From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 07:30:00 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:30:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome>

Where is this book of DLC?
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
 > In the book they start with number one and are consecutive for the entire
> 5289 DLC's, perhaps Denise has the right idea in that perhaps TD was the
> first one to stake a bonafide DLC, either in his area or period, but 
> others
> filed theirs first. 



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 07:32:05 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:32:05 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matney
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I think Walt Davis can answer that.
We don`t.
  Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha BradleyLuthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney


  so which lines is connected to the Hewitts


  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:

    ok
    the Matheny folks are not related to the Matney lines ever.
    The Cooper in these Matheny lines are not related to the Cooper in the Matney lines, how ever these Matheny and Coopers are Walt Davis lines ;)

    It seems back through time tho the Matney and Matheny lines seemed to live near each other tho.
    I will look in the John Matney and some of the other text you wrote further for more related info all help even a tiny bit is a big help. I am where I cant get to LDS or any research places any more.
    Dan M ;)
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net> 

    To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

    Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:41 PM 

    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney



      Polk County Oregon Marriages
      1846-1855
      MATHNEY, Walter and COOPER, Julia 07 Mar 1853
      1884 



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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 07:44:23 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:44:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matney
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEMEGACBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <86E70273333F42EF81A8988806B4EBE2@AroundHome>

Yes I agree because we watch the misspellings all the time.
As to fact of relationship other than that there is none.

Matney comes from Mattingly.
Most of the name variants on the Matney page on rootsweb for the my group 
MATNEY are ones I had at the time.
   We have over 130 varients of misspellings in Matney and Mattingly.
Also De Matenyee <sp> again and on back to the Doomsday book my cousin found 
relations . How ever not touched on enough yet to prove lines.
   The Matheny/Cooper and Matney/Cooper are two unrelated lines, but yea I 
know the Matney and Matheny got mixed in spelling as well as Matiny, Matany, 
Matni and Mantey, all types of typo`s we have found. Also another problem is 
the wagon masters did not get every one listed because I know of several 
people who had to be on the 1843 train and the 1850 train I did not see in 
the list of members, I know Walter did not travel alone but is the only one 
on it. Also I did not see our Coopers on the 1850. I was wondering if there 
were other trains in between.  I do have pictures of the Matney wagon 
freight wagons and the Matney folks, not sure of the year but the streets 
were all mud then. Matney folk had fright wagons went around the mt`ns 
Alturas, to The Dalls and back around to Dallas and back to CA and all over 
again, also James B Matney was a scout who led most of the trains from Salt 
lake to Oregon, not a lot of his mentions either.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney


> Dan;
>
> I got the impression from some of what I read that dismissing Mathen(e)y 
> out
> of hand as not being your folks might be a mistake; it makes it harder of
> course, but in a couple of things I ran across last night looking for 
> Walter
> the implication was that some times the names get confused. I would think 
> if
> they were in the same neighborhood it would make confusion even easier, I
> can just imagine some court clerk who had recorded for Matheney weddings 
> in
> the last two months because the Matheney boys had gone on a marrying jag
> being told by the guy standing in front of him that he is Walter Matney 
> and
> thinking he was hearing Matheney.
>
> The most important place to consider that of course is the Census stuff, I
> wouldn't find half of my ancestors and buttonhole relatives if I didn't 
> use
> a lot of imagination on spelling.
>
> Les C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Marsha
> BradleyLuthy
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:24 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney
>
>
> so which lines is connected to the Hewitts
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:
>
> ok
> the Matheny folks are not related to the Matney lines ever.
> The Cooper in these Matheny lines are not related to the Cooper in the
> Matney lines, how ever these Matheny and Coopers are Walt Davis lines ;)
>
> It seems back through time tho the Matney and Matheny lines seemed to live
> near each other tho.
> I will look in the John Matney and some of the other text you wrote 
> further
> for more related info all help even a tiny bit is a big help. I am where I
> cant get to LDS or any research places any more.
> Dan M ;)
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" 
> <pmml at meritel.net>
>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:41 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney
>
>
>
> Polk County Oregon Marriages
> 1846-1855
> MATHNEY, Walter and COOPER, Julia 07 Mar 1853
> 1884
>
>
>
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb  1 08:13:40 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:13:40 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matney
In-Reply-To: <86E70273333F42EF81A8988806B4EBE2@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKEGCCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

The DLC book was published by the Genealogical forum of Portland, I don't
know that it is available to purchase, but I am sure a lot of libraries
would have them. there are actually four books I believe, I have them from
Heritage quest in pdg format.

As to the name thing I figured you probalby had been down that road, I know
I have been enough times. I caught myself forgetting that the other night
though and giving up on the Keisers because I didn't look for Kiezer or
Kieser. And of course there is always the problem with indexes.

Les C

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:44 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney


Yes I agree because we watch the misspellings all the time.
As to fact of relationship other than that there is none.

Matney comes from Mattingly.
Most of the name variants on the Matney page on rootsweb for the my group
MATNEY are ones I had at the time.
   We have over 130 varients of misspellings in Matney and Mattingly.
Also De Matenyee <sp> again and on back to the Doomsday book my cousin found
relations . How ever not touched on enough yet to prove lines.
   The Matheny/Cooper and Matney/Cooper are two unrelated lines, but yea I
know the Matney and Matheny got mixed in spelling as well as Matiny, Matany,
Matni and Mantey, all types of typo`s we have found. Also another problem is
the wagon masters did not get every one listed because I know of several
people who had to be on the 1843 train and the 1850 train I did not see in
the list of members, I know Walter did not travel alone but is the only one
on it. Also I did not see our Coopers on the 1850. I was wondering if there
were other trains in between.  I do have pictures of the Matney wagon
freight wagons and the Matney folks, not sure of the year but the streets
were all mud then. Matney folk had fright wagons went around the mt`ns
Alturas, to The Dalls and back around to Dallas and back to CA and all over
again, also James B Matney was a scout who led most of the trains from Salt
lake to Oregon, not a lot of his mentions either.
Dan M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney


> Dan;
>
> I got the impression from some of what I read that dismissing Mathen(e)y
> out
> of hand as not being your folks might be a mistake; it makes it harder of
> course, but in a couple of things I ran across last night looking for
> Walter
> the implication was that some times the names get confused. I would think
> if
> they were in the same neighborhood it would make confusion even easier, I
> can just imagine some court clerk who had recorded for Matheney weddings
> in
> the last two months because the Matheney boys had gone on a marrying jag
> being told by the guy standing in front of him that he is Walter Matney
> and
> thinking he was hearing Matheney.
>
> The most important place to consider that of course is the Census stuff, I
> wouldn't find half of my ancestors and buttonhole relatives if I didn't
> use
> a lot of imagination on spelling.
>
> Les C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Marsha
> BradleyLuthy
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:24 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney
>
>
> so which lines is connected to the Hewitts
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:
>
> ok
> the Matheny folks are not related to the Matney lines ever.
> The Cooper in these Matheny lines are not related to the Cooper in the
> Matney lines, how ever these Matheny and Coopers are Walt Davis lines ;)
>
> It seems back through time tho the Matney and Matheny lines seemed to live
> near each other tho.
> I will look in the John Matney and some of the other text you wrote
> further
> for more related info all help even a tiny bit is a big help. I am where I
> cant get to LDS or any research places any more.
> Dan M ;)
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy"
> <pmml at meritel.net>
>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:41 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney
>
>
>
> Polk County Oregon Marriages
> 1846-1855
> MATHNEY, Walter and COOPER, Julia 07 Mar 1853
> 1884
>
>
>
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Mon Feb  1 08:29:30 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:29:30 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw:  I.O.F.
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The War of the Rebellion was the Civil War and it didn?t start until 1861.

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:32 PM
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I have the documents on the 1844 wiss inf including the Capt and the whole regiment.

  I think it was called the war of the rebelion or something. have to re look up those papers they are here in my mess of resuing all my papers from the hwy after the person we hired wrecked it.

sigh>;(

Dan M

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Harguess, Dale <mailto:dharguess at coastline.edu>  

	To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

	Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:52 AM

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	Are you referring to the WISS 1844 thing?  The Civil War didn?t start until 1861.  The 1844 thing could have been Indians war.

	 

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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Mon Feb  1 08:33:34 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 08:33:34 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
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Where were the Harris' from originally?

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County

Well shucks no Matney LOL.
My wife has Harris how about the William Harris ?
Dan M
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Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County


>I should have done this earlier, but here is the index, for what it is
> worth.  I say that because it is far from complete -- especially where

> wives
> and children were concerned. But here goes:
 > Harris, William
 

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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 09:04:58 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:04:58 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw:  I.O.F.
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yes this was corrected in a new message;)
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Harguess, Dale 
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  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Fw: I.O.F.


  The War of the Rebellion was the Civil War and it didn?t start until 1861.

   

  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:32 PM
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  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Fw: I.O.F.

   

  I have the documents on the 1844 wiss inf including the Capt and the whole regiment.

    I think it was called the war of the rebelion or something. have to re look up those papers they are here in my mess of resuing all my papers from the hwy after the person we hired wrecked it.

  sigh>;(

  Dan M

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    From: Harguess, Dale 

    To: or-roots mail list 

    Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:52 AM

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    Are you referring to the WISS 1844 thing?  The Civil War didn?t start until 1861.  The 1844 thing could have been Indians war.

     



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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 09:05:38 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:05:38 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
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Germany/;)
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County


> Where were the Harris' from originally?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:55 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
> 
> Well shucks no Matney LOL.
> My wife has Harris how about the William Harris ?
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
> To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
> 
> 
>>I should have done this earlier, but here is the index, for what it is
>> worth.  I say that because it is far from complete -- especially where
> 
>> wives
>> and children were concerned. But here goes:
> > Harris, William
> 
> 
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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Mon Feb  1 09:35:28 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:35:28 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
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Dan

The one I use is on Ancestry.com. It's much easier to search.

Pat
In Tucson 


-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur

Where is this book of DLC?
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
 > In the book they start with number one and are consecutive for the entire
> 5289 DLC's, perhaps Denise has the right idea in that perhaps TD was the
> first one to stake a bonafide DLC, either in his area or period, but 
> others
> filed theirs first. 

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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Mon Feb  1 10:29:34 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:29:34 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
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Les

On the http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/

Select the "standard" tab and put the number under "Document Nr:"

One thing that you will notice if you put in "1" is that you get four pages
of hits.

It appears that each Land Office and "law" would start from "1" -- so if you
also select 

September 27, 1850: Oregon-Donation Act (grant) (99 Stat. 496)

Under "authority" you will get a few:

George Abernathy and Dr. John McLaughlin, Clackamas, 2/27/1891-- Clackamas
-- issued 2/27/1891
Edward and Sophia Crete, Wasco -- 1/16/1882
King and Nancy Hibbard, Marion, 1/18/1859
William C McKay, Umatilla, 2/27/1874
Oregon State, Benton, Lane, Linn, 2/21872
Jane and John Rankin, Jackson, 8/19/1865

"Obviously"  there's not a direct relationship between when a plat was
"settled" and a "claim filed" and when it was granted. 

So, just to check these, here's what GMODLC says:

On Abernathy and McLoughlin -- I find nothing in the book, but check out No.
219. The "No 1" may be a "fix" for No 219, which has an issue date of
1/23/1873, with Ann and George, T2Sr2E, sect 21, 28, 29, 30.  (ORORAA
043871) And, likewise, Dr John McLaughlin and Marie Antoinette Neujian,
issued 1/26, 1892, (ORORAA 044191) for T2S R2E, Sect 30/12.  Very odd that
one.

Edward and Sophia Crete are listed on Vol 3, p 171, as having TD 1. P 3/157
gives a certificate from the Dalles, "Crete (Crait-Crate) (X), Edward; b
1822, Canada; Arr Ore 1 Nov 1837; SC 1 Apr 1851; m Sophia 15 Jun 1844,
Vancouver, Ore. T (Wash). . . Pat was dated 16 Jan 1882.  

No. 1 (Oregon City) Hibbard, King, Marion Co; b 1806, Ontario Co, N. Y.; SC
1 Apr 1848; m Nancy 26 Mar 1835, Tazewell Co, Ill. Aff: Wm. Brisbin, Ralph
C. Geer, John W. Shrum. 

1 McKay, William C (vol 3, p 157) , Umatilla Co (formerly Wasco); b 1822/3
Clatsop Co, Ore. T; SC July 1851/Apr 1852. McKay states he is a native
half-breed Indian. Feb 1856 he was driven from his c by hostile Indians. Mar
1875 C. O. Fanning gave aff he was owner of this c. Orlando Humason gave aff
this claim is identical land claim mentioned and described in the treaty
between the Cayuse tribe May 1855. Aff: Edward (X) Crate. Pat dated 27 Feb
1874.  

Hmm interesting -- Edward Crate/Crete is fellow above....

Finally, Jane and John Rankin (Roseburg Land Office)
1 Rankin, John, Jackson Co; b 1812, OH; Arr Ore 16 Oct 1852; SC 1/6 Aug
1853; m Jane 7/8 Apr 1852, Mahaska Co, IA. Paid for c 14 Mar 1856, Rec #50.
Aff: John Rankin, Jr, Daniel Carlisle (Carlille).

So, as we see, the "we're #1" may apply to many things, but having the "#1"
certificate means very little.

In this case, in Marion County, we'd have to go through the entire list (no
thanks) to see who "settled claim" first, I would think.

Hibbard - 1848
Geer, 1848
Delany - 1 Apr 1844
Nelson, 1847. . . .
Keizer -- Nov 1844. . . . 
Beers -- Oct 1844
Howell (Howell prairie) Aug 1844. . .
Ford, (John) June 1844
Waldo - Dec 1843
Lewis, Nov 1844

Sigh.

Pat
In Tucson 


-----Original Message-----
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No, I didn't find that at all, now that I know it is there, I can see it in
the index, but last night I sure couldn't see it, I guess I should be more
beware of making blanket pronouncements at the end of long days.

As to the numbers I recall haveing difficulty making the numbers in the
Genealogical Material book match up with BLM, but it seems to me like
somewhere in the BLM info the numbers in the book do show up?

In the book they start with number one and are consecutive for the entire
5289 DLC's, perhaps Denise has the right idea in that perhaps TD was the
first one to stake a bonafide DLC, either in his area or period, but others
filed theirs first.

The whole idea of his claim being first seems silly to me since there were
already some people from the United states in the Willamette valley when the
wagon train(s?) of 1843 came over, there was a mechanism created by the
provisional goverment of Oregon before we actually became a territory to
allot land to settlers in a manner similar to the DLC system and if I
remember right a DLC couldn't be filed until the area in which you claimed
land had been subdivided by the GLO.

It makes a good story for the family I guess.

Les



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 10:31:17 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:31:17 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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I cant afford Ancestry nor can I afford a newer version of FTM.
   I also got word today they are raising rates to 200 buks.
So with being retired is what people want, I worked when wages were very low 
and don't get a lot of SS so after every things paid, I got a few buks to 
put upgrades on the out in the boonies homestead. This month we are looking 
for a Dutch oven for campfire, the hanging type, also one to make bread in.
   Then I have a special wind mill to make and need some scrap piles for 
parts, scavenging is fun, never know what you can do with junk.
   As for my little bit of spending money I was looking for some places to 
find used items like second hand stores in the area. I was wondering about 
Burns and places on that side of us rather than always going to Bend and 
Redmond we wore those out.
  Lots of things I could cart home if I could find them, yard sales, 
freebies etc..
Now as for the current genealogy Items - any thing on Julia, Walter as 
mentioned before, I am up dating my website working with the first name I 
have proof of `who is` Broadwater Matney, great great grand father also was 
sposed to be on the 1850 trail to Oregon. We don't have a picture so far as 
we know.
   See www.d-matney.com for my project.
Dan M
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> Dan
>
> The one I use is on Ancestry.com. It's much easier to search.
>
> Pat
> In Tucson
>
>
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> Where is this book of DLC?
> Dan M
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> > In the book they start with number one and are consecutive for the 
> > entire
>> 5289 DLC's, perhaps Denise has the right idea in that perhaps TD was the
>> first one to stake a bonafide DLC, either in his area or period, but
>> others
>> filed theirs first.
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 10:36:09 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:36:09 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Source:  1850 trail list source>The Oregonian Dec 4,
	1925
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CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 1850orim.txt)





Source:  The Oregonian Dec 4, 1925.



"Covered Wagons Brought Many Settlers Here in  1850"

Immigration of Year Notable - Oregon Historical Society Compiles List, Most 
Complete Ever Published of Pioneers Who Came 75 Years Ago.



Oregon gained many new residents in 1850.  The territory was becoming better 
known in the east, since the gold rush to California had created an active 
market for agricultural product and the Willamette Valley afforded as almost 
limitless opportunity for production of the staples the gold miners needed. 
Price was no object in the gold camps and the Oregon pioneers, chiefly 
agriculturists, were coming in increasing numbers.



The following list of the immigration of 1850 to Oregon is from the archives 
of the Oregon Historical Society and, although not complete, includes most 
of those who came that year.



--------



Additional note: The names were copied in the order they appear in the 
newspaper article and are not necessarily in alphabetical order.  Also, the 
compiler's copy of this paper had taped crease marks which obliterated some 
of the names.   If there is access to the original article, additions and 
corrections will be appreciated.

-------------



"A" Surnames:



Abbott, Mrs. S. F.

Abernethy, Alex S.

Abbott, Mrs. Keturah Ballinger

Adams, John

Adams, Mrs. M. E.

Alford, Mrs. Martha J.

Allen, Henry Stephen

Allen, Kames L.

Allen, Mrs. M. A.

Althouse, J. A.

Anderson, David

Anderson, T. F.

Ankeny, Henry E.

Ankeny, Alexander P..

Applegate, Mrs. Isabelle Estes

Arnspiger, Mrs. Martha

Arrigoni, Mrs. E.

Ankeny, Levi

Aubrey, Marshall C.

Armentrout, Mrs.



"B" Surnames



Berry, Alfred M.

Bacon, C. P.

Beatty, William

Bell, John C.

Bills, Lemuel

Bonnell, Allison Clark

Borges, C. H.

Bowger, N. A.

Booth, Robert

Boise, Reuben P.

Boynton, Mrs. Mary A.

Boynton, Ebenezer L.

Boynton, Charles O.

Blumaer, Joseph

Blevins, Andrew J.

Blevins, John

Barclay, Mrs. Marie Bambrun

Backus, C. F.

Backus, Gideon A,

Barnard, Timothy

Barnard, Mrs. Mary A.

Barnes, Mrs. Anna

Barnes, Hiel

Barnes, Nelson

Barnes, William Henry

Barnes, Dudley

Bales, Oliver Jackson

Barry, John

Barlow, Mrs. Martha (Ann Allen)

Baird, Benjamin C.

Baird, Mary Jane

Baker, Lucretia Ann

Baker, Letitia

Brooke, Mrs. Genevieve

Brooks, Mrs. Anna

Baker, William Willis

Brown, Leonard

Breitenbucher, Lewis France

Brooks, Henry Jonathan

Brooks, Edgar Seldon

Brooks, Linus

Brooks, Mrs. Linus

Brown, Mrs. Jimina

Brown, Mary Elizabeth

Brown, Sarah

Brown, Andrew Jackson

Brown, James H.

Brown, Joseph Edward

Brown, Nathan A.

Brown, Capt. Hiram

Brown, James H.

Brown, William

Brown, Mrs. Huldah A.

Brown, Margaret Jane

Brown, Jewett

Brown, Nancy Sophia

Belcher, J. Madison

Beckley, Mrs. Mary Margaret

Belcher, Mrs. Margaret

Belcher, Milton

Belieu, Mrs. L. C.

Belieu, S. L.

Belieu, M. B.

Bellinger, Merritt

Belt, Dr. A. M.

Belt, Mrs. Nancy

Benjamin, Mrs. Mary Ann (Mansfield)

Bennett, James Abner

Bennett, Squire

Bergevin, C. L.

Berry, John Alfred

Butler, Rufus

Burge, C. C.

Butler, Isaac M.

Byrd, Mrs. Martha (Savage)

Burnett, James D.

Burt, G. A.

Beckley, Mrs. Mary Margaret Woodson

Beane, James H.

Beane, Joseph N.

Baughman, Captain E. W.

Baughman, Jacob H.

Baum,  ----

Bates, Mrs. Joseph D. (McBurney)

Birdsey, Mrs. Clara Fleming



"C" Surnames



Calavan, James N.

Carson, John C.

Caton, N. T.

Carter, Mrs. W. D.

Carter, William Davis

Caldwell, William Sutton

Chance, William

Charlton, Charles A.

Charlton, Joseph  J.

Childers, H. C.

Cheesman, Mrs. Urania Macy

Coffin, S. C.

Cole, George E.

Comegys, Emily J.

Crosby, Mrs. Phebe H.

Crosby, Mrs. Virginia

Cornelius, B. P.

Cloninger, Thomas A.

Cohn, Moritz

Coon, Washington L.

Crosby, Mrs. Phebe

Crimmins, John

Cochran, James

Cook, Mrs. Eliza

Cook, Edwin N.

Cornoyer, Narcisse

Currin, George J.

Coulter, Samuel

Cochran, James

Comegys, George

Connor, Mrs. Jane

Condit, Mrs. Abigail Brown



"D" Surnames



Davenport, T. W.

Davis, Thomas A.

Davis, Warren, David Sherman

Duniway, Benjamin C.

Dudley, John B.

Duskin, Oscar T.

Durham, Richard L.

Dorman, Mrs. J. M.

Dobelbower, William B.

Doane, Mrs. Matilda

Doane, Rev. Nehemiah

Denison, Ami P.

Donaldson, John

Dowell, Benjamin Franklin

Douglas, Oswell T.

Dryer, Thomas Jefferson

Deardoff, David

Davidson, Isaac G.

Davidson, John

Davidson, Elijah

Davidson, Elijah B.

Davis, Thomas A.

Davidson, Mrs. Saloma Jones

Dart, Mrs. Ellen McNulty

Davis, Alvah Isaiah

Davis, Mrs. Isabella Laughlin

Davis, David

Day, Phoeba E.



"E" Surnames



Elliott, James Monroe

Elliott, Mrs. Celia Ann Paul

Elkins, Mrs. Lucy Jane Zumwalt

English, Mrs. Mary

Ellerson, John H.

Ebbert, Mrs. James

Estes, Edwin A.

Estes, Elijah

Estes, Mrs. Hannah

Emerson, Mrs. Mary Jane Sherwood

Elliott, Samuel



"F" Surnames



Florence, Mrs. Catherine S.

Fountain, Caleb

Foster, J. H.

Foster, J. N.

Folsom, Mrs. Phoebe

Fowler, Andrew Jackson

Franklin, S. B.

Frost, Mrs. Matilda Price

Fuller, Mrs. Louisa E. R.

Farrar, Mrs. Abbie Hatch

Fackler, Rev. St. Michael

Fackler, Annie Elizabeth

Ferguson, Mrs. Jane

Finnican, Mrs. Elizabeth Ladd

Fitzhugh, Solomon

Fitzhugh, John

Florence, A. B.

Florence, Mrs. Catherine S.

Flora, Frederick

Foudray, Sarah Alice



"G" Surnames



Gatton, S.

Gaines, Abner P.

Gaines, Mrs. Elizabeth

Gaines, John P.

Garrett, Henry D.

Gay, Samuel

Geer, Mrs. Eliza E. (Foster)

Gibbs, Addison C.

Green, Mrs. Kate

Guthrie, Mrs. Mary

Grooms, Mrs. Agnes

Grooms, William

Grubb, T. N.

Griggs, Mrs. Amanda

Grubbs, Benjamin J.

Grubbs, Mrs. Eliz. Ann Liggett

Groves, William

Groves, Mrs. Emma Horning

Gray, Hiram

Gillihan, Mrs. Sarah Catherine Howell

Glass, Robert

Glass, William

Griffin, Mrs. Emily Catherine Roberts

Griffin, B. L.

Griffith, Mrs. Maria

Griffith, Chisholm



"H" Surnames



Haskins, J.J.

Haskins, Mrs. J. J.

Hayden, Mrs. Mary Jane (Bean)

Heater, Benjamin

Hearn, Tluming H.

Hancock, Thomas

Hartin, John H.

Hawthorne, James DeCrosset

Handley, Charles

Hayter, Thomas Jefferson

Hibbard, George L.

Higgins, W. S.

Higgins, George Wash.

Henness, Rebecca

Henness, Benjamin Lee

Heater, Mrs. Mary J.

Henrici, William E.

Hendershott, Mrs. E. J.

Heator, Benjamin

Handley, Thomas B.

Haynes, George

Hart, George W.

Hamilton, David

Hamilton, Edward

Harn, Mrs. Julia Reed

Hartin, George

Harris, W. H.

Hagard, William C.

Hammitt, Norman

Hamilton, Jason C.

Hamilton, Samuel Milton

Harding, Elisha Jenkins

Haskins, Mrs. J. J.

Haskins, J. J.

Harris, William

Howell, Mrs. Benjamin

Howell, Thomas

Hubbard, C. S.

Hull, Orley

H----eston, James

Hussey, Stephen

Hussey, Mary E. (Young)

Hunt, James

Huber, Noah

Hurt, Moses

Hunsaker, Harrison King

Hesline, Mrs. Drusilla

Hardenburgh, P. D. W.

Handley, Thomas B.

Hanaley, Mrs. Sarah Burton

Hall, William



"I" Surnames



Irvin, Richard

Irvin, Mrs. Louisa

Irving, Elizabeth (Dixon)



"J" Surnames



Jefferson, Delos

Johnson, Joseph D.

Johnson, Mrs. Mary

Jones, Mrs. Sarah Ann Hall

Jones, Silas

Jones, Mrs. Mary Evaline Baird

Jewett, Leonard

Jewett, Thomas Drake

Jewett, Waldo

Jewett, Mrs. Emma Brown

Jackson, Mrs. Harriett

Jackson, Jerome

Joslyn, Mrs. Mary Baker

Johnson, William C.

Junkins, Mrs. Mary

Johnson, William

Job, Mrs. Lydia

Judy, Mrs. Mary Jane

Johnson, Samuel Thurston

Johnson, Joseph

Jolly, William

Johnson, Samuel



"K" Surnames



Keyt, E. C.

Kenyon, Frank

Keiser, Jerome J.

Kumm, Jacob

Kirtley, Jane L.

Koontz, Charlotte Summers

Knott, Andrew J.



"L" Surnames



Lackey, John

Ladd, Mrs. Sarah

Lewis, William F.

Lewis,  -eal Matilda

Lacy, James C.

Lemont, Franers E.

Lambert, Joseph Hamilton

Leonard, H. C.

Laughlin, John

Large, Mrs. Mary

Lee, Reuben

Leisy,  Isaac

Larson, John

Langford, W. G.

Large, Francis

Linn, David

Logan, Hugh

Lindsay, Horace

Lieser, Mrs. Eliz.

Livergood, Mrs. Louisa J. Ramsey

Lord, Mrs. Mary E. (Brown)

Lord, Mrs. Elizabeth (Laughlin)

Lowell, Daniel W.

Linnville, Mrs. Amanda F. (Davidson)

La-aut, Narcisse

L---nderson, Mrs. Sarah Elizabeth (Perry)

Laughlin, Susannah McCoy

Lee, Mrs. Nancy Laughlin

Laughlin, W. C.

Laughlin, Mrs. Mary J. (Yergain)

Laughlin, James

Laughlin, Frank B.

Laughlin, Davis Washington

Laughlin, James

Laughlin, Mrs. Nancy (McCoy)

Lindsay, Horace

Lucas, Thomas



"M" Surnames



Melissa (Walker)

Markeley, John Chambers

Mack, Mrs. Helen

Martindale, A.

Marckley, Mrs. Lucinda

Marrs, Mrs. L. E.

Maynard, Mrs. Mary

Matney, Carrie B.

Martin, Mrs. Mary Julia

Martin, James P.

Martin, James Thurston

Micott, John

Minto, Squire Bozorth

Miles, Samuel

Mitchell, James

Miller, John C.

Miller, Mrs. Marion

Miller, Frank M.

Miller, Betsey Ann

Miller, Mrs. Jane (McDonald)

Miller Mart.

Miller, J. W. (Rev)

Morris, W. C.

McClane, George F.

McPherson, William Angus

McCord, William R.

McKee, Mrs. B. F.

McKay, David Allen

McKee, Mrs. Lydia

McKee, James

McKee, Benjamin Franklin

McKenney, Peter

McKern, Luke

McLeran, Mrs. Elizabeth Adelaide (King)

McMorris, Lewis

McMulin, Frank Wise

McLench, Benjamin Franklin

Moore, Edwin Marshall

Moore, A. H.

Morris, A. B.

Moore, John W.

Morris, W. C.

Morris, Clarence L.

Morris, Preston

Murphy, John Miller

Murray, Henry

Morgan, Samuel

Miller, Mrs. Sarah Jane (Hutchinson)

Marden, Mrs. Harriet Reed



"N" Surnames



Nicklin, Thomas L.

Nicklin, John G. O.

Nicklin, Jno. Huff

Nicklin, Arthur Ingram

Nicklin, Mrs. Sarah

Nelson, Andrew Jefferson

Narris, Shubrick

Newell, G. Palmer

Nye, Nathan B.



"O" Surnames



O'Connor, Thomas

O'Sullivan, Timothy

Orton, Alfred



"P" Surnames



Preston, Mrs. Mary A. (Skidmore)

Porter, Mrs. Susan Gibson (Turner)

Porter, Robert Moffatt

Pointer, William

Porterfield, Mrs. Ruth

Porterfield, J. E.

Powell, D. J. P.

Pouty, Christian

Pointer, Theodora

Pitman, Mrs. Lousie Savage

Piette, John B. P.

Plummer, Mrs. Martha Elizabeth

Pinkley, Joseph

Pinkton, Harrison

Phillips, James T.

Peake, F. S.

Perdue, Mrs. Mary Frances (Mills)

Pack, Christopher Columbus

Patterson, William N.

Peuthand, Jane (Lox)

Partlow, James M.

Patton, William

Pattison, Charles

Peterson, Mrs. Mary E. Hussey

Parrish, Rolando

Parrish, Jessie

Parrish, Edward

Paul, Mrs. Hannah Jane Elliott

Pinkley, Joseph

Paxton, A. B.

Parker, Edmund A.

Palmer, B. P.

Peebles, John C.

Palmateer, Seth

Pease, Geo. Archibald Capt

Painter, Joseph Clark

Painter, William C.

Peebler,  Mrs. Iramiller Grubbe

Painter, Phillip

Pritchette, Kintzing



"R" Surnames



Riggs, John J.

Richardson, Mrs. Eliza J. (Barclay)

Richardson, Mrs. Sarah Elizabeth (Dofflemyer) Chapman Young

Rigdon, Stephen

Risdon, David M.

Rice, Isadore E.

Rilea, James

Rickard, Mrs. Mary Elizabeth

Ritchie, John McClung

Rowland, Mrs. Mary E.  (Huntree)

Roberts, James B.

Roberts, Samuel Houston

Roberts, Isaac

Roberts, Mrs. Elizabeth (Connor)

Robinson, Dr. J. W.

Robinson, Mrs. Susan Millegan

Riggs, Mrs. Evaline H. (Nicklin)

Ritz, Phillip

Renton, William

Redman, Christopher Columbus

Reed, Thomas M.

Reed, Calvin

Reed, D. Gay

Reed, Benjamin Calvin

Reed, George Nelson

Reasoner, Francis Northway



"S" Surnames



Short, Mrs. Henrietta (Zumwalt)

Shepherd, Mrs. Martha W. Allen

Sattlemier, Martin R.

Shaver, George W.

Sherrett, Mr.

Shortridge,  James Henderson

Sherlock, William

Silver, C. S.

Silver, Mrs. C. S.

Short, Mrs. Henrietta Zumwalt

Simpson, Richard L.

Simmons, Jno S.

Simmons, Wheelock

Simpson, Mrs. Emily Ring Smith

Skidmore, Andrew R.

Skidmore, Mrs. Sarah Ann (Slater)

Skidmore, Charles

Skidmore, Stephen Griggs

Slater, James H.

Sleppy, Mrs. Nancy (Brown)

Skaife, Jasper Newton

Skaife, Mrs. Marietta Hiles

Skaife, John

Sitton, Mrs. Ida (Skidmroe)

Silver, Stephen W.

Silver, Mrs. Sarah (Fairfield)

Stiwer, Frederick

Stitzel, Jacob

Staats, Henry

Stout, J. L.

Stillwell, Mrs. Elizabeth (Baxter)

Stark, Henry A.

Staiger, Mrs. Martha Jane (Woodworth)

Staiger, M. J. (Woodworth)

Strong, Curtis Clark

Starkweather, William A.

Stevens, Mrs. Crawford

Story, George L.

Starr, N. A.

Starr, Willits

Settlemier, Mary C. Woodworth

Settlemier, Maria Eleanor

Settlemier, Jesse Holland

Slavin, John A.

Smith, Mrs, Arethusa E.

Smith, Lucius Miles

Smith, Charles W.

Smith, Mrs. Hannah Moore

Smith, William B.

Smith, J. C.

Sawyers, Andrew

Savage, H. H.

Salisbury, George Washington

Salisbury, Mrs. George W.

Salisbury, Alice

Schrivner, J. E.

Schnebly, David J.

Schnebly, G. W.

Scriber, Mrs. M. J.

Scribner, J. W.

Savage, Mrs. Jane

Savage, John M.

Scribner, Charles W.

Sanford, R.

Sawyer, Joseph

Scott, Mrs. Charlotte

Savage, Mrs. Thomas

Savier, T. A.

Sargent, F. Nelson



"T" Surnames



Torrance, E. A.

Tillard, Samuel

Toney, Mrs. William

Tomlinson, Mrs. Almira

Townsend, Washington

Tuffs, Jas Priestley

Trenchard, C. J.

Taylor, Elbert E.

Thomas, Roderick R.

Tallman, James

Tallman, Mrs. Catherine

Templeton, James

Thompson, A. S.

Thomas, John

Thompson, Henry R.

Thomas, Mrs. Jane Gage Co--



"V" Surnames



Vaughn, George Washington



"W" Surnames



Waterman, John Orvis

Woodworth, Mrs. Jane (Sull----)

Woodson, William T.

Woodworth, Mrs. S. V. (W--)

Wilmot, Richard B.

Woods, Mrs. Charlotte L. Can----

Woodward, Henry H.

Wooddy, Claiborne Alphonso

Wood, Zina Wilkinson

Wood, Mrs. Mary Whitman Mu----

Woodward, George Washington

Woodworth, Joseph Merritt

Woodworth, Franklin Newland

Wade, Mrs. Sarah V. (Woodworth)

Wantz, Mrs. Allen

Wakefield, Leland Howard

Watts, Marvel Markham

Watts, Mrs. Nancy Ann (Knight)

Wright, Elsie D.

Wygatt, Theodora

Weeks, Rueben

West, Harry

Weeden, Mrs. Nancy Jane (Wood) Hale

Weaver, James B.

Weaver, John W.

Weaver, Wm. Lewis

Weaver, Mrs.

Worsham, Mrs. R.

White, Charles

White, W. L.

White, Mrs. Mary E.

White, William

White, Oliver Cromwell

Whitlock, William T.

White, Mrs. Mary Elizabeth (Pa--low)

White, William Lewis

White, Sha--ow

White, W. L.

White, Mrs. Luretta

Wilson, John Wesley

Wilmot, Robert Fletchar

Wilkins, Jasper

Wilmot, Robert P.

Wilmot, Richard Benjamin

Wilson, John

Wilson, Bushrod

Warren, Jay

Williams, Mrs. Sarah (Salisbury)

Wilmot, Mrs. Nancy (Stone)

Winter, Mrs. Margaret E. (Heater)

Whitman, John

Whitman, William A.

Whitman, Mrs. Elizabeth Davidson

Whitman, Squire

Whitman, Margaret Adarene

White, Mrs. Mary Jane Clements

Ward, Ira Frederick

Waters, Abner W.

Wade, William

Wade, Mrs. Sarah (Dunham)

Wait, Sylvester M.

Walker, William Wallan

Walker, Levi C.

Walker, Sterry

Walker, Samuel

Wagner, Jacob



"Y" Surnames



Yocum, H.

Young, Mrs. Mary (Hussey)

Young, Joseph R.

Young, Stephen A.



"Z" Surnames



Zieber, Mrs. Charlotte Monoir

Zumwalt, Levi W.

Zumwalt, D. B.

Zumwalt, Henry J.











From dharguess at coastline.edu  Mon Feb  1 11:01:04 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:01:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either Umatilla
or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but I
am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
there?
Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:31 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

I cant afford Ancestry nor can I afford a newer version of FTM.
   I also got word today they are raising rates to 200 buks.
So with being retired is what people want, I worked when wages were very
low 
and don't get a lot of SS so after every things paid, I got a few buks
to 
put upgrades on the out in the boonies homestead. This month we are
looking 
for a Dutch oven for campfire, the hanging type, also one to make bread
in.
   Then I have a special wind mill to make and need some scrap piles for

parts, scavenging is fun, never know what you can do with junk.
   As for my little bit of spending money I was looking for some places
to 
find used items like second hand stores in the area. I was wondering
about 
Burns and places on that side of us rather than always going to Bend and

Redmond we wore those out.
  Lots of things I could cart home if I could find them, yard sales, 
freebies etc..
Now as for the current genealogy Items - any thing on Julia, Walter as 
mentioned before, I am up dating my website working with the first name
I 
have proof of `who is` Broadwater Matney, great great grand father also
was 
sposed to be on the 1850 trail to Oregon. We don't have a picture so far
as 
we know.
   See www.d-matney.com for my project.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur


> Dan
>
> The one I use is on Ancestry.com. It's much easier to search.
>
> Pat
> In Tucson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:30 AM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
>
> Where is this book of DLC?
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
> > In the book they start with number one and are consecutive for the 
> > entire
>> 5289 DLC's, perhaps Denise has the right idea in that perhaps TD was
the
>> first one to stake a bonafide DLC, either in his area or period, but
>> others
>> filed theirs first.
>
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From Broad1000 at aol.com  Mon Feb  1 11:39:43 2010
From: Broad1000 at aol.com (Broad1000 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:39:43 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
Message-ID: <5c5b.7801867f.389887ff@aol.com>

I enjoy reading the conversations that pop up but I read the about  DLC's 
with interest.  I am from Clackamas County so the names mentioned are  not 
germane to my families.  I don't know when and how land grants were  finally 
proved up and surveyed and issued but Josiah Burnett's DLC in Douglas  County 
was issued in 1893, 18 years after he died and 33 years after he  left 
Douglas County under May 20, 1862: Homestead EntryOriginal (12 Stat.  392).  And 
he was a surveyor.  We have field notes from many surveys  in the Roseburg 
area.  Also Philip Foster's DLC was registered in 1877 on  land he purchased 
in 1847 in Eagle Creek under September 27, 1850:  Oregon-Donation Act 
(grant) (99 Stat. 496) .  Other family DLC's from  Douglas County were registered 
in 1865.  Also the original land had been  sold or divided in many cases by 
the date of issue.  So maybe the number  does not related to the original 
settlement on the land.
 
Joanne 
Philip Foster Farm
 
 In a message dated 2/1/2010 8:40:20 A.M. Hawaiian Standard Time,  
Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes:
 
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From Broad1000 at aol.com  Mon Feb  1 11:49:19 2010
From: Broad1000 at aol.com (Broad1000 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:49:19 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Matney
Message-ID: <62e2.4c762acb.38988a3f@aol.com>

Do you have a copy of the Cooper-Hewitt-Matheny Journal and manuscript  
edited in 1996 by Gary Burlingame,Julie Jones and Dan Rivera.  I don't know  if 
it relevant to your search but I have a copy in the archives at the Philip  
Foster Farm.
 
Joanne
 
 
In a message dated 2/1/2010 5:45:34 A.M. Hawaiian Standard Time,  
mygen2 at d-matney.com writes:

Yes I  agree because we watch the misspellings all the time.
As to fact of  relationship other than that there is none.

Matney comes from  Mattingly.
Most of the name variants on the Matney page on rootsweb for the  my group 
MATNEY are ones I had at the time.
We have over  130 varients of misspellings in Matney and Mattingly.
Also De Matenyee  <sp> again and on back to the Doomsday book my cousin 
found  
relations . How ever not touched on enough yet to prove  lines.
The Matheny/Cooper and Matney/Cooper are two unrelated  lines, but yea I 
know the Matney and Matheny got mixed in spelling as well  as Matiny, 
Matany, 
Matni and Mantey, all types of typo`s we have found.  Also another problem 
is 
the wagon masters did not get every one listed  because I know of several 
people who had to be on the 1843 train and the  1850 train I did not see in 
the list of members, I know Walter did not  travel alone but is the only 
one 
on it. Also I did not see our Coopers on  the 1850. I was wondering if 
there 
were other trains in between.  I  do have pictures of the Matney wagon 
freight wagons and the Matney folks,  not sure of the year but the streets 
were all mud then. Matney folk had  fright wagons went around the mt`ns 
Alturas, to The Dalls and back around  to Dallas and back to CA and all 
over 
again, also James B Matney was a  scout who led most of the trains from 
Salt 
lake to Oregon, not a lot of  his mentions either.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From:  "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail  list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, January 31,  2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matney


>  Dan;
>
> I got the impression from some of what I read that  dismissing Mathen(e)y 
> out
> of hand as not being your folks  might be a mistake; it makes it harder of
> course, but in a couple of  things I ran across last night looking for 
> Walter
> the  implication was that some times the names get confused. I would 
think 
>  if
> they were in the same neighborhood it would make confusion even  easier, I
> can just imagine some court clerk who had recorded for  Matheney weddings 
> in
> the last two months because the Matheney  boys had gone on a marrying jag
> being told by the guy standing in  front of him that he is Walter Matney 
> and
> thinking he was  hearing Matheney.
>
> The most important place to consider that of  course is the Census stuff, 
I
> wouldn't find half of my ancestors and  buttonhole relatives if I didn't 
> use
> a lot of imagination on  spelling.
>
> Les C
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>  [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Marsha
>  BradleyLuthy
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:24 PM
> To:  or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots]  Matney
>
>
> so which lines is connected to the  Hewitts
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, DanM.  <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:
>
> ok
> the Matheny  folks are not related to the Matney lines ever.
> The Cooper in these  Matheny lines are not related to the Cooper in the
> Matney lines, how  ever these Matheny and Coopers are Walt Davis lines ;)
>
> It  seems back through time tho the Matney and Matheny lines seemed to  
live
> near each other tho.
> I will look in the John Matney and  some of the other text you wrote 
> further
> for more related  info all help even a tiny bit is a big help. I am where 
I
> cant get to  LDS or any research places any more.
> Dan M ;)
> ----- Original  Message ----- From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" 
>  <pmml at meritel.net>
>
> To: "or-roots mail list"  <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>
> Sent: Saturday,  January 30, 2010 8:41 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [or-roots]  Matney
>
>
>
> Polk County Oregon Marriages
>  1846-1855
> MATHNEY, Walter and COOPER, Julia 07 Mar 1853
>  1884
>
>
>
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From djrusty at verizon.net  Mon Feb  1 12:01:04 2010
From: djrusty at verizon.net (Donna Ward)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:01:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Getting 2 copies of all message submitted to this list
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Would anyone know why I am getting 2 copies of every message submitted to
this list?  

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
Broad1000 at aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:40 AM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur

 

I enjoy reading the conversations that pop up but I read the about DLC's
with interest.  I am from Clackamas County so the names mentioned are not
germane to my families.  I don't know when and how land grants were finally
proved up and surveyed and issued but Josiah Burnett's DLC in Douglas County
was issued in 1893, 18 years after he died and 33 years after he left
Douglas County under May 20, 1862: Homestead EntryOriginal (12 Stat. 392).
And he was a surveyor.  We have field notes from many surveys in the
Roseburg area.  Also Philip Foster's DLC was registered in 1877 on land he
purchased in 1847 in Eagle Creek under September 27, 1850: Oregon-Donation
Act (grant) (99 Stat. 496) .  Other family DLC's from Douglas County were
registered in 1865.  Also the original land had been sold or divided in many
cases by the date of issue.  So maybe the number does not related to the
original settlement on the land.

 

Joanne 

Philip Foster Farm

 

 In a message dated 2/1/2010 8:40:20 A.M. Hawaiian Standard Time,
Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes:

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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Mon Feb  1 12:28:32 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:28:32 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Source:  1850 trail list source>The Oregonian Dec 4,
	1925
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All

That issue of the Oregonian is available at GenealogyBank.com.  The entire
newspaper seems to be dedicated to "75 years ago" with many articles
relating to the people and memories of the time.

I sent the settlers page to Dan, and will send it to others if you like.

Pat
In Tucson 



-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:36 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Source: 1850 trail list source>The Oregonian Dec 4,
1925



From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Mon Feb  1 13:59:06 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:59:06 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Source:  1850 trail list source>The Oregonian Dec 4,
	1925
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Well - trying to keep from actually working this afternoon <G>

 

I ran a comparison of the names. The additions/corrections in bold italic
are what she left out, couldn't read, or I read it differently.

 

Have fun.

 

Pat

 

A Surnames

 

Abbott, Mrs. S. F.

Abernethy, Alex S.

Abbott, Mrs. Keturah Ballinger

Adams, John

Adams, Mrs. M. E.

Alford, Mrs. Martha J.

Allen, Henry Stephen

Allen, Kames L.

Allen, Mrs. M. A.

Althouse, J. A.

Anderson, David

Anderson, T. F.

Ankeny, Henry E.

Ankeny, Alexander P..

Applegate, Mrs. Isabelle Estes

Archart[?]George W.

Arnspiger, Mrs. Martha

Arrigoni, Mrs. E.

Ankeny, Levi

Aubrey, Marshall C.

Armentrout, Mrs.

 

"B" Surnames

Berry, Alfred M. (First printer of the Oregonian; was with Mr. Dryer when he
brought the Oregonian [ ]. Dryer was not a printer

Bacon, C P

Beatty, William

Bell, John C

Bills, Lemuel

Bonnell, Allison Clark

Borges, G H

Bowger, N A

Booth, Robert

Bolse, Reuben P

Boynton, Mrs. Mary A

Boynton, Ebenezer L

Boynton, Charles O

Blumauer, Joseph

Blevins, Andrew J

Blevins, John

Barclay, Mrs. Marla Bambrun

Backus, C F

Backus Gideon A

Backus, Mrs M A (Hardman)

Barnard, Timothy

Barnard, Mrs Mary A

Barnes, Mrs Anna

Barnes, Hiel

Barnes, Nelson

Barnes, William Henry

Barnes, Dudley

Bales, Oliver Jackson

Barry, John

Barlow, Mrs Martha (Ann Allen)

Baird, Benjamin C

Baird, Mary Jane

Baker, Lucretia Ann

Baker, Letitia

Baker, William Wills

Brown, J Leonard

Brooke, Mrs Genevieve

Brooks, Mrs Anna

Brooks, Samuel L

Brown, Mrs Ruth

Brackett, William Harlow

Brainerd, W E

Brainerd, Mrs E Maria

Bracy, Edward Boliver

Breyman, Werner

Breitenbucher, Lewis France

Brooks, Henry Jonathan

Brooks, Edgar Seldon

Brooks, Linus

Brooks, Mrs Linus

Brown, Mrs Jimina

Brown, Mary Elizabeth

Brown, Sarah

Brown, Andrew Jackson

Brown, James H

Brown, Joseph Edward

Brown, Nathan A

Brown, Captain Hiram

Brown, James H

Brown, William

Brown, Mrs Huldah A

Brown, Margaret Jane

Brown, Jewett

Brown, Nancy Sophia

Belcher, J Madison

Beckley, Mrs Mary Margaret

Belcher, Mrs Margaret

Belcher, Milton

Belleu, Mrs L C

Belleu, S L

Belleu, M B

Bellinger, Merritt

Belt, Dr. A M

Belt, Mrs Nancy

Benjamin, Mrs. Mary Ann (Mansfield)

Bennett, James Abner

Bennett, Squire

Bergevin, C. L.

Berry, John Alfred

Butler, Rufus

Burge, C. C.

Butler, Isaac M.

Byrd, Mrs. Martha (Savage)

Burnett, James D.

Burt, G. A.

Beckley, Mrs. Mary Margaret Woodson

Beane, James H.

Beane, Joseph N.

Baughman, Captain E. W.

Baughman, Jacob H.

Baum, L

Bates, Mrs. Joseph D. (McBurney)

Birdsey, Mrs. Clara Fleming

 

"C" Surnames

Calavan, James N.

Carson, John C.

Caton, N. T.

Carter, Mrs. W. D.

Carter, William Davis

Caldwell, William Sutton

Chance, Mrs. Sophia Brey

Chance, William

Charlton, Charles A.

Charlton, Joseph  J.

Childers, H. C.

Cheesman, Mrs. Urania Macy

Coffin, S. C.

Cole, George E.

Comegys, Emily J.

Crosby, Mrs. Phebe H.

Crosby, Mrs. Virginia

Cornelius, B. P.

Cloninger, Thomas A.

Cohn, Moritz

Coon, Washington L.

Crosby, Mrs. Phebe

Crimmins, John

Cochran, James

Cook, Mrs. Eliza

Cook, Edwin N.

Cornoyer, Narcisse

Currin, George J.

Coulter, Samuel

Cochran, James

Comegys, George

Connor, Mrs. Jane

Condit, Mrs. Abigail Brown

 

"D" Surnames

 

Davenport, T. W.

Davis, Thomas A.

Davis, Warren

Dunbar, David Sherman

Duniway, Benjamin C.

Dudley, John B.

Duskin, Oscar T.

Durham, Richard L.

Dorman, Mrs. J. M.

Dobelbower, William B.

Doane, Mrs. Matilda

Doane, Rev. Nehemiah

Denison, Ami P.

Donaldson, John

Dowell, Benjamin Franklin

Douglas, Oswell T.

Dryer, Thomas Jefferson

Deardoff, David

Davidson, Isaac G.

Davidson, John

Davidson, Elijah

Davidson, Elijah B.

Davis, Thomas A.

Davidson, Mrs. Saloma Jones

Dart, Mrs. Ellen McNulty

Davis, Alvah Isaiah

Davis, Mrs. Isabella Laughlin

Davis, David

Day, Phoeba E.

 

"E" Surnames

Elliott, James Monroe

Elliott, Mrs. Celia Ann Paul

Elkins, Mrs. Lucy Jane Zumwalt

English, Mrs. Mary

Ellerson, John H.

Ebbert, Mrs. James

Estes, Edwin A.

Estes, Elijah

Estes, Mrs. Hannah Tade

Emerson, Mrs. Mary Jane Sherwood Hendricks

Elliott, John

Elliott, Samuel

 

"F" Surnames

Florence, Mrs. Catherine S.

Fountain, Caleb

Foster, J. H.

Foster, J. N.

Folsom, Mrs. Phoebe

Fowler, Andrew Jackson

Franklin, S. B.

Frost, Mrs. Matilda Price

Fuller, Mrs. Louisa E. R.

Farrar, Mrs. Abbie Hatch

Fackler, Rev. St. Michael

Fackler, Annie Elizabeth

Ferguson, Mrs. Jane

Finnican, Mrs. Elizabeth Ladd

Fitzhugh, Solomon

Fitzhugh, John

Florence, A. B.

Florence, Mrs. Catherine S.

Flora, Frederick

Foudray, Sarah Alice

 

"G" Surnames

Gatton, S.

Gaines, Abner P.

Gaines, Mrs. Elizabeth

Gaines, John P.

Garrett, Henry D.

Gay, Samuel

Geer, Mrs. Eliza E. (Foster)

Gibbs, Addison C.

Green, Mrs. Kate

Guthrie, Mrs. Mary

Grooms, Mrs. Agnes

Grooms, William

Grubb, T. N.

Griggs, Mrs. Amanda

Grubbs, Benjamin J.

Grubbs, Mrs. Eliz. Ann Liggett

Groves, William

Groves, Mrs. Emma Horning

Gray, Hiram

Gillihan, Mrs. Sarah Catherine Howell

Glass, Robert

Glass, William

Gibson, George William

Griffin, Mrs. Emily Catherine Roberts

Griffin, B. L.

Griffith, Mrs. Maria Clifton

Griffith, Chisholm

 

"H" Surnames

Haskins, J.J.

Haskins, Mrs. J. J.

Hayden, Mrs. Mary Jane (Bean)

Heater, Benjamin

Hearn, Tluming H.

Hancock, Thomas

Hartin, John H.

Hawthorne, James DeCrosset

Handley, Charles

Hayter, Thomas Jefferson

Hibbard, George L.

Higgins, W. S.

Higgins, George Wash.

Henness, Rebecca

Henness, Benjamin Lee

Heater, Mrs. Mary J.

Henrici, William E.

Hendershott, Mrs. E. J.

Heator, Benjamin

Handley, Thomas B.

Haynes, George

Hart, George W.

Hamilton, David

Hamilton, Edward

Harn, Mrs. Julia Reed

Hartin, George

Harris, W. H.

Hagard, William C.

Hammitt, Norman

Hamilton, Jason C.

Hamilton, Samuel Milton

Harding, Elisha Jenkins

Haskins, Mrs. J. J.

Haskins, J. J.

Harris, William

Howell, Dr. Benjamin

Howell, Mrs. Benjamin

Howell, Thomas

Hubbard, C. S.

Hull, Orley

Huelat, Septimus

Huddleston, James

Hussey, Stephen

Hussey, Mary E. (Young)

Hunt, James

Huber, Noah

Hurt, Moses

Hunsaker, Harrison King

Hesline, Mrs. Drusilla

Hardenburgh, P. D. W.

Handley, Thomas B.

Hanaley, Mrs. Sarah Burton

Hall, William

 

"I" Surnames

Irvin, Richard

Irvin, Mrs. Louisa

Irving, Elizabeth (Dixon)

 

"J" Surnames

Jefferson, Delos

Johnson, Joseph D.

Johnson, Mrs. Mary

Jones, Mrs. Sarah Ann Hall

Jones, Silas

Jones, Mrs. Mary Evaline Baird

Jewett, Leonard

Jewett, Thomas Drake

Jewett, Waldo

Jewett, Mrs. Emma Brown

Jackson, Mrs. Harriett

Jackson, Jerome

Joslyn, Mrs. Mary Baker

Johnson, William C.

Junkins, Mrs. Mary

Johnson, William

Job, Mrs. Lydia

Judy, Mrs. Mary Jane

Johnson, Samuel Thurston

Johnson, Joseph

Jolly, William

Johnson, Samuel

 

"K" Surnames

Keyt, E. C.

Kenyon, Frank

Keiser, Jerome J.

Kamm, Jacob

Kirtley, Jane L.

Koontz, Mrs. Charlotte Summers

Knott, Andrew J.

