[or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 24, Issue 1
JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:38:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [or-roots] more census whining
Les-
My family seems to have some of the same monkey business going on too - like
deciding one year to report GG Grandma's dad as Scottish rather than Irish,
erasing any clues to having German origins even though the neighbors said
the accent was so pronounced in the oldest generation that there was
little doubt that their parents came across the Atlantic.
During the WW's it definitely wasn't fashionable to be to closely tied to
the Fatherland by birth - sentiments may be stirred against the US. The
Japanese were interred along those lines of thinking. We're not much better
now either if you'll recall some of the reactions to people who looked like
"Arabs" after 9-11.
I read an explanation that at times the enumerator couldn't catch people at
home and would fill in whatever the neighbors could supply. The town wag
could have a field day. All in all it's amazing just how much "Good" info
can be gleaned from the data though. People I talk to about the upcoming
census are overwhelming of the mind that it is a head count and nothing
beyond that is anybodies business - don't fill in the blanks - the less
'They' know the better off I am. And I thought the Genealogy thing had a
widespread following...
Ingrid
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] gravestone photos to take
The cemetery in Ashland is the Hargadine Cemetery. Bob Casebeer, Talent
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>I don't speak up to often but I have never seen any mention of cemeteries
>in
> Lake County, Lakeview has two and I would think there would be some in
> the
> surrounding area . There is one I believe in Josephine County in
> the Applegate area called the Missouri Flat Cemetery very old - some of
> my
> Miller family donated the land for it . Also there is a smaller one on
> the left before you get to the Missouri Flat Cemetery .
> Does anyone know of a cemetery in Ashland that is on or near the top of
> a
> hill ? I have been trying to find the grave of Frank Bauers Sr. died
> about 1912 I think. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
> Charlotte
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:14 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
This is on ebay until Apr-03-09 11:58:06 PDT
1961 Napa, Oregon - City Directory by Polk & Company Publishers
Napa is in Napa County, Oregon.
This directory also includes Calistoga, St. Helena, Oakville, Rutherford and
Yountville.
This is a 6 1/4 x 9 1/4 x 2 3/8 inches hardbound directory published by The
R.L. Polk & Company Publishers, Los Angeles, CA.
Picture shows spine, which has shelf wear, and corners are bent and scuffed.
The binding and spine are somewhat loose, and there is reinforcement tape on
the first page and Index page, but all the pages are intact. The pages are
flat and clean, and in good shape, except for normal age and dirt
discoloring. To my knowledge there are no missing pages. There is no water
or mildew damage. This book is over 45 years old, but it is in good
condition. All data is very readable.
This directory contains an Alphabetical Directory of Business Concerns and
Private citizens; a directory of Householders, Occupants of Office
Buildings and Other Business Places; Including a Complete Street and Avenue
Guide; and Much Information of a Miscellaneous Character; a Numerical
Telephone Directory; also the Yellow Pages with a Special Advertising
Section and a Complete Classified List.
Wives names are listed with husbands, the name of the wife is shown in ( )
following the husband's name. In case of a widow by death, whenever possible
the name of the deceased husband is shown in ( ). The occupation and place
of employment is listed. Names in bold type denote advertisers. Ownership or
co-ownership of a firm is indicated by showing the individual's name in ( )
following the firm name. The head of the house is indicated by h preceding
the street address; other members of the family and roomers are indicated by
r preceding the street address.
Starting bid is $16.95, and will cost $3.95 for shipping within the
Continental United States, and includes delivery confirmation. Insurance is
$2.95 extra, and is totally your choice. We cannot be responsible for Post
Office mistakes. The best way to protect you bid is to purchase insurance.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Napa-Oregon-1961-Polks-City-Directory-Rare_W0QQitemZ2903
06468751QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item290306468751&_trksid=
p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1240%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C
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From: dsam52 at sampubco.com
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:19:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
There is no Napa County In Oregon at all.
It's California. Those cities are in Napa County, California.
David Samuelsen
> This is on ebay until Apr-03-09 11:58:06 PDT
>
> 1961 Napa, Oregon - City Directory by Polk & Company Publishers
>
> Napa is in Napa County, Oregon.
>
> This directory also includes Calistoga, St. Helena, Oakville, Rutherford
> and
> Yountville.
>
> This is a 6 1/4 x 9 1/4 x 2 3/8 inches hardbound directory published by
> The
> R.L. Polk & Company Publishers, Los Angeles, CA.
>
> Picture shows spine, which has shelf wear, and corners are bent and
> scuffed.
> The binding and spine are somewhat loose, and there is reinforcement tape
> on
> the first page and Index page, but all the pages are intact. The pages are
> flat and clean, and in good shape, except for normal age and dirt
> discoloring. To my knowledge there are no missing pages. There is no water
> or mildew damage. This book is over 45 years old, but it is in good
> condition. All data is very readable.
