[or-roots] Robinson and Smith

Wed Aug 9 15:46:47 PDT 2006

Hi Bonnie,
Welcome to the list and to genealogy.  Many of us are self taught, figuring
things out as we go, then helping others with what we know.  So my best
advice is to check everything for accuracy that you can.  I’ve been looking
on Ancestry.com for your grandparents.  I haven’t found much.  I can find no
family trees with either of them in it.  I’ve found this birth record.
You’ll have to see if it’s the right family.  I could find no Bertha with
the father James and Mother Ella in 1900.

Family Data Collection - Births Record 
about Bertha Robinson 
Name:  Robinson, Bertha  
Father:  Robinson , James William 
Mother:  Turner , Ella Abigail 
Birth Date:  1884
City:  Trenton 
County:  Grundy 
State:  MO 
Country:  USA 

Here is the only Bertha Robinson in Oregon in 1900 born between 1882 and
1886.
1900 United States Federal Census Record 
about Bertha M Robinson 
Name:  Bertha M Robinson
Home in 1900:  Portland Ward 9, Multnomah, Oregon
Age:  17 
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1883 
BirthPlace:  Iowa 
Relationship to head-of-house:  Daughter 
Father's name:  Wm H
Mother's name:  Evangelie
Race:  White 
Occupation:  View Image
Neighbors:
View others on page 
Household Members:
Name
Age
Wm H Robinson  42 
Evangelie Robinson  36 
Bertha M Robinson  17 
Elmer O Robinson  15 

Here are the ones in Missouri.

View Record
Bertha Robinson
Thomas,
Mary
Liberty, Clay, Missouri
abt 1884 
Missouri 
White
Daughter 

View Record
Bertha M Robinson
Lincoln, Daviess, Missouri
abt 1884 
Missouri 
White
Daughter 

View Record
Bertha A Robinson
George,
Mary E
Richwoods, Miller, Missouri
abt 1885 
Missouri 
White
Daughter 

View Record
Bertha Robinson
Concord, Washington, Missouri
abt 1883 
Missouri 
White
Servant 

View Record
Bertha Robinson
John T,
Emma
Union, Worth, Missouri
abt 1884 
Iowa 
White
Daughter 

There are 3786 Bertha Smiths in 1910 in the United States, 33 in Oregon.
Aha!  I think I found them in 1910, Oregon, Multnomah, Linton, District 122.
Irvine is indexed as Swine H Smith.  I can send you this page if you have
high speed cable modem.  Otherwise it takes hours to download if it makes it
at all.  Here’s what the census says:

138, 146 Smith, Irvine H, Head, M W 30 M 7, Can English, Can English, Can
English, English, Foreman, Sawmill

---------, Bertha A, Wife, F W 26 M 7, 1,1, Missouri, Missouri, Missouri,
English, None

---------, Rollie, Son, M W 4 S, Oregon, Can English, Missouri, None

1910 United States Federal Census Record 
about Bertha A Smith 
Name:  Bertha A Smith
Age in 1910:  26
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1884
BirthPlace:  Missouri
Relation to Head of House:  Wife 
Father's Birth Place:  Missouri 
Mother's Birth Place:  Missouri 
Spouses's Name:  Swine H
Home in 1910:  Linton, Multnomah, Oregon
Marital Status:  Married 
Race:  White
Gender:  Female 
Neighbors:
View others on page 
Household Members:
Name
Age
Swine H Smith  30 
Bertha A Smith  26 
Rollie Smith  4 

In 1920 I found a Bertha Smith married to an Irvin in District 119, Oakland,
Alameda, California.  They lived on 1277 Sansal (spelling?) Street.

Smith Irvin, Head, R M W 39 M 1890, can read and write,   Canada English,
Ireland Irish, Wales Welsh, Shipping ???, Shipyards

-------Bertha, Wife,    F W 36 M 1890, can read and write, Missouri,
Missouri, Missouri, none

-------Rahleigh, Son, M W 15 S, in school, can read and write, Oregon,
Canada English, Missouri, none

-------Wayne, Son, M W 9 S, in school, Oregon, Canada English, Missouri,
none

Name:
Bertha Smith
Home in 1920: Oakland, Alameda, California
Age: 36 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
BirthPlace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Wife 
Spouses's Name: Irvin
Father's Birth Place: Missouri 
Mother's Birth Place: Missouri 
Marital status: Married 
Race: White
Sex: Female 
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 846 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members:
Name
Age
Irvin Smith  39 
Bertha Smith  36 
Rahleigh Smith  13 
Wayne Smith  9 

There are 6 Bertha Smiths in 1930, born in Missouri between 1879 and 1889.
None of them had the right kids or husband.  There is one in Los Angeles
that has no one else in the household, if the kids had left the house and
Irvin had died before 1930.

Have a great day.
Ronda

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From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bonnie Combs
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:25 AM
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: RE: [or-roots] Robinson and Smith

Hi, all
I never did anything like this before, so please bear with me.  Besides
being ignorant about genealogy I am a computer dummy, self taught.

My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Bertha Avis Robinson.  She was
born in Missouri in the 1880's, we think in Grundy County.  She married
Irvin Hugh Smith, we think in Portland Oregon (Multnomah County).   I have
searched all the *free* Oregon and Northwestern data banks I can find and
can't locate a marriage certificate, license, or record of any kind.  I can
no longer drive, so that is also a problem.  Irvin Hugh Smith was born in
1880 in Canada, we think in St. Johns Newfoundland, and I can't find him
either.  Haven't  been fighting that so much because of his common name,
hoping to sneak up on him via my grandma.

All your ideas are most welcome.  I would appreciate any help anyone can
give.