Kruse, John

 

"L" Surnames

Lackey, John

Ladd, Mrs. Sarah

Lewis, William F.

Lewis,  Neal Matilda

Lacy, James C.

Livermore, Lot

Lemont, Franers E.

Lambert, Joseph Hamilton

Leonard, H. C.

Laughlin, John

Large, Mrs. Mary

Lee, Reuben

Leisy,  Isaac

Letson (not Larson), John

Langford, W. G.

Large, Francis

Linn, David

Logan, Hugh

Lindsay, Horace

Lieser, Mrs. Eliz.

Livergood, Mrs. Louisa J. Ramsey

Lord, Mrs. Mary E. (Brown)

Lord, Mrs. Elizabeth (Laughlin)

Lowell, Daniel W.

Linnville, Mrs. Amanda F. (Davidson)

Laraut,  Narcisse

Lamberson, Mrs. Sarah Elizabeth (Perry)

Laughlin, Susannah McCoy

Lee, Mrs. Nancy Laughlin

Laughlin, W. C.

Laughlin, Mrs. Mary J. (Yergain)

Laughlin, James

Laughlin, Frank B.

Laughlin, Davis Washington

Laughlin, James

Laughlin, Mrs. Nancy (McCoy)

Lindsay, Horace

Lucas, Thomas

 

"M" Surnames

Melissa (Walker)

Markeley, John Chambers

Mack, Mrs. Helen

Martindale, A.

Marckley, Mrs. Lucinda

Marrs, Mrs. L. E.

Maynard, Mrs. Mary

Matney, Carrie B.

Martin, Mrs. Mary Julia

Martin, James P.

Martin, James Thurston

Micott (Micou?), John

Minto, Squire Bozorth

Miles, Samuel

Miles, Samuel Allen

Mitchell, James

Miller, John C.

Miller, Mrs. Marion

Miller, Frank M.

Miller, Betsey Ann

Miller, Mrs. Jane (McDonald)

Miller Mart.

Miller, J. W. (Rev)

Morris, W. C.

McClane, George F.

McPherson, William Angus

McCord, William R.

McKee, Mrs. B. F.

McKay, David Allen

McKee, Mrs. Lydia

McKee, James

McKee, Benj Franklin

McKenney, Peter

McKern, Luke

McLeran, Mrs. Elizabeth Adelaide (King)

McMorris, Lewis

McMulin, Frank Wise

McLench, Benjamin Franklin

Moore, Edwin Marshall

Moore, A. H.

Morris, A. B.

Moore, John W.

Morris, W. C.

Morris, Clarence L.

Morris, Preston

Murphy, John Miller

Murray, Henry

Morgan, Samuel

Miller, Mrs. Sarah Jane (Hutchinson)

Marden, Mrs. Harriet Reed

 

"N" Surnames

Nicklin, Thomas L.

Nicklin, John G. O.

Nicklin, Jno. Huff

Nicklin, Arthur Ingram

Nicklin, Mrs. Sarah

Nelson, Andrew Jefferson

Narris, Shubrick

Newell, G. Palmer

Nye, Nathan B.

 

"O" Surnames

O'Connor, Thomas

O'Sullivan, Timothy

Orton, Alfred

 

"P" Surnames

Preston, Mrs. Mary A. (Skidmore)

Porter, Mrs. Susan Gibson (Turner)

Porter, Robert Moffatt

Pointer, William

Porterfield, Mrs. Ruth

Porterfield, J. E.

Powell, D. J. P.

Pouty, Christian

Pointer, Theodora

Pitman, Mrs. Lousie Savage

Piette, John B. P.

Plummer, Mrs. Martha Elizabeth

Pinkley, Joseph

Pinkton, Harrison

Phillips, James T.

Peake, F. S.

Perdue, Mrs. Mary Frances (Mills)

Pack, Christopher Columbus

Patterson, William N.

Peuthand, Jane (Lox)

Partlow, James M.

Patton, William

Pattison, Charles

Peterson, Mrs. Mary E. Hussey

Parrish, Rolando

Parrish, Jessie

Parrish, Edward

Paul, Mrs. Hannah Jane Elliott

Pinkley, Joseph

Paxton, A. B.

Parker, Edmund A.

Palmer, B. P.

Peebles, John C.

Palmateer, Seth

Pease, Geo. Archibald Capt

Painter, Joseph Clark

Painter, William C.

Peebler,  Mrs. Iramiller Grubbe

Painter, Phillip

Pritchette, Kintzing

 

"R" Surnames

Riggs, John J.

Richardson, Mrs. Eliza J. (Barclay)

Richardson, Mrs. Sarah Elizabeth (Dofflemyer) Chapman Young

Rigdon, Stephen

Risdon, David M.

Rice, Isadore E.

Rilea, James

Rickard, Mrs. Mary Elizabeth

Ritchie, John McClung

Rowland, Mrs. Mary E.  (Huntree)

Roberts, James B.

Roberts, Samuel Houston

Roberts, Isaac

Roberts, Mrs. Elizabeth (Connor)

Robinson, Dr. J. W.

Robinson, Mrs. Susan Millegan

Riggs, Mrs. Evaline H. (Nicklin)

Ritz, Phillip

Renton, William

Redman, Christopher Columbus

Reed, Thomas M.

Reed, Calvin

Reed, D. Gay

Reed, Benjamin Calvin

Reed, George Nelson

Reasoner, Francis Northway

 

"S" Surnames

Sanford, R

Short, Mrs. Henrietta (Zumwalt)

Shepherd, Mrs. Martha W. Allen

Settlemier, Martin R.

Shaver, George W.

Sherrett, Mr.

Shortridge,  James Henderson

Sherlock, William

Sherwood, Mrs. Hannah Sopronia (Bonney).

Silver, C. S.

Silver, Mrs. C. S.

Short, Mrs. Henrietta Zumwalt

Simpson, Richard L.

Simmons, Jno S.

Simmons, Wheelock

Simpson, Mrs. Emily Ring Smith

Skidmore, Andrew R.

Skidmore, Mrs. Sarah Ann (Slater)

Skidmore, Charles

Skidmore, Stephen Griggs

Slater, James H.

Sleppy, Mrs. Nancy (Brown)

Skaife, Jasper Newton

Skaife, Mrs. Marietta Hiles

Skaife, John

Sitton, Mrs. Ida (Skidmroe)

Silver, Stephen W.

Silver, Mrs. Sarah (Fairfield)

Stiwer, Frederick

Stitzel, Jacob

Staats, Henry

Stout, J. L.

Stillwell, Mrs. Elizabeth (Baxter)

Stark, Henry A.

Staiger, Mrs. Martha Jane (Woodworth)

Staiger, M. J. (Woodworth)

Strong, Curtis Clark

Starkweather, William A.

Stevens, Mrs. Crawford

Story, George L.

Starr, N. A.

Starr, Willits

Settlemier, Mary C. Woodworth

Settlemier, Maria Eleanor C

Settlemier, Jesse Holland

Slavin, John A.

Smith, Mrs, Arethusa E. (Lynn).

Smith, Lucius Miles

Smith, Charles W.

Smith, Mrs. Hannah Moore (Stone)

Smith, William B.

Smith, J. C.

Sawyers, Andrew

Savage, H. H.

Salisbury, George Washington

Salisbury, Mrs. George W.

Salisbury, Alice

Schrivner, J. E.

Schnebly, David J.

Schnebly, G. W.

Scriber, Mrs. M. J.

Scribner, J. W.

Savage, Mrs. Jane (Wait)

Savage, John M.

Scribner, Charles Walgrove

Sanford, R.

Sawyer, Joseph

Scott, Mrs. Charlotte (Barnes)

Savage, Mrs. Thomas (Jane)

Savier, T. A.

Sarjent, F. Nelson

 

"T" Surnames

Torrance, E. A.

Tillard, Samuel

Toney, Mrs. William L

Tomlinson, Mrs. Almira Gingles

Townsend, Washington R

Tuffs, Jas. Priestley

Trenchard, C. J.

Taylor, Elbert E.

Thomas, Roderick R.

Tallman, James

Tallman, Mrs. Catherine Ranous

Templeton, James

Thompson, A. S.

Thomas, John

Thompson, Henry R.

Thomas, Mrs. Jane Gage Goodhue

 

"V" Surnames

 

Vaughn, George Washington

 

"W" Surnames

Waterman, John Orvis

Woodworth, Mrs. Jane (Sullivan)

Woodson, William T.

Woodworth, Mrs. S. V. (Wade)

Wilmot, Richard B.

Woods, Mrs. Charlotte L. Capers

Woodward, Henry H.

Wooddy, Claiborne Alphonso

Wood, Zina Wilkinson

Wood, Mrs. Mary Whitman Murphy

Woodworth, George Washington

Woodworth, Joseph Merritt

Woodsworth, Franklin Newland

Wade, Mrs. Sarah V. (Woodworth)

Wantz, Mrs. Allen

Wakefield, Leland Howard

Watts, Marvel Markham

Watts, Mrs. Nancy Ann (Knighton)

Wright, Elsie D.

Wygatt, Theodora

Weeks, Rueben

West, Harry

Weeden, Mrs. Nancy Jane (Wood) Hale

Weaver, James B.

Weaver, John W.

Weaver, Wm. Lewis

Weaver, Mrs.

Worsham, Mrs. R. W.

White, Charles

White, W. L.

White, Mrs. Mary E.

White, William

White, Oliver Cromwell

Whitlock, William T.

White, Mrs. Mary Elizabeth (Partlow)

White, William Lewis

White, Shallom

White, W. L.

White, Mrs. Juretta

Wilson, John Wesley

Wilmot, Robert Fletcher

Wilkins, Jasper

Wilmot, Robert P.

Wilmot, Richard Benjamin

Wilson, John

Wilson, John (these are different)

Wilson, Bushrod

Warren, Jay

Williams, Mrs. Sarah (Salisbury)

Wilmot, Mrs. Nancy (Stone)

Winter, Mrs. Margaret E. (Heater)

Whitman, John

Whitman, William A.

Whitman, Mrs. Elizabeth Davidson

Whitman, Squire

Whitman, Margaret Adarene

White, Mrs. Mary Jane Clements

Ward, Ira Frederick

Waters, Abner W.

Wade, William

Wade, Mrs. Sarah (Dunham)

Wait, Sylvester M.

Walker, William Wallan

Walker, Levi C.

Walker, Sterry

Walker, Samuel

Wagner, Jacob

 

"Y" Surnames

Yocum, H.

Young, Mrs. Mary (Hussey)

Young, Joseph R.

Young, Stephen A.

 

"Z" Surnames

Zieber, Mrs. Charlotte Monoir

Zumwalt, Levi W.

Zumwalt, D. B.

Zumwalt, Henry J.

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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 14:23:42 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:23:42 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
Dan
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> O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either Umatilla
> or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but I
> am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
> there?
> Dale
>  


From dharguess at coastline.edu  Mon Feb  1 14:49:25 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
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I see what you mean about the boonies.  You are a long ways from Burns.


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google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
Dan
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> O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either
Umatilla
> or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but
I
> am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
> there?
> Dale
>  
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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  1 15:08:13 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:08:13 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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DanM. wrote:

> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north. 


so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of 
the night sky out that way.

you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in 
Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a 
metropolis compared to your 40 acres

pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647

.Bill Strickland


From dharguess at coastline.edu  Mon Feb  1 15:28:30 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:28:30 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?

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Bill Strickland
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:08 PM
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DanM. wrote:

> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north. 


so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of

the night sky out that way.

you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in 
Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a 
metropolis compared to your 40 acres

pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647

.Bill Strickland
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  1 15:57:56 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:57:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon
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Greetings all!


I've been busy trying to get some of the wealth of information I've been collecting processed and put into a usable format for people to find while online. My motivation has been the steady growth in popularity of the Genealogytrails websites. I started tracking statistics on it about a year and  half ago, and at the time, the average visits to the site per day were 2-3 visits, of about a minute average length. When I send out an update like this one, it causes a big spike in the statistics, but then it settles down to "normal" again. But normal is now about 14 people day, with an average time on the site of 15 minutes!

Here's the list of what's been put online for December and January - my thanks too the people who have provided me with material to use for these updates (you know who you are!) and I still have a lot more to turn into web pages, so watch for more updates soon. I hope you find something for each of your families from Coos county!

1) New 1855 Jury List provided by Andie Jensen. Was your pioneer family here before the 1860 census? 

2) New 1949 Myrtle Point Phone book page, Surnames A-G 

3) Newspaper clipping on the wreck of the Beda in 1886

4) Updated the Coos county Mason/Masonic Lodge members. Added 23 additional Masons to Masonic Lodge members in Coos County, making a list of over 240 known Masons

5) New Coroner's Inquests page, with 315 deaths in Coos county investigated by the Coos County
Coroner (Notes are being researched and shared courtesy of Andie
Jensen).

6) Updated the Cemetery listing page to show all sources for cemetery listings, number of interments, and maps to cemeteries where known. 

7) Added five more biographies to the Pioneer History of Coos and Curry County page from 1898 

8) Added 6 new members to the American Legion webpage 

9) Births, Deaths, Marriages and Illnesses [Over 100 new obituaries, 10 new birth announcements, 40 illness mentions, 60 marriages] 

10) Added another page to the 1893 Tax Assessment Index, surnames beginning with 'HA'

11) Added two new schools to schoolslist, Twin Oaks and Riverton, with photographs and additional information (as available) 

12) Added new IOOF page with 18 known members, both men and women 

13) Created new community page for Bullards, Bandon area with 50 names mentioned 

14) Marriage Record Summary created for 160 Coos county marriages - featuring the names, dates, minister, place of marriage and witnesses 

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)


      
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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  1 16:37:36 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:37:36 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Harguess, Dale wrote:

>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>

That is one 1873 theory, but McArthur easily debunks it, so it makes one 
wonder ...  another theory is named by another Scotsman, Steele, reason 
unknown -- of course, those earlier Paisly settlers called it something 
else 10,000 years before it was ever seen by the white guy's eyes, and 
probably many, many other native names in between ...

Bill Strickland


From dharguess at coastline.edu  Mon Feb  1 16:43:51 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:43:51 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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It would be interesting to look at the census from 1850 to see if there
were any Scottish people living there.  I have recently been doing
research on Paisley Scotland and that is why I asked the question.  It
turns out to be the largest city in Scotland.  Even bigger than Glasgow.
The cloth Paisley was named after the city, not vise-versa.  It turns
out that they were a weaving community many hundreds of years ago.
Just a little trivia fyi.
Dale

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Harguess, Dale wrote:

>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>

That is one 1873 theory, but McArthur easily debunks it, so it makes one

wonder ...  another theory is named by another Scotsman, Steele, reason 
unknown -- of course, those earlier Paisly settlers called it something 
else 10,000 years before it was ever seen by the white guy's eyes, and 
probably many, many other native names in between ...

Bill Strickland
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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Mon Feb  1 17:03:17 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:03:17 -0800
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There are four Paisley's in the world, Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland; 
Paisley, Ontario, Canada; Paisley Lake, Florida and Paisley, Lake, Oregon

Tradition tells us that Charles Mitchell-Innes suggested the village be 
named named Paisley, after his hometown of Paisley in Scotland.  He was 
quite a horseman.  Mitchell-Innes is buried in the Paisley cemetery.

Diane


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:28 PM
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>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?



From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Mon Feb  1 17:09:52 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:09:52 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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The original settlement was not Paisley, but Chewaucan.  That area was 
located several miles south of Paisley.  What person wanted to live by a 
river, infested by mosquitoes and a rocky bank?  Prone to flooding.  But in 
time, the river was dredged to the  north side of what is now Paisley, banks 
built along the river banks (still will flood tho!!) and homes built. 
Chewaucan was abandoned except now for a cemetery on private land with a few 
boards still in the area as a reminder of days gone by.
Diane


rom: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> Harguess, Dale wrote:
>
>>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>>
>
> That is one 1873 theory, but McArthur easily debunks it, so it makes one 
> wonder ...  another theory is named by another Scotsman, Steele, reason 
> unknown -- of course, those earlier Paisly settlers called it something 
> else 10,000 years before it was ever seen by the white guy's eyes, and 
> probably many, many other native names in between ...
>
> Bill Strickland
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Mon Feb  1 17:19:36 2010
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 01:19:36 +0000 (UTC)
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I have not been through Christmas Valley in a long time, was to Paisley this past summer and seen Diane, and took photos of the Summer Lake and Paisley Cemeteries, I Antelope Hunt just South of Burns. 

My Wife's step-brother lives in Crescent Oregon 

Glen Jones Portland 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 3:28:30 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat 

I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland? 

-----Original Message----- 
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris & 
Bill Strickland 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:08 PM 
To: or-roots mail list 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat 

DanM. wrote: 

> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north. 


so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh? ?nice views of 

the night sky out that way. 

you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in 
Paisley, and I got relatives out there ?of course, Paisley is a 
metropolis compared to your 40 acres 

pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647 

.Bill Strickland 
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  1 17:34:55 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:34:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Some interesting Oregon tidbits from the Spokane
	Register, 1895
Message-ID: <67696.47024.qm@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Rev.
Edgar P. Hill of Freeport, Ill. Has been given the unanimous call to
the First Presbyterian church of Portland
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895

Mrs.
Joseph Dixon died at her home on Oak creek, near Corvallis, last
Sunday. She was born in Missouri on 1830, and came to Oregon in 1853.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895

Mrs.
Savanahh Hall, 53 years old, and a pioneer of 1853, died at Myrtle
Creek last week. Her husband, John Hall, has served three terms as
commissioner of Douglas county.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895

William
Levens, who was working a claim on Tennessee gulch, has, it is
thought, one of the best paying mines in southern Oregon. He was in
Canyonville recently with $700 to $800 in gold dust taken out of two
or three sluice boxes.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895

There
was a tripple wedding at Brownsville Sunday morning, the brides being
the three daughters of Mrs. Booker. Miss Josie was married to Joseph
Harrison, Miss Etta to Allen Chastain, and Miss Ella to William H.
Templeton.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895

The
name Eureka postoffice at Cracker Creek, the scene of operation of
the E. & E. mines, has been changed to Bourne, in honor of Mr.
Jonathan Bourne, Jr., one of the stockholders of the Eureka and
Excelsior Consolidated Mining Company and known as the free silver
champion of Portland. Mr. J. Henry Longmaid had the honor of
christening the new post office and the postmaster is Mr. R.R.
Weatherred.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895

She
Was A Pioneer
Mrs.
James Monaghan Dies After an Illnes of Several Weeks Leaving Six
Children. Robert, the Eldest, Arrived From Annapolis In Time to Be at
Her Bedside

Mrs.
Margaret Monaghan, wife of James Monaghan, died at her home near
Gonzaga college at 8 o'clock last night, aged 43 years and 9 months.
She had been ill for several weeks with rheumatism and la grippe and
her death was not unexpected. A week ago physicians decided that she
could not recover.

She
leaves besides her husband six children, three girls and three boys,
Robert, who is a cadet in the United States naval academy at
Annapolis, being the eldest. Robert arrived home two days ago in
answer to a telegram summoning him to his mother's bedside.

Mrs.
Monaghan was one of the pioneer women of the northwest. She came to
Walla Walla with her parents from Ireland in 1859, when she was 7
years old, and was married to Mr. Monaghan at Walla Walla in 1871.
They moved to Fort Coville and subsequently lived at Fort Spokane and
Coeur d'Alene City, finally settling down in Spokane. Mrs. Monaghan's
maiden name was McCool, and her aged parents are still living at
Walla Walla, Hugh McCool, collector of customs at Northport, is her
brother, as are also Joseph and James McCool. She was a lady of
lovable qualities and was possessed of a hindly disposition which
made her many friends.

Mr.
Monaghan, who is one of the earliest pioneer settlers of the
northwest, and his family, will receive the sympathy of friends
throughout Washington, Oregon, Idaho and British Columbia in their
great loss.

?She
was essentially a pioneer woman, with all the attributes of the
founders of this great commonwealth.? said Hon. M.M. Cowley last
night. ?She was full of charity, generous-hearted to a degree
seldom known, sweet-tempered, modest, gifted with a graciousness not
often surpassed. She was conspicuous for her goodness, perfect in her
reliance upon the goodness of God and the virtue of her neighbors,
the sweetest of mothers, the best of wives, the most dutiful of
daughters. She went to meet her Creator believing and trusting in the
life to come with a convincing strength that never failed.?

The
arrangements for the funeral have not been made and will be announced
later.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895

Samuel
F. Staggs died at McMinnville April 13, aged 78. He crossed the
plains from Missouri, reaching Oregon in 1846.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895

W.H.
Byars, the new commandant of the soldier's home, has arrived at
Roseburg, and is getting in readiness to assume his office on May 1.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895

Portland
? Isaac Barnes, one of the old residents of Portland, died at the
residence of his son, Frederick Barnes. He was 83 years of age, and
first came to this county in from England in 1813, locating in
Albany, N.Y. After two years he went back to England, but returned
shortly afterward and engaged in the business of brushmaking in New
York. In 1856 he removed with his family to Iowa, and in 1861 crossed
the plains for Oregon, and ever since he lived in the vicinity of
Portland
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896

Baker
City ? Fannie Jenkins, aged 14, daughter of Captain Wm. [William]
Jenkins, a miner employed at the Virtue mine, while walking from
their cottage to a neighbor's house with her little brother in her
arms, stumbled, and in trying to save the child from being injured,
fell backward and broke her neck. Death was instantaneous. The place
where she fell is as level as a floor.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896

Oregon
? Doc Burns, a 10-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. Henry Burns, came
near drowning in the Olalla the other day. He had gone swimming and
by some means got beyond his depth, when his mother noticed him and
screamed for help. J.M. ___[unreadable], who was cutting hay nearby, ran to the
rescue and, plunging in the water, caught the boy as he was going
under the third time. A little care brought the boy around all right.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896

La
Grande? News has been received from Fox Hill that Joseph Leasey was
accidentally killed by being thrown from a wagon loaded with wood.
Leasey and a number of others from Island City went upon the hill for
wood. It is supposed that the accident was caused by a brake of the
wagon giving way, but no particulars have been received.  
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

Portland
? C.F. Kent, a well known citizen of Oregon, died suddenly at the
home of his step-daughter, Mrs. Jesse Crame. Mr. Kent was 75 years of
age. He came to Oregon in 1863, and for some time was engaged in the
mines of southern Oregon. He was a quartermaster during the war of
the rebellion. He leaves a widow to mourn his loss.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

The
Dalles- Mrs. S.A. Davenport was this morning adjudged insane, and
will be taken to the asylum in the morning. She is flighty on the
subject of Christian science and it is hoped a few weeks, or at most
a month's treatment, may restore her mental balance, says the
Chronicle.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

Roseburg
? Mrs. Sheridan, the wife of Thomas Sheridan, Sr., died at her
residence the other afternoon. Mrs. Sheridan had been an invalid for
a number of years. She was an old pioneer of this county, and left a
husband and four sons.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

Kendrick,
Idaho ? J.S. Falls, better known to the people of this country as
?Old California?, shuffled off this mortal coil last Friday
morning. A little more than six months ago he was sentenced to the
Nez Perce county jail for selling liqour to the Indians, and about
two weeks after the completion of his sentence he died of heart
failure. His remains were interred at Lewiston last Saturday at the
county's expense. And now every time the eye gazes upon the little
log cabin in Brady Gulch, the memory will recall many peculiar
incidents in his checkered career, says the Times.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

DEATH
OF A WALLA WALLA PIONEER
Had Lived
in the County for About Forty Years.
?Walla
Walla. Wash.. Nov. 30.-A. S. Van Horrn, an old pioneer, died in the
hospital in this city last night of congestion of the liver. He was
born in Pennsylvania in 1833, crossed the plains in 1849 and settled
in Salt Lake. He came to Walla Walla in 1859 and was one of the best
known pioneers in eastern Washington.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

Joe
Twyman, another old-timer, 73 years of age., was found dead in a
house five miles west of the city this morning. He lived alone on
what is known as the old Coe farm. As he had not been seen for
several days, his neighbors went to his home this morning and found
him lying dead on the floor. He lay near a stove, an arm load of wood
beside him, and his white locks covered with the snow which had
drifted on him. He had gloves on his hands, and sacks wrapped around
his feet, indicating that he entered the house just before he died.
The supposed cause was heart disease. Twyman had lived in this county
40 years and at one time was well-to-do, but it is said he gave away
most of his property to a woman with whom he was infatuated, who
abandoned him shortly after she secured possession.
Spokesman-Review,
Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

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coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)



      
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb  1 17:48:17 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:48:17 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon
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And what are you doing with ALL of your free time Robyn?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robyn
Greenlund
  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:58 PM
  To: OR-Roots
  Cc: OR-Coos
  Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon


  Greetings all!


  I've been busy trying to get some of the wealth of information I've been
collecting processed and put into a usable format for people to find while
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb  1 18:00:03 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:00:03 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAEGLCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

The Dalles- Mrs. S.A. Davenport was this morning adjudged insane, and will
be taken to the asylum in the morning. She is flighty on the subject of
Christian science and it is hoped a few weeks, or at most a month's
treatment, may restore her mental balance, says the Chronicle.

Okay; did Christian Science make her flighty or was she judge insane because
she was a Christian Scientist or because she was flighty on Christian
Science?

Actually insanity was pretty broad, a several members of my family spent
varying periods of times at the Oregon home for the mentally bewildered
because of thyroid imbalance. Not always voluntarily.

Les C




From pmml at meritel.net  Mon Feb  1 18:23:22 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:23:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
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i KNOW SOME OF THE HARRIS WERE OVER INDEPENDEDENCE OH BY THE WAY THE
HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS INFORMATION ON THEM.  then you can find them at 
dufur.  I have a
listing for some there as well.  My family was at 7 mile.  Hey les did you 
try china cemetery for Matney
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County


> Where were the Harris' from originally?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:55 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
>
> Well shucks no Matney LOL.
> My wife has Harris how about the William Harris ?
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
> To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
>
>
>>I should have done this earlier, but here is the index, for what it is
>> worth.  I say that because it is far from complete -- especially where
>
>> wives
>> and children were concerned. But here goes:
> > Harris, William
>
>
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  1 18:52:45 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:52:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon
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Free time - what's that?

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)




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To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 5:48:17 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon

 
And 
what are you doing with ALL of your free time Robyn?
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>From: >  or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
>  [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robyn 
>  Greenlund
>Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:58 PM
>To: >  OR-Roots
>Cc: OR-Coos
>Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos 
>  County, Oregon
>
>
>Greetings all!
>
>
>I've 
>  been busy trying to get some of the wealth of information I've been collecting 
>  processed and put into a usable format for people to find while online. 
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From vkassing at mywdo.com  Mon Feb  1 18:52:35 2010
From: vkassing at mywdo.com (ViolaRae)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:52:35 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Dan,
Try Klamath Falls!  It is a gold mine of old metal.  If while I was out
there in 2003-2004-2005 you had said you wanted a caste iron Dutch oven I
had several around the homestead.  There was a lot of camping equipment and
metal parts.  You'd have loved it!

Viola Rae Kassing

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 12:31 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

I cant afford Ancestry nor can I afford a newer version of FTM.
   I also got word today they are raising rates to 200 buks.
So with being retired is what people want, I worked when wages were very low

and don't get a lot of SS so after every things paid, I got a few buks to 
put upgrades on the out in the boonies homestead. This month we are looking 
for a Dutch oven for campfire, the hanging type, also one to make bread in.
   Then I have a special wind mill to make and need some scrap piles for 
parts, scavenging is fun, never know what you can do with junk.
   As for my little bit of spending money I was looking for some places to 
find used items like second hand stores in the area. I was wondering about 
Burns and places on that side of us rather than always going to Bend and 
Redmond we wore those out.
  Lots of things I could cart home if I could find them, yard sales, 
freebies etc..
Now as for the current genealogy Items - any thing on Julia, Walter as 
mentioned before, I am up dating my website working with the first name I 
have proof of `who is` Broadwater Matney, great great grand father also was 
sposed to be on the 1850 trail to Oregon. We don't have a picture so far as 
we know.
   See www.d-matney.com for my project.
Dan M
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From: "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur


> Dan
>
> The one I use is on Ancestry.com. It's much easier to search.
>
> Pat
> In Tucson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:30 AM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
>
> Where is this book of DLC?
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Thomas Dove Keizur
> > In the book they start with number one and are consecutive for the 
> > entire
>> 5289 DLC's, perhaps Denise has the right idea in that perhaps TD was the
>> first one to stake a bonafide DLC, either in his area or period, but
>> others
>> filed theirs first.
>
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From familyismytreasure at comcast.net  Mon Feb  1 18:58:29 2010
From: familyismytreasure at comcast.net (Marilyn Schwartz)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:58:29 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon
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Robyn,

 

Thank you!  These little news tidbits are great reading!

 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robyn
Greenlund
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:58 PM
To: OR-Roots
Cc: OR-Coos
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon

Greetings all!


I've been busy trying to get some of the wealth of information I've been
collecting processed and put into a usable format for people to find while
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From denisesproed at onlinenw.com  Mon Feb  1 19:39:18 2010
From: denisesproed at onlinenw.com (Denise Sproed)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:39:18 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Some interesting Oregon tidbits from the
	SpokaneRegister, 1895
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Are you putting Spokane tidbits online also?  I have alot of Oregon families that migrated to Eastern WA (Spokane, Rosalia, etc).

Denise
Researcher of AGEE, ATTERBURY, BELIEU, FALES, GAGE, GILLIAM, KENT, LANDRETH, LITTLE, LIVINGSTON, MATTHEWS, SHAFF, etc
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robyn Greenlund 
  To: OR-Roots 
  Cc: Early Oregonians ; Stephanie Flora ; Shauna L Williams 
  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:34 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Some interesting Oregon tidbits from the SpokaneRegister, 1895


  Rev. Edgar P. Hill of Freeport, Ill. Has been given the unanimous call to the First Presbyterian church of Portland

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895




  Mrs. Joseph Dixon died at her home on Oak creek, near Corvallis, last Sunday. She was born in Missouri on 1830, and came to Oregon in 1853.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895




  Mrs. Savanahh Hall, 53 years old, and a pioneer of 1853, died at Myrtle Creek last week. Her husband, John Hall, has served three terms as commissioner of Douglas county.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895




  William Levens, who was working a claim on Tennessee gulch, has, it is thought, one of the best paying mines in southern Oregon. He was in Canyonville recently with $700 to $800 in gold dust taken out of two or three sluice boxes.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895




  There was a tripple wedding at Brownsville Sunday morning, the brides being the three daughters of Mrs. Booker. Miss Josie was married to Joseph Harrison, Miss Etta to Allen Chastain, and Miss Ella to William H. Templeton.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895




  The name Eureka postoffice at Cracker Creek, the scene of operation of the E. & E. mines, has been changed to Bourne, in honor of Mr. Jonathan Bourne, Jr., one of the stockholders of the Eureka and Excelsior Consolidated Mining Company and known as the free silver champion of Portland. Mr. J. Henry Longmaid had the honor of christening the new post office and the postmaster is Mr. R.R. Weatherred.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895




  She Was A Pioneer

  Mrs. James Monaghan Dies After an Illnes of Several Weeks Leaving Six Children. Robert, the Eldest, Arrived From Annapolis In Time to Be at Her Bedside




  Mrs. Margaret Monaghan, wife of James Monaghan, died at her home near Gonzaga college at 8 o'clock last night, aged 43 years and 9 months. She had been ill for several weeks with rheumatism and la grippe and her death was not unexpected. A week ago physicians decided that she could not recover.




  She leaves besides her husband six children, three girls and three boys, Robert, who is a cadet in the United States naval academy at Annapolis, being the eldest. Robert arrived home two days ago in answer to a telegram summoning him to his mother's bedside.




  Mrs. Monaghan was one of the pioneer women of the northwest. She came to Walla Walla with her parents from Ireland in 1859, when she was 7 years old, and was married to Mr. Monaghan at Walla Walla in 1871. They moved to Fort Coville and subsequently lived at Fort Spokane and Coeur d'Alene City, finally settling down in Spokane. Mrs. Monaghan's maiden name was McCool, and her aged parents are still living at Walla Walla, Hugh McCool, collector of customs at Northport, is her brother, as are also Joseph and James McCool. She was a lady of lovable qualities and was possessed of a hindly disposition which made her many friends.




  Mr. Monaghan, who is one of the earliest pioneer settlers of the northwest, and his family, will receive the sympathy of friends throughout Washington, Oregon, Idaho and British Columbia in their great loss.




  ?She was essentially a pioneer woman, with all the attributes of the founders of this great commonwealth.? said Hon. M.M. Cowley last night. ?She was full of charity, generous-hearted to a degree seldom known, sweet-tempered, modest, gifted with a graciousness not often surpassed. She was conspicuous for her goodness, perfect in her reliance upon the goodness of God and the virtue of her neighbors, the sweetest of mothers, the best of wives, the most dutiful of daughters. She went to meet her Creator believing and trusting in the life to come with a convincing strength that never failed.?




  The arrangements for the funeral have not been made and will be announced later.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895




  Samuel F. Staggs died at McMinnville April 13, aged 78. He crossed the plains from Missouri, reaching Oregon in 1846.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895




  W.H. Byars, the new commandant of the soldier's home, has arrived at Roseburg, and is getting in readiness to assume his office on May 1.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895




  Portland ? Isaac Barnes, one of the old residents of Portland, died at the residence of his son, Frederick Barnes. He was 83 years of age, and first came to this county in from England in 1813, locating in Albany, N.Y. After two years he went back to England, but returned shortly afterward and engaged in the business of brushmaking in New York. In 1856 he removed with his family to Iowa, and in 1861 crossed the plains for Oregon, and ever since he lived in the vicinity of Portland

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896




  Baker City ? Fannie Jenkins, aged 14, daughter of Captain Wm. [William] Jenkins, a miner employed at the Virtue mine, while walking from their cottage to a neighbor's house with her little brother in her arms, stumbled, and in trying to save the child from being injured, fell backward and broke her neck. Death was instantaneous. The place where she fell is as level as a floor.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896




  Oregon ? Doc Burns, a 10-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. Henry Burns, came near drowning in the Olalla the other day. He had gone swimming and by some means got beyond his depth, when his mother noticed him and screamed for help. J.M. ___[unreadable], who was cutting hay nearby, ran to the rescue and, plunging in the water, caught the boy as he was going under the third time. A little care brought the boy around all right.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896




  La Grande? News has been received from Fox Hill that Joseph Leasey was accidentally killed by being thrown from a wagon loaded with wood. Leasey and a number of others from Island City went upon the hill for wood. It is supposed that the accident was caused by a brake of the wagon giving way, but no particulars have been received. 

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896




  Portland ? C.F. Kent, a well known citizen of Oregon, died suddenly at the home of his step-daughter, Mrs. Jesse Crame. Mr. Kent was 75 years of age. He came to Oregon in 1863, and for some time was engaged in the mines of southern Oregon. He was a quartermaster during the war of the rebellion. He leaves a widow to mourn his loss.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896




  The Dalles- Mrs. S.A. Davenport was this morning adjudged insane, and will be taken to the asylum in the morning. She is flighty on the subject of Christian science and it is hoped a few weeks, or at most a month's treatment, may restore her mental balance, says the Chronicle.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896




  Roseburg ? Mrs. Sheridan, the wife of Thomas Sheridan, Sr., died at her residence the other afternoon. Mrs. Sheridan had been an invalid for a number of years. She was an old pioneer of this county, and left a husband and four sons.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896




  Kendrick, Idaho ? J.S. Falls, better known to the people of this country as ?Old California?, shuffled off this mortal coil last Friday morning. A little more than six months ago he was sentenced to the Nez Perce county jail for selling liqour to the Indians, and about two weeks after the completion of his sentence he died of heart failure. His remains were interred at Lewiston last Saturday at the county's expense. And now every time the eye gazes upon the little log cabin in Brady Gulch, the memory will recall many peculiar incidents in his checkered career, says the Times.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896




  DEATH OF A WALLA WALLA PIONEER

  Had Lived in the County for About Forty Years.

  ?Walla Walla. Wash.. Nov. 30.-A. S. Van Horrn, an old pioneer, died in the hospital in this city last night of congestion of the liver. He was born in Pennsylvania in 1833, crossed the plains in 1849 and settled in Salt Lake. He came to Walla Walla in 1859 and was one of the best known pioneers in eastern Washington.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896




  Joe Twyman, another old-timer, 73 years of age., was found dead in a house five miles west of the city this morning. He lived alone on what is known as the old Coe farm. As he had not been seen for several days, his neighbors went to his home this morning and found him lying dead on the floor. He lay near a stove, an arm load of wood beside him, and his white locks covered with the snow which had drifted on him. He had gloves on his hands, and sacks wrapped around his feet, indicating that he entered the house just before he died. The supposed cause was heart disease. Twyman had lived in this county 40 years and at one time was well-to-do, but it is said he gave away most of his property to a woman with whom he was infatuated, who abandoned him shortly after she secured possession.

  Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896





  Robyn
  rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

  Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
  coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)







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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  1 19:44:20 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:44:20 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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Les -- I would be interested to know the time of this event -- like 
when, year-wise?

Bill Strickland

Leslie Chapman wrote:

>The Dalles- Mrs. S.A. Davenport was this morning adjudged insane, and will
>be taken to the asylum in the morning. She is flighty on the subject of
>Christian science ...
>  
>


From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb  1 19:58:47 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:58:47 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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That was part of Robyn's post I made the free time remark about;

Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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Bill Strickland
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


Les -- I would be interested to know the time of this event -- like 
when, year-wise?

Bill Strickland

Leslie Chapman wrote:

>The Dalles- Mrs. S.A. Davenport was this morning adjudged insane, and will
>be taken to the asylum in the morning. She is flighty on the subject of
>Christian science ...
>  
>
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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  1 20:05:56 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:05:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Bob & Diane wrote:

> Chewaucan was abandoned except now for a cemetery on private land with 
> a few boards still in the area as a reminder of days gone by. 


The name lives on, if not the place -- of course, there's the river, but 
then there's the occasional postcard of the Chewaucan Hotel, which was 
in downtown Paisley, and things like the former Chewaucan herd of French 
Alpine dairy goats ...

Bill Strickland



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  1 20:11:50 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:11:50 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Bob & Diane wrote:

> Tradition tells us that Charles Mitchell-Innes suggested the village 
> be named named Paisley, after his hometown of Paisley in Scotland.  


The story McArthur relates is that it reminded him of home in Scotland, 
which was dismissed as "no way!"  In honor of his hometown is much more 
palatable to the senses.

Bill Strickland


From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Mon Feb  1 20:33:51 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:33:51 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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1896, hmmm

Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than that 
(1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in Southern 
Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am not 
going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion, perhaps, 
but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.

Bill Strickland


From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 20:34:06 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:34:06 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Yeah but it might be a nice drive. We also want to see the sunstone 
collection area and Wagontire.  My friend from the museum is checking high 
areas 5 to 10 000 feet looking for snails and clams to document land 
changes, we have them here over thousands of years old just about every 
where proves it was once a very wet area.
We been to Bend and Redmond so much and there is nothing left to see.

This summer I am going to hike the road across the hills they call Duncan 
reservoir, it looks like wagon road, I am wanting to see where is goes in 
the ravine. You cant drive any thing there but a horse would be nice.
  Dan M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


>I see what you mean about the boonies.  You are a long ways from Burns.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:24 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
> Dan
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
>
>> O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either
> Umatilla
>> or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but
> I
>> am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
>> there?
>> Dale
>>
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 20:39:07 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:39:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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well I got a flat roof and its a nice place for my telescope and camera.
I missed the moon last night tho.
  I did get a moon once it was pink.
I love it here, but I always would like to see a dinosaur coming my way <G>
Lots of coyote music at sunset too.
  No one comes out here, if they don't have a posi drive they will get stuck 
with single wheel drive.  I wish there was some one who knows how to check 
records to see who made the homestead that I found here.
Dan M
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From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> DanM. wrote:
>
>> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
>
>
> so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of 
> the night sky out that way.
>
> you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in 
> Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a metropolis 
> compared to your 40 acres
>
> pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
> http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647
>
> .Bill Strickland
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 20:41:40 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:41:40 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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I was wondering if it was after the sheep herders, I think they were scotts 
or Irish.
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:28 PM
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>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
> Bill Strickland
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:08 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
> DanM. wrote:
>
>> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
>
>
> so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of
>
> the night sky out that way.
>
> you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in
> Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a
> metropolis compared to your 40 acres
>
> pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
> http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647
>
> .Bill Strickland
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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Mon Feb  1 20:49:23 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:49:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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The Irish actually did not arrive in this area until the early 1900's. 
There were a few here earlier.  Horsemen populated this area first.  The 
Summer Lake - Chewaucan valley is perfect horse country.

We have a copy of the Rigdon Journal and therein is the lists of many years 
of folks going to and from the Willamette Valley via the Oregon Military 
Road.

What is the land description of your land, Dan and go to ORGLO records.  You 
know, the BLM site...that will bring  you up who homesteaded your site.  In 
Lakeview, the Ameri-Title office is wonderful to help you look at the 
original records.  The gals in the county clerks office are also wonderful 
help.  There you can copy the original records for you own use.  For just a 
nominal fee of copying.

Diane



From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb  1 21:10:43 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:10:43 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] homestead info
In-Reply-To: <07F7C8E172CB4DAA89B548EE4352414E@AroundHome>
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Dan; I didn't quite follow your google location reference this morning, but
if I had a T R and section number I might be able to get a name for you
pretty easy, if in fact it was homesteaded. I know there are some DLC's east
of the mountains but not as many in most areas as you find in the more
prosperous parts of west side.

LEs


 I wish there was some one who knows how to check
records to see who made the homestead that I found here.
Dan M



From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  1 21:11:32 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:11:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Some interesting Oregon tidbits from the
	SpokaneRegister, 1895
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References: <67696.47024.qm@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<005001caa3b9$4d4400e0$0301a8c0@Jewel>
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Denise-

I am not *personally* putting the news articles online, but there are several other genealogytrails hosts who cover these areas, and these tidbits will all end up online sometime soon. In this case, since these specifically dealt with early Oregonians, I've also sent them to Layne and the Early Oregonian database, and to Stephanie Flora for her Oregon pioneers research. But I hoped that the OR-Roots group would enjoy them too. I know I enjoyed reading them!

 
If anyone has material they would like to have put online, you may either send it to me, or if you prefer, I can give you the contact names for the host of the area the items cover. You can choose to have your name associated with them or not. If you later decided you did not want them on Genealogytrails, we hosts would honor your wishes and remove them (if they were credited to you so that we could tell what to remove. All the GT hosts are always very thankful for submissions - some are easy to get online quickly, others require  bit of formatting and research to do them justice.

Robyn
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Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)


      
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:13:21 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:13:21 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome><002801caa364$f4a806b0$ddf81410$@net><3AD8939001084109AA6FDF43EF20E213@AroundHome>	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D308611340@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><ECF7DACE71B540EFA5F3A60A7457F245@AroundHome>	<4B675EDD.8000804@earthlink.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD45C@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><4B6773D0.2090103@earthlink.net>
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here are a few links to check for some interesting reading
http://www.ohs.org/education/oregonhistory/narratives/subtopic.cfm?subtopic_ID=384

http://www.irishsheepherders.com/irishobituries.html

naming Paisley
http://paisley.presys.com/history.html

http://www.ohwy.com/or/p/paisley.htm

centennial history
http://books.google.com/books?id=emQUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA494&lpg=PA494&dq=settlers+1873,+Paisly+Oregon&source=bl&ots=6xENWPf-fK&sig=JZo9EhSWdM3OpWXq7-hVmiD1X3o&hl=en&ei=-7JnS8zeNMOUtgeKvPnqBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=&f=false

these are a few of my book marks I had of several more.
Paisley is the famous place of all NA in America as told by researchers.
Dan M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:43 PM
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> It would be interesting to look at the census from 1850 to see if there
> were any Scottish people living there.  I have recently been doing
> research on Paisley Scotland and that is why I asked the question.  It
> turns out to be the largest city in Scotland.  Even bigger than Glasgow.
> The cloth Paisley was named after the city, not vise-versa.  It turns
> out that they were a weaving community many hundreds of years ago.
> Just a little trivia fyi.
> Dale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
> Bill Strickland
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:38 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
> Harguess, Dale wrote:
>
>>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>>
>
> That is one 1873 theory, but McArthur easily debunks it, so it makes one
>
> wonder ...  another theory is named by another Scotsman, Steele, reason
> unknown -- of course, those earlier Paisly settlers called it something
> else 10,000 years before it was ever seen by the white guy's eyes, and
> probably many, many other native names in between ...
>
> Bill Strickland
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:17:14 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:17:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKEGKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
	<751060.72425.qm@web112405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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thats time you work your butt off cleaning house and dont get paid ?
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robyn Greenlund 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon


  Free time - what's that?


  Robyn
  rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

  Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
  coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)






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  From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
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  Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 5:48:17 PM
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  And what are you doing with ALL of your free time Robyn?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robyn Greenlund
    Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:58 PM
    To: OR-Roots
    Cc: OR-Coos
    Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon


    Greetings all!


    I've been busy trying to get some of the wealth of information I've been collecting processed and put into a usable format for people to find while online. 




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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb  1 21:18:24 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:18:24 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
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Dan;

We had a speaker at the PLSO conference this year who has been studying the
old trails and wagon roads in the central Oregon area for some time. Sheesh,
finally found it.

He is Mike Berry and he works in the Deschutes Co Surveyors office, his main
focus is the Meek Cutoff which ironically his research proved to him runs
practically through his yard.

by the way, if you are following an official road keep a close watch on the
the trees, (well if you are in and area that has them) contract roads were
supposed to be marked every mile with a scribed mile post and I believe Mike
said they were supposed to blaze every tree along the road that was adjacent
to it.

Les C

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:34 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


Yeah but it might be a nice drive. We also want to see the sunstone
collection area and Wagontire.  My friend from the museum is checking high
areas 5 to 10 000 feet looking for snails and clams to document land
changes, we have them here over thousands of years old just about every
where proves it was once a very wet area.
We been to Bend and Redmond so much and there is nothing left to see.

This summer I am going to hike the road across the hills they call Duncan
reservoir, it looks like wagon road, I am wanting to see where is goes in
the ravine. You cant drive any thing there but a horse would be nice.
  Dan M

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


>I see what you mean about the boonies.  You are a long ways from Burns.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:24 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
> Dan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
>
>> O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either
> Umatilla
>> or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but
> I
>> am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
>> there?
>> Dale
>>
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:19:10 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:19:10 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <E0B37FDDD5974319ADFF4D809A64111D@FTQ2>
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b-b-b-b-b-but now its too late ;( <G>
I have lots of dreams of things to do, its the scavenging thats hard.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ViolaRae" <vkassing at mywdo.com>
To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> Dan,
> Try Klamath Falls!  It is a gold mine of old metal.  If while I was out
> there in 2003-2004-2005 you had said you wanted a caste iron Dutch oven I
> had several around the homestead.  There was a lot of camping equipment 
> and
> metal parts.  You'd have loved it!
>
> Viola Rae Kassing
 



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:25:51 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:25:51 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome><002801caa364$f4a806b0$ddf81410$@net><3AD8939001084109AA6FDF43EF20E213@AroundHome>	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D308611340@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><ECF7DACE71B540EFA5F3A60A7457F245@AroundHome>	<4B675EDD.8000804@earthlink.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD45C@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>	<4B6773D0.2090103@earthlink.net><7B351F46A27A4DA2BD1195FFAF76552B@DianePC>
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How big is Paisley?
How many shops?

This is quest week for my scavenging and I want to go some place.
Just don't know where to go.
Even some one who has junk or old garden machines I can have any condition, 
even might be willing to pay or barter for things I am a ret small engine 
mechanic.
   Ok I am still Missing Walter and if the Modoc Hanging was before he died, 
then I need another dream on what happened to him.
  I know there are records in Modoc Alturas so I was told.
Layne Sawyer, is there any thing you can find out in some index about Walter 
J Matney d 1873 or Julia A Matney who knows when, 1900 or later could have 
been Rowe or Cooper after the divorce.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> Bob & Diane wrote:
>
>> Chewaucan was abandoned except now for a cemetery on private land with a 
>> few boards still in the area as a reminder of days gone by.
>
>
> The name lives on, if not the place -- of course, there's the river, but 
> then there's the occasional postcard of the Chewaucan Hotel, which was in 
> downtown Paisley, and things like the former Chewaucan herd of French 
> Alpine dairy goats ...
>
> Bill Strickland
>
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:28:31 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:28:31 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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I would say studying religions of a peoples is far different than arguing 
about belief.
   History is a fact and no reason to worry about what people think because 
it already past history
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


> 1896, hmmm
>
> Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than that 
> (1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in Southern 
> Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am not 
> going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion, perhaps, 
> but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.
>
> Bill Strickland
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:30:14 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:30:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome><002801caa364$f4a806b0$ddf81410$@net><3AD8939001084109AA6FDF43EF20E213@AroundHome>	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D308611340@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><ECF7DACE71B540EFA5F3A60A7457F245@AroundHome><4B675EDD.8000804@earthlink.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD45C@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><0D71519FB08F42DEA5438EAC75560E98@AroundHome>
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I will run this into my To DO chart ;)
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob & Diane" <whitehillranch at centurytel.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> The Irish actually did not arrive in this area until the early 1900's. 
> There were a few here earlier.  Horsemen populated this area first.  The 
> Summer Lake - Chewaucan valley is perfect horse country.
>
> We have a copy of the Rigdon Journal and therein is the lists of many 
> years of folks going to and from the Willamette Valley via the Oregon 
> Military Road.
>
> What is the land description of your land, Dan and go to ORGLO records. 
> You know, the BLM site...that will bring  you up who homesteaded your 
> site.  In Lakeview, the Ameri-Title office is wonderful to help you look 
> at the original records.  The gals in the county clerks office are also 
> wonderful help.  There you can copy the original records for you own use. 
> For just a nominal fee of copying.
>
> Diane
>
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:32:04 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:32:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] homestead info
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEMEGOCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <9142B54C664A46E7B3A45D33A685C95D@AroundHome>

I will look at our contract tomorrow. Its out in the truck.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:10 PM
Subject: [or-roots] homestead info


> Dan; I didn't quite follow your google location reference this morning, 
> but
> if I had a T R and section number I might be able to get a name for you
> pretty easy, if in fact it was homesteaded. I know there are some DLC's 
> east
> of the mountains but not as many in most areas as you find in the more
> prosperous parts of west side.
>
> LEs
>
>
> I wish there was some one who knows how to check
> records to see who made the homestead that I found here.
> Dan M
>
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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Mon Feb  1 21:36:24 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:36:24 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
In-Reply-To: <64A87E7437624DCD8F1D4A63865ADD00@AroundHome>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome><002801caa364$f4a806b0$ddf81410$@net><3AD8939001084109AA6FDF43EF20E213@AroundHome>	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D308611340@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><ECF7DACE71B540EFA5F3A60A7457F245@AroundHome>	<4B675EDD.8000804@earthlink.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD45C@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>	<4B6773D0.2090103@earthlink.net><7B351F46A27A4DA2BD1195FFAF76552B@DianePC><4B67A4A4.1080003@earthlink.net>
	<64A87E7437624DCD8F1D4A63865ADD00@AroundHome>
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Population of Paisley is about 270
one service station
2 self serve gasoline places
one grocery store
one school grades k-12
one fishing shop
one library
one beauty shop
one bar
one coffee thingy called Paisley perk
one cafe


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> How big is Paisley?
> How many shops?
>
> This is quest week for my scavenging and I want to go some place.
> Just don't know where to go.
> Even some one who has junk or old garden machines I can have any 
> condition, even might be willing to pay or barter for things I am a ret 
> small engine mechanic.
>   Ok I am still Missing Walter and if the Modoc Hanging was before he 
> died, then I need another dream on what happened to him.
>  I know there are records in Modoc Alturas so I was told.
> Layne Sawyer, is there any thing you can find out in some index about 
> Walter J Matney d 1873 or Julia A Matney who knows when, 1900 or later 
> could have been Rowe or Cooper after the divorce.
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
>
>> Bob & Diane wrote:
>>
>>> Chewaucan was abandoned except now for a cemetery on private land with a 
>>> few boards still in the area as a reminder of days gone by.
>>
>>
>> The name lives on, if not the place -- of course, there's the river, but 
>> then there's the occasional postcard of the Chewaucan Hotel, which was in 
>> downtown Paisley, and things like the former Chewaucan herd of French 
>> Alpine dairy goats ...
>>
>> Bill Strickland
>>
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:38:28 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:38:28 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEGPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <410942B70A204C9693875101B71ABACE@AroundHome>

this looks like a well worked road of old times, no trees but juniper, who 
knows if they would live that long.
   It goes from hwy 30 across the desert and winds to a ravine, with flat 
lands to one side I was wanting to see why it led to the ravine.
   There is a rock shelter that was used by Indians I got several pictures 
out side and inside, it could hold 20 30 people.
   But that roads bugging me, its been there a long time you can tell. And 
the ruts are wider than cars or trucks of today.
Dan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:18 PM
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads


> Dan;
>
> We had a speaker at the PLSO conference this year who has been studying 
> the
> old trails and wagon roads in the central Oregon area for some time. 
> Sheesh,
> finally found it.
>
> He is Mike Berry and he works in the Deschutes Co Surveyors office, his 
> main
> focus is the Meek Cutoff which ironically his research proved to him runs
> practically through his yard.
>
> by the way, if you are following an official road keep a close watch on 
> the
> the trees, (well if you are in and area that has them) contract roads were
> supposed to be marked every mile with a scribed mile post and I believe 
> Mike
> said they were supposed to blaze every tree along the road that was 
> adjacent
> to it.
>
> Les C 



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb  1 21:39:27 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:39:27 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEGPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <E62C5D68501045CFADA3C563BE7B0E5D@AroundHome>

oh yea and I found some arrow head chips in the ruts, they are still there I 
don't take artifacts.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:18 PM
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads


> Dan;
>
> We had a speaker at the PLSO conference this year who has been studying 
> the
> old trails and wagon roads in the central Oregon area for some time. 
> Sheesh,
> finally found it.
>
> He is Mike Berry and he works in the Deschutes Co Surveyors office, his 
> main
> focus is the Meek Cutoff which ironically his research proved to him runs
> practically through his yard.
>
> by the way, if you are following an official road keep a close watch on 
> the
> the trees, (well if you are in and area that has them) contract roads were
> supposed to be marked every mile with a scribed mile post and I believe 
> Mike
> said they were supposed to blaze every tree along the road that was 
> adjacent
> to it.
>
> Les C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:34 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
>
> Yeah but it might be a nice drive. We also want to see the sunstone
> collection area and Wagontire.  My friend from the museum is checking high
> areas 5 to 10 000 feet looking for snails and clams to document land
> changes, we have them here over thousands of years old just about every
> where proves it was once a very wet area.
> We been to Bend and Redmond so much and there is nothing left to see.
>
> This summer I am going to hike the road across the hills they call Duncan
> reservoir, it looks like wagon road, I am wanting to see where is goes in
> the ravine. You cant drive any thing there but a horse would be nice.
>  Dan M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
>
>>I see what you mean about the boonies.  You are a long ways from Burns.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:24 PM
>> To: or-roots mail list
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>>
>> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
>> Dan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>>
>>
>>> O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either
>> Umatilla
>>> or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but
>> I
>>> am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
>>> there?
>>> Dale
>>>
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From ghullfam at sbcglobal.net  Mon Feb  1 22:10:21 2010
From: ghullfam at sbcglobal.net (ghullfam)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:10:21 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome><002801caa364$f4a806b0$ddf81410$@net><3AD8939001084109AA6FDF43EF20E213@AroundHome>	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D308611340@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><ECF7DACE71B540EFA5F3A60A7457F245@AroundHome><4B675EDD.8000804@earthlink.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD45C@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
	<0D71519FB08F42DEA5438EAC75560E98@AroundHome>
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Hi,    There are a lot of Irish in Lakeview and that area,   lots of early 
on sheepherders.   I spent time there on my Grandparents ranch,  still go 
back for the Round Up.    Dan you are Out back and far away.  Charlotte.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


>I was wondering if it was after the sheep herders, I think they were scotts 
>or Irish.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
>
>>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
>> Bill Strickland
>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:08 PM
>> To: or-roots mail list
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>>
>> DanM. wrote:
>>
>>> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
>>
>>
>> so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of
>>
>> the night sky out that way.
>>
>> you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in
>> Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a
>> metropolis compared to your 40 acres
>>
>> pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
>> http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647
>>
>> .Bill Strickland
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 22:20:52 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:20:52 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome><002801caa364$f4a806b0$ddf81410$@net><3AD8939001084109AA6FDF43EF20E213@AroundHome>	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D308611340@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><ECF7DACE71B540EFA5F3A60A7457F245@AroundHome>	<4B675EDD.8000804@earthlink.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD45C@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>	<4B6773D0.2090103@earthlink.net><7B351F46A27A4DA2BD1195FFAF76552B@DianePC><4B67A4A4.1080003@earthlink.net><64A87E7437624DCD8F1D4A63865ADD00@AroundHome>
	<B998C06D50E04F2F88C184879ECB7C50@DianePC>
Message-ID: <EE2F21F161084DC289D27A20E8AA4CAB@AroundHome>

metropolis ;>

Is there any chance this is the Bob and Diane that helped us a year ago 
Christmas ?
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob & Diane" <whitehillranch at centurytel.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> Population of Paisley is about 270
> one service station
> 2 self serve gasoline places
> one grocery store
> one school grades k-12
> one fishing shop
> one library
> one beauty shop
> one bar
> one coffee thingy called Paisley perk
> one cafe
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>
>
>> How big is Paisley?
>> How many shops?
>>
>> This is quest week for my scavenging and I want to go some place.
>> Just don't know where to go.
>> Even some one who has junk or old garden machines I can have any 
>> condition, even might be willing to pay or barter for things I am a ret 
>> small engine mechanic.
>>   Ok I am still Missing Walter and if the Modoc Hanging was before he 
>> died, then I need another dream on what happened to him.
>>  I know there are records in Modoc Alturas so I was told.
>> Layne Sawyer, is there any thing you can find out in some index about 
>> Walter J Matney d 1873 or Julia A Matney who knows when, 1900 or later 
>> could have been Rowe or Cooper after the divorce.
>> Dan M
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
>>
>>
>>> Bob & Diane wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chewaucan was abandoned except now for a cemetery on private land with 
>>>> a few boards still in the area as a reminder of days gone by.
>>>
>>>
>>> The name lives on, if not the place -- of course, there's the river, but 
>>> then there's the occasional postcard of the Chewaucan Hotel, which was 
>>> in downtown Paisley, and things like the former Chewaucan herd of French 
>>> Alpine dairy goats ...
>>>
>>> Bill Strickland
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> or-roots mailing list
>>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>>
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 22:39:16 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:39:16 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEGPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
	<410942B70A204C9693875101B71ABACE@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <E771552037BE481A9BB4C96F7F511C92@AroundHome>

here is one that I just found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Bridge_and_the_Oregon_Central_Military_Wagon_Road#Route

it looks like its not to far from Paisley
Dan M 



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 22:43:07 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:43:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEGPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
	<410942B70A204C9693875101B71ABACE@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <D4501D85399E4A94A7ACC0A5A5A8187E@AroundHome>

any one seen this page before ?
http://www.over-land.com/wagonroad.html

Dan M


From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 23:04:55 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 23:04:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEGPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
	<410942B70A204C9693875101B71ABACE@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <ED3D67FE55364AEE98BF6E32FA4E884E@AroundHome>

read this site.
http://www.emigranttrailswest.org/caltrail.htm
still no mentions of a trail in the Duncan area.
Dan M


From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  2 01:09:06 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:09:06 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
In-Reply-To: <B998C06D50E04F2F88C184879ECB7C50@DianePC>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEFPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><55579012032A44FCBD0532D61A1BC665@AroundHome><002801caa364$f4a806b0$ddf81410$@net><3AD8939001084109AA6FDF43EF20E213@AroundHome>	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D308611340@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><ECF7DACE71B540EFA5F3A60A7457F245@AroundHome>	<4B675EDD.8000804@earthlink.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD45C@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>	<4B6773D0.2090103@earthlink.net><7B351F46A27A4DA2BD1195FFAF76552B@DianePC><4B67A4A4.1080003@earthlink.net>	<64A87E7437624DCD8F1D4A63865ADD00@AroundHome>
	<B998C06D50E04F2F88C184879ECB7C50@DianePC>
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Bob & Diane wrote:

> Population of Paisley is about 270
> one service station
> 2 self serve gasoline places
> one grocery store
> one school grades k-12
> one fishing shop
> one library
> one beauty shop
> one bar
> one coffee thingy called Paisley perk
> one cafe 

one airport (not downtown)
and a partridge in a pear tree.   ;-)

Do they still saw any logs up at the mill?  Firewood?