>
> This directory contains an Alphabetical Directory of Business Concerns
> and
> Private citizens; a directory of Householders, Occupants of Office
> Buildings and Other Business Places; Including a Complete Street and
> Avenue
> Guide; and Much Information of a Miscellaneous Character; a Numerical
> Telephone Directory; also the Yellow Pages with a Special Advertising
> Section and a Complete Classified List.
>
> Wives names are listed with husbands, the name of the wife is shown in ( )
> following the husband's name. In case of a widow by death, whenever
> possible
> the name of the deceased husband is shown in ( ). The occupation and place
> of employment is listed. Names in bold type denote advertisers. Ownership
> or
> co-ownership of a firm is indicated by showing the individual's name in (
> )
> following the firm name. The head of the house is indicated by h preceding
> the street address; other members of the family and roomers are indicated
> by
> r preceding the street address.
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From: Broad1000 at aol.com
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:20:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
I'm probably the first but certainly not the last to correct the message
below. I learned all 36 counties in Oregon during the 4th grade and there
was no Napa County. It is and has been always in California as well as all
the cities referenced.
Joanne Broadhurst
In a message dated 3/31/2009 12:57:42 P.M. Hawaiian Standard Time,
whizinc at comcast.net writes:
This is
on ebay until Apr-03-09 11:58:06 PDT
1961 Napa, Oregon - City
Directory by Polk & Company Publishers
Napa is in Napa County,
Oregon.
This directory also includes Calistoga, St. Helena, Oakville,
Rutherford and
Yountville.
This is a 6 1/4 x 9 1/4 x 2 3/8 inches
hardbound directory published by The
R.L. Polk & Company Publishers,
Los Angeles, CA.
Picture shows spine, which has shelf wear, and
corners are bent and scuffed.
The binding and spine are somewhat loose, and
there is reinforcement tape on
the first page and Index page, but all the
pages are intact. The pages are
flat and clean, and in good shape, except
for normal age and dirt
discoloring. To my knowledge there are no missing
pages. There is no water
or mildew damage. This book is over 45 years old,
but it is in good
condition. All data is very readable.
This
directory contains an Alphabetical Directory of Business Concerns
and
Private citizens; a directory of Householders, Occupants of
Office
Buildings and Other Business Places; Including a Complete Street and
Avenue
Guide; and Much Information of a Miscellaneous Character; a
Numerical
Telephone Directory; also the Yellow Pages with a Special
Advertising
Section and a Complete Classified List.
Wives
names are listed with husbands, the name of the wife is shown in (
)
following the husband's name. In case of a widow by death, whenever
possible
the name of the deceased husband is shown in ( ). The occupation
and place
of employment is listed. Names in bold type denote advertisers.
Ownership or
co-ownership of a firm is indicated by showing the
individual's name in ( )
following the firm name. The head of the house is
indicated by h preceding
the street address; other members of the family
and roomers are indicated by
r preceding the street
address.
Starting bid is $16.95, and will cost $3.95
for shipping within the
Continental United States, and includes delivery
confirmation. Insurance is
$2.95 extra, and is totally your choice. We
cannot be responsible for Post
Office mistakes. The best way to protect you
bid is to purchase
insurance.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Napa-Oregon-1961-Polks-City-Directory-Rare_W0QQitemZ2903
06468751QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item290306468751&_trksid=
p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1240%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:11:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
This is pretty
funny. I will send a message to the ebay seller.
Ronda
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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Broad1000 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:21
PM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re:
[or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory
Rare
I'm probably the first but certainly not the last to correct the message
below. I learned all 36 counties in Oregon during the 4th grade and there
was no Napa County. It is and has been always in California as well as all
the cities referenced.
Joanne Broadhurst
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From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:55:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] more census whining
I too have a bit of a similar census "thing" - where my great grandmother divorced in 1903 after 25 years of marriage and five kids (as per divorce records Oregon State Archives), and married her cousin who was at least 20 years younger than she was. Admittedly, in her second marriage photo, she is one good looking, and happy woman! But I'm still not quite clear on her actual birth date in Missouri, and her age keeps changing in the census records I have found.
Paulette
-----Original Message-----
>From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
>Sent: Mar 31, 2009 9:29 AM
>To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>Subject: Re: [or-roots] more census whining
>
>Pat;
>
>The neighbor or whoever certainly can foul things up, but I believe the
>examples I cited were deliberate obfuscation on the part of my kin or near
>kin, the aging for example I am pretty sure was a case of a cradle robbing
>woman who was embarrassed, or the husband was to admit she married a man
>half her age. Even in our so called enlightened times that is cause for
>comment. I remember a conversation my nephew who was my twin and I had once
>about his sister who married a much older man and how stupidly we didn't
>realize the friend who was with us when we had that conversation might have
>been offended since his wife was almost twenty years older than him. I think
>part of our stupidity was that she was so hot that the age difference
>wasn't near as significant to us as our jealousy of his "circumstances."
