OR At School IA TN Seward MCVAY Son S Male W 3 CA At Home IA TN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California Family History Library Film 1254065 NA Film Number T9-0065 Page Number 21D I do have both of them in 1870, John is in Empire City which is listed as being in Curry Co??? Oregon, and James is in Smith River California with a few dozen of my other cousins. What I am curious about, are they in fact brothers? And are any of the other McVays floating around Del Norte Co., Ca. in late 19th to early 20 century related? Except for the Canadians, most of them list Tennessee for place of birth of both parents, which makes me think there is a connection. Les C --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From CARROLLOUC at aol.com Sun Jan 16 23:22:21 2005 From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:22:21 EST Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? Message-ID: <8d.1e8312c8.2f1cc1ad@aol.com> Empire was indeed in Curry Co., OR from about 1858 until In 1964 it was consolidated with Coos Bay and as a seperate town no longer exists. The original post office was called Empire City and was once the county seat of Curry Co. Carroll (Cooper) Summers Well folks did so good for Bob, I have a poser for you. I have these two families apparently in Oregon around 1860 and cannot find hide nor hair of either of them, I have searched based solely on place of birth, to hopefully rule out surname variation. Of course maybe they report different places of birth in different Censuses? I have tried several other tacks, and googled them to no avail. JAJ is particularly frustrating as I am sure he must have been in Oregon in 1860, I believe I have even eliminated the possibility that they still hadn't come west by then and still no luck? Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com James; . A. J. MCVAY Self M Male W 51 TN Butcher TN TN Lucinda G. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 MO Keeping House OH OH Ella MCVAY Dau S Female W 19 OR At Home TN MO Nathaniel MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School TN MO Asa MCVAY Son S Male W 13 CA At School TN MO Lilla MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 CA At School TN MO ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California Family History Library Film 1254065 NA Film Number T9-0065 Page Number 21D * * * * * * * * * John; Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace J. N. MCVAY Self M Male W 45 IA Farmer TN TN Martha J. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 TN Keeping House IA TN John N. MCVAY Son S Male W 19 CA Dairy Hand TN TN Daniel H. MCVAY Son S Male W 17 OR At School IA TN Harttey E. MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School IA TN Martha L. MCVAY Dau S Female W 14 OR At School IA TN James H. MCVAY Son S Male W 12 OR At School IA TN Elizabeth E. MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 OR At School IA TN Samuel MCVAY Son S Male W 8 OR At School IA TN Seward MCVAY Son S Male W 3 CA At Home IA TN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California Family History Library Film 1254065 NA Film Number T9-0065 Page Number 21D I do have both of them in 1870, John is in Empire City which is listed as being in Curry Co??? Oregon, and James is in Smith River California with a few dozen of my other cousins. What I am curious about, are they in fact brothers? And are any of the other McVays floating around Del Norte Co., Ca. in late 19th to early 20 century related? Except for the Canadians, most of them list Tennessee for place of birth of both parents, which makes me think there is a connection. Les C --- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Mon Jan 17 06:31:26 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:31:26 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? References: Message-ID: <0e8b01c4fca1$3a401930$8657aa41@sue> So Les, what year is this census in Del Norte County? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? > Well folks did so good for Bob, I have a poser for you. I have these two > families apparently in Oregon around 1860 and cannot find hide nor hair of > either of them, I have searched based solely on place of birth, to hopefully > rule out surname variation. Of course maybe they report different places of > birth in different Censuses? I have tried several other tacks, and googled > them to no avail. JAJ is particularly frustrating as I am sure he must have > been in Oregon in 1860, I believe I have even eliminated the possibility > that they still hadn't come west by then and still no luck? > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > > James; > > . A. J. MCVAY Self M Male W 51 TN Butcher TN TN > Lucinda G. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 MO Keeping House OH > OH > Ella MCVAY Dau S Female W 19 OR At Home TN MO > Nathaniel MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School TN MO > Asa MCVAY Son S Male W 13 CA At School TN MO > Lilla MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 CA At School TN MO > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > Source Information: > Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California > Family History Library Film 1254065 > NA Film Number T9-0065 > Page Number 21D > > * * * * * * * * * > > John; > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > J. N. MCVAY Self M Male W 45 IA Farmer TN TN > Martha J. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 TN Keeping House IA TN > John N. MCVAY Son S Male W 19 CA Dairy Hand TN TN > Daniel H. MCVAY Son S Male W 17 OR At School IA TN > Harttey E. MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School IA TN > Martha L. MCVAY Dau S Female W 14 OR At School IA TN > James H. MCVAY Son S Male W 12 OR At School IA TN > Elizabeth E. MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 OR At School IA TN > Samuel MCVAY Son S Male W 8 OR At School IA TN > Seward MCVAY Son S Male W 3 CA At Home IA TN > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > Source Information: > Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California > Family History Library Film 1254065 > NA Film Number T9-0065 > Page Number 21D > > I do have both of them in 1870, John is in Empire City which is listed as > being in Curry Co??? Oregon, and James is in Smith River California with a > few dozen of my other cousins. > > What I am curious about, are they in fact brothers? And are any of the other > McVays floating around Del Norte Co., Ca. in late 19th to early 20 century > related? Except for the Canadians, most of them list Tennessee for place of > birth of both parents, which makes me think there is a connection. > > Les C > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > From khanjehgil at presys.com Mon Jan 17 07:46:50 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:46:50 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? In-Reply-To: <0e8b01c4fca1$3a401930$8657aa41@sue> Message-ID: Sorry; I always forget that that little detail doesn't show up, those are 1880 Censuses. These are taken from the LDS Family Search index, so have to be taken with a grain of salt, Harttey under JN is actually Hartley for instance, but in this case the transcription is quite good which means the images must be pretty fair. It just registered with me as I was keying these folks in that John is probably in California as that is where his first born is born. So I will have to hammer away at the California McVays some more in the 1860 Census. I never ceases to amaze me how many of my Crescent city Kin have spent time in Oregon and then gone back, must be a pretty good place to live to leave heavon on earth for it! LEs C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Sue Steward Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:31 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? So Les, what year is this census in Del Norte County? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? > Well folks did so good for Bob, I have a poser for you. I have these two > families apparently in Oregon around 1860 and cannot find hide nor hair of > either of them, I have searched based solely on place of birth, to hopefully > rule out surname variation. Of course maybe they report different places of > birth in different Censuses? I have tried several other tacks, and googled > them to no avail. JAJ is particularly frustrating as I am sure he must have > been in Oregon in 1860, I believe I have even eliminated the possibility > that they still hadn't come west by then and still no luck? > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > > James; > > . A. J. MCVAY Self M Male W 51 TN Butcher TN TN > Lucinda G. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 MO Keeping House OH > OH > Ella MCVAY Dau S Female W 19 OR At Home TN MO > Nathaniel MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School TN MO > Asa MCVAY Son S Male W 13 CA At School TN MO > Lilla MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 CA At School TN MO > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > Source Information: > Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California > Family History Library Film 1254065 > NA Film Number T9-0065 > Page Number 21D > > * * * * * * * * * > > John; > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > J. N. MCVAY Self M Male W 45 IA Farmer TN TN > Martha J. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 TN Keeping House IA TN > John N. MCVAY Son S Male W 19 CA Dairy Hand TN TN > Daniel H. MCVAY Son S Male W 17 OR At School IA TN > Harttey E. MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School IA TN > Martha L. MCVAY Dau S Female W 14 OR At School IA TN > James H. MCVAY Son S Male W 12 OR At School IA TN > Elizabeth E. MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 OR At School IA TN > Samuel MCVAY Son S Male W 8 OR At School IA TN > Seward MCVAY Son S Male W 3 CA At Home IA TN > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > Source Information: > Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California > Family History Library Film 1254065 > NA Film Number T9-0065 > Page Number 21D > > I do have both of them in 1870, John is in Empire City which is listed as > being in Curry Co??? Oregon, and James is in Smith River California with a > few dozen of my other cousins. > > What I am curious about, are they in fact brothers? And are any of the other > McVays floating around Del Norte Co., Ca. in late 19th to early 20 century > related? Except for the Canadians, most of them list Tennessee for place of > birth of both parents, which makes me think there is a connection. > > Les C > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From ssteward at ccountry.net Mon Jan 17 21:05:31 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:05:31 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? References: Message-ID: <101501c4fd1b$56255cd0$8657aa41@sue> About the right age for your John but it doesn't quite fit the census info. "Pioneer History of Coos and Curry Counties" Orville Dodge, Historian McVay, John was born in Ireland, June 23, 1833, and came to Curry Co., OR in 1870 and settled near Gold Beach. His wife's maiden name was Mary A. McCreery, born in Ireland in 1849. and they have four children. Mr McVay is a stone and brick mason, but has a ranch also. "Pistol river and Hunter's creek, south of Gold Beach, afford considerable bottom lands, which are fertile, but the whole country is more suitable for stock raising, than other purposes. ... The Cooleges and McVeys and others have excellent farms in this locality. ..." Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? > Sorry; I always forget that that little detail doesn't show up, those are > 1880 Censuses. These are taken from the LDS Family Search index, so have to > be taken with a grain of salt, Harttey under JN is actually Hartley for > instance, but in this case the transcription is quite good which means the > images must be pretty fair. > > It just registered with me as I was keying these folks in that John is > probably in California as that is where his first born is born. So I will > have to hammer away at the California McVays some more in the 1860 Census. I > never ceases to amaze me how many of my Crescent city Kin have spent time in > Oregon and then gone back, must be a pretty good place to live to leave > heavon on earth for it! > > LEs C > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Sue Steward > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:31 AM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? > > > So Les, what year is this census in Del Norte County? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie Chapman" > To: "Oregon List" > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:20 PM > Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays? > > > > Well folks did so good for Bob, I have a poser for you. I have these two > > families apparently in Oregon around 1860 and cannot find hide nor hair of > > either of them, I have searched based solely on place of birth, to > hopefully > > rule out surname variation. Of course maybe they report different places > of > > birth in different Censuses? I have tried several other tacks, and googled > > them to no avail. JAJ is particularly frustrating as I am sure he must > have > > been in Oregon in 1860, I believe I have even eliminated the possibility > > that they still hadn't come west by then and still no luck? > > > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > > > > James; > > > > . A. J. MCVAY Self M Male W 51 TN Butcher TN TN > > Lucinda G. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 MO Keeping House OH > > OH > > Ella MCVAY Dau S Female W 19 OR At Home TN MO > > Nathaniel MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School TN MO > > Asa MCVAY Son S Male W 13 CA At School TN MO > > Lilla MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 CA At School TN MO > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ---- > > Source Information: > > Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California > > Family History Library Film 1254065 > > NA Film Number T9-0065 > > Page Number 21D > > > > * * * * * * * * * > > > > John; > > > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation > > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > > J. N. MCVAY Self M Male W 45 IA Farmer TN TN > > Martha J. MCVAY Wife M Female W 37 TN Keeping House IA > TN > > John N. MCVAY Son S Male W 19 CA Dairy Hand TN TN > > Daniel H. MCVAY Son S Male W 17 OR At School IA TN > > Harttey E. MCVAY Son S Male W 16 OR At School IA TN > > Martha L. MCVAY Dau S Female W 14 OR At School IA TN > > James H. MCVAY Son S Male W 12 OR At School IA TN > > Elizabeth E. MCVAY Dau S Female W 10 OR At School IA TN > > Samuel MCVAY Son S Male W 8 OR At School IA TN > > Seward MCVAY Son S Male W 3 CA At Home IA TN > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ---- > > Source Information: > > Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California > > Family History Library Film 1254065 > > NA Film Number T9-0065 > > Page Number 21D > > > > I do have both of them in 1870, John is in Empire City which is listed as > > being in Curry Co??? Oregon, and James is in Smith River California with a > > few dozen of my other cousins. > > > > What I am curious about, are they in fact brothers? And are any of the > other > > McVays floating around Del Norte Co., Ca. in late 19th to early 20 century > > related? Except for the Canadians, most of them list Tennessee for place > of > > birth of both parents, which makes me think there is a connection. > > > > Les C > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > or-roots mailing list > > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > From jacqueswim at comcast.net Fri Jan 14 11:25:17 2005 From: jacqueswim at comcast.net (Jacque Coan) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:25:17 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Rupprath/Coan Famlies Message-ID: <004e01c4fa6e$c7c41700$0a00a8c0@Home> Hi I'm looking for any information on the following families: Joseph Rupprath Married to Eliza Was married to Mary Margaret. John Rupprath Married to Ruby Greenwald Otis Coan or Clayton Coan If you could steer me in the right direction or if you have any information I would appreciate it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Tue Jan 18 14:08:23 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:08:23 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Rupprath/Coan Famlies References: <004e01c4fa6e$c7c41700$0a00a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <117601c4fdaa$3aa78020$8657aa41@sue> Here are some things from the Oregon Death Index: Joseph Rupprath d. 25 Sep 1942 Multnomah County, Oregon Eliza Rupprath d. 24 March 1941 Portland County, Oregon Cert #991 Spouse: Joseph John Rupprath also listed in Social Security Death Index d. 7 Oct 1966 Columbia Co., Ore Cert #14371 B. 23 March 1891 Spouse: Edith Ruby B. Ruppath d. 11 Oct 1950 Portland Co., Ore Cert #11130 Spouse: John Christine Rupprath d. 2 July 1952 Portland County Certificate #8027 Spouse: John Edith T. Rupprath also listed in Soc Sec Death Index d. 13 Dec 1971 Columbia Co., Ore Cert #71-18481 Spouse: John Birth: Jan 1891 John Joseph Rupprath Jr. also listed in Soc Sec Death Index d. Deschutes County 19 April 1995 Cert # 95-08297 borh 17 March 1923 Clayton O. Coan also listed in Soc Sec Death Index d. 24 Oct 1984 Multnomah County Cert #84-18559 born 19 Aug 1909 Spouse: Grace Grace Coan listed in Soc Sec Death Index not in Oregon Death Index b. 11 Apr 1917 d. 7 Jan 1999 last residence: Beaverton, Oregon For deaths more than 50 years ago, copies of death certificate can be obtained from the Oregon State Archives for a few http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/reference.html For those listed on the Social Security Death Index you can get a copy of their original social security application from Soc Sec Admin for a fee which will usually give you their parent's names, date and place of birth. http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ In the SSDI, type name into search at this website, then when it brings up the name you can click on SS-5 letter and it will bring up the letter with info on the fee and where to mail it and you can just print that out on your computer. In Ancestry.com census indexes it lists Joseph in 1910, Lafrey PCT, Lincoln, WA; 1920 Portland, Multnomah, Ore; 1930 Sycamore, Multnomah, Oregon. Says he was born about 1856 in Germany. Another place it mentions a Josef Rupprath and Wilhelm Rupprath in Hessen Germany. There is a listing for a Joseph Rupprath in 1889-90 directory in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and in an 1890 Drectory in Spokane Falls, WA. Indicates Mary Margaret "unknown" Rupprath was born about 1882 and in 1910 census was in Espanola Twp, Spokane, WA In 1920 John Rupprath was in Almira, Lincoln Co., WA. In the 1930 census there is a John J and Grace Rupprath in Prescott, Columbia Co, Oregon says Grace was born about 1918 Good luck! Sue Spouse: Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacque Coan To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: [or-roots] Rupprath/Coan Famlies Hi I'm looking for any information on the following families: Joseph Rupprath Married to Eliza Was married to Mary Margaret. John Rupprath Married to Ruby Greenwald Otis Coan or Clayton Coan If you could steer me in the right direction or if you have any information I would appreciate it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Tue Jan 18 14:19:20 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:19:20 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] The MCLANE Line Message-ID: <011820052219.21762.41ED8B68000509D5000055022205889116CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> With a lot of help from my friends (thanks guys n gals) I think I have the Mclane line. After working back to my records and using the info ya'll gave me I came up with a supprise result! My Line of McLanes originated in Scotland ( Bute and Argyle) and moved into KENTUCKY! Nope not Pennsylvania ans I thought. Here is the Line as I have it now. Any comments? John Mclean b.abt 1662 in Jura, Argyll, Sctlnd Hugh Mclean b. abt 1700 Rothesay, Bute Sctlnd. Lachlane Mclean b. 1725 Rothesay ,Bute, Sclnd John Mclean b. 1743 Rothesay, Bute, Sctlnd Came to USA between1743 and1765 via Kentucky. Duncan Mclain b. bef. 1765 in Kentucky Isaac McClain b. abt 1770 in Nelson, Kentucky Samuel Mclane (McClain) b. abt 1800, Marion Co. Kentucky Samuel Mark McLane b. abt 1832 in Kentucky Cora Belle McLane b.June 6, 1878 near Lyons Oregon My GrandMother.