[or-roots] Need ideas on where to locate death certificate
Trisha Neal
trisch at charter.net
Thu Oct 6 21:01:03 PDT 2005
Yes! I was helping a friend from Alaska search for her bio parents and went
there to get some obituaries for her. They are very very nice and very very
helpful. Of course, they loved that I had DC #s!!
The date of birth for Mary, per the obit, is December 1867. I had 1863 from
census info. Pending what I find in Salem, I will wait before I write to
Texas for a search. I now have the husband's name and confirmed that she did
own property in Texas.
Thanks for the help!
Trish
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:45 PM
To: or-roots
Subject: RE: [or-roots] Need ideas on where to locate death certificate
In the Archives you can copy the death certificates for 25 cents. The place
of interment should be shown on the death certificate. They are very
helpful and make it very easy, they pull the files and refile them after you
make your copies on a copier. Oops! Guess Mary's is not 50 years old so
guess checking with the mortuary would be best.
Database: Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Waterman, Mary
County:Coos
Death Date:15 Apr 1961
Certificate:4013
Age:93
Database: Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Waterman, John O
County:Curry
Death Date:12 0 1948
Certificate:11101
I would think that Arcanie's death certificate would be a part of her
probate file but if someone checked the normal database for death
certificates it would not show up because she did not die in Texas.
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trisha Neal" <trisch at charter.net>
To: <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: [or-roots] Need ideas on where to locate death certificate
Update:
I found Mary Waterman's obituary in the Coos Bay newspaper for 1961. I am
sure that this is the correct one. She had been living in Harbor, born in
Texas. She was living at Mercy Home for about a year in the Coos Bay area
prior to her death.
I have the name of the mortuary here in Coos Bay so perhaps they may have
more info. I'm not going to assume that she is buried in Coos County. :-)
She had a daughter Mrs. Buelah Keizer of Harbor and a son, Robert McKee of
Lakeport, OR.
I wasn't able to obtain John O. Waterman's obit so will check with the
Brookings library to see if they might be able to look it up. Port Orford is
as far south as the newspapers go here in Coos Bay. Although, I noticed
that the Coos Bay paper mentioned people from other areas, just not John
Waterman.
I contacted the county in Texas today where Arcanie lived. They checked and
there is no death certificate filed there. They only charge $5.00 per
search. i.e. probate search, land search, etc. It might be worth another
search for the probate records.
At this point I'm going to try my luck with the archives in Salem next week.
And if that doesn't work, then I will have to rethink this. I really don't
want to walk the cemetery! :-)
Trish
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:44 PM To:
or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Need ideas on where to locate death certificate
I assume since you are going to Salem that you will be checking at the
Archives. I assume this is the son-in-law. There are several Mary
Watermans on the Oregon Death Index but none with enough information to
identify. If by some chance John Waterman is buried in Crescent City or
someplace it might give you a clue.
Database: Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Waterman, John O
County:Curry
Death Date:12 0 1948
Certificate:11101
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trisha Neal" <trisch at charter.net>
To: <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:36 PM Subject:
RE: [or-roots] Need ideas on where to locate death certificate
LOL Yes....I already knew that. :-) A professional researcher has tried
and could not uncover anything. So this is a last ditch effort. Oh lucky
me! Actually, I enjoy a good mystery! And having spent the past year
intensely on my group of women, this is a great interlude.
I contacted the Curry County Historical Society today and the Del Norte
County Historical Society. Curry County has nothing but that doesn't mean
something couldn't pop up. They will keep my query on file just in case. It
was suggested that perhaps I might check Smith River area. I had thought
about that, too. Just because it said in the newspaper she was buried in
Crescent City doesn't necessarily mean that's what happened. :-)
Del Norte told me that the person who handles those types of queries would
be in tomorrow and my message would be passed on to her. No other thoughts
about where else to look. I was told about the indexing of the cemeteries
and it could be that there simply is not a headstone there to mark her grave
and that is why she is not listed in the book. Although there is supposed
to be a marker because her will made arrangements for one.
