[or-roots] Brickwalls redux

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Sun Mar 19 18:38:38 PST 2006


Gary
Amen to the sharing, I had to delete my Family Tree website as a relative that I did not have contact with or know how to contact, objected to her side of the family being on my website.
Glen

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Glen A. Jones

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From: "Gary Murray" <gmurray1 at cox.net> 

> i am one of the fortunate ones. my hutchinson line was a brick wall for 
> about 25 yrs. then out of the b lue 3 very nice ladies filled me in on this 
> line. now this was a line that a distant cousin of mine had all the time. 
> he lived in seattle. he would not share anything. i am such a believer in 
> sharing everything that i have. i sent a lady most all of my bonney line 
> back to adam and eve and she either gave it or sold it to ancestry.com. all 
> of a sudden it was all over the internet. i just didn't care. if she 
> gleaned all there was for her out of it then to me it was worth it. i have 
> spent hundreds of dollars to see if i could get my data and all the pics i 
> have out to anyone that wanted them. i will continue to do so. my 
> hutchinson line went back to elijah dow hutchinson and his birth in 1824 in 
> ohio. that is all i had and now thanks to those ladies i have a ton of data 
> and charts and a little of everything. i have been in az. 4 years and i 
> hope to return to oregon this year where i can continue to research and give 
> my time. i personally would like to see everyone do this about once a year. 
> if each person finds one male in their line and only half find wives w/ 
> maiden names, just stop and think how many of us that would benefit. i have 
> every child of jarius and dr. truman bonney. on dr. truman that is as far 
> as i cared to go since it is jarius who is my direct. these people had 
> 12-14 children and most of them married. same goes for elijah d. 
> hutchinson. i do remember the stories on most of these people but i turned 
> down thousands of pics because they were not my direct line. i have always 
> felt that more people need to "share" rather than worry about giving away 
> their hard work. [just my personal opinion] at the moment my gene. program 
> will not allow me to copy anything to paper or disk. but when its fixed, 
> after i move, then all are welcome to anything i have. i have found a 
> copying place that will do the pics. all i have ever asked is that i am 
> paid for my outlay of cash. soma do and soma don't. 
> gary in az. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leslie Chapman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:44 PM 
> Subject: [or-roots] Brickwalls redux 
> 
> 
> >I can understand your frustration Karla, but just let me give you an 
> >example 
> > of why mosts lists like to do this little thing, even though it drives a 
> > lot 
> > of folks nuts who have signed up, often without realizing they have 
> > volunteered to recieve unspecified quantities of email from total 
> > strangers 
> > [and boy are some of us strange] in their inbox. 
> > 
> > Mosts lists call it simply "Roll Call" the Wheeler list which is another 
> > list I am on that has historically been very active though has been slow 
> > of 
> > late, as much as a week going by without a post, as opposed to my Pierce 
> > list which was dissolved because the host refused to allot space to a list 
> > that only got a post every year or two. 
> > 
> > My point is that there may be a Newbie out there who is sitting on their 
> > grand-dad's diary that they just happened to look at last week again and 
> > wondered who the heck all of thos John Smiths were in Podunk that came to 
> > Boring with grandpa, now if it happens to be John smith, John Smith Jr. 
> > and 
> > John Smith the third from Podunk that moved to Boring with "your grandpa" 
> > and you posted that question last year and Mr Newbie isn't curious enough 
> > about these folks to do a google or whatever on them, the two of you might 
> > not connect, but if Mr Newbie has been lurking here for the last three 
> > months and you repost your John Smiths and the name resonate with him 
> > enough 
> > for him to dig out the diary and reread it, you might have the proverbial 
> > "Gold Mine" 
> > 
> > My personal brick wall is who was the Mrs Barnes that nursed my great 
> > grandfather Milan Morell Melvin through an epidemic on the Wagon Train to 
> > Wherever the heck they first came to (first inof we have hard knowedge is 
> > thier residing in Del Norte Co Cal, but no wagon train terminus near 
> > there??) 
> > 
> > But back to my story [now you can see why every tiime I open my mouth at 
> > family gatherings somebody stuffs my foot in it] 
> > I came on here a year or two ago in answer to a similar complaint about 
> > why 
> > repost and I threw out one of my dead ends by example, just like the above 
> > Mrs Barnes story and one of the people on the list googled my question and 
> > there was my answer. Of course I could have gotten that one myself, but I 
> > had Googled and dogpiled and ship listed and etc the same problem for 
> > hours 
> > and hours over a period of years and come up blank. 
> > 
> > This of course isn't the best example of why we should have a "roll call" 
> > now and then, but I think you can see my point, I was totally frustrated 
> > with that particular fact, had in fact given up on it over a year before 
> > and 
> > just threw it out there as an example of how frustrating some things can 
> > be 
> > and was kindly handed a large helping of crow so to speak. 
> > 
> > So by all means, repost that question, the other thing you have to 
> > consider 
> > is that some of us have resources that we are either too busy or too lazy 
> > to 
> > use except on whim, and maybe all of us missed you previous post, or were 
> > too busy, but maybe you can catch us with free time, which it looks like I 
> > have a lot of but actually don't because wifey has been hovering in the 
> > background wiht a list of honeydos since I got on here this morning, but 
> > if 
> > you post it, I promise within a week I will take a stab at it. 
> > 
> > Les C 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
> > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of 
> > karfranw at juno.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:28 AM 
> > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
> > Subject: Re: [or-roots] OREGON ONLY NAMES AND BRICK WALLS 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello, the above idea, is all well and good, I agree. But, some members 
> > of 
> > my family have already done research on the family name, and have hit 
> > brickwalls no matter where they search. And as far as when this errant 
> > antecedent of ours reached Oregon, it is anyone's guess. I could tell you 
> > the story but already submitted that when I first subscribed to this 
> > list. 
> > My brothers and I have come to a conclusion, the old guy was lying through 
> > his teeth about 
> > his name, because of circumstances. We don't have a clue as to what to do 
> > now. 
> > 
> > Sincerely, 
> > 
> > Karla (Gray) Williams 
> > 
> > 
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