--She married Prince William Goodman in Lyons Oregon--One of her sons (My Dad )was Duane C. Goodman b.1897 in Lyons Oregon. Any questions or comments? Boy are there lots of ways to spell McLane!! - Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerrysfawn at comcast.net Tue Jan 18 14:32:53 2005 From: jerrysfawn at comcast.net (Ann) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:32:53 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] The MCLANE Line References: <011820052219.21762.41ED8B68000509D5000055022205889116CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000901c4fdad$a6cabad0$6401a8c0@DESKTOP> Yep--one of the first rules in genealogy is name spelling varients....and vairent and varient. My maiden name BATZNER is like this. Not just the census takers either. RA Chesley...who has just connected to a distant German cousin by my 4th great grandmother Mueller. +++++++++++++++++ Boy are there lots of ways to spell McLane!! - Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Tue Jan 18 20:08:16 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:08:16 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] major foe paw Message-ID: Pardon my French; I was keying some of these folk I was asking about in and discovered I had made a BIG MISTAKE; I was assuming that ; Martha L. MCVAY Dau S Female W 14 OR At School IA TN Was the Laticia Martha McVay that a Janice Martinet had listed as wife of one of the McNamara's who is my second cousin one removed down there in Crescent City, but when I got to the birth date I realized that Nicholas McNamara's wife who is listed as 24 in 1920 was most likely NOT Martha L. who was 14 in 1880. I have seen drift of as much as ten years in peoples ages in Census info, but I would think that thirty years would be highly unlikely. My neice did have one cousin in Tennessee who only aged about five or six year in each of three or four successive Censuses. I would love to see HER obit. Meanwhile I have to figure out who Laticia Martha's parents are; it looks suspiciously like she will turn out to be a niece of Martha L. Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Wed Jan 19 16:18:54 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:18:54 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Names, they do Change Message-ID: <012020050018.25176.41EEF8ED00087B3B000062582200750784CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Leslie: Again thanks for your help. I've run into the "Name Game" on my mothers's side of our family. Her maiden name was Cora Belle DYE. When I tracked the Dye name back I found that through time the name changed. The first was DUYTZ as the family left Denmark, then came DEE, Then DAY, then DYE. In early times few people could read and /or write, and often people would dictate there messages to a writer . Depending on the period of the times and accent of the speaker the spelling and pronounciation the name could and did get changed. Just say DYE with a middle English accent and it comes out somethin close to DYE. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmml at navicom.com Wed Jan 19 17:46:10 2005 From: pmml at navicom.com (Marsha Bradley-Luthy) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:46:10 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing References: Message-ID: <011701c4fe91$d16310a0$3f04aa41@toshibauser> Weren't the Browns in Brown'sville with the Leepers? I forget ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: [or-roots] this, that and the other thing > First a big loud three cheers for Cheryl for all the effort she put in on > behalf of Erick! > > Then there is Bob's comment about going back over things. Amen! My biggest > problem is no matter how many times I go over it, I still find whole > folders > full of information that never got assimilated; as in when I get real hot > on > a lead and find lots of neat stuff such as old church records posted to > the > internet or some such that have lots of my ancestors, so I frantically > grab > and save these web pages with the idea of "entering it in my family file > later" and then don't have time to do so for a few weeks, which means of > course I forget I have it. I would bet I probably have at least twenty or > thirty ancestors or their in-laws hidden somewhere in my 'web pages saved' > directory or 'census' or 'census maybe' folders. > > That last one is especially intriguing as there are a lot of people in > there > that "look" like they could be relatives, but with names like John Brown > who > knows? > > I also was intrigued by the item from Nancy about the old photo album. I > know we have old albums lost from our family, that we would kill to get > back, but that wasn't one of them sadly. I wish Nancy luck and sure wish > somebody would claim one of the bibles I have. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.822 / Virus Database: 560 - Release Date: 12/22/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005 From glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com Thu Jan 20 08:14:31 2005 From: glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com (Glen Jones) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:14:31 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Names, they do Change References: <012020050018.25176.41EEF8ED00087B3B000062582200750784CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: Leslie, Bob and all you Oregon rooters. Name variations are something else, one of my Wife's relatives has a book out on the variations of the name Guernsey, she found over two hundred variations in the spelling of that name alone. Glen Jones Portland From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 20 13:57:56 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:57:56 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Rupprath/Coan Famlies References: <004e01c4fa6e$c7c41700$0a00a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <001701c4ff3b$1e74c920$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Jacque, Here are some results for a global search for Rupprath on ancestry.com. I'll send you the 37 family trees off line. Ronda Database: 1930 United States Federal Census January 20, 2005 1:35 PM Name Family Members Home in 1930 (City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation Carl Rupprath Antoinette Rupprath Chicago, Cook, IL abt 1883 Germany Head Antoinette Rupprath Carl Rupprath Chicago, Cook, IL abt 1884 Wife Hans Rupprath Carl Rupprath, Antoinette Rupprath Chicago, Cook, ILabt 1910 Son John Rupprath Ruby Rupprath Prescott, Columbia, OR abt 1891 Washington Head Ruby Rupprath John Rupprath Prescott, Columbia, OR abt 1894 Wife Grace J Rupprath John Rupprath, Ruby Rupprath Prescott, Columbia, OR abt 1918 Daughter John J Rupprath John Rupprath, Ruby Rupprath Prescott, Columbia, OR abt 1923 Son Joseph Rupprath Eliza J Rupprath Sycamore, Multnomah, OR abt 1856 Germany Head Eliza J Rupprath Joseph Rupprath Sycamore, Multnomah, OR abt 1864 Wife Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Indexed by Ancestry.com from microfilmed schedules of the 1930 U.S. Federal Decennial Census.1930 United States Federal Census. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. 1930 Federal Population Census. T626, 2,667 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. ---------------------------------- Database: 1920 United States Federal Census January 20, 2005 1:36 PM NameHome in 1920 (City,County,State)Estimated Birth YearBirthplaceRace Rupprath, Carl H Chicago, Cook, IL1883 Germany White Rupprath, Penhart Chicago, Cook, IL1886 Germany White Rupprath, Joseph W Portland, Multnomah, OR1855 Germany White Rupprath, John Almira, Lincoln, WA1891 Washington White Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1920 United States Federal Census. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001-. Indexed by Ancestry.com from microfilmed schedules of the 1920 U.S. Federal Decennial Census.1920 United States Federal Census. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. 1920 Federal Population Census. T625, 2,076 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. ---------------------------------- Database: 1910 United States Federal Census January 20, 2005 1:36 PM NameHome in 1910 (City,County,State)Estimated Birth YearBirthplaceRaceGender William Rupprath CARMEL, PUTNAM, NY 1867 White Male Joseph Rupprath LAFREY PCT, LINCOLN, WA 1855 White Male Margaret Rupprath ESPANOLA TWP, SPOKANE, WA 1881 White Female Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Indexed by ProQuest from microfilmed schedules of the 1910 U.S. Federal Decennial Census. Data imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. 1910 Federal Population Census. T624, 1,784 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. -------------------------------------------- Database: New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 January 20, 2005 1:38 PM NameArrival DateEstimated Birth YearGenderPort of DeparturePlace of OriginDestinationShip NameView Image Jos Rupprath 9 Sep 1881 1856 Male Bremen, Germany and Southampton, England Turingia,Germany New York,United States of America Neckar Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: New York. Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Micropublication M237. Rolls # 95-580. National Archives, Washington, D.C. ----------------------------------------------- Database: 1994 Phone and Address Directory January 20, 2005 1:39 PM NameAddressCityStatePhone Number BERNARD RUPPRATH 330 HOSBINE STFORT PIERCE FL (407) 461-4014 HANS RUPPRATH WASHINGTON IS WI (414) 847-2345 JOHN RUPPRATH 3631 SOUTH AVE WMISSOULA MT (406) 549-1238 SHARON L RUPPRATH 207 W 6TH STKEMAH TX (713) 334-3762 TOM RUPPRATH 4835 STONY FORD DRDALLAS TX (214) 248-2053 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Phone and Address Directory [database online]. Provo, UT: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2003. Original data: 1994 White Pages. Little Rock, AR: Acxiom Corporation, 19--. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacque Coan To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: [or-roots] Rupprath/Coan Famlies Hi I'm looking for any information on the following families: Joseph Rupprath Married to Eliza Was married to Mary Margaret. John Rupprath Married to Ruby Greenwald Otis Coan or Clayton Coan If you could steer me in the right direction or if you have any information I would appreciate it. From casebeer at jeffnet.org Thu Jan 20 22:51:36 2005 From: casebeer at jeffnet.org (Robert L Casebeer) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:51:36 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Names, they do Change References: <012020050018.25176.41EEF8ED00087B3B000062582200750784CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006501c4ff85$a7df9ec0$1a321c40@org.jeffnet.org> Name changes are real and in my family's case dramatic. The earliest record (a 3rd century tombstone in the Mosell valley) read Caseberiensus (a plural form). The earliest known German (16th century) was Kasebier, and over time the following spellings have derived: Casebeer (the most common in English) Casebier, Casbeer, Kazebeer, Casebere, Kasbeer, Caseberry, Causler, Kausler, Kaesebeer and some folk during the period of time (World War I) dropped the suffix and simply went by Case. Ah, name changes...Bob Casebeer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Jones" To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Names, they do Change > Leslie, Bob and all you Oregon rooters. > > Name variations are something else, one of my Wife's relatives has a book > out on the variations of the name Guernsey, she found over two hundred > variations in the spelling of that name alone. > Glen Jones Portland > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > From djbrtb at kci.net Fri Jan 21 08:18:50 2005 From: djbrtb at kci.net (D. J. Brotherton) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:18:50 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Names, they do Change References: <012020050018.25176.41EEF8ED00087B3B000062582200750784CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> <006501c4ff85$a7df9ec0$1a321c40@org.jeffnet.org> Message-ID: <000901c4ffd4$e56a11e0$dc47bb40@kci.net> I see all your name changes it is amazing how different they are - how does one research the name spellings. I have two names that I have difficulty going back beyond grandparents - Brotherton and Keyes. Is there a database or book that I could use? Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L Casebeer" To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Names, they do Change > Name changes are real and in my family's case dramatic. > The earliest record (a 3rd century tombstone in the Mosell valley) read > Caseberiensus (a plural form). The earliest known German (16th century) was > Kasebier, and over time the following spellings have derived: Casebeer (the > most common in English) Casebier, Casbeer, Kazebeer, > Casebere, Kasbeer, Caseberry, Causler, Kausler, Kaesebeer and some folk > during the period of time (World War I) dropped the suffix and simply went > by Case. Ah, name changes...Bob Casebeer > From khanjehgil at presys.com Fri Jan 21 07:46:00 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:46:00 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Names, they do Change In-Reply-To: <000901c4ffd4$e56a11e0$dc47bb40@kci.net> Message-ID: Dolores; I can think of three ways for you to come up with possibilities; the worst case most unreliable being my method described; >if you go; McC McL MacC MacL MucC MucL and then add ane ain aine oin oine and get this aire air are to each of those, you will come close. I do for a fact remember that McLair was one of the variants I saw for that surname, whether that holds true for YOUR line or not I can't say. But when searching the internet, and especially Census info it helps to keep all those in mind. I have found folks with surnames and given names whose spelling made absolutely no sense, I suspected the taker couldn't read his notes and was too lazy to go back and ask so he made it up. I have seen whole families listed with one birth place when mom and pop were born in differant states and the children were born in three different states. Either the note takein was poor, or the listening was poor one or the other.< What I described for McLane you could apply to Brotherton and Keys, but for a more formal look you could try going to Ancestry.com and searching on the surname by itself, somewhere you will see a check box that says exact spelling or soundex, click on soundex and you will get all the variations they have in their archives for that surname, you can also do the same thing for the 1880 Census at; http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc h_census.asp just make sure the "exact spelling" box at bottom of page is NOT checked and see what you get. If there are not a lot of folks in the 1880 Census with variations on the surname you may not get much, on the other hand you might be surprised. What you do have to keep in mind though, especially if you are using an online Census index the way I have been with Heritage quest, is that 'formal variations' may not cover all possibilities, I am not aware of Milven being listed anywhere as a variation on the surname Melvin except in the 1880 Gardiner Oregon Census where my great grandfather's next door neighbor didn't know how his name was spelled, I had to go through the Census page by page to find Milen Milven when I was looking for Milan Melvin and the LDS soundex wasn't astute enough to offer the former to me. My point before I wandered off on that diatribe about Mr. Reed, was that formal variations may not be enough; Keyes for example could be Ceez or Geez somewhere, not because that makes any sense, but because that might be as close as the person writing whatever info is relevant down could get it. As I commented to Bob, some of the stuff you find in Census pages can only make sense if you assume alcohol, drugs or supreme indifference to facts were involved, by the same token we still owe a tremendous debt to those intrepid souls who passed along all of that misinformation to us, for the good stuff the DID write down and even for the misinformation because often it will guide you to the answer you need. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of D. J. Brotherton Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:19 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Names, they do Change I see all your name changes it is amazing how different they are - how does one research the name spellings. I have two names that I have difficulty going back beyond grandparents - Brotherton and Keyes. Is there a database or book that I could use? Dolores --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From kurig at missionmill.org Tue Jan 18 13:56:30 2005 From: kurig at missionmill.org (Kuri Gill) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:56:30 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] FW: History Roundtable Promo Message-ID: <004301c4fda8$97072f20$1401a8c0@mmma> Kuri Gill Curator & Education Coordinator Mission Mill Museum (503) 585-7012 www.missionmill.org Mission Mill Museum is a non-profit organization. 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URL: From skipb at rcn.com Sat Jan 22 07:29:43 2005 From: skipb at rcn.com (Albert Belanger) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:29:43 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 In-Reply-To: <20050121190004.4BA6214C2E@sosinet.sos.state.or.us> Message-ID: <000001c50097$34fe2620$a3a4e904@PepesPC> Bonjour, I hesitate to barge in on you all, but am encouraged by the wealth of info that some of you have access to and are so generously willing to share with others seeking connections with Oregon kin. I have been trying for several years to sort out and connect, if possible, the two or three branches of the BLANCHARD families who were in Oregon , specifically in the 1840's through the 1890's. From khanjehgil at presys.com Sat Jan 22 07:34:53 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:34:53 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] 1928 Northern Cal Indian roster Message-ID: For those searching for Indian info from southern Oregon; http://www.indiancanyon.org/pics/census1928names/DN.Doug.Eld.Fresno.html is a partial listing of California Indians in Del Norte, Douglas, Eldorado and Fresno Counties, California 1928 The Costanoan-Ohlone Indian Canyon Resource. You might ask what this has to do with Oregon; I would point out (from personal experience) that for various reasons the tribes of southern Oregon and Northern California moved back and forth over the line and thus it is 'remotely' possible that relvant info would be found in this list. The most important part of the list is it gives a number to refer to BIA with to obtain a copy of the INDIVIDUAL ORIGINAL INTERVIEW (their emphasis) from said agency. Unfortunately it appears that like me and my cemetery project, these folks ran out of steam and never completedd the project. Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From whizinc at comcast.net Sat Jan 22 10:51:43 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:51:43 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 References: <000001c50097$34fe2620$a3a4e904@PepesPC> Message-ID: <001701c500b3$6aca0e60$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Albert, Here's what I found on Ancestry.com. Let me know what you'd like to see in more detail. Happy hunting! Ronda Database: 1860 United States Federal Census January 22, 2005 10:16 AM NameHome in 1860 (City,County,State) Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Gender F N Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 50 1809 Canada Male J P Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 40 1819 Vermont Male Rebecca J Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 32 1827 Ohio Female William Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 8 1851 Oregon Male Eva Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 6 1853 Oregon Female Ann Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 4 1855 Oregon Female Elizabeth Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 2 1857 Oregon Female Mary Blanchard Oregon City, Clackamas, OR 1 1858 Oregon Female Dean Blanchard Union, Columbia, OR 26 1833 Maine Male Henry Blanchard Ashland, Jackson, OR 20 1839 Wisconsin Male H G Blanchard Deer Creek, Josephine, OR 25 1834 England Male Albert Blanchard Walla Walla, Wasco, OR 25 1834 Canada Male Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States. 