One piece I forgot last night is that her daughter's name was Mary Waterman.
She was living in Brookings/Harbor at that time. Her husband was J.O
Waterman and he is listed in the 1920 census as a farmer.
I have to go to the Coos County Library tomorrow to pick up some obits that
they have for me, so will check the newspapers for 1919 and see if anything
might have shown up in our newspapers. Good thought! I did find Marie's
query online. I make a habit of checking to see what has been posted out
there when I am helping someone to make sure that I'm not duplicating steps.
In this case, I'm not sure if I am or not.
If I don't have any luck with Del Norte Hist. Soc. my next stop will be
Salem next Thursday. And after that, I'm not sure what I will do. I may
make a trip to Crescent City to poke around and see what I can find out and
check at Smith River, too. I need to drive down that way on business anyway
so this will be an added incentive.
I have no idea why she was buried in Crescent City. Apparently there wasn't
much happening in Harbor at that time and people went to Crescent City for
the hospital, etc. Why she would be buried in Crescent City is beyond me
unless that was where the closest undertaker was at the time. Sad that the
mortuaries that were open at that time have closed and there's no way to
access their records.
Thanks for checking Les! I'll let you know if I solve the mystery!!
Trish
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:02 PM
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: RE: [or-roots] Need ideas on where to locate death certificate
That is going to be a tough one Trish;
Arcanie Wright Author: Darlene Garrity Date: 2 Aug 2005 1:23 AM GMT
Classification: Query In Reply to: Arcanie Wright by: Marie Bartholomew
Post Reply | Mark Unread Report Abuse Print Message There is a book at
the Humboldt County Library of all the cemeteries in Crescent City and Del
Norte County with a list of all of the graves with a headstone. There is no
one with the last name of Wright in that book.
this is the reply your person got from a query to Del Norte County Gen Soc
Oak Flat cemetery near Agness has the only Wrights buried in Curry county
that I can find online, you might ask your correspondant if these are
family;
WRIGHT, Mort; (1865-1935)
WRIGHT, Nancy; (1870-1933)
I might be able to drum something up from the Coos Bay Library files of old
Newspapers, though I don't think they have much for that far south, if you
don't get any other help in the next month or so remind me, if I get a
chance to go to the Library I will try to post an offer to do queries in
here if I know in advance that I am going.
My first question though is why would she have been buried in Crescent City,
unless she was washed out to sea and found down there??
I guess a search of Crescent City newspaper archives might be the way to go
in that case,.
Les C
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Trisha Neal
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:17 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots] Need ideas on where to locate death certificate
Hi!
I was contacted by a woman in California through Random Act of Kindness for
Genealogy who has been looking for a relative who died in Harbor, OR in
1919. The relative is supposedly buried in Crescent City, CA. She lived in
Texas at the time and was visiting her daughter in Brookings when she died.
I contacted a mortuary in Crescent City last week and he very kindly checked
his records and contacted the cemetery there but could not find a listing
for the woman. Since the mortuaries that were there in 1919 have long been
closed, there is no way to contact them.
The Oregon Death Index and the California Death Index have been checked.
There is no record of her death in either index. Her will was probated in
Texas where she had been living. Texas does not have a death certificate on
file either. (Although you would think that would have been part of the
probate record.)
I know that there are listers from Brookings on this list so I am hoping
that someone may have an idea of who to check with next. I have checked the
info online for the cemeteries in Brookings/Harbor but have not found the
woman there either. Are there any Brookings/Harbor cemeteries that have
been walked but the info is not online?
I am heading to Portland next week and will be stopping at the State
Archives. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated about where else
to check. My last resort is to drive to Crescent City and walk the cemetery
myself to see if I can find her. A last resort, for sure. At least I know
what section to be checking so that eliminates quite a few graves. :-)
The person I am searching information on is: Arcanie (or Arcania) Wright.
She was born November 1846 in Georgia and died August 11, 1919 in Harbor,
with burial in Crescent City.
Thanks for any help or suggestions!
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