Bill Strickland


From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  2 01:24:56 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:24:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Test
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viuhkola wrote:

> Sure is quiet, is anybody out there?


Now you see what happens when you jab a stick into a sleeping hornet's nest

Bill Strickland
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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  2 01:31:05 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:31:05 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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And they used to have a Chevrolet dealership until relatively recently 
-- and the old man kept a good stock of Ford parts, too.

Chris & Bill Strickland wrote:

> Bob & Diane wrote:
>
>> Population of Paisley is about 270
>> one service station
>> 2 self serve gasoline places
>> one grocery store
>> one school grades k-12
>> one fishing shop
>> one library
>> one beauty shop
>> one bar
>> one coffee thingy called Paisley perk
>> one cafe 
>
>
> one airport (not downtown)
> and a partridge in a pear tree.   ;-)
>
> Do they still saw any logs up at the mill?  Firewood?
>
> Bill Strickland
> _______________________________________________
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> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>
>



From birdman_326 at msn.com  Tue Feb  2 04:59:00 2010
From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:59:00 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4
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Dorothy M. Powell

Hi, I'm trying to track this lady. She was born 1915.  Think she died about 1933.  On 1930 census, she was with her mom, Ida Mckinley(Pugh) Pwell, brother, George W. Powell and uncle, Walter Pugh in Pendleton.  Ida died in 1938, with no mention of Dorothy.  George W. Powell died in 1995, Walter died in 1955?  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I believe George W. Powell graduated St. Joseph's Acadamy in Pendleton, OR.  I can't find anything on that either.  I'd appreciate any help.  thank you,  Laura
 
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From: mygen2 at d-matney.com
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:23:42 -0800
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google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
Dan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
 
 
> O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either Umatilla
> or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but I
> am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
> there?
> Dale
>  
 


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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:49:25 -0800
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I see what you mean about the boonies.  You are a long ways from Burns.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 2:24 PM
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google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north.
Dan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
 
 
> O.K. I know where Burns is so I am guessing you are near either
Umatilla
> or Morrow County.  You keep talking about being out in the boonies but
I
> am curious about where you are talking about.  Also, is it freezing
> there?
> Dale
>  
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DanM. wrote:
 
> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north. 
 
 
so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of 
the night sky out that way.
 
you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in 
Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a 
metropolis compared to your 40 acres
 
pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647
 
.Bill Strickland
 


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I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
 
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DanM. wrote:
 
> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north. 
 
 
so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of
 
the night sky out that way.
 
you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in 
Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a 
metropolis compared to your 40 acres
 
pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647
 
.Bill Strickland
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:57:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos County, Oregon






Greetings all!




I've been busy trying to get some of the wealth of information I've been collecting processed and put into a usable format for people to find while online. My motivation has been the steady growth in popularity of the Genealogytrails websites. I started tracking statistics on it about a year and  half ago, and at the time, the average visits to the site per day were 2-3 visits, of about a minute average length. When I send out an update like this one, it causes a big spike in the statistics, but
then it settles down to "normal" again. But normal is now about 14 people day, with an average time on the site of 15 minutes!

Here's the list of what's been put online for December and January - my thanks too the people who have provided me with material to use for
these updates (you know who you are!) and I still have a lot more to turn into web pages, so watch for more updates soon. I hope you find something for each of your families from Coos county!

1) New 1855 Jury List provided by Andie Jensen. Was your pioneer family here before the 1860 census? 


2) New 1949 Myrtle Point Phone book page, Surnames A-G 


3) Newspaper clipping on the wreck of the Beda in 1886


4) Updated the Coos county Mason/Masonic Lodge members. Added 23 additional Masons to Masonic Lodge members in Coos County, making a list of over 240 known Masons


5) New Coroner's Inquests
page, with 315 deaths in Coos county investigated by the Coos County
Coroner (Notes are being researched and shared courtesy of Andie
Jensen).


6) Updated the Cemetery listing page to show all sources for cemetery listings, number of interments, and maps to cemeteries where known.



7) Added five more biographies to the Pioneer History of Coos and Curry County page from 1898 


8) Added 6 new members to the American Legion webpage 


9) Births, Deaths, Marriages and Illnesses [Over 100 new obituaries, 10 new birth announcements, 40 illness mentions, 60 marriages]



10) Added another page to the 1893 Tax Assessment Index, surnames beginning with 'HA'


11) Added two new schools to schools list, Twin Oaks and Riverton, with photographs and additional information (as available)



12) Added new IOOF page with 18 known members, both men and women



13) Created new community page for Bullards, Bandon area with 50 names mentioned



14) Marriage Record Summary created for 160 Coos county marriages - featuring the names, dates, minister, place of marriage and witnesses


 
Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)














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Harguess, Dale wrote:
 
>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>
 
That is one 1873 theory, but McArthur easily debunks it, so it makes one 
wonder ...  another theory is named by another Scotsman, Steele, reason 
unknown -- of course, those earlier Paisly settlers called it something 
else 10,000 years before it was ever seen by the white guy's eyes, and 
probably many, many other native names in between ...
 
Bill Strickland
 


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It would be interesting to look at the census from 1850 to see if there
were any Scottish people living there.  I have recently been doing
research on Paisley Scotland and that is why I asked the question.  It
turns out to be the largest city in Scotland.  Even bigger than Glasgow.
The cloth Paisley was named after the city, not vise-versa.  It turns
out that they were a weaving community many hundreds of years ago.
Just a little trivia fyi.
Dale
 
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Harguess, Dale wrote:
 
>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>
 
That is one 1873 theory, but McArthur easily debunks it, so it makes one
 
wonder ...  another theory is named by another Scotsman, Steele, reason 
unknown -- of course, those earlier Paisly settlers called it something 
else 10,000 years before it was ever seen by the white guy's eyes, and 
probably many, many other native names in between ...
 
Bill Strickland
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There are four Paisley's in the world, Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland; 
Paisley, Ontario, Canada; Paisley Lake, Florida and Paisley, Lake, Oregon
 
Tradition tells us that Charles Mitchell-Innes suggested the village be 
named named Paisley, after his hometown of Paisley in Scotland.  He was 
quite a horseman.  Mitchell-Innes is buried in the Paisley cemetery.
 
Diane
 
 
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>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
 
 


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The original settlement was not Paisley, but Chewaucan.  That area was 
located several miles south of Paisley.  What person wanted to live by a 
river, infested by mosquitoes and a rocky bank?  Prone to flooding.  But in 
time, the river was dredged to the  north side of what is now Paisley, banks 
built along the river banks (still will flood tho!!) and homes built. 
Chewaucan was abandoned except now for a cemetery on private land with a few 
boards still in the area as a reminder of days gone by.
Diane
 
 
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> Harguess, Dale wrote:
>
>>I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?
>>
>
> That is one 1873 theory, but McArthur easily debunks it, so it makes one 
> wonder ...  another theory is named by another Scotsman, Steele, reason 
> unknown -- of course, those earlier Paisly settlers called it something 
> else 10,000 years before it was ever seen by the white guy's eyes, and 
> probably many, many other native names in between ...
>
> Bill Strickland
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I have not been through Christmas Valley in a long time, was to Paisley this past summer and seen Diane, and took photos of the Summer Lake and Paisley Cemeteries, I Antelope Hunt just South of Burns.


My Wife's step-brother lives in Crescent Oregon


Glen Jones Portland



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I wonder if it was named after Paisley, Scotland?

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DanM. wrote:

> google 97641 we are 20 miles east by a light north. 


so you're out between Christmas Valley and Wagontire, eh?  nice views of

the night sky out that way.

you aren't the only one out that way -- one of the list members is in 
Paisley, and I got relatives out there  of course, Paisley is a 
metropolis compared to your 40 acres

pic of downtown Paisley for those of you unfamiliar -- 
http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCview.asp?Num=1&cam1=647

.Bill Strickland
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 17:34:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Some interesting Oregon tidbits from the Spokane Register, 1895









Rev. Edgar P. Hill of Freeport, Ill. Has been given the unanimous call to the First Presbyterian church of Portland
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895


Mrs. Joseph Dixon died at her home on Oak creek, near Corvallis, last Sunday. She was born in Missouri on 1830, and came to Oregon in 1853.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895


Mrs. Savanahh Hall, 53 years old, and a pioneer of 1853, died at Myrtle Creek last week. Her husband, John Hall, has served three terms as commissioner of Douglas county.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895


William Levens, who was working a claim on Tennessee gulch, has, it is thought, one of the best paying mines in southern Oregon. He was in Canyonville recently with $700 to $800 in gold dust taken out of two or three sluice boxes.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895


There was a tripple wedding at Brownsville Sunday morning, the brides being the three daughters of Mrs. Booker. Miss Josie was married to Joseph Harrison, Miss Etta to Allen Chastain, and Miss Ella to William H. Templeton.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 21, 1895


The name Eureka postoffice at Cracker Creek, the scene of operation of the E. & E. mines, has been changed to Bourne, in honor of Mr. Jonathan Bourne, Jr., one of the stockholders of the Eureka and Excelsior Consolidated Mining Company and known as the free silver champion of Portland. Mr. J. Henry Longmaid had the honor of christening the new post office and the postmaster is Mr. R.R. Weatherred.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895


She Was A Pioneer
Mrs. James Monaghan Dies After an Illnes of Several Weeks Leaving Six Children. Robert, the Eldest, Arrived From Annapolis In Time to Be at Her Bedside


Mrs. Margaret Monaghan, wife of James Monaghan, died at her home near Gonzaga college at 8 o'clock last night, aged 43 years and 9 months. She had been ill for several weeks with rheumatism and la grippe and her death was not unexpected. A week ago physicians decided that she could not recover.


She leaves besides her husband six children, three girls and three boys, Robert, who is a cadet in the United States naval academy at Annapolis, being the eldest. Robert arrived home two days ago in answer to a telegram summoning him to his mother's bedside.


Mrs. Monaghan was one of the pioneer women of the northwest. She came to Walla Walla with her parents from Ireland in 1859, when she was 7 years old, and was married to Mr. Monaghan at Walla Walla in 1871. They moved to Fort Coville and subsequently lived at Fort Spokane and Coeur d'Alene City, finally settling down in Spokane. Mrs. Monaghan's maiden name was McCool, and her aged parents are still living at Walla Walla, Hugh McCool, collector of customs at Northport, is her brother, as are also Joseph and James McCool. She was a lady of lovable qualities and was possessed of a hindly disposition which made her many friends.


Mr. Monaghan, who is one of the earliest pioneer settlers of the northwest, and his family, will receive the sympathy of friends throughout Washington, Oregon, Idaho and British Columbia in their great loss.


?She was essentially a pioneer woman, with all the attributes of the founders of this great commonwealth.? said Hon. M.M. Cowley last night. ?She was full of charity, generous-hearted to a degree seldom known, sweet-tempered, modest, gifted with a graciousness not often surpassed. She was conspicuous for her goodness, perfect in her reliance upon the goodness of God and the virtue of her neighbors, the sweetest of mothers, the best of wives, the most dutiful of daughters. She went to meet her Creator believing and trusting in the life to come with a convincing strength that never failed.?


The arrangements for the funeral have not been made and will be announced later.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895


Samuel F. Staggs died at McMinnville April 13, aged 78. He crossed the plains from Missouri, reaching Oregon in 1846.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895


W.H. Byars, the new commandant of the soldier's home, has arrived at Roseburg, and is getting in readiness to assume his office on May 1.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, April 23, 1895


Portland ? Isaac Barnes, one of the old residents of Portland, died at the residence of his son, Frederick Barnes. He was 83 years of age, and first came to this county in from England in 1813, locating in Albany, N.Y. After two years he went back to England, but returned shortly afterward and engaged in the business of brushmaking in New York. In 1856 he removed with his family to Iowa, and in 1861 crossed the plains for Oregon, and ever since he lived in the vicinity of Portland
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896


Baker City ? Fannie Jenkins, aged 14, daughter of Captain Wm. [William] Jenkins, a miner employed at the Virtue mine, while walking from their cottage to a neighbor's house with her little brother in her arms, stumbled, and in trying to save the child from being injured, fell backward and broke her neck. Death was instantaneous. The place where she fell is as level as a floor.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896


Oregon ? Doc Burns, a 10-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. Henry Burns, came near drowning in the Olalla the other day. He had gone swimming and by some means got beyond his depth, when his mother noticed him and screamed for help. J.M. ___[unreadable], who was cutting hay nearby, ran to the rescue and, plunging in the water, caught the boy as he was going under the third time. A little care brought the boy around all right.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Jul 9, 1896


La Grande? News has been received from Fox Hill that Joseph Leasey was accidentally killed by being thrown from a wagon loaded with wood. Leasey and a number of others from Island City went upon the hill for wood. It is supposed that the accident was caused by a brake of the wagon giving way, but no particulars have been received. 
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896


Portland ? C.F. Kent, a well known citizen of Oregon, died suddenly at the home of his step-daughter, Mrs. Jesse Crame. Mr. Kent was 75 years of age. He came to Oregon in 1863, and for some time was engaged in the mines of southern Oregon. He was a quartermaster during the war of the rebellion. He leaves a widow to mourn his loss.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896


The Dalles- Mrs. S.A. Davenport was this morning adjudged insane, and will be taken to the asylum in the morning. She is flighty on the subject of Christian science and it is hoped a few weeks, or at most a month's treatment, may restore her mental balance, says the Chronicle.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896


Roseburg ? Mrs. Sheridan, the wife of Thomas Sheridan, Sr., died at her residence the other afternoon. Mrs. Sheridan had been an invalid for a number of years. She was an old pioneer of this county, and left a husband and four sons.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896


Kendrick, Idaho ? J.S. Falls, better known to the people of this country as ?Old California?, shuffled off this mortal coil last Friday morning. A little more than six months ago he was sentenced to the Nez Perce county jail for selling liqour to the Indians, and about two weeks after the completion of his sentence he died of heart failure. His remains were interred at Lewiston last Saturday at the county's expense. And now every time the eye gazes upon the little log cabin in Brady Gulch, the memory will recall many peculiar incidents in his checkered career, says the Times.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896


DEATH OF A WALLA WALLA PIONEER

Had Lived in the County for About Forty Years.
?Walla Walla. Wash.. Nov. 30.-A. S. Van Horrn, an old pioneer, died in the hospital in this city last night of congestion of the liver. He was born in Pennsylvania in 1833, crossed the plains in 1849 and settled in Salt Lake. He came to Walla Walla in 1859 and was one of the best known pioneers in eastern Washington.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896


Joe Twyman, another old-timer, 73 years of age., was found dead in a house five miles west of the city this morning. He lived alone on what is known as the old Coe farm. As he had not been seen for several days, his neighbors went to his home this morning and found him lying dead on the floor. He lay near a stove, an arm load of wood beside him, and his white locks covered with the snow which had drifted on him. He had gloves on his hands, and sacks wrapped around his feet, indicating that he entered the house just before he died. The supposed cause was heart disease. Twyman had lived in this county 40 years and at one time was well-to-do, but it is said he gave away most of his property to a woman with whom he was infatuated, who abandoned him shortly after she secured possession.
Spokesman-Review, Spokane, Washington, Dec 3, 1896


 
Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)





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And 
what are you doing with ALL of your free time Robyn?



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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robyn 
Greenlund
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:58 PM
To: 
OR-Roots
Cc: OR-Coos
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos 
County, Oregon



Greetings all!







I've 
been busy trying to get some of the wealth of information I've been collecting 
processed and put into a usable format for people to find while online. 



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From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:00:03 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science

The Dalles- Mrs. S.A. Davenport was this morning adjudged insane, and will
be taken to the asylum in the morning. She is flighty on the subject of
Christian science and it is hoped a few weeks, or at most a month's
treatment, may restore her mental balance, says the Chronicle.
 
Okay; did Christian Science make her flighty or was she judge insane because
she was a Christian Scientist or because she was flighty on Christian
Science?
 
Actually insanity was pretty broad, a several members of my family spent
varying periods of times at the Oregon home for the mentally bewildered
because of thyroid imbalance. Not always voluntarily.
 
Les C
 
 
 


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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:23:22 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County

i KNOW SOME OF THE HARRIS WERE OVER INDEPENDEDENCE OH BY THE WAY THE
HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS INFORMATION ON THEM.  then you can find them at 
dufur.  I have a
listing for some there as well.  My family was at 7 mile.  Hey les did you 
try china cemetery for Matney
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
 
 
> Where were the Harris' from originally?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:55 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
>
> Well shucks no Matney LOL.
> My wife has Harris how about the William Harris ?
> Dan M
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> To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:32 PM
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>
>
>>I should have done this earlier, but here is the index, for what it is
>> worth.  I say that because it is far from complete -- especially where
>
>> wives
>> and children were concerned. But here goes:
> > Harris, William
>
>
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Free time - what's that?

 
Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)







From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
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And 
what are you doing with ALL of your free time Robyn?



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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robyn 
Greenlund
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:58 PM
To: 
OR-Roots
Cc: OR-Coos
Subject: [or-roots] Updates to Coos 
County, Oregon



Greetings all!







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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Tue Feb  2 06:40:22 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:40:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
In-Reply-To: <D4501D85399E4A94A7ACC0A5A5A8187E@AroundHome>
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That is a real interesting page, unfortunately the two Santiam links seem to
be no longer valid?

I did find another page that might have been one of them;

http://www.corvalliscommunitypages.com/Americas/US/USNotOregon/wagonroadsall
.htm

It also is cross linked to some interesting history.

I have to wonder is somewhere online someone has done this kind of work on
the Scott trail through Lane and Douglas Co.

Les C

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan M
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:43 PM


any one seen this page before ?
http://www.over-land.com/wagonroad.html

Dan M



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  2 06:51:14 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:51:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Chris & Bill Strickland wrote:

>> Do they still saw any logs up at the mill?  Firewood? 
>

That's one more "slab burner" that is gone, too. (A topic from about two 
years ago)

Bill Strickland


From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 07:22:04 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (glenkc7mbm at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:22:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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They also have a couple of little motels. 

Glen Jones Portland 



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And they used to have a Chevrolet dealership until relatively recently 
-- and the old man kept a good stock of Ford parts, too. 

Chris & Bill Strickland wrote: 

> Bob & Diane wrote: 
> 
>> Population of Paisley is about 270 
>> one service station 
>> 2 self serve gasoline places 
>> one grocery store 
>> one school grades k-12 
>> one fishing shop 
>> one library 
>> one beauty shop 
>> one bar 
>> one coffee thingy called Paisley perk 
>> one cafe 
> 
> 
> one airport (not downtown) 
> and a partridge in a pear tree. ? ;-) 
> 
> Do they still saw any logs up at the mill? ?Firewood? 
> 
> Bill Strickland 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 07:46:42 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:46:42 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Hmm that another thing I need an old clunker pick up <G>
Dan M
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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:31 AM
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> And they used to have a Chevrolet dealership until relatively recently 
> -- and the old man kept a good stock of Ford parts, too.
> 
> Chris & Bill Strickland wrote:
> 
>> Bob & Diane wrote:
>>
>>> Population of Paisley is about 270
>>> one service station
>>> 2 self serve gasoline places
>>> one grocery store
>>> one school grades k-12
>>> one fishing shop
>>> one library
>>> one beauty shop
>>> one bar
>>> one coffee thingy called Paisley perk
>>> one cafe 
>>
>>
>> one airport (not downtown)
>> and a partridge in a pear tree.   ;-)
>>
>> Do they still saw any logs up at the mill?  Firewood?
>>
>> Bill Strickland
>> _______________________________________________
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>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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>>
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 07:48:52 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:48:52 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
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I went to each site before sending the link.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] wagon roads


> That is a real interesting page, unfortunately the two Santiam links seem 
> to
> be no longer valid?
>
> I did find another page that might have been one of them;
>
> http://www.corvalliscommunitypages.com/Americas/US/USNotOregon/wagonroadsall
> .htm
>
> It also is cross linked to some interesting history.
>
> I have to wonder is somewhere online someone has done this kind of work on
> the Scott trail through Lane and Douglas Co.
>
> Les C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan M
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:43 PM
>
>
> any one seen this page before ?
> http://www.over-land.com/wagonroad.html
>
> Dan M
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 07:51:24 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:51:24 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Its about 60+ miles from here to Paisley.
We will go one day.
Mark Swisher who hangs out there is in Death Valley Ca right now getting some sun.
I was thinking about gassing up the little motor home and heading that way too <G>
Wonder how the weather is in Alturas in the winter ?
Dan M
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  They also have a couple of little motels.

  Glen Jones Portland
   
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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Tue Feb  2 08:08:31 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:08:31 -0700
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>From Wikipedia:  Alturas has wet, cold winters and warm, dry summers. The average January temperatures are a high of 41.6?F and a low of 16.5?F. The average July temperatures are a high of 88.2?F and a low of 44.3?F. There are an average of 36.2 days with highs of 90?F (32?C) or higher and an average of 203.8 days with lows of 32?F (0?C) or lower. The record high was 108?F on July 8, 2007, and the record low was -34?F on December 9, 1972. Freezing temperatures have occurred in every month of the year; cool nights are common even on the warmest summer days.

Darlene
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DanM. 
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  Its about 60+ miles from here to Paisley.
  We will go one day.
  Mark Swisher who hangs out there is in Death Valley Ca right now getting some sun.
  I was thinking about gassing up the little motor home and heading that way too <G>
  Wonder how the weather is in Alturas in the winter ?
  Dan M
    ----- Original Message ----- 
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    They also have a couple of little motels.

    Glen Jones Portland
     



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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Tue Feb  2 08:43:57 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:43:57 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
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I will have to try again then, I use google chrome instead of exploder or
any of the others and it sometimes is notional.

I've got an old beater pickup I thought about selling, but then the wife
tells me I can't. Someone offered to buy it from her about five years ago
and she told them I wouldn't sell it, but now the truth comes out.

It is a big piece of my history though, but maybe she'd let me loan it to
you, it'd be better off on your land than rusting away in the Willamette
Valley.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] wagon roads


I went to each site before sending the link.
Dan M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] wagon roads


> That is a real interesting page, unfortunately the two Santiam links seem
> to
> be no longer valid?
>
> I did find another page that might have been one of them;
>
>
http://www.corvalliscommunitypages.com/Americas/US/USNotOregon/wagonroadsall
> .htm
>
> It also is cross linked to some interesting history.
>
> I have to wonder is somewhere online someone has done this kind of work on
> the Scott trail through Lane and Douglas Co.
>
> Les C



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 08:56:18 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 08:56:18 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Gee how far south does one have to go to stay warmer <G>
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darlene Casteel 
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  From Wikipedia:  Alturas has wet, cold winters and warm, dry summers. The average January temperatures are a high of 41.6?F and a low of 16.5?F. The average July temperatures are a high of 88.2?F and a low of 44.3?F. There are an average of 36.2 days with highs of 90?F (32?C) or higher and an average of 203.8 days with lows of 32?F (0?C) or lower. The record high was 108?F on July 8, 2007, and the record low was -34?F on December 9, 1972. Freezing temperatures have occurred in every month of the year; cool nights are common even on the warmest summer days.

  Darlene
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: DanM. 
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    Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


    Its about 60+ miles from here to Paisley.
    We will go one day.
    Mark Swisher who hangs out there is in Death Valley Ca right now getting some sun.
    I was thinking about gassing up the little motor home and heading that way too <G>
    Wonder how the weather is in Alturas in the winter ?
    Dan M
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:22 AM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


      They also have a couple of little motels.

      Glen Jones Portland
       



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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 09:06:06 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:06:06 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
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I use Mozilla fire fox.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] wagon roads


>I will have to try again then, I use google chrome instead of exploder or
> any of the others and it sometimes is notional.
>
> I've got an old beater pickup I thought about selling, but then the wife
> tells me I can't. Someone offered to buy it from her about five years ago
> and she told them I wouldn't sell it, but now the truth comes out.
>
> It is a big piece of my history though, but maybe she'd let me loan it to
> you, it'd be better off on your land than rusting away in the Willamette
> Valley.
>
> Les
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:49 AM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] wagon roads
>
>
> I went to each site before sending the link.
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] wagon roads
>
>
>> That is a real interesting page, unfortunately the two Santiam links seem
>> to
>> be no longer valid?
>>
>> I did find another page that might have been one of them;
>>
>>
> http://www.corvalliscommunitypages.com/Americas/US/USNotOregon/wagonroadsall
>> .htm
>>
>> It also is cross linked to some interesting history.
>>
>> I have to wonder is somewhere online someone has done this kind of work 
>> on
>> the Scott trail through Lane and Douglas Co.
>>
>> Les C
>
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Tue Feb  2 09:44:30 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:44:30 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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I remember reading on the Oregon State Asylum website that there was
some religious group in the early 1900's that were frequently committed
to the insane asylum but I can't for the life of me remember which
religion it was.  Could have been Jehovah's witnesses or some other
later religion.  Sure wish I could remember.
Dale

1896, hmmm

Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than that 
(1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in Southern 
Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am not 
going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion, perhaps,

but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.

Bill Strickland
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Tue Feb  2 10:01:53 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:01:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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Why would you even mention Insane asylum and 'Could have been' Jevovah's 
witnesses. Now I am offended.

Nancy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


>I remember reading on the Oregon State Asylum website that there was
> some religious group in the early 1900's that were frequently committed
> to the insane asylum but I can't for the life of me remember which
> religion it was.  Could have been Jehovah's witnesses or some other
> later religion.  Sure wish I could remember.
> Dale
>
> 1896, hmmm
>
> Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than that
> (1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in Southern
> Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am not
> going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion, perhaps,
>
> but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.
>
> Bill Strickland
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Tue Feb  2 10:13:33 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:13:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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What?s your definition of warm?

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:56 AM
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Gee how far south does one have to go to stay warmer <G>

Dan M

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Darlene Casteel <mailto:darlene at thecasteels.net>  

	To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

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	From Wikipedia:  Alturas has wet, cold winters and warm, dry summers. The average January temperatures are a high of 41.6?F and a low of 16.5?F. The average July temperatures are a high of 88.2?F and a low of 44.3?F. There are an average of 36.2 days with highs of 90?F (32?C) or higher and an average of 203.8 days with lows of 32?F (0?C) or lower. The record high was 108?F on July 8, 2007, and the record low was -34?F on December 9, 1972. Freezing temperatures have occurred in every month of the year; cool nights are common even on the warmest summer days.

	 

	Darlene

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		From: DanM. <mailto:mygen2 at d-matney.com>  

		To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

		Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:51 AM

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		Its about 60+ miles from here to Paisley.

		We will go one day.

		Mark Swisher who hangs out there is in Death Valley Ca right now getting some sun.

		I was thinking about gassing up the little motor home and heading that way too <G>

		Wonder how the weather is in Alturas in the winter ?

		Dan M

			----- Original Message ----- 

			From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 

			To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

			Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:22 AM

			Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

			 

			They also have a couple of little motels.

			Glen Jones Portland
			 

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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Tue Feb  2 10:17:08 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:17:08 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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I am so sorry.  I did not mean to offend anyone.  I can't remember which
religion it was but only that it was one that was fairly new at that
time.  I am not that familiar with all religions and when they were
started.  Please accept my apologies.
Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy
Lee Adams
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science

Why would you even mention Insane asylum and 'Could have been' Jevovah's

witnesses. Now I am offended.

Nancy

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From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


>I remember reading on the Oregon State Asylum website that there was
> some religious group in the early 1900's that were frequently
committed
> to the insane asylum but I can't for the life of me remember which
> religion it was.  Could have been Jehovah's witnesses or some other
> later religion.  Sure wish I could remember.
> Dale
>
> 1896, hmmm
>
> Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than
that
> (1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in Southern
> Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am
not
> going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion,
perhaps,
>
> but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.
>
> Bill Strickland
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Tue Feb  2 10:20:40 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:20:40 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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No problem, just hit me wrong. I was one once & still believe in them a lot. 
My mother was both Christain Science 1st then baptized a Morman just before 
she died in 1971.

Nancy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


>I am so sorry.  I did not mean to offend anyone.  I can't remember which
> religion it was but only that it was one that was fairly new at that
> time.  I am not that familiar with all religions and when they were
> started.  Please accept my apologies.
> Dale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy
> Lee Adams
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:02 AM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>
> Why would you even mention Insane asylum and 'Could have been' Jevovah's
>
> witnesses. Now I am offended.
>
> Nancy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>
>
>>I remember reading on the Oregon State Asylum website that there was
>> some religious group in the early 1900's that were frequently
> committed
>> to the insane asylum but I can't for the life of me remember which
>> religion it was.  Could have been Jehovah's witnesses or some other
>> later religion.  Sure wish I could remember.
>> Dale
>>
>> 1896, hmmm
>>
>> Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than
> that
>> (1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in Southern
>> Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am
> not
>> going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion,
> perhaps,
>>
>> but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.
>>
>> Bill Strickland
>> _______________________________________________
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Tue Feb  2 10:29:15 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:29:15 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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I also did not mean to imply that the people they locked up were crazy
because of their religion.  The problem was the way people were viewed
at that time in history.  If you were not like everyone else, they
thought you were crazy and would lock you up.  Sometimes family members
who had differences of opinions even on politics would have their family
member committed.  I was doing research on an ancestor who was committed
in the Oregon State Asylum and lived there for thirty three years before
she finally died.  I never did find out what was really wrong with her
but I think she suffered from severe depression because her son was put
in prison at age 18 for horse theft.  He served his time and when he got
out he became a Baptist minister.  (more trivia)
Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy
Lee Adams
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:21 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science

No problem, just hit me wrong. I was one once & still believe in them a
lot. 
My mother was both Christain Science 1st then baptized a Morman just
before 
she died in 1971.

Nancy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


>I am so sorry.  I did not mean to offend anyone.  I can't remember
which
> religion it was but only that it was one that was fairly new at that
> time.  I am not that familiar with all religions and when they were
> started.  Please accept my apologies.
> Dale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy
> Lee Adams
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:02 AM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>
> Why would you even mention Insane asylum and 'Could have been'
Jevovah's
>
> witnesses. Now I am offended.
>
> Nancy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>
>
>>I remember reading on the Oregon State Asylum website that there was
>> some religious group in the early 1900's that were frequently
> committed
>> to the insane asylum but I can't for the life of me remember which
>> religion it was.  Could have been Jehovah's witnesses or some other
>> later religion.  Sure wish I could remember.
>> Dale
>>
>> 1896, hmmm
>>
>> Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than
> that
>> (1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in
Southern
>> Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am
> not
>> going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion,
> perhaps,
>>
>> but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.
>>
>> Bill Strickland
>> _______________________________________________
>> or-roots mailing list
>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Tue Feb  2 10:29:34 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:29:34 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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the west coast of mid Mexico.
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  Gee how far south does one have to go to stay warmer <G>
  Dan M
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    From Wikipedia:  Alturas has wet, cold winters and warm, dry summers. The average January temperatures are a high of 41.6?F and a low of 16.5?F. The average July temperatures are a high of 88.2?F and a low of 44.3?F. There are an average of 36.2 days with highs of 90?F (32?C) or higher and an average of 203.8 days with lows of 32?F (0?C) or lower. The record high was 108?F on July 8, 2007, and the record low was -34?F on December 9, 1972. Freezing temperatures have occurred in every month of the year; cool nights are common even on the warmest summer days.

    Darlene
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      Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:51 AM
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      Its about 60+ miles from here to Paisley.
      We will go one day.
      Mark Swisher who hangs out there is in Death Valley Ca right now getting some sun.
      I was thinking about gassing up the little motor home and heading that way too <G>
      Wonder how the weather is in Alturas in the winter ?
      Dan M
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        From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
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        They also have a couple of little motels.

        Glen Jones Portland
         



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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Tue Feb  2 10:31:33 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:31:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Dan, there has not been any winter this year.   Just wait until we get a winter.  The temps where you are will be easily -30 and you might even have a 'tad' bit of wind.  This will not be aone or 2 day event either.  You better have a good supply of grub on hand.  Diane
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Gee how far south does one have to go to stay warmer <G>
  Dan M
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Darlene Casteel 
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    Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:08 AM
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    From Wikipedia:  Alturas has wet, cold winters and warm, dry summers. The average January temperatures are a high of 41.6?F and a low of 16.5?F. The average July temperatures are a high of 88.2?F and a low of 44.3?F. There are an average of 36.2 days with highs of 90?F (32?C) or higher and an average of 203.8 days with lows of 32?F (0?C) or lower. The record high was 108?F on July 8, 2007, and the record low was -34?F on December 9, 1972. Freezing temperatures have occurred in every month of the year; cool nights are common even on the warmest summer days.

    Darlene
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      Its about 60+ miles from here to Paisley.
      We will go one day.
      Mark Swisher who hangs out there is in Death Valley Ca right now getting some sun.
      I was thinking about gassing up the little motor home and heading that way too <G>
      Wonder how the weather is in Alturas in the winter ?
      Dan M
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        Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:22 AM
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        They also have a couple of little motels.

        Glen Jones Portland
         



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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Tue Feb  2 10:35:02 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:35:02 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Southwest Arizona does a good job, too.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  the west coast of mid Mexico.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
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    Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:56 AM
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    Gee how far south does one have to go to stay warmer <G>
    Dan M
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      From: Darlene Casteel 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:08 AM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


      From Wikipedia:  Alturas has wet, cold winters and warm, dry summers. The average January temperatures are a high of 41.6?F and a low of 16.5?F. The average July temperatures are a high of 88.2?F and a low of 44.3?F. There are an average of 36.2 days with highs of 90?F (32?C) or higher and an average of 203.8 days with lows of 32?F (0?C) or lower. The record high was 108?F on July 8, 2007, and the record low was -34?F on December 9, 1972. Freezing temperatures have occurred in every month of the year; cool nights are common even on the warmest summer days.

      Darlene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
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        Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:51 AM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


        Its about 60+ miles from here to Paisley.
        We will go one day.
        Mark Swisher who hangs out there is in Death Valley Ca right now getting some sun.
        I was thinking about gassing up the little motor home and heading that way too <G>
        Wonder how the weather is in Alturas in the winter ?
        Dan M
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          Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:22 AM
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          They also have a couple of little motels.

          Glen Jones Portland
           



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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Tue Feb  2 10:45:59 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:45:59 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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We had somebody in the family around 1900 who was commited to Oregon State 
Asylum by her own son, just so he could get her property in Eugene, OR. I'm 
sure glad we have better educated doctors and specialists who can now 
diaginois people correctly so a few crazy, greedy family members can't 
commit family so easy.

Nancy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


>I also did not mean to imply that the people they locked up were crazy
> because of their religion.  The problem was the way people were viewed
> at that time in history.  If you were not like everyone else, they
> thought you were crazy and would lock you up.  Sometimes family members
> who had differences of opinions even on politics would have their family
> member committed.  I was doing research on an ancestor who was committed
> in the Oregon State Asylum and lived there for thirty three years before
> she finally died.  I never did find out what was really wrong with her
> but I think she suffered from severe depression because her son was put
> in prison at age 18 for horse theft.  He served his time and when he got
> out he became a Baptist minister.  (more trivia)
> Dale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy
> Lee Adams
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:21 AM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>
> No problem, just hit me wrong. I was one once & still believe in them a
> lot.
> My mother was both Christain Science 1st then baptized a Morman just
> before
> she died in 1971.
>
> Nancy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>
>
>>I am so sorry.  I did not mean to offend anyone.  I can't remember
> which
>> religion it was but only that it was one that was fairly new at that
>> time.  I am not that familiar with all religions and when they were
>> started.  Please accept my apologies.
>> Dale
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy
>> Lee Adams
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:02 AM
>> To: or-roots mail list
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>>
>> Why would you even mention Insane asylum and 'Could have been'
> Jevovah's
>>
>> witnesses. Now I am offended.
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science
>>
>>
>>>I remember reading on the Oregon State Asylum website that there was
>>> some religious group in the early 1900's that were frequently
>> committed
>>> to the insane asylum but I can't for the life of me remember which
>>> religion it was.  Could have been Jehovah's witnesses or some other
>>> later religion.  Sure wish I could remember.
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> 1896, hmmm
>>>
>>> Mormons were persecuted for their beliefs a few years earlier than
>> that
>>> (1840's), but it did & could happen, I suppose --  less so in
> Southern
>>> Oregon, perhaps, where I have some familiarity with such.  But I am
>> not
>>> going to discuss religion on this forum -- history of religion,
>> perhaps,
>>>
>>> but with CS, I have a hard time keeping them separate.
>>>
>>> Bill Strickland
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From 58cjpeterson at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 10:53:54 2010
From: 58cjpeterson at comcast.net (Carol Peterson)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:53:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Test
In-Reply-To: <4B67EF68.50607@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <498564026.2028441265136834935.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I love it, Bill !! Glad to see everyone again. 


Carol Peterson 
(Holzgang, Bachelder, Cantrall, to name a few) 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 1:24:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test 

viuhkola wrote: 



Sure is quiet, is anybody out there? 
Now you see what happens when you jab a stick into a sleeping hornet's nest 

Bill Strickland 

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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  2 10:55:00 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:55:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
In-Reply-To: <A52AADCD8E3E4A0D83123F59A7F83366@NancyPC>
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To have someone committed in Coos county you had to go through a court case, which must have detracted a number of "for profit" type of commitments. And in the records that I looked at recently, there were a lot of issues the person have to have going on before the state was involved. 

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)


      
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From 58cjpeterson at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 11:30:53 2010
From: 58cjpeterson at comcast.net (Carol Peterson)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:30:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
In-Reply-To: <419077031.2039301265138005169.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Hello all. 


I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary: 


Mary A (Ann) Barnett (maiden name Carr) 
Born March 4, 1831 
Died July 8, 1908 in Portland 


I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help. 

Carol Peterson 

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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Tue Feb  2 11:33:56 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:33:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
In-Reply-To: <1213762319.2048101265139053976.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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That?s the same cemetery where my mother?s half sister, Verna Marie Hardwick is buried.  I don?t know the date that she died but it had to be between 1915 and 1919 (I think) and I have not been able to get a death certificate for her either.  She is buried near her step mother and step-siblings.

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Carol Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:31 AM
To: Oregon Genealogy List
Cc: Carol Peterson
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett

 

Hello all.

 

I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary:

 

Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)

Born March 4, 1831

Died July 8, 1908 in Portland

 

I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 

 

Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help.


Carol Peterson

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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Tue Feb  2 11:39:33 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:39:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
References: <1213762319.2048101265139053976.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <971BC557178743F2B73390316A2B2EF1@suesteward>

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Barnett, Mary Ann
County:Multnomah
Death Date:8 Jul 1908
Certificate:7401

By using the death certificate number you can get a copy from the Oregon State Archives.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carol Peterson 
  To: Oregon Genealogy List 
  Cc: Carol Peterson 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett


  Hello all.


  I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary:


  Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
  Born March 4, 1831
  Died July 8, 1908 in Portland


  I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


  Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help.

  Carol Peterson

  58cjpeterson at comcast.net





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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 11:40:34 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:40:34 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Christian Science
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In a discussion of facts and sorting facts there is never any offense 
intended to any one.
   Many people have been put in those places even one of my uncles and I am 
not offended to know I have a Looney uncle it was just something that 
happened.
   I certainly am not offended because some one was seeking an answer to a 
question.
All it takes is a little research to facts.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nancy Lee Adams" <nancydean at columbia-center.org>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Christian Science


> Why would you even mention Insane asylum and 'Could have been' Jevovah's 
> witnesses. Now I am offended.
>
> Nancy
> 



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 11:41:06 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:41:06 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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dry 68 to 72 <G>
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Harguess, Dale 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  What?s your definition of warm? 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 11:43:07 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:43:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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I heard I can even live on my SS down there, but the wife says its not a good place with the cartels going on.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Diane 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  the west coast of mid Mexico. 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 11:44:39 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:44:39 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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Ya. I lived in Wyo where it hit 47 below and in North Yellowstone where is hit the low minus 20`s I am getting tired of winters.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Diane 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  Dan, there has not been any winter this year.   Just wait until we get a winter.  The temps where you are will be easily -30 and you might even have a 'tad' bit of wind.  This will not be aone or 2 day event either.  You better have a good supply of grub on hand.  Diane 
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From 58cjpeterson at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 11:50:20 2010
From: 58cjpeterson at comcast.net (Carol Peterson)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:50:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
In-Reply-To: <971BC557178743F2B73390316A2B2EF1@suesteward>
Message-ID: <268469005.2058851265140220738.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

SUE..THANK YOU!!! 
Why couldn't I find it...I must have been dozing... 
Carol 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:39:33 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett 


Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 
Name:Barnett, Mary Ann 
County:Multnomah 
Death Date:8 Jul 1908 
Certificate:7401 

By using the death certificate number you can get a copy from the Oregon State Archives. 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Carol Peterson 
To: Oregon Genealogy List 
Cc: Carol Peterson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 AM 
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett 


Hello all. 


I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary: 


Mary A (Ann) Barnett (maiden name Carr) 
Born March 4, 1831 
Died July 8, 1908 in Portland 


I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help. 

Carol Peterson 

58cjpeterson at comcast.net 







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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Tue Feb  2 11:50:53 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:50:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
In-Reply-To: <95F85549024F40E7B6D65932428AD8B9@AroundHome>
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Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um.   I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff.

Dale

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

dry 68 to 72 <G>

Dan M

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Harguess, Dale <mailto:dharguess at coastline.edu>  

	To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

	Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM

	Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

	 

	What?s your definition of warm? 

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From 58cjpeterson at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 11:53:42 2010
From: 58cjpeterson at comcast.net (Carol Peterson)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:53:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
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Dale... 
Metro oversees that and several pioneer cemeteries. They have a great search system online and a pdf of the cemetery layout/graves. I sent an email to them and have received extra online help from Emma Russac at Metro. She looked up info, emailed me the headstone paperwork which was ordered in 1952. Let me know if you need assistance. 
Carol 
58cjpeterson at comcast.net 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:33:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett 




That?s the same cemetery where my mother?s half sister, Verna Marie Hardwick is buried. I don?t know the date that she died but it had to be between 1915 and 1919 (I think) and I have not been able to get a death certificate for her either. She is buried near her step mother and step-siblings. 





From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Carol Peterson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:31 AM 
To: Oregon Genealogy List 
Cc: Carol Peterson 
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett 




Hello all. 





I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary: 





Mary A (Ann) Barnett (maiden name Carr) 


Born March 4, 1831 


Died July 8, 1908 in Portland 





I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 





Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help. 



Carol Peterson 

58cjpeterson at comcast.net 


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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 12:19:11 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (glenkc7mbm at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:19:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day. 

Glen Jones Portland 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat 

Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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From viuhkola at clatskanie.com  Tue Feb  2 13:46:55 2010
From: viuhkola at clatskanie.com (viuhkola)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:46:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Test
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Its alot more fun than reading a blank screen :) Glad it worked...Great stuff being brought up.
Carylon
P. S My puter crashed about a month ago and I lost all of my wonderful gen sites I had booked, i.e,  BLM, State archives, gen forum, etc.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test


  viuhkola wrote:

    Sure is quiet, is anybody out there?

  Now you see what happens when you jab a stick into a sleeping hornet's nest

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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 14:02:08 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (glenkc7mbm at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:02:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
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My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.
Glen Jones Portland, Oregon

----- Original Message -----
From: viuhkola 
To: or-roots mail list 
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test




Its alot more fun than reading a blank screen :) Glad it 

worked...Great stuff being brought up.
Carylon
P. S My puter crashed about a month ago and I lost all of my 

wonderful gen sites I had booked, i.e,  BLM, State archives, gen forum, 

etc.

----- Original Message ----- 
From:Chris 

  & Bill Strickland
To:or-roots mail list
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:24 

  AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test

viuhkola wrote:


Sure is quiet, is anybody out 

  there?
Now you see what happens when you jab a 

  stick into a sleeping hornet's nest

Bill Strickland




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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 14:07:58 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:07:58 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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I would settle for 60 its cold here it snowed last night and its still on the ground for the most part out here.
  Roads most likely clear tho.
Dan M
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  From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.

  Glen Jones Portland
   
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 14:10:30 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:10:30 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
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upgrading is not always good, msoft is adding so much spy ware so they can see what you do its not funny.
   Ya IE 8 is said on the msoft website that it cant be uninstalled.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


  My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.
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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Tue Feb  2 15:37:18 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:37:18 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
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Glen

 

I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).

 

Maybe there?s some other problem?

 

Pat

In Tucson

(73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)

 

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

 

My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.
Glen Jones Portland, Oregon

----- Original Message -----
From: viuhkola 
To: or-roots mail list 
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test




Its alot more fun than reading a blank screen :) Glad it 

worked...Great stuff being brought up.

Carylon

P. S My puter crashed about a month ago and I lost all of my 

wonderful gen sites I had booked, i.e,  BLM, State archives, gen forum, 

etc.

----- Original Message ----- 

From:Chris  <mailto:lechevrier at earthlink.net> 

  & Bill Strickland

To:or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:24 

  AM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test


viuhkola wrote:



Sure is quiet, is anybody out 

  there?


Now you see what happens when you jab a 

  stick into a sleeping hornet's nest

Bill Strickland


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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Tue Feb  2 16:04:47 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:04:47 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
Message-ID: <a1ef.3374405f.389a179f@aol.com>

Carol
 
Could you please give the website for the Multnomah  Pioneer Cemetery? I 
have many family members buried there and am planning on  being buried there 
next to my gr grandmother, Ellen Jessup. I too have a gr  grandfather, 
Hulburt. Dewitt Cooper buried there, probably about 1907 but have  never found a 
death cert. for him. He doesn't have a headstone, only a wooden  4X4 sticking 
up in the back corner along with several others. It just has a  letter on 
it but not his initial. I went to the cemetery office several years  ago but 
they wouldn't look up the death record for me, saying it was too old and  
fragile - so  I still don't know just when he died.  Frustrating.
 
Thanks for any help
Carroll (Cooper) Summers
 
Dale...  
Metro oversees that and several pioneer cemeteries. They have a great  
search system online and a pdf of the cemetery layout/graves. I sent an email  
to them and have received extra online help from Emma Russac at Metro. She  
looked up info, emailed me the headstone paperwork which was ordered in 1952. 
 Let me know if you need assistance.
Carol
58cjpeterson at comcast.net

----- Original Message -----
From:  "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list"  <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010  11:33:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A  Barnett


That?s  the same cemetery where my mother?s half sister, Verna Marie 
Hardwick is  buried.  I don?t know the date that she died but it had to be 
between  1915 and 1919 (I think) and I have not been able to get a death 
certificate  for her either.  She is buried near her step mother and  step-siblings. 
 
 
From:  or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us  
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Carol  Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:31 AM
To:  Oregon Genealogy List
Cc: Carol Peterson
Subject:  [or-roots] Mary A Barnett

 
Hello all. 
 

 
I have a gr.gr.gr.  grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer 
Cemetery in Portland,  Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, 
Isabelle Jane Boyd. My  father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. 
Here's the basic information  on Mary:
 

 
Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
 
Born March 4,  1831
 
Died July 8, 1908 in  Portland
 

 
I am having difficulty  finding her death certificate. I searched online 
indexes at the following to  no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital 
Records/Death Index, Genealogical  Forum. 
 

 
Are you able to find  anything? Thank you in advance for your help.
 

Carol  Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net





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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Tue Feb  2 16:09:30 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:09:30 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
Message-ID: <a467.71701535.389a18ba@aol.com>

Just a wee tip - the death certificates are filed by  DATE, not by 
certificate #. However, it is helpful if you are requesting a copy  to give both 
date and cert. #.
 
Carroll (Cooper) Summers
 
 
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Barnett, Mary  Ann
County:Multnomah
Death Date:8 Jul 1908
Certificate:7401
 
By using the death certificate number you can get  a copy from the Oregon 
State Archives.
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Carol Peterson_ (mailto:58cjpeterson at comcast.net)  
To: _Oregon Genealogy List_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)   
Cc: _Carol Peterson_ (mailto:58cjpeterson at comcast.net)  
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30  AM
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A  Barnett


Hello all.  


I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer  
Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter,  
Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday.  
Here's the basic information on Mary:


Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
Born March 4, 1831
Died July 8, 1908 in Portland


I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online  
indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital  
Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your  help.

Carol  Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net




 
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 17:03:16 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (glenkc7mbm at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 01:03:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
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When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's



Glen
 
I?ve

had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).
 
Maybe

there?s some other problem?
 
Pat
In

Tucson
(73

degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)
 
 


From:

or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's
 
My Computer just crashed this

morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own

virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at

$60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will

not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.


Glen Jones Portland, Oregon



----- Original Message -----


From: viuhkola 


To: or-roots mail list 


Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC)


Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test




Its alot more fun than reading a blank screen :) Glad it 



worked...Great stuff being brought up.

Carylon

P. S My puter crashed about a month ago and I lost all of my 



wonderful gen sites I had booked, i.e,  BLM, State archives, gen forum, 



etc.


