[or-roots] Canada-Flynn - Pickett

Thu Feb 23 13:59:13 PST 2006

The marriage license doesn't give anything except the name of the
minister who performed the ceremony, their names and dates etc.

My thought is that Catherine and Daniel were probably cousins and that
is why he came to Minnesota.  I have a lot of first cousins marrying in
my family so it wouldn't have been that unusual.  Another thing is that
Flynn is a very common Irish name.

It wasn't Catherine's grandmother that was the Flynn, it was her mother
Genevieve.  She named her only daughter after her mother.  

Daniel came to Canada when he was only 6 from Ireland.  This would have
been during the famine.  Catherine was born in New Brunswick and I think
that Daniel probably came with his father whose name was also Daniel
Flynn.  On his death certificate it gives his father's name as Daniel
but the name for the mother is "unknown".  I suspect she may have died
when he was born and the family may have never mentioned her name so he
didn't know it or if he did, he never talked about her to his wife or
children.  On most of the census I have seen it gives Catherine's
parents as being born in New Brunswick also.  If Genevieve Flynn the
mother of Catherine was a relative of Daniel Flynn, Sr. it might explain
why he came to Canada first instead of the United States.  I know that
it was cheaper to go to Canada than the US so that may have also been a
factor.

Since Catherine came here when she was only about 3 and Daniel came much
later but they both ended up in Minnesota because that is where they
married.

It is really frustrating to try and find these people.  I have tried
every version of Pickett I could think of and just not luck.

Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:03 PM
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: RE: [or-roots] Canada-Flynn - Pickett

Whoa!  Are you saying that Catherine (Pickett) Flynn, wife of Daniel
Flynn had a grandmother whose maiden name was also Flynn?  (I found that
my grandmother, who provided the information for her father's death
certificate, gave her paternal grandfather as "father" and her maternal
grandmother as "mother" -- so perhaps this is what happened here).

What does the marriage license say?

Interesting that this family lived on Oak Street, Stillwater, MN from at
least 1880 to 1920.  If they were married in 1875 (twenty-five years of
marriage in the 1900 census), is this where you found the marriage
license?

I've spent the morning searching the 1860 and 1870 census for Minnesota
for these folks, to no avail. 

Pat (Flummoxed in Tucson) 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Harguess,
Dale
	Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 09:34
	To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
	Subject: RE: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder 

	Yes, according to Catherine's death certificate her father's
name was Edmund Pickett and her mother's maiden name was Genevieve
Flynn.  I know that she came from New Brunswick Canada but I haven't
been able to find anything on her parents at all.

	Dale

	-----Original Message-----
	From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin
	Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:49 PM
	To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
	Subject: RE: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder 

	Dale

	In the 1920, the first date is the year of immigration -- which
is different for each of them, and the second is the date of
naturalization -- again, different for each. 

	So, based on this, you would look for where Daniel was in 1891,
and Catherine in 1875. Remembering that (a) this may not be correct, and
(b) Catherine would have been naturalized as a child of her father, so
probably no personal naturalization record.   Do we know parent's names?

	A child, Thomas, was born around 1891, in Minnesota. So, I'd be
looking for Naturalization records for Daniel in the county courthouses
there. As to Catherine, we have to find her parents to get this one.

	What does the marriage license say?

	Pat

		-----Original Message-----
		From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Harguess,
Dale
		Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 17:28
		To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
		Subject: RE: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder 

		Sorry it took so long to respond.

		What I need to be clear on is the first date in the
parentheses the year they came to the states and is the year after the
NA the year they were supposedly naturalized?  I have never been able to
find Catherine's parents or her before her marriage to Daniel.  I did
find him when he was single and living with a family named Casey when he
was in his early 20's.

		So here is what I found

		 Year: 1920; Census Place: Stillwater Ward 2,
Washington, Minnesota; Roll: T625_866; Page: 7A; Enumeration District:
185; Image: 998.
		602 Oak Street
		150/175 Flynn, Daniel Head (owns home, free of mortgage)
m w 72 m (1862 NA 1891) Ireland/Eng Ireland/Eng Ireland/Eng Pilot on a
Steam Boat
		Flynn, Catherine, wife f w 63 m (1858 NA 1875)
Canada/Eng Canada/Eng Canada/Eng

		Year: 1910; Census Place: 2-Wd Stillwater, Washington,
Minnesota; Series: T624; Roll: 730; Page: 218A; Enumeration District:
182; Part: 2; Line: 13.
		606 Oak Street 178/196 Flynn, Daniel Head m w 62 m1 25
Ireland Ireland Ireland Imm 1872 (or 1862, hard to read) Na English
River Pilot
		Catherine wife f w 53 m1 25 5/5 Canada/Eng Canada/Eng
Canada/Eng imm 1860
		Genevive daughter f w 22 S Minnesota Ireland/O Canada/E
Stenographer Office
		Seldon son m 2 19 S Minnesota Ireland/O Canada/E Book on
River Boat
		Daniel m w 15 S Minnesota Ireland/O Canada/E none

		Year: 1900; Census Place: Stillwater Ward 2, Washington,
Minnesota; Roll: T623 796; Page: 16B; Enumeration District: 45.
		606 West Oak Street 285/328 Flyn Daniel Head w m April
1847 53 m 25 Ireland Ireland Ireland 186[3?5?] 35 (yrs in US) Na Captain
on Boat
		Katherin [B?] wife w f July 1855 44 m 25 5/5 Canada/E
Canada/E Canada/E 1857 43
		Edmund [W?] son w m Apr 1878 22 S Minnesota Ireland
Canada/E Raftsman
		Harry J. Son w m May 1880 20 S Minnesota Ireland
Canada/E Fireman on Boat
		Genevieve daughter w f June 1887 12 S Minnesota Ireland
Canada/E At School
		Thomas S. Son w m Sept 1891 9 S Minnesota Ireland
Canada/E
		Daniel R. Son w m [Mar?] 1895 5  Ireland Canada/E

		Based on the date listed in 1920, which indicates he was
naturalized in 1891, and the fact that Thomas S. was born in Stillwater
in Sept of 1891, according to the 1900 census, I'd be checking in the
Washington County, MN for the naturalization papers. 

		I've only done one or two naturalizations, and found
them in county courthouse records, so am not the expert here. Perhaps
you could begin at the http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnwashin/ to get some
names of people and courthouses.

		Good luck.

		Pat

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