1860 United States Federal Census. M653, 1438 rolls. National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C. ----------------------------------------- Database: 1880 United States Federal Census January 22, 2005 Name Parents or spouse Home in 1880 (City,County,State) Est. Birth Year Birthplace Relation Elisabeth BLANCHARD J P BLANCHARD, Rebecka BLANCHARD Canemah, Clackamas, OR <1858> Oregon Daughter Emma J BLANCHARD J P BLANCHARD, Rebecka BLANCHARD Canemah, Clackamas, OR <1861> Oregon Daughter May BLANCHARD J P BLANCHARD, Rebecka BLANCHARD Canemah, Clackamas, OR <1860> Oregon Daughter Robert L. BLANCHARD William B. BLANCHARD, Sarah A. BLANCHARD Oregon City, Clackamas, OR <1858> Vermont Son Lewis BLANCHARD Astoria, Clatsop, OR <1854> FRANCE Something other than a direct relationship A. W. BLANCHARD Salem, Marion, OR <1855> Illinois Something other than a direct relationship Caleb BLANCHARD Parmel. BLANCHARD Cornelius, Washington, OR <1859> Wisconsin Son Marilla BLANCHARD Parmel. BLANCHARD Cornelius, Washington, OR <1861> Wisconsin Daughter Rachael BLANCHARD J. W. BLANCHARD Goldendale, Klickitat, WA <1859> Oregon Wife 1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ? Copyright 1999 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. All use is subject to the limited use license and other terms and conditions applicable to this site. Appreciation is expressed to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for providing the 1880 U.S. Census Index. ------------------------------------------------ U.S. House of Representative Private Claims, Vol. 1 Viewing record 1 of 1 match for: Blanchard in Oregon from 1850-1860 About this database Records of persons who sought benefits or compensation from the U.S. House of Representatives in the early nineteenth century. More information below Name Nature of Claim Congress Session Manner Brought Journal Page Referred to Committee Thomas Blanchard, (N. Y.) Protection of his patent right 31 1 Petition 258 Judiciary --------------------------------------------- Family Trees Name Birth Date Birthplace Father(F)/Mother(M) Spouse(s) Other Blanchard, Robert J. F:John Francis Blanchard M:Laura Belle Roberts Blanchard, Robert J. 27 AUG 1884 Church of England Philipsburg F:Orin DeWhite Blanchard M:Mary Jane Green S:Delvina Plante BLANCHARD, Joshua Pettingill 28 APR 1820 Montpelier, Washington Co., VT F: M: S:Rebecca Jane RACE Blanchard, Clodmire Hypolite Paschal 2 Oct 1850 Little Caillou, La F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celestine Boudreaux S:Odelia Pinel BLANCHARD, CLODOMIR HYPOLITE 27 OCT 1850 PETIT CAILLOU PARISH, HOUMA, LA F: M: S:ORDALIE OVILIA PINEL Blanchard, Clodomir Hypolite Pascal 27 OCT 1850 Little Caillou, La F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celeste Boudreaux S:Ordalie Ovillia Pinelle Blanchard, Clodomir Hypolite Paschal 27 OCT 1850 Petit Caillou, Houma, La. (Houma Ch.: v. 2, p. 38) F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celeste Boudreaux S:Ordalie Ovilia Pinel Blanchard, Clodomire Hypolite 27 OCT 1850 Little Caillou, Louisiana F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celestie Boudreaux S:Ordalie Ovilia Pinell Blanchard, Hypolite F: M: S:Marie-Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite F:Belloni Blanchard M:Marguerite Trahant S:Marie C Boudreaux BLANCHARD, Hypolite F:Jean Baptiste BLANCHARD M:Maria Modesta AUCOIN Blanchard, Hypolite F: M: S:Marie-Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite 00-1811 Terrebonne Par., La. F:Belonie Blanchard M:Marguerite "Aimee" Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite1805 PlattenVille, La F:Benony Marie Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite1805 Terrebonne Parish, LA F:Beloni Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT 1806 F: M: S:Marie Celestie Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT 1810 Terrebonne Parish, LA F:Belony Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite Abt 1810 Terrebonne Parish, La F:Benony Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT. 1810 Plattenville, Ascension, Louisiana F:Belloni Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT. 1810 Terrebonne, LA F:Benoni Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT. 1819 Plattensville, Ascension, Louisiana F:Belloni Jacques Blanchard M:Aimee Marguerite Trahan Blanchard, Hypolite BET 1792 AND 1818 F:Belonie-Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite-Amie Trahan Blanchard, Jean Hypolite 17 APR 1887 F:Clodomire Hypolite Blanchard M:Ordalie Ovilia Pinell S:Rosa Troxclair Blanchard, Clodmire Hypolite Paschal 2 Oct 1850 Little Caillou, La F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celestine Boudreaux S:Odelia Pinel BLANCHARD, CLODOMIR HYPOLITE 27 OCT 1850 PETIT CAILLOU PARISH, HOUMA, LA F: M: S:ORDALIE OVILIA PINEL Blanchard, Clodomir Hypolite Pascal 27 OCT 1850 Little Caillou, La F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celeste Boudreaux S:Ordalie Ovillia Pinelle Blanchard, Clodomir Hypolite Paschal 27 OCT 1850 Petit Caillou, Houma, La. (Houma Ch.: v. 2, p. 38) F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celeste Boudreaux S:Ordalie Ovilia Pinel Blanchard, Clodomire Hypolite 27 OCT 1850 Little Caillou, Louisiana F:Hypolite Blanchard M:Marie Celestie Boudreaux S:Ordalie Ovilia Pinell Blanchard, Hypolite F: M: S:Marie-Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite F:Belloni Blanchard M:Marguerite Trahant S:Marie C Boudreaux BLANCHARD, Hypolite F:Jean Baptiste BLANCHARD M:Maria Modesta AUCOIN Blanchard, Hypolite F: M: S:Marie-Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite 00-1811 Terrebonne Par., La. F:Belonie Blanchard M:Marguerite "Aimee" Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite1805 PlattenVille, La F:Benony Marie Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite1805 Terrebonne Parish, LA F:Beloni Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celestine Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT 1806 F: M: S:Marie Celestie Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT 1810 Terrebonne Parish, LA F:Belony Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite Abt 1810 Terrebonne Parish, La F:Benony Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Aimee Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT. 1810 Plattenville, Ascension, Louisiana F:Belloni Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT. 1810 Terrebonne, LA F:Benoni Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite Trahan S:Marie Celeste Boudreaux Blanchard, Hypolite ABT. 1819 Plattensville, Ascension, Louisiana F:Belloni Jacques Blanchard M:Aimee Marguerite Trahan Blanchard, Hypolite BET 1792 AND 1818 F:Belonie-Jacques Blanchard M:Marguerite-Amie Trahan Blanchard, Jean Hypolite 17 APR 1887 F:Clodomire Hypolite Blanchard M:Ordalie Ovilia Pinell S:Rosa Troxclair BLANCHARD, JEAN HYPOLITE 17 APR 1887 MONTEGUT, TERREBONNE PARIS, LA F:CLODOMIR HYPOLITE BLANCHARD M:ORDALIE OVILIA PINEL S:ROSA MARGUERITE TROSCLAIR Blanchard, Jean Hypolite 17 APR 1887 Montegut, Terrebonne Parish, LA F:Clodomir Hypolite Paschal Blanchard M:Ordalie Ovilia Pinel S:Rosa Marguerite Trosclair Blanchard, Jean Hypolite 17 Apr 1887 Montegut, La F:Clodmire Hypolite Paschal Blanchard M:Odelia Pinel S:Rose Trosclair BLANCHARD, Jean Hypolite 17 APR 1887 Montegut,Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana F: M: S:Rosa Marguerite "Rosie" TROSCLAIR Blanchard, Pierre Clodomir Hypolite 27 MAR 1870 Montegut, Terrebonne Parish, LA F:Amedee Blanchard M:Marie Pauline LeBlanc There were 852 family trees for Samuel Blanchard and 45 for Lucinda Blanchard. If you have the names for the mother, father or spouse I will send these too. For all these there is a family tree sent in by an individual. Some you can see have more information than others. They all have an email address as well. Let me know what you'd like to see in more detail. =) ----- Original Message ----- From: Albert Belanger To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 7:29 AM Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 Bonjour, I hesitate to barge in on you all, but am encouraged by the wealth of info that some of you have access to and are so generously willing to share with others seeking connections with Oregon kin. I have been trying for several years to sort out and connect, if possible, the two or three branches of the BLANCHARD families who were in Oregon , specifically in the 1840's through the 1890's. From skipb at rcn.com Sat Jan 22 14:04:14 2005 From: skipb at rcn.com (Albert Belanger) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:04:14 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 In-Reply-To: <001701c500b3$6aca0e60$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <001e01c500ce$536729e0$bda4e904@PepesPC> Bonjour, OH M'GOSH! What a response from Steve and Rhonda Howard!!! Thanks so much...I'll digest this census info, and if I succeed in getting it all organized by families, I'll post it to the list. If anyone out there is related to any of these folks, I'll be happy to hear from you. Most gratefully, Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Steve & Ronda Howard Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 1:52 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 Hi Albert, Here's what I found on Ancestry.com. Let me know what you'd like to see in more detail. Happy hunting! Ronda Database: 1860 United States Federal Census January 22, 2005 10:16 AM From evbarnes at earthlink.net Sat Jan 22 15:24:57 2005 From: evbarnes at earthlink.net (E V Barnes) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:24:57 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 References: <001e01c500ce$536729e0$bda4e904@PepesPC> Message-ID: <001d01c500d9$9681f650$6401a8c0@GENE> While the legend is disputed by some, Pierre Blanchard of Normandy may have been the ancestor of many of that surname in US. He mirgrated to England, and at least one of his may have gone to Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Belanger" To: ; "'Steve & Ronda Howard'" Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:04 PM Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 > Bonjour, > > OH M'GOSH! What a response from Steve and Rhonda Howard!!! Thanks so > much...I'll digest this census info, and if I succeed in getting it all > organized by families, I'll post it to the list. > > If anyone out there is related to any of these folks, I'll be happy to > hear from you. > > Most gratefully, > > Albert > > Albert Edward Belanger > 128 Middle Road > Brentwood, NH 03833 > > Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration > > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Steve & > Ronda Howard > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 1:52 PM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: Re: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 > > Hi Albert, > Here's what I found on Ancestry.com. Let me know what you'd like to see > in > more detail. > Happy hunting! > Ronda > > Database: 1860 United States Federal Census > January 22, 2005 > 10:16 AM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 22 15:47:25 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:47:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] unsubscribe Message-ID: <20050122234725.66629.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com> Unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Sat Jan 22 20:32:47 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:32:47 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter Message-ID: Someone asked about finding variations on names a day or two ago, while trying to locate 1850 Oregon Census I stumbled across this; http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter A limited response to the Blanchard question with a rant about "beware of the quality of online family trees" will follow. Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From LinLouVan at aol.com Sat Jan 22 20:40:39 2005 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:40:39 EST Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter Message-ID: Thank you, Les, for that URL. I don't know if I have seen it before, but it really is neat! Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Sat Jan 22 20:47:35 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:47:35 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD In-Reply-To: <000001c50097$34fe2620$a3a4e904@PepesPC> Message-ID: Albert; I don't find much joy in the 1860 and 1870 Census info; there is a J. P. Blanchard who shows up in both of those that may be Joseph; 1860 OR CLACKAMAS OREGON CITY PCT J. P. Blanchard 40 (or 44, unclear which) b. Vermont Rebecca J. 32 Ohio William 8 Oregon Eva 6 " Ann 4 " Elizabeth 2 " Mary 1 " The good news is I don't find any Blanchard's in the 1865 delinquent tax rolls. I also don't find any Blanchard's in the 1860 or 1870 Legislative roll. In 1860 Heritage quest lists Albert age 25 b. Canada, Dean age 26 b. Maine, F.N age 50 b. Can (fa of Albert? FN is in Clackamas co and Albert is in Wasco, which means they were a looong ways apart in 1860) H. G. age 25 b. England (Hypolite age eight when he came over trail??) Henry age 20 b. Wisconsin and JP. The closest thing to a cluster we have is JP and FN both in Clackamas co. In 1870 they have Chas age 56 b PA, D age 26 b Cana, Dean 36 b Maine, JA 54 b Ohio, JP again age 50, Sarah 37 NY, William 42 Ohio, Wm 35 VT. D and JA are both in Portland, Chas and Sarah are both in Baker, otherwise everybody is in a county of their own. Somewhere I have access to a listing of the 1850 Oregon Census which may have more info, but I am on my way to a Birthday party for a 93 year old aunt so am going to sign off here. I will try to get back to your problem again later, if somebody else doesn't have what you neeed by then. Les C. 1850 ORE Census from; http://gesswhoto.com/census.html BLANCHARD (see also Blanchford) BLANCHARD, John (Washington) BLANCHARD, Wm. (Yamhill) BLANCHETTE, F.N. (Clackamas) BLANCHFORD (see also Blanchard) BLANCHFORD, W.K. (Clatsop) Okay, while I was at the party I see Steve and Rhonda came up with a lot of the same info I have above, one thing I would note is that of the family trees that they found at Ancestry; a lot of them will be duplicates from the same submitter, hopefully Steve and Rhonda can sort out the 'wheat from the chaff' and not spend a lot of their time obtaining duplicate information. I usually won't bother with a family tree from ancestry unless it meets certain criteria, number one the individual(s) I am interested in must have some kind of realistic dates for at least birth and or death: beware of trees that list things like WFT estimates . . . . and that sort of thing, by the time WFT gets through with a few generations of that the dates can be off a century. I pretty much won't bother with anything from Rootsweb or Ancestry in terms of submitted family trees unless they site some hard sources. If all that is sited for sources are email addresses it means that they most likely have just pieced together other folks online family trees to suit their purposes. If they have Vital records, Census and bible sources and the like then they may be more reliable. The trick there is if they are getting their info from somebody like me it might be hard to judge what the value of the sources are; 2959. kim at schludecker.com, Wheeler Ephraim ancestor 450445, (Ancestry.com download), "Electronic," 21. 2960. Kathie (Wheeler) Lloyd, Wheeler from Kathie Lloyd, (email from above 9/8/01), "Electronic," 5. 2963. parts at d-and-h.com, Wheeler Rebecca ancesdescend 232402, (Ancestry.com download), "Electronic," 6. 2964. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM), (June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998), "Electronic." 2965. Melvin2.FTW, (LDS download from IGI), "Electronic," Date of Import: Apr 18, 2001. this is a partial list of sources in one of my genealogy reports and first of all the sheer number of sources might be inclining you to think "this guy does great stuff" and they all look very officious. Ironically the only one I really trust is 2960, because I know she has a lot of 'original source' information in her family tree in what she has shared with me. I am a little fuzzy whether she herself did the digging or she got her information from the Wheeler Genealogy in America best source, but the point is the other sources are family files I keyed information into my family file from and a lot of those files that listed absolutely no sources listed. I didn't learn how important sources were until I started getting a significan number of folks in my tree from diverse sources and finding that a lot of them were in total disagreement on places, names and dates, and that some of them contained individuals that other folks claimed never existed. Even so, as I mentiond in my 'foe paw' posting a few days back, folks that use 'original sources' can still mess up if they don't pay close attention. I currently have a family group in my file that I cannot conclusively link to the person I have tried to link them to. I have a Samuel McVay son of John b. Indiana and Martha b. Tennessee in my family tree from when I tried to marry his sister Martha L off as Leticia Martha to Nicholas Francis McNamara only to discover that Martha L was about 40 years too old to be Leticia. In 1900 I find a Samuel McVay with a daughter whose name 'seems' to be Tecia age 5 which would make her about right age to be Laticia living in Del Norte Co Cal which is where Laticia marries Nicholas, and Sam's folks are listed with appropriate birth places by him. Biggest fly in the ointment is his age is off by two years, but I can live with that, but before I put him in I would like a more positive link between the facts. Like Samuel and wife with Laticia spelled out and another one of John's kids or even better yet Mom or Pop in the house with them. Unfortunately after 1880 Samuel is the only member of the clan I am at all sure of. I think I have Daniel his bro in another town in 1900, except parents place of birth and his place of birth are scrambled. Back to my point; I don't entirely dismiss other people's work as it is posted on the internet, for one thing I believe very few folk are posting bogus info with bad intent, they are either sloppy like me, or not versed with the protocols of "proper genealogy" but be aware of what you are getting. I freely share my info, and I have it pretty heavily sourced and I always tell folks I share with, check my sources, if you don't see an original source, and some of these can be electronic if they are vital records or some such that I have found online, you have to be aware that the information may not be worth the pixels it's made of because I don't "PROVE" every fact I put in MY family tree. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Albert Belanger Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 7:30 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 Bonjour, I hesitate to barge in on you all, but am encouraged by the wealth of info that some of you have access to and are so generously willing to share with others seeking connections with Oregon kin. I have been trying for several years to sort out and connect, if possible, the two or three branches of the BLANCHARD families who were in Oregon , specifically in the 1840's through the 1890's. From khanjehgil at presys.com Sat Jan 22 21:13:15 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:13:15 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Your welcome Linda, unfortunately I have dozens of neat little things like that on my puter that I have no idea are there unless I stumble across them, I guess I need to figure out a way to google my puter. Some of the neat little things I have are no longer available from the internet, or have been moved to places I can't find them, and if I don't remember that they exist, I can't share them with folks. I thought I had googled 'soundes converter' the other night when the subject came up, but guess I didn't. I also just remembered another neat site that I can no longer find and unfortunately what I had saved on my puter got corrupted and is no longer useful, but it was pages of info for interpreting old style writing. I know I probably bug some folks with my stream of conscious (unconciousness?) postings, but sometimes i jar loose a factoid that helps somebody that would have remained buried if I kept it "businesslike" and concise and all of that. Often times newbies don't realize what an infinite genealogy resource the internet is, I have been at this for about six years now and have accumulated about 9500 people in my family tree, 7 or 8 thousand of whom are actual 'kin' and virtually all of whom are only one or two degrees seperated from 'kin' I have spent maybe a hundred dollars on books and copies from distant sources, another hundred or so making copies of stuff at Coos and Douglas County courthouses, and the rest of my info has just cost me time. My family feels I am obsessed, but I do sleep and work and sometimes even go to family functions. But I have probably just about enough stuff on my computer and in my archives to fill a DVD, I got past one CD a couple years ago at least. So I really try to discourage folks from going the Ancestry.com subscription, or buy $100 CD's route until they are sure they have exhausted the internet. But maybe I am just lucky to have found so much stuff online. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:41 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter Thank you, Les, for that URL. I don't know if I have seen it before, but it really is neat! Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From SwimRef34 at aol.com Sat Jan 22 21:43:50 2005 From: SwimRef34 at aol.com (SwimRef34 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:43:50 EST Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Message-ID: <1b8.b2bc65f.2f249396@aol.com> F.N. Blanchet and his brother A.M.A. Blanchet across the river in Vancouver will not be much help to you, they were the Catholic bishops. As a much younger man F.N. Blanchet chaired the early "wolf meetings" at Champoeg prior to the provisional government. From khanjehgil at presys.com Sat Jan 22 22:40:21 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:40:21 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups Message-ID: I probably have offered this before without finding anything, but just ran across the following book on Heritage Quest and am willing to look folks up there, it is indexed for at least Umatilla and Morrow county and has some interesting bios, just read one on a McVay I didn't need. Parsons, William, An illustrated history of Umatilla County Spokane, Wash.: W.H. Lever, 1902, 650 pgs. Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From ssteward at ccountry.net Sat Jan 22 23:18:34 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:18:34 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter References: Message-ID: <002701c5011b$c0a746a0$a157aa41@sue> Les, I read something recently that you could download free from google.com something to do a search on your own computer. I haven't checked it out yet but it might be a good idea. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter > Your welcome Linda, unfortunately I have dozens of neat little things like > that on my puter that I have no idea are there unless I stumble across them, > I guess I need to figure out a way to google my puter. Some of the neat > little things I have are no longer available from the internet, or have been > moved to places I can't find them, and if I don't remember that they exist, > I can't share them with folks. I thought I had googled 'soundes converter' > the other night when the subject came up, but guess I didn't. I also just > remembered another neat site that I can no longer find and unfortunately > what I had saved on my puter got corrupted and is no longer useful, but it > was pages of info for interpreting old style writing. > > I know I probably bug some folks with my stream of conscious > (unconciousness?) postings, but sometimes i jar loose a factoid that helps > somebody that would have remained buried if I kept it "businesslike" and > concise and all of that. > > Often times newbies don't realize what an infinite genealogy resource the > internet is, I have been at this for about six years now and have > accumulated about 9500 people in my family tree, 7 or 8 thousand of whom are > actual 'kin' and virtually all of whom are only one or two degrees seperated > from 'kin' I have spent maybe a hundred dollars on books and copies from > distant sources, another hundred or so making copies of stuff at Coos and > Douglas County courthouses, and the rest of my info has just cost me time. > My family feels I am obsessed, but I do sleep and work and sometimes even go > to family functions. > > But I have probably just about enough stuff on my computer and in my > archives to fill a DVD, I got past one CD a couple years ago at least. So I > really try to discourage folks from going the Ancestry.com subscription, or > buy $100 CD's route until they are sure they have exhausted the internet. > But maybe I am just lucky to have found so much stuff online. > > Les C > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of > LinLouVan at aol.com > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:41 PM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter > > > Thank you, Les, for that URL. > I don't know if I have seen it before, but it really is neat! > > Linda VanOrden > Junction City, OR > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sun Jan 23 10:17:04 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:17:04 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups (goodman) Message-ID: <012320051817.29499.41F3EA20000DAD000000733B2205886442CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Leslie: my gggrandfather was Joseph P. Goodman b. abt 1819 in IN., d. abt 1850 in Umatilla, OR. ( He married Elizabeth Stutzman) Does your List have any thing about him? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- > I probably have offered this before without finding anything, but just ran > across the following book on Heritage Quest and am willing to look folks up > there, it is indexed for at least Umatilla and Morrow county and has some > interesting bios, just read one on a McVay I didn't need. > > Parsons, William, > An illustrated history of Umatilla County > Spokane, Wash.: W.H. Lever, 1902, 650 pgs. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skipb at rcn.com Sun Jan 23 11:19:40 2005 From: skipb at rcn.com (Albert Belanger) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:19:40 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] RE: BLANCHARD Families in Oregon : 1840 -1900 Message-ID: <004301c50180$7ee67000$fb95e904@PepesPC> I can't seem to contact Rhonda at her address < whizinc at comcast.net > so I am taking the liberty to send this to the list... Bonjour, Rhonda, What I most would like to find out at the present: 1.) the ancestry of William B. BLANCHARD (Spouse of Sara A. and Father of Robert Leonard BLANCHARD..Robert L. was b. in Vermont c.1858 and married May BLANCHARD - no relation identified. I have the ancestry of MAY). William was probably born in Vermont, also 2.) the ancestries of the following: (a.) the Mrs. Lucinda BLANCHARD , who it appears was on the Trail in 1851 and perhaps the person who was identified in a Trail journal as going to join her husband - that would make her probably around 20 years old or so having been born about 1830). (b.) her husband's BLANCHARD ancestry. 3.) the ancestry of the SAMUEL BLANCHARD who was on the Trail in 1851. You wrote that there were 852 Family Trees for that name. I don't know how you can search through that list, but he would have been born at least not after 1851. That's all I know... We are in the midst of a major blizzard right now.even the churches are closed! Your Servant &c., Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration From evbarnes at earthlink.net Sun Jan 23 11:50:51 2005 From: evbarnes at earthlink.net (E V Barnes) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:50:51 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter References: <002701c5011b$c0a746a0$a157aa41@sue> Message-ID: <00e501c50184$d80b0980$6401a8c0@GENE> Yes - They do have a soundex converter. If you use it make a record in a notebook - it really helps when you are looking in the Fed. Census at their buildings. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Steward" To: Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter > Les, I read something recently that you could download free from > google.com > something to do a search on your own computer. I haven't checked it out > yet > but it might be a good idea. > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leslie Chapman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:13 PM > Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter > > >> Your welcome Linda, unfortunately I have dozens of neat little things >> like >> that on my puter that I have no idea are there unless I stumble across > them, >> I guess I need to figure out a way to google my puter. Some of the neat >> little things I have are no longer available from the internet, or have > been >> moved to places I can't find them, and if I don't remember that they > exist, >> I can't share them with folks. I thought I had googled 'soundes >> converter' >> the other night when the subject came up, but guess I didn't. I also just >> remembered another neat site that I can no longer find and unfortunately >> what I had saved on my puter got corrupted and is no longer useful, but >> it >> was pages of info for interpreting old style writing. >> >> I know I probably bug some folks with my stream of conscious >> (unconciousness?) postings, but sometimes i jar loose a factoid that >> helps >> somebody that would have remained buried if I kept it "businesslike" and >> concise and all of that. >> >> Often times newbies don't realize what an infinite genealogy resource the >> internet is, I have been at this for about six years now and have >> accumulated about 9500 people in my family tree, 7 or 8 thousand of whom > are >> actual 'kin' and virtually all of whom are only one or two degrees > seperated >> from 'kin' I have spent maybe a hundred dollars on books and copies from >> distant sources, another hundred or so making copies of stuff at Coos and >> Douglas County courthouses, and the rest of my info has just cost me >> time. >> My family feels I am obsessed, but I do sleep and work and sometimes even > go >> to family functions. >> >> But I have probably just about enough stuff on my computer and in my >> archives to fill a DVD, I got past one CD a couple years ago at least. So > I >> really try to discourage folks from going the Ancestry.com subscription, > or >> buy $100 CD's route until they are sure they have exhausted the internet. >> But maybe I am just lucky to have found so much stuff online. >> >> Les C >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >> [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of >> LinLouVan at aol.com >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:41 PM >> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >> Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter >> >> >> Thank you, Les, for that URL. >> I don't know if I have seen it before, but it really is neat! >> >> Linda VanOrden >> Junction City, OR >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >> http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > From whizinc at comcast.net Sun Jan 23 13:41:09 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:41:09 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups References: Message-ID: <004c01c50194$41040fe0$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Les, Is there any mention of Barretts or Howards in the Umatilla book? Thanks! Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups >I probably have offered this before without finding anything, but just ran > across the following book on Heritage Quest and am willing to look folks > up > there, it is indexed for at least Umatilla and Morrow county and has some > interesting bios, just read one on a McVay I didn't need. > > Parsons, William, > An illustrated history of Umatilla County > Spokane, Wash.: W.H. Lever, 1902, 650 pgs. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From bfain at thegrid.net Sun Jan 23 14:24:33 2005 From: bfain at thegrid.net (Babe Fain) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:24:33 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups References: <004c01c50194$41040fe0$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <002a01c5019a$52822760$f701bb3f@Fain> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve & Ronda Howard" To: Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups Hi Les, Is there any mention of Barretts or Howards in the Umatilla book? Thanks! Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:40 PM Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups >I probably have offered this before without finding anything, but just ran > across the following book on Heritage Quest and am willing to look folks > up > there, it is indexed for at least Umatilla and Morrow county and has some > interesting bios, just read one on a McVay I didn't need. > > Parsons, William, > An illustrated history of Umatilla County > Spokane, Wash.: W.H. Lever, 1902, 650 pgs. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com Sun Jan 23 15:28:49 2005 From: glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com (Glen Jones) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:28:49 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla lookups References: <004c01c50194$41040fe0$0300a8c0@Home> <002a01c5019a$52822760$f701bb3f@Fain> Message-ID: Hi Les Did you happen to find more then one book, I would love to get one. Would like to know if you have any Robie's, Craig's, in the book also Hank Vaughn, Eastern Oregon's infamous outlaw as he is my Great Grandfather by Marriage. Glen Jones Portland, Oregon From JudyRobertson39 at aol.com Sun Jan 23 19:07:03 2005 From: JudyRobertson39 at aol.com (JudyRobertson39 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:07:03 EST Subject: [or-roots] Re: McClain Message-ID: <142.3dd46cdc.2f25c057@aol.com> Website address for Wallowa County AGHP please? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Sun Jan 23 21:59:07 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:59:07 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla Lookups Message-ID: OK; first off folks I do not have the book, I have access to it online in digital format from Heritage Quest, for those of you with kin with photos in the book, it might be worth your while to try and find a copy of it online or from a Historical Society as the digital version photos are pretty poor, too much contrast mostly. Now I am going to be lazy an lump the answers; Barrett, CA a distinguished looking fellow from his picture, but like I said, too much contrast everything to the left of his nose is black in the photo. C.A. Barrett. Among the representative business men anda s one of the leading citizens of KUmatilla county stands the man whose name initiates this paragraph and whose life of excellent achievement in the commercial realms of eastern Oregon has been worthy of emulation, whiles his unsullied reputation and intrinsic moral worth are quite commensurate therewith , having displayed characteristic uperightness and maintained a high honor throughout his long careeer in this county. He was born in Oxford county , Maine on June 21, 1852 to J. S. and Elizabeth m. (Barrows) Barrett, nathive also of the Pine Tree State. His educational training was received in his native place except two years of service in the shoe shops of Massachusetts, following which, in 1872, he crossed the plains to California, then came to Weston, Umatilla county. Here he engaged for wages with John Adams in the wool growing and the horse busines, continuing there until he acquired sufficient funds to embardk on the same business for himself. In the spring of 1883 he sold his sheep, retaining his horse business, and took up the hardware and implement business, and to the successful prosecutation of this he has devoted himself continuously since, having at the present time a larghe and lucrative patronage, which is fully merited by his careful business methods and watchfulness for the intgerests of his customers and strict honesty in all his dealings.In addition to his handsome Athenea property he has two thousand acres of land, one half pasture and timber land the balance farmed to wheat. He is also one of the incorporators of the First Natioanl Bank of Athena, in which town his business is carried on, and on the organizaion of this bank he was elected its first president, and held that office two terms and is at the present time director of the same. He is one of the incorporators of the Athena Flouring Mill Company and has been either president or vice-president of the company since its inception, and is now one of its directors. Twice have the people called him to act as chief executive of his home city, and he has frequently served as councilman, ever bringing to bear the same wisdom and faithfulness that are characterisic of him in all his private operations. He ahs also freely given his time and talent to the advancement of the interests of the schools of the town by acting as director. Fraternally he is associated with the W. of W. and the K. of P and the K.O.T.M. In this county in November, 1877, the marriage of Mr. Barrett and Mis Jennie E,. Mays was solemnized and to them have been born two children, Areta and Henry. A. the latter being in the store with his father and holding the postition of secretary of the ocmpany. Mrr Barrett is one of the most substantial business men of the entire section and has so demeaned himself that he has won and retains the confidence and esteem of the entire community. Wowf, I forgot what a pain lengthy transcriptions are. Folks, I am to tire and lazy to do this tonight, I will past images of these pages in off list and send them to the relevant folks. I was very disappointted not to find Glen's outlaw ancestor in the book, but will keep looking. Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From bobg at bmi.net Mon Jan 24 03:30:01 2005 From: bobg at bmi.net (Bob Gilliland) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:30:01 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla Lookups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c50208$0b9a9080$0500a8c0@domain.actdsltmp> I have a copy of the book being discussed, An Illustrated History of Umatilla and Morrow County. It is available in digital form from the Godfrey Memorial Library which was mentioned several weeks ago on this list. Membership to the library is $35 a year. You can check it out at www.godfrey.org. You will be restricted from the commercial databases until you become a member but you can get a good look at the site. I have several family members listed in the book. When I did a search on one character, the search engine took me to the bio for his son-in-law because he was mentioned there. It did not direct me to his own bio. But the book index gave me the page number of his bio and I went directly to it from there. If there is a photo with the article and the quality is poor, let me know off list and I can send you a digital photo taken from the original. By the way, a "copy" of the book is available for only $215, but the photos are not very good there either. One thing to always remember about these "vanity books". The individual only includes in his bio what he wanted people to know. The character above was tried in Denver in 1874-75 for murder and was acquitted. According to his bio he was never close to Denver, or even Colorado. Bob Gilliland bobg at bmi.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 From coollugan at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 24 07:27:07 2005 From: coollugan at sbcglobal.net (Erick G Olofsson) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:27:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] UNsubscribe Message-ID: <20050124152707.10543.