----- Original Message ----- 

From:Chris 



  & Bill Strickland

To:or-roots mail list

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:24 



  AM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test



viuhkola wrote:



Sure is quiet, is anybody out 



  there?



Now you see what happens when you jab a 



  stick into a sleeping hornet's nest



Bill Strickland



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From 58cjpeterson at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 17:13:33 2010
From: 58cjpeterson at comcast.net (Carol Peterson)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 01:13:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Barnett & Multnomah Park Cemetery
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I emailed what Sue gave me to the Archives Research email address. Received it back within an hour with a $5.00 invoice! Not bad! I'm sure the process is different if you want it certified. 


In a separate email I sent the url for Metro. There's a search box at the top right. Type in Pioneer Cemeteries or Multnomah Park and you'll get a new search page. When you search by last name only, you'll receive applicable info from all cemeteries, not just one. 


I just thought of this. While I was visiting the cemetery Sunday, a gentleman introduced himself as Eric Cordingley. He lives near the cemetery and volunteers his time keeping records updated, looking for gravesites, etc. He may be able to help with cemetery info as well. 


"Friends Of Multnomah Park Cemetery" <multnomahparkcemetery at gmail.com> 
5120 SE 87th St., Portland, OR 97266 
cecordingley at gmail.com 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 4:09:30 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett 


Just a wee tip - the death certificates are filed by DATE, not by certificate #. However, it is helpful if you are requesting a copy to give both date and cert. #. 

Carroll (Cooper) Summers 




Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 
Name:Barnett, Mary Ann 
County:Multnomah 
Death Date:8 Jul 1908 
Certificate:7401 

By using the death certificate number you can get a copy from the Oregon State Archives. 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Carol Peterson 
To: Oregon Genealogy List 
Cc: Carol Peterson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 AM 
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett 


Hello all. 


I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary: 


Mary A (Ann) Barnett (maiden name Carr) 
Born March 4, 1831 
Died July 8, 1908 in Portland 


I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help. 

Carol Peterson 

58cjpeterson at comcast.net 







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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Tue Feb  2 17:31:27 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:31:27 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.

Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.

  Glen Jones Portland



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
  To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

  Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Tue Feb  2 17:38:42 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:38:42 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
References: <441507489.2462401265158996434.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <91724689322D47CDAB51E8D890FD39F3@Darlene>

I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using Firefox.

Darlene

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


  When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
  I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kith-n-Kin 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


  Glen

  I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

  virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).  Maybe

  there?s some other problem?  

  Pat In Tucson

  (73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)





  From:

  or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

  [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
  To: or-roots mail list
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

  My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
  virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.


  Glen Jones Portland, Oregon




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From djrusty at verizon.net  Tue Feb  2 18:23:06 2010
From: djrusty at verizon.net (Donna Ward)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:23:06 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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	<A4436F9D2C8F41B982C3B6ECA223BA0F@Darlene>
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If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.

 

Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 

To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.

Glen Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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From Cuprum4445 at aol.com  Tue Feb  2 20:33:21 2010
From: Cuprum4445 at aol.com (Cuprum4445 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:33:21 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Internet
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Hey listers - We're watching a show on PBS now about Internet  addiction.  
Does that describe any of us?  (Tee hee)
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From pmml at meritel.net  Tue Feb  2 20:45:21 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:45:21 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
In-Reply-To: <1213762319.2048101265139053976.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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I have a Joseph Barnet married      Mary Helen Leabo.  other husband Hiram Dunn
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carol Peterson 
  To: Oregon Genealogy List 
  Cc: Carol Peterson 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett


  Hello all.


  I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary:


  Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
  Born March 4, 1831
  Died July 8, 1908 in Portland


  I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


  Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help.

  Carol Peterson

  58cjpeterson at comcast.net





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From pdxlinda1 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  2 20:50:34 2010
From: pdxlinda1 at yahoo.com (linda)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:50:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
In-Reply-To: <91724689322D47CDAB51E8D890FD39F3@Darlene>
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It is virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet Explorer.? It is so entwined in the operating system
it is unbelievable.? Its like a persons central nervous system.

i sent three links to help with the problem of gunkware.
They are all free.? Malwarebytes (the first one) is absolutely 
amazing as far as cleaning up goes.
AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.? i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.? 
These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it. 

http://www.malwarebytes.org/

http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


linda



--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net> wrote:

From: Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net>
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:38 PM

?

 
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I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but 
I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall 
it.? I'm now using Firefox.
?
Darlene
?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
  crash's
  
When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program 
  called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told 
  me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted 
  me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic 
  updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my 
  programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or 
  remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my 
  computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an 
  Email to microsoft and they will not even reply.?

----- Original Message 
  -----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 
  (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


  
  Glen
  I?ve had IE 8 on 
  one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

virus 
  checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).? 
  Maybe

there?s 
  some other problem?? 
  Pat In?Tucson
  (73 degrees and 
  holding, rain this evening ???)
  ?
  ?
  
  
  From:

or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] 
  On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: 
  Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail 
  list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
  crash's
  My Computer just 
  crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, 
  it has its own 
virus program, and locks up your computer until you 
  download the program at? $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my 
  computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs 
  including the internet.


Glen Jones Portland, 
  Oregon




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From madrake at techline.com  Tue Feb  2 20:57:58 2010
From: madrake at techline.com (Marilyn Drake)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:57:58 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
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I just had this problem at work the tech went into a site on the computer that lists the downloads updates and deleted IE8. We now use IE7.

If you go to control panel and find the windows update icon. Double click on it and you will see something that says view  update history. Click on it. It will list all the updates on your computer. That is where you can delete IE8.

Hope this helps


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: linda 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


        It is virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet Explorer.  It is so entwined in the operating system
        it is unbelievable.  Its like a persons central nervous system.

        i sent three links to help with the problem of gunkware.
        They are all free.  Malwarebytes (the first one) is absolutely 
        amazing as far as cleaning up goes.
        AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and running both even if you have another virus program.
        The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
        browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.  
        These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it. 

        http://www.malwarebytes.org/

        http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

        http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


        linda



        --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net> wrote:


          From: Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net>
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's
          To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
          Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:38 PM

          ? 
          I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using Firefox.

          Darlene

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
            To: or-roots mail list 
            Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


            When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
            I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Kith-n-Kin 
            To: 'or-roots mail list' 
            Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


            Glen

            I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

            virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).  Maybe

            there?s some other problem?  

            Pat In Tucson

            (73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)





            From:

            or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

            [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
            Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
            To: or-roots mail list
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

            My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
            virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.


            Glen Jones Portland, Oregon





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From lschiendel at aol.com  Tue Feb  2 22:15:13 2010
From: lschiendel at aol.com (lschiendel)
Date: Tue,  2 Feb 2010 22:15:13 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
In-Reply-To: <a467.71701535.389a18ba@aol.com>
References: <a467.71701535.389a18ba@aol.com>
Message-ID: <33f8ebae.524a.494b.b6c5.88ca42ec025a@aol.com>

When I was searching at the Archives in Salem  for death certificates  I needed to know what  county  they were in.

Lillian



In a message dated 02/02/10 16:10:03 Pacific Standard Time, CARROLLOUC writes:
Just a wee tip - the death certificates are filed by DATE, not by certificate #. However, it is helpful if you are requesting a copy to give both date and cert. #.

Carroll (Cooper) Summers

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Barnett, Mary Ann
County:Multnomah
Death Date:8 Jul 1908
Certificate:7401

By using the death certificate number you can get a copy from the Oregon State Archives.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Carol Peterson 
To: Oregon Genealogy List 
Cc: Carol Peterson 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett


Hello all. 


I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary:


Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
Born March 4, 1831
Died July 8, 1908 in Portland


I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help.

Carol Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net






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From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 22:16:32 2010
From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 06:16:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Test
In-Reply-To: <8CE433672FF64053B09BEA903FBF1010@YOURD9C5A23699>
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One of the things I enjoy about reading emails on this list and others related list I subscribed to is the fact that I am always learning something new. 





? 

And I know we have all heard about backing up our data. ? But I do not believe I have heard anyone suggest backing up web sites that are important to you. 





? 

Since I have four computers, two for home use and two for travel including researching I am a firm believer in the use of portable hard drives. ? I have six of them. ? Two in a safe deposit box at all times. ? And I rotate them at least once a month. 





? 

So If I find a web site on this computer that I want to revisit I save it here and then part of my monthly or pre travel check list it to back everything up on a least two portable hard drives and secure one hard drive and take another one with me when I travel. 





? 

Below are the steps I take to access the folder containing the web sites important to me. ? I then copy and paste the complete contents of this folder to a new folder on my portable hard drive. 





? 

I hope this helps. 





? 

Eugene Melvin 





? 

C:\ 





? 

C:\Documents and Settings 





? 

C:\Documents and Settings\user 





? 

C:\Documents and Settings\user\Favorites 





? 

C:\Documents and Settings\user\Favorites\FAMILY RESEARCH 





? 







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From: "viuhkola" <viuhkola at clatskanie.com> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 1:46:55 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test 


Its alot more fun than reading a blank screen :) Glad it worked...Great stuff being brought up. 
Carylon 

P. S My puter crashed about a month ago and I lost all of my wonderful gen sites I had booked, i.e, ?BLM, State archives, gen forum, etc.
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From LinLouVan at aol.com  Tue Feb  2 22:19:51 2010
From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 01:19:51 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Test - Backing Up
Message-ID: <5661.4622a9f4.389a6f87@aol.com>

 
What a great idea Eugene! And people tease me about being organized!
Linda VanOrden
 
 
In a message dated 2/2/2010 10:16:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net writes:

One of the things I enjoy  about reading emails on this list and others 
related list I subscribed to is  the fact that I am always learning something 
new. 
And I know we have all heard  about backing up our data.  But I  do not 
believe I have heard anyone suggest backing up web sites that are  important to 
you. 
Since I have four computers,  two for home use and two for travel including 
researching I am a firm believer  in the use of portable hard drives.   I 
have six of them.  Two in  a safe deposit box at all times.   And I rotate 
them at least once a month. 
So If I find a web site on  this computer that I want to revisit I save it 
here and then part of my  monthly or pre travel check list it to back 
everything up on a least two  portable hard drives and secure one hard drive and 
take another one with me  when I travel. 
Below are the steps I take  to access the folder containing the web sites 
important to me.  I then copy and paste the complete  contents of this folder 
to a new folder on my portable hard  drive. 
I hope this  helps. 
Eugene  Melvin 
C:\ 
C:\Documents and  Settings 
C:\Documents and  Settings\user 
C:\Documents and  Settings\user\Favorites 
C:\Documents and  Settings\user\Favorites\FAMILY RESEARCH 



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From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 22:46:43 2010
From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 06:46:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Test - Backing Up
In-Reply-To: <5661.4622a9f4.389a6f87@aol.com>
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How about being paranoid, once upon a time I used to work for an office in the USAF that published the weekly flying schedules for the SR71, U2, T38 and KC135 aircrafts. ? This was in the days of 5 inch floppy disks. ? Well every Friday at noon I would always back up this schedule. ? A printed copy was produced every Friday afternoon and literally the whole based depended on this schedule. 





? 

Well a couple of months after I got transferred to another office and was walking back through my old office. ? My replacement had not bothered to continue the practice of backing up the flying schedule and you guess it. ? The folks from the base IT department were there attempting to find the lost data. ? In the end they had to rebuilt the complete scheduled from the ground up. ? It took the whole weekend and many hours of extra work. 





? 

The moral to this story is to always back up your data. ? When you update your computer and or software always keep the previous versions on another computer and make copies for you new computer to use. ? And only when you are really comfortable with the new computer and or software I might then entertain the thought of migrating to the newer versions. 





? 

Eugene 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: LinLouVan at aol.com 
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 10:19:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test - Backing Up 



What a great idea Eugene! And people tease me about being organized! 
Linda VanOrden 


In a message dated 2/2/2010 10:16:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net writes: 



One of the things I enjoy about reading emails on this list and others related list I subscribed to is the fact that I am always learning something new. 



And I know we have all heard about backing up our data. ? But I do not believe I have heard anyone suggest backing up web sites that are important to you. 



Since I have four computers, two for home use and two for travel including researching I am a firm believer in the use of portable hard drives. ? I have six of them. ? Two in a safe deposit box at all times. ? And I rotate them at least once a month. 



So If I find a web site on this computer that I want to revisit I save it here and then part of my monthly or pre travel check list it to back everything up on a least two portable hard drives and secure one hard drive and take another one with me when I travel. 



Below are the steps I take to access the folder containing the web sites important to me. ? I then copy and paste the complete contents of this folder to a new folder on my portable hard drive. 



I hope this helps. 



Eugene Melvin 



C:\ 



C:\Documents and Settings 



C:\Documents and Settings\user 



C:\Documents and Settings\user\Favorites 



C:\Documents and Settings\user\Favorites\FAMILY RESEARCH
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From rayp6217 at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 22:52:43 2010
From: rayp6217 at comcast.net (Ray Powell)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:52:43 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
References: <1133510024.2367811265148128369.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1BBA2F2A90BD41338DA789B772199BC8@DELL6217>

Unless you downloaded from a bad site you are in error that it has a virus program. I have been using it fro at least a couple of months and the only problem I have with it is when i go to sites that have not upgraded their programming. Then all I have to do is click the little broken icon up by the address box and tell it to run in compatibility mode and it works pretty fair. the reason I say fair is that sometimes I have to hit refresh a couple of times to get it to load a page completely.

Ray
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


  My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.
  Glen Jones Portland, Oregon

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: viuhkola 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC)
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test




  Its alot more fun than reading a blank screen :) Glad it 

  worked...Great stuff being brought up.
  Carylon
  P. S My puter crashed about a month ago and I lost all of my 

  wonderful gen sites I had booked, i.e,  BLM, State archives, gen forum, 

  etc.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:Chris 

      & Bill Strickland
    To:or-roots mail list
    Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:24 

      AM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Test

    viuhkola wrote:

      Sure is quiet, is anybody out 

        there?

    Now you see what happens when you jab a 

      stick into a sleeping hornet's nest

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From wm0g at comcast.net  Tue Feb  2 22:53:59 2010
From: wm0g at comcast.net (wm0g at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 06:53:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
In-Reply-To: <91724689322D47CDAB51E8D890FD39F3@Darlene>
Message-ID: <1787059945.2225491265180039727.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Sounds to me more like you were 'had' by a anti-malware virus. IE8 will not give you anything like you described.?The anti-malware will and try to send you via a Trojan virus to a false program that will further?harm your computer. I think I am fairly computer savvy and I was had by one of these last month. 

?Jack Ciaccia 
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" 
(When all else fails, play dead) 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darlene Casteel" <darlene at thecasteels.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:38:42 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's 

? 
I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall it.? I'm now using Firefox. 

Darlene 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
To: or-roots mail list 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's 

When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal. 
I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. ? 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC) 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's 




Glen 

I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of 

virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).? Maybe 

there?s some other problem?? 

Pat In?Tucson 

(73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???) 







From: 

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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM 
To: or-roots mail list 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's 

My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at? $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet. 


Glen Jones Portland, Oregon 




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From cklooster at aol.com  Tue Feb  2 23:28:18 2010
From: cklooster at aol.com (cklooster at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:28:18 -0500
Subject: [or-roots] chat
In-Reply-To: <001501caa477$d2596d60$770c4820$@net>
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Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.





-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>
To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 
 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.

 

Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.


----- Original Message ----- 

From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 

To: or-roots mail list 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.
Glen Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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From djrusty at verizon.net  Tue Feb  2 23:32:41 2010
From: djrusty at verizon.net (Donna Ward)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:32:41 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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References: <866870077.2311111265141951789.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><A4436F9D2C8F41B982C3B6ECA223BA0F@Darlene>
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I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go along with the majority on this. 

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of cklooster at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:28 PM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>
To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 

 

From:  <mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ <mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us?> mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.

 

Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.

----- Original Message ----- 

From:  <mailto:glenkc7mbm at comcast.net> glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 

To:  <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> or-roots mail list 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 

While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.

Glen Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Harguess" < <mailto:dharguess at coastline.edu> dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" < <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From:  <mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ <mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us?> mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 23:42:27 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:42:27 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <866870077.2311111265141951789.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><A4436F9D2C8F41B982C3B6ECA223BA0F@Darlene>
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How we gonna find out what individuals to talk to unless we say Its snowing and blowing n cold here on the high desert.
   Maybe the most of the groups enjoying a little life on the net too.
  Kinda like going to a pot luck and telling every one not to speak ;(
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donna Ward 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


  If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 

   

  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM
  To: or-roots mail list
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

   

  We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.

   

  Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 

    To: or-roots mail list 

    Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM

    Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

     

    While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.

    Glen Jones Portland



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
    To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
    Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

    Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 23:44:39 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:44:39 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Internet
References: <cc.2776044a.389a5691@aol.com>
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Not me. No way. I can get away from the PC and do other things most of the day while I wonder whats going on <G>
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cuprum4445 at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Internet


  Hey listers - We're watching a show on PBS now about Internet addiction.  
  Does that describe any of us?  (Tee hee)
  Gerrie


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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 23:45:55 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:45:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett
References: <1213762319.2048101265139053976.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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There was a Fred Dunn in Medford who was my step dads brother in Law.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett


  I have a Joseph Barnet married      Mary Helen Leabo.  other husband Hiram Dunn
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Carol Peterson 
    To: Oregon Genealogy List 
    Cc: Carol Peterson 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 AM
    Subject: [or-roots] Mary A Barnett


    Hello all. 


    I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary:


    Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
    Born March 4, 1831
    Died July 8, 1908 in Portland


    I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


    Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your help.

    Carol Peterson

    58cjpeterson at comcast.net





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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb  2 23:50:00 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:50:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
References: <893546.68177.qm@web53602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1EE4AF19150349CAA6EDF1099A4353F2@AroundHome>

Yes AVG is good, while also still free how ever Trend Micro at 49 buks a 
year takes first place. And far superior. I use AVG cus I like my money<G> 
Trend and AVG treat mal ware, also be sure you download mozillia firefox and 
not just plain mozilla.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: linda
To: or-roots mail list
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and 
running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.
These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it.
 



From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com  Tue Feb  2 23:32:21 2010
From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 02:32:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [or-roots] chat
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Wed Feb  3 05:40:38 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:40:38 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
In-Reply-To: <002d01caa4a3$11f0aad0$35d20070$@net>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEIHCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Hey folks; Donna has a legitimate complaint. Layne gives us a lot of freedom to be "chatty" on here and only rarely rebukes us for our misbehaior, but Donna IS right this is a genealogy and history list and she has 

politely

asked us to return to that focus and while I enjoy the fact that we do not follow the rigid protocols that some lists adhere to, we still need to keep it civil and focused on the history and genealogy.

Les C



I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go along with the majority on this. 



From darlene at thecasteels.net  Wed Feb  3 07:04:36 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:04:36 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
References: <893546.68177.qm@web53602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <10276C98C6184FFB8C18A737846666CD@Darlene>

I had to take my computer to a repair facility about a month ago, and they recommend both Malwarebytes & AVG.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: linda 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


        It is virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet Explorer.  It is so entwined in the operating system
        it is unbelievable.  Its like a persons central nervous system.

        i sent three links to help with the problem of gunkware.
        They are all free.  Malwarebytes (the first one) is absolutely 
        amazing as far as cleaning up goes.
        AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and running both even if you have another virus program.
        The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
        browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.  
        These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it. 

        http://www.malwarebytes.org/

        http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

        http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


        linda



        --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net> wrote:


          From: Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net>
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's
          To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
          Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:38 PM

          ? 
          I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using Firefox.

          Darlene

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 
            To: or-roots mail list 
            Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


            When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
            I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Kith-n-Kin 
            To: 'or-roots mail list' 
            Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


            Glen

            I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

            virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).  Maybe

            there?s some other problem?  

            Pat In Tucson

            (73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)





            From:

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            [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
            Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
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            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

            My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
            virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.


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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Wed Feb  3 07:13:20 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (glenkc7mbm at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:13:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
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Well I downloaded from Microsofts download site, enough said lets get back to genealogy.
If anyone is interested.
The Washington State Genealogy Societies annual conference is is Chehalis, Washington September 17-18 this year, they do not yet have the registration online, but will later.

The Oregon Heritage Conference is going to be regional conference's this year so if you are interested in that you can get the info from their website, both of these conferences you can get good info for genealogy.
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From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (glenkc7mbm at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:18:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Test - Backing Up
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Yes! Always back up your data
, I back mine up to two different computers and to CD as well as 3 flash drives, and just bought a 1tb external hard drive to back up 3 computers.
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From birdman_326 at msn.com  Wed Feb  3 07:58:20 2010
From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:58:20 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 12
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Dorothy Mae Powell

Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 

I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother, George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton, OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle, 1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any ideas????  Thanks,  Laura
 
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's






Sounds to me more like you were 'had' by a anti-malware virus. IE8 will not give you anything like you described. The anti-malware will and try to send you via a Trojan virus to a false program that will further harm your computer. I think I am fairly computer savvy and I was had by one of these last month. 

 Jack Ciaccia
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" 
(When all else fails, play dead)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darlene Casteel" <darlene at thecasteels.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:38:42 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

? 





I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using Firefox.

 

Darlene

 



----- Original Message ----- 

From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 

To: or-roots mail list 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's





Glen

I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).  Maybe

there?s some other problem?  

Pat In Tucson

(73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)

 

 





From:

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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.


Glen Jones Portland, Oregon




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Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.














-----Original Message-----

From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>

To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
















If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 



 









From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM

To: or-roots mail list

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat





 






We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.







 







Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.









----- Original Message ----- 







From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 







To: or-roots mail list 







Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM







Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat







 







While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.



Glen Jones Portland







----- Original Message -----

From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>

To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the
leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go
along with the majority on this. 


 





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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:28 PM

To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat




 


Y'know, Donna...this subject line
for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While
people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical
topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do
come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function
provided by your mail server is for.


 





-----Original Message-----

From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>

To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat











If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your
individuals not to the entire group. 







 













From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM

To: or-roots mail list

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat











 










We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile
back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at
Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been
in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.












 












Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.















----- Original Message ----- 












From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 












To: or-roots
mail list 












Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM












Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat












 












While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff
lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us
updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.







Glen Jones Portland







----- Original Message -----

From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>

To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out
to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all
this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail
list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message
----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02,
2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:42:27 -0800
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How we gonna find out what individuals to talk to 
unless we say Its snowing and blowing n cold here on the high 
desert.

   Maybe the most of the groups enjoying 
a little life on the net too.

  Kinda like going to a pot luck and telling 
every one not to speak ;(

Dan M



----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
Donna Ward 


To: 'or-roots mail list' 


Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:23 
PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat






If 
you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the 
entire group. 

 





From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of 
Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 
PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
chat

 



We did have a year's 
worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious 
winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically 
destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, 
and the tomato plants are happy again.



 



Darlene, snowbirding 
in Yuma.





----- Original 
Message ----- 



From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 




To: or-roots mail list 




Sent: Tuesday, 
February 02, 2010 1:19 PM



Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
chat



 



While 
Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of 
snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us 
updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the 
day.


Glen 
Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale 
Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: 
"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: 
Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada 
Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Sounds like Arizona to me and 
if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday 
so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale 
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: 
Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: 
[or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: 
Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 
AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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Not me. No way. I can get away from the PC and do other things most of the 
day while I wonder whats going on <G>

Dan M



----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
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To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 


Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:33 
PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Internet




Hey listers - We're watching a show on PBS now about Internet 
addiction.  

Does that describe any of us?  (Tee hee)

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There was a Fred Dunn in Medford who was my step 
dads brother in Law.

Dan M



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From: 
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To: or-roots mail list 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:45 
PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A 
Barnett




I have a Joseph Barnet 
married      Mary Helen Leabo.  other husband 
Hiram Dunn



----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
Carol Peterson 

To: Oregon Genealogy List 


Cc: Carol Peterson 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 
AM

Subject: [or-roots] Mary A 
Barnett




Hello all. 




I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer 
Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, 
Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. 
Here's the basic information on Mary:




Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)

Born March 4, 1831

Died July 8, 1908 in Portland




I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online 
indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital 
Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 




Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your 
help.


Carol 
Peterson

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:50:00 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

Yes AVG is good, while also still free how ever Trend Micro at 49 buks a 
year takes first place. And far superior. I use AVG cus I like my money<G> 
Trend and AVG treat mal ware, also be sure you download mozillia firefox and 
not just plain mozilla.
Dan M
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From: linda
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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's
 
 
AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and 
running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.
These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it.
 
 
 


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That's pretty rude.




-----Original Message----- 
From: cklooster at aol.com 
Sent: Feb 3, 2010 2:28 AM 
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat 

Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.







-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>
To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat











If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 

 





From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

 



We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.



 



Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.





----- Original Message ----- 



From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 



To: or-roots mail list 



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM



Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



 



While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.

Glen Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
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To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:40:38 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Hey folks; Donna has a legitimate complaint. Layne gives us a lot of freedom to be "chatty" on here and only rarely rebukes us for our misbehaior, but Donna IS right this is a genealogy and history list and she has 
 
politely
 
asked us to return to that focus and while I enjoy the fact that we do not follow the rigid protocols that some lists adhere to, we still need to keep it civil and focused on the history and genealogy.
 
Les C
 
 
 
I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go along with the majority on this. 
 
 


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I had to take my computer to a repair facility about a 
month ago, and they recommend both Malwarebytes & AVG.



----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
linda 


To: or-roots mail list 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:50 
PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
crash's














It is 
virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet 
Explorer.  It is so entwined in the operating system
it is 
unbelievable.  Its like a persons central nervous system.

i 
sent three links to help with the problem of 
gunkware.
They are all free.  Malwarebytes (the 
first one) is absolutely 
amazing as far as cleaning up goes.
AVG 
is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and 
running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is 
to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.  i 
recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.  

These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth 
it. 

http://www.malwarebytes.org/





http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


linda



--- 
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<darlene at thecasteels.net> wrote:



From: 
Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net>
Subject: Re: 
[or-roots] Computer crash's
To: "or-roots mail list" 
<or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Tuesday, February 
2, 2010, 5:38 PM



? 





I don't know anything about a Virus Soft 
program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried 
unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using 
Firefox.

 

Darlene

 



----- 
Original Message ----- 

From: 
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 


To: 
or-roots mail 
list 

Sent: 
Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM

Subject: 
Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a 
Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus 
Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected 
with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft 
program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had 
to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into 
the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I 
said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer 
back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an 
Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

----- Original Message 
-----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: 
Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
Computer crash's





Glen

I?ve 
had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No 
question of

virus checking programs (of course I already had 
one on the computer).  Maybe

there?s 
some other problem?  

Pat 
In Tucson

(73 
degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)

 

 





From:

or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] 
On Behalf Of 
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, 
February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail 
list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
crash's

My 
Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade 
to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
virus program, and locks 
up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I 
had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it 
will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the 
internet.


Glen Jones Portland, 
Oregon




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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Wed Feb  3 08:23:49 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:23:49 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
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Have tried that.  I can uninstall IE8 security updates, but there is no option to uninstall the program itself.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marilyn Drake 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


  I just had this problem at work the tech went into a site on the computer that lists the downloads updates and deleted IE8. We now use IE7.

  If you go to control panel and find the windows update icon. Double click on it and you will see something that says view  update history. Click on it. It will list all the updates on your computer. That is where you can delete IE8.

  Hope this helps


  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: linda 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


          It is virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet Explorer.  It is so entwined in the operating system
          it is unbelievable.  Its like a persons central nervous system.

          i sent three links to help with the problem of gunkware.
          They are all free.  Malwarebytes (the first one) is absolutely 
          amazing as far as cleaning up goes.
          AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and running both even if you have another virus program.
          The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
          browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.  
          These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it. 

          http://www.malwarebytes.org/

          http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

          http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


          linda





         


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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Wed Feb  3 09:39:36 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:39:36 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 12
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Laura

 

No success on Laura, but on Ida, we have:

 

Name: Powell, Ida 

County: Umatilla 

Death Date: 28 Mar 1938 

Certificate: 82 

Spouse: George

 

Ida, Dorothy and George appear on the 1920 census of Linn County. Ida is divorced.

Dorothy is 4 11/12, when the census was done on 3d and 5th January, 1920, which gives her a DoB of about Feb 1915.

 

Unfortunately the Oregon Death Index doesn?t have DoB?s much for deaths as early as the 1930?s.

 

And, I don?t see any Oregon Marriages after 1920. 

 

If you think she was married in Umatilla, you might write to the Court House there and ask. Once you have a married name, you can go from there.  If she married at age 16 or 17, she would surely have had parent(s) permission.

 

Pat

In Tucson

 

Dorothy Mae Powell
Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 
I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother, George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton, OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle, 1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any ideas????  Thanks,  Laura
 

 

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From birdman_326 at msn.com  Wed Feb  3 09:55:52 2010
From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:55:52 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13
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Dorothy M. Powell

So sorry, I seen that I didn't put the mom's full name> Ida Mckinley (Pugh) Powell.  Thanks again, Laura
 
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Subject: or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:52:53 -0800

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Well I downloaded from Microsofts download site, enough said lets get back to genealogy.
If anyone is interested.
The Washington State Genealogy Societies annual conference is is Chehalis, Washington September 17-18 this year, they do not yet have the registration online, but will later.

The Oregon Heritage Conference is going to be regional conference's this year so if you are interested in that you can get the info from their website, both of these conferences you can get good info for genealogy.
Glen Jones Portland

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Yes! Always back up your data
, I back mine up to two different computers and to CD as well as 3 flash drives, and just bought a 1tb external hard drive to back up 3 computers.
Glen Jones Portland

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Dorothy Mae Powell

Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 

I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother, George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton, OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle, 1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any ideas????  Thanks,  Laura
 
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Sounds to me more like you were 'had' by a anti-malware virus. IE8 will not give you anything like you described. The anti-malware will and try to send you via a Trojan virus to a false program that will further harm your computer. I think I am fairly computer savvy and I was had by one of these last month. 

 Jack Ciaccia
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" 
(When all else fails, play dead)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darlene Casteel" <darlene at thecasteels.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:38:42 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

? 








I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using Firefox.


 


Darlene


 





----- Original Message ----- 


From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 


To: or-roots mail list 


Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM


Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's



When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's







Glen


I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).  Maybe

there?s some other problem?  


Pat In Tucson


(73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)


 


 








From:

or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.


Glen Jones Portland, Oregon




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Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.
















-----Original Message-----

From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>

To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat





















If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 




 












From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM

To: or-roots mail list

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat






 








We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.









 









Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.












----- Original Message ----- 









From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 









To: or-roots mail list 









Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM









Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat









 









While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.




Glen Jones Portland







----- Original Message -----

From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>

To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the
leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go
along with the majority on this. 



 







From:
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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of cklooster at aol.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:28 PM

To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat





 



Y'know, Donna...this subject line
for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While
people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical
topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do
come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function
provided by your mail server is for.



 







-----Original Message-----

From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>

To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat















If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your
individuals not to the entire group. 









 

















From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM

To: or-roots mail list

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat













 













We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile
back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at
Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been
in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.















 















Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.



















----- Original Message ----- 















From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 















To: or-roots
mail list 















Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM















Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat















 















While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff
lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us
updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.









Glen Jones Portland







----- Original Message -----

From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>

To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out
to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all
this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail
list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message
----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02,
2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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How we gonna find out what individuals to talk to 
unless we say Its snowing and blowing n cold here on the high 
desert.


   Maybe the most of the groups enjoying 
a little life on the net too.


  Kinda like going to a pot luck and telling 
every one not to speak ;(


Dan M





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From: 
Donna Ward 



To: 'or-roots mail list' 



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:23 
PM


Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat









If 
you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the 
entire group. 


 








From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of 
Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 
PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
chat


 





We did have a year's 
worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious 
winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically 
destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, 
and the tomato plants are happy again.





 





Darlene, snowbirding 
in Yuma.








----- Original 
Message ----- 





From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 






To: or-roots mail list 






Sent: Tuesday, 
February 02, 2010 1:19 PM





Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
chat





 




While 
Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of 
snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us 
updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the 
day.


Glen 
Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale 
Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: 
"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: 
Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada 
Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Sounds like Arizona to me and 
if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday 
so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale 
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: 
Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: 
[or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: 
Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 
AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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Not me. No way. I can get away from the PC and do other things most of the 
day while I wonder whats going on <G>


Dan M





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From: 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:33 
PM


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Hey listers - We're watching a show on PBS now about Internet 
addiction.  


Does that describe any of us?  (Tee hee)


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There was a Fred Dunn in Medford who was my step 
dads brother in Law.


Dan M





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From: 
Marsha 
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To: or-roots mail list 


Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:45 
PM


Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A 
Barnett






I have a Joseph Barnet 
married      Mary Helen Leabo.  other husband 
Hiram Dunn





----- Original Message ----- 


From: 
Carol Peterson 


To: Oregon Genealogy List 



Cc: Carol Peterson 


Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 
AM


Subject: [or-roots] Mary A 
Barnett






Hello all. 






I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer 
Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, 
Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. 
Here's the basic information on Mary:






Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)


Born March 4, 1831


Died July 8, 1908 in Portland






I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online 
indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital 
Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 






Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your 
help.



Carol 
Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net














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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:50:00 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

Yes AVG is good, while also still free how ever Trend Micro at 49 buks a 
year takes first place. And far superior. I use AVG cus I like my money<G> 
Trend and AVG treat mal ware, also be sure you download mozillia firefox and 
not just plain mozilla.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: linda
To: or-roots mail list
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's
 
 
AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and 
running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.
These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it.
 
 
 


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That's pretty rude.





-----Original Message----- 
From: cklooster at aol.com 
Sent: Feb 3, 2010 2:28 AM 
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Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.









-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>
To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat
















If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 


 








From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


 





We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.





 





Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.








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From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 





To: or-roots mail list 





Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM





Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat





 





While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.


Glen Jones Portland



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To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:40:38 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Hey folks; Donna has a legitimate complaint. Layne gives us a lot of freedom to be "chatty" on here and only rarely rebukes us for our misbehaior, but Donna IS right this is a genealogy and history list and she has 
 
politely
 
asked us to return to that focus and while I enjoy the fact that we do not follow the rigid protocols that some lists adhere to, we still need to keep it civil and focused on the history and genealogy.
 
Les C
 
 
 
I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go along with the majority on this. 
 
 


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I had to take my computer to a repair facility about a 
month ago, and they recommend both Malwarebytes & AVG.





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From: 
linda 



To: or-roots mail list 


Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:50 
PM


Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
crash's





















It is 
virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet 
Explorer.  It is so entwined in the operating system
it is 
unbelievable.  Its like a persons central nervous system.

i 
sent three links to help with the problem of 
gunkware.
They are all free.  Malwarebytes (the 
first one) is absolutely 
amazing as far as cleaning up goes.
AVG 
is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and 
running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is 
to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.  i 
recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.  

These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth 
it. 

http://www.malwarebytes.org/







http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


linda



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From: 
Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net>
Subject: Re: 
[or-roots] Computer crash's
To: "or-roots mail list" 
<or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Tuesday, February 
2, 2010, 5:38 PM




? 








I don't know anything about a Virus Soft 
program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried 
unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using 
Firefox.


 


Darlene


 





----- 
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From: 
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To: 
or-roots mail 
list 


Sent: 
Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM


Subject: 
Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's



When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a 
Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus 
Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected 
with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft 
program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had 
to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into 
the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I 
said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer 
back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an 
Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

----- Original Message 
-----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: 
Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
Computer crash's







Glen


I?ve 
had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No 
question of

virus checking programs (of course I already had 
one on the computer).  Maybe

there?s 
some other problem?  


Pat 
In Tucson


(73 
degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)


 


 








From:

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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] 
On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, 
February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
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list
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crash's


My 
Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade 
to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
virus program, and locks 
up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I 
had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it 
will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the 
internet.


Glen Jones Portland, 
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:59:28 +0000
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Dorothy M. Powell

Thankyou, Pat.  I'll try the courthouse, as you suggested.  Take care to have a great sunny day!!!!  thanks again,  Laura
 
From: or-roots-request at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 14
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:50:27 -0800

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Have tried that.  I can uninstall IE8 security 
updates, but there is no option to uninstall the program itself.  




----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
Marilyn 
Drake 

To: or-roots mail list 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:57 
PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
crash's




I just had this problem at work the 
tech went into a site on the computer that lists the downloads updates and 
deleted IE8. We now use IE7.

 

If you go to control panel and find 
the windows update icon. Double click on it and you will see something that 
says view  update history. Click on it. It will list all the updates on 
your computer. That is where you can delete IE8.

 

Hope this helps

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 



From: 
linda 


To: or-roots mail list 


Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:50 
PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
crash's














It is 
virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet 
Explorer.  It is so entwined in the operating system
it is 
unbelievable.  Its like a persons central nervous 
system.

i sent three links to help with the problem of 
gunkware.
They are all free.  Malwarebytes (the 
first one) is absolutely 
amazing as far as cleaning up 
goes.
AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend 
getting both and running both even if you have another virus 
program.
The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the 
Firefox
browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run 
Malwarebytes and AVG.  
These will take some time to run 
(hours) but it may well be worth it. 

http://www.malwarebytes.org/





http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


linda








 






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Laura


 


No
success on Laura, but on Ida, we have:


 


Name:
Powell, Ida 


County:
Umatilla 


Death
Date: 28 Mar 1938 


Certificate:
82 


Spouse:
George


 


Ida,
Dorothy and George appear on the 1920 census of Linn County. Ida is divorced.


Dorothy
is 4 11/12, when the census was done on 3d and 5th January, 1920, which
gives her a DoB of about Feb 1915.


 


Unfortunately
the Oregon Death Index doesn?t have DoB?s much for deaths as early as the 1930?s.


 


And,
I don?t see any Oregon Marriages after 1920. 


 


If
you think she was married in Umatilla, you might write to the Court House there
and ask. Once you have a married name, you can go from there.  If she married
at age 16 or 17, she would surely have had parent(s) permission.


 


Pat


In
Tucson


 


Dorothy Mae Powell

Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 

I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother,
George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton,
OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what
happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle,
1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and
a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any
ideas????  Thanks,  Laura

 


 








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Dorothy M. Powell

So sorry, I seen that I didn't put the mom's full name> Ida Mckinley (Pugh) Powell.  Thanks again, Laura
 
From: or-roots-request at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:52:53 -0800

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:13:20 +0000
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Well I downloaded from Microsofts download site, enough said lets get back to genealogy.
If anyone is interested.
The Washington State Genealogy Societies annual conference is is Chehalis, Washington September 17-18 this year, they do not yet have the registration online, but will later.

The Oregon Heritage Conference is going to be regional conference's this year so if you are interested in that you can get the info from their website, both of these conferences you can get good info for genealogy.
Glen Jones Portland

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Yes! Always back up your data
, I back mine up to two different computers and to CD as well as 3 flash drives, and just bought a 1tb external hard drive to back up 3 computers.
Glen Jones Portland

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Dorothy Mae Powell

Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 

I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother, George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton, OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle, 1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any ideas????  Thanks,  Laura
 
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Sounds to me more like you were 'had' by a anti-malware virus. IE8 will not give you anything like you described. The anti-malware will and try to send you via a Trojan virus to a false program that will further harm your computer. I think I am fairly computer savvy and I was had by one of these last month. 

 Jack Ciaccia
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" 
(When all else fails, play dead)

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From: "Darlene Casteel" <darlene at thecasteels.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:38:42 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

? 











I don't know anything about a Virus Soft program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using Firefox.



 



Darlene



 







----- Original Message ----- 



From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 



To: or-roots mail list 



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM



Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's




When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's









Glen



I?ve had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No question of

virus checking programs (of course I already had one on the computer).  Maybe

there?s some other problem?  



Pat In Tucson



(73 degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)



 



 











From:

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[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's



My Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
virus program, and locks up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the internet.


Glen Jones Portland, Oregon




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Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.


















-----Original Message-----

From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>

To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


























If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 





 















From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM

To: or-roots mail list

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat







 










We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.











 











Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.















----- Original Message ----- 











From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 











To: or-roots mail list 











Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM











Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat











 











While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.





Glen Jones Portland







----- Original Message -----

From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>

To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the
leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go
along with the majority on this. 




 









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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:28 PM

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Y'know, Donna...this subject line
for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While
people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical
topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do
come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function
provided by your mail server is for.




 









-----Original Message-----

From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>

To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>

Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



















If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your
individuals not to the entire group. 











 





















From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM

To: or-roots mail list

Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat















 
















We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile
back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at
Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been
in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.


















 


















Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.























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From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 


















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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM


















Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


















 


















While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff
lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us
updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.











Glen Jones Portland







----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

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Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out
to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all
this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]
On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail
list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message
----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02,
2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:42:27 -0800
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How we gonna find out what individuals to talk to 
unless we say Its snowing and blowing n cold here on the high 
desert.



   Maybe the most of the groups enjoying 
a little life on the net too.



  Kinda like going to a pot luck and telling 
every one not to speak ;(



Dan M







----- Original Message ----- 



From: 
Donna Ward 




To: 'or-roots mail list' 




Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:23 
PM



Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat












If 
you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the 
entire group. 



 











From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of 
Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 
PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
chat



 







We did have a year's 
worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious 
winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically 
destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, 
and the tomato plants are happy again.







 







Darlene, snowbirding 
in Yuma.











----- Original 
Message ----- 







From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 








To: or-roots mail list 








Sent: Tuesday, 
February 02, 2010 1:19 PM







Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
chat







 





While 
Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of 
snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us 
updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the 
day.


Glen 
Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale 
Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: 
"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: 
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Pacific
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Sounds like Arizona to me and 
if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday 
so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale 
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: 
Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: 
[or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: 
Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 
AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 

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Not me. No way. I can get away from the PC and do other things most of the 
day while I wonder whats going on <G>



Dan M







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From: 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:33 
PM



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Hey listers - We're watching a show on PBS now about Internet 
addiction.  



Does that describe any of us?  (Tee hee)



Gerrie













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There was a Fred Dunn in Medford who was my step 
dads brother in Law.



Dan M







----- Original Message ----- 



From: 
Marsha 
Bradley-Luthy 



To: or-roots mail list 



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:45 
PM



Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A 
Barnett








I have a Joseph Barnet 
married      Mary Helen Leabo.  other husband 
Hiram Dunn







----- Original Message ----- 



From: 
Carol Peterson 



To: Oregon Genealogy List 




Cc: Carol Peterson 



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:30 
AM



Subject: [or-roots] Mary A 
Barnett








Hello all. 








I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park Pioneer 
Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her daughter, 
Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past Sunday. 
Here's the basic information on Mary:








Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)



Born March 4, 1831



Died July 8, 1908 in Portland








I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched online 
indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital 
Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 








Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your 
help.




Carol 
Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net
















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From: mygen2 at d-matney.com
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:50:00 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's

Yes AVG is good, while also still free how ever Trend Micro at 49 buks a 
year takes first place. And far superior. I use AVG cus I like my money<G> 
Trend and AVG treat mal ware, also be sure you download mozillia firefox and 
not just plain mozilla.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: linda
To: or-roots mail list
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's
 
 
AVG is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and 
running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.  i recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.
These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth it.
 
 
 


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That's pretty rude.






-----Original Message----- 
From: cklooster at aol.com 
Sent: Feb 3, 2010 2:28 AM 
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat 

Y'know, Donna...this subject line for this post is "chat"...that pretty much spells it out.  While people on this list are usually focused on Oregon historical/genealogical topics,  from time to time a few other "getting to know you" subjects do come up. Don't want to read them?  That's what the delete function provided by your mail server is for.











-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Ward <djrusty at verizon.net>
To: 'or-roots mail list' <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat





















If you want to talk about the weather please do it to your individuals not to the entire group. 



 











From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Darlene Casteel
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:31 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat



 







We did have a year's worth of rain in a couple of days awhile back, along with some furious winds.  At the same time, it snowed at Flagstaff.  Practically destroyed my tomato plants ..... !!  Has been in the low 70's since then, and the tomato plants are happy again.







 







Darlene, snowbirding in Yuma.











----- Original Message ----- 







From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net 







To: or-roots mail list 







Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:19 PM







Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat







 







While Arizona is Warm, they are having a lot of Rain and around Flagstaff lots of snow, My wife's step-brother is snowbirding at Parker Az. and keeps us updated, temp has only been in the 60's during the day.



Glen Jones Portland



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Harguess" <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 11:50:53 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Sounds like Arizona to me and if you like deserts, they got um. I?m heading out to Quartzsite on Thursday so won?t be around for a few days to catch up on all this good stuff. Dale From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:41 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat dry 68 to 72 Dan M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots mail list Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat What?s your definition of warm? 
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From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:40:38 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

Hey folks; Donna has a legitimate complaint. Layne gives us a lot of freedom to be "chatty" on here and only rarely rebukes us for our misbehaior, but Donna IS right this is a genealogy and history list and she has 
 
politely
 
asked us to return to that focus and while I enjoy the fact that we do not follow the rigid protocols that some lists adhere to, we still need to keep it civil and focused on the history and genealogy.
 
Les C
 
 
 
I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the leadership stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go along with the majority on this. 
 
 


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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:04:36 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's











I had to take my computer to a repair facility about a 
month ago, and they recommend both Malwarebytes & AVG.







----- Original Message ----- 



From: 
linda 




To: or-roots mail list 



Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:50 
PM



Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
crash's




























It is 
virtually impossible to uninstall IE 8 or any version of Internet 
Explorer.  It is so entwined in the operating system
it is 
unbelievable.  Its like a persons central nervous system.

i 
sent three links to help with the problem of 
gunkware.
They are all free.  Malwarebytes (the 
first one) is absolutely 
amazing as far as cleaning up goes.
AVG 
is the best virus protection possible. i recommend getting both and 
running both even if you have another virus program.
The 3rd link is 
to Mozilla where you can download the Firefox
browser.  i 
recommend you get Firefox after you run Malwarebytes and AVG.  

These will take some time to run (hours) but it may well be worth 
it. 

http://www.malwarebytes.org/









http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/


linda



--- 
On Tue, 2/2/10, Darlene Casteel 
<darlene at thecasteels.net> wrote:





From: 
Darlene Casteel <darlene at thecasteels.net>
Subject: Re: 
[or-roots] Computer crash's
To: "or-roots mail list" 
<or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Tuesday, February 
2, 2010, 5:38 PM





? 











I don't know anything about a Virus Soft 
program, but I have had computer hangups with IE8, and have tried 
unsuccessfully to uninstall it.  I'm now using 
Firefox.



 



Darlene



 







----- 
Original Message ----- 



From: 
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To: 
or-roots mail 
list 



Sent: 
Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:03 PM



Subject: 
Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's




When I downloaded IE8 the other night It came with a 
Program called Virus soft from Microsoft's download site, the Virus 
Soft program told me all my programs on my computer were infected 
with a trojan virus and wanted me to download their Virus Soft 
program, which installed with automatic updates, but to active I had 
to pay $60.00, I could not open any of my programs or even get into 
the internet, It would not let me uninstall it or remove it, as I 
said I had to do a full restore of my computer to get my computer 
back and I still to not have everything back to normal.
I sent an 
Email to microsoft and they will not even reply. 

----- Original Message 
-----
From: Kith-n-Kin 
To: 'or-roots mail list' 
Sent: 
Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
Computer crash's









Glen



I?ve 
had IE 8 on one of my computers for months. No problems yet. No 
question of

virus checking programs (of course I already had 
one on the computer).  Maybe

there?s 
some other problem?  



Pat 
In Tucson



(73 
degrees and holding, rain this evening ???)



 



 











From:

or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] 
On Behalf Of 
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, 
February 02, 2010 3:02 PM
To: or-roots mail 
list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer 
crash's



My 
Computer just crashed this morning, whatever you do, DO NOT upgrade 
to Internet Explorer 8, it has its own 
virus program, and locks 
up your computer until you download the program at  $60.00, I 
had to do a complete restore of my computer to git rid of it, it 
will not uninstall, or let you into any programs including the 
internet.


Glen Jones Portland, 
Oregon




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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Wed Feb  3 10:05:52 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:05:52 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 12
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Laura

 

No success on Laura, but on Ida, we have:

 

Name: Powell, Ida 

County: Umatilla 

Death Date: 28 Mar 1938 

Certificate: 82 

Spouse: George

 

Ida, Dorothy and George appear on the 1920 census of Linn County. Ida is divorced.

Dorothy is 4 11/12, when the census was done on 3d and 5th January, 1920, which gives her a DoB of about Feb 1915.

 

Unfortunately the Oregon Death Index doesn?t have DoB?s much for deaths as early as the 1930?s.

 

And, I don?t see any Oregon Marriages after 1920. 

 

If you think she was married in Umatilla, you might write to the Court House there and ask. Once you have a married name, you can go from there.  If she married at age 16 or 17, she would surely have had parent(s) permission. Or have gone over to Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 and needed to get married.  Washington didn?t have an age requirement at that time.

 

Pat

In Tucson

 

Dorothy Mae Powell
Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 
I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother, George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton, OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle, 1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any ideas????  Thanks,  Laura
 

 

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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Wed Feb  3 10:15:02 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:15:02 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell
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Or have gone over to Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 and needed to get married.  Washington didn?t have an age requirement at that time.
 
BINGO

I had the same notion;

Record Series:	Marriage Records
Collection:	Walla Walla Marriage Records   ?
County:	Walla Walla

Document No. :	eawwmr7923
Groom's Name:	Jim Herbert Petrie
Bride's Name:	Dorothy Lorene Powell
Marriage Date:	12/17/1932 12:00:00 AM
Filing Date:	 
County:	Walla Walla

http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/29A6A46E4AEC86D902D6469A87DCC4A3_1.jpg

IF  this link doesn't work go to;

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/

and type in dorothy powell and select marriages, 

It lists parents etc. and that is because she married in a time when details like that were included, the 1938 Spokane cert on same page just gives names.

Les




From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Wed Feb  3 10:23:58 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:23:58 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Mae Powell
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Laura,  So far I only found this on Dorothy Mae Powell's brother George William Powell @ Ancestry.com.       Nancy



U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 
about George W Powell 
            Name: George W Powell 
            Birth Year: 1916 
            Race: White, citizen (White) 
            Nativity State or Country: Oregon 
            State of Residence: Oregon 
            County or City: Umatilla 
             
            Enlistment Date: 19 May 1942 
            Enlistment State: Oregon 
            Enlistment City: Portland 
            Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA 
            Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA 
            Grade: Private 
            Grade Code: Private 
            Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law 
            Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men) 
            Source: Civil Life 
             
            Education: 4 years of high school 
            Civil Occupation: Bookkeepers and cashiers, except bank cashiers 
            Marital Status: Married 
            Height: 70 
            Weight: 132 
     

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 
about George William Powell 

            Name: Powell, George William 
            County: Umatilla 
            Death Date: 9 Jun 1995 
            Certificate: 95-12123 
            Age: 79 
            Birth Date: 17 May 1916 
     

Social Security Death Index 
about George W. Powell 
            Name: George W. Powell 
            SSN: 543-07-4484 
            Last Residence: 97801  Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon, United States of America 
            Born: 17 May 1916 
            Died: 9 Jun 1995 
            State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951) 
     

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 12


  Dorothy Mae Powell
  Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 
  I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother, George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton, OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle, 1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any ideas????  Thanks,  Laura
   
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Wed Feb  3 10:59:54 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:59:54 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>

Well with that information from Les, you can find her death certificate.

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Petrie, Dorothy
County:Umatilla
Death Date:4 May 1933
Certificate:113
Spouse:James

Possibly the spouse:

Oregon Historical Records Index Detail Information
Case#
NamePetrie, James
Date1898
Record TypeNaturalization
CountyWasco
SourceGenealogical

Then apparently he remarried:

Social Security Death Index
Name:James Petrie
SSN:540-36-7913
Last Residence:97801  Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon, United States of America
Born:25 Jan 1896
Died:6 Jul 1992
State (Year) SSN issued:Oregon (1951)



Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Petrie, James
County:Umatilla
Death Date:6 Jul 1992
Certificate:92-13244
Age:96
Birth Date:25 Jan 1896
Spouse:Cather


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell


Or have gone over to Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 and 
needed to get married.  Washington didn?t have an age requirement at that 
time. BINGO
I had the same notion;
Record Series: Marriage RecordsCollection: Walla Walla Marriage Records 
?County: Walla Walla
Document No. : eawwmr7923Groom's Name: Jim Herbert PetrieBride's Name: 
Dorothy Lorene PowellMarriage Date: 12/17/1932 12:00:00 AMFiling Date: 
County: Walla Walla
http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/29A6A46E4AEC86D902D6469A87DCC4A3_1.jpg
IF  this link doesn't work go to;
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/
and type in dorothy powell and select marriages,
It lists parents etc. and that is because she married in a time when details 
like that were included, the 1938 Spokane cert on same page just gives 
names.
Les 



From royblaine at msn.com  Wed Feb  3 11:14:46 2010
From: royblaine at msn.com (Roy Blaine)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:14:46 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
In-Reply-To: <AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>,
	<AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W110B821E01426727F667ACAC560@phx.gbl>


I have just discovered family connections to the communities of Lena, Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They neighbor each other on the back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can someone look them up and give me the short version on how each got its name?

 

Roy Blaine


 		 	   		  
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Wed Feb  3 11:19:01 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:19:01 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W110B821E01426727F667ACAC560@phx.gbl>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>,
	<AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>
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I am confused by your question.  My ancestors were from the Morrow
County, Hepner area.  The Ghost town of Hardman to be exact.  They have
a great website.

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Roy
Blaine
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:15 AM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]

 

I have just discovered family connections to the communities of Lena,
Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They neighbor each other on
the back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can someone look them up and
give me the short version on how each got its name?
 
Roy Blaine



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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Wed Feb  3 11:20:07 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:20:07 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Death certs. at the Archives
Message-ID: <10025.3f29c38b.389b2667@aol.com>

Lillian, you are quite correct. The county is  necessary to the research 
for death certificates. However the person did have  the county, date and 
cert. #. I was just noting how the certs were filed at the  archives as it is 
much easier to find them if you know they are by date rather  than by cert. #. 
In the end, she ordered the cert rather than going to the  Archives so the 
information was unnecessary to her, but perhaps useful to others  who might 
be doing their own research.
 
Thank you for noting the need for the  county.
 
Carroll (Cooper) Summers
 
When I was searching at the Archives in  Salem  for death certificates  I 
needed to know what   county  they were in.
 
Lillian
 
 
 
In a message dated 02/02/10 16:10:03 Pacific Standard Time, CARROLLOUC  
writes:

    
Just a wee tip - the death certificates are filed  by DATE, not by 
certificate #. However, it is helpful if you are requesting  a copy to give both 
date and cert. #.
 