>
>And the family of my neice were hill people from Tennesee and I suspect that
>the Census taker to them was akin to a "revnoor." If I find problems with a
>family in one year I usually figure it is the person responding not having
>the correct info. For example one of the folks I've been chasing in
>Wisconsin reports his parents as b in NY and Pennsylvania. Actually his
>mother was a Canadian, but she died when he was about two and his
>step-mother joined the family when he was 6, so by the time he was reporting
>his data to the Census taker he might very well not have even realized the
>woman who raised him wasn't his mother. Back in the good old days (before I
>reached adulthood) it was considered "best for the children" to keep them
>ignorant of such things.
>
>But the folks from the hills I follow from 1860 to 1920 and the main clue I
>have that I am following the same clan is the numbers of children, the fact
>that they never move and the fact that their surname is so odd that no
>matter what they do to it, it still stands out on the page. They were
>Teffetellers as I have them in my family file, but about all some of the
>years have in common with some others is starting with a "T", having the f
>sound; a couple of time they are Teph what ever and having an l somewhere
>after the f sound. I think they vary from two to five sylables and the only
>thing missing was noone ever indexed them or recorded them with an F at the
>beginning. Of course some of the variation is simply ignorance or
>indiffereance, but with these folks I am pretty sure it was deliberate,
>there was just too many wild variations to be anything but deliberate.
>
>My favorite ignorance story was right here at home with my great grandfather
>who was Milan Melvin and his next door neighbor got one vowel right Milen
>Milven. I never did figure that out on LDS index and only when I scanned the
>film did I find them.
>
>And in the final analysis I am sure a lot of the "wrong" information is just
>simple expediency; in spite of the rather serious penalty for falsifying the
>info I am sure the person responsible often found where they had not gotten
>some info, or had not clearly recorded it or whatever and just made it up
>either by assuming since the oldest and youngest child were born in the same
>state, they all were which is what I find in one of my censuses, the problem
>is he was railroad man and his two middle children were born in two other
>states. And the person reporting it may just "make it up" to get rid of the
>census taker; if you've got 8 children under the age of ten under foot, your
>husband and the threshing crew are going to expect dinner on the table
>promptly at 1:00 pm and you have some idiot with a form asking personal
>questions about where you, he, his two brothers, one Uncle and third cousin
>and four hired hands are from and where their parents are from, are you
>gonna agonize over the right answer or tell him something just to get rid of
>him?
>
>I would bet that scenario had a lot to do with a lot of misinformation. I
>have one census in Del Norte I am pretty sure the mother-in-law answered the
>questions, all the parents were born the same place hers were which wasn't
>even close to the truth for anyone but her daughter. She didn't even report
>her husbands birthplace correctly. I don't remember for sure, but I suspect
>that was probably some of my Irish Kin as that was NOT a popular place to be
>from around 1900.
>
>This is why we arent's "supposed" to fill in the blanks from census records,
>but just use them as guidelines and why when i violate that rule as I
>regularly do I always try to remember to not it in each persons record. I've
>only been seriously burned that way once where I ultimately figured out that
>a whole family group I put together from Census records were in no way
>related to the people I wanted. It was such a lovely situation too, I had
>the wife's parents and three or four children and followed them for 20 or
>thirty years and it all fell apart when I found the husband I thought I was
>following with a different wife and his widowed mother in California where
>he had been the whole time. That is the penalty for having so many gypsies
>in my bloodline, it is so rare to find a family in the same county in two
>consecutive censuses that when I find them actually living in the same house
>I am flabbergasted.
>
>Les C
>
>
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From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:57:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory REALLY REALLY Rare
Don't feel bad Ronda, it got past me too, I think I was thinking of Nampa
Idaho as a place name and didn't catch the fact that it was also Napa County
which I am pretty sure I would have caught. Just double checked and USGS and
McArthur agree that we don't have anything in Oregon named Napa.
Les C
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Steve &
Ronda Howard
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:11 PM
To: 'or-roots mail list'
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
This is pretty funny. I will send a message to the ebay seller.
Ronda
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
Broad1000 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:21 PM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
I'm probably the first but certainly not the last to correct the message
below. I learned all 36 counties in Oregon during the 4th grade and there
was no Napa County. It is and has been always in California as well as all
the cities referenced.