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com> Unsuscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whizinc at comcast.net Mon Jan 24 08:23:34 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:23:34 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla Lookups References: Message-ID: <002b01c50231$0d6d7f20$0300a8c0@Home> Thanks Les, I appreciate the article very much. What glowing articles they wrote about themselves. =) Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla Lookups > OK; first off folks I do not have the book, I have access to it online in > digital format from Heritage Quest, for those of you with kin with photos > in > the book, it might be worth your while to try and find a copy of it online > or from a Historical Society as the digital version photos are pretty > poor, > too much contrast mostly. > > Now I am going to be lazy an lump the answers; > > Barrett, CA > a distinguished looking fellow from his picture, but like I said, too much > contrast everything to the left of his nose is black in the photo. > > C.A. Barrett. Among the representative business men anda s one of the > leading citizens of KUmatilla county stands the man whose name initiates > this paragraph and whose life of excellent achievement in the commercial > realms of eastern Oregon has been worthy of emulation, whiles his > unsullied > reputation and intrinsic moral worth are quite commensurate therewith , > having displayed characteristic uperightness and maintained a high honor > throughout his long careeer in this county. > He was born in Oxford county , Maine on June 21, 1852 to J. S. and > Elizabeth > m. (Barrows) Barrett, nathive also of the Pine Tree State. His educational > training was received in his native place except two years of service in > the > shoe shops of Massachusetts, following which, in 1872, he crossed the > plains > to California, then came to Weston, Umatilla county. Here he engaged for > wages with John Adams in the wool growing and the horse busines, > continuing > there until he acquired sufficient funds to embardk on the same business > for > himself. In the spring of 1883 he sold his sheep, retaining his horse > business, and took up the hardware and implement business, and to the > successful prosecutation of this he has devoted himself continuously > since, > having at the present time a larghe and lucrative patronage, which is > fully > merited by his careful business methods and watchfulness for the > intgerests > of his customers and strict honesty in all his dealings.In addition to his > handsome Athenea property he has two thousand acres of land, one half > pasture and timber land the balance farmed to wheat. He is also one of the > incorporators of the First Natioanl Bank of Athena, in which town his > business is carried on, and on the organizaion of this bank he was elected > its first president, and held that office two terms and is at the present > time director of the same. He is one of the incorporators of the Athena > Flouring Mill Company and has been either president or vice-president of > the > company since its inception, and is now one of its directors. Twice have > the > people called him to act as chief executive of his home city, and he has > frequently served as councilman, ever bringing to bear the same wisdom and > faithfulness that are characterisic of him in all his private operations. > He ahs also freely given his time and talent to the advancement of the > interests of the schools of the town by acting as director. Fraternally he > is associated with the W. of W. and the K. of P and the K.O.T.M. > In this county in November, 1877, the marriage of Mr. Barrett and Mis > Jennie > E,. Mays was solemnized and to them have been born two children, Areta and > Henry. A. the latter being in the store with his father and holding the > postition of secretary of the ocmpany. Mrr Barrett is one of the most > substantial business men of the entire section and has so demeaned himself > that he has won and retains the confidence and esteem of the entire > community. > > Wowf, I forgot what a pain lengthy transcriptions are. > > Folks, I am to tire and lazy to do this tonight, I will past images of > these > pages in off list and send them to the relevant folks. I was very > disappointted not to find Glen's outlaw ancestor in the book, but will > keep > looking. > > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com Mon Jan 24 09:14:57 2005 From: glenjoneskc7mbm at msn.com (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:14:57 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Umatilla Lookups References: Message-ID: Thank You Les I realized that you got it online after I sent my message. I have access to Genealogy.com and thru a friend to Ancestry. I did do a search for the book on bookfinder and found it $215 dollars like several books I want it is spendy. Thank You again Glen Jones From skipb at rcn.com Mon Jan 24 13:09:14 2005 From: skipb at rcn.com (Albert Belanger) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:09:14 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD In-Reply-To: <20050123200102.0CEC514C25@sosinet.sos.state.or.us> Message-ID: <000001c50259$03776b70$c695e904@PepesPC> Bonjour, I can't seem to send a message just out to Les...it gets bounced back with the message: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: khanjegil at presys.com SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:: host s3.mail.pciwest.net [64.5.1.201]: 553 sorry, this recipient is in my badrecipientto list (#5.7.1)" I don't know if it is some default set in this new computer of mine or what, so I'll have to send it to him through the list... Albert Bonjour, Les, Thanks for the long response. I wholeheartedly agree that one must be ever vigilant about the authenticity of other's research, but sometimes a clue to the truth lies even therein. And so, I wonder if you would be kind enough to let me know the email address of the Kathie Lloyd with whom you mentioned as having corresponded : #2960. I have the Joshua Pettingill BLANCHARD line of my wife's back to 1637. See my page at < http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/e/l/Albert-E-Belanger/ > Basically, I was trying to see if the Lucinda and the Samuel and the Robert J. who were on the Trail that year (but do not appear in the direct line), also, were related, and if there were other BLANCHARD relatives who made the trek earlier or later. Thanks for taking an interest in my project. Do you have Oregon Trail ancestors? Your Humble Servant, &c., Albert (digging out from the Blizzard of 2005) Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration From khanjehgil at presys.com Tue Jan 25 22:51:33 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:51:33 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] messages to les bounce etc. In-Reply-To: <000001c50259$03776b70$c695e904@PepesPC> Message-ID: Albert; What is happening is somebody has a virus on their computer that is spoofing my email address and sending it through your ISP, so your ISP virus protection is assuming I am sending the virus (I don't think so, I have had a current version of Norton on my puter for 3 or four years and now also double check with AVG) and they have blacklisted me from being allowed to send and receive email. At least that is how I would interpret this problem, feel free to ask what you want in the Or-roots list, if I need to respond to it off list I bet I can get through to you still. As to Kathie Lloyd, I doubt that she wouls be of any use to you in your Blanchard quest, as her ancestry is pretty much all Northeastern US old family stuff, her line and mine diverged about 1669 when Sarah Wheeler married John Smedley. I actually don't even have a current email address for Kathy as her life went through a lot of changes a couple of years ago and last time I tried to contact her, the addy I had was no longer valid. Unfortuntely if she ever tries to get ahold of me the address she has will probably no longer be valid as I expect to change my addy shortly. I'm afraid I have pretty much exhausted my resources for finding stuff for you unless I can did something up in Heritage quest books which I will try shortly. As to my Oregon trail ancestors, that is a definite maybe, I don't know for sure if the Melvin clan came on the Oregon trail or a more southerly route. I just know they are in NorCal by about 1850, along with the Tacks who may have come around the Horn, big mystery there, we know some of their furniture did because it still has the shipping info on it, but nobody seems to know if they shipped stuff seperate or brought it with. My dad's side were johnny come latelys, have only been in Oregon about 100 years and came by steam train. My maternal grandfather jumped ship from a british merchant man in San Francisco around 1870 or 80 and came directly to Oregon. I;ll bet gack to you if I find anybody on Heritage quest. Les C -----Original Message----- From: Albert Belanger Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: [or-roots] BLANCHARD Bonjour, I can't seem to send a message just out to Les...it gets bounced back with the message: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: khanjegil at presys.com SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:: host s3.mail.pciwest.net [64.5.1.201]: 553 sorry, this recipient is in my badrecipientto list (#5.7.1)" I don't know if it is some default set in this new computer of mine or what, so I'll have to send it to him through the list... Albert Bonjour, Les, Thanks for the long response. I wholeheartedly agree that one must be ever vigilant about the authenticity of other's research, but sometimes a clue to the truth lies even therein. And so, I wonder if you would be kind enough to let me know the email address of the Kathie Lloyd with whom you mentioned as having corresponded : #2960. I have the Joshua Pettingill BLANCHARD line of my wife's back to 1637. See my page at < http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/e/l/Albert-E-Belanger/ > Basically, I was trying to see if the Lucinda and the Samuel and the Robert J. who were on the Trail that year (but do not appear in the direct line), also, were related, and if there were other BLANCHARD relatives who made the trek earlier or later. Thanks for taking an interest in my project. Do you have Oregon Trail ancestors? Your Humble Servant, &c., Albert (digging out from the Blizzard of 2005) Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration+ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From skipb at rcn.com Wed Jan 26 12:59:52 2005 From: skipb at rcn.com (Albert Belanger) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:59:52 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] messages to les bounce etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c503e9$fd0c9250$c2aae904@PepesPC> Bonjour, Okay, I know the other list members will allow us to correspond via the list, until the problem gets fixed.... This address I will paste below is , for those who don't already have it, is one of the most useful places to get info on the Oregon Trail ancestors, etc. If anyone would like to check to see if their ancestors were on the Trail, she has one of the most complete lists I have seen covering many years of emigration. I, myself, am creating a MASTER LIST of 1851 O.T. Pioneers (some 4,500 documented names)and plan on getting into print before the end of the year. Your humble servant, &c., Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:52 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] messages to les bounce etc. Albert; What is happening is somebody has a virus on their computer that is spoofing my email address and sending it through your ISP, so your ISP virus protection is assuming I am sending the virus (I don't think so, I have had a current version of Norton on my puter for 3 or four years and now also double check with AVG) and they have blacklisted me from being allowed to send and receive email. At least that is how I would interpret this problem, feel free to ask what you want in the Or-roots list, if I need to respond to it off list I bet I can get through to you still. As to Kathie Lloyd, I doubt that she wouls be of any use to you in your Blanchard quest, as her ancestry is pretty much all Northeastern US old family stuff, her line and mine diverged about 1669 when Sarah Wheeler married John Smedley. I actually don't even have a current email address for Kathy as her life went through a lot of changes a couple of years ago and last time I tried to contact her, the addy I had was no longer valid. Unfortuntely if she ever tries to get ahold of me the address she has will probably no longer be valid as I expect to change my addy shortly. I'm afraid I have pretty much exhausted my resources for finding stuff for you unless I can did something up in Heritage quest books which I will try shortly. As to my Oregon trail ancestors, that is a definite maybe, I don't know for sure if the Melvin clan came on the Oregon trail or a more southerly route. I just know they are in NorCal by about 1850, along with the Tacks who may have come around the Horn, big mystery there, we know some of their furniture did because it still has the shipping info on it, but nobody seems to know if they shipped stuff seperate or brought it with. My dad's side were johnny come latelys, have only been in Oregon about 100 years and came by steam train. My maternal grandfather jumped ship from a british merchant man in San Francisco around 1870 or 80 and came directly to Oregon. I;ll bet gack to you if I find anybody on Heritage quest. Les C Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From donamo47 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 26 22:19:17 2005 From: donamo47 at hotmail.com (M Mollin) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:19:17 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed In-Reply-To: <006501c4ff85$a7df9ec0$1a321c40@org.jeffnet.org> Message-ID: Hi, We found a record on Ancestry.com for our grandfather's death in Portland, Oregon in 1951. Record number 11806. However, the month is missing? Carl Isteed was born in Canada. He and our grandmother were divorced and this record shows his wife's name as Eleanor. We can't find any record for her. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Donna From ssteward at ccountry.net Wed Jan 26 23:20:02 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:20:02 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed References: Message-ID: <000e01c50440$a1775ea0$1057aa41@sue> Carl E. Isteed 26 Oct 1951 Portland County Certificate: 11806 Spouse: Eleanor (maybe 2nd wife) Death certificates for deaths more than 50 years ago are avilable from the Oregon State Archives: http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/reference.html Carl E. Isteed (age 37, birthplace Canada) is listed in the 1930 census for Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona with wife, June Isteed (age 30, no birthplace listed in the index on Ancestry.com). I don't have access to the actual census images. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Mollin" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed > Hi, We found a record on Ancestry.com for our grandfather's death in > Portland, Oregon in 1951. > Record number 11806. However, the month is missing? Carl Isteed was born > in Canada. He and our grandmother were divorced and this record shows his > wife's name as Eleanor. We can't find any record for her. Any information > would be greatly appreciated. > Donna > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > From MStang5165 at aol.com Thu Jan 27 06:39:25 2005 From: MStang5165 at aol.com (MStang5165 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:39:25 EST Subject: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed Message-ID: Donna - Just go online to the Oregon State Archives website, search for the record again and then use the information to order a copy of the death certificate. It will cost you $5.00 if you are a resident of the state of Oregon and $10.00 if not. Mimi Stang (Oregon State Archives volunteer) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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English is the mother tongue spoken before coming to the USA. The 00, 43, V and June's 61, 12, o are office code. Year of immigration was 1922. He was an alien, not naturalized, and able to speak english. The 7623 and June's 7706 are more office code. Yes Carl is working. No he's not a veteran. June was 30, married, age at first marriage was 27. She did not attend school in the last year, and is able to read and write. She was born in Illinois, her mother and father in France. She can speak english. She's a corsetier in a ladies shop. Class of worker is W and yes she is working. Have a great day! Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Steward" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed > Carl E. Isteed > 26 Oct 1951 > Portland County > Certificate: 11806 > Spouse: Eleanor (maybe 2nd wife) > > Death certificates for deaths more than 50 years ago are avilable from the > Oregon State Archives: > http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/reference.html > > Carl E. Isteed (age 37, birthplace Canada) is listed in the 1930 census > for > Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona with wife, June Isteed (age 30, no > birthplace listed in the index on Ancestry.com). I don't have access to > the > actual census images. > > Sue > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Mollin" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:19 PM > Subject: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed > > >> Hi, We found a record on Ancestry.com for our grandfather's death in >> Portland, Oregon in 1951. >> Record number 11806. However, the month is missing? Carl Isteed was >> born >> in Canada. He and our grandmother were divorced and this record shows >> his >> wife's name as Eleanor. We can't find any record for her. Any > information >> would be greatly appreciated. >> Donna >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >> http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Jan 27 13:05:24 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:05:24 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] messages to les bounce etc. References: <000301c503e9$fd0c9250$c2aae904@PepesPC> Message-ID: <002801c504b3$ebd74d20$0300a8c0@Home> Bonjour, Stephenie Flora's web site is .... http://www.oregonpioneers.com/ortrail.htm I found that I couldn't just click on the address in my email, so if you can't either, then just copy/paste it in your browser. Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Belanger" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] messages to les bounce etc. > Bonjour, > > Okay, I know the other list members will allow us to correspond via the > list, until the problem gets fixed.... > > This address I will paste below is , for those who don't already have > it, is one of the most useful places to get info on the Oregon Trail > ancestors, etc. If anyone would like to check to see if their ancestors > were on the Trail, she has one of the most complete lists I have seen > covering many years of emigration. I, myself, am creating a MASTER LIST > of 1851 O.T. Pioneers (some 4,500 documented names)and plan on getting > into print before the end of the year. > > Your humble servant, &c., > > Albert > > Albert Edward Belanger > 128 Middle Road > Brentwood, NH 03833 > > Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration > > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie > Chapman > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:52 AM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: [or-roots] messages to les bounce etc. > > Albert; > > What is happening is somebody has a virus on their computer that is > spoofing > my email address and sending it through your ISP, so your ISP virus > protection is assuming I am sending the virus (I don't think so, I have > had > a current version of Norton on my puter for 3 or four years and now also > double check with AVG) and they have blacklisted me from being allowed > to > send and receive email. > > At least that is how I would interpret this problem, feel free to ask > what > you want in the Or-roots list, if I need to respond to it off list I bet > I > can get through to you still. > > As to Kathie Lloyd, I doubt that she wouls be of any use to you in your > Blanchard quest, as her ancestry is pretty much all Northeastern US old > family stuff, her line and mine diverged about 1669 when Sarah Wheeler > married John Smedley. I actually don't even have a current email address > for > Kathy as her life went through a lot of changes a couple of years ago > and > last time I tried to contact her, the addy I had was no longer valid. > Unfortuntely if she ever tries to get ahold of me the address she has > will > probably no longer be valid as I expect to change my addy shortly. > > I'm afraid I have pretty much exhausted my resources for finding stuff > for > you unless I can did something up in Heritage quest books which I will > try > shortly. > > As to my Oregon trail ancestors, that is a definite maybe, I don't know > for > sure if the Melvin clan came on the Oregon trail or a more southerly > route. > I just know they are in NorCal by about 1850, along with the Tacks who > may > have come around the Horn, big mystery there, we know some of their > furniture did because it still has the shipping info on it, but nobody > seems > to know if they shipped stuff seperate or brought it with. My dad's side > were johnny come latelys, have only been in Oregon about 100 years and > came > by steam train. My maternal grandfather jumped ship from a british > merchant > man in San Francisco around 1870 or 80 and came directly to Oregon. > > I;ll bet gack to you if I find anybody on Heritage quest. > > Les C > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From vveelle at molalla.net Thu Jan 27 14:38:38 2005 From: vveelle at molalla.net (Verdena Veelle) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:38:38 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Re: [ORBAKER-L] Help needed on 1895 marriage References: <1e8.3384b201.2f2aa325@aol.com> Message-ID: <0a9b01c504c0$f51d57a0$0201a8c0@yourae066c3a9b> I don't know about divorce records but here is some marriage information. Below is the information listed at Search Idaho Marriage Index (which includes Eastern Oregon records as well) http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/fhc/gbsearch.htm ID Number 163058 Grooms First Name Richard Grooms Last Name JONES Grooms Residence Brides First Name Luella Brides Last Name BALDWIN Brides Residence County of Record Baker Co., Oregon Place of Marriage Date of Marriage 7 Feb 1895 Volume 1 Page 195 Comment ----- Original Message ----- From: WSteven102 at aol.com To: ORBAKER-L at rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [ORBAKER-L] Help needed on 1895 marriage Anyone able to give me an ides as to where to look. I have info. from a divorce in 1897 from Colorado that Luella A Baldwin and Richard Jones were married in Baker OR on 1 Feb 1895, however I am unable to find anything on the state archives index. As was suggested to me by several people on the Oregon list. I did find info. on the LDS IGI list, but no source information. Also looked in Baker county info. with no luck. I would like to obtain a copy, but don't want to request it until I know for sure there is one. W Stevenson, Centennial, CO ==== ORBAKER Mailing List ==== Visit the Baker County GenWeb! http://www.rootsweb.com/~orbaker/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nancydean at columbia-center.org Thu Jan 27 18:04:56 2005 From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:04:56 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Subject: [or-roots] UPDATE: FOUND FAMILY / Very Old Family Photo Album Message-ID: <41F99DC8.000007.32329@MY FAMILY> Hello All, Since this was posted on "Or-roots" a while back, thought I would let you all know, I found the family to this old photo album & it has been mailed to her in: Medford, OR. Eva is thrilled to get it. I'm more thrilled after 18 years of trying to find the family than any one can imagine : ) Below is the update, I put on the Josephine Co., OR. site & the original posting by me.. Thanks All Nancy _____________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________ UPDATE: FOUND FAMILY / Very Old Family Photo Album Author: Nancy Adams Date: 27 Jan 2005 1:22 AM Surnames: Haas, Wasson, Clemmer & more Classification: Query In Reply to: Very Old Family Photo Album / Want to find it's Family by: Nancy Adams FOUND: The granddaughter to this old photo album & I sent the Album to her this week. She lives in Medford, OR. She is THRILLED!! Thank you.. everyone for helping me, THANKS : ) Nancy ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Very Old Family Photo Album / Want to find it's Family Author: Nancy Adams Surnames: Clemmer, Haas, Carson, Wasson, Schaffer Classification: Query Hi! I have a very old family picture album, about late 1800's up into the 1900's I worked for a second hand store in Grants Pass, Oregon in 1986. This picture album was going in the garbage, & couldn't let that happen. I have hung on to this very special lost family treasure for 18 years now! There may not be any family left to this old album, I don't know, but I need to try & find them. I FEEL THE FAMILY THAT OWNED THIS PHOTO ALBUM, MAY HAVE DIED IN: about 1986 in Grants Pass, OR. The owner of the second hand store would buy unpaid storage units that people left behind. Here are all the names I found: Minnie Clemmer..Mom's 80th birthday, taken Sept. 7-1951 Clifford Haas Kenneth Carson Viola Carson Bill Carson Harvey Henry Minnie Mrs. Schaffer Hattie There's a newspaper clipping: Sept. 24, 1938 (about rule by force) Wasson Reunion Elsie & Chuck Haas Chuck Haas Al Clemmer And (Lady the Dog)...1949 There's a picture of a meeting house. It says on back of picture: Birminghouse? Meeting house. Near Chadd's Fork, PA. There is a photo of a very large group of men and reads under the Photo: KNIGHTS OF THE PYTHIA There is a lot of Pictures. My sister said when I showed her that the pictures are very old, & when they were taken, the kind of film they used was like film from another country. Better film than here in the U. S. at that time. There mostly color & very beautiful. I sure hope Some one will recognized these Surnames. What is neat here is the surname(Haas)is in my family & they were from PA. . .PA. Dutch, or Mennonites. They came from there on the Oregon Trail, second wagon train to ever travel it. Surnames in my family are: Plank, Hill, Lydall, Miller, Smith, Keck, Housouer, Yoder, Yost, Stevens, McCubbins, Flanagan & More. I also have family in Grants Pass, Rogue River, Gold Hill Oregon..Diess Family & more. Thanks! Nancy nancydean at columbia-center.