[or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3

Marsha Bradley-Luthy pmml at meritel.net
Sat Sep 19 10:11:00 PDT 2009


Looking for a connection from Mckinney's and Bradley'?
I live on McKinney mountain.  Named for the McKinneys who had the original land grant.  Marion Co.  Oregon.

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  Hi, I have been working on my husband's lines out of IN.  Maybe others are doing same.  Take care to have a great day!!!!!   Laura

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  Does anybody know good books, articles, or other information on the history of poor farms in Multnomah County, other than Edgefield which opened in 1911 in Troutdale?




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    I'm getting emails sporadically but wonder if it's one way. I'm stalled out so haven't had much to contribute.
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  Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:57:47 -0700
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        Well, I have located mine in Oregon but just am not able to prove the date of her death.  It gets very frustrating. All the family trees I have found list her date of death as 9 March 1893 but no one seems to know where they found it or if it is accurate.  

        Emma Kellogg Langworthy (sometimes Longworthy - with or without the "y") died while an inmate at the Hawthorn Insane Asylum.  She was apparently buried there and when everyone was moved, created and put into storage her cremains seem to be among the ones that lost labels.  

        The Oregon State Hospital people have been helpful as have all the places they sent me for info but nothing is forthcoming.  Apparently she died before regular records were kept and the Asylum records are long gone.  No full record of her commitment or her death.  Someone here helped me
        find an ab breviated record of her commitment but that is all so far,

        I  haven't found anything on her husband, Andrew Jackson Langworthy who left her there and moved back to Michigan with eight kids, later to marry his niece and move to Missouri.


        Penny

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          From: lschiendel <lschiendel at aol.com>
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I missing emails?
          To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
          Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:47 PM


          I've been watching also.   Very very quiet.  Maybe everyone has found their relatives.
          Lillian


       



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  Was the asylum a public or private one? In Multnomah County? Mult. Co. has county archives...




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         Well, I have located mine in Oregon but just am not able to prove the date of her death.  It gets very frustrating. All the family trees I have found list her date of death as 9 March 1893 but no one seems to know where they found it or if it is accurate.  

          Emma Kellogg Langworthy (sometimes Longworthy - with or without the "y") died while an inmate at the Hawthorn Insane Asylum.  She was apparently buried there and when everyone was moved, created and put into storage her cremains seem to be among the ones that lost labels.  

          The Oregon State Hospital people have been helpful as have all the places they sent me for info but nothing is forthcoming.  Apparently she died before regular records were kept and the Asylum records are long gone.  No full record of her commitment or her death.  Someone here helped me find an ab breviated record of her commitment but that is all so far,

          I  haven't found anything on her husband, Andrew Jackson Langworthy who left her there and moved back to Michigan with eight kids, later to marry his niece and move to Missouri.


          Penny

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            From: lschiendel <lschiendel at aol.com>
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I missing emails?
            To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
            Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:47 PM





            I've been watching also.   Very very quiet.  Maybe everyone has found their relatives.


            Lillian




         


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        Hawthorn Insane Asylum is now the Oregon State Hospital and is in Lane County.  I have spent hours on the phone and countless hours in research.  I am open to any suggestions.  I am in Michigan so can't just run to an Oregon library but have been very fortunate to find helpful people at nearly every turn.  




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          From: Paulette <pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com>
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          Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 4:33 PM


          Was the asylum a public or private one? In Multnomah County? Mult. Co. has county archives...



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            From: Penny/Leigh 
            Sent: Sep 17, 2009 3:57 PM 
            To: or-roots mail list 
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I missing emails? 

                  Well, I have located mine in Oregon but just am not able to prove the date of her death.  It gets very frustrating. All the family trees I have found list her date of death as 9 March 1893 but no one seems to know where they found it or if it is accurate.  

                  Emma Kellogg Langworthy (sometimes Longworthy - with or without the "y") died while an inmate at the Hawthorn Insane Asylum.  She was apparently buried there and when everyone was moved, created and put into storage her cremains seem to be among the ones that lost labels.  

                  The Oregon State Hospital people have been helpful as have all the places they sent me for info but nothing is forthcoming.  Apparently she died before regular records were kept and the Asylum records are long gone.  No full record of her commitment or her death.  Someone here helped me find an ab breviated record of her commitment but that is all so
                  far,

                  I  haven't found anything on her husband, Andrew Jackson Langworthy who left her there and moved back to Michigan with eight kids, later to marry his niece and move to Missouri.