Joanne Broadhurst
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To: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com; or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:18:24 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] magical aging
Paulette;
It sounds like she might not be in MO vital records, have you tried the
index;
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/birthdeath/
I usually strike out there, even with some of my 20th century folk, but I
have also pulled a couple of records from way before I had any hope of
finding anything, I think the early stuff is just indexes?/
But even those help me fill in the blanks, when I am dealing with cousins of
in-laws of cousins I don't really care to do more than have something.
les
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Paulette
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:56 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] more census whining
I too have a bit of a similar census "thing" - where my great grandmother
divorced in 1903 after 25 years of marriage and five kids (as per divorce
records Oregon State Archives), and married her cousin who was at least 20
years younger than she was. Admittedly, in her second marriage photo, she is
one good looking, and happy woman! But I'm still not quite clear on her
actual birth date in Missouri, and her age keeps changing in the census
records I have found.
Paulette
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From: whizinc at comcast.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:35:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon or Knappa Oregon? =)
Thanks Les,
My brother did date a girl from Knappa, OR (just outside of Astoria).
Ronda
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie
Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:58 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory REALLY
REALLY Rare
Don't feel bad Ronda, it got past me too, I think I was thinking of Nampa
Idaho as a place name and didn't catch the fact that it was also Napa County
which I am pretty sure I would have caught. Just double checked and USGS and
McArthur agree that we don't have anything in Oregon named Napa.
Les C
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Steve &
Ronda Howard
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:11 PM
To: 'or-roots mail list'
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
This is pretty funny. I will send a message to the ebay seller.
Ronda
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
Broad1000 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:21 PM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
I'm probably the first but certainly not the last to correct the message
below. I learned all 36 counties in Oregon during the 4th grade and there
was no Napa County. It is and has been always in California as well as all
the cities referenced.
Joanne Broadhurst
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:52:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon or Knappa Oregon? =)
That might help explain why I didn't miss the m that is in Nampa, I know I
was thinking Eastern Oregon border town when I glanced at the original post
and the old brain cells are rusted up enough for me to confuse the two
names. I haven't been in every community in Oregon, but I haven't missed too
many of them, even some that no longer exist.
So it goes.
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Steve &
Ronda Howard
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:36 PM
To: 'or-roots mail list'
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon or Knappa Oregon? =)
Thanks Les,
My brother did date a girl from Knappa, OR (just outside of Astoria).
Ronda
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie
Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:58 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory REALLY
REALLY Rare
Don't feel bad Ronda, it got past me too, I think I was thinking of Nampa
Idaho as a place name and didn't catch the fact that it was also Napa County
which I am pretty sure I would have caught. Just double checked and USGS and
McArthur agree that we don't have anything in Oregon named Napa.
Les C
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Steve &
Ronda Howard
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:11 PM
To: 'or-roots mail list'
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
This is pretty funny. I will send a message to the ebay seller.
Ronda
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
Broad1000 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:21 PM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ebay: Napa, Oregon 1961 Polks City Directory Rare
I'm probably the first but certainly not the last to correct the message
below. I learned all 36 counties in Oregon during the 4th grade and there
was no Napa County. It is and has been always in California as well as all
the cities referenced.
Joanne Broadhurst
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From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:03:01 -0400
Subject: Re: [or-roots] magical aging
Many thanks for this link, Les. Could not find her, although I found births for the kids of her brother and his wife in Linn Co., MO. Will have to check my notes and records - perhaps I'm totally off and she was not born in MO. I know she married first in Linn Co., MO, but could not find that record yet either.
I've been searching the Marion County ORGen Web site - wow is that a good one. Took me a while to figure it out, but I found the information on the burial of my Grandfather Samuel's younger brother John Sumner (1890 MO-1926 OR), whose Lee Mission Cemetery gravestone photo had been previously mentioned - he died in 1926 in Salem while saving a boy from drowning. There ought to be press on that, I would think, so will have to check into that.
Dr. Dick Straw is a cool volunteer guy at the Oregon State Library, and maybe he can help me with that...
Paulette
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>From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
>Sent: Mar 31, 2009 10:18 PM
>To: Paulette <pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com>, or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>Subject: [or-roots] magical aging
>
>Paulette;
>
>It sounds like she might not be in MO vital records, have you tried the
>index;
>
>http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/birthdeath/
>
>I usually strike out there, even with some of my 20th century folk, but I
>have also pulled a couple of records from way before I had any hope of
>finding anything, I think the early stuff is just indexes?/
>
>But even those help me fill in the blanks, when I am dealing with cousins of
>in-laws of cousins I don't really care to do more than have something.
>
>les
>
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Hi, I'm wondering how the homeless will be indexed and counted on the next census w/out falling thru the cracks.
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