[or-roots] Netherlands and Prussian research

[Ronda Howard]

Hi Bernie or anyone familiar with Dutch and German research,
I'm needing some help with research in the Netherlands.  My husband's great great grandfather Martin deBeer immigrated from that area in 1855.  At least two of Martin's four children also immigrated.  Family lore says we are from The Netherlands.  However the census says Martin and Edzart were born in Prussia.  I emailed someone familiar with Germany at the time.  He said since the oldest child is named Edzart it is likely they came from the Groningen (Spelling?) area just Northeast (I think) of The Netherlands.  I believe they had a Count Edzart a few hundred years ago.  Martin deBeer was born January 1821.  His son Edzart was born December 1, 1849.  I can't find Martin or his wife Johanna anywhere in the 1860 census.  In 1870 they are in Chicago Illinois.

Any suggestions or assistance would be gratefully received!
Ronda
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bernard Verbout 
  To: or-roots 
  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:34 AM
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     I have come to a blank wall in trying to locate some immigration information on my Grandfather and Grandmother who came to the United States in 1888(?) from Poland. Their names are: Michael and Josephine Safranski. What I do have is that he may be from Warsaw and she may have been born in Krakow. I believe they first went to Illinois and then to Minnesota. I do not have access to any Census Records but it seems as though they should be on 1910, 1920 and 1930 census records. I do not know all the info that are on the census forms but possibly there could be some clues. I have been pretty successful on the Verbout side of the family because I still have relatives in The Netherlands and my wife's parents. Her Mother came from Croatia and her Father came from Slovenia. Visited her relatives in Croatia during the Bosnian war and obtained some information but have not been very successful obtaining info on her Father. 
          Hope you can help. 
                                         Thanks, Bernie
                                   


  Bernard Verbout
  beachbumbernie at earthlink.net
  EarthLink Revolves Around You.

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