                  Penny

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                    From: lschiendel <lschiendel at aol.com>
                    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I missing emails?
                    To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
                    Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:47 PM


                    I've been watching also.   Very very quiet.  Maybe everyone has found their relatives.
                    Lillian


                 


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  Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:52:20 -0400
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  The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same as 
  the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not in Lane 
  County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts used in the 
  movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to be replaced with 
  new buildings.





  According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public 
  Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in Portland in 
  1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened. 





  The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the Oregon 
  State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice in the 
  Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the individuals 
  whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."  ..."Shall 
  disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth and death of 
  persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the department for the 
  purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to claim the cremated remains 
  and creating a memorial for those persons whose cremated remains are not 
  claimed."





  What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no longer 
  have a label that is legible or a label at 
  all.                      
  Mimi Stang



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  This is interesting I wonder if Norbert 
  is one of them?




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    I missing emails?






    The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same 
    as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not in 
    Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts used in 
    the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to be replaced 
    with new buildings.





    According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public 
    Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in Portland 
    in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened. 





    The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the 
    Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice in 
    the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the 
    individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."  
    ..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth and 
    death of persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the 
    department for the purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to claim 
    the cremated remains and creating a memorial for those persons whose 
    cremated remains are not claimed."





    What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no longer 
    have a label that is legible or a label at 
    all.                      
    Mimi Stang




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  How about changing the subject line, 
  please?




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    From: 
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    This is interesting I wonder if 
    Norbert is one of them?




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      am I missing emails?






      The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same 
      as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not in 
      Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts used 
      in the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to be 
      replaced with new buildings.





      According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public 
      Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in 
      Portland in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened. 






      The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the 
      Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice 
      in the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the 
      individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."  
      ..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth and 
      death of persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the 
      department for the purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to 
      claim the cremated remains and creating a memorial for those persons 
      whose cremated remains are not claimed."





      What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no 
      longer have a label that is legible or a label at 
      all.                      
      Mimi Stang




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  Yes, please
  DO change the subject line.  Many of us scan subject lines to see if an item is
  of interest before we open or delete it.  We don’t want to miss all your
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  [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Ray Powell

  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009
  8:28 PM

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  or am I missing emails?















  How about changing the subject line,
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    From: Marilyn Drake











    To: or-roots mail list 










    Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:03 PM










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    This is interesting I wonder if Norbert is
    one of them?













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      From: MStang5165 at aol.com











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      Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:52 PM










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    The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland
    and is not …














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  Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:39:24 -0700
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  Hi Mimi,


  How do we find out the 
  names on that list?


  Thanks,


  Ronda





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  [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of 
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  Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:52 
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  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; 
  pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I 
  missing emails?






  The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same as 
  the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not in Lane 
  County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts used in the 
  movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to be replaced with 
  new buildings.





  According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public 
  Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in Portland in 
  1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened. 





  The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the Oregon 
  State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice in the 
  Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the individuals 
  whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."  ..."Shall 
  disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth and death of 
  persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the department for the 
  purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to claim the cremated remains 
  and creating a memorial for those persons whose cremated remains are not 
  claimed."





  What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no longer 
  have a label that is legible or a label at 
  all.                      
  Mimi Stang



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  Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:27:37 -0500
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Hawthorne Asylum











  The Asylum Cemetery is a book published by Susan Bell in 
  1991.Published by the Willamette Valley Genealogical Society  P.O. Cox 2083 
  Salem Oregon 97308








  As my GG grandfather is buried there I hired a researcher 
  to find him and she sent me information from that book. On page 3 it states 
  until such time as the State was able to afford the establishment of an asylum 
  in Salem, it would be state policy to use the facilities of the recently open 
  Hawthorne Asylum in Portland. In the fall of 1880 the Oregon State Legislature 
  appropriated  $100,000. for the building of the Oregon State Insane Asylum. 
  Page 4 has a notice of the completion and invited the public to inspect the 
  premise in the fall of 1883 with a notice in the paper  dated October 24 
  1883.





  On page 9 the Daily Oregonian carried an eyewitness 
  account of the transfer by train of male patients from Portland's Hawthorne 
  Asylum to their new home in Salem. (For details on the day's events, as well as 
  lists of the patients transferred to Salem that day and the next, see "Beaver 
  Briefs, " Vol 23 pp 21-24.





  In 1913 the name was changed to the Oregon State 
  Hospital.Page 12 tells of the bill S.B. 109  of the deposition of the 
  bodies.If not claimed within one week of death shall be delivered by the 
  officers of such institution for consumption at the crematory  and the 
  ashes sent to the relatives or other persons having an interest in the deceased 
  if requested.