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMSTP.gif Type: image/gif Size: 8841 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skipb at rcn.com Fri Jan 28 07:01:47 2005 From: skipb at rcn.com (Albert Belanger) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:01:47 -0500 Subject: [or-roots] RE: Umatilla Look-ups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c5054a$4c520690$1a95e904@PepesPC> Bonjour, Again, I apologize for using the list for this response to Les' offer....... Les, I wonder if it would be possible to do a "Find/Search" for the year "1851" and come up with the folks who're identified as coming over the Trail that year? Thanks, Albert Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From CARROLLOUC at aol.com Fri Jan 28 08:16:14 2005 From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:16:14 EST Subject: [or-roots] RE: Umatilla Look-ups Message-ID: <88.1f25dc14.2f2bbf4e@aol.com> Let me jump in here - there were quite a number of trains that came over the Oregon Trail in 1851. I did a search and came up with this one but haven't checked all of the names. Maybe it will help. To do the search I typed in Oregon Trail 1851 and came up with quite a few hits. 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Regards, Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of CARROLLOUC at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:16 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] RE: Umatilla Look-ups Let me jump in here - there were quite a number of trains that came over the Oregon Trail in 1851. I did a search and came up with this one but haven't checked all of the names. Maybe it will help. To do the search I typed in Oregon Trail 1851 and came up with quite a few hits. Carroll Cooper Summers http://www.mystic.com/dcd/collver/doc/ORTRLweb.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: [or-roots] Goodman in Umatilla My ggGrand Father died in Umatilla about 1850. His Name was Joseph B. Goodman--b. in Indiana about 1819. Do you have any info beyond this? His son was Thomas Goodman. Could he have been on a Wagon Train or was he earlier than that? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Jan 28 19:31:53 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:31:53 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Goodman in Umatilla References: <012920050020.27701.41FAD6D10002621000006C352200737478CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002701c505b3$16cb3c30$de57aa41@sue> http://genealogy.state.or.us/start.lasso?location=search In the Oregon State Archives if you type in Goodman and Umatilla County, there are 20 Goodman listings including a delayed birth certificate for Thomas Goodman. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: Oregon Group Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: [or-roots] Goodman in Umatilla My ggGrand Father died in Umatilla about 1850. His Name was Joseph B. Goodman--b. in Indiana about 1819. Do you have any info beyond this? His son was Thomas Goodman. 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URL: From khanjehgil at presys.com Fri Jan 28 19:38:08 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:38:08 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] RE: Umatilla Look-ups In-Reply-To: <000d01c5054a$4c520690$1a95e904@PepesPC> Message-ID: Okay Folks; This is going to confuse a few of you, I did the search Albert asked for; searching "Oregon Trail" gives you 626,000 hits, searching within those for 1851 reduces it to 11,400 hits: now I "might" be a nice guy, BUT . . . not that nice, so I further restricted it to "passenger list" and the first thing that comes up is; http://www.pt5dome.com/PassHome.html Which, as far as I can tell, has NOTHING to do with the Oregon Trail, it does, however, have scads of interesting information which seems to come primarily from Panama (???) about the comings and goings of (mostly) Americans. For instance there is a list of dead Americans reported to the Consulate, I am a little vague as to exactly what this list is, I am pretty sure they didn't all die on that date and suspect they may not all have even died in Panama, but the big thing is if you have a relative who vanished into thin air and he or she IS on this list, all of a sudden you have greatly narrowed down your search. There is a search engine at the bottom of the page which I assume is for the complete web site. I was very disappointed that my Tacks didn't show up there, but if they came around the Horn that would make sense. # 2 was the site Carroll mentioned. Then; http://www.pacifier.com/~karenl/genealogy_resources.htm looks real interesting, unfortunately mostly broken links, also if your Kin weren't Finn she may not have them. After several mostly useless links, I came to one that is kind of like Cyndi's list, but has a lot of bad links and links to commercial genealogy stuff, so won't bother, then; http://www.lib.pg.bc.ca/genealogy/american.html which is a nationwide links page which the big thing I notice is every state is headed with a link to the 1895 atlas web site, I didn't check to see if they were current links or not, if not I can supply that link, but what I especially notice is ALBERT, ATTENTION PLEASE: they have a link to The Oregon trail list on OR-roots, now I am sure I knew it existed, but for some reason didn't remember, and am asking; Albert, did you already mention this? http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html will take you to a comprehensive list of Or-Roots Oregon lists including the Oregon Trail one., http://www.mccormickbooks.com/genealogyjournals.html is another fascinating source for genealogy stuff, but I can't see what it has to do with the Oregon Trail http://www.mccormickbooks.com/genealogyjournals.html is an interesting site, but nothig for the Trail that I could see. And that, I am sorry to say, is all I could come up with, lots of neat stuff, but not much for Albert. I am further astonished that Heritage Quest doesn't seem to have anything in their book collection on the Oregon trail. Sorry Gang. LEs C -----Original Message----- From: Albert Belanger Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: [or-roots] RE: Umatilla Look-ups Bonjour, Again, I apologize for using the list for this response to Les' offer....... Les, I wonder if it would be possible to do a "Find/Search" for the year "1851" and come up with the folks who're identified as coming over the Trail that year? Thanks, Albert Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From khanjehgil at presys.com Fri Jan 28 20:21:40 2005 From: khanjehgil at presys.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:21:40 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Goodman in Umatilla In-Reply-To: <012920050020.27701.41FAD6D10002621000006C352200737478CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bob; Heritage quest books do not list one single Goodman in their data base, sorry. LEs C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of dgoodma02 at comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:21 PM To: Oregon Group Subject: [or-roots] Goodman in Umatilla My ggGrand Father died in Umatilla about 1850. His Name was Joseph B. Goodman--b. in Indiana about 1819. Do you have any info beyond this? His son was Thomas Goodman. Could he have been on a Wagon Train or was he earlier than that? -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From donamo47 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 28 22:56:12 2005 From: donamo47 at hotmail.com (M Mollin) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:56:12 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed In-Reply-To: <001001c5048d$2385d380$0300a8c0@Home> Message-ID: Hi and thank you for replying. Carl my grandfather was a very busy boy!!! He and my grandmother had a homestead in Alberta Canada in 1915. He was born Aug. 4, 1892 in Marmora, Ontario. They lived in Vancouver, B.C. in the early 20's, and he and my grandmother Myrtle divorced. I can find no record of their marriage or their divorce? After 1923 Carl seemed to disappear, and his family never heard from him again. I found a record in Ancestry.com that he died in 1951 in Portland, Oregon and it lists his wife as Eleanor. I cannot find any record of June or Eleanor Isteed? Thanks again, Donna >From: "Steve & Ronda Howard" >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: >Subject: Re: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed >Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:27:47 -0800 > >Hi Donna, >I have access to the images. Here's what's onthe 1930 census. >Arizona, Maricoba County, "Phoenix City", Precinct 26, April 9th, 1930 >They lived at 1350 E. Polk Street. > >Isteed, Carl, head, R, 40, M, W, 37, m, 34, yes, yes, Canada-English, >Canada-English, Canada-English -English, 00, 43, V, 1922, AL, yes, >Mechanic, automobile, 7623, W, yes, no >Isteed, June, wife, F, W, 30, m, 27, no, yes, Illinois, >France, France, 61, 12, o, yes, corsetiere, ladies shop, 7706, W, yes > >So, Carl rented his home for $40. He was 37 on his last birthday, is >married, age at first marriage was 34, attended school or college since >9/1/1929, is able to read and write, his father, mother and himself are >from Canada. English is the mother tongue spoken before coming to the USA. > The 00, 43, V and June's 61, 12, o are office code. Year of immigration >was 1922. He was an alien, not naturalized, and able to speak english. >The 7623 and June's 7706 are more office code. Yes Carl is working. No >he's not a veteran. > >June was 30, married, age at first marriage was 27. She did not attend >school in the last year, and is able to read and write. She was born in >Illinois, her mother and father in France. She can speak english. She's a >corsetier in a ladies shop. Class of worker is W and yes she is working. > >Have a great day! >Ronda > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Steward" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:20 PM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed > > >>Carl E. Isteed >>26 Oct 1951 >>Portland County >>Certificate: 11806 >>Spouse: Eleanor (maybe 2nd wife) >> >>Death certificates for deaths more than 50 years ago are avilable from the >>Oregon State Archives: >>http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/reference.html >> >>Carl E. Isteed (age 37, birthplace Canada) is listed in the 1930 census >>for >>Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona with wife, June Isteed (age 30, no >>birthplace listed in the index on Ancestry.com). I don't have access to >>the >>actual census images. >> >>Sue >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "M Mollin" >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:19 PM >>Subject: [or-roots] Re: Oregon Death Isteed >> >> >>>Hi, We found a record on Ancestry.com for our grandfather's death in >>>Portland, Oregon in 1951. >>>Record number 11806. However, the month is missing? Carl Isteed was >>>born >>>in Canada. He and our grandmother were divorced and this record shows >>>his >>>wife's name as Eleanor. We can't find any record for her. Any >>information >>>would be greatly appreciated. >>>Donna >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>or-roots mailing list >>>or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >>>http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >>> >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>or-roots mailing list >>or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >>http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> > >_______________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From Kith-n-Kin at att.net Sat Jan 29 21:26:56 2005 From: Kith-n-Kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:26:56 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c5068c$53f8a780$f253960a@LAPTOPVW6L0E> Les and others Take a look at this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/tech/main649317.shtml You indeed *can* Google your computer. I downloaded this just before I left for Oregon this week so haven't tried it, but it looks good to me. BTW, thanks for giving us nice cloudy and "showery" weather! We were just looking at the weather forecast -- showers through Tuesday, light rain on Wednesday. I'm sorry -- is there a difference? Regards, Pat (usually in reallly dry Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:13 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter Your welcome Linda, unfortunately I have dozens of neat little things like that on my puter that I have no idea are there unless I stumble across them, I guess I need to figure out a way to google my puter. Some of the neat little things I have are no longer available from the internet, or have been moved to places I can't find them, and if I don't remember that they exist, I can't share them with folks. I thought I had googled 'soundes converter' the other night when the subject came up, but guess I didn't. I also just remembered another neat site that I can no longer find and unfortunately what I had saved on my puter got corrupted and is no longer useful, but it was pages of info for interpreting old style writing. I know I probably bug some folks with my stream of conscious (unconciousness?) postings, but sometimes i jar loose a factoid that helps somebody that would have remained buried if I kept it "businesslike" and concise and all of that. Often times newbies don't realize what an infinite genealogy resource the internet is, I have been at this for about six years now and have accumulated about 9500 people in my family tree, 7 or 8 thousand of whom are actual 'kin' and virtually all of whom are only one or two degrees seperated from 'kin' I have spent maybe a hundred dollars on books and copies from distant sources, another hundred or so making copies of stuff at Coos and Douglas County courthouses, and the rest of my info has just cost me time. My family feels I am obsessed, but I do sleep and work and sometimes even go to family functions. But I have probably just about enough stuff on my computer and in my archives to fill a DVD, I got past one CD a couple years ago at least. So I really try to discourage folks from going the Ancestry.com subscription, or buy $100 CD's route until they are sure they have exhausted the internet. But maybe I am just lucky to have found so much stuff online. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:41 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter Thank you, Les, for that URL. I don't know if I have seen it before, but it really is neat! Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net Sat Jan 29 21:39:33 2005 From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:39:33 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] New email address Message-ID: Hope this works, Les Chapman is NOT AT; khanjehgil at presys.com BUT AT; reedsportchapmans at verizon.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From wulf at bendbroadband.com Sat Jan 29 22:40:55 2005 From: wulf at bendbroadband.com (Barbara Wulf) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:40:55 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter References: <000001c5068c$53f8a780$f253960a@LAPTOPVW6L0E> Message-ID: <005501c50696$a644b970$0200a8c0@barbarian> Actually I think there is a difference between "showers" and "light rain". Showers means you can duck under an awning until it clears and you will be fine. Light rain means you will be fighting it all day but never get really wet, just miserable. Welcome home. Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter Les and others Take a look at this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/tech/main649317.shtml You indeed *can* Google your computer. I downloaded this just before I left for Oregon this week so haven't tried it, but it looks good to me. BTW, thanks for giving us nice cloudy and "showery" weather! We were just looking at the weather forecast -- showers through Tuesday, light rain on Wednesday. I'm sorry -- is there a difference? Regards, Pat (usually in reallly dry Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:13 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter Your welcome Linda, unfortunately I have dozens of neat little things like that on my puter that I have no idea are there unless I stumble across them, I guess I need to figure out a way to google my puter. Some of the neat little things I have are no longer available from the internet, or have been moved to places I can't find them, and if I don't remember that they exist, I can't share them with folks. I thought I had googled 'soundes converter' the other night when the subject came up, but guess I didn't. I also just remembered another neat site that I can no longer find and unfortunately what I had saved on my puter got corrupted and is no longer useful, but it was pages of info for interpreting old style writing. I know I probably bug some folks with my stream of conscious (unconciousness?) postings, but sometimes i jar loose a factoid that helps somebody that would have remained buried if I kept it "businesslike" and concise and all of that. Often times newbies don't realize what an infinite genealogy resource the internet is, I have been at this for about six years now and have accumulated about 9500 people in my family tree, 7 or 8 thousand of whom are actual 'kin' and virtually all of whom are only one or two degrees seperated from 'kin' I have spent maybe a hundred dollars on books and copies from distant sources, another hundred or so making copies of stuff at Coos and Douglas County courthouses, and the rest of my info has just cost me time. My family feels I am obsessed, but I do sleep and work and sometimes even go to family functions. But I have probably just about enough stuff on my computer and in my archives to fill a DVD, I got past one CD a couple years ago at least. So I really try to discourage folks from going the Ancestry.com subscription, or buy $100 CD's route until they are sure they have exhausted the internet. But maybe I am just lucky to have found so much stuff online. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:41 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter Thank you, Les, for that URL. I don't know if I have seen it before, but it really is neat! Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From barbhg1221 at comcast.net Sun Jan 30 00:00:43 2005 From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (barbhg1221 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 08:00:43 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter Message-ID: <013020050800.14420.41FC942B000112E1000038542205886360CECDCDCE09080D9D0E0D@comcast.net> Barb, that is a great explanation of the difference between showers and light rain. I notice that you describe dealing with the rain not staying inside until it goes away. My raised in the Willamette Valley but living in southern California daughter is constantly amazed at the fact that a lot of people there will not even go to the store if it is raining. We'd starve here with that kind of thinking. Barbara Herring -------------- Original message -------------- > Actually I think there is a difference between "showers" and "light rain". > Showers means you can duck under an awning until it clears and you will be > fine. Light rain means you will be fighting it all day but never get really > wet, just miserable. > > Welcome home. > > Barb > wulf at bendbroadband.com > http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kith-n-Kin" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:26 PM > Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter > > > Les and others > > Take a look at this: > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/tech/main649317.shtml > > You indeed *can* Google your computer. I downloaded this just before I left > for Oregon this week so haven't tried it, but it looks good to me. > > BTW, thanks for giving us nice cloudy and "showery" weather! We were just > looking at the weather forecast -- showers through Tuesday, light rain on > Wednesday. I'm sorry -- is there a difference? > > Regards, > > Pat (usually in reallly dry Tucson) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rayp6217 at comcast.net Sun Jan 30 00:18:30 2005 From: rayp6217 at comcast.net (Ray Powell) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:18:30 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Re: googling your own computer References: <000001c5068c$53f8a780$f253960a@LAPTOPVW6L0E> Message-ID: <000e01c506a4$485c2a10$6401a8c0@Dell6217> Googling your computer has its limitations. I understand it will only google certain types of files and even then its accuracy is only so-so. After reading a couple of reviews on it I decided that for the time being the small number of advantages weren't worth the problems that were likely to occur. Ray Powell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter Les and others Take a look at this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/tech/main649317.shtml You indeed *can* Google your computer. I downloaded this just before I left for Oregon this week so haven't tried it, but it looks good to me. BTW, thanks for giving us nice cloudy and "showery" weather! We were just looking at the weather forecast -- showers through Tuesday, light rain on Wednesday. I'm sorry -- is there a difference? Regards, Pat (usually in reallly dry Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:13 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter Your welcome Linda, unfortunately I have dozens of neat little things like that on my puter that I have no idea are there unless I stumble across them, I guess I need to figure out a way to google my puter. Some of the neat little things I have are no longer available from the internet, or have been moved to places I can't find them, and if I don't remember that they exist, I can't share them with folks. I thought I had googled 'soundes converter' the other night when the subject came up, but guess I didn't. I also just remembered another neat site that I can no longer find and unfortunately what I had saved on my puter got corrupted and is no longer useful, but it was pages of info for interpreting old style writing. I know I probably bug some folks with my stream of conscious (unconciousness?) postings, but sometimes i jar loose a factoid that helps somebody that would have remained buried if I kept it "businesslike" and concise and all of that. Often times newbies don't realize what an infinite genealogy resource the internet is, I have been at this for about six years now and have accumulated about 9500 people in my family tree, 7 or 8 thousand of whom are actual 'kin' and virtually all of whom are only one or two degrees seperated from 'kin' I have spent maybe a hundred dollars on books and copies from distant sources, another hundred or so making copies of stuff at Coos and Douglas County courthouses, and the rest of my info has just cost me time. My family feels I am obsessed, but I do sleep and work and sometimes even go to family functions. But I have probably just about enough stuff on my computer and in my archives to fill a DVD, I got past one CD a couple years ago at least. So I really try to discourage folks from going the Ancestry.com subscription, or buy $100 CD's route until they are sure they have exhausted the internet. But maybe I am just lucky to have found so much stuff online. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:41 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter Thank you, Les, for that URL. I don't know if I have seen it before, but it really is neat! Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net Sun Jan 30 00:20:25 2005 From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:20:25 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Showers vs light rain Message-ID: This actually has nothing to do with either except it is a rain story; my parents had a genealogy prof when they were finishing their degree work in thier fifties who said he had originally moved to Oregon right after WWII, but left when he saw a woman in her front yard in a row boat trying to find her well so she could get a bucket of water. He told that story with a straight face, but I always thought it was a tall tale. Les Chapman reedsportchapmans at verizon.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From Kith-n-Kin at att.net Sun Jan 30 08:29:38 2005 From: Kith-n-Kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:29:38 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter In-Reply-To: <013020050800.14420.41FC942B000112E1000038542205886360CECDCDCE09080D9D0E0D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006401c506e8$e8467c80$f253960a@LAPTOPVW6L0E> Heh, heh. Well, we were in the great state of Oregon for a whole week, last week, and got clouds, fog, sunshine, and a little bit of something coming out of the sky. Not too sure what it was. I think both the light rain and the showers chose to go to Tucson while we were up in Oregon. Had a great time, and ran around Marion County looking at the various cemeteries with my 89 year old cousin -- she was driving, thank goodness, I'd be lost. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of barbhg1221 at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 1:01 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter Barb, that is a great explanation of the difference between showers and light rain. I notice that you describe dealing with the rain not staying inside until it goes away. My raised in the Willamette Valley but living in southern California daughter is constantly amazed at the fact that a lot of people there will not even go to the store if it is raining. We'd starve here with that kind of thinking. Barbara Herring -------------- Original message -------------- > Actually I think there is a difference between "showers" and "light rain". > Showers means you can duck under an awning until it clears and you will be > fine. Light rain means you will be fighting it all day but never get really > wet, just miserable. > > Welcome home. > > Barb > wulf at bendbroadband.com > http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kith-n-Kin" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:26 PM > Subject: RE: [or-roots] soundex converter > > > Les and others > > Take a look at this: > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/tech/main649317.shtml > > You indeed *can* Google your computer. I downloaded this just before I left > for Oregon this week so haven't tried it, but it looks good to me. > > BTW, thanks for giving us nice cloudy and "showery" weather! We were just > looking at the weather forecast -- showers through Tuesday, light rain on > Wednesday. I'm sorry -- is there a difference? > > Regards, > > Pat (usually in reallly dry Tucson) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LinLouVan at aol.com Sun Jan 30 08:37:30 2005 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:37:30 EST Subject: [or-roots] OBIT REPORT - The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon Message-ID: <1a7.304e75bd.2f2e674a@aol.com> I am still indexing deaths and obituaries found in The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon on a daily basis. I am now sending these only to a private list. If you are not now receiving the OBIT REPORT but would like to, please email me directly and I will add you to the list. Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR LinLouVan at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR LinLouVan at aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0504-4, 01/28/2005 Tested on: 1/30/2005 8:38:59 AM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0504-4, 01/28/2005 Tested on: 1/30/2005 8:40:26 AM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DAVIESW739 at aol.com Sun Jan 30 10:06:27 2005 From: DAVIESW739 at aol.com (DAVIESW739 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:06:27 EST Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter Message-ID: <9b.58065c12.2f2e7c23@aol.com> Pat, You mean you drove right up to my back door and didn't stop in to say hello. 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URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Sun Jan 30 21:16:48 2005 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:16:48 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s References: <011001c50751$fa808800$8917bf42@Trischa> Message-ID: <001301c50754$13d3c4a0$6257aa41@sue> http://www.foxvalleyhistory.org/WWII/1942/ration.htm There's some information on this website. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Trisha Neal To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net Sun Jan 30 21:52:04 2005 From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:52:04 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s In-Reply-To: <011001c50751$fa808800$8917bf42@Trischa> Message-ID: Trisha; Last question first, according to; http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/war_ration.ht ml every member of the family recieved a "ration book" http://www.prewarbuick.com/id389.htm has some more discussion of why rationing existed. I can't find anything online in any detail about the issuing process, they talk about "proving to the rationing board" that you needed "whatever" and restrictions, such as you had to swear you only owned 5 tires to get some ration coupons and that sort of thing. As near as I understand it, everybody had to have ration coupons, if you didn't a lot of "basics" were denied to you, or severely limited. Any of you that were there might be able to explain this easier than a "boomer" like me. Les C -----Original Message----- From: Trisha Neal Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:02 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05 From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net Sun Jan 30 22:35:18 2005 From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:35:18 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Ware family (Eugene, Lane Co, Oregon) In-Reply-To: <01d301c50701$4d210ae0$5761bb3f@Fain> Message-ID: Babe; I grew up with some Ware's in Lane county, but I think they were fairly recent transplants, as I always thought they were kind of "hill folk" as in Okies or some such, but maybe they just never adopted an "Oregon" accent. Of course when I went into Peace Corps most folks from the eastern seaboard thought I was an Okie which I attributed to having been exposed to a lot of them when growing up and always liking they way they talked. I find George in Indian Valley in 1900 with children Robert son Dec 1877 Frankie " July 1881 Effie Dau Dec 1883 Isabel dau Oct 1887 James son May 1892 May dau Mar 1894 Lulu M. dau Mar 1896 All b. Oregon And Geo is back in Lane Co. in 1920 with wife Elizabeth age 62 b. Arkansas. , but I see no sign of any of his kids in Lane Co in 1920. I will forward this to my sis-in-law to see if she knows more about the Wares we do know there, but it looks like your folks may not be there. Robert seems to be in Midvale, Washington Co Idaho in 1920, but I have had no luck finding the rest, including your gram Effie, I find no Robbins in Idaho 1920 Census that even comes close to Jesse, no Ware close to Franke and James and didn't even try for the rest of the girs. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Babe Fain Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:24 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Ware family (Eugene, Lane Co, Oregon) Hi: I am looking for "Ware" family member who may still be in the Eugene, Lane County or Beaverton, Washington County area. George Ware, born 1856, Eugene, Lane County, Oregon and died 1929. Eugene, Lane County, Oregon. He is buried in Indian Valley, Washington County, Idaho by his first wife Martha Jane Bailey. George was the father of seven children. Mae Estella Ware Robbins was his sixth child. In 1902, Mae married Jesse Greer Robbins in Washington County Idaho. jesse Greer Robbins was my grandmother Elsie Elizabeth Robbins Pickler's brother. Jesse and Mae had two daughters, Zella Mae and Norma Louise. Thanks Babe Fain -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05 From DAVIESW739 at aol.com Sun Jan 30 23:09:24 2005 From: DAVIESW739 at aol.com (DAVIESW739 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:09:24 EST Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Message-ID: <8c.1f86820a.2f2f33a4@aol.com> Mother had an old radio that had been gutted and it was full of sugar and gas stamps, living on the farm as we did we had lots of butter to trade for sugar stamps and mother got gas stamps to drive 30 miles to McClellan AFB but she only drove 5 miles to Loomis where she took the government bus to work. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dolores djbrtb at kci.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vveelle at molalla.net Mon Jan 31 02:02:32 2005 From: vveelle at molalla.net (Verdena Veelle) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:02:32 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s References: <011001c50751$fa808800$8917bf42@Trischa> Message-ID: <0d6101c5077b$feb5b420$0201a8c0@yourae066c3a9b> I was born in December of 1942 and I found a ration book with my name on it in my father's trunk many years later. All of the coupons had apparently been used but he saved the book that they came in. It would appear to me that every child must have had rations issued. Verdena Veelle Mulino, Oregon PS Like the verse! ----- Original Message ----- From: Trisha Neal To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmurray1 at cox.net Mon Jan 31 03:14:01 2005 From: gmurray1 at cox.net (Gary Murray) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 04:14:01 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s References: <011001c50751$fa808800$8917bf42@Trischa> <002c01c50775$debb1da0$dc47bb40@kci.net> Message-ID: <002801c50785$f7e98bd0$d0676244@GaryMurray> GOOD MORNING: all my data is...... GARY D. MURRAY 10332 W. OCOTILLO DRIVE SUN CITY. AZ623-583-2047 ----- Original Message ----- From: D. J. Brotherton To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:18 AM Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Trisha Neal I don't seem to have your offline address. I was just looking at my Ration Book yesterday. I was in grade school. Everyone in the family got their own book. Stamps for each type of commodity ration such as sugar. I still have stamps left unused in my book. My mother signed for my book, but it has all my personal information at the time on it. We lived on a farm and had an A Gas stamp on our car we used to go to town which meant 20 gallons ( I believe) a month - but my dad who helped build Camp Adair had a C or D stamp which meant much more and he car pooled as well. Life was interesting then. Dolores djbrtb at kci.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Verdena Veelle Mulino, Oregon PS Like the verse! ----- Original Message ----- From: Trisha Neal To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From evbarnes at earthlink.net Mon Jan 31 07:19:15 2005 From: evbarnes at earthlink.net (E V Barnes) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:19:15 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s References: <011001c50751$fa808800$8917bf42@Trischa> Message-ID: <00b001c507a8$3a2cc580$6401a8c0@GENE> Every family had one. Butter, Meat, Eggs, Gasoline, shoes hard toget, no vehicles produced fall of 41-46. Gasoline had A, B, C. windshiled stickerthere may have been more. We used to watch the P-38's and P-39's in mock dogfights over the skys of Oakland. Later the Blackwidow could be seen going out in the eveing sky. There were several false alarms. One Jap sub did fire on the southern coast. Did little or no damage. During the middle of the war my father's shop repaired a buick that had been side swiped by the flatbed carrying a minature Jap sub. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trisha Neal To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at att.net Mon Jan 31 07:33:49 2005 From: Kith-n-Kin at att.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:33:49 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter In-Reply-To: <9b.58065c12.2f2e7c23@aol.com> Message-ID: <000601c507aa$47efcda0$f253960a@LAPTOPVW6L0E> Oops, my bad! But, you all may recall that I thought North Bend was north of Bend (logic, anyone?). Geography is apparently my downfall (remember, my 89 year old cousin drove? there was a reason for that!) So, where is Monmouth, anyway? I'll be up again next year, try to do better! Pat -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DAVIESW739 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:06 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] soundex converter Pat, You mean you drove right up to my back door and didn't stop in to say hello. BUMMER Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: walt%20at%2055%20icon.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jacroing67 at ev1.net Mon Jan 31 07:50:25 2005 From: jacroing67 at ev1.net (Jacqueline) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:50:25 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s References: <011001c50751$fa808800$8917bf42@Trischa> <00b001c507a8$3a2cc580$6401a8c0@GENE> Message-ID: <004001c507ac$95b23260$4b292a42@Hope> The stamps that were a struggle for families was "shoes".....I remember one pair dad bought for me, evidentially the soles were made of cardboard made to look like leather, walking a mile to school on gravel in the winter rains, they lasted a week. Dad took the shoes back to the store and somehow got a replacement that lasted the winter months. The stamps were not to be loose when you bought the restricted items, but everyone exchanged for what they didn't use for what was needed. I can still see my grandmother bending over the paper to see what stamp could be used the day we went to the store. What wasn't in the books was also interesting, in order to purchase toothpaste you had to be exchange your used tube to get a new one. Get into town and the whispers were, Mangus has Kleenex, under the counter, so and so store has stockings, under the counter. So you had to ask for the item in order to get it, and that was possible if the clerk liked you or not. Jacqueline jacroing67 at ev1.net ----- Original Message ----- From: E V Barnes To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Every family had one. Butter, Meat, Eggs, Gasoline, shoes hard toget, no vehicles produced fall of 41-46. Gasoline had A, B, C. windshiled stickerthere may have been more. We used to watch the P-38's and P-39's in mock dogfights over the skys of Oakland. Later the Blackwidow could be seen going out in the eveing sky. There were several false alarms. One Jap sub did fire on the southern coast. Did little or no damage. During the middle of the war my father's shop repaired a buick that had been side swiped by the flatbed carrying a minature Jap sub. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trisha Neal To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DAVIESW739 at aol.com Mon Jan 31 08:17:01 2005 From: DAVIESW739 at aol.com (DAVIESW739 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:17:01 EST Subject: [or-roots] soundex converter Message-ID: <195.37c52e25.2f2fb3fd@aol.com> Monmouth is 20 miles due west of Salem. Since my house faces west Salem is in my backyard. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: walt%20at%2055%20icon.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2892 bytes Desc: not available URL: From CKlooster at aol.com Mon Jan 31 08:40:08 2005 From: CKlooster at aol.com (CKlooster at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:40:08 EST Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Message-ID: I was born in the summer of 1946 and in my baby book I found a ration book with my name on it, so rationing must have continued even after the war. Carla -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsam at sampubco.com Mon Jan 31 09:44:14 2005 From: dsam at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:44:14 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s References: Message-ID: <41FE6E6E.6060502@sampubco.com> War Emergency lasted until at least the end of 1947 according to my friend. David Samuelsen CKlooster at aol.com wrote: > I was born in the summer of 1946 and in my baby book I found a ration > book with my name on it, so rationing must have continued even after the > war. > > Carla From fitzcf at hotmail.com Mon Jan 31 11:16:27 2005 From: fitzcf at hotmail.com (Cheryl Fitzsimons) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:16:27 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] OBIT REPORT - The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon In-Reply-To: <1a7.304e75bd.2f2e674a@aol.com> Message-ID: Please add me to the OBIT REPORT list, also. Thank you, Cheryl >From: LinLouVan at aol.com >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] OBIT REPORT - The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:37:30 EST > >I am still indexing deaths and obituaries found in The Register-Guard, >Eugene, Oregon >on a daily basis. I am now sending these only to a private list. > >If you are not now receiving the OBIT REPORT but would like to, please >email >me >directly and I will add you to the list. > >Linda VanOrden >Junction City, OR >LinLouVan at aol.com From trisch at charter.net Mon Jan 31 11:31:54 2005 From: trisch at charter.net (Trisha Neal) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:31:54 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Union Pacific Railroad branch called the Fruitland Express Message-ID: <024d01c507cc$1bc62360$8917bf42@Trischa> Seeking information on a branch of the Union Pacific Railroad that was called the Fruitland Express that would have run from Eastern Oregon to or through Reith, OR in the 1940s. Thank you! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ndloop at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 31 11:59:43 2005 From: ndloop at sbcglobal.net (Violet Sunderland) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:59:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Government Rationing in WWII Message-ID: <20050131195943.8114.qmail@web81507.mail.yahoo.com> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/OPA.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyfulton/Salute/WWIIrations.html http://www.westtexas.tstc.edu/wasp/wasp_articles/ration1.htm http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module18/RationingduringWWII.htm http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/homefront/conservation.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/1255045/posts -- Slow. Scroll down. From ndloop at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 31 12:03:41 2005 From: ndloop at sbcglobal.net (Violet Sunderland) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:03:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Government Rationing, WWII -- URLs Message-ID: <20050131200341.86642.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com> Here's quite a bit of info about rationing: http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/OPA.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyfulton/Salute/WWIIrations.html http://www.westtexas.tstc.edu/wasp/wasp_articles/ration1.htm http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module18/RationingduringWWII.htm http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/homefront/conservation.html http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/1255045/posts -- Slow. Scroll down. Violet Sunderland mailto:ndloop at sbcglobal.net From LinLouVan at aol.com Mon Jan 31 12:15:55 2005 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:15:55 EST Subject: [or-roots] OBIT REPORT - The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon Message-ID: In a message dated 1/31/05 11:28:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, fitzcf at hotmail.com writes: Please add me to the OBIT REPORT list, also. Cheryl, You have been added and should begin receiving the report tomorrow. If you ever tire of these daily postings, just email me directly and I will remove you. Also, if you go on vacation and your mailbox gets full, thus returning the mail to me, I sometimes take people off just so they don't bounce back at me continually. So, if you begin missing the reports, just email me. Linda VanOrden Junction City, Oregon LinLouVan at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trisch at charter.net Mon Jan 31 12:20:55 2005 From: trisch at charter.net (Trisha Neal) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:20:55 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Government Rationing, WWII -- URLs References: <20050131200341.86642.qmail@web81504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <029801c507d2$60120f10$8917bf42@Trischa> Thanks! Very informative...which brings the question of where were the boards, did they meet at certain times or did you apply at the post office?? That's something that I couldn't find in the information. Trish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Violet Sunderland" To: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [or-roots] Government Rationing, WWII -- URLs > Here's quite a bit of info about rationing: > > http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/OPA.html > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyfulton/Salute/WWIIrations.html > > http://www.westtexas.tstc.edu/wasp/wasp_articles/ration1.htm > > http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module18/RationingduringWWII.htm > > http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/homefront/conservation.html > > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/1255045/posts > -- Slow. Scroll down. > > Violet Sunderland > mailto:ndloop at sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > From evbarnes at earthlink.net Mon Jan 31 12:16:10 2005 From: evbarnes at earthlink.net (E V Barnes) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:16:10 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s References: <011001c50751$fa808800$8917bf42@Trischa> <00b001c507a8$3a2cc580$6401a8c0@GENE> <004001c507ac$95b23260$4b292a42@Hope> Message-ID: <003401c507d1$b4a15b40$6401a8c0@GENE> HI The also had gathering places for rubber and hundreds of the old rubber tired astrays wound up in the stacks. Aluminum also from various items, including the many cigartte packs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacqueline To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s The stamps that were a struggle for families was "shoes".....I remember one pair dad bought for me, evidentially the soles were made of cardboard made to look like leather, walking a mile to school on gravel in the winter rains, they lasted a week. Dad took the shoes back to the store and somehow got a replacement that lasted the winter months. The stamps were not to be loose when you bought the restricted items, but everyone exchanged for what they didn't use for what was needed. I can still see my grandmother bending over the paper to see what stamp could be used the day we went to the store. What wasn't in the books was also interesting, in order to purchase toothpaste you had to be exchange your used tube to get a new one. Get into town and the whispers were, Mangus has Kleenex, under the counter, so and so store has stockings, under the counter. So you had to ask for the item in order to get it, and that was possible if the clerk liked you or not. Jacqueline jacroing67 at ev1.net ----- Original Message ----- From: E V Barnes To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Every family had one. Butter, Meat, Eggs, Gasoline, shoes hard toget, no vehicles produced fall of 41-46. Gasoline had A, B, C. windshiled stickerthere may have been more. We used to watch the P-38's and P-39's in mock dogfights over the skys of Oakland. Later the Blackwidow could be seen going out in the eveing sky. There were several false alarms. One Jap sub did fire on the southern coast. Did little or no damage. During the middle of the war my father's shop repaired a buick that had been side swiped by the flatbed carrying a minature Jap sub. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trisha Neal To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slugs at gorge.net Mon Jan 31 13:46:25 2005 From: slugs at gorge.net (Richard Smith) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:46:25 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Re: Ration books In-Reply-To: <20050131083707.C6F4A14C2F@sosinet.sos.state.or.us> References: <20050131083707.C6F4A14C2F@sosinet.sos.state.or.us> Message-ID: <8E41A8A2-73D1-11D9-B6DF-003065CCBB70@gorge.net> I still have my ration book, I was 10 when the war started. Each member of the family was issued a book for food. I recall my dad getting a set of tires and some extra gas stamps after lots of trying as we were moving to southern California for work. It's a good thing the speed limit was 35 MPH, as the tires were synthetic rubber and weren't very good. Richard Smith E-mailto:slugs at gorge.net Home page: Http://www.angelfire.com/wa/family/ From whizinc at comcast.net Mon Jan 31 14:12:21 2005 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:12:21 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] OBIT REPORT - The Register-Guard, Eugene, Oregon References: Message-ID: <008801c507e1$efcc3220$0300a8c0@Home> Hi Linda, Would you remind me of what the charge is for looking up obits? Thanks, Ronda Howard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgoodma02 at comcast.net Mon Jan 31 16:17:22 2005 From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net (dgoodma02 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:17:22 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Rationing and shortages circa WW2 Message-ID: <020120050017.21021.41FECA91000090BA0000521D2200735834CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Well I'll throw a few memories in; My Dad worked for Texaco in Tacoma and then Portland. He had a C Stamp for gas and actually had more because he drove all over the NW Supplying oil and gasoline to military and also to Russian Ships. Also Remember the butter shortage? and we got this awful stuff called margarine? and it was white in a plastic bag and you had to break a little yellow pill and then massage the package to make it look like butter. I told my mother I wouldn't eat that stuff and she said "OK". I found out later that she just made margarine into nice bricks like butter and fed it to me and Dad and we didn't know the difference. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- > Trisha; > > Last question first, according to; > http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/war_ration.ht > ml > > every member of the family recieved a "ration book" > > http://www.prewarbuick.com/id389.htm has some more discussion of why > rationing existed. > > I can't find anything online in any detail about the issuing process, they > talk about "proving to the rationing board" that you needed "whatever" and > restrictions, such as you had to swear you only owned 5 tires to get some > ration coupons and that sort of thing. As near as I understand it, everybody > had to have ration coupons, if you didn't a lot of "basics" were denied to > you, or severely limited. > > Any of you that were there might be able to explain this easier than a > "boomer" like me. > > Les C > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trisha Neal > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:02 PM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s > > > Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were > issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to > be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? > Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! > > > Trish > > Coos Bay, OR 97420 > > "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to > harm you. 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URL: From jacroing67 at ev1.net Mon Jan 31 16:33:09 2005 From: jacroing67 at ev1.net (Jacqueline) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:33:09 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Rationing and shortages circa WW2 References: <020120050017.21021.41FECA91000090BA0000521D2200735834CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005a01c507f5$9c3a3710$3e292a42@Hope> Even before the little plastic pills for the coloring of margarine was the plastic pouch that had powdered coloring in it.......One of my grandmothers used the margarine, sold all the cream to the local creamery. Jacqueline ----- Original Message ----- From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: [or-roots] Rationing and shortages circa WW2 Well I'll throw a few memories in; My Dad worked for Texaco in Tacoma and then Portland. He had a C Stamp for gas and actually had more because he drove all over the NW Supplying oil and gasoline to military and also to Russian Ships. Also Remember the butter shortage? and we got this awful stuff called margarine? and it was white in a plastic bag and you had to break a little yellow pill and then massage the package to make it look like butter. I told my mother I wouldn't eat that stuff and she said "OK". I found out later that she just made margarine into nice bricks like butter and fed it to me and Dad and we didn't know the difference. -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired University Place, Washington -------------- Original message -------------- > Trisha; > > Last question first, according to; > http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/war_ration.ht > ml > > every member of the family recieved a "ration book" > > http://www.prewarbuick.com/id389.htm has some more discussion of why > rationing existed. > > I can't find anything online in any detail about the issuing process, they > talk about "proving to the rationing board" that you needed "whatever" and > restrictions, such as you had to swear you only owned 5 tires to get some > ration coupons and that sort of thing. As near as I understand it, everybody > had to have ration coupons, if you didn't a lot of "basics" were denied to > you, or severely limited. > > Any of you that were there might be able to explain this easier than a > "boomer" like me. > > Les C > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trisha Neal > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:02 PM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s > > > Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were > issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to > be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? > Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! > > > Trish > > Coos Bay, OR 97420 > > "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to > harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hai at callatg.com Mon Jan 31 19:07:42 2005 From: hai at callatg.com (Aileen Itzen) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:07:42 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Rationing and shortages circa WW2 In-Reply-To: <005a01c507f5$9c3a3710$3e292a42@Hope> References: <020120050017.21021.41FECA91000090BA0000521D2200735834CDCF0E030B0101090B@comcast.net> <005a01c507f5$9c3a3710$3e292a42@Hope> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050131190118.01b1ca88@pop.callatg.com> In our small community during the war the local general store owner held most of the ration books and if one family needed more of one item and less of another he used those stamps to even things out. It wouldn't have occurred to anyone to distrust him or what he was doing. We lived on a dairy farm so meat was readily available to us. I also learned to can fruits using Karo syrup instead of sugar. I still have some partially used ration books, the leather-like case to keep them in and a couple of wooden tokens which I believe were used as a form of change with the stamps. I remember meat, sugar, shoes (one pair a year), butter, and even liquor where each adult with a liquor card was allowed one fifth of hard liquor per month all being rationed.. Aileen At 04:33 PM 01/31/2005, you wrote: >Even before the little plastic pills for the coloring of margarine was the >plastic pouch that had powdered coloring in it.......One of my >grandmothers used the margarine, sold all the cream to the local creamery. > >Jacqueline > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: dgoodma02 at comcast.net >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:17 PM >Subject: [or-roots] Rationing and shortages circa WW2 > >Well I'll throw a few memories in; My Dad worked for Texaco in Tacoma and >then Portland. He had a C Stamp for gas and actually had more because he >drove all over the NW Supplying oil and gasoline to military and also to >Russian Ships. Also Remember the butter shortage? and we got this awful >stuff called margarine? and it was white in a plastic bag and you had to >break a little yellow pill and then massage the package to make it look >like butter. I told my mother I wouldn't eat that stuff and she said >"OK". I found out later that she just made margarine into nice bricks >like butter and fed it to me and Dad and we didn't know the difference. > >-- >Bob Goodman >USAF Retired >University Place, Washington > >-------------- Original message -------------- > > > Trisha; > > > > Last question first, according to; > > > http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/american/war_ration.ht > > ml > > > > every member of the family recieved a "ration book" > > > > http://www.prewarbuick.com/id389.htm has some more discussion of why > > rationing existed. > > > > I can't find anything online in any detail about the issuing process, they > > talk about "proving to the rationing board" that you needed "whatever" and > > restrictions, such as you had to swear you only owned 5 tires to get some > > ration coupons and that sort of thing. As near as I understand it, > everybody > > had to have ration coupons, if you didn't a lot of "basics" were denied to > > you, or severely limited. > > > > Any of you that were there might be able to explain this easier than a > > "boomer" like me. > > > > Les C > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Trisha Neal > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:02 PM > > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > > Subject: [or-roots] Government Ration Stamps 1940s > > > > > > Is there anyone on the list who knows how Government Ration stamps were > > issued around 1944-1945? Who were they issued to? How old did you have to > > be in order to be issued the stamps? How quickly could they be issued? > > Please contact me offline and I can give you more information. Thanks! > > > > > > Trish > > > > Coos Bay, OR 97420 > > > > "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to > > harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > or-roots mailing list > > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net Mon Jan 31 22:34:28 2005 From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:34:28 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Union Pacific Railroad branch called the Fruitland Express In-Reply-To: <024d01c507cc$1bc62360$8917bf42@Trischa> Message-ID: Trisha; Not sure about this "Fruitland Express" thing, I would swear I have heard chatter on the subject in my Model Railroader Magazines, but online only reference I can find is a web site listing the railroads abbreviation for that line; PFEZ. I have to speculate that the meaning of the name is because it was a major rail carrier to the Fruit growing portion of Southeastern Washington. In case you aren't aware of it, Reith is just west of Pendleton and there appears to be an interchange either in Pendleton or Reith between the Burlington Norther and Union Pacific, BN seems to be headed for Spokane. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Trisha Neal Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:32 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Union Pacific Railroad branch called the Fruitland Express Seeking information on a branch of the Union Pacific Railroad that was called the Fruitland Express that would have run from Eastern Oregon to or through Reith, OR in the 1940s. Thank you! Trish Coos Bay, OR 97420 "For I know the plans that I have for you. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a good future.--Jeremiah 29:11 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1/28/05