Carroll (Cooper) Summers
 
 
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Barnett, Mary  Ann
County:Multnomah
Death Date:8 Jul 1908
Certificate:7401
 
By using the death certificate number you can  get a copy from the Oregon 
State Archives.
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Carol Peterson_ (mailto:58cjpeterson at comcast.net)  
To: _Oregon Genealogy  List_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)  
Cc: _Carol Peterson_ (mailto:58cjpeterson at comcast.net)  
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010  11:30 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A  Barnett


Hello  all.  


I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park  Pioneer 
Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to  her daughter, 
Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this  past Sunday. 
Here's the basic information on Mary:


Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
Born March 4, 1831
Died July 8, 1908 in Portland


I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched  online 
indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon  Vital 
Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your  help.

Carol  Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net




 
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Wed Feb  3 11:19:35 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:19:35 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <D0E09DBD06D54A77B4B35B197017C208@NancyPC>

Great job Les!!

Also this just below must be sister to Jim Herbert Petrie (same parents). 
Nancy
Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Viola Dorothy Petrie
            Name: Viola Dorothy Petrie
            Birth Date: 21 Jan 1919
            Location: Walla Walla
            Sex: Female
            Race: White
            Father's Name: James Petrie
            Mother's Name: Grace Olinger
            Image Filename: 4479



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell


> Or have gone over to Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 
> and needed to get married.  Washington didn?t have an age requirement at 
> that time.
>
> BINGO
>
> I had the same notion;
>
> Record Series: Marriage Records
> Collection: Walla Walla Marriage Records   ?
> County: Walla Walla
>
> Document No. : eawwmr7923
> Groom's Name: Jim Herbert Petrie
> Bride's Name: Dorothy Lorene Powell
> Marriage Date: 12/17/1932 12:00:00 AM
> Filing Date:
> County: Walla Walla
>
> http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/29A6A46E4AEC86D902D6469A87DCC4A3_1.jpg
>
> IF  this link doesn't work go to;
>
> http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/
>
> and type in dorothy powell and select marriages,
>
> It lists parents etc. and that is because she married in a time when 
> details like that were included, the 1938 Spokane cert on same page just 
> gives names.
>
> Les
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From royblaine at msn.com  Wed Feb  3 11:25:11 2010
From: royblaine at msn.com (Roy Blaine)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:25:11 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
In-Reply-To: <CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD857@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
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	<AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>,
	<BAY124-W110B821E01426727F667ACAC560@phx.gbl>,
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Message-ID: <BAY124-W6C595B5076543F45D1BC2AC560@phx.gbl>


I'm sorry.  I was hoping someone might have a quick answer on who the two communities were named after - which of the Vinsons was Vinson named after, and who was Lena.  I drive through the two communities, and I have relatives in both their cemeteries, I discovered this week, but I don't know the history of either community.

 

I should have been clearer.

Roy  


Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:19:01 -0800
From: dharguess at coastline.edu
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]





I am confused by your question.  My ancestors were from the Morrow County, Hepner area.  The Ghost town of Hardman to be exact.  They have a great website.
 


From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Roy Blaine
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:15 AM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
 
I have just discovered family connections to the communities of Lena, Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They neighbor each other on the back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can someone look them up and give me the short version on how each got its name?
 
Roy Blaine

 		 	   		  
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb  3 11:31:55 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:31:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Computer crash's
References: <1787059945.2225491265180039727.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <21518ECEF576488AA64601882F6F5146@AroundHome>

Well here is a link
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700
tells how to remove IE 8 and help with some problems.
  I wont go any higher than 7.
I was going to stay on 6 but just had to see what 7 was about <G>
I agree with Jack - you got an anomolie ;?)
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wm0g at comcast.net 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Computer crash's


  Sounds to me more like you were 'had' by a anti-malware virus. IE8 will not give you anything like you described. The anti-malware will and try to send you via a Trojan virus to a false program that will further harm your computer. I think I am fairly computer savvy and I was had by one of these last month. 

   Jack Ciaccia
  "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" 
  (When all else fails, play dead)
   
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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Wed Feb  3 11:37:40 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:37:40 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Barnett & Multnomah Park Cemetery
Message-ID: <10a0c.188475cd.389b2a84@aol.com>

That was a very quick return on the DC you were  looking for. I didn't know 
if you were doing the research yourself or not, so  threw in the tidbit re: 
their filing system. I have spent the last two years or  so copying Jackson 
Co. death certs for the Rogue Valley Genealogical Society  near Medford. 
Copied 1937 through 1956 before I had health problems that  required me to 
stop - just three years short of finishing. I received a lot of  insight into 
their filing system. The people there are so very helpful and  friendly and 
will drop everything to help someone. They are to be  commended. .
 
Thank you for the info on the Multnomah Park  Cemetery. I will make another 
try at  finding gr grandpas death cert. We have many relatives buried there 
and as  a child the family spent every Memorial Day taking loads of flowers 
to the  different gravesites, including gre grandpas (we knew where he was 
buried, just  not when). Many memories.
 
Thank you for your suggestions
 
Carroll (Cooper)  Summers
 
I emailed  what Sue gave me to the Archives Research email address. 
Received it back  within an hour with a $5.00 invoice! Not bad! I'm sure the 
process is  different if you want it certified.  


In a separate email I sent the url for Metro. There's a search box at the  
top right. Type in Pioneer Cemeteries or Multnomah Park and you'll get a new 
 search page. When you search by last name only, you'll receive applicable 
info  from all cemeteries, not just one. 


I just thought of this. While I was visiting the cemetery Sunday, a  
gentleman introduced himself as Eric Cordingley. He lives near the cemetery  and 
volunteers his time keeping records updated, looking for gravesites, etc.  He 
may be able to help with cemetery info as well.


"Friends Of Multnomah Park Cemetery"  <multnomahparkcemetery at gmail.com>
5120 SE 87th St.,  Portland, OR  97266
cecordingley at gmail.com

----- Original Message -----
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com
To:  or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 4:09:30  PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Mary A  Barnett

Just a wee tip - the death certificates are filed by  DATE, not by 
certificate #. However, it is helpful if you are requesting a  copy to give both 
date and cert. #.
 
Carroll (Cooper) Summers
 
 
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Barnett, Mary  Ann
County:Multnomah
Death Date:8 Jul 1908
Certificate:7401
 
By using the death certificate number you can  get a copy from the Oregon 
State Archives.
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Carol Peterson_ (mailto:58cjpeterson at comcast.net)   
To: _Oregon  Genealogy List_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)  
Cc: _Carol Peterson_ (mailto:58cjpeterson at comcast.net)   
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010  11:30 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Mary A  Barnett


Hello  all.  


I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park  Pioneer 
Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to her  daughter, 
Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this past  Sunday. 
Here's the basic information on Mary:


Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)
Born March 4, 1831
Died July 8, 1908 in Portland


I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched  online 
indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon Vital  
Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 


Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your  help.

Carol  Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net




 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb  3 11:39:42 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:39:42 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEIHCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <FADE62BC1E5C49B2B8D3E1D9336A2710@AroundHome>

I respect those things, but as it was mentioned, if a subject line says < 
chat> they can just skip it. There is not all that much sticky work stuff to 
keep people posting any how I did learn a lot of info during these chats and 
if it is a problem to chat here, I do have a list called ( Justchatting) <G> 
its dead ;( no one chats, I think its is partly because when there are so 
many people on one list they dont want to have to join another list just to 
chat, they want to meet and chat with those like here to learn more about 
the folks and the country land, weather, people and towns. So I made the 
chat subject line so as not to bother the ( facts ) folks while we got a 
little chatty, should have made us friendly, sorry to have got a miss guided 
missile going here.
   I will curb my chatty inquisitions and my modern pioneer experiences.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> Hey folks; Donna has a legitimate complaint. Layne gives us a lot of 
> freedom to be "chatty" on here and only rarely rebukes us for our 
> misbehaior, but Donna IS right this is a genealogy and history list and 
> she has
>
> politely
>
> asked us to return to that focus and while I enjoy the fact that we do not 
> follow the rigid protocols that some lists adhere to, we still need to 
> keep it civil and focused on the history and genealogy.
>
> Les C
>
>
>
> I still stand by my original request ? most sites I am on the leadership 
> stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go along 
> with the majority on this.
>
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb  3 11:42:23 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:42:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] > Powell>or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13
References: <mailman.19798.1265212373.32486.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
	<SNT130-w39B51E420969C6A5CB297AD2560@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ABCDDC25AD974E24BCB43269F7449B21@AroundHome>

I have a book on the History of Powell in the Portland area.
I will look up the ISBN so you can find it in the LIBRARY;)
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13


Dorothy M. Powell
So sorry, I seen that I didn't put the mom's full name> Ida Mckinley (Pugh) 
Powell.  Thanks again, Laura
 



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 11:51:28 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:51:28 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEHDCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
	<92EF7ED7853E44DB9E4F429D96A32B8C@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <161ADDE6CD3C4787B20FF8E09660CA11@AroundHome>

I have a list of all overland trails newspapers.
for now I am looking for the one road I found going over the Duncan area.
I will try to find out a better way to explain where it goes.

I turn off hwy 30 follow the dirt rd as going to Duncan res, along this road 
are the tracks of an old road that goes past Duncam res towards the ravine.
   Guess I will follow it this year.
I was just wondering if any one else has already got it done and has info on 
it.
Dan M 



From bethperryjohnston at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 12:01:14 2010
From: bethperryjohnston at gmail.com (Beth Perry Johnston)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:01:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
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According to MacArthur, Lena was mnamed by "J.S. Vinson and and C.E. Hinton,
local residents. It was understood that the name was selected because it had
a pleasing sound. . . . .Lena post office was established June 11, 1873,
with Hinton postmaster and closed August 31 1942."

Again from MacArthur: "Vinson was named for John Sackett Vinson, a pioneer
settler who once ran a store in the community. . . . A post office named
Butter Creek was established at this place on July 28, 1873, with J.S.
Vinson postmaster. The name of the office was changed to Vinson on September
15, 1881, and finally closed November 30, 1907."

Hope this helps.
Beth

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Roy Blaine <royblaine at msn.com> wrote:

>  I have just discovered family connections to the communities of Lena,
> Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They neighbor each other on the
> back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can someone look them up and give me
> the short version on how each got its name?
>
> Roy Blaine
>
>
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From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net  Wed Feb  3 12:36:05 2010
From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 20:36:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] History of Powell in the Portland area
In-Reply-To: <ABCDDC25AD974E24BCB43269F7449B21@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <201874011.2609301265229365686.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>



I would be interested in this book.? I have a family cemetery plot located at the Powell Pioneer Cemetery at 122nd and Sandy Blvd.? Would be interested in knowing how this cemetery was created and what? the requirements to obtain a family plot were. 



Eugene Melvin 


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To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:42:23 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] > Powell>or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13 

I have a book on the History of Powell in the Portland area. I will look up the ISBN so you can find it in the LIBRARY;) 


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From vkassing at mywdo.com  Wed Feb  3 12:58:43 2010
From: vkassing at mywdo.com (ViolaRae)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:58:43 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] chat
In-Reply-To: <FADE62BC1E5C49B2B8D3E1D9336A2710@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <78D3F4E976B14D32A325FADD4A2DD484@FTQ2>

I like the 'chat'. Surprisingly I have located very valuable information
from the 'chatting'.  Many times "Just the facts . . ." doesn't tell the
entire story and you are missing the little tidbit that clears up the
puzzle! And I like hearing from friends that have been online since the
mid-nineties and are now working genealogy back east or overseas.  It let's
us know how they are doing and sometimes they are able to clear up a puzzle!
KEEP THE CHATTING COMING! It brightens my day.

Viola Rae 

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:40 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat

I respect those things, but as it was mentioned, if a subject line says < 
chat> they can just skip it. There is not all that much sticky work stuff to

keep people posting any how I did learn a lot of info during these chats and

if it is a problem to chat here, I do have a list called ( Justchatting) <G>

its dead ;( no one chats, I think its is partly because when there are so 
many people on one list they dont want to have to join another list just to 
chat, they want to meet and chat with those like here to learn more about 
the folks and the country land, weather, people and towns. So I made the 
chat subject line so as not to bother the ( facts ) folks while we got a 
little chatty, should have made us friendly, sorry to have got a miss guided

missile going here.
   I will curb my chatty inquisitions and my modern pioneer experiences.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] chat


> Hey folks; Donna has a legitimate complaint. Layne gives us a lot of 
> freedom to be "chatty" on here and only rarely rebukes us for our 
> misbehaior, but Donna IS right this is a genealogy and history list and 
> she has
>
> politely
>
> asked us to return to that focus and while I enjoy the fact that we do not

> follow the rigid protocols that some lists adhere to, we still need to 
> keep it civil and focused on the history and genealogy.
>
> Les C
>
>
>
> I still stand by my original request - most sites I am on the leadership 
> stops when the off talk gets to  lengthy.  I will be happy to go along 
> with the majority on this.
>
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From royblaine at msn.com  Wed Feb  3 13:43:38 2010
From: royblaine at msn.com (Roy Blaine)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:43:38 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
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References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>,
	, , <AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>, ,
	<BAY124-W110B821E01426727F667ACAC560@phx.gbl>, ,
	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD857@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>,
	<BAY124-W6C595B5076543F45D1BC2AC560@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W29470610F6457C943F62EAAC560@phx.gbl>



By the way, I did go on the Morrow County History website that talks about George Vinson settling on Butter Creek in 1852, which would explain why James S. Vinson and family moved from Clackamas to Cayuse in the 1860's and then to Lena by the 1880 census.  But the website does not make clear if the community was named after George or whom.

 

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From royblaine at msn.com  Wed Feb  3 13:48:36 2010
From: royblaine at msn.com (Roy Blaine)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:48:36 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
In-Reply-To: <a39333091002031201h3941a0f5ofbcddb841e4868f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>,
	<AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>,
	<BAY124-W110B821E01426727F667ACAC560@phx.gbl>,
	<a39333091002031201h3941a0f5ofbcddb841e4868f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W370C2CBD220BBCE3A84DC0AC560@phx.gbl>


Thank you Beth. That was exactly what I needed.

Roy  


Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:01:14 -0800
From: bethperryjohnston at gmail.com
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]

According to MacArthur, Lena was mnamed by "J.S. Vinson and and C.E. Hinton, local residents. It was understood that the name was selected because it had a pleasing sound. . . . .Lena post office was established June 11, 1873, with Hinton postmaster and closed August 31 1942."

Again from MacArthur: "Vinson was named for John Sackett Vinson, a pioneer settler who once ran a store in the community. . . . A post office named Butter Creek was established at this place on July 28, 1873, with J.S. Vinson postmaster. The name of the office was changed to Vinson on September 15, 1881, and finally closed November 30, 1907."

Hope this helps.
Beth


On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Roy Blaine <royblaine at msn.com> wrote:


I have just discovered family connections to the communities of Lena, Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They neighbor each other on the back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can someone look them up and give me the short version on how each got its name?
 
Roy Blaine



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From bethperryjohnston at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 13:54:25 2010
From: bethperryjohnston at gmail.com (Beth Perry Johnston)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:54:25 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W370C2CBD220BBCE3A84DC0AC560@phx.gbl>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
	<AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>
	<BAY124-W110B821E01426727F667ACAC560@phx.gbl>
	<a39333091002031201h3941a0f5ofbcddb841e4868f2@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <a39333091002031354y7aaa9730s925a7a417827fdd2@mail.gmail.com>

You're more than welcome. Some day I may be calling on you!

Beth

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Roy Blaine <royblaine at msn.com> wrote:

>  Thank you Beth. That was exactly what I needed.
>
> Roy
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:01:14 -0800
> From: bethperryjohnston at gmail.com
>
> To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
>
> According to MacArthur, Lena was mnamed by "J.S. Vinson and and C.E.
> Hinton,
>

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From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us  Wed Feb  3 14:14:25 2010
From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (Layne G SAWYER)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:14:25 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W29470610F6457C943F62EAAC560@phx.gbl>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEIKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>, ,
	, <AA3C4E6030C64E1BAD4428E5F92F8ED1@suesteward>, ,
	<BAY124-W110B821E01426727F667ACAC560@phx.gbl>, ,
	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD857@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>,
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Message-ID: <4B6984C0.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>

Roy,

George Vinson is represented in the Early Oregonians database

 https://secure.sos.state.or.us/prs/personProfileSearch.do?earlyOregonian=true&searchReset=true. 

 If you have any additional information that you would like to share, please feel free to send it along to:

 Early.Oregonians at state.or.us 


Regards,

Layne Sawyer
Oregon State Archives
>>> Roy Blaine <royblaine at msn.com> 2/3/2010 1:43 PM >>>


By the way, I did go on the Morrow County History website that talks about George Vinson settling on Butter Creek in 1852, which would explain why James S. Vinson and family moved from Clackamas to Cayuse in the 1860's and then to Lena by the 1880 census.  But the website does not make clear if the community was named after George or whom.

 

Roy Blaine

 		 	   		  



From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us  Wed Feb  3 14:23:36 2010
From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (Layne G SAWYER)
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:23:36 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts
Message-ID: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>

Dear OR-rooters,

I have been contacted by a few subscribers asking me to intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  I can see folks have already begun to re-focus but please be mindful of how chatty we get as for some folks who receive the list in digest form this can be particularly irksome. They must scroll through a great deal before they hit upon the more germane postings.

Thanks again for your cooperation.

Regards,

Layne Sawyer
list mom
Oregon State Archives  



From ssteward at ccountry.net  Wed Feb  3 15:03:23 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:03:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw:  Dorothy Powell
Message-ID: <EF34FBE8D97740EF9AEA1BCDEC8F15A6@suesteward>

Oops, I should have looked closer to the info on the marriage license.  The 
info about James Petrie that I supplied must have been the father-in-law and 
not the spouse.

Sue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell


Oregon Historical Records Index Detail Information
Case#
NamePetrie, James
Date1898
Record TypeNaturalization
CountyWasco
SourceGenealogical

Then apparently he remarried:

Social Security Death Index
Name:James Petrie
SSN:540-36-7913
Last Residence:97801  Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon, United States of America
Born:25 Jan 1896
Died:6 Jul 1992
State (Year) SSN issued:Oregon (1951)



Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Petrie, James
County:Umatilla
Death Date:6 Jul 1992
Certificate:92-13244
Age:96
Birth Date:25 Jan 1896
Spouse:Cather




From birdman_326 at msn.com  Wed Feb  3 15:14:17 2010
From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 23:14:17 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16
In-Reply-To: <mailman.20027.1265224786.32486.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
References: <mailman.20027.1265224786.32486.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <SNT130-w30281937C4264D273C0B2DD2560@phx.gbl>


Dorothy Lorene Powell

Thank you, so much for your help!!!!  I called a second cousin, to confirm the groom's name, and he said that was right.  As he's abit older, have to juggle the memory abit.  Me, I can't use that excuse, but I'll try.  I went to WA. archives and found that 10 Feb. 1934, this groom marries again.  I still have to get ahold of the right dept. to confirm the passing of Dorothy, but you have gotten me alot closer!!!  I thank you again for your help,  Laura
 
From: or-roots-request at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:19:46 -0800

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--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: dharguess at coastline.edu
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:05:52 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 12




















 


Laura


 


No
success on Laura, but on Ida, we have:


 


Name:
Powell, Ida 


County:
Umatilla 


Death
Date: 28 Mar 1938 


Certificate:
82 


Spouse:
George


 


Ida,
Dorothy and George appear on the 1920 census of Linn County. Ida is divorced.


Dorothy
is 4 11/12, when the census was done on 3d and 5th January, 1920,
which gives her a DoB of about Feb 1915.


 


Unfortunately
the Oregon Death Index doesn?t have DoB?s much for deaths as early as the
1930?s.


 


And,
I don?t see any Oregon Marriages after 1920. 


 


If
you think she was married in Umatilla, you might write to the Court House there
and ask. Once you have a married name, you can go from there.  If she
married at age 16 or 17, she would surely have had parent(s) permission. Or have gone over to
Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 and needed to get married. 
Washington didn?t have an age requirement at that time.


 


Pat


In
Tucson


 


Dorothy Mae Powell

Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't seen it come up. 

I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, Ida Mckinley, brother,
George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 census for Pendleton,
OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  I can't find what
happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, the uncle,
1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla co., site, and
a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 1933. Any ideas???? 
Thanks,  Laura

 


 








--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:15:02 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell

Or have gone over to Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 and needed to get married.  Washington didn?t have an age requirement at that time.
 
BINGO
 
I had the same notion;
 
Record Series:	Marriage Records
Collection:	Walla Walla Marriage Records   ?
County:	Walla Walla
 
Document No. :	eawwmr7923
Groom's Name:	Jim Herbert Petrie
Bride's Name:	Dorothy Lorene Powell
Marriage Date:	12/17/1932 12:00:00 AM
Filing Date:	 
County:	Walla Walla
 
http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/29A6A46E4AEC86D902D6469A87DCC4A3_1.jpg
 
IF  this link doesn't work go to;
 
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/
 
and type in dorothy powell and select marriages, 
 
It lists parents etc. and that is because she married in a time when details like that were included, the 1938 Spokane cert on same page just gives names.
 
Les
 
 
 


--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:23:58 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Dorothy Mae Powell













Laura,  So 
far I only found this on Dorothy Mae Powell's brother George William Powell @ 
Ancestry.com.       Nancy

 



 









U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 
1938-1946 
about George W Powell 


















Name:

George W Powell



Birth Year:

1916



Race:

White, citizen (White)



Nativity State or Country:

Oregon



State of Residence:

Oregon



County or City:

Umatilla





 



Enlistment Date:

19 May 1942



Enlistment State:

Oregon



Enlistment City:

Portland



Branch:

Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, 
USA



Branch Code:

Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, 
USA



Grade:

Private



Grade Code:

Private



Term of Enlistment:

Enlistment for the duration of the War or other 
emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the 
President or otherwise according to law



Component:

Selectees (Enlisted Men)



Source:

Civil Life





 



Education:

4 years of high school



Civil Occupation:

Bookkeepers and cashiers, except bank 
cashiers



Marital Status:

Married



Height:

70



Weight:

132

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 

about George William Powell 



















Name:

Powell, George 
William



County:

Umatilla



Death Date:

9 Jun 1995



Certificate:

95-12123



Age:

79



Birth Date:

17 May 
1916

Social Security Death Index 

about George W. Powell 

















Name:

George W. Powell



SSN:

543-07-4484



Last Residence:

97801  Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon, 
United States of America



Born:

17 May 1916



Died:

9 Jun 1995



State (Year) SSN issued:



Oregon (Before 
1951)



----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
JOHN LAURA 
MCKINNEY 

To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 


Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:58 
AM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, 
Vol 34, Issue 12


Dorothy Mae Powell
Hi, I posted a few days ago, but haven't 
seen it come up. 
I'm trying to track this lady.  I had her, her mom, 
Ida Mckinley, brother, George William, and an uncle, Walter Pugh on the 1930 
census for Pendleton, OR.  I believe the dad was George b. Powell.  
I can't find what happened to dorothy.  The mom d. 1938, brother, 1995, 
the uncle, 1955.  I've been on the OR. archives, the LDS, the Umatilla 
co., site, and a bunch more.  I think she married, and died in 
1933. Any ideas????  Thanks,  
Laura
 


--Forwarded Message Attachment--
From: ssteward at ccountry.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:59:54 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell

Well with that information from Les, you can find her death certificate.
 
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Petrie, Dorothy
County:Umatilla
Death Date:4 May 1933
Certificate:113
Spouse:James
 
Possibly the spouse:
 
Oregon Historical Records Index Detail Information
Case#
NamePetrie, James
Date1898
Record TypeNaturalization
CountyWasco
SourceGenealogical
 
Then apparently he remarried:
 
Social Security Death Index
Name:James Petrie
SSN:540-36-7913
Last Residence:97801  Pendleton, Umatilla, Oregon, United States of America
Born:25 Jan 1896
Died:6 Jul 1992
State (Year) SSN issued:Oregon (1951)
 
 
 
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Petrie, James
County:Umatilla
Death Date:6 Jul 1992
Certificate:92-13244
Age:96
Birth Date:25 Jan 1896
Spouse:Cather
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell
 
 
Or have gone over to Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 and 
needed to get married.  Washington didn?t have an age requirement at that 
time. BINGO
I had the same notion;
Record Series: Marriage RecordsCollection: Walla Walla Marriage Records 
?County: Walla Walla
Document No. : eawwmr7923Groom's Name: Jim Herbert PetrieBride's Name: 
Dorothy Lorene PowellMarriage Date: 12/17/1932 12:00:00 AMFiling Date: 
County: Walla Walla
http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/29A6A46E4AEC86D902D6469A87DCC4A3_1.jpg
IF  this link doesn't work go to;
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/
and type in dorothy powell and select marriages,
It lists parents etc. and that is because she married in a time when details 
like that were included, the 1938 Spokane cert on same page just gives 
names.
Les 
 
 


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From: royblaine at msn.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:14:46 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]










I have just discovered family connections to the communities of Lena, Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They neighbor each other on the back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can someone look them up and give me the short version on how each got its name?

 

Roy Blaine





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From: dharguess at coastline.edu
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:19:01 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]




















I am confused by your question.  My ancestors were from the
Morrow County, Hepner area.  The Ghost town of Hardman to be exact.  They have
a great website.


 








From:
or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Roy
Blaine

Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:15 AM

To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us

Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]






 


I have just discovered family connections
to the communities of Lena, Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They
neighbor each other on the back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can
someone look them up and give me the short version on how each got its name?

 

Roy Blaine












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From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:20:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Death certs. at the Archives









Lillian, you are quite correct. The county is 
necessary to the research for death certificates. However the person did have 
the county, date and cert. #. I was just noting how the certs were filed at the 
archives as it is much easier to find them if you know they are by date rather 
than by cert. #. In the end, she ordered the cert rather than going to the 
Archives so the information was unnecessary to her, but perhaps useful to others 
who might be doing their own research.

 

Thank you for noting the need for the 
county.

 

Carroll (Cooper) Summers





When I was searching at the Archives in 
Salem  for death certificates  I needed to know what  
county  they were in.

 

Lillian

 

 

 

In a message dated 02/02/10 16:10:03 Pacific Standard Time, CARROLLOUC 
writes:










Just a wee tip - the death certificates are filed 
by DATE, not by certificate #. However, it is helpful if you are requesting 
a copy to give both date and cert. #.

 

Carroll (Cooper) Summers

 





Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
Name:Barnett, Mary 
Ann
County:Multnomah
Death Date:8 Jul 1908
Certificate:7401

 

By using the death certificate number you can 
get a copy from the Oregon State Archives.

 



----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
Carol Peterson 

To: Oregon Genealogy 
List 

Cc: Carol Peterson 

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 
11:30 AM

Subject: [or-roots] Mary A 
Barnett




Hello 
all. 




I have a gr.gr.gr. grandmother who is buried at Multnomah Park 
Pioneer Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Mary is buried in a plot next to 
her daughter, Isabelle Jane Boyd. My father and I visited the grave this 
past Sunday. Here's the basic information on Mary:




Mary A (Ann)  Barnett (maiden name Carr)

Born March 4, 1831

Died July 8, 1908 in Portland




I am having difficulty finding her death certificate. I searched 
online indexes at the following to no avail: Oregon Archives, Oregon 
Vital Records/Death Index, Genealogical Forum. 




Are you able to find anything? Thank you in advance for your 
help.


Carol 
Peterson

58cjpeterson at comcast.net











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From: nancydean at columbia-center.org
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:19:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell

Great job Les!!
 
Also this just below must be sister to Jim Herbert Petrie (same parents). 
Nancy
Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Viola Dorothy Petrie
            Name: Viola Dorothy Petrie
            Birth Date: 21 Jan 1919
            Location: Walla Walla
            Sex: Female
            Race: White
            Father's Name: James Petrie
            Mother's Name: Grace Olinger
            Image Filename: 4479
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:15 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Dorothy Powell
 
 
> Or have gone over to Walla Walla like my grandmother did when she was 13 
> and needed to get married.  Washington didn?t have an age requirement at 
> that time.
>
> BINGO
>
> I had the same notion;
>
> Record Series: Marriage Records
> Collection: Walla Walla Marriage Records   ?
> County: Walla Walla
>
> Document No. : eawwmr7923
> Groom's Name: Jim Herbert Petrie
> Bride's Name: Dorothy Lorene Powell
> Marriage Date: 12/17/1932 12:00:00 AM
> Filing Date:
> County: Walla Walla
>
> http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/29A6A46E4AEC86D902D6469A87DCC4A3_1.jpg
>
> IF  this link doesn't work go to;
>
> http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/
>
> and type in dorothy powell and select marriages,
>
> It lists parents etc. and that is because she married in a time when 
> details like that were included, the 1938 Spokane cert on same page just 
> gives names.
>
> Les
>
>
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From: royblaine at msn.com
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:25:11 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]










I'm sorry.  I was hoping someone might have a quick answer on who the two communities were named after - which of the Vinsons was Vinson named after, and who was Lena.  I drive through the two communities, and I have relatives in both their cemeteries, I discovered this week, but I don't know the history of either community.

 

I should have been clearer.

Roy  




Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:19:01 -0800
From: dharguess at coastline.edu
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]









I am confused by your question.  My ancestors were from the Morrow County, Hepner area.  The Ghost town of Hardman to be exact.  They have a great website.

 





From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Roy Blaine
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:15 AM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots] New Subject! Place Names :-]

 

I have just discovered family connections to the communities of Lena, Morrow County and Vinson, Umatilla County.  They neighbor each other on the back road from Heppner to Highway 395.  Can someone look them up and give me the short version on how each got its name?
 
Roy Blaine


 		 	   		  
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Wed Feb  3 16:08:19 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:08:19 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] new subject
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Is there anyone on this list who might be an expert on finding early divorces?  My grandmother got married the first time in about 1914 in Walla Walla Washington, although she was living in Weston, Oregon at the time.  Later she supposedly married my grandfather but I have never found a marriage record.  She did, however, divorce him and I do have those divorce papers.  In them she gives her marriage date to him as the same date that she married her first husband but gives the place as Portland.  I know that she was in Portland in 1918 because I found her living with her first husband?s brother in the City directory.  Her first husband married two more times with his second wife dying and being buried in the Old Pioneer cemetery in Portland.  I have never been able to find a marriage record for her second husband or a divorce from her first.  I kind of think he must have divorced her or they would have both been bigamists.

She was living in Aberdeen Washington with her son by the first marriage and my mother and her ?second? husband.

Her name was Versey Venus Howell and her first husband?s name was Noah Hardwick.  The brother she was living with in Portland?s name was Jesse Hardwick.  My grandfather?s name (at least I think he was) was Thomas Seldon Flynn.

Any help with this is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dale 

P.S. she went by an alias of Jean.

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From lschiendel at aol.com  Wed Feb  3 16:30:29 2010
From: lschiendel at aol.com (lschiendel)
Date: Wed,  3 Feb 2010 16:30:29 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] new subject
In-Reply-To: <CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD943@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
References: <370703572.2210731265159491110.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<583016500.2211511265159613397.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
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Message-ID: <b5332008.8ddc.499b.b380.9c802637daa1@aol.com>

Hi,
Are you aware of the fairly new site in Washington State?    Go to Google put in   Washington State Digital index.  A site will come up where you put in the names of persons you are searching.

Good luck,
Lillian



In a message dated 02/03/10 16:08:33 Pacific Standard Time, dharguess at coastline.edu writes:
Is there anyone on this list who might be an expert on finding early divorces?  My grandmother got married the first time in about 1914 in Walla Walla Washington, although she was living in Weston, Oregon at the time.  Later she supposedly married my grandfather but I have never found a marriage record.  She did, however, divorce him and I do have those divorce papers.  In them she gives her marriage date to him as the same date that she married her first husband but gives the place as Portland.  I know that she was in Portland in 1918 because I found her living with her first husband?s brother in the City directory.  Her first husband married two more times with his second wife dying and being buried in the Old Pioneer cemetery in Portland.  I have never been able to find a marriage record for her second husband or a divorce from her first.  I kind of think he must have divorced her or they would have both been bigamists.
She was living in Aberdeen Washington with her son by the first marriage and my mother and her ?second? husband.
Her name was Versey Venus Howell and her first husband?s name was Noah Hardwick.  The brother she was living with in Portland?s name was Jesse Hardwick.  My grandfather?s name (at least I think he was) was Thomas Seldon Flynn.
Any help with this is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dale 
P.S. she went by an alias of Jean.
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Wed Feb  3 16:35:21 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:35:21 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] new subject
In-Reply-To: <b5332008.8ddc.499b.b380.9c802637daa1@aol.com>
References: <370703572.2210731265159491110.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<583016500.2211511265159613397.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>,
	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD943@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
	<b5332008.8ddc.499b.b380.9c802637daa1@aol.com>
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Yes, I have used that for quite some time.  It really isn?t very new.  That is where I found the three marriages for Noah Hardwick.

Thank you.

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of lschiendel
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:30 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] new subject

 

Hi,

Are you aware of the fairly new site in Washington State?    Go to Google put in   Washington State Digital index.  A site will come up where you put in the names of persons you are searching.

 

Good luck,

Lillian

 

 

 

In a message dated 02/03/10 16:08:33 Pacific Standard Time, dharguess at coastline.edu writes:

	Is there anyone on this list who might be an expert on finding early divorces?  My grandmother got married the first time in about 1914 in Walla Walla Washington, although she was living in Weston, Oregon at the time.  Later she supposedly married my grandfather but I have never found a marriage record.  She did, however, divorce him and I do have those divorce papers.  In them she gives her marriage date to him as the same date that she married her first husband but gives the place as Portland.  I know that she was in Portland in 1918 because I found her living with her first husband?s brother in the City directory.  Her first husband married two more times with his second wife dying and being buried in the Old Pioneer cemetery in Portland.  I have never been able to find a marriage record for her second husband or a divorce from her first.  I kind of think he must have divorced her or they would have both been bigamists.

	She was living in Aberdeen Washington with her son by the first marriage and my mother and her ?second? husband.

	Her name was Versey Venus Howell and her first husband?s name was Noah Hardwick.  The brother she was living with in Portland?s name was Jesse Hardwick.  My grandfather?s name (at least I think he was) was Thomas Seldon Flynn.

	Any help with this is greatly appreciated.

	Thanks,

	Dale 

	P.S. she went by an alias of Jean.

 

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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  3 16:47:12 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:47:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] divorces
In-Reply-To: <CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3086DD943@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
References: <370703572.2210731265159491110.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <362855.85303.qm@web112406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Dale-

I recently discovered that just like there are marriage indexes in the State archives, there are also divorce indexes. They are a statewide database sorted by last name of the male, group in about 5 year sets. So within a census period you should be able to find it on the microfilm for one five year period or the other. Don't know if Washington has the same type of list or not. The Coos Bay library has three of these microfilms in house, 45-50, 50-55 and 60-65 if I remember correctly. But you can probably request the film through the normal microfilm channels.

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)


      
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Wed Feb  3 16:49:28 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:49:28 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] divorces
In-Reply-To: <362855.85303.qm@web112406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Thank you.

 

Hi Dale-

I recently discovered that just like there are marriage indexes in the
State archives, there are also divorce indexes. They are a statewide
database sorted by last name of the male, group in about 5 year sets. So
within a census period you should be able to find it on the microfilm
for one five year period or the other. Don't know if Washington has the
same type of list or not. The Coos Bay library has three of these
microfilms in house, 45-50, 50-55 and 60-65 if I remember correctly. But
you can probably request the film through the normal microfilm channels.

 

Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com
<http://genealogytrails.com/ore/coos>  (Coos & Curry Counties)

Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/in/rgreenlund> Facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/rgreenlund> Yahoo Answers
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From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com  Wed Feb  3 16:50:05 2010
From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:50:05 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts
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Thank you very much, Layne.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Layne G SAWYER <layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us>
>Sent: Feb 3, 2010 2:23 PM
>To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>Subject: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts
>
>Dear OR-rooters,
>
>I have been contacted by a few subscribers asking me to intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  I can see folks have already begun to re-focus but please be mindful of how chatty we get as for some folks who receive the list in digest form this can be particularly irksome. They must scroll through a great deal before they hit upon the more germane postings.
>
>Thanks again for your cooperation.
>
>Regards,
>
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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Wed Feb  3 17:39:21 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:39:21 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] wagon roads
In-Reply-To: <161ADDE6CD3C4787B20FF8E09660CA11@AroundHome>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEHDCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><92EF7ED7853E44DB9E4F429D96A32B8C@AroundHome>
	<161ADDE6CD3C4787B20FF8E09660CA11@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <B29BEC8B2EC044CEACE62B4801ECAEB6@DianePC>

Think you are talking about hwy 31 not 30.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] wagon roads


>I have a list of all overland trails newspapers.
> for now I am looking for the one road I found going over the Duncan area.
> I will try to find out a better way to explain where it goes.
>
> I turn off hwy 30 follow the dirt rd as going to Duncan res, along this 
> road are the tracks of an old road that goes past Duncam res towards the 
> ravine.
>   Guess I will follow it this year.
> I was just wondering if any one else has already got it done and has info 
> on it.
> Dan M
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From viuhkola at clatskanie.com  Wed Feb  3 17:48:03 2010
From: viuhkola at clatskanie.com (viuhkola)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:48:03 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] new subject
References: <370703572.2210731265159491110.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><583016500.2211511265159613397.JavaMail.root@sz0024a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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      Search Results For: Marriage Records 3 Matches 
      Groom Last Name Groom First Name Bride Last Name Bride First Name Recording Year Marriage Year County Image 
            
      Hardwick Noah F Canutt Bessie M 1938 1938 Skamania  
      Hardwick Noah F Howell Venus V   1913 Walla Walla  
      Hardwick Noah F Morehouse Edith B   1920 Clark  
        

  From the Washington State Digital Archives
  http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/default.aspx
  You can dowload the marriage record
  But you may have this.
  Carylon

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Harguess, Dale 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:08 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] new subject


  Is there anyone on this list who might be an expert on finding early divorces?  My grandmother got married the first time in about 1914 in Walla Walla Washington, although she was living in Weston, Oregon at the time.  Later she supposedly married my grandfather but I have never found a marriage record.  She did, however, divorce him and I do have those divorce papers.  In them she gives her marriage date to him as the same date that she married her first husband but gives the place as Portland.  I know that she was in Portland in 1918 because I found her living with her first husband?s brother in the City directory.  Her first husband married two more times with his second wife dying and being buried in the Old Pioneer cemetery in Portland.  I have never been able to find a marriage record for her second husband or a divorce from her first.  I kind of think he must have divorced her or they would have both been bigamists.

  She was living in Aberdeen Washington with her son by the first marriage and my mother and her ?second? husband.

  Her name was Versey Venus Howell and her first husband?s name was Noah Hardwick.  The brother she was living with in Portland?s name was Jesse Hardwick.  My grandfather?s name (at least I think he was) was Thomas Seldon Flynn.

  Any help with this is greatly appreciated.

  Thanks,

  Dale 

  P.S. she went by an alias of Jean.



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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb  3 19:42:34 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 19:42:34 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEIHCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
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this be my last post off topic.
I applogize for getting the group off topics.
I run 76 groups my self so I should have known better.
If any one has any thing to my previous posts please feel free to write in 
private.
mygenrw2 at gmail.com

I am curious about so many Oregon places I am focussed on Duncan res for now 
and my place.

Then in the genealogy values I am focussed on any thing about Walter J 
Matney 1873 and prior and Julia Ann Cooper>Matney>Rowe> maybe back to Matney 
or ?

Again, sorry about the chatting and wont do that any more.
Back to just the facts mam`

`ol Dusty Dan . 



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Thu Feb  4 02:01:20 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:01:20 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts - chat
In-Reply-To: <13064897.1265244605764.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <13064897.1265244605764.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4B6A9AF0.8040200@earthlink.net>

Until we strayed to religion and weather, there really was some good 
information in that thread.

Thanks, all!

Bill Strickland


From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb  4 11:32:54 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:32:54 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] chat, religion & the weather
Message-ID: <507184B9E68F496CB3B01DCA83E36026@NancyPC>

Oh nooo, nobody has posted today day so far (almost noon), will I haven't received any.  Hearing about chat, religion & the weather doesn't seem so bad after all. I miss the posts that were coming one after the other, my biG mouth didn't help about the religion, sorry all.. I pray we haven't come to a dead stop again.

Nancy

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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Thu Feb  4 15:09:47 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:09:47 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer
In-Reply-To: <507184B9E68F496CB3B01DCA83E36026@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEOEJCCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Nancy; I think everyone has mostly wandered into their non Oregon stuff and
the fact we chatted enough to upset some folks didn't really inhibit, we
just all got to that point where we needed to consolidate our gains.

I have a question; can anyone find out if there was an obituary published
for Ennis Keizer?

I found his death notice in the Coos Bay paper The World stating he died on
20 December 1998, but couldn't find an obit all the way into January. I
would have thought his death would have been significant enough for a front
page item, but found nothing. The obits are paid items and some of my family
is notorious for being cheap, so maybe the Keizers didn't feel the need.

Les C

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Nancy Lee
Adams
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:33 AM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots] chat, religion & the weather


  Oh nooo, nobody has posted today day so far (almost noon), will I haven't
received any.  Hearing about chat, religion & the weather doesn't seem so
bad after all. I miss the posts that were coming one after the other, my biG
mouth didn't help about the religion, sorry all.. I pray we haven't come to
a dead stop again.

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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb  4 18:37:56 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 18:37:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEOEJCCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEOEJCCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <898376B3F63F414188154C89B1C091BC@NancyPC>

Les, Index to Obituaries, I you think you seen this already, but I don't know where to go from there?

1998 Index to Obituaries
BRENIMAN JR, Clifton R; 78; Fort Collins CO>Coos Bay OR; 1998-3-19. BREWER, James M; 95; ..... KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30 ...
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm - Cached - Similar
KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30 


Brown corpus - The University of Arizona, Tucson Arizona
In reply, Deputy Police Commissioner Howard R. Leary said that the city spends more ...... Roy Webster, of Hood River, and Dr. Ennis Keizer, of North Bend, ...
dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~hammond/ling696f-sp03/browncorpus.txt - Similar
Board oks pact the commission, meeting for the first time with both of its newly-appointed commissioners, Roy Webster, of Hood River, and Dr. Ennis Keizer, of North Bend, approved a year's contract for a consultant in the data processing department who has been the center of considerable controversy in the past.

Nancy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Leslie Chapman 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:09 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer


  Nancy; I think everyone has mostly wandered into their non Oregon stuff and the fact we chatted enough to upset some folks didn't really inhibit, we just all got to that point where we needed to consolidate our gains. 

  I have a question; can anyone find out if there was an obituary published for Ennis Keizer?

  I found his death notice in the Coos Bay paper The World stating he died on 20 December 1998, but couldn't find an obit all the way into January. I would have thought his death would have been significant enough for a front page item, but found nothing. The obits are paid items and some of my family is notorious for being cheap, so maybe the Keizers didn't feel the need.

  Les C

  -----Original Message-----
  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Nancy Lee Adams
  Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:33 AM
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
  Subject: [or-roots] chat, religion & the weather


    Oh nooo, nobody has posted today day so far (almost noon), will I haven't received any.  Hearing about chat, religion & the weather doesn't seem so bad after all. I miss the posts that were coming one after the other, my biG mouth didn't help about the religion, sorry all.. I pray we haven't come to a dead stop again.

    Nancy




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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Thu Feb  4 19:17:05 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:17:05 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts
In-Reply-To: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net>

Layne G SAWYER wrote:

>Dear OR-rooters,
>
>... intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  
>

Therfore, one might assume that topical chatter is okay?  One of my 
heretofore unknown Oregon members of my family of Burr cousins recently 
contacted me with info on a different branch of that tree -- Yippee!

Bill Strickland


From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Thu Feb  4 19:23:31 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:23:31 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer
In-Reply-To: <898376B3F63F414188154C89B1C091BC@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEOEJGCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Nancy,

I have seen some of that information, but not the obit entry. That is
exactly what I was looking for. I spent about four hours going through two
reels at the library. The first reel was stupidity on my part as I knew he
had to have been buried sometime in late December since that was when the
final disposition of the grave was dated. For some reason I didn't think to
ask the young lady at the cemetery office what his burial date was or that
of Frances.

The board membership entries are all over the internet, I got about fifty
hits or more for Ennis Keizer when I searched for him and almost all of them
were for that. Except either one or two obits, I think I got one for a
brother and one for a son, or some such.

Thank you very much, I can go back and look again, I tend to nod off when
skimming the film rolls and probably slept through that date.

Les C


-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Lee Adams
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:38 PM


Les, Index to Obituaries, I you think you seen this already, but I don't
know where to go from there?

1998 Index to Obituaries
BRENIMAN JR, Clifton R; 78; Fort Collins CO>Coos Bay OR; 1998-3-19. BREWER,
James M; 95; ..... KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30
...
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm - Cached - Similar
KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30


Brown corpus - The University of Arizona, Tucson Arizona
In reply, Deputy Police Commissioner Howard R. Leary said that the city
spends more ...... Roy Webster, of Hood River, and Dr. Ennis Keizer, of
North Bend, ...
dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~hammond/ling696f-sp03/browncorpus.txt - Similar
Board oks pact the commission, meeting for the first time with both of its
newly-appointed commissioners, Roy Webster, of Hood River, and Dr. Ennis
Keizer, of North Bend, approved a year's contract for a consultant in the
data processing department who has been the center of considerable
controversy in the past.

Nancy



From whizinc at comcast.net  Thu Feb  4 19:32:35 2010
From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:32:35 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Yes for topical chatter =)   Burrs
In-Reply-To: <4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>
	<4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP>

Hi Bill,
I hope so.  Like Viola I enjoy the chatter coming in from all parts of
Oregon and outside of Oregon.  I like the information too.  I don't think we
stray too often into non-genealogical subjects.  

I have Buhr cousins.  My uncle was Raymond Paul Buhr b May 1924 in Mt.
Angel, OR.  His Father was John Nickolas Buhr who married Clara Reidhaar.
Any connections to your Burrs?
Ronda



-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
Bill Strickland
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:17 PM


Layne G SAWYER wrote:

>Dear OR-rooters,
>
>... intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  
>

Therfore, one might assume that topical chatter is okay?  One of my
heretofore unknown Oregon members of my family of Burr cousins recently
contacted me with info on a different branch of that tree -- Yippee!

Bill Strickland
_______________________________________________
or-roots mailing list
or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots



From whizinc at comcast.net  Thu Feb  4 19:40:24 2010
From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:40:24 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer
In-Reply-To: <898376B3F63F414188154C89B1C091BC@NancyPC>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEOEJCCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
	<898376B3F63F414188154C89B1C091BC@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <8C70C38773D84130B55AA08344500D61@HP>

Hi Nancy, 
I have 10 James Brewers in my database, but none born in 1903.  Rats,
thought I found something! 
Have a great day.
Ronda

  _____  

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy Lee
Adams
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:38 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer


Les, Index to Obituaries, I you think you seen this already, but I don't
know where to go from there?
 
 <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm> 1998 Index to
Obituaries
BRENIMAN JR, Clifton R; 78; Fort Collins CO>Coos Bay OR; 1998-3-19. BREWER,
James M; 95; ..... KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30
...
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm -
<http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:fIHMWlkMV64J:www.rootsweb.ancestry.com
/~orcoos/98index.htm+Ennis+R.+Keizer,+North+Bend+Coos,+OR.&cd=1&hl=en&ct=cln
k&gl=us> Cached -
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7
GGLL_en&q=related:www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm+Ennis+R.+Kei
zer,+North+Bend+Coos,+OR.&sa=X&ei=84BrS7v3BoegsgPeuoWjBg&ved=0CA0QHzAA>
Similar
KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30 
 
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Thu Feb  4 20:58:32 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:58:32 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Coos Co genealgoy
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKEJHCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Nancy found my obit for Ennis indexed at;

http://www.orgenweb.org/coos/index.htm

For those doing Coos (and some Curry) research that hasn't visited this site
lately or especially at all I suggest giving it a go. A lot of stuff added
since last time I looked there, or esle I just didn't look.

I found a whole bunch of stuff abstracted from Dodge on Phoebe's Wilson
family I didn't have including a couple of wives.

LEs C



From familyismytreasure at comcast.net  Thu Feb  4 21:10:27 2010
From: familyismytreasure at comcast.net (Marilyn Schwartz)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:10:27 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts
In-Reply-To: <4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>
	<4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6A1FDD9387D7464B930D3D73071878CF@OwnerPC>

Okay, my husband's grandmother was a Burr, one of about 13 kids.  I haven't
looked into that family in ages.  What's the story on your Burrs?

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
Bill Strickland
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:17 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts

Layne G SAWYER wrote:

>Dear OR-rooters,
>
>... intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  
>

Therfore, one might assume that topical chatter is okay?  One of my 
heretofore unknown Oregon members of my family of Burr cousins recently 
contacted me with info on a different branch of that tree -- Yippee!

Bill Strickland
_______________________________________________
or-roots mailing list
or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots



From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Thu Feb  4 21:12:53 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:12:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Burr under my saddle
In-Reply-To: <6A1FDD9387D7464B930D3D73071878CF@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKEJICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

a gentle reminder from one of the worst offenders; changing your subject
line to reflect the important part of the post is greatly appreciated

LEs

-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn Schwartz
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:10 PM

Okay, my husband's grandmother was a Burr, one of about 13 kids.  I haven't
looked into that family in ages.  What's the story on your Burrs?
http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Fri Feb  5 01:34:39 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:34:39 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] My Burr Family of Southern Oregon
In-Reply-To: <3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>	<4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net>
	<3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP>
Message-ID: <4B6BE62F.5020805@earthlink.net>

Steve & Ronda Howard wrote:

> I have Buhr cousins.  My uncle was Raymond Paul Buhr b May 1924 in Mt.
>Angel, OR.  
>

Marilyn Schwartz wrote:

>Okay, my husband's grandmother was a Burr, one of about 13 kids.  I haven't
>looked into that family in ages.  What's the story on your Burrs?
>  
>

The location does not exclude it, but I don't recognize any of the 
names, which also doesn't mean anything other than I don't recognize any 
names and there were a whole bunch of these people -- large families of  
of children who each have large families and after three generations 
that's 1500 people, sorta, and I maybe know 300 or so  in one branch out 
of  12.

When the  Sam and Rosetta Burr family left Kansas in 1909 for Oregon, it 
was reportedly to make their fortune logging. They would seem to have 
been subsistence farmers in the early days, logging when the work was 
available, with seasonal trips to the Yakima area of Washington State to 
pick apples. After stays in several places in southwestern Oregon, they 
eventually settled in the Silverton area, and the family spread out from 
there. Sam and Rosetta are buried in unmarked graves in the Pioneer 
Cemetery in Salem. Their son Robert Orrin's wife, Ruby Mae (Casebolt) 
Burr, was my grandmother Strickland's sister, and I am somewhat familiar 
with this branch of the family.
A couple twigs on this family tree have achieved a certain notoriety in 
the food world.

And since a couple folks have asked, this is the Oregon emigrant family --

Samuel Henry Burr, probably the son of Ezra Burr and Angelina Flemming, 
was born on 12 Aug 1859 in IA. He died on 28 May 1934 in Silverton, 
Marion, OR from a "sudden death -- probable coronary troubles"; an 
autopsy was "not allowed". He was likely buried on 30 May 1934 in an 
unknown and unmarked grave in Salem Pioneer Cemetery, possibly in the 
same lot as his wife.

Samuel married Rosetta Simpkins, daughter of Noah Simpkins and Rebecca 
Bennett Aturbary / Atterberry, on 12 Aug 1882 in Vernon County, MO. 
Rosetta was born on 11 Nov 1864 in Illinois. She died on 21 Feb 1933 in 
Deaconess Hospital, Salem, Marion, OR from following a herniotomy for a 
"strangulated umbilical hernia with gangrene of ileum". She was buried 
on 1 Mar 1933 in Salem Pioneer Cemetery (lot FA 12, sp 2 SW), Hoyt & 
Commercial St, South Salem, Marion, OR.

They had the following children:
     i.    Levatta Alvena Burr was born in Jan 1884 in MO.
Levatta married a VanSickle before 14 Jun 1900. VanSickle died before 14 
Jun 1900.
Levatta also married a Scott and a Jordan and perhaps others.
     ii.    Robert Orrin "Bob" Burr was born on 13 Mar 1885/1886. He 
died on 14 Mar 1967.
    iii.    Charles Frederick "Charley" Burr was born in Sep 1887 in MO. 
He died in 1951 in OSH, Salem, Marion, OR. He was buried in Bethany 
Pioneer Cemetery, Silverton, Marion, OR.
    iv.    Samuel A Burr was born in Aug 1889 in MO.
     v.    Celia A Burr was born in Nov 1891 in MO.
    vi.    Otis B "Oat" Burr was born in 18 Jul 1893/1892 in MO. He died 
in Jun 1968. Otis married Alva [Burr].
   vii.    Donald T "Don" Burr was born on 8 Jun 1895. He died on 30 Jul 
1977.
  viii.    Alvis "Ben" Burr was born in Mar 1898 in Hamilton, MO. He 
died in a Salem hospital. He was buried in Salem.
    ix.    Alvin A "Duck" Burr was born in Mar 1898 in MO. He died in 
1950 in OSH, Salem, Marion, OR. He was buried in Bethany Pioneer 
Cemetery, Silverton, Marion, OR.
     x.    Ida Burr was born about 1903 in KS. She died in Marshfield. 
Ida married Fribbey? Tribbie? [Fribley, Freeby].
    xi.    Orville? Theodore "Ted" Burr was born on 22 Feb 1905 in 
Burden, Cowley, KS. He died on 26 Dec 1966. He was buried in 29 Dec 
1966? in plot SO 2289, Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Multnomah 
/ Clackamas, OR.

Bill Strickland



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Fri Feb  5 07:14:42 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:14:42 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>	<4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net><3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP>
	<4B6BE62F.5020805@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <98F2890BE7B8476BAD53D24B4487AFCD@AroundHome>

 I am looking for the death info for
Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
She was seen on a 1900 census
Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.

I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.

This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
would be a big help.
I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.

I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
Or Walter some place.
Dan Matney 



From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Fri Feb  5 09:50:19 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:50:19 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
In-Reply-To: <98F2890BE7B8476BAD53D24B4487AFCD@AroundHome>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>	<4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net><3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP>	<4B6BE62F.5020805@earthlink.net>
	<98F2890BE7B8476BAD53D24B4487AFCD@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <05a801caa68b$b0285a60$10790f20$@net>

Dan

I'm sure you have spread this out before, but I don't have it handy.

Date of birth and location for Julia Ann? Parents?

Who was Rowe? Was she married to him in 1900? 

I don't find Walter J in the census. I find Walter Daniel and Walter Donald.
When/where/to whom was Walter J born?

Pat
In Tucson 



-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:15 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper

 I am looking for the death info for
Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
She was seen on a 1900 census
Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.

I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.

This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
would be a big help.
I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.