  Section 3 All remains of persons who have heretofore died, 
  as inmates of the Oregon State Insane Asylum, and which have been buried in the 
  burying ground belonging to said institution, shall be exhumed and cremated in 
  said crematory and all monuments marking the graves of such persons, shall be 
  removed and placed in some suitable place on the Cottage Farm.





  Page 15 For the remainder of the Cemetery's previous 
  residents, their last resting place became the basement of the Adolescent Ward 
  until 19 76 when all were place in  vaults in the Memorial Circle on the 
  hospital grounds. Each receptacle is numbered and cross-referenced.





  Patient 637 and his wife patient 595 are in a vault in the 
  Memorial Circle.  





  I would be most interested in following the information 
  about the release of names in the Statesman Journal 


  Thank you ,


  Susie in Iowa


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    From: 
    MStang5165 at aol.com 


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    Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:52 
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    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am 
    I missing emails?






    The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same 
    as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not in 
    Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts used in 
    the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to be replaced 
    with new buildings.





    According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public 
    Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in Portland 
    in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened. 





    The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the 
    Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice in 
    the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the 
    individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."  
    ..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth and 
    death of persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the 
    department for the purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to claim 
    the cremated remains and creating a memorial for those persons whose 
    cremated remains are not claimed."





    What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no longer 
    have a label that is legible or a label at 
    all.                      
    Mimi Stang




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  From: MStang5165 at aol.com
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  Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:14:40 -0400
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Hawthorne Asylum









  I am familiar with the book you cited - in fact, Sue Bell is a friend. 
  But note that the title is the "Asylum Cemetery." It concerns the old 
  cemetery there - the bodies were removed, cremated and placed in the 
  canisters - and documented. I believe that this is just a small number of the 
  cremains that are actually held by the Oregon State Hospital.





  If you do a Google search for "cremains at Oregon State Hospital" you will 
  get 2,600 hits! The one from the New York Times (quoted from The 
  Oregonian) is quite good and gives the number as 3,489 cremains that are 
  there in canisters. And the notation that many of the labels are no longer 
  legible.





  The Public Notice in the Statesman Journal gives the following: Family 
  members may report their objection to the publication of a relative's 
  information by contacting  DHS at: oshcremains at state.or.us. 
   However, I have tried using this URL a number of times and it does not 
  seem to work! Never brings up an Oregon State Hospital web 
  site.    


                 
  Mimi Stang



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  Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:24:33 -0400
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Hawthorne Asylum











  In a message dated 9/18/2009 8:20:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
  MStang5165 at aol.com writes:


    The Public Notice in the Statesman Journal gives 
    the following: Family members may report their objection to the publication of 
    a relative's information by contacting  DHS at: oshcremains at state.or.us. 
     However, I have tried using this URL a number of times and it does not 
    seem to work! Never brings up an Oregon State Hospital web 
    site.   




  The probable reason you do not get a website is that this is an email 
  address -- NOT a URL link.



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  Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:32:40 -0700
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am I missing emails?











  Of intrest here is people often were clasified as 
  insane with physical problems that affected mentation. Diabetics, 
  Syphalis's


  etc. 




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    To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
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    Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:52 
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    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Is it slow or am 
    I missing emails?






    The Hawthorne Asylum was in Portland and is not, nor ever was, the same 
    as the Oregon State Hospital which is in Salem in Marion County. Not in 
    Lane County. Some of the oldest parts of the State Hospital (the parts used in 
    the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) are being torn down to be replaced 
    with new buildings.





    According to a web site Salem Online History through the Salem Public 
    Library, Dr. Hawthorne first opened his hospital for the "insane" in Portland 
    in 1862. In 1883 the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was opened. 





    The canisters you referred to with cremains are here in Salem at the 
    Oregon State Hospital. Just this week there has been a legal Public Notice in 
    the Statesman Journal "Notice of intent to publish the names of the 
    individuals whose cremains are in custody of Oregon State Hospital."  
    ..."Shall disclose to the general public the name and the dates of birth and 
    death of persons whose cremated remains are in the possession of the 
    department for the purposes of: giving a family member an opportunity to claim 
    the cremated remains and creating a memorial for those persons whose 
    cremated remains are not claimed."





    What the notice does not mention is that many of the canisters no longer 
    have a label that is legible or a label at 
    all.                      
    Mimi Stang




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