[or-roots] Diamond Ranch, Oregon

Cuprum4445 at aol.com Cuprum4445 at aol.com
Wed Aug 20 09:03:10 PDT 2008


Glen
You are so right that these photos should be found.  You've mentioned  all 
the places I can think of looking.  I'll stay alert on this subject and  let you 
know if I learn anything.  It's good you've written Mike Hanley -  maybe 
he'll know what happened to Mrs. Adams things.  He stays on top of  things in 
eastern Oregon and western Idaho.  We toured Mildretta Adams'  wonderful museum in 
Silver City many years ago and found her  delightful.  I've never been to 
Grandview - we'll have to take in that  museum sometime.  Those folks in Murphy 
are good at preservation and would  have told you if they knew where those 
pictures are.  I'll spread the word  that you want to know where Mildretta Adams' 
pictures are and let you know if I  find anything, but don't hold your breath. 
 
Gerrie
 
 
In a message dated 8/20/2008 9:48:24 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Gerrie
One bad thing on Mildretta's book Owyee Cattlemen, is no one seems to  know 
what happened to her things after she passed away, none of her  manuscripts 
were found, a number of people have inquired of the publisher  about copies of 
photos from the book, we are hoping they have not been thrown  away but are 
stored somewhere and hope to locate them, so that those who would  like copies of 
the photos can get them and the publisher would like to  republish the book.
The Burns Library and Historical Socity are looking, as well as the  Museum 
at Murphy, and I have someone checking the museum at Grandview  where 
everything from the Silver City Museum was moved, I have also sent a  letter to Mike 
Hanley.
The Idaho Historical Society has nothing, that they can find  anyway.
It would be a terrible loss to Genealogy and History if these photos  and 
data are lost.
Glen Jones Portland 
 
--
Glen A. Jones
 

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Glen
I'm glad your ancestor has received proper credit in some history  books.  I 
probably saw the Robie name when we took a loop tour of  the Malheur Wildlife 
Refuge last year and and went to see the Diamond  area.  My sister-in-law's 
sister-in-law (that's not a typo!)  works at the Diamond Hotel.  The bird museum 
there is wonderful, but  not as well kept as it used to be.  We stopped at a 
store on that  loop that has ranch related articles and lots of good western  
books.  
 
In 1980, my father-in-law gave us Mildretta Adams' book: "Owyhee  Cattlemen 
1878 - 1978, 199 Years In The Saddle."  I just now pulled it  from my bookshelf 
& found good information on A. H. Robie on page  189, along with the ranch 
photo. Eastern Oregonians will always be  grateful to Mildretta Adams and Mike 
Hanley for putting our side of Oregon  down on paper for posterity.  These 
authors show a passion  for our history. 
 
My father-in-law, Don Stults was born in La Grande and moved with  his family 
to Jordan Valley in 1917 to homestead on the dry land high  desert.  The last 
of that family sold the ranch a few years ago, but we  had one fun family 
reunion there some time ago, while all but one  of the siblings was living.  One 
of the aunties said  that 10 acres of Treasure Valley soil produced much 
better than 100  acres of the Jordan Valley homestead.  You can't beat the Jordan 
Valley  people and boy do they turn out for a former J. V. person's funeral!
 
That Murphy, Idaho Museum and book store is a good one.   We went there this 
year, and we couldn't resist buying Mike  Hanley's newer book - it's at our 
cabin now, and I can't  remember it's name.  Mike's other passion is  
researching & acurately restoring old stage coaches.  He  drives them in parades and has 
participated in wagon train  recreations.  Mike's an amazing guy.
 
Gerrie
 
Gerrie
 
 
In a message dated 8/20/2008 7:42:54 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Gerrie
Just to set the record straight, a number of history books for the  area have 
the correct info on the Diamond Area, I also have copies of the  probate 
records thanks to Sandy Flory, Oregon geographic names when the  8th edition comes 
out will have corrected information about the Diamond  Area and Ft. (Camp) 
Harney also.
Glen
 
--
Glen A. Jones
 

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From: Cuprum4445 at aol.com 
It's frustrating when history gets recorded wrong, especially  about our 
families.  People quote poorly researched histories,  without citing primary 
sources, and they're trusted by people.  We  genealogists know to check original 
sources, but it's hard to change  written "histories."  I don't know of any way 
of setting records  straight, other than writing our own family history  and 
incorporating our documentation.  Even if we do that  though, our books 
wouldn't be read by very many people.   

Glen should be able to obtain land records to prove his ancestor  Albert Hugh 
Robie was Mace McCoy's partner in the Diamond Ranch  endeavor.  I'm sure I've 
heard the Robie name in connection with  Harney County history before.  We've 
been to the Diamond area and  we were pleased to learn from Glen how the area 
got it's name from the  cattle brand.  There might be an old cattle brand 
book in Harney  County showing the Diamond brand and it's owners.
 
How can we correct mistakes in history?  What do you listers  suggest we do 
with situations like Glen's  problem?         Gerrie
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/17/2008 5:18:54 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

For all that may be interested the history on the Diamond hotel  is not 
entirely correct, Mace McCoy was a partner of my Great  Grandfather Albert Hugh 
Robie,Albert bought out Mace and was selling  to Pete French when he died, he was 
one of the men with Pete French  and his cowhands when attacked by the 
Bannocks at the start of that  war, the Diamond was the cattle brand that Mace and 
Albert Had and  that is where the Diamond area gets it's name.
Glen
 
--
Glen A. Jones
 

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From: Cuprum4445 at aol.com 
Glen,  This link tells about the current Hotel Diamond at  Diamond, Oregon, 
near Burns:
_Diamond  Hotel in the heart of the Steens Mountain and Malheur area of  
Eastern Oregon_ (http://www.central-oregon.com/hoteldiamond/history.html) 
You might write the owners to see if they can help you find the  pictures you 
desire.
There is also a museum in Burns that might be able to help  you.
Gerrie 
 
 
In a message dated 8/11/2008 12:08:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight  Time, 
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Hope listers may be able to help.
This past week I was in Idaho and picked up a book at the  Owyhee County 
Historical Society,
Titled "Owyhee Cattlemen 1878-1978 100 years in the Saddle"  By Mildretta 
Adams Publisher "Owyhee Publishing" Homedale Idaho,  the book had a photo of my 
Great Grandfathers Ranch at Diamond  Oregon near Burns, (A. H. Robie Diamond 
Ranch).
The Publisher and the Owyhee County Historical Society have  no idea what 
happened to the photos after Mildretta passed away  and many people includeing 
myself have inquired about copies of  some of the photos in the book, all would 
like to know what  happened to the photos or if someone has them, I have sent  
this same message on the Idaho Genweb, if anyone knows about these  photos 
contact the publisher or me, it would be a big loss to  history and genealogy if 
these photos are lost.
Mildretta was a Author and Curator of the Silver City Idaho  Museum until her 
death.
 
Glen Jones Portland, Oregon
_glenkc7mbm at comcast.net_ (mailto:glenkc7mbm at comcast.net) 
 
--
Glen A.  Jones


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