I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
Or Walter some place.
Dan Matney 

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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Fri Feb  5 10:26:02 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:26:02 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
In-Reply-To: <98F2890BE7B8476BAD53D24B4487AFCD@AroundHome>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us>	<4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net><3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP>	<4B6BE62F.5020805@earthlink.net>
	<98F2890BE7B8476BAD53D24B4487AFCD@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <05a901caa690$ac250850$046f18f0$@net>

OK, Dan, figured out who you were speaking of here.

Unfortunately, I don't have anything to add to the pot -- maybe as new
records come on line, that will change.

Pat
In Tucson







-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:15 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper

 I am looking for the death info for
Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
She was seen on a 1900 census
Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.

I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.

This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
would be a big help.
I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.

I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
Or Walter some place.
Dan Matney 

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From birdman_326 at msn.com  Fri Feb  5 14:23:27 2010
From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 22:23:27 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 20
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Census 2010

I  had a thought on this, I'm going to scan ours before I send it back in.  50 years from now, my familky will have a copy.  Thanks,  Laura
 
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From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 15:09:47 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer













Nancy; 
I think everyone has mostly wandered into their non Oregon stuff and the fact we 
chatted enough to upset some folks didn't really inhibit, we just all got to 
that point where we needed to consolidate our gains. 

 

I have 
a question; can anyone find out if there was an obituary published for Ennis 
Keizer?

 

I 
found his death notice in the Coos Bay paper The World stating he died on 20 
December 1998, but couldn't find an obit all the way into January. I would have 
thought his death would have been significant enough for a front page item, but 
found nothing. The obits are paid items and some of my family is notorious for 
being cheap, so maybe the Keizers didn't feel the need.

 

Les 
C


-----Original Message-----
From: 
or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Nancy Lee 
Adams
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:33 AM
To: 
or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots] chat, religion 
& the weather





Oh nooo, nobody has posted today day so far (almost 
noon), will I haven't received any.  Hearing about chat, religion & 
the weather doesn't seem so bad after all. I miss the posts that were coming 
one after the other, my biG mouth didn't help about the religion, sorry all.. 
I pray we haven't come to a dead stop again.

 

Nancy

 

 


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From: nancydean at columbia-center.org
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 18:37:56 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer













Les, Index to Obituaries, I you think you seen this 
already, but I don't know where to go from there?

 

1998 Index to Obituaries

BRENIMAN JR, Clifton R; 78; Fort 
Collins CO>Coos Bay OR; 1998-3-19. BREWER, James M; 95; 
..... KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; 
Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30 
...
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm - 
Cached - Similar

KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; 
Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30 

 

 

Brown corpus - The University of Arizona, Tucson 
Arizona

In reply, Deputy Police Commissioner Howard 
R. Leary said that the city spends more ...... Roy 
Webster, of Hood River, and Dr. Ennis Keizer, of North 
Bend, ...
dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~hammond/ling696f-sp03/browncorpus.txt - 
Similar

Board oks pact the commission, meeting for 
the first time with both of its newly-appointed commissioners, Roy Webster, of 
Hood River, and Dr. Ennis Keizer, of North 
Bend, approved a year's contract for a consultant in the data 
processing department who has been the center of considerable controversy in the 
past.


Nancy



----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
Leslie Chapman 

To: or-roots mail list 

Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:09 
PM

Subject: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) 
Kiezer




Nancy; I think everyone has mostly wandered into 
their non Oregon stuff and the fact we chatted enough to upset some folks 
didn't really inhibit, we just all got to that point where we needed to 
consolidate our gains. 

 

I 
have a question; can anyone find out if there was an obituary published for 
Ennis Keizer?

 

I 
found his death notice in the Coos Bay paper The World stating he died on 20 
December 1998, but couldn't find an obit all the way into January. I would 
have thought his death would have been significant enough for a front page 
item, but found nothing. The obits are paid items and some of my family is 
notorious for being cheap, so maybe the Keizers didn't feel the 
need.

 

Les 
C


-----Original Message-----
From: 
or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Nancy 
Lee Adams
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:33 AM
To: 
or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots] chat, 
religion & the weather





Oh nooo, nobody has posted today day so far (almost 
noon), will I haven't received any.  Hearing about chat, religion & 
the weather doesn't seem so bad after all. I miss the posts that were coming 
one after the other, my biG mouth didn't help about the religion, sorry 
all.. I pray we haven't come to a dead stop again.

 

Nancy

 

 








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From: lechevrier at earthlink.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:17:05 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts

Layne G SAWYER wrote:
 
>Dear OR-rooters,
>
>... intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  
>
 
Therfore, one might assume that topical chatter is okay?  One of my 
heretofore unknown Oregon members of my family of Burr cousins recently 
contacted me with info on a different branch of that tree -- Yippee!
 
Bill Strickland
 


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From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:23:31 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer

Nancy,
 
I have seen some of that information, but not the obit entry. That is
exactly what I was looking for. I spent about four hours going through two
reels at the library. The first reel was stupidity on my part as I knew he
had to have been buried sometime in late December since that was when the
final disposition of the grave was dated. For some reason I didn't think to
ask the young lady at the cemetery office what his burial date was or that
of Frances.
 
The board membership entries are all over the internet, I got about fifty
hits or more for Ennis Keizer when I searched for him and almost all of them
were for that. Except either one or two obits, I think I got one for a
brother and one for a son, or some such.
 
Thank you very much, I can go back and look again, I tend to nod off when
skimming the film rolls and probably slept through that date.
 
Les C
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Lee Adams
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:38 PM
 
 
Les, Index to Obituaries, I you think you seen this already, but I don't
know where to go from there?
 
1998 Index to Obituaries
BRENIMAN JR, Clifton R; 78; Fort Collins CO>Coos Bay OR; 1998-3-19. BREWER,
James M; 95; ..... KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30
...
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm - Cached - Similar
KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30
 
 
Brown corpus - The University of Arizona, Tucson Arizona
In reply, Deputy Police Commissioner Howard R. Leary said that the city
spends more ...... Roy Webster, of Hood River, and Dr. Ennis Keizer, of
North Bend, ...
dingo.sbs.arizona.edu/~hammond/ling696f-sp03/browncorpus.txt - Similar
Board oks pact the commission, meeting for the first time with both of its
newly-appointed commissioners, Roy Webster, of Hood River, and Dr. Ennis
Keizer, of North Bend, approved a year's contract for a consultant in the
data processing department who has been the center of considerable
controversy in the past.
 
Nancy
 
 


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From: whizinc at comcast.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:32:35 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Yes for topical chatter =) Burrs

Hi Bill,
I hope so.  Like Viola I enjoy the chatter coming in from all parts of
Oregon and outside of Oregon.  I like the information too.  I don't think we
stray too often into non-genealogical subjects.  
 
I have Buhr cousins.  My uncle was Raymond Paul Buhr b May 1924 in Mt.
Angel, OR.  His Father was John Nickolas Buhr who married Clara Reidhaar.
Any connections to your Burrs?
Ronda
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
Bill Strickland
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:17 PM
 
 
Layne G SAWYER wrote:
 
>Dear OR-rooters,
>
>... intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  
>
 
Therfore, one might assume that topical chatter is okay?  One of my
heretofore unknown Oregon members of my family of Burr cousins recently
contacted me with info on a different branch of that tree -- Yippee!
 
Bill Strickland
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From: whizinc at comcast.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:40:24 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) Kiezer













Hi Nancy, 

I have 10 James Brewers in my database, but none born in 
1903.  Rats, thought I found something! 

Have a great day.

Ronda






From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy 
Lee Adams
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:38 PM
To: 
or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frances (Hoffman) 
Kiezer





Les, Index to Obituaries, I you think you seen this 
already, but I don't know where to go from there?

 

1998 Index to Obituaries

BRENIMAN JR, Clifton R; 78; Fort 
Collins CO>Coos Bay OR; 1998-3-19. BREWER, 
James M; 95; ..... KEIZER, Dr 
Ennis; 90; Keizer>North 
Bend OR; 1998-12-30 ...
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~orcoos/98index.htm - 
Cached - Similar

KEIZER, Dr Ennis; 90; 
Keizer>North Bend OR; 1998-12-30 

 


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From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:58:32 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Coos Co genealgoy

Nancy found my obit for Ennis indexed at;
 
http://www.orgenweb.org/coos/index.htm
 
For those doing Coos (and some Curry) research that hasn't visited this site
lately or especially at all I suggest giving it a go. A lot of stuff added
since last time I looked there, or esle I just didn't look.
 
I found a whole bunch of stuff abstracted from Dodge on Phoebe's Wilson
family I didn't have including a couple of wives.
 
LEs C
 
 


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From: familyismytreasure at comcast.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:10:27 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts

Okay, my husband's grandmother was a Burr, one of about 13 kids.  I haven't
looked into that family in ages.  What's the story on your Burrs?
 
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
Bill Strickland
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:17 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Please minimize the off-topic posts
 
Layne G SAWYER wrote:
 
>Dear OR-rooters,
>
>... intervene regarding the off-topic chatter.  
>
 
Therfore, one might assume that topical chatter is okay?  One of my 
heretofore unknown Oregon members of my family of Burr cousins recently 
contacted me with info on a different branch of that tree -- Yippee!
 
Bill Strickland
_______________________________________________
or-roots mailing list
or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
 
 


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From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:12:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Burr under my saddle

a gentle reminder from one of the worst offenders; changing your subject
line to reflect the important part of the post is greatly appreciated
 
LEs
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn Schwartz
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:10 PM
 
Okay, my husband's grandmother was a Burr, one of about 13 kids.  I haven't
looked into that family in ages.  What's the story on your Burrs?
http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
 
 


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From: lechevrier at earthlink.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; familyismytreasure at comcast.net; whizinc at comcast.net
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 01:34:39 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] My Burr Family of Southern Oregon

Steve & Ronda Howard wrote:
 
> I have Buhr cousins.  My uncle was Raymond Paul Buhr b May 1924 in Mt.
>Angel, OR.  
>
 
Marilyn Schwartz wrote:
 
>Okay, my husband's grandmother was a Burr, one of about 13 kids.  I haven't
>looked into that family in ages.  What's the story on your Burrs?
>  
>
 
The location does not exclude it, but I don't recognize any of the 
names, which also doesn't mean anything other than I don't recognize any 
names and there were a whole bunch of these people -- large families of  
of children who each have large families and after three generations 
that's 1500 people, sorta, and I maybe know 300 or so  in one branch out 
of  12.
 
When the  Sam and Rosetta Burr family left Kansas in 1909 for Oregon, it 
was reportedly to make their fortune logging. They would seem to have 
been subsistence farmers in the early days, logging when the work was 
available, with seasonal trips to the Yakima area of Washington State to 
pick apples. After stays in several places in southwestern Oregon, they 
eventually settled in the Silverton area, and the family spread out from 
there. Sam and Rosetta are buried in unmarked graves in the Pioneer 
Cemetery in Salem. Their son Robert Orrin's wife, Ruby Mae (Casebolt) 
Burr, was my grandmother Strickland's sister, and I am somewhat familiar 
with this branch of the family.
A couple twigs on this family tree have achieved a certain notoriety in 
the food world.
 
And since a couple folks have asked, this is the Oregon emigrant family --
 
Samuel Henry Burr, probably the son of Ezra Burr and Angelina Flemming, 
was born on 12 Aug 1859 in IA. He died on 28 May 1934 in Silverton, 
Marion, OR from a "sudden death -- probable coronary troubles"; an 
autopsy was "not allowed". He was likely buried on 30 May 1934 in an 
unknown and unmarked grave in Salem Pioneer Cemetery, possibly in the 
same lot as his wife.
 
Samuel married Rosetta Simpkins, daughter of Noah Simpkins and Rebecca 
Bennett Aturbary / Atterberry, on 12 Aug 1882 in Vernon County, MO. 
Rosetta was born on 11 Nov 1864 in Illinois. She died on 21 Feb 1933 in 
Deaconess Hospital, Salem, Marion, OR from following a herniotomy for a 
"strangulated umbilical hernia with gangrene of ileum". She was buried 
on 1 Mar 1933 in Salem Pioneer Cemetery (lot FA 12, sp 2 SW), Hoyt & 
Commercial St, South Salem, Marion, OR.
 
They had the following children:
     i.    Levatta Alvena Burr was born in Jan 1884 in MO.
Levatta married a VanSickle before 14 Jun 1900. VanSickle died before 14 
Jun 1900.
Levatta also married a Scott and a Jordan and perhaps others.
     ii.    Robert Orrin "Bob" Burr was born on 13 Mar 1885/1886. He 
died on 14 Mar 1967.
    iii.    Charles Frederick "Charley" Burr was born in Sep 1887 in MO. 
He died in 1951 in OSH, Salem, Marion, OR. He was buried in Bethany 
Pioneer Cemetery, Silverton, Marion, OR.
    iv.    Samuel A Burr was born in Aug 1889 in MO.
     v.    Celia A Burr was born in Nov 1891 in MO.
    vi.    Otis B "Oat" Burr was born in 18 Jul 1893/1892 in MO. He died 
in Jun 1968. Otis married Alva [Burr].
   vii.    Donald T "Don" Burr was born on 8 Jun 1895. He died on 30 Jul 
1977.
  viii.    Alvis "Ben" Burr was born in Mar 1898 in Hamilton, MO. He 
died in a Salem hospital. He was buried in Salem.
    ix.    Alvin A "Duck" Burr was born in Mar 1898 in MO. He died in 
1950 in OSH, Salem, Marion, OR. He was buried in Bethany Pioneer 
Cemetery, Silverton, Marion, OR.
     x.    Ida Burr was born about 1903 in KS. She died in Marshfield. 
Ida married Fribbey? Tribbie? [Fribley, Freeby].
    xi.    Orville? Theodore "Ted" Burr was born on 22 Feb 1905 in 
Burden, Cowley, KS. He died on 26 Dec 1966. He was buried in 29 Dec 
1966? in plot SO 2289, Willamette National Cemetery, Portland, Multnomah 
/ Clackamas, OR.
 
Bill Strickland
 
 


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From: mygen2 at d-matney.com
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:14:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper

 I am looking for the death info for
Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
She was seen on a 1900 census
Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
 
I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
 
This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
would be a big help.
I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
 
I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
Or Walter some place.
Dan Matney 
 
 


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From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:50:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper

Dan
 
I'm sure you have spread this out before, but I don't have it handy.
 
Date of birth and location for Julia Ann? Parents?
 
Who was Rowe? Was she married to him in 1900? 
 
I don't find Walter J in the census. I find Walter Daniel and Walter Donald.
When/where/to whom was Walter J born?
 
Pat
In Tucson 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:15 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
 
 I am looking for the death info for
Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
She was seen on a 1900 census
Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
 
I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
 
This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
would be a big help.
I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
 
I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
Or Walter some place.
Dan Matney 
 
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From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:26:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper

OK, Dan, figured out who you were speaking of here.
 
Unfortunately, I don't have anything to add to the pot -- maybe as new
records come on line, that will change.
 
Pat
In Tucson
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:15 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
 
 I am looking for the death info for
Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
She was seen on a 1900 census
Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
 
I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
 
This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
would be a big help.
I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
 
I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
Or Walter some place.
Dan Matney 
 
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From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:05:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 20
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Great idea!!? 



Thanks, 

Barbara Herring 




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Subject: Re: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 20 

Census 2010 
I? had a thought on this, I'm going to scan ours before I send it back in.? 50 years from now, my familky will have a copy.? Thanks,? Laura 
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  5 20:04:41 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:04:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Interesting article on early Douglas and Coos County
	(1879)
Message-ID: <497831.51597.qm@web112402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


On the
Umpqua.
(Written for the Rural Press by Mrs. F.
F. Victor.) 

To go, or not to go, that was the
question, as I stood on the platform at Drain?s (Oregon), trying to
settle in my mind whether the Coos Bay country needed me as an
explorer, or whether I should be the better or the wiser for anything
I might discover at Coos Bay. How the question was decided will
appear by these notes; and I must leave out a whole volume of more or
less agreeable personal adventures to make room for that which the
reading public are more interested in.

The road from
Drain?s to Scottsburg is the only one traveled at present by wagons
across the mountains to that portion of the coast country embracing
the mouth of the Umpqua, Coos Bay, twenty miles south of the Umpqua,
and the Coquille river, a little further to the south. A road from
the bay to Roseburg has been in use, but has become unsafe ; also,
another to Oakland, but that also has been abandoned by wagon travel
in favor of the Scottsburg and Drain route. It is 36 miles between
these two points. The road has cost considerable money, but should
have more than as much again expended upon
it to make it comfortable, or even safe, especially in the winter
season. But, aside from the roughness of the road and the rather
primitive accommodations, there is a romantic and interesting country
lying in among these coast mountains, well worth the trouble of a
visit to see.

The road lies along
Elk creek, a pretty stream, which it follows to its junction with the
Umpqua, and thence down this more important river to navigable water.
Many schemes have been proposed for opening communication between the
coast country and the interior valleys, among them the improvement  
of the Umpqua river. Several years ago the Government expended
$10,000 in such an undertaking, and a small steamboat was built,
which made one trip to Roseburg, after which the navigation of the
river above Scottsburg was abandoned. Now the talk is of a railroad,
an enterprise which, if carried through, will develop a large extent
of mineral and lumbering country lying at present in a Rip Van Winkle
slumber.

So very slight is
the communication between the Coos country and the rest of Oregon
that the inhabitants have no hesitation in saying that they belong to
Oregon only politically? that otherwise they are a ?province of
California.? Let us see, now, what country this is that turns
itself into a foreign province for want of the  usual feeling of
relationship to its own geographical family. Passing over the
incidents of a romantic ride of 36 miles, among small cultivated
valleys, over mountains in all their primeval grandeur, and again
through a somewhat cultivated country on the west slope of the Coast
range, we come to Scottsburg.

This little burg is
named after Capt. Levi Scott, of pioneer memory, who settled here  in
1850. For a period of about 11 years it was a thriving business
place, being the rendezvous of packers who carried the supplies of
all southern Oregon and northern California, then actively engaged in
mining, over the mountains on mules. Thousands of mules were kept
here for this service, the goods being brought by vessels from San  
Francisco into the Umpqua river, and hence taken to the interior. At
that period there was an upper and a lower Scottsburg, about two
miles apart. The steamship Columbia, well known at Portland, was  at
one time under contract to run into the Umpqua twice a month, on her
way up the coast, to deliver the mails. Upon this promise, a
newspaper was started at Scottsburg, by Mr. D. J. Lyons, the present
proprietor of the ?Scottsburg House,? which was to publish the
earliest news to the mining districts before mentioned. But Capt.
Dall failed to fulfill his contract, and without news the paper was
of no value, therefore it was removed by a new publisher to
Jacksonville, and Scottsburg has never since aspired to publish a
newspaper. At the time referred to there were ten or a dozen stores
in the upper and lower towns, and a considerable export of timber for
vessels, masts, piles, ships knees, etc. But the gold mines soon
worked out, a good many vessels were lost on the bar at the mouth of
the Umpqua, steamers would not come in, and to complete the history
of disappointed hopes, the great flood of ?61-?62 carried away
the whole of the lower town and a large portion of the upper,
comprising most of the business houses. Such was the force of the
water that it not only carried away buildings, but tore away the
ground they had stood upon, and great trees, rocks and earth fell
into the roaring flood with frightful noise and tumult. The
Scottsburg of to-day is a sleepy little street of half a mile in
length, with two small stores, and other business in proportion.  
But it is a pretty and picturesque place, with a fine climate, and is
more suggestive of a Swiss hamlet than a
thriving center of trade, which it once aspired to be.

There is a good deal
of historical interest about this section of the Umpqua valley. The
Hudson Bay Company had a fort or trading post where Elk creek falls
into the Umpqua; and Allen, McKinley and McTavish, gentlemen of that
company, as well as the venerable pioneer, Hon. Jesse Applegate,
after the Oregon Territorial Government was established, went into
business in Scottsburg.

From Scottsburg, a
little steamer runs three times a week to Gardiner, 20 miles further
down the river. Gardiner is a lumbering town, doing considerable
business in good seasons. Its two mills cut, together, about 75,000
feet of lumber per diem. Vessels of 800 tons and downwards can
come to Gardiner to load. The situation to the place is cheerful, and
there are several very handsome residences, showing both means and
taste in their plan. Three stores and two hotels supply the present
demand for food and raiment. One feature of the country about
Gardiner struck me particularly-the hillsides are thickly overgrown
with red and white digitalis. As I had never before seen the plant
growing wild, I inquired into its history here, and was told that it
came from seed first planted by Mrs. A. C. Gibbs, who was the pioneer
lady of Gardiner. The same plant appears at Scottsburg, but not in
such quantity, and also at Marshfield on Coos bay. Gardiner was
founded in 1851 by a San Francisco company, of which Gov. Gibbs was a
member.

There is no better
means, at present, of pursuing your journey beyond Gardiner than by a
small boat. Into a small boat you go, then, and are rowed over the
rather choppy sea of the Lower Umpqua to the beach at Winchester bay,
where a wagon is waiting to carry travelers down the beach to Coos
Bay. From Gardiner to old Fort Umpqua is but a distance of three or
four miles. This fort was built about 1855, to keep in check
straggling Indians from the Reservation above, and prevent their
joining the hostiles in the Rogue River country. Three companies were
stationed there, under Lieuts. Lorain, Peper and Harding. It was
abandoned on the breaking out of the war of the Rebellion, in which
Lieut. Harding became a General. I neglected to mention in the proper
place another historical point lying just above Gardiner. This is
Bolon?s island, formerly called Smith?s island, and famous for
being the place where Jedediah Smith, of the firm of Smith, Sublette
& Jackson, American fur traders, was attacked by the Umpqua
Indians in the fall of I828, his furs captured and his party killed,
excepting himself and two others, who made good their escape. The
incident is fully related in ?The River of the West.? Considering
the inhospitable nature of the country where this event occurred, it
appears truly wonderful that these men should have been able to save
their lives and reach Fort Vancouver.

At Winchester bay is
what they call in this country, ?a farm;? though how such a place
resembles an  ordinary farm I could not discover.
There must be grass for stock, and a garden patch no doubt. More than
that did not seem probable, as the heavily wooded bluffs come down
quite close to the beach, and the shifting sand-hills that seem
always to be moving further inland. In truth the high mountains
nearest the sea are, many of them of sand, though now covered with a
growth of scrubby pines and other evergreen trees. My boatman landed
me at a point of rocks on the beach, about two miles inside the bar,
which could be seen breaking, though the day was unusually quiet.
This latter circumstance was very favorable to comfort, as the wind
makes a beach ride anything but pleasant when it comes strong from
nor?west or sou?west. After waiting three quarters of an hour on
the wet sands, the tide being at ebb, my impatience was relieved by
the arrival of the beach-wagon, a two-seated vehicle with wheels
tired with four-inch broad iron bands, that bowled along smoothly on
the firm beach with hardly a jar. In fact the worst feature of this
beach ride is its monotony?the sea just the same on one side and
the sand hills just the same on the other, for the whole distance,
and not the chance of a sensation, if the day be still. I am told,
however, in the winter, when the wind comes heavy from the southwest,
there is considerable excitement in being chased by the surf, with a
strong probability, sometimes, of being overwhelmed in it. The last
mile of the drive takes one over sand ridges and through marshes to a
station on Coos Bay opposite to Empire City, and about three miles
distant, to which place a small steamer conveys you, supposing you 
do not prefer to go to
Marsh hold, as I
did. But Coos Bay, this ?province of California,? must have a
chapter to itself, and I will close this one by noticing something in
the botany and natural history of the country that struck me as
interesting.

To begin with the
natural history: I had my attention called to a species of lizard
that has the head of a snake, and the same movement in locomotion,
but had also small legs like a lizard, which it did not seem to use
in crawling. The marks upon its skin were like those on a snake, and
its length was about one foot and a half. This creature is called by
the people where it inhabits, the ?jointed snake,? because, they
say, it falls into pieces if you strike it, and comes together again!
The one I saw lost quite a long piece of its tail when it was struck,
and was partly separated in another place,
but did not come together, as it was soon put into alcohol. Another
curious reptile of the Umpqua valley is the snake with a head at each
end. As I did not see one I could not be satisfied that there were
really two heads, but from the testimony, I was satisfied there was
at least the appearance of two heads. This snake is said to move
either way with equal speed, showing that wherever its locomotive
power is situated, it is reversible, and that, practically, it is a
?double-ender.?

Of the botany of the
country, what made a most agreeable impression, was the abundance of
elegant shrubs, such as the myrtle, which is in fact a tree,
Rhododendron maximus, and a delicate lavender-colored spirea, which
goes by the name of ?California lilac,? though not in any respect
like that shrub. The myrtle grows in a cone-shaped mass, the dark,
glossy foliage being so dense that the trunk and branches are quite
concealed. It has, in spring, small blossoms rising on stems from the
bases of the terminal leaves, in the autumn a small green berry is in
place of the flower. The odor of the leaves is very pungent. The
Rhododendron grows six or eight feet high, and presents a profusion
of lovely rose-colored flowers, which, as they often grow alongside
of the beautiful lavender spirea, are thereby set off most
exquisitely. I did not observe any great variety of annuals or
humbler wild flowers of any kind. Neither was there anything of
interest along the sea beach, neither shells, nor birds, nor even
seaweeds. Rather a lonely, voiceless shore, both of river and ocean,
but the woods made up in grandeur and beauty for the want of color
and life on the coast.
 
Pacific
Rural Press, Volume 18, Number 19, 8 November 1879 http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr/cgi-bin/newsucr?a=d&cl=search&d=PRP18791115.2.5.2&srpos=145&e=-------en-logical-20--141-byDA---marshfield-all


 Robyn
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Fri Feb  5 20:54:25 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:54:25 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Interesting article on early Douglas and Coos
	County	(1879)
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Robyn; 

Thank you for posting that. Great Grand MMM was supposed to have been involved in the steam boat trip to Roseburg. Nina and I were talking about that the other day and she was wondering how big it was. Of course her question was stimulated by the fact she was under the impression we were still on the Umpqua when we were about half way to Drain on Elk Creek.

I wonder about the phrase "which it follows to its junction with the Umpqua" as I had always thought the "road" somewhat followed the route of highway 38 in terms of cutting across some of the major oxbows. Hmm, I wonder what I could find in the USGLO maps.

The story about taking the wagon down the beach from Windy bay to coos bay is very familiar as I have heard many stories about that trip, and it would follow the same route that Grandpa Hansen made on his heroic but futile ride to the doctor for girls buried at the mouth of North fork.

I assume by digitalis he is referring to foxglove, I hadn't realized it was introduced. The snake stories sound like tall tales to me, though I know some people feel that the rubber boa is a two headed snake, but trust me, it can't go in either direction.

Les



From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  6 06:12:48 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 06:12:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Interesting article on early Douglas and Coos County
	(1879)
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OK Les, now you've peaked my interest.....

"Grandpa Hansen made on his heroic but futile ride to the doctor for girls buried at the mouth of North fork."

More details please....

And I hadn't realized that foxglove was introduced either - one of my favorite parts of that story. The story does continue and I'm working on getting it transcribed. It's not as interesting to me as this piece was, but it does have some interesting tidbits to it.

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)




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Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 8:54:25 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Interesting article on early Douglas and Coos County (1879)

Robyn; 

Thank you for posting that. Great Grand MMM was supposed to have been involved in the steam boat trip to Roseburg. Nina and I were talking about that the other day and she was wondering how big it was. Of course her question was stimulated by the fact she was under the impression we were still on the Umpqua when we were about half way to Drain on Elk Creek.

I wonder about the phrase "which it follows to its junction with the Umpqua" as I had always thought the "road" somewhat followed the route of highway 38 in terms of cutting across some of the major oxbows. Hmm, I wonder what I could find in the USGLO maps.

The story about taking the wagon down the beach from Windy bay to coos bay is very familiar as I have heard many stories about that trip, and it would follow the same route that Grandpa Hansen made on his heroic but futile ride to the doctor for girls buried at the mouth of North fork.

I assume by digitalis he is referring to foxglove, I hadn't realized it was introduced. The snake stories sound like tall tales to me, though I know some people feel that the rubber boa is a two headed snake, but trust me, it can't go in either direction.

Les

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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sat Feb  6 09:22:25 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:22:25 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Interesting article on early Douglas and Coos
 County(1879)
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In my "Audoban Society Field Guide to N A Flowers" it just refers to
foxglove them as of foreign origin.

as to the heroic feat, here is the excerpt from Bob Chambers "My Norwegian
Heritage";

"After Jens' accident, Henry logged on the North FOrk of the Smith River
under the foreman, Milton Sherret (his brother-in-law [actually he has the
relationship confused; Milton Sr. married a 1st cousin of Emma Viola
(Melvin) Hansen]), and here hangs a tale, one of many legendary stories
demonstrating the physical prowess of Henry.

Sherrit's young daugher contracted diptheria that in those days often proved
fatal. As there was no doctor in Gardiner at that time, Henry volunteered to
secure one form Marshfield. This undertaking requird him to rwo down from
the North Fork f the Smith River to winchester Bay (around 25 miles) where
he borrowed a horse from the stage depot and rode to the north side of Coos
Bay at Jarvis Point, hailed a boat and was rowed across the bay to Empire,
walked to Mashfield and secured a doctor. The next day with the doctor in
tow, they made their way back to the logging camp."

[the way I understood the story from hearing it many times in my life was he
made the first round trip in 24 hours. Bob goes on to explain one girl had
already died by the time they arrived and the other girl soon after and then
Grampa took the doctor back in more or less the same manner, hopefully
stopping to rest along the way on the return voyage.]

That heroic feat is supposedly why Emma Viola thought he would make a good
father, I guess since to the grandchildren they had 57 decendant to the
grand children [that I can count, I think I am missing two]

One note not in the book is that Emma (Tucker) Sherrett became something of
a burden for Grandma in her declining years. Our family has a pretty good
history of taking care of our own, even when maybe we'd rather not and in
the "Letters to Grandma" are several from Emma after Milton passed away
thanking her for financial aid and a couple asking for a "little
assistance." In those letters I found other family members were also a bit
of a burden on Grandma, but she bore it well.

Les C


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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:13 AM
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County(1879)


OK Les, now you've peaked my interest.....

"Grandpa Hansen made on his heroic but futile ride to the doctor for girls
buried at the mouth of North fork."

More details please....

And I hadn't realized that foxglove was introduced either - one of my
favorite parts of that story. The story does continue and I'm working on
getting it transcribed. It's not as interesting to me as this piece was, but
it does have some interesting tidbits to it.


Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)

http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots



From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Sat Feb  6 09:51:30 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:51:30 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Interesting article on early Douglas and Coos
	County	(1879)
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Robyn

 

Thank you for sharing this. And, of course, I ?had? to go to the website, whereupon I spent two hours searching for other California relatives.

 

This is a great source ? I found one story about ?Uncle Buck? Graves (William J Graves), lawyer and judge in San Luis Obisbo, that I had not heard before, and it fills in some blanks.

 

William J Graves sister, Catherine Nowlin Graves, was my 2ggm. She and my 2ggf, John H Palmer, as well as another brother, John (Jack) and Maria (Glover) Graves were early settlers of Graves Butte, later Mt. Angel.

 

(Just thought I?d get a little ?advertising? in here <G>)

 

Pat

In Tucson 


Pacific Rural Press, Volume 18, Number 19, 8 November 1879 


http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr/cgi-bin/newsucr?a=d <http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr/cgi-bin/newsucr?a=d&cl=search&d=PRP18791115.2.5.2&srpos=145&e=-------en-logical-20--141-byDA---marshfield-all> &cl=search&d=PRP18791115.2.5.2&srpos=145&e=-------en-logical-20--141-byDA---marshfield-all

 

 

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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 10:31:32 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:31:32 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Spain
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 Some one was trying to tell me the conquerers from Spain were in Oregon area back when they were rampaging these lands.
   I have not studied them but there was a tall tale about a cave with artifacts seen some where near wagontire .
  Wagontire is one of my interests I would like to plan on learning about.
Any one make a study of these things its ok to write me off list.
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 13:10:58 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:10:58 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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do you have a birthdate for here
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> I am looking for the death info for
> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
> She was seen on a 1900 census
> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
> 
> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
> 
> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
> would be a big help.
> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
> 
> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
> Or Walter some place.
> Dan Matney 
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 13:28:01 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:28:01 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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Island City
Union County
Oregon  USA
 look for Julia cooper
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dan
>
> I'm sure you have spread this out before, but I don't have it handy.
>
> Date of birth and location for Julia Ann? Parents?
>
> Who was Rowe? Was she married to him in 1900?
>
> I don't find Walter J in the census. I find Walter Daniel and Walter 
> Donald.
> When/where/to whom was Walter J born?
>
> Pat
> In Tucson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:15 AM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>
> I am looking for the death info for
> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
> She was seen on a 1900 census
> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>
> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
>
> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it
> would be a big help.
> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>
> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
> Or Walter some place.
> Dan Matney
>
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 13:33:33 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:33:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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      Birth:  1916
      Death:  1938


      Note: Parents; Thomas & Mary (Shaw) Cooper.

      Burial:
      Island City Cemetery
      Island City
      Union County
      Oregon, USA
      Plot: Veranda, Btwn 2nd/3rd Add., Block-04, Lot-02.

      Created by: Edwyn J. Wilson
      Record added: Nov 07, 2008
      Find A Grave Memorial# 31204931

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> Dan
>
> I'm sure you have spread this out before, but I don't have it handy.
>
> Date of birth and location for Julia Ann? Parents?
>
> Who was Rowe? Was she married to him in 1900?
>
> I don't find Walter J in the census. I find Walter Daniel and Walter 
> Donald.
> When/where/to whom was Walter J born?
>
> Pat
> In Tucson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:15 AM
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> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>
> I am looking for the death info for
> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
> She was seen on a 1900 census
> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>
> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
>
> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it
> would be a big help.
> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>
> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
> Or Walter some place.
> Dan Matney
>
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 13:59:55 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:59:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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look for spouce of julia cooper  married mattney
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> do you have a birthdate for here
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>
>
>> I am looking for the death info for
>> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
>> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
>> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
>> She was seen on a 1900 census
>> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>>
>> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
>>
>> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
>> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
>> would be a big help.
>> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>>
>> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
>> Or Walter some place.
>> Dan Matney _______________________________________________
>> or-roots mailing list
>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 14:38:50 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:38:50 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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Julia MATNEY living per the 1900 Polk Co., OR census.......
..... Julia and Walter divorced in 1873 Polk Co. OR.....
.....  Per the 1900 Census..... Julia Ann MATNEY was born November 1830, age 
69
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> look for spouce of julia cooper  married mattney
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>
>
>> do you have a birthdate for here
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>
>>
>>> I am looking for the death info for
>>> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
>>> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
>>> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
>>> She was seen on a 1900 census
>>> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>>>
>>> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence 
>>> Oregon.
>>>
>>> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
>>> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
>>> would be a big help.
>>> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>>>
>>> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
>>> Or Walter some place.
>>> Dan Matney _______________________________________________
>>> or-roots mailing list
>>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>> _______________________________________________
>> or-roots mailing list
>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>
> _______________________________________________
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> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 14:53:26 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:53:26 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
In-Reply-To: <D99E9E4F5A304C8E9FD4B22EF44D92A6@AroundHome>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us><4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net><3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP><4B6BE62F.5020805@earthlink.net><98F2890BE7B8476BAD53D24B4487AFCD@AroundHome><87D76B60D4F648D3970752139864EEB1@OwnerPC><FC38E91C441C45849A4FBD00682DB920@OwnerPC>
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MATNEY FAMILY RESEARCHER:
Walter Jefferson MATNEY (1817-1874): m1. 1847 Martha Jane [maiden name 
unknown]; m2. 1853 Julia Ann COOPER, ; s/o Broadwater and Sarah 
(McCully/McCullough) Matney; Walter died in Modoc County, CA; was father of 
10 children; also see MATNEY FAMILY by Dan Matney
"Walter was twenty-six years old in 1843 when he signed on to drive one of 
the wagons of Alexander Zachary, who Matney would indelibly learn was the 
cruelest man in the 1843 immigration.  As Zachary's provisions began to 
diminish, he informed Matney that  he would have to provide his own 
provisions thereafter.  When Matney protested, Zachary fired him and left 
him without resources in the wilderness. Perhaps it was after this that 
Matney rode the very small jackass that Edward Lennox spoke of in his 
recollection."We had a great deal of fun also with a man by the name of 
Mataney [sic].  Mataney was about six and a half feet tall, and when he was 
on his donkey, his feet nearly touched the ground.  To him the boys would 
say, "Get off that rabbit and carry him!"  "Presently J.W. Nesmith bought 
the jack for five hundred dollars, mounted him, and rode off without paying 
for him, so Mataney sued Nesmith.  The company appointed Burnett as judge. 
A trial was held at night.  Nesmith pleaded non-jurisdiction and won the 
case.  The next day Nesmith rode the jack, and Mataney walked and knew not 
what to do, but along toward night, Nesmith having had his fill of the fun, 
got off, saying, 'Here Mataney, take this rabbit, I wouldn't have such a 
thing.' Mataney mounted the creature and was happy once more." Matney 
married his first wife in 1847.  Apparently she died and he married Julia 
Ann Cooper in 1853.  Matney settled on a Donation Land Claim in Polk County, 
where he died in 1874" [ Information provided by Don Rivara; in addition to 
this web site his sources include [1] Our Proud Past, by Gail I. McCormick, 
self-published, p. 17 [James Nesmith's Diary of 1843, extracted from the 
Oregon Historical Quarterly, December 1906]; [2] Overland to Oregon, by 
Edward Lenox, pp.56]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


>
> Julia MATNEY living per the 1900 Polk Co., OR census.......
> ..... Julia and Walter divorced in 1873 Polk Co. OR.....
> .....  Per the 1900 Census..... Julia Ann MATNEY was born November 1830, 
> age 69
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>
>
>> look for spouce of julia cooper  married mattney
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>
>>
>>> do you have a birthdate for here
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
>>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am looking for the death info for
>>>> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
>>>> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
>>>> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
>>>> She was seen on a 1900 census
>>>> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>>>>
>>>> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence 
>>>> Oregon.
>>>>
>>>> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
>>>> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
>>>> would be a big help.
>>>> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>>>>
>>>> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
>>>> Or Walter some place.
>>>> Dan Matney _______________________________________________
>>>> or-roots mailing list
>>>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> or-roots mailing list
>>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> or-roots mailing list
>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 15:01:08 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:01:08 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
In-Reply-To: <D99E9E4F5A304C8E9FD4B22EF44D92A6@AroundHome>
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There is a "J.S Cooper Block" in Independence, OR. The building/s are of
brick. The building fascinated me and I have made a drawing of it as it 
looks
today. This is not, however, a part of my Cooper line.

Carroll Cooper Summers
thought I would mention my Coopers are the ones who made the big Cooper
brick company in Independence Oregon.
There is also a very large Cooper headstone in the cemetery out there,
not sure if it is one of my Coopers tho.
Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


>
> Julia MATNEY living per the 1900 Polk Co., OR census.......
> ..... Julia and Walter divorced in 1873 Polk Co. OR.....
> .....  Per the 1900 Census..... Julia Ann MATNEY was born November 1830, 
> age 69
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>
>
>> look for spouce of julia cooper  married mattney
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>
>>
>>> do you have a birthdate for here
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
>>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am looking for the death info for
>>>> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
>>>> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
>>>> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
>>>> She was seen on a 1900 census
>>>> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>>>>
>>>> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence 
>>>> Oregon.
>>>>
>>>> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
>>>> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
>>>> would be a big help.
>>>> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>>>>
>>>> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
>>>> Or Walter some place.
>>>> Dan Matney _______________________________________________
>>>> or-roots mailing list
>>>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> or-roots mailing list
>>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> or-roots mailing list
>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 15:53:06 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:53:06 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper MARRIAGE RECORDS WASHINGTON
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> I am looking for the death info for
> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
> She was seen on a 1900 census
> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>
> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
>
> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it
> would be a big help.
> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>
> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
> Or Walter some place.
> Dan Matney
>
> _______________________________________________
> or-roots mailing list
> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots 



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 16:08:41 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:08:41 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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What I was looking for was a burial for Julia.
It seems she might have missed out on the death certificates so I was hoping 
some one might have run across a tombstone or might be a related researcher 
and know when she passed and was buried.

Walter might always be a mystery unless like above a related researcher 
might have info lots of people buried in the 1800`s only had wood markers 
and they were lost in time.

I know there are lots of people indexing cemeteries and other such things so 
once in a while I ask in hopes some one saw something some place.
Its most likely a lost part of my genealogy.
I know she had lands but I did not find any probates.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> MATNEY FAMILY RESEARCHER: 



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 16:12:01 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:12:01 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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I have not done a lot research on the Cooper folks.
I know Walt Davis has the Old Cooper DLC that were my relations.
I don't know what tombstone in the independence cemetery would be my 
relations either but I did take a picture of the big round one.  My folks 
are on the last entrance on the right just as you go in.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
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> There is a "J.S Cooper Block" in Independence, OR. The building/s are of
> brick. The building fascinated me and I have made a drawing of it as it 
> looks
> today. This is not, however, a part of my Cooper line.
>
> Carroll Cooper Summers
> thought I would mention my Coopers are the ones who made the big Cooper
> brick company in Independence Oregon.
> There is also a very large Cooper headstone in the cemetery out there,
> not sure if it is one of my Coopers tho.
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>
>
>>
>> Julia MATNEY living per the 1900 Polk Co., OR census.......
>> ..... Julia and Walter divorced in 1873 Polk Co. OR.....
>> .....  Per the 1900 Census..... Julia Ann MATNEY was born November 1830, 
>> age 69
>> Dan M
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>
>>
>>> look for spouce of julia cooper  married mattney
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
>>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>>
>>>
>>>> do you have a birthdate for here
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>>>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for the death info for
>>>>> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
>>>>> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
>>>>> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
>>>>> She was seen on a 1900 census
>>>>> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence 
>>>>> Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
>>>>> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place 
>>>>> it would be a big help.
>>>>> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found 
>>>>> her.
>>>>> Or Walter some place.
>>>>> Dan Matney _______________________________________________
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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Sat Feb  6 16:16:47 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:16:47 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
Message-ID: <e8da.57315e61.389f606f@aol.com>

Dan
None of the Cooper's in Independence cemetery are  mine. I have mine all 
accounted for and none were in this part of Oregon. GrGr  grandparents, 
Nathaniel Parda Cooper married Sophia Lucinda Cowles  in 1835  in Pultneyville, NY 
in 1835. They had my gr grandfather, Hulburt DeWitt Cooper  in 1836 in PA 
(somewhere). Second son was James FitzJames Cooper, b 1839 in  Frankfort, KY. 
They were in Iowa, Wash. Co. by 1843 until 1860 where they had  several 
daughters and one more son, Theodore Henry (Harry) Cooper. Moving on to  CO by 
1862 they settled there near Ft Collins until Nathaniel died in 1870. A  
couple years later all of the boys, one sister and Sophia were in Jackson  Co., 
Oregon. My grandfather, Guy Colin Scott Cooper was b in CO in 1872. James  
was a school teacher, DeWitt a farmer. In 1884 Sophia made a land purchase 
in  Baker co. near Weatherby. She died there in 1893 and is buried on her 160 
 acres, high on a hill overlooking the Burnt River, Hwy I-84 and the 
railroad,  all of which run  north to south, through the middle of what was her  
land,. This was also a part of the pioneer trail from Idaho to Baker City. 
Last  Oct. a son took me to Baker City where we found a great many documents 
and were  also able to contact the people who now own a part of her land. 
They took us  up  their private road, through their private gate and way up on 
a hill, so  high the big rigs looked like little toys. There we saw the CW 
headstone for  James. It reads: Com. Sgt. (Commisary Sergent), Co. M, 2nd 
Colorado Calvary with  his initials of J.F.J. Cooper. There was no date but he 
died, never having  married, Dec. 25 IBible record) or Dec 26 (Military 
record), 1889. My  grandfather was the only Cooper male from the three brothers. 
He and his father  ended up in Portland around 1906 and both are buried at 
the Multnomah Park  Cemetery at 82nd and Holgate in Portland. All of my 
Cooper's are accounted for  and none are related to other Oregon Cooper's. There 
were several sisters who  are also accounted for and have been in touch 
with descendants of the youngest  one, Edmonia Cooper Ryan whose daughter Grace 
married a Himmel - lived in  Silverton. Just wanted to set the record 
straight - No Julia in our  family.
Carroll Cooper Summers
 
 
There is  a "J.S Cooper Block" in Independence, OR. The building/s are of
brick. The  building fascinated me and I have made a drawing of it as it  
looks
today. This is not, however, a part of my Cooper  line.

Carroll Cooper Summers
thought I would mention my Coopers are  the ones who made the big Cooper
brick company in Independence  Oregon.
There is also a very large Cooper headstone in the cemetery out  there,
not sure if it is one of my Coopers  tho.
Dan
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 16:22:44 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:22:44 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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Glad you are all accounted for.
I have a lot of mine too, just missing Julia is all oh yeah and Walter.
I will get into a file I have on Cooper to let you know some of mine later.
Dan M
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  Dan
  None of the Cooper's in Independence cemetery are mine. I have mine all accounted for and none were in this part of Oregon.  
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 16:24:53 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:24:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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Julia Ann Auten Cooper 3-8-1926 Commerce twp. Oakland CO. MI Commerce Cem. 
Oaland Co.MI COOPER FUNERAL TO BE THURSDAY COMMERCE WOMAN EXPIRES OF 
INFIRMATIES Died at home of her son (special to the Daily Press) COMMERCE< 
March 9,--- Mrs. Julia Ann Cooper, 75 years old, widow of Lester Cooper, 
died yesterday at 4 a.m. at the home of her son, Lester L. Cooper, Jr. of 
Commerce. She was in ill-health for a year and bedfast for a week. prior to 
her death because of infirmaties. Funeral services will be held Thursday at 
2 P.M. at the home of her son here and burial will be made in Commerce 
Cemetery. Surviving are a son , a sister, Mrs. Della Sherwood, Seymour Lake: 
and three brothers. Thomas Auton, Cass City, Bert Auton, Ortovnille, and 
Oscar, Detroit. Mrs. Cooper was born in Brandon Twp March 22, 1851, and came 
to Commerce 25 years ago from Detroit. Deniseo6 at Charter.net



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> I am looking for the death info for
> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
> She was seen on a 1900 census
> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>
> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
>
> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
> would be a big help.
> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>
> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
> Or Walter some place.
> Dan Matney
> _______________________________________________
> or-roots mailing list
> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots 



From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 16:25:37 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:25:37 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
In-Reply-To: <98F2890BE7B8476BAD53D24B4487AFCD@AroundHome>
References: <4B6986E7.4327.0080.0@sos.state.or.us><4B6B8DB1.7030500@earthlink.net><3B39BB5A804D498FA78FFBA20359DFC8@HP><4B6BE62F.5020805@earthlink.net>
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      Pedigree Chart  FamilySearchT Ancestral File v4.19

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      4  Lewis L COOPER B:  1797
                  Shelbyville, Shelby, Kentucky
                  D:  1875
                  Dallas, Polk, Oregon




      9





      2  James Lindsay COOPER B:  1822
                  Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky
                  D:  3 Dec 1864
                  Dallas, Polk Co, Or
                  M:  25 Dec 1843
                  Keytsville, Chariton Co, Mo


           Family
      10





      5  Mrs COOPER POLLY B:  < 1800
                  <Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky>




      1  Julia A COOPER B:  1853
                  Dallas, Polk, Or




      11





        Family Walter MATTNEY B:  < 1849
                  <Dallas, Polk, Or>




      12





      6  John LINDSEY B:  < 1795
                  <Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky>





      13





      3  Family Hester Ann LINDSEY B:  1821
                  Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky
                  D:  Aft 1874
                  Dallas, Polk Co, Or



           Family
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      7  Mrs LINDSEY B:  < 1799
                  <Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky>





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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> I am looking for the death info for
> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
> She was seen on a 1900 census
> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>
> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
>
> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
> would be a big help.
> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>
> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
> Or Walter some place.
> Dan Matney
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From pmml at meritel.net  Sat Feb  6 16:32:07 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:32:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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4  Lewis L COOPER B:  1797
Shelbyville, Shelby, Kentucky
D:  1875
Dallas, Polk, Oregon




9





2  James Lindsay COOPER B:  1822
Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky
D:  3 Dec 1864
Dallas, Polk Co, Or
M:  25 Dec 1843
Keytsville, Chariton Co, Mo


       Family
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5  Mrs COOPER POLLY B:  < 1800
<Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky>




1  Julia A COOPER B:  1853
Dallas, Polk, Or




11





    Family Walter MATTNEY B:  < 1849
<Dallas, Polk, Or>




12





6  John LINDSEY B:  < 1795
<Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky>





13





3  Family Hester Ann LINDSEY B:  1821
Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky
D:  Aft 1874
Dallas, Polk Co, Or



       Family
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7  Mrs LINDSEY B:  < 1799
<Shelbyville, Shelby Co, Ky>





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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DanM." <mygen2 at d-matney.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


> I am looking for the death info for
> Julia Ann Cooper > Matney > Rowe
> Unknown if she went by Matney after Rowe
> Unknown if there was a divorce from Rowe
> She was seen on a 1900 census
> Also was listed as selling a land I dont know the date just off hand.
>
> I dont know what year she died, I know it was around Independence Oregon.
>
> This is a brick wall I dont know just where to look.
> If any one crosses Walter J Matney in indexs or Julia Ann some place it 
> would be a big help.
> I do know where Rowe was buried and I have his death cert.
>
> I was in hopes that one of the tombstone projects might have found her.
> Or Walter some place.
> Dan Matney
> _______________________________________________
> or-roots mailing list
> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots 



From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Sat Feb  6 16:49:02 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:49:02 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
Message-ID: <f288.249f5b0e.389f67fe@aol.com>

That would be good. If you have any in upstate NY  maybe we are connected. 
Nathaniel was b 1805 in NY but have spent years trying  to find his family, 
With no luck.  Have Sophia's back to Holland on  her mother's side while her 
father's side seems to be all English in CT and  thereabouts.. Hence the 
Dutch and very English names of the two oldest  sons.
Carroll Cooper Summers
 
Glad you are all accounted for.
I have a lot of mine too, just missing Julia is all oh yeah  and Walter.
I will get into a file I have on Cooper to let you know some  of mine later.
Dan M

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To: _or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ 
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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:16  PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann  Cooper


Dan
None of the Cooper's in Independence cemetery are  mine. I have mine all 
accounted for and none were in this part of  Oregon.   



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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 17:03:17 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:03:17 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
References: <f288.249f5b0e.389f67fe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <38FDB498315E4F7A97DBB9E116F70108@AroundHome>

I have a book called Cooper town with Fennimore Cooper in it?
I think its based on NY.
I will have to unpack my books one day.
First I want to put up the book shelves so I have a place for them.
Dan M
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  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper


  That would be good. If you have any in upstate NY maybe we are connected. Nathaniel was b 1805 in NY but have spent years trying to find his family, With no luck.  Have Sophia's back to Holland on her mother's side while her father's side seems to be all English in CT and thereabouts.. Hence the Dutch and very English names of the two oldest sons.
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb  6 17:08:08 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:08:08 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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I think this misses my Julia a bit.
thanks for all the looking.
  once my cousin was walking a cemetery some place near Independence and 
thought she saw a headstone with Julia on it, but she went to her rv and had 
dinner and could not find her way back to that cemetery next day.
   Its gone to a long Shot.
Yes she is of the Harben Cooper line.
Dan M
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> Julia Ann Auten Cooper 3-8-1926 Commerce twp. Oakland CO. MI Commerce Cem. 



From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Sun Feb  7 05:40:49 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:40:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Julia Ann Cooper
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I have Cooper's in my family, from Dallas and Independence Oregon Area but have not done any research on them, and do not know if a cousin has done any research on them, my Cooper's moved many years ago to Cottage Grove, from Dallas.
Living 
Cooper's Gene and Sharon Pitzer Cooper.
Deceased.
Harriet Eva Cooper born 1907 Portland, Oregon
Mildren Emily Born 1916 Portland, Oregon
do not have any data on who they married Etc.
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  7 06:20:43 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:20:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Pacific Rural Press - Coos Bay article
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This is the continuation of the article "on the Umpqua" that I shared a couple of days ago. I hope people enjoy it as much as the last one. Thank you all for your kind comments and interesting connections to this area.

Pacific
Rural Press, Volume 18, Number 20, 15 November 1879 
Coos
Bay.
[Written for the Rural Press by Mrs. F. F. Victor. ] 
Coos Bay is an inlet with a mouth like that of a river, and
ramifies in many directions, forming narrow sloughs, or bayous, up
which tide-water forces itself, making navigation very much dependent
upon it. The bar is troublesome and dangerous in the stormy season,
needing to be "improved" by the expenditure of money enough
to build jetties that would confine the channel between fixed limits,
compelling the water to keep the entrance clear. The resources of the
country about the bay are sufficient to warrant the appropriation by
Government of such a sum, and undoubtedly the day will soon arrive
when this work will be commenced. There is a marked similarity
between Coos Bay and the general features of Puget Bound, the
difference being chiefly in the dimensions. As the Umpqua river is a
smaller copy of the Columbia, so Coos Bay is a diminished Puget
sound, the wooded shores, the numerous arms and the milling of lumber
appearing to reproduce the same effects. So heavily timbered is the
country adjacent to its waters that cultivation of the earth is but
little carried on, even vegetables and fruits being scarce, while the
climate and the soil are favorable enough for their production. This
negligence on the part of the settlers sometimes conspires with rough
weather on the bar to produce a stringency in the provision market.
Last winter, for instance, there were 72 consecutive days when
vessels could not come in or go out, and during this period many
persons were forced to live on very simple rations, if not on short
allowance. It is at such a time as this that railroad projects are
discussed with greatest earnestness, and when the people desire
something more than a political relation with Oregon. 


Coming in from the sea, Empire City is the first town arrived at,
and is about three miles inside the bar. It is built on a bench of
land, with an incline towards the water's edge below it, and with
timbered bluffs extending along the bay above and below it, or, as
the bay lies, north and south of it. Opposite to it is a long line of
sand hills, forming a barrier against the sea, which from the
"lookout" on the bluff is plainly visible. Empire City was
founded about the same time with Gardiner and Scottsburg ; indeed,
all the towns in this region appear to have been started about the
same period, from 1850 to 1854. It is a port of entry; is the county
seat of Coos; has a shipyard, a large steam lumbering mill, a
considerable trade in general merchandise, a large court-house, a
fine schoolhouse, one church building, and many pleasant and
comfortable private dwellings, besides good hotels, at one of
which?Mrs. Lockhart's?l tarried, very happily, for several days.
Its population is not more than 300 or 400, and not increasing
rapidly since the falling off in business that followed the
depression of stocks, and the two years of drouth in California. But
a very good class of steamers make regular and frequent trips between
San Francisco and Coos Bay, carrying out the idea advanced before,
that this is a province of California. 
It would affords me pleasure to record here many of my personal
adventures and encounters with agreeable people, were this the proper
place to introduce personal incidents. Suffice it to say, that though
the Coos country is isolated and hardly regrets its distance from and
independence of the rest of Oregon, it is, socially, a very pleasant
spot of earth to fall upon, and one to which we wish a happy and
prosperous future. From Empire, one of several small swift steamers
conveys us up the bay to North Bend, a distance of two or three
miles. This place is entirely a lumbering and shipbuilding point, and
is owned by the Simpson brothers. It has a pretty site, is neatly
built, has neither hotel nor saloon, but contains within itself all
the essentials for the comfort of its people, employers and employed.
The mill has a capacity of 28,000 feet per diem. At this shipyard was
built the beautiful, full-rigged ship, Western Shore. The fine
vessel, the Tam O'Shanter, was also built at this place. The
elegant finishing of these vessels is due in part to the beauty of
the cabinet woods of this region, especially of the myrtle, which for
color and fineness of grain is not surpassed in beauty by any wood in
the world. North Bend has rendered itself famous, and done Oregon
good service in sending forth vessels of this class to advertise her
resources to the world, as well as the talent and enterprise of her
shipbuilders. 


A short distance above North Bend, at the head of the bay proper,
is Marshfield,
the principal town on these waters. It reminds one of Astoria, being
situated on a hillside, and having a considerable portion of its
business houses built upon piling or "made ground." What
its population is it would be difficult to guess ? probably about
600. It has good hotels, several stores of general merchandise, and
the usual supply of special shops, that make a considerable show of
trade; extensive wharves and warehouses, and a general appearance of
prosperity. Lumbering is the chief business carried on here, which
together with shipbuilding employs in ordinary seasons a large number
of men. The present season, however, is less active than any former
one for a long time, though the mill of Dean, Wilcox & Merchantis running on fall time, its capacity being 40,000 feet per day.  
The prodigality with which
nature has adorned the hillsides atMarshfield with the elegant rhododendrons and other
beautiful shrubs was a constant joy to me while I remained there.
With so favorable a climate the wilderness in this region ought to be
made blossom like the rose. There is the mildness and the moisture in
the air that fosters floral beauty, and should I think be equally
favorable to fruit. I learned that the experiment of drying fruit for
market by the Alden process has been begun by Mr. A. B. Culliver
[sic; Collver], who shipped last year $3,000 worth of fruit, mostly
apples, to San Francisco. His apples brought 16 cents per pound. But
with this exception I could not learn of a business of this kind
being carried on. 
All about Coos Bay on Coos river and the several sloughs are
so-called towns; but really they are only small clusters of tenements
erected at different points where some enterprise has been
undertaken, generally where a coal bank has been discovered and
prospected. Where these enterprises have been prosperous, the usual
local improvements have been made, and there are schools and stores.
But excepting at Newport and Eastport there is almost nothing being
done at present in the coal interest. The mines at Henryville, where
a large amount of money has been invested, have proven a failure, and
the costly works are abandoned. Some coal is being taken out at the
Isthmus coal mine, and vessels go to Utter City to load; but the
business has so declined that Utter City is almost wholly deserted,
and its cottages are empty, while its ample hotel is almost without a
guest. 
This condition of affairs at Coos Bay is greatly the result of the
transient habit of the people on this coast, which affects business
everywhere. If there is a rumor that something is doing or may be
done at a certain point, everybody rushes to that point. Often they
are disappointed and fly with just as little reason to some other
point. The people do not adopt the country and determine to make the
best of it, but endeavor to drain it as rapidly as possible and get
away from it. Business, which has been depressed everywhere alike,
will revive by and by, and all the sooner if people instead of
floating about the country will stay where they are and do the best
they can under the circumstances until the tide turns. At least that
is the way it looks to a casual observer like myself. 


Coquille City, though on the Coquille river, belongs to the Coos
Bay country, and is a promising new town, in a pretty valley, with a
navigable river of its own. The inhabitants with commendable
enterprise are endeavoring to build jetties at the mouth of the river
to keep open the channel and insure navigation. This is done by
private subscription and with money raised by entertainments,
including a grand Fourth of July celebration, and will I hope prove a
permanent good to the country. Efforts of this kind that show the
people have come to stay and "mean business," are the
results that in time will win the recognition and success that will
repay those investing in the work. 


This is but a brief account of a rather superficial survey of what
was to me an entirely new country. It was easy to see that its
development had hardly begun, and that when it should be developed it
would be a country of no ordinary resources. What it greatly needs is
easy communication with the interior and a population of a settled
character. From some notes I made I copy these few figures: Value of
real and personal property in Coos county, $ 1,315,562; indebtedness
and exemptions, $392,282; taxable property, $921,280; number of
persons subject to poll tax, 1,000. The number of horses given in was
22,552, and of cattle 96,310; while of sheep there were only 3,820,
and of swine 3,572?which shows the country to be a stock country to
a considerable extent, yet not pre-eminently so. In the future, when
the forest has given way to the woodman's ax, stock and dairying will
become the leading business after the mining interests. 

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr

 Robyn
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sun Feb  7 08:02:55 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:02:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] coos count history story / coal mining
In-Reply-To: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEGEKFCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Robyn;

It is interesting to listen to narratives from a time when these communities were so small they were seperated by significant distance. We ate somewhere in Coos Bay a while back (Pancake Mill?) that had a bunch of historical photos and unlike so many other places some of these were captioned so you knew what you were seeing. I believe it was Broadway as a puncheon road that really caught my eye, all it was was a row of squared timbers laid side by side in a through cut with nary a structure in sight.

Also you have seen this I assume;

Stars in the Dark: Coal Mines of Southwestern Oregon by Dow Beckham (1995)

I remember when we went through the area in 1957, mom mentioning that the piling and so forth across the slough from where 42 crosses Davis slough had been a coal mine. A few years later the subject came up again when there was an attempt to discover oil in the area. But I had no idea how much mining and exploration for coal had gone on until reading Dow's book.

It is sort of like old sawmill sites in so much of Oregon. I have been places that look like man had never set foot there before me in so many parts of Oregon, only to discover here was an old mill site, and over yonder up that draw was another one and so on. Coal mines in the Coos Bay area are the same way. Pretty much from Hauser to Coquille and part way to Bandon on 101 you never get very far from one. 

The county annex in North Bend has an old mine directly underneath it that burned for a long time. I think about that every once and a while as I drive by, it would be extremely awkward if it caved in some day.

Les




From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  7 08:06:32 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:06:32 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
References: <f288.249f5b0e.389f67fe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7BA05AB46752489D846BAD16B6762B26@AroundHome>

Lewis L Cooper Donation Land Claim # 4485.           320.38 Acres

          Sec 29, 32, T8S R 5W Polk Co, OR 

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James Lindsay Cooper    Donation Land Claim         320. Acres

          Sec 21, 28, T8S R5W Polk Co, OR 

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Harben Cooper       Donation Land Claim              320. Acres

          Sec 29, T8S R5W Polk Co, OR 

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Walter J Matney  Donation Land Claim  643.14 Acres (Husband of Julia Ann Cooper)

          Sec 23, 26, T8S R5W Polk Co, OR 

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*note: There is a DLC adjoining these on map labeled I S Cooper. 

There is mention in Monmouth newspaper of a Charles Cooper who farmed at Cooper

Hollow. These names do not fit into the above families. 
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  7 08:21:15 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:21:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] coos count history story / coal mining
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEGEKFCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEGEKFCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <529279.23097.qm@web112414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The Pancake Mill (North Bend) is the place where you saw the photos, and they do have a nice collection. If you get time though, you really ought to drop by Denny's Pizza in Coquille. They have a significant number of Jack Slatery photos of the area, mostly logging, railroads and river shots - all are enlarged to about 18x24 and mounted on hard backings and identified. They are for sale, but looks are still free!

I have read Stars in the Dark - it's a great story. Hadn't heard about the County Annex - what a riot!

I've found 3 or 4 other very old accounts of early Coos county (Coose County) and will be sharing those soon.

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)




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From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 8:02:55 AM
Subject: [or-roots] coos count history story / coal mining

Robyn;

It is interesting to listen to narratives from a time when these communities were so small they were seperated by significant distance. We ate somewhere in Coos Bay a while back (Pancake Mill?) that had a bunch of historical photos and unlike so many other places some of these were captioned so you knew what you were seeing. I believe it was Broadway as a puncheon road that really caught my eye, all it was was a row of squared timbers laid side by side in a through cut with nary a structure in sight.

Also you have seen this I assume;

Stars in the Dark: Coal Mines of Southwestern Oregon by Dow Beckham (1995)

I remember when we went through the area in 1957, mom mentioning that the piling and so forth across the slough from where 42 crosses Davis slough had been a coal mine. A few years later the subject came up again when there was an attempt to discover oil in the area. But I had no idea how much mining and exploration for coal had gone on until reading Dow's book.

It is sort of like old sawmill sites in so much of Oregon. I have been places that look like man had never set foot there before me in so many parts of Oregon, only to discover here was an old mill site, and over yonder up that draw was another one and so on. Coal mines in the Coos Bay area are the same way. Pretty much from Hauser to Coquille and part way to Bandon on 101 you never get very far from one. 

The county annex in North Bend has an old mine directly underneath it that burned for a long time. I think about that every once and a while as I drive by, it would be extremely awkward if it caved in some day.

Les


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From LinLouVan at aol.com  Sun Feb  7 09:53:33 2010
From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:53:33 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Coos Bay article - and more in CDNC newspapers
Message-ID: <6ded.c1ffe77.38a0581d@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/7/2010 6:20:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com writes:

_http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr_ (http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr)  
Robyn
_rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com_ (http://rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com/) 




Thank you, Robyn, for including this link in your submission about Coos  
Bay.
 
Looking at the California newspapers for "Junction City, Oregon", brought  
up some interesting information: 
 
Sacramento Daily Union 23 August 1880
    "N. Griswold killed himself at Junction City,  Oregon, Thursday"
 
Sacramento Daily Union 20 September 1878
    "At Junction City, Oregon, yesterday, a widow named  Pitney met with a 
terrible death."
 
San Francisco Call, 8 July 1890
    "James Castel, an old resident of Junction City,  Oregon, died with 
apoplexy last Sunday, caused by drinking glass after glass of  iced water."
 
Now, if these don't get me into research projects, I can't imagine what  
would.
Linda VanOrden
Junction City, Oregon
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  7 10:02:00 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:02:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Coos Bay article - and more in CDNC newspapers
In-Reply-To: <6ded.c1ffe77.38a0581d@aol.com>
References: <6ded.c1ffe77.38a0581d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <368989.73040.qm@web112407.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Linda-

You'll have to keep us posted on what you find on the Junction City stories!

Glad you enjoyed the link and the postings.

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  8 16:00:01 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:00:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Another description of the trip from Drain to Coos Bay
Message-ID: <836020.67551.qm@web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


THROUGH
RAIN AND SAND.  
Rough Experience of Ex-Governor Perkins and Party in Oregon
A Tramp of Twelve Miles In the Teeth of a Gale on a Wild Beach?One
Man Exhausted. 
The San Francisco Post of last evening says that ex-Governor
Perkins, Captain Nelson and C. M. Goodall have returned from a trip
through Southern Oregon, where they encountered some of the roughest experiences of their
lives. They left here shortly before the recent southeast storm and
calculated making their trip before the rains set in. They went
overland by rail as far as Drains [sic], where they took a stage and
traveled thirty-five miles over a road all cut to pieces by the
rains. 
The  passengers, with the lives almost  jolted out of them, were
finally landed at Scotsburg, whence, after only a few hours' rest,
they embarked on a little steamer and sailed down the Umpqua River to
the ocean. At this point there was a two-horse stage waiting to take
the passengers down to Coos Bay along a beach twenty-two miles long.
It had been raining thus far incessantly all along the road, but when
the travelers reached the beach it seemed that it had never rained so
hard. Beside the San Francisco people there was a minister and
another passenger. The wind was blowing from the southeast right in
the faces of those in the wagon at something like sixty miles an hour
and the sand covered them, blowing up from the beach with the force
of a simoon [sic]. At Ten-mile River the jaded animals gave out and could
not proceed any further under the heavy load. The passengers all got
out and attempted to walk on while the team rested. 
The rain and flying sand almost blinded them, and it was
impossible to make headway against the storm. The driver gave his
horses half an hour's rest and then went on. The wearied passengers
sensibly got behind the wagon and this gave them some protection from
the sand and rain. 
It was finally decided to send the driver on ahead to get fresh
horses, and it looked as it the party would have to camp out all
night on the bleak and barren beach. The tide was supposed to be low,
but every other beaker rolled the surf higher up on the sand and
forced the team and the travelers up among the driftwood. 
At times the men were almost up to their waists in the water.
Governor Perkins dropped behind one time, and in attempting to reach
the wagon again, which was only fifty yards ahead, he was well nigh
exhausted. The men took turns in driving, and on and on they went,
never knowing what moment they were going to be hemmed in by the
ocean. 
With the sea on one side and sand on the other the trip must have
been a delightful one. The driver kept on and was soon lost to sight.
His objective point was the cabin on the Coos Bay beach opposite Empire City,
where he lived and kept his horses. He reached the door and fell in a
dead faint. When he had been brought to, fresh horses were given him
and he started back, but 100 yards out he met the party almost dead
from fatigue. 
The trip to Empire was completed in a row boat across Coos Bay. In getting back to
Drains the party had sixty-five miles of staging out of Myrtle Point,
and they spent twenty-four hours in a hardriding mud-wagon. The
gentlemen are very glad to get back to San Francisco.
 Robyn
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb  8 18:28:47 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:28:47 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Another description of the trip from Drain to Coos
	Bay
In-Reply-To: <836020.67551.qm@web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEIEKOCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

I believe if you read carefully the distances in this article are a little different than the ones quoted in the earlier article; I think this one is closer to correct. As the crow flies today it is about 22 miles from the mouth of the Umpqua to the Coos Bay Bar and I believe the end of the stage line was a bit back this way.

Les



From jjwalliswhite at gmail.com  Mon Feb  8 18:50:08 2010
From: jjwalliswhite at gmail.com (Judy White)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:50:08 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] North Powder Cemetery
Message-ID: <75ba8aa61002081850u3334075fyf1706872479a69b1@mail.gmail.com>

Belva spent part of her vacation this year updating the North Powder
Cemetery in Union County, Oregon.
http://www.oregongenealogy.com/union/north_powder_cemetery.htm  You can view
the census, photographs and obits for that county.  Enjoy and please pass
the new information on to others.

Judy

-- 
Native American Genealogy http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/
AccessGenealogy http://www.accessgenealogy.com/
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Feb  9 18:10:34 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:10:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
In-Reply-To: <7BA05AB46752489D846BAD16B6762B26@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <1944955590.1965581265767834486.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Just got home from the Coast at Newport, saw a book in the Newport Book store just of 101 on Hurburt Street, That has Matney Info in it Forget the name of the book now and did not have anything to write on, but it was a history type of book, would have bought it but had already spent to much money.
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  9 19:02:28 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:02:28 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
References: <1944955590.1965581265767834486.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <509F292BB1A342F58FA8F2EED60E08DA@AroundHome>

Would be nice to know where the book is and how much I will see if I can get it.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Glen Jones 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 6:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Just got home from the Coast at Newport, saw a book in the Newport Book store just of 101 on Hurburt Street, That has Matney Info in it Forget the name of the book now and did not have anything to write on, but it was a history type of book, would have bought it but had already spent to much money.
  Glen Jones Portland


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From whizinc at comcast.net  Tue Feb  9 20:06:29 2010
From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:06:29 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
In-Reply-To: <509F292BB1A342F58FA8F2EED60E08DA@AroundHome>
References: <1944955590.1965581265767834486.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<509F292BB1A342F58FA8F2EED60E08DA@AroundHome>
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<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=17042952618732619709&q=bookstore&gl=u
s&cd=3&cad=src:pplink&ei=PTByS5GVA4bIsAPg1c2DAQ&sig2=mKHl3-GLZKuvj5pvbzP-Ag>
Newport Book Center? unstarred
<http://maps.gstatic.com/intl/en_us/mapfiles/transparent.png> -
<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=17042952618732619709&q=bookstore&gl=u
s&cd=3&cad=src:pplink&ei=PTByS5GVA4bIsAPg1c2DAQ&sig2=mKHl3-GLZKuvj5pvbzP-Ag>
more info ?
823 Southwest Hurbert Street, Newport, OR? -   (541) 265-8971?

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From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:02 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


Would be nice to know where the book is and how much I will see if I can get
it.
Dan M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Glen  <mailto:glenkc7mbm at comcast.net> Jones 
To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO

Just got home from the Coast at Newport, saw a book in the Newport Book
store just of 101 on Hurburt Street, That has Matney Info in it Forget the
name of the book now and did not have anything to write on, but it was a
history type of book, would have bought it but had already spent to much
money.
Glen Jones Portland 



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From whizinc at comcast.net  Tue Feb  9 20:48:23 2010
From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 20:48:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] California Digital Newspapers Collection
In-Reply-To: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8D08DEADDE0B4AEFB3AFE087B86EF525@HP>

Hi Robyn,
I almost missed a treasure trove of information.  I'm loving the articles
and decided to click on the link below  <http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr>
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr and found myself at the California Digital
Newspapers Collection.  I'm glad I did.  I had no idea the California
Digital Newspapers Collection existed.
Thank you very much.  
Ronda


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From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Robyn
Greenlund
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 6:21 AM
To: OR-Coos; OR-Roots
Subject: [or-roots] Pacific Rural Press - Coos Bay article





 ....

 
http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr


 
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 10 05:37:12 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:37:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Digital Newspapers Collection
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So glad you did. Surprisingly, each state has at least one of these digital newspaper collections now (I've been told), as do several other places. There is one on Google, one at the Library of Congress, Ancestry has a series as do genealogybank, footnote and worldvitalrecords. One of my favorite ones is a private collection in upstate New York (which I can remember the name of at the moment). Over 6 million pages on that one when last I checked. Would it be helpful if I created a web page on Genealogytrails with these digital newspapers on on web page to make them easier to find?  Or perhaps on a site like Linkpendium.com?

This past week I've been steadily going through the ones on the California Digital Newspaper collection and have been transcribing every article I can find that deals with "Empire City". I will be putting these online on genealogytrails very soon so others will be able to find them. If anyone else has clippings they have found that are particularly interesting that they have read, but don't want to transcribe, if you will send me the link to the article I would be happy to transcribe it and post it both here and online for others to see.

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
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From: Steve & Ronda Howard <whizinc at comcast.net>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 8:48:23 PM
Subject: [or-roots] California Digital Newspapers Collection

 
Hi Robyn,
I almost missed a treasure trove of 
information.  I'm loving the articles and decided to click 
on the link below http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr and found myself at 
the California Digital Newspapers Collection.  I'm glad I did.  I had 
no idea the California Digital Newspapers Collection 
existed.
Thank you very much.  
Ronda


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Greenlund
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 6:21 AM
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Subject: [or-roots] Pacific Rural Press - Coos Bay 
article


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http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr

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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Wed Feb 10 06:07:16 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:07:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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Thank You Ronda for giving Dan the address, wish I could remember the name of the book now, I know the price was $25.00, and had a note in it that there were two editions found online that were being sold for $75.00, the reason it caught my eye was the discussion here on the listserver.
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb 10 10:36:08 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:36:08 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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ok, what was the name of the book.
thanks
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Newport Book Center? - more info ?
  823 Southwest Hurbert Street, Newport, OR? -   (541) 265-8971?
   
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Wed Feb 10 10:40:35 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:40:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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Dan
Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the book
 and I did not have anything to write it down on.
Glen
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From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net  Wed Feb 10 11:06:14 2010
From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:06:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] NYTimes.com: Genealogy for a Nation of Immigrants
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Some may be interested in this article/program. 



"Faces of America ," beginning on Wednesday on PBS, is a four-part series, hosted by the Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. that traces the family roots of celebrities. 



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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/arts/television/10faces.html?emc=eta1 



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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb 10 11:16:18 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:16:18 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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Ok.
Thanks....
I like my cell fone has a notes icon ;)
I get caught with out note pads too .
Well maybe some how we will figure out what book it was.
I found an old soldiers book once was 105 $ and it had my Henry Rogers in it, I borrowed money and it was gone.

Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Glen Jones 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Dan
  Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the book
   and I did not have anything to write it down on.
  Glen


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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 11:34:20 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:34:20 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co
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 Is this any one who has access to land records in this time span for Lake Co ?
I am trying to findout who was recorded here before me.
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Wed Feb 10 11:42:30 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:42:30 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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Perhaps if you call the number that Rhonda gave you and explain Glen's remembrance that the price was $25 and had a note about two editions online being sold for $75.00.  That has Matney Info in it  (forget the name of the book now and did not have anything to write on) but it was a history type of book.  The bookstore may know what book it is without too much effort.  If it was a book I was interested in I'd sure give it a try.

Newport Book Center? - more info ?
823 Southwest Hurbert Street, Newport, OR? -   (541) 265-8971?


Thank You Ronda for giving Dan the address, wish I could remember the name of the book now, I know the price was $25.00, and had a note in it that there were two editions found online that were being sold for $75.00, the reason it caught my eye was the discussion here on the listserver.
Glen Jones Portland
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DanM. 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Ok.
  Thanks....
  I like my cell fone has a notes icon ;)
  I get caught with out note pads too .
  Well maybe some how we will figure out what book it was.
  I found an old soldiers book once was 105 $ and it had my Henry Rogers in it, I borrowed money and it was gone.

  Dan M
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Glen Jones 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:40 AM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


    Dan
    Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the book
     and I did not have anything to write it down on.
    Glen 


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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 11:48:53 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:48:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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I planned on that just as soon as I finish my chores.
Dan  :))) thanks.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Steward 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Perhaps if you call the number that Rhonda gave you and explain Glen's remembrance that the price was $25 and had a note about two editions online being sold for $75.00.  That has Matney Info in it  (forget the name of the book now and did not have anything to write on) but it was a history type of book.  The bookstore may know what book it is without too much effort.  If it was a book I was interested in I'd sure give it a try. 
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From PMML at MERITEL.NET  Wed Feb 10 12:01:04 2010
From: PMML at MERITEL.NET (Marsha BradleyLuthy)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:01:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Marsha Bradley-Luthy <pmml at meritel.net>wrote:

> i KNOW SOME OF THE HARRIS WERE OVER INDEPENDEDENCE OH BY THE WAY THE
> HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS INFORMATION ON THEM.  then you can find them at
> dufur.  I have a
> listing for some there as well.  My family was at 7 mile.  Hey les did you
> try china cemetery for Matney * Index of Biographical Sketches from
> Volumes 1-12 of the Table Rock Sentinel *Shows harris
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" <
> dharguess at coastline.edu>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:33 AM
>  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
>
>
> Where were the Harris' from originally?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of DanM.
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:55 PM
>> To: or-roots mail list
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
>>
>> Well shucks no Matney LOL.
>> My wife has Harris how about the William Harris ?
>> Dan M
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
>> To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Remembrance of Marion County
>>
>>
>> I should have done this earlier, but here is the index, for what it is
>>> worth.  I say that because it is far from complete -- especially where
>>>
>>
>> wives
>>> and children were concerned. But here goes:
>>>
>> > Harris, William
>>
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From PMML at MERITEL.NET  Wed Feb 10 12:09:17 2010
From: PMML at MERITEL.NET (Marsha BradleyLuthy)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:09:17 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
In-Reply-To: <AF8F4A324F89415A82669F804FD3FBE0@AroundHome>
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have i mentioned i have a cooper book at home with listing
of entire family of coopers. Since coopers are not my line
not to intrested but every one else mmight?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:

>  Ok.
> Thanks....
> I like my cell fone has a notes icon ;)
> I get caught with out note pads too .
> Well maybe some how we will figure out what book it was.
> I found an old soldiers book once was 105 $ and it had my Henry Rogers in
> it, I borrowed money and it was gone.
>
> Dan M
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Glen Jones <glenkc7mbm at comcast.net>
> *To:* or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>  *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
>
>  Dan
> Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the book
>  and I did not have anything to write it down on.
> Glen
>
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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Wed Feb 10 12:16:06 2010
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:16:06 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co
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Dan,

Take  your land description to the Title Office in Lakeview.  AmeriTitle,  405 1st Street North, Lakeview   541-947-3019.  Or maybe you can call them.

The office is just up the street east of what used to be Thorntons Drug Store in Lakeview, which is kitty-corner across from the Indian Village Restuarant.

No luck on the BLM site?  

I won't be going back to Lakeview for some time.....not planned anyway.  

Privately e-mail me your land description, so if I do happen to be going to Lakeview, I can take a run in to the Title office.  They are a great bunch of gals there and very helpful.  

After the original owner -- maybe 2 or 3 down the line, then go to the County Clerks office and she has all the transcriptions there.  They, too, are super helpful.

Diane


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan M 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co


   Is this any one who has access to land records in this time span for Lake Co ?
  I am trying to findout who was recorded here before me.
  Dan M


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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 12:26:28 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:26:28 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
References: <832549580.2235851265827235680.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><AF8F4A324F89415A82669F804FD3FBE0@AroundHome>
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If it has my line I will be very interested.
I can post our coopers
Cooper   Lewis L            1796          44  Martha J                1840          OR Donation Land Claim

                James L            1824          34  Docie                1858                        census & descs

                John R W     1850          42  Harben             1892                              "

                Nancy Moon     1856          40  Edith M            1896/7                     "

                Tom F M Moon          1849          47  Edith M            1896                              "

Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha BradleyLuthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  have i mentioned i have a cooper book at home with listing 
  of entire family of coopers. Since coopers are not my line 
  not to intrested but every one else mmight?


  On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:

    Ok.
    Thanks....
    I like my cell fone has a notes icon ;)
    I get caught with out note pads too .
    Well maybe some how we will figure out what book it was.
    I found an old soldiers book once was 105 $ and it had my Henry Rogers in it, I borrowed money and it was gone.

    Dan M
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Glen Jones 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:40 AM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


      Dan
      Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the book
       and I did not have anything to write it down on.
      Glen 


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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 12:28:23 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:28:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co
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thanks
I was hoping by now there would be something easier than a 100+ mile drive.
 I will call tho.
Dan M = thanks.;)
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  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co


  Dan,

  Take  your land description to the Title Office in Lakeview.  AmeriTitle,  405 1st Street North, Lakeview   541-947-3019.  Or maybe you can call them. 
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 14:23:35 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:23:35 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
References: <832549580.2235851265827235680.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><AF8F4A324F89415A82669F804FD3FBE0@AroundHome>
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 I made an error.
Its been so long since I saw the headstone picture I thought it was I.O.F.
Wrong - my applogies.
Its
O.O.F.

All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and 44 wis.inf.
thats where I had the memory that I thought was 1844.
SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont know is why no death date?
Why no records of the burial if there is a stone and how do I find out any thing more?
The picture is 18kb if any one wants a copy.
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb 10 14:37:27 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:37:27 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
References: <832549580.2235851265827235680.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><AF8F4A324F89415A82669F804FD3FBE0@AroundHome><6cb1312c1002101209x7d6a7327pfa9efb252581165f@mail.gmail.com>
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A little more on Henry Rogers. For now no middle initial, but as I find more things I will see if I have it. I have found this note ; 
This Rogers was in the civil war 1864-65 16 years old.



When I find the copies from the book I will see if they put in a middle initial, this some time is a key item. As is the first name in papers like in a certain year Sheriff Matney HUH? What Matney was that <G>?

   I looked in that paper online and found Henry H Matney was with the Standard Oil co, death about the same as mine. No middle initial put this off in left field for me fo r now.

Dan M - lost in cyberspace.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan M 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error


   I made an error.
  Its been so long since I saw the headstone picture I thought it was I.O.F.
  Wrong - my applogies.
  Its
  O.O.F.

  All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and 44 wis.inf.
  thats where I had the memory that I thought was 1844.
  SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont know is why no death date?
  Why no records of the burial if there is a stone and how do I find out any thing more?
  The picture is 18kb if any one wants a copy.
  Dan M = 


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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb 10 15:08:04 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:08:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers
References: <832549580.2235851265827235680.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><AF8F4A324F89415A82669F804FD3FBE0@AroundHome><6cb1312c1002101209x7d6a7327pfa9efb252581165f@mail.gmail.com>
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here is a page I did a long time ago.
http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/Rogers.html
this is all I know on my Rogers.

Dan M
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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Wed Feb 10 15:14:55 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:14:55 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
Message-ID: <15db9.588d92cc.38a497ef@aol.com>

Is this the book that you mentioned having James  Fenimore Cooper in it? I 
was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather Nathaniel  Pada Cooper from 
upstate NY.
Carroll Cooper Summers
Carrollouc at aol.com
 
have i mentioned i have a cooper book at home with listing 
of entire family of coopers. Since coopers are not my line 
not to intrested but every one else mmight?


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DanM. <_mygen2 at d-matney.com_ 
(mailto:mygen2 at d-matney.com) >  wrote:


Ok.
Thanks....
I like my cell fone has a notes icon  ;)
I get caught with out note pads too  .
Well maybe some how we will figure out what  book it was.
I found an old soldiers book once was 105 $ and  it had my Henry Rogers in 
it, I borrowed money and it was gone.
 
Dan M

 
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To: _or-roots  mail list_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)  

 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010  10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney  DLC Plok CO





Dan
Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the  book
and I did not have anything to write it down on.
Glen  

 
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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Wed Feb 10 15:27:27 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:27:27 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
Message-ID: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>

Recently my son and I located a Civil War headstone on  private property in 
Baker Co. for a great grand uncle. It too had no date, just  rank and 
company. I sent a photo of it to David Samuelson and he located from  NARA (I 
think) a card showing the same information plus a date. Why it was not  on the 
stone is a mystery. The govt. supplied CW headstones from about 1864 to  
1903 and this one was on the pinkish side. My grandson, who had recently  
finished a five year enlistment with the OR Ntl Guard recognized it as a  
military headstone as soon as he saw the photo we took. If you have Ancestry you  
can see a copy of the card by searching for James FitzJames Cooper (J.F.J.  
COOPER on the headstone). His is the last card shown.
Carroll Cooper Summers
 
I made an error.
Its been so long since I saw the headstone  picture I thought it was I.O.F.
Wrong - my applogies.
Its
O.O.F.
 
All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and  44 wis.inf.
thats where I had the memory that I thought was  1844.
SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont  know is why no death date?
Why no records of the burial if there is a stone  and how do I find out any 
thing more?
The picture is 18kb if any one wants a  copy.
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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Wed Feb 10 15:49:15 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:49:15 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
In-Reply-To: <C25EC4FD4B344CDC9A8E833F4F55BB73@AroundHome>
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Dan

 

Could you send me the photo?

 

Pat

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:24 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error

 

 I made an error.

Its been so long since I saw the headstone picture I thought it was I.O.F.

Wrong - my applogies.

Its

O.O.F.

 

All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and 44 wis.inf.

thats where I had the memory that I thought was 1844.

SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont know is why no death date?

Why no records of the burial if there is a stone and how do I find out any
thing more?

The picture is 18kb if any one wants a copy.

Dan M = 

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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Wed Feb 10 15:58:02 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:58:02 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
In-Reply-To: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>
References: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009101caaaac$e1587cd0$a4097670$@net>

I was thinking along these lines as well, and I've seen quite a few of these
with only the military information, no B-D dates at all.

 

I think they are generally placed by some organization, which may be where
the OOF comes in. 

 

The question would be, who is buried near this stone???

 

Pat

In Tucson 

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
CARROLLOUC at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:27 PM
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error

 

Recently my son and I located a Civil War headstone on private property in
Baker Co. for a great grand uncle. It too had no date, just rank and
company. I sent a photo of it to David Samuelson and he located from NARA (I
think) a card showing the same information plus a date. Why it was not on
the stone is a mystery. The govt. supplied CW headstones from about 1864 to
1903 and this one was on the pinkish side. My grandson, who had recently
finished a five year enlistment with the OR Ntl Guard recognized it as a
military headstone as soon as he saw the photo we took. If you have Ancestry
you can see a copy of the card by searching for James FitzJames Cooper
(J.F.J. COOPER on the headstone). His is the last card shown.

Carroll Cooper Summers

 I made an error.

Its been so long since I saw the headstone picture I thought it was I.O.F.

Wrong - my applogies.

Its

O.O.F.

 

All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and 44 wis.inf.

thats where I had the memory that I thought was 1844.

SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont know is why no death date?

Why no records of the burial if there is a stone and how do I find out any
thing more?

The picture is 18kb if any one wants a copy.

Dan M = 



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From bevr at fmtc.com  Wed Feb 10 17:29:22 2010
From: bevr at fmtc.com (Bev Reinhardt)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:29:22 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
References: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>
	<009101caaaac$e1587cd0$a4097670$@net>
Message-ID: <5AB64E8FA6E94D0F9E62059927659FA4@beverlyde7fbec>

I recently had occasion to try to find an acronym and ran into the following web site.  Very interesting, especially if you look for IOOF.   8^)

http://www.acronymfinder.com/

Bev Reinhardt
Fruitland, ID
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kith-n-Kin 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error


  I was thinking along these lines as well, and I've seen quite a few of these with only the military information, no B-D dates at all.

   

  I think they are generally placed by some organization, which may be where the OOF comes in. 

   

  The question would be, who is buried near this stone???

   

  Pat

  In Tucson 

   

  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of CARROLLOUC at aol.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:27 PM
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error

   

  Recently my son and I located a Civil War headstone on private property in Baker Co. for a great grand uncle. It too had no date, just rank and company. I sent a photo of it to David Samuelson and he located from NARA (I think) a card showing the same information plus a date. Why it was not on the stone is a mystery. The govt. supplied CW headstones from about 1864 to 1903 and this one was on the pinkish side. My grandson, who had recently finished a five year enlistment with the OR Ntl Guard recognized it as a military headstone as soon as he saw the photo we took. If you have Ancestry you can see a copy of the card by searching for James FitzJames Cooper (J.F.J. COOPER on the headstone). His is the last card shown.

  Carroll Cooper Summers

     I made an error.

    Its been so long since I saw the headstone picture I thought it was I.O.F.

    Wrong - my applogies.

    Its

    O.O.F.

     

    All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and 44 wis.inf.

    thats where I had the memory that I thought was 1844.

    SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont know is why no death date?

    Why no records of the burial if there is a stone and how do I find out any thing more?

    The picture is 18kb if any one wants a copy.

    Dan M = 



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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Wed Feb 10 18:10:17 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:10:17 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
In-Reply-To: <5AB64E8FA6E94D0F9E62059927659FA4@beverlyde7fbec>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKELKCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Order of Foresters is the only hit on Bev's link that makes any sense, most
oof's there are computerese.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Bev
Reinhardt
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:29 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error


I recently had occasion to try to find an acronym and ran into the following
web site.  Very interesting, especially if you look for IOOF.   8^)

http://www.acronymfinder.com/

Bev Reinhardt
Fruitland, ID



From LinLouVan at aol.com  Wed Feb 10 18:12:55 2010
From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:12:55 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
Message-ID: <1b3c5.7b43615b.38a4c1a7@aol.com>



In a message dated 2/10/2010 6:10:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
reedsportchapmans at verizon.net writes:

Order of  Foresters is the only hit on Bev's link that makes any sense, most
oof's  there are computerese.
I didn't read the entire list, but Order of Foresters is usually I.O.F.  
(Independent Order of Foresters), of which I've been a member for many years.  
Maybe there are more than one foresters organizations.
Linda VanOrden
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From bethperryjohnston at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 18:35:22 2010
From: bethperryjohnston at gmail.com (Beth Perry Johnston)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:35:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
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References: <5AB64E8FA6E94D0F9E62059927659FA4@beverlyde7fbec>
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Leslie Chapman <
reedsportchapmans at verizon.net> wrote:

> Order of Foresters is the only hit on Bev's link that makes any sense, most
> oof's there are computerese.
>

I found Independent Order of Odd Fellows there, too. That one makes sense to
me.

Beth


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From PMML at MERITEL.NET  Wed Feb 10 19:11:56 2010
From: PMML at MERITEL.NET (Marsha BradleyLuthy)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:11:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
In-Reply-To: <C25EC4FD4B344CDC9A8E833F4F55BB73@AroundHome>
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Found a ged file on Cooper see attached

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Dan M <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:

>   I made an error.
> Its been so long since I saw the headstone picture I thought it was I.O.F.
> Wrong - my applogies.
> Its
> O.O.F.
>
> All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and 44 wis.inf.
> thats where I had the memory that I thought was 1844.
> SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont know is why no death date?
> Why no records of the burial if there is a stone and how do I find out any
> thing more?
> The picture is 18kb if any one wants a copy.
> Dan M =
>
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 19:18:12 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:18:12 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
References: <15db9.588d92cc.38a497ef@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C904F8ABA9DC45599EC4D100A1DEA7CB@AroundHome>

I am making a book shelf tomorrow and will be getting those books out.
I will scan it if there is any thing in there.
I will see if I can find the book in the morning light.
and post before I make the shelf of course :)
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Is this the book that you mentioned having James Fenimore Cooper in it? I was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather Nathaniel Pada Cooper from upstate NY.
  Carroll Cooper Summers
  Carrollouc at aol.com
    have i mentioned i have a cooper book at home with listing 
    of entire family of coopers. Since coopers are not my line 
    not to intrested but every one else mmight?


    On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:

      Ok.
      Thanks....
      I like my cell fone has a notes icon ;)
      I get caught with out note pads too .
      Well maybe some how we will figure out what book it was.
      I found an old soldiers book once was 105 $ and it had my Henry Rogers in it, I borrowed money and it was gone.

      Dan M
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Glen Jones 
        To: or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:40 AM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


        Dan
        Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the book
         and I did not have anything to write it down on.
        Glen 


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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Wed Feb 10 19:19:46 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:19:46 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] attachments
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i was gonna post a gentle reminder that attachments get stripped by the list
server, but just for laughs I checked first, and they don't anymore??

So whoever this is meant for; it's really there.

Les



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 19:27:14 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:27:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] attachments
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well it is my cooper line.

now back to the Rogers stone ?
I guess I will send a pic to Dave.
Any one else know how to research this stuff.
I am on batteries and have a time limit.
I could switch to my phone as well.

Dan M
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>i was gonna post a gentle reminder that attachments get stripped by the 
>list
> server, but just for laughs I checked first, and they don't anymore??
>
> So whoever this is meant for; it's really there.
>
> Les
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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 10 21:09:38 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:09:38 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] attachments
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Dan M wrote:

> I guess I will send a pic to Dave. 


Why not post it to the list, if attachments are going though?   :-)

Bill



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 10 22:05:59 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:05:59 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] attachments
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If I don't catch it grin;))
Dan M
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> Dan M wrote:
> 
>> I guess I will send a pic to Dave. 
> 
> 
> Why not post it to the list, if attachments are going though?   :-)
> 
> Bill
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From rayp6217 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 10 22:47:25 2010
From: rayp6217 at comcast.net (Ray Powell)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:47:25 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] attachments Rogers Wis Inf
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKELMCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><B30A731665A54BD38D3AF5FEC47255BC@AroundHome><4B739112.9040807@earthlink.net>
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I've tried following this thread and when I see the photo I can't see where 
you find 1844. It has already been mentioned mentioned that there was a 44th 
Wisconsin Infantry and that it wasn't formed until Autumn of 1864. Since the 
headstone does not give any date that I can see, I would be inclined to 
believe that this Rogers was alive long past 1844 and since they did not see 
any real action (see 
http://www.secondwi.com/wisconsinregiments/44th%20wisconsin%20infantry.htm ) 
it would stand to reason that he was still alive after the war even though 
out of the roughly 1100 soldiers 57 of them died during the Civil war. The 
44th was disbanded about the 1st of September, 1865.

I just thought I would put my two cents worth into the discussion.

Ray Powell


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] attachments


> If I don't catch it grin;))
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] attachments
>
>
>> Dan M wrote:
>>
>>> I guess I will send a pic to Dave.
>>
>>
>> Why not post it to the list, if attachments are going though?   :-)
>>
>> Bill
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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 11 10:07:13 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:07:13 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
In-Reply-To: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>
References: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B744751.6060905@earthlink.net>

I thought this undated marker appeared more like a footstone, 
recognizing the military service, and a separate, perhaps wooden, 
headstone had the birth and death info, and over the years the headstone 
has been damaged or sunk.

Bill Strickland


From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 10:32:29 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:32:29 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] attachments Rogers Wis Inf
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKELMCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><B30A731665A54BD38D3AF5FEC47255BC@AroundHome><4B739112.9040807@earthlink.net><F37962D30D2C4F3BAD4647A9001FD172@AroundHome>
	<6184450AFA07462480931F68E7566178@DELL6217>
Message-ID: <39F18DB5D60942D6A11FA6C6C5B12822@AroundHome>

I posted my error some time ago.
Then my website link.
   there have been a lot of life things went on since I last did any thing 
on my genealogy.
My Rogers have always been on the back burner since forever and now I am 
just beginning to get back going again.
  Hey thanks for the link.
Dan M
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From: "Ray Powell" <rayp6217 at comcast.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] attachments Rogers Wis Inf


> I've tried following this thread and when I see the photo I can't see 
> where you find 1844. It has already been mentioned mentioned that there 
> was a 44th Wisconsin Infantry and that it wasn't formed until Autumn of 
> 1864. Since the headstone does not give any date that I can see, I would 
> be inclined to believe that this Rogers was alive long past 1844 and since 
> they did not see any real action (see 



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 10:35:11 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:35:11 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers>Henry>Wiss Inf
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEKELMCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net><B30A731665A54BD38D3AF5FEC47255BC@AroundHome>
	<4B739112.9040807@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <D6A62FC4CBF944C5968C5067B87D33C6@AroundHome>

Dave gave me a link and now I have a film number for Henry Rogers
M559 roll 25.

Any one has access it would be nice ;)))
thanks in advance .
Dan - on the desert 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] attachments


> Dan M wrote:
> 
>> I guess I will send a pic to Dave. 
> 
> 
> Why not post it to the list, if attachments are going though?   :-)
> 
> Bill
> 
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 10:40:07 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:40:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
References: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com> <4B744751.6060905@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <7EC4179C475F4A04B21367F2EB547D33@AroundHome>

I would think that. But the plot is cemented over.
I am not a cemetery expert, I have only walked about 3 of them, thats all I 
know ;)
Makes sense, now if I can only find who did it and when.
folks I have moved a lot forwards on this thanks for all the comments.;))))
Dan M
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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error


>I thought this undated marker appeared more like a footstone, recognizing 
>the military service, and a separate, perhaps wooden, headstone had the 
>birth and death info, and over the years the headstone has been damaged or 
>sunk.
>
> Bill Strickland
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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Thu Feb 11 10:57:04 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:57:04 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] rogers photo
In-Reply-To: <A5350750A98F45468377233145877BA9@AroundHome>
References: <A5350750A98F45468377233145877BA9@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <017701caab4c$0083c3e0$018b4ba0$@net>

Dan

Thanks for sending the pic. I think it says "CO. F"

So, altogether it says:

Henry Rogers
Co. F.
44 Wis. Inf.

The shield behind it is indicative of the US. (i.e. the Union) -- same as we
used to use for US highways, and a billion police jurisdictions.

Here's a link to a discussion of such markers:

http://cemeteries.wordpress.com/2006/08/26/military-grave-markers/

and this:

http://www.militaryhistoryinstone.org/history.php 

And here is further information on that:

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/roster/searchresults.asp?lastName=rogers&fir
stName=henry 

And, even more important:

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/roster/results.asp?image_id=2741 

Which is the roster of Co. F of the 44th:

Rogers, Henry. Residence, St. Lawrence, date Oct 15, '64, Corp.; M. O. June
8, '65.

Pat
In Tucson




-----Original Message-----
From: Dan M [mailto:mygenrw2 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:21 PM
To: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net
Subject: RE: rogers photo

Sure .
It would have been just as simple to add a death date I bet <G>
Dan



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 12:24:00 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:24:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] rogers photo
References: <A5350750A98F45468377233145877BA9@AroundHome>
	<017701caab4c$0083c3e0$018b4ba0$@net>
Message-ID: <3D2D56E2C7804E33A54B6A2EDD29EF4B@AroundHome>

well that makes 100% sense ;)
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From: "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] rogers photo


> Dan
>
> Thanks for sending the pic. I think it says "CO. F"
>
> So, altogether it says:
>
> Henry Rogers
> Co. F.
> 44 Wis. Inf.
>
> The shield behind it is indicative of the US. (i.e. the Union) -- same as 
> we
> used to use for US highways, and a billion police jurisdictions.
>
> Here's a link to a discussion of such markers:
>
> http://cemeteries.wordpress.com/2006/08/26/military-grave-markers/
>
> and this:
>
> http://www.militaryhistoryinstone.org/history.php
>
> And here is further information on that:
>
> http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/roster/searchresults.asp?lastName=rogers&fir
> stName=henry
>
> And, even more important:
>
> http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/roster/results.asp?image_id=2741
>
> Which is the roster of Co. F of the 44th:
>
> Rogers, Henry. Residence, St. Lawrence, date Oct 15, '64, Corp.; M. O. 
> June
> 8, '65.
>
> Pat
> In Tucson
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan M [mailto:mygenrw2 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:21 PM
> To: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net
> Subject: RE: rogers photo
>
> Sure .
> It would have been just as simple to add a death date I bet <G>
> Dan
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 12:28:48 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:28:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] rogers photo
References: <A5350750A98F45468377233145877BA9@AroundHome>
	<017701caab4c$0083c3e0$018b4ba0$@net>
Message-ID: <4309D08F52364F72B045A8FFE2C1AA15@AroundHome>

I just dug out some old notes.
Gee, even on this note I did not write it.
I used the pic where at fist glance looked like oof but on the book where I 
got the pages copied from the Salem Lib its Co F and I got all the pages 
copied with all the people and Capt just from the other part. Guess I was 
lucky.
So - now - ? What do we do about learning more about the stone and year and 
time of death?
Good eye.
Dan
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From: "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
To: "'or-roots mail list'" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] rogers photo


> Dan
>
> Thanks for sending the pic. I think it says "CO. F"
>
> So, altogether it says:
>
> Henry Rogers
> Co. F.
> 44 Wis. Inf.
>
> The shield behind it is indicative of the US. (i.e. the Union) -- same as 
> we
> used to use for US highways, and a billion police jurisdictions.
>
> Here's a link to a discussion of such markers:
>
> http://cemeteries.wordpress.com/2006/08/26/military-grave-markers/
>
> and this:
>
> http://www.militaryhistoryinstone.org/history.php
>
> And here is further information on that:
>
> http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/roster/searchresults.asp?lastName=rogers&fir
> stName=henry
>
> And, even more important:
>
> http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/roster/results.asp?image_id=2741
>
> Which is the roster of Co. F of the 44th:
>
> Rogers, Henry. Residence, St. Lawrence, date Oct 15, '64, Corp.; M. O. 
> June
> 8, '65.
>
> Pat
> In Tucson
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan M [mailto:mygenrw2 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:21 PM
> To: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net
> Subject: RE: rogers photo
>
> Sure .
> It would have been just as simple to add a death date I bet <G>
> Dan
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From LinLouVan at aol.com  Thu Feb 11 14:45:11 2010
From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:45:11 EST
Subject: [or-roots] rogers photo
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In a message dated 2/11/2010 10:58:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes:

Thanks  for sending the pic. I think it says "CO. F"

So, altogether it  says:

Henry Rogers
Co. F.
44 Wis. Inf.
 
This is the most rational explanation of the OOF we have seen yet.
My bet is on Co. F
 
Linda VanOrden
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 11 17:58:48 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:58:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] rogers photo
References: <15425.b82fd9d.38a5e277@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4990D63054B949CEB685283EF048E9E9@AroundHome>

Yup, it was easy to spot even in the fuzzy photo one she posted it.I finally found my original film photo and its clear there, but I skipped it I guess because of the all caps.
Well with that and the link I was sent I have all I need on Henry now to keep me busy for a while, thanks folks and also to David who I guess is not on this list.
Dan M
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  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] rogers photo




  In a message dated 2/11/2010 10:58:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes:
    Thanks for sending the pic. I think it says "CO. F"

    So, altogether it says:

    Henry Rogers
    Co. F.
    44 Wis. Inf.

  This is the most rational explanation of the OOF we have seen yet.
  My bet is on Co. F

  Linda VanOrden


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From PMML at MERITEL.NET  Thu Feb 11 19:16:31 2010
From: PMML at MERITEL.NET (Marsha BradleyLuthy)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:16:31 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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Cooper, Etta Rowe<http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Cooper&GScid=38938&GRid=15164829&>
b.
Jan. 5, 1873 d. Oct. 2, 1959*      **Odd Fellows Cemetery, The Dalles, Wasco
County, Ore**gon
*Cooper, George<http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Cooper&GScid=38938&GRid=15164895&>
b.
Mar. 25, 1868 d. Feb. 28, 1959        *Odd Fellows Cemetery, The Dalles,
Wasco County, Oregon**
*

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Dan M <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I am making a book shelf tomorrow and will be getting those books out.
> I will scan it if there is any thing in there.
> I will see if I can find the book in the morning light.
> and post before I make the shelf of course :)
> Dan M
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* CARROLLOUC at aol.com
> *To:* or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
>
> *Is this the book that you mentioned having James Fenimore Cooper in it? I
> was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather Nathaniel Pada Cooper from
> upstate NY.*
> *Carroll Cooper Summers*
> *Carrollouc at aol.com*
>
> have i mentioned i have a cooper book at home with listing
> of entire family of coopers. Since coopers are not my line
> not to intrested but every one else mmight?
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:
>
>>  Ok.
>> Thanks....
>> I like my cell fone has a notes icon ;)
>> I get caught with out note pads too .
>> Well maybe some how we will figure out what book it was.
>> I found an old soldiers book once was 105 $ and it had my Henry Rogers in
>> it, I borrowed money and it was gone.
>>
>> Dan M
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Glen Jones <glenkc7mbm at comcast.net>
>> *To:* or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>  *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:40 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
>>
>>  Dan
>> Sorry to say I do not remember the name of the book
>>  and I did not have anything to write it down on.
>> Glen
>>
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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 11 20:32:11 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:32:11 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] cooper
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I was tring to figure out why I had so much on Julia ann cooper.  So here is what I remembered Leabos, Coopers, Hadleys
and Gribbles all came from MO. and they all basicly came in the same year.  So I searched MO.  and I would recommend 
you do the same for Julia Ann Cooper
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robyn Greenlund 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Digital Newspapers Collection


  So glad you did. Surprisingly, each state has at least one of these digital newspaper collections now (I've been told), as do several other places. There is one on Google, one at the Library of Congress, Ancestry has a series as do genealogybank, footnote and worldvitalrecords. One of my favorite ones is a private collection in upstate New York (which I can remember the name of at the moment). Over 6 million pages on that one when last I checked. Would it be helpful if I created a web page on Genealogytrails with these digital newspapers on on web page to make them easier to find?  Or perhaps on a site like Linkpendium.com?

  This past week I've been steadily going through the ones on the California Digital Newspaper collection and have been transcribing every article I can find that deals with "Empire City". I will be putting these online on genealogytrails very soon so others will be able to find them. If anyone else has clippings they have found that are particularly interesting that they have read, but don't want to transcribe, if you will send me the link to the article I would be happy to transcribe it and post it both here and online for others to see.


  Robyn
  rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

  Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
  coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)






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  To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
  Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 8:48:23 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] California Digital Newspapers Collection


  Hi Robyn,
  I almost missed a treasure trove of information.  I'm loving the articles and decided to click on the link below http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr and found myself at the California Digital Newspapers Collection.  I'm glad I did.  I had no idea the California Digital Newspapers Collection existed.
  Thank you very much.  
  Ronda



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  To: OR-Coos; OR-Roots
  Subject: [or-roots] Pacific Rural Press - Coos Bay article


   ....


  http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr




  Robyn
  rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 12 07:55:28 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:55:28 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] cooper
References: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8D08DEADDE0B4AEFB3AFE087B86EF525@HP><412536.44441.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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 I made a note to put your link on my web site.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Robyn Greenlund
To: or-roots mail list
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Digital Newspapers Collection


So glad you did. Surprisingly, each state has at least one of these digital 
newspaper collections now (I've been told), as do several other places. 
There is one on Google, one at the Library of Congress, Ancestry has a 
series as do genealogybank, footnote and worldvitalrecords. One of my 
favorite ones is a private collection in upstate New York (which I can 
remember the name of at the moment). Over 6 million pages on that one when 
last I checked. Would it be helpful if I created a web page on 
Genealogytrails with these digital newspapers on on web page to make them 
easier to find?  Or perhaps on a site like Linkpendium.com?

This past week I've been steadily going through the ones on the California 
Digital Newspaper collection and have been transcribing every article I can 
find that deals with "Empire City". I will be putting these online on 
genealogytrails very soon so others will be able to find them. If anyone 
else has clippings they have found that are particularly interesting that 
they have read, but don't want to transcribe, if you will send me the link 
to the article I would be happy to transcribe it and post it both here and 
online for others to see.


Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)

 



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Fri Feb 12 08:19:00 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:19:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8D08DEADDE0B4AEFB3AFE087B86EF525@HP><412536.44441.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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 Well I want to thank all the folks for the help here.
I am a little embarrassed as to have assumed it was O.O.F and Marsha cleared that up.
I just saw the caps and did not look any closer, not good for a researcher.
Thanks Marsha for this because I will take more time on details from now own lets say * eyes open * <G>
   I was impressed with the Civil war link and the digital papers.
 As others, I will make the links on my website clear for folks who visit.
Any one with other links that are multi useable folks can send them to me private please.

I have learned a lot recently.
   For those who don't know, I lost about 8 years of really doing good for some reason I was in a depression and now am all alert again, and out here in the fresh air of the high desert really helped get me out of the dumps and writers block. I don't recall last time I was at the Oregon archive but its been a while.

So I was not going to try to rescue all my files and cd`s and stuff after the trailer house was trashed and every thing was scrambled, there is laundry soap power on most of the papers and cd`s the trailer did a flip and every thing inside was coated with soap or sewer from what was in the lines as the house landed almost upside down.
   So the file cabs were destroyed and the desk, both pc`s and the tv, my pc was stuck through a cupboard door, it still booted altho the frame of the pc was so bent the side popped off and the front was missing, I managed to save some things off the hard drive before it stopped working.

Now with most things beginning to show up from all the plastic bags we filled I might be able to sorta resurrect my genealogy on this laptop.

Many thanks
Dan M - `ol Dusty
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From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net  Fri Feb 12 09:03:03 2010
From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:03:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Computers are great but!
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I am not a computer expert but my use of computers goes back to the days of the Radio Shack?s trash 80 when 250 kb was a very big deal and now we think of TBs as a big deal. ? Along the way I have learn a few things from the school of hard knocks. ? And I would like to share just a tit bits. 





? 

First most everything can be done for a price. ? We all use hard drives and they come in all shapes and sizes. ? So the question is how much is that data worth to you. ? I had a portable hard drive (one of many) that one day decided not to work. ? I am not sure why but my theory is that I drop it on the hard wood floor. ? Well for about $2500 I found a reliable company in the San Francisco bay area that would retrieve my data from this hard drive, which at the time was out of my price range. ? But in steps a geek friend who suggested that maybe the hard drive was Ok but the case should be replaced. ? So $100 later and a new case and I am back in business and keeping my data in more than one storage location (Hard Drive). 





? 

Eugene Melvin 


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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 12 09:44:11 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:44:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] website links
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Thanks Dan - what's your website?

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)




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From: Dan M <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:55:28 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] cooper

I made a note to put your link on my web site.
Dan M



      
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 12 09:58:29 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:58:29 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] website links
References: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8D08DEADDE0B4AEFB3AFE087B86EF525@HP><412536.44441.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><570CEA67EBB044DAB7EA15151F43F12B@OwnerPC><A01F8274127C4919A29ADADC5E67A0C3@AroundHome>
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3
www.angelfire.com/dc/genealogy0
www.angelfire.com/or/matney
main domain
www.d-matney.com

I am slowly trying to get away from angelfire. too many adds and pop ups.
The d-matney is getting a new front page index . I am doing a re write on the PC and then will upload the changes.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robyn Greenlund 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] website links


  Thanks Dan - what's your website?


  Robyn
  rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

  Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
  coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)






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  From: Dan M <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
  To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
  Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:55:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] cooper

  I made a note to put your link on my web site.
  Dan M





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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 12 10:12:15 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:12:15 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Computers are great but!
References: <1696911671.2994221265994183410.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <10AB99E816784D17989F5597A43872F9@AroundHome>

I have a new solid state USB drive 320 gig cost 69.95 from Iomega.
Works great on the laptop.
  Also instead of cd`s for the last 2 years I been using 2 and 4 gig SD cards, many times faster than the thumb drives but I have a few of those too since the trailer crash I stopped using Cd`s, DVD`s and mechanical hard drives.  Also I found a place to back up on the web so in case the house sinks with a earthquake I can get a pc and recover.

As for HD recovery, I already have what it takes to recover certain things, but with physical damage there just is a lost case there.
   No we dont take the disks out of hard drives and put them in a new case, this is not something home users are set up for. Besides getting the disks in alignment would be very difficult since the head readers read more than one disk at a time.
   When something as volatile as happed to my PC I was lucky to get any things back. I put it in another pc last night that I got from a thrift shop and found it was the old PC and not the hard drive, I got the hard drive in as drive D and got it all moved to the newer solid state drive so I have all my data back save for a bit that was lost ( Rogers ) mainly was a new addition and I have it on Cd`s but time will tell because there is a lot of cd`s that got trashed. Lucky I use drag n drop so the cd scandisk can try to recover things.
   I have gone all solid state these days. I keep a 4 gig sd card inmy laptop and save all newer items there I can take it to my family and not have to carry the larger drives, also I can mail them and they don't get cracked and don't cost much they fit in an envelope and a couple stamps, walla!
Dan M ) rare off topic answer ;)) - ex commodore bbs sys - op.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net 
  To: Roots, OR List 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 9:03 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] Computers are great but!



  I am not a computer expert but my use of computers goes back to the days of the Radio Shack?s trash 80 when 250 kb was a very big deal and now we think of TBs as a big deal.  Along the way I have learn a few things from the school of hard knocks.  And I would like to share just a tit bits.

   

  First most everything can be done for a price.  We all use hard drives and they come in all shapes and sizes.  So the question is how much is that data worth to you.  I had a portable hard drive (one of many) that one day decided not to work.  I am not sure why but my theory is that I drop it on the hard wood floor.  Well for about $2500 I found a reliable company in the San Francisco bay area that would retrieve my data from this hard drive, which at the time was out of my price range.  But in steps a geek friend who suggested that maybe the hard drive was Ok but the case should be replaced.  So $100 later and a new case and I am back in business and keeping my data in more than one storage location (Hard Drive).

   

  Eugene Melvin





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From skipb at rcn.com  Fri Feb 12 11:44:35 2010
From: skipb at rcn.com (albert belanger)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:44:35 -0500
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper in Cooperstown, NY
In-Reply-To: <6cb1312c1002111916y1a65fb9fmcd98112ff4861940@mail.gmail.com>
References: <15db9.588d92cc.38a497ef@aol.com><C904F8ABA9DC45599EC4D100A1DEA7CB@AroundHome>
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Bonjour,

 

There is a wonderful James Fennimore Cooper museum in Cooperstown, NY.  It's
probably easy to get hold of them via GOOGLE, if anyone wants to contact
them for family info.

 

Your humble servant, &c., &c,

 

Albert

 

Albert Edward Belanger

128 Middle Road

Brentwood, NH 03833

 

Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration

 

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From sharonor at aracnet.com  Fri Feb 12 12:12:32 2010
From: sharonor at aracnet.com (Sharon Ryan)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:12:32 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co
In-Reply-To: <2CAE8C6B95524BB0B32B0F6CDB4AC799@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <201002122010.o1CKAPgD029579@jade.aracnet.com>

Hi Dan:
 
There is an easier way.  
 
If you didn't find it on the BLM site then give me the address you are
wanting to research in full and I will look it up on my BLM maps.  
 
You can send the address to me off site at the email below.
 
Sharon
Sharonor at aracnet.com
Sharon at HeritageTrailpress.com
www.HeritageTrailpress.com
 

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From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:28 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co


thanks
I was hoping by now there would be something easier than a 100+ mile drive.
 I will call tho.
Dan M = thanks.;)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Diane <mailto:whitehillranch at centurytel.net>  
To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] 1880>1935 land record lake co

Dan,
 
Take  your land description to the Title Office in Lakeview.  AmeriTitle,
405 1st Street North, Lakeview   541-947-3019.  Or maybe you can call them. 

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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 12 12:51:07 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:51:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Well, if one is patient with this genealogy, and you keep with it for a 
while, eventually you discover that everyone really is related to 
everyone else, or so it seems --

I'd always thought my Burr-Simpkins  family just "came to Oregon" on 
their own in 1909, but now I find that Rosetta Simpkins parents and at 
least one sister were already here --  they were in Kansas in 1880 and 
in Oregon around 1990 --  and Rosetta's sister, Charlotte "Lottie" 
Simpkins/Simkins, married Edgar Van Dorn in 1894, son of  southern 
Oregon pioneers Isaac Van Dorn and  Martha Wright.

Now, if any of you folks with experience in these early Oregon  
emigrants could suggest where to look to see if I could find more on 
Isaac Van Dorn's arrival in Oregon, I would appreciate it.  No, he is 
not an ancestor, but he is part of the family.  Would also be interested 
in why/when Edgar and and Lottie moved to Yakima, WA, should anyone have 
any clues as where to look.

Thank you,

Bill Strickland



From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Fri Feb 12 14:42:09 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:42:09 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper in Cooperstown, NY
References: <15db9.588d92cc.38a497ef@aol.com><C904F8ABA9DC45599EC4D100A1DEA7CB@AroundHome><6cb1312c1002111916y1a65fb9fmcd98112ff4861940@mail.gmail.com>
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Thats the book I have.
Lots of pictures.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: albert belanger 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:44 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] Cooper in Cooperstown, NY


  Bonjour,

   

  There is a wonderful James Fennimore Cooper museum in Cooperstown, NY.  It's probably easy to get hold of them via GOOGLE, if anyone wants to contact them for family info.

   

  Your humble servant, &c., &c,

   

  Albert

   

  Albert Edward Belanger

  128 Middle Road

  Brentwood, NH 03833

   

  Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration

   


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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Fri Feb 12 15:48:38 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:48:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Bill
My suggustion would be to check at the Oregon State Library to see what they have if you know the County or Counties they were in here, if it is real Southern Oregon you may want to check with the Southern Oregon Historical Society, I do not remember their website offhand, or with OGS In Eugene.
I know I have found information on my families at the State Library and at OGS, have never made it to SOHS.
Glen Jones Portland
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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Fri Feb 12 16:09:40 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:09:40 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Glen - I don't thisnk SOHS is open right now. They  have closed most, if 
not all of their unite due to the county's budget problems.  If you need help 
in So. Oregon RVGS.com (Rogue Valley Genealogical Society) is  your best bet 
at this time. Hopefully things will get straightened out down  there. There 
is talk of RVGS and SOHS combining but nothing concrete  yet.
Carroll Cooper Summers
Member of RVGS (even if I do now live in  Salem)
 
Bill
My suggustion would be to check at the Oregon  State Library to see what 
they have if you know the County or Counties they  were in here, if it is real 
Southern Oregon you may want to check with the  Southern Oregon Historical 
Society, I do not remember their website offhand,  or with OGS In Eugene.
I know I have found information on my families at  the State Library and at 
OGS, have never made it to SOHS.
Glen Jones  Portland 

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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Fri Feb 12 16:15:01 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:15:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Thank You Carroll I had not heard about SOHS.
Tomorrow I am going to Philomath for the Benton County Genealogical Society Meeting, as I have a lot of Family History in that area as well as Eugene and Cottage Grove.
I am researching Belknap, Currier, and Roe families to which I am related and they were all Early Oregonians.

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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Fri Feb 12 16:25:29 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:25:29 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Welcome Glen. I keep up with the news of the Rogue  Valley on line reading 
the Medford Mail Tribune each morning. After 57 years  living there it is 
difficult to give them up. My Cooper family were Early  Settlers of Jackson 
co. and moved in 1884 to Baker Co. There two more lines, the  Jessups and 
Clerkins came just before 1900, eventually most settling in Portland  where I 
was born and raised. This genealogy research is a fascinating  obsession!
Carroll Cooper Summers
 
Thank You Carroll I had not heard about  SOHS.
Tomorrow I am going to Philomath for the Benton County Genealogical  
Society Meeting, as I have a lot of Family History in that area as well as  Eugene 
and Cottage Grove.
I am researching Belknap, Currier, and Roe  families to which I am related 
and they were all Early Oregonians.

Glen  Jones Portland  

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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Fri Feb 12 16:53:14 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:53:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Hi Carroll
I am on the list quite often my family history here goes back to 1829 when my Grt Grt Grandfather came here a mountain man and fur trapper
Glen Jones Portland
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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Fri Feb 12 17:05:39 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:05:39 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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OK, first:

Isaac Van Dorn d 17 May 1920 in Josephine County, Certificate 34
Martha Jane Van Dorn, d 1 Feb 1918, Josephine County, Certificate 18

Secondly.  

Isaac and wife Martha J are on Slate Creek in Jos. County in 1880.

Isaac, 49, b Indiana, parents b PA
Martha J, 42, b Ohio, parents b Ireland
Hellen, 17, b Oregon
Edgar, 15, b Oregon
William, 11 b Oregon
Charles, 7 b Oregon

1870, indexed Van Dom on Ancestry (I changed it), is the family, with two
children not present in 1880:
Van Dorn, Isaac, 40, farmer, Indiana
Martha J, 36, Ohio
Margaret, 12, born Oregon
 Benedict, 10, born Oregon.
Helen, 8
Edgar, 4
William, 1

Indexed as Vandorn in 1860, the family is in Jacksonville, Jackson County:
Isaac Van Dorn 24, b Indiana
Martha 23, b Ohio
Margaret, 2, b Oregon
B 5/12, b Oregon

In the "Genealogical Material found in Oregon Donation Land Claims" we have:

No 1334
Miller, Hullings, Land Co; b 1812, Washington Co, Pa; Ar. Ore. 20/25 Sept
1852; SC 15 Feb 1853; m Margaret Witt 1 Jan 1834/7, Union Co, Ind. Aff:
Thomas J Vaughn, Nancy Jane Sippy, James Howard, Isaac Vanduyne.

No 1345, Samuel Smith -- also has an Aff by Isaac Vanduyne (MA)

No 1431 Vanduyn, Isaac, Land Co; b 1810, Somerset Co, NY; Arr. Ore "at
Fosters" on or before 13 Set 1851; SC 30 Sept 1852; m Sally Miles 21 Mar
1833, Vermillion Co, Ind. Aff: John Diamond, Robert B. Cochran, James
Howard, Hulings Miller.

The Volume I Index includes:
Vandal (Van Dale, Van Dall, Vandel), Louis Jr and Marion Delors, and Cecil.
Van Duyn/Vanduyne, Isaac and Sally Miles

Vol II includes Louis Vandal again, but that's it.

Vol III has none

Vol IV has Louis again, as Vandall, Louie, Louis and Louis Sr.  Also,
Vandolf, Louis.

Backwards on the 1850 census, I find two Isaac Vandorns, b Indiana, 
 
Isaac Vandorn, Polk Iowa, b ca 1831, Indiana
Father, Jacob 56, b NJ. 
"sister"? Mary, 27, b PA
Isaac, 19 b Indiana
Alvin, 24, b Ohio
(there are two other probable sons, both born in Ohio.)

The 1856 census of Polk County, IA, gives:
Jacob, 58, b PA
Mary A, 32, PA
Mary Leoister, 62, NJ
Alban Van Dorn, 23, Ohio
George Potter, 27, Ohio
Isaac Van Dorn, 23, Indiana
James Houston, 21, Illinois
Hezekiah Van Dorn, 20, Indiana

The 1850 also has:
Isaac Vandorn, 16, Troy Twp, Fountain, Indiana:
Father is William, 63, b NJ, mother is Elizabeth, 48, b VA
(However, further investigation finds him dying in Fountain about 1917)

Have you seen this:

http://www.talenthistory.org/archive_08.html

You may find something there.

Pat
In Tucson




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Bill Strickland
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:51 PM
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Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family

Well, if one is patient with this genealogy, and you keep with it for a 
while, eventually you discover that everyone really is related to 
everyone else, or so it seems --

I'd always thought my Burr-Simpkins  family just "came to Oregon" on 
their own in 1909, but now I find that Rosetta Simpkins parents and at 
least one sister were already here --  they were in Kansas in 1880 and 
in Oregon around 1990 --  and Rosetta's sister, Charlotte "Lottie" 
Simpkins/Simkins, married Edgar Van Dorn in 1894, son of  southern 
Oregon pioneers Isaac Van Dorn and  Martha Wright.

Now, if any of you folks with experience in these early Oregon  
emigrants could suggest where to look to see if I could find more on 
Isaac Van Dorn's arrival in Oregon, I would appreciate it.  No, he is 
not an ancestor, but he is part of the family.  Would also be interested 
in why/when Edgar and and Lottie moved to Yakima, WA, should anyone have 
any clues as where to look.

Thank you,

Bill Strickland

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From PMML at MERITEL.NET  Fri Feb 12 17:55:27 2010
From: PMML at MERITEL.NET (Marsha BradleyLuthy)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:55:27 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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I didn't pay attention it was just in my notes I quess I missed
it to.    oops

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:19 AM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:

>   Well I want to thank all the folks for the help here.
> I am a little embarrassed as to have assumed it was O.O.F and Marsha
> cleared that up.
> I just saw the caps and did not look any closer, not good for a researcher.
> Thanks Marsha for this because I will take more time on details from now
> own lets say * eyes open * <G>
>    I was impressed with the Civil war link and the digital papers.
>  As others, I will make the links on my website clear for folks who visit.
> Any one with other links that are multi useable folks can send them to me
> private please.
>
> I have learned a lot recently.
>    For those who don't know, I lost about 8 years of really doing good for
> some reason I was in a depression and now am all alert again, and out here
> in the fresh air of the high desert really helped get me out of the dumps
> and writers block. I don't recall last time I was at the Oregon archive but
> its been a while.
>
> So I was not going to try to rescue all my files and cd`s and stuff after
> the trailer house was trashed and every thing was scrambled, there is
> laundry soap power on most of the papers and cd`s the trailer did a flip and
> every thing inside was coated with soap or sewer from what was in the lines
> as the house landed almost upside down.
>    So the file cabs were destroyed and the desk, both pc`s and the tv, my
> pc was stuck through a cupboard door, it still booted altho the frame of the
> pc was so bent the side popped off and the front was missing, I managed to
> save some things off the hard drive before it stopped working.
>
> Now with most things beginning to show up from all the plastic bags we
> filled I might be able to sorta resurrect my genealogy on this laptop.
>
> Many thanks
> Dan M - `ol Dusty
>
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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Fri Feb 12 18:57:45 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:57:45 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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I have not tried to find just when Isaac & Martha Jane Van Dorn came to the 
O.T., but do have an interest in this family.  According to census records, 
their oldest daughter was b. about 1858 in Oregon, so they were here early. 
Their son, Benedict, married my grandaunt, Eliza Griffin, in 1895.  You may 
already have the following information.  The Josephine Co. marriage records 
list Edgar Vandorn to Lettie A. Simkins 04 Feb 1894 (I have her in my 
records as Lottie).  Isaac's death certificate gives his burial place as 
Pleasant Valley Cemetery, Hugo, Josephine Co., OR.  I have not checked on 
Martha Jane.  Neither of these folks is listed on the Interment.net web site 
listing for this cemetery.  Census records show that Lottie (without Edgar) 
moved to Selah, Yakima Co., WA between 1910 & 1920, possibly to join her 
parents.  In 1910 there is a Noah Simkins & wife Rebecca living in Selah. 
According to Family Search Washington Death Certificates Lottie Anna Van 
Dorn d. 05 May 1948 in Yakima, Yakima Co., WA., age 70y 11m 1d, spouse Edgar 
Van Dorn, father Noah Simpkins, mother Rebecca Atterbarry.  Edgar Vandorn d. 
09 Dec 1954 in Yakima, Yakima Co., WA, age 91y 7m 27d, father Isaac Vandorn, 
mother Martha Wright.  Some of their children are listed there also, but 
Noah & Rebecca Simkins/Simpkins are not included in this database.

Darlene


> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Chris &
> Bill Strickland
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:51 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
> Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
>
> Well, if one is patient with this genealogy, and you keep with it for a
> while, eventually you discover that everyone really is related to
> everyone else, or so it seems --
>
> I'd always thought my Burr-Simpkins  family just "came to Oregon" on
> their own in 1909, but now I find that Rosetta Simpkins parents and at
> least one sister were already here --  they were in Kansas in 1880 and
> in Oregon around 1990 --  and Rosetta's sister, Charlotte "Lottie"
> Simpkins/Simkins, married Edgar Van Dorn in 1894, son of  southern
> Oregon pioneers Isaac Van Dorn and  Martha Wright.
>
> Now, if any of you folks with experience in these early Oregon
> emigrants could suggest where to look to see if I could find more on
> Isaac Van Dorn's arrival in Oregon, I would appreciate it.  No, he is
> not an ancestor, but he is part of the family.  Would also be interested
> in why/when Edgar and and Lottie moved to Yakima, WA, should anyone have
> any clues as where to look.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bill Strickland
>
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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 12 21:45:07 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:45:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Darlene & Pat -- Thank You! 

Y'all sure show up the disadvantage I am at due to my lack of 
familiarity with Oregon & NW records and where to look, but maybe I can 
help Darleene with a couple things

> The Josephine Co. marriage records list Edgar Vandorn to Lettie A. 
> Simkins 04 Feb 1894 (I have her in my records as Lottie).


She is Charlotte A Simpkins in the 1880 Kansas census --

1880 US Census, Linn County, KS, Sheridan Twp,  pg 138B

>   Isaac's death certificate gives his burial place as Pleasant Valley 
> Cemetery, Hugo, Josephine Co., OR.  I have not checked on Martha 
> Jane.  Neither of these folks is listed on the Interment.net web site 
> listing for this cemetery.


This Merlin/Hugo area seems to be where the Burr family first settled, 
and Noah and Rebecca are buried there, too

 http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/pleas_val/pleas_lz.htm  
Contributed by Jean Boling, May 26, 2007 [jeanboling at charter.net].

Pleasant Valley Cemetery, Hugo, Josephine County, Oregon

Simkins, Noah, b. 2/8/1844, d. 7/10/1910, Shared stone w/ Rebecca 
Simkins, Plot B1/R3/L8
Simkins, Rebecca B, b. 10/10/1842, d. N/D, Possible DOD 3/27/1916, Plot 
B1/R3/L8

> Census records show that Lottie (without Edgar) moved to Selah, Yakima 
> Co., WA between 1910 & 1920, possibly to join her parents. 


That's what I was looking for -- family in the Yakima Valley -- lends 
some factual value and logic to Burr family trips to Yakima during the 
early 1900's.  Even though Noah and Rebecca died shortly thereafter, 
looks like Rosetta's sister Lottie was there for quite a while ...

Seems that more often than not, but not always, one sees Simpkins in the 
records before Oregon and Simkins thereafter ...

Again, Thanks!

And yes, the Talent Historical Society is another alternative to the 
SOHS closure, as well as the RVGS in Phoenix. -- and don't forget the 
library at the college in Ashland (it will always be SOCE to me) -- my 
folk's (and thus mine) first two homesites are now part of the campus, 
as well as the site of the  hospital where I was born.  My knowledge and 
acquaintances just don't go back another century.

Humbled by the generous use of your time,

Bill Strickland



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 08:06:40 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:06:40 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Medford is my Home town.
Almond St down where the red wood tree is, there used to be a house there.
We left when they made us move for the pillar for the freeway and mom said thats it we are leaving town. So we did. Then we came back and moved to Gilman's dairy then a few years later we moved to Yellowstone park and lots of little jobs in between.
   I lived on May st first, also between houses the Riverside aprts.
Mom was a cook in the Owl Club and another place just down the block.
   I miss it there. 
   Dan M
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  Welcome Glen. I keep up with the news of the Rogue Valley on line reading the Medford Mail Tribune each morning. After 57 years living there it is difficult to give them up. My Cooper family were Early Settlers of Jackson co. and moved in 1884 to Baker Co. There two more lines, the Jessups and Clerkins came just before 1900, eventually most settling in Portland where I was born and raised. This genealogy research is a fascinating obsession!
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 08:19:04 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:19:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] My Oregon Pioneer
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My first pioneer who was on the 1843 trail was Walter J Matney.
He rode a mule and was of fun of people making jokes.
He was also the one in the fuss with Nesmith over that mule .
There is a story about that in a few articles I have collected.
 I went the the Nesmith cemetery years ago and took a lot of pictures and 
have them all to add back to my website one day.
   Once I saw a note that said for the beginning of the trail to start in 
Sapling grove that is now Kansas but I dont recall where I got that note 
from just off hand.

The thing that bothers me is the paper trail for Walter has a probate, and I 
have that.
I just dont understand why I cant get a idea of his burial.

In the Article Alturas ( Doris Bridge) I have the article for Sam K Matney, 
called Tule `E Dad, and also mentions there is a old picture of the sherrif 
at that time with hin in it, also that he scapled Indians to show they were 
not the only ones who could do that.

There is info about Walter and Sam raising pigs living in a cave in Jess 
valley and that Sam is buried there, since there are no stones I dont know 
just where, some one once said they knew and would send me a picture but 
never did, might have been because I was offline 7 months just after that.

Seems if there was a probate there ( must ) be more paper work some place.

Other Pioneers are Walters dad and Brothers, not all were listed so far as 
Ican find out on the trails. James Madison Matney was a scout who led the 
trains from Salt Lake to Oregon, dont see mch on him either.

Dan M - ramblings - ;) 



From darlene at thecasteels.net  Sat Feb 13 08:45:33 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:45:33 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Bill --

Never occurred to me that Noah & Rebecca might also be buried in Pleasant 
Valley Cemetery.  For some unknown reason I have not researched the Van Dorn 
family except for Benedict & his parents.  Maybe it's because I have not 
felt a "kinship".  As I mentioned in an earlier post, Benedict married my 
grandaunt Eliza Griffin.  Sad part of my family history -- Eliza died in 
childbirth in 1896.  Benedict vowed the baby could not be his, and would 
have nothing to do with it.  Eliza's father also would have nothing to do 
with the baby, and the family had no idea even if it was a boy or a girl. 
Gr-grandpa Griffin brought Eliza's body back to be buried in the Griffin 
Cemetery outside Jacksonville.  Benedict moved to Lake Co., OR where he died 
in 1935, and the family apparently had no further communication with him. 
Happy part of my family history -- about 5-6 years ago a member of the 
Josephine Co. Historical Society contacted my aunt (then still living in 
Grants Pass) about a lady who had pictures of Benedict & Eliza " in silver 
frames".  Took us about 2 years, but we finally made contact with the owner 
of the pictures -- portraits in silver PAINTED frames, and she gave them us.

Anyway, I suppose you already know that Noah (he's listed as Nvah Sinkins on 
the Oregon death index on Ancestry) d. in Josephine Co., and Rebecca 
Simpkins d. 27 Mar 1916 in Douglas Co.  Two more death certificates for me 
to pick up on my way through Salem as I head north from sunny Arizona, and 
two more obits to look for next time I visit the Washington State Library 
........ !!

Darlene



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 13 09:19:48 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:19:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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Darlene Casteel wrote:

> Never occurred to me that Noah & Rebecca might also be buried in 
> Pleasant Valley Cemetery.  For some unknown reason I have not 
> researched the Van Dorn family except for Benedict & his parents.  
> Maybe it's because I have not felt a "kinship". 


I see your "problem" -- did the unwanted child survive?

> Anyway, I suppose you already know that Noah (he's listed as Nvah 
> Sinkins on the Oregon death index on Ancestry) d. in Josephine Co., 
> and Rebecca Simpkins d. 27 Mar 1916 in Douglas Co.  


Noah's death date might make an interesting comparison to the 1910 
census date in Selah, WA ...  (not on Ancestry)

Bill Strickland


From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sat Feb 13 12:21:22 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:21:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this
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Here is a mystery for you; I have this file in the stuff resurected (sp?)
from  my dead "My Book" and for the life of me cannot imagine  why unless it
was for someone else on the list, anybody recognize this?

If this is of interest to anyone I can send you the whole file off list, the
notes are about twice as long as what you see here.

Les C


Descendants of Charles Smith


Generation No. 1

1.  CHARLES1 SMITH was born 20 September 1857 in Northampton, England, and
died 29 September 1937 in North Bend, OR.  He married JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE
06 May 1884 in Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, daughter of WILLIAM MACE and MARY
MOORE.  She was born 10 December 1860 in Kingsbury, Quebec, Canada, and died
03 March 1938 in North Bend, OR.

Notes for JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE:
Marriage date was recorded at the Methodist Church, Records of Durham, P.Q.
Canada.

Children of CHARLES SMITH and JOSEPHINE MACE are:
2.	i.	EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH, b. 02 August 1885, Ulverton, Quebec,
Canada; d. 11 November 1965, North Bend, OR.
3.	ii.	EMMA FRANCES SMITH, b. 26 July 1887, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d.
January 1962, Ilwaco, WA.
4.	iii.	ALICE PEARLE SMITH, b. 20 September 1892, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada;
d. 29 January 1969, Portland, OR.
5.	iv.	RUBY ISABEL SMITH, b. 04 March 1895, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d. 04
May 1974, Salem, OR.
6.	v.	GLADYS MABEL SMITH, b. 16 January 1898, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d.
12 July 1991, Portland, OR.
	vi.	RETA ERLENE SMITH, b. 10 April 1904, Gardiner, OR; d. September 1990,
North Bend, OR.


Generation No. 2

2.  EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 02 August 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died 11 November 1965 in North Bend, OR.  She
married ZENO ZABRISKIE 26 June 1907 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03
September 1876 in Osage, KS, and died 30 October 1956 in Springfield, OR.

Children of EDITH SMITH and ZENO ZABRISKIE are:
	i.	CEDRIC DONALD3 ZABRISKIE, b. 17 April 1908, Gardiner, OR; d. 25 December
2001, Turner, Marion Co., OR; m. MAE FOGELSONGER, 24 December 1932; b. 24
December 1913; d. 02 October 1995, Turner, OR.
	ii.	MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE, b. 30 October 1909, Gardiner, OR; d. 26
September 2000, Springfield, Lane Co., OR; m. ETHEL SCHLUCKELBEIR, 21 June
1957; b. 10 March 1909; d. 14 May 1985, Springfield, OR.

More About MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE:
Burial: 29 September 2000, Greenwood Cemetery, Leaburg,  Lane Co., OR

	iii.	CHARLES HENRY ZABRISKIE, b. 27 February 1913, Douglas County, OR; d.
08 June 1978, Escondido, CA; m. BERNICE GUTMAN, 29 May 1937, Eugene, OR; b.
21 December 1913, Pasadena, CA.
	iv.	RONALD ZENO ZABRISKIE, b. 15 July 1917, Gardiner, OR.
	v.	ROBERT ALLAN ZABRISKIE, b. 17 August 1919, Gardiner, OR; m. HELEN
MAYDOLE, 09 December 1949; b. 06 December 1930, Atkin, MN.


	vi.	ANNA MAE ZABRISKIE, b. 06 September 1921, Gardiner, OR; m. (1) HOWARD
CLYDE BARNES, 03 March 1946, Eugene, OR; b. 18 January 1914, Boise, Idaho;
d. 05 March 1981, North Bend, OR; m. (2) JAMES RICHARD FERRY, 16 January
1993, North Bend, OR; b. 21 August 1913, New Rochelle, NY; d. 18 October
2001, North Bend, OR.
	vii.	JOHN THADEUS ZABRISKIE, b. 13 August 1923, Santa Clara, OR; d. 31
March 1976, Walterville, OR; m. MARGARET (MIDGE) RAIE JONES, 05 January
1973.


3.  EMMA FRANCES2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 26 July 1887 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died January 1962 in Ilwaco, WA.  She married FREDERICK
WILLIAM RADFORD 18 March 1919 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 11 June 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died January 1960 in Ilwaco, WA.

Children of EMMA SMITH and FREDERICK RADFORD are:
	i.	HELEN3 RADFORD, b. 1912; d. 1912.
	ii.	ERLENE AUDREY RADFORD, b. 08 February 1913; d. 20 January 1945; m.
EVERETT J. FISHER.
	iii.	FRANCES EMFRED RADFORD, b. 04 February 1915, Astoria, OR; m. WAYNE
GORDON BROWN, 15 November 1941, Long Beach, WA; b. 16 October 1914, Hobie,
Kansas; d. 17 February 1989, Tacoma, WA.
	iv.	WILFORD (BUD) ASTOR RADFORD, b. 26 July 1917, Astoria, OR; d. 03
November 1969, Hilo, Hawaii; m. GENEVIEVE MEDAK, 25 December 1940,
Raymond,WA.


4.  ALICE PEARLE2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 20 September 1892 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 29 January 1969 in Portland, OR.  She married
ALBERT JOHNSON 25 March 1914 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 07 May 1890 in
CA, and died May 1949 in Portland, OR.

Child of ALICE SMITH and ALBERT JOHNSON is:
	i.	ROBERT ALLEN3 JOHNSON, b. 20 May 1915, San Pedro, CA; d. 25 December
2001, Portland, Multnomah Co., OR; m. VIRGINIA MACPHERSON, 11 September
1948, Portland, OR; b. 13 February 1923.

5.  RUBY ISABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 04 March 1895 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 04 May 1974 in Salem, OR.  She married SIGURD
ABRAHAMSEN 06 August 1921 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03 November 1889 in
Mandal, Norway, and died 30 January 1978 in Salem, OR.

Children of RUBY SMITH and SIGURD ABRAHAMSEN are:
	i.	PHILLIP HAROLD3 ABRAHAMSEN, b. 15 April 1926, Coos Bay, OR; m. AVA DORIS
BEBER, 20 November 1948, Coos Bay, OR; b. 20 February 1930, Cudahay, WI.
	ii.	DONALD ELWIN ABRAHAMSEN, b. 10 January 1929, North Bend, OR; m. EUNICE
CAROLINE HIVELEY, 20 March 1955, Corvallis, OR; b. 04 September 1935, North
Dakota.


6.  GLADYS MABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 16 January 1898 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 12 July 1991 in Portland, OR.  She married CHARLES
EDWARD ASVIK 01 July 1925 in Vancouver, WA.  He was born 17 March 1891 in
Oulu, Finland, and died 20 August 1944 in Portland, OR.

Children of GLADYS SMITH and CHARLES ASVIK are:
	i.	MARY JOSEPHINE3 ASVIK, b. 06 March 1929, Portland, OR; m. FRANK T.
BORREGO, 13 June 1964, Carson City, NV; b. 08 October 1921, Aguilar, CO.
	ii.	CHARLEEN EDRIE ASVIK, b. 27 December 1932, Salem, Oregon; m. WALTER
FRANK OERDING, JR, 19 June 1954, Portland, OR; b. 21 May 1932, Coquille, OR.




From darlene at thecasteels.net  Sat Feb 13 12:26:08 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:26:08 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
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>
>
> I see your "problem" -- did the unwanted child survive?

We really do not know, but I suspect the baby was a girl, and the lady who 
gave us the pictures of Benedict & Eliza may have been descended from this 
baby.
>
>> Anyway, I suppose you already know that Noah (he's listed as Nvah Sinkins 
>> on the Oregon death index on Ancestry) d. in Josephine Co., and Rebecca 
>> Simpkins d. 27 Mar 1916 in Douglas Co.
>
>
> Noah's death date might make an interesting comparison to the 1910 census 
> date in Selah, WA ...  (not on Ancestry)

I goofed in my thinking that Lottie may have moved to Selah to be near her 
parents.  Noah & Rebecca are in Josephine Co. in 1910, census taken in 
April.  Sorry for the mis-information.  Now I really have no guesses as to 
why Edgar & Lottie moved to eastern Washington.  I think I better "mind my 
own business".........

Darlene

> Bill Strickland
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sat Feb 13 12:40:04 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:40:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Useful links and other hints
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I just ran across this and thought I would share it again in case some of
you have missed some of these. I checked and they all work, though you will
have to search out the actual search page on the New Brunswick link. Also
Vital search is now pretty much all a pay site, but still can get a little
bit out of them free.

Les C

Researching Government Records

Local government record sources  vary by size of community and general
variations; County seats and other administrative centers are going to have
more information. Smaller communities may have no organized official records
at all.

How well records were kept varied a great deal over time and by areas.
Massachusetts has many small communities where excellent records were  kept
from fairly early in their history and have been compiled into easily usable
books. Conversely the deep South has many communities where almost no
records exist before 1865 as a result of the War of Rebellion.

Unfortunately even areas where the norm was to keep good records there have
been lapses. One set of records near and dear to me is the Concord,
Massachusetts Vital Records as  nearly every page has Kin on it and half of
some pages are in my family file;  Concord Registers Book 1 page 7: "From
the date (September 17, 1659) when Simon Willard made the foregoing return
until February, 1654, no record of Births, Marriages and Deaths in Concord
is to be found    .     .    ."

The most common repository of records in the U.S. is in County seats, or
similar government levels, this is commonly where almost all probate records
and land records will be found. Often these are the only records that are
available with any useful information, especially in 18th century and
earlier.

Again there is a wide variation in how helpful county governmental bodies
are concerning requests for information. I recently visited the Douglas
County Courthouse and found the staff very supportive of my quest which was
very different from my previous visit where I seemed to be "imposing" on
them to be there at all. Perhaps my previous visit I just caught them on a
bad day. Some county seats have a very good system for finding records and
on the other hand at PLSO conference a few years back the County surveyor
for one of the smaller Eastern Oregon Counties mentioned that his records
were in two or three cardboard boxes under a desk in is office.

States have a wide degree of variation, not only in what they will share,
but how easy it is to get.

Getting anything out of the Federal Government usually involves paperwork,
patience and money in about equal amounts.

On the following pages you will find some examples of currently available
information from various sources.

For specific locations my best recommendation is to google the location name
and "search within results" for genealogy to get some relevant listings. I
have often located specific postings for people of interest by following
with another  "search within results" for surname.

What the good web sites you find this way will have is listings of where
lookups may be available, what online information is available and most
important,  who and where to contact city, county or State offices for
copies of original documents.






First some of my favorites;

For the state of Missouri for starters;

http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/birthdeath/

This is a somewhat complex site, but it provides you with pdf's of actual
birth and death records for the 19th century as they have them available,
and also index entries for some of the 20th century, these indexes are quite
helpful, much more info than your usual "name and date and county of birth
if your lucky, these have mother's maiden name and some other details though
they are very insistent that you should order the actual document cause they
can't guarantee the info. A lot of the birth entries do not have child's
given name, it seems to me even some of the original certs don't, and as I
said the person you are looking for might or might not be available.

Closer to home for me;

http://www.deathindexes.com/oregon/index.html

some of the information on this page is fee based, but the Oregon Death
Index 1903-1930 is a freebie and some of the county info is also. For those
with specific Oregon requests they should contact me off list as I may be
able to connect them to resources for lookups in some areas that aren't
obvious.

California;
Rootsweb death index;

http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi

   http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/

the worst of that site are the pre 1940 death indexes which are poor quality
scans of the index pages, if you have some skill at digitally enhancing them
they become a little easier to read, but i am sure I have a dozen or so
misread dates in my data file, but am too cheap to order the certs. (you may
notice a pattern here, I pretty much only pay for folks in my immediate
ancestry, or where I can find a real bargain, unless I am getting stuff out
of county courthouse records or for someone else)

Illinois;

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html

very good for indexes of death and marriage, no birth info. One of the
eccentricities is some states won't give you birth info, some won't give you
marriage, but everybody figures after your dead your info should be
available.

Also in Illinois;

http://jersey.ilgenweb.net/         granted this is mostly just one county,
but if you happen have kin there, or if they ever were there for any period
of time this site may have something on them.

New Brunswick;

http://genealogy.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.gnb.ca/Arc
hives/e/Default.asp

yes, I know that isn't part of the Western United states, but thought I'd
throw it in.

Washington Vital Records; Washington (the state) is making the most
comprehensive effort to make vital records available, the key to using these
however is to click on the "show all records" link for the record type you
are interested in and then you can come back to this page when you are
through, if you just click on the record type you have to go back and start
a new search when you finish that type and clicking on the "open in a new
window" just gets you an error message.

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/default.aspx

here is what Wheeler nets in that database; oops, never mind that! I've
never done that before, the page I meant to paste in here was 15 lines, but
somehow it was linked to the  "show all records" and for most of the sets of
less than a hundred it showed them!  Here again a lot of originals are
available as pdf or whatever ( another nice feature is they give you a
choice of formats) but not by any means all of what is even indexed.


Western states marriage index;

http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/westernStates/search.cfm

apparently this is based at least in part on contributions or some arcane
system of deciding what to include; the Oregon entries seem to be mostly
east of the Cascades. I think it may have to do with teh host for the
database??

Last but not least; Arizona;

http://genealogy.az.gov/

I thought they had marriage too, but I don't see it, they are most open
about stuff as they seem to have a lot available and it comes as a pdf of
rhe original


For persons of Massachusetts ancestry try googling the town name followed by
the words vital records and you may be able to download the entire book of
vital records up to 1850. This will also get you similar results for a few
other locations. People with a large number of towns of interest there might
want to inquire of my personal database.



From sallyya at frontiernet.net  Sat Feb 13 12:41:00 2010
From: sallyya at frontiernet.net (Sally)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:41:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Simkins southern oregon
In-Reply-To: <mailman.52.1266091221.3102.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or .us>
References: <mailman.52.1266091221.3102.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
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In the marriage index of Josephine county there is 4 marriages for 
Simkins it shows:
  Lettie A. Simpkins  marriage to Edgar Vandorn 2/4/1894 vol 3 page 
449 listed are his parents Issac and Martha J.

also shown is Alfred Simpkins Hattie Burch 10/29/1888 vol 2 page 525 
it says groom of Yamhill

Mary Jane Attebery(maiden) Simpkins married Gustavus A Tyler 
5/23/1888 vol 2 page 511

George Simkins to Edith Butler 12/2/1896 vol 4 page 136.

G.A. Simkins to Lizzie Isham 11/14/1904 vol 5 page 56
Hope some of this is new information
Sally in southern oregon

>Subject: [or-roots] Finally, an Oregon Pioneer in the family
>Message: 2
>
>Well, if one is patient with this genealogy, and you keep with it 
>for a while, eventually you discover that everyone really is related 
>to everyone else, or so it seems --
>
>I'd always thought my Burr-Simpkins  family just "came to Oregon" on 
>their own in 1909, but now I find that Rosetta Simpkins parents and 
>at least one sister were already here --  they were in Kansas in 
>1880 and in Oregon around 1990 --  and Rosetta's sister, Charlotte 
>"Lottie" Simpkins/Simkins, married Edgar Van Dorn in 1894, son 
>of  southern Oregon pioneers Isaac Van Dorn and  Martha Wright.
>
>Now, if any of you folks with experience in these early Oregon
>emigrants could suggest where to look to see if I could find more on 
>Isaac Van Dorn's arrival in Oregon, I would appreciate it.  No, he 
>is not an ancestor, but he is part of the family.  Would also be 
>interested in why/when Edgar and and Lottie moved to Yakima, WA, 
>should anyone have any clues as where to look.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Bill Strickland




From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Sat Feb 13 12:42:46 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:42:46 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEIENECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
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Les

This tree in on Ancestry, someone named Tim. Except that your copy has much
more information on the newer generations.

I'd ditch it if I were you.

Pat


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Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:21 PM
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Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this

Here is a mystery for you; I have this file in the stuff resurected (sp?)
from  my dead "My Book" and for the life of me cannot imagine  why unless it
was for someone else on the list, anybody recognize this?

If this is of interest to anyone I can send you the whole file off list, the
notes are about twice as long as what you see here.

Les C


Descendants of Charles Smith


Generation No. 1

1.  CHARLES1 SMITH was born 20 September 1857 in Northampton, England, and
died 29 September 1937 in North Bend, OR.  He married JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE
06 May 1884 in Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, daughter of WILLIAM MACE and MARY
MOORE.  She was born 10 December 1860 in Kingsbury, Quebec, Canada, and died
03 March 1938 in North Bend, OR.

Notes for JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE:
Marriage date was recorded at the Methodist Church, Records of Durham, P.Q.
Canada.

Children of CHARLES SMITH and JOSEPHINE MACE are:
2.	i.	EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH, b. 02 August 1885, Ulverton,
Quebec,
Canada; d. 11 November 1965, North Bend, OR.
3.	ii.	EMMA FRANCES SMITH, b. 26 July 1887, Ulverton, Quebec,
Canada; d.
January 1962, Ilwaco, WA.
4.	iii.	ALICE PEARLE SMITH, b. 20 September 1892, Ulverton, Quebec,
Canada;
d. 29 January 1969, Portland, OR.
5.	iv.	RUBY ISABEL SMITH, b. 04 March 1895, Ulverton, Quebec,
Canada; d. 04
May 1974, Salem, OR.
6.	v.	GLADYS MABEL SMITH, b. 16 January 1898, Ulverton, Quebec,
Canada; d.
12 July 1991, Portland, OR.
	vi.	RETA ERLENE SMITH, b. 10 April 1904, Gardiner, OR; d.
September 1990,
North Bend, OR.


Generation No. 2

2.  EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 02 August 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died 11 November 1965 in North Bend, OR.  She
married ZENO ZABRISKIE 26 June 1907 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03
September 1876 in Osage, KS, and died 30 October 1956 in Springfield, OR.

Children of EDITH SMITH and ZENO ZABRISKIE are:
	i.	CEDRIC DONALD3 ZABRISKIE, b. 17 April 1908, Gardiner, OR; d.
25 December
2001, Turner, Marion Co., OR; m. MAE FOGELSONGER, 24 December 1932; b. 24
December 1913; d. 02 October 1995, Turner, OR.
	ii.	MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE, b. 30 October 1909, Gardiner, OR;
d. 26
September 2000, Springfield, Lane Co., OR; m. ETHEL SCHLUCKELBEIR, 21 June
1957; b. 10 March 1909; d. 14 May 1985, Springfield, OR.

More About MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE:
Burial: 29 September 2000, Greenwood Cemetery, Leaburg,  Lane Co., OR

	iii.	CHARLES HENRY ZABRISKIE, b. 27 February 1913, Douglas
County, OR; d.
08 June 1978, Escondido, CA; m. BERNICE GUTMAN, 29 May 1937, Eugene, OR; b.
21 December 1913, Pasadena, CA.
	iv.	RONALD ZENO ZABRISKIE, b. 15 July 1917, Gardiner, OR.
	v.	ROBERT ALLAN ZABRISKIE, b. 17 August 1919, Gardiner, OR; m.
HELEN
MAYDOLE, 09 December 1949; b. 06 December 1930, Atkin, MN.


	vi.	ANNA MAE ZABRISKIE, b. 06 September 1921, Gardiner, OR; m.
(1) HOWARD
CLYDE BARNES, 03 March 1946, Eugene, OR; b. 18 January 1914, Boise, Idaho;
d. 05 March 1981, North Bend, OR; m. (2) JAMES RICHARD FERRY, 16 January
1993, North Bend, OR; b. 21 August 1913, New Rochelle, NY; d. 18 October
2001, North Bend, OR.
	vii.	JOHN THADEUS ZABRISKIE, b. 13 August 1923, Santa Clara, OR;
d. 31
March 1976, Walterville, OR; m. MARGARET (MIDGE) RAIE JONES, 05 January
1973.


3.  EMMA FRANCES2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 26 July 1887 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died January 1962 in Ilwaco, WA.  She married FREDERICK
WILLIAM RADFORD 18 March 1919 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 11 June 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died January 1960 in Ilwaco, WA.

Children of EMMA SMITH and FREDERICK RADFORD are:
	i.	HELEN3 RADFORD, b. 1912; d. 1912.
	ii.	ERLENE AUDREY RADFORD, b. 08 February 1913; d. 20 January
1945; m.
EVERETT J. FISHER.
	iii.	FRANCES EMFRED RADFORD, b. 04 February 1915, Astoria, OR; m.
WAYNE
GORDON BROWN, 15 November 1941, Long Beach, WA; b. 16 October 1914, Hobie,
Kansas; d. 17 February 1989, Tacoma, WA.
	iv.	WILFORD (BUD) ASTOR RADFORD, b. 26 July 1917, Astoria, OR;
d. 03
November 1969, Hilo, Hawaii; m. GENEVIEVE MEDAK, 25 December 1940,
Raymond,WA.


4.  ALICE PEARLE2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 20 September 1892 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 29 January 1969 in Portland, OR.  She married
ALBERT JOHNSON 25 March 1914 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 07 May 1890 in
CA, and died May 1949 in Portland, OR.

Child of ALICE SMITH and ALBERT JOHNSON is:
	i.	ROBERT ALLEN3 JOHNSON, b. 20 May 1915, San Pedro, CA; d. 25
December
2001, Portland, Multnomah Co., OR; m. VIRGINIA MACPHERSON, 11 September
1948, Portland, OR; b. 13 February 1923.

5.  RUBY ISABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 04 March 1895 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 04 May 1974 in Salem, OR.  She married SIGURD
ABRAHAMSEN 06 August 1921 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03 November 1889 in
Mandal, Norway, and died 30 January 1978 in Salem, OR.

Children of RUBY SMITH and SIGURD ABRAHAMSEN are:
	i.	PHILLIP HAROLD3 ABRAHAMSEN, b. 15 April 1926, Coos Bay, OR;
m. AVA DORIS
BEBER, 20 November 1948, Coos Bay, OR; b. 20 February 1930, Cudahay, WI.
	ii.	DONALD ELWIN ABRAHAMSEN, b. 10 January 1929, North Bend, OR;
m. EUNICE
CAROLINE HIVELEY, 20 March 1955, Corvallis, OR; b. 04 September 1935, North
Dakota.


6.  GLADYS MABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 16 January 1898 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 12 July 1991 in Portland, OR.  She married CHARLES
EDWARD ASVIK 01 July 1925 in Vancouver, WA.  He was born 17 March 1891 in
Oulu, Finland, and died 20 August 1944 in Portland, OR.

Children of GLADYS SMITH and CHARLES ASVIK are:
	i.	MARY JOSEPHINE3 ASVIK, b. 06 March 1929, Portland, OR; m.
FRANK T.
BORREGO, 13 June 1964, Carson City, NV; b. 08 October 1921, Aguilar, CO.
	ii.	CHARLEEN EDRIE ASVIK, b. 27 December 1932, Salem, Oregon; m.
WALTER
FRANK OERDING, JR, 19 June 1954, Portland, OR; b. 21 May 1932, Coquille, OR.


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From LAUBREY1 at aol.com  Sat Feb 13 13:01:00 2010
From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com (LAUBREY1 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:01:00 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Useful links and other hints
Message-ID: <cd99.6a52d5f7.38a86d0c@aol.com>

Les; Thank you for the information and for sharing. A lot of new  
information, reminder of old info and  great web sites. 
 
Linda
 
 
In a message dated 2/13/2010 12:40:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
reedsportchapmans at verizon.net writes:

I just  ran across this and thought I would share it again in case some of
you have  missed some of these. I checked and they all work, though you will
have to  search out the actual search page on the New Brunswick link. Also
Vital  search is now pretty much all a pay site, but still can get a little
bit  out of them free.

Les C

Researching Government  Records

Local government record sources  vary by size of community  and general
variations; County seats and other administrative centers are  going to have
more information. Smaller communities may have no organized  official 
records
at all.

How well records were kept varied a great  deal over time and by areas.
Massachusetts has many small communities where  excellent records were  kept
from fairly early in their history and  have been compiled into easily 
usable
books. Conversely the deep South has  many communities where almost no
records exist before 1865 as a result of  the War of Rebellion.

Unfortunately even areas where the norm was to  keep good records there have
been lapses. One set of records near and dear  to me is the Concord,
Massachusetts Vital Records as  nearly every  page has Kin on it and half of
some pages are in my family file;   Concord Registers Book 1 page 7: "From
the date (September 17, 1659) when  Simon Willard made the foregoing return
until February, 1654, no record of  Births, Marriages and Deaths in Concord
is to be found    .   .    ."

The most common repository of records in  the U.S. is in County seats, or
similar government levels, this is commonly  where almost all probate 
records
and land records will be found. Often  these are the only records that are
available with any useful information,  especially in 18th century and
earlier.

Again there is a wide  variation in how helpful county governmental bodies
are concerning requests  for information. I recently visited the Douglas
County Courthouse and found  the staff very supportive of my quest which was
very different from my  previous visit where I seemed to be "imposing" on
them to be there at all.  Perhaps my previous visit I just caught them on a
bad day. Some county  seats have a very good system for finding records and
on the other hand at  PLSO conference a few years back the County surveyor
for one of the smaller  Eastern Oregon Counties mentioned that his records
were in two or three  cardboard boxes under a desk in is office.

States have a wide degree of  variation, not only in what they will share,
but how easy it is to  get.

Getting anything out of the Federal Government usually involves  paperwork,
patience and money in about equal amounts.

On the  following pages you will find some examples of currently  available
information from various sources.

For specific locations  my best recommendation is to google the location 
name
and "search within  results" for genealogy to get some relevant listings. I
have often located  specific postings for people of interest by following
with another   "search within results" for surname.

What the good web sites you find  this way will have is listings of where
lookups may be available, what  online information is available and most
important,  who and where to  contact city, county or State offices for
copies of original  documents.






First some of my favorites;

For  the state of Missouri for  starters;

http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/birthdeath/

This  is a somewhat complex site, but it provides you with pdf's of actual
birth  and death records for the 19th century as they have them available,
and  also index entries for some of the 20th century, these indexes are  
quite
helpful, much more info than your usual "name and date and county of  birth
if your lucky, these have mother's maiden name and some other details  
though
they are very insistent that you should order the actual document  cause 
they
can't guarantee the info. A lot of the birth entries do not have  child's
given name, it seems to me even some of the original certs don't,  and as I
said the person you are looking for might or might not be  available.

Closer to home for  me;

http://www.deathindexes.com/oregon/index.html

some of the  information on this page is fee based, but the Oregon Death
Index 1903-1930  is a freebie and some of the county info is also. For those
with specific  Oregon requests they should contact me off list as I may be
able to connect  them to resources for lookups in some areas that  aren't
obvious.

California;
Rootsweb death  index;

http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi

http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/

the worst of that site are the pre 1940  death indexes which are poor 
quality
scans of the index pages, if you have  some skill at digitally enhancing 
them
they become a little easier to read,  but i am sure I have a dozen or so
misread dates in my data file, but am  too cheap to order the certs. (you 
may
notice a pattern here, I pretty much  only pay for folks in my immediate
ancestry, or where I can find a real  bargain, unless I am getting stuff out
of county courthouse records or for  someone  else)

Illinois;

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/databases.html

very  good for indexes of death and marriage, no birth info. One of  the
eccentricities is some states won't give you birth info, some won't  give 
you
marriage, but everybody figures after your dead your info should  be
available.

Also in  Illinois;

http://jersey.ilgenweb.net/          granted this is mostly just one county,
but if you happen have kin there,  or if they ever were there for any period
of time this site may have  something on them.

New  Brunswick;

http://genealogy.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.gnb.ca/Arc
hives/e/Default.asp

yes,  I know that isn't part of the Western United states, but thought I'd
throw  it in.

Washington Vital Records; Washington (the state) is making the  most
comprehensive effort to make vital records available, the key to using  
these
however is to click on the "show all records" link for the record  type you
are interested in and then you can come back to this page when you  are
through, if you just click on the record type you have to go back and  start
a new search when you finish that type and clicking on the "open in a  new
window" just gets you an error  message.

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/default.aspx

here is  what Wheeler nets in that database; oops, never mind that! I've
never done  that before, the page I meant to paste in here was 15 lines, but
somehow it  was linked to the  "show all records" and for most of the sets 
of
less  than a hundred it showed them!  Here again a lot of originals  are
available as pdf or whatever ( another nice feature is they give you  a
choice of formats) but not by any means all of what is even  indexed.


Western states marriage  index;

http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/westernStates/search.cfm

apparently  this is based at least in part on contributions or some arcane
system of  deciding what to include; the Oregon entries seem to be mostly
east of the  Cascades. I think it may have to do with teh host for  the
database??

Last but not least;  Arizona;

http://genealogy.az.gov/

I thought they had marriage  too, but I don't see it, they are most open
about stuff as they seem to  have a lot available and it comes as a pdf of
rhe original


For  persons of Massachusetts ancestry try googling the town name followed  
by
the words vital records and you may be able to download the entire book  of
vital records up to 1850. This will also get you similar results for a  few
other locations. People with a large number of towns of interest there  
might
want to inquire of my personal  database.

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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sat Feb 13 13:05:24 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:05:24 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this
In-Reply-To: <006b01caaced$19842e00$4c8c8a00$@net>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEENGCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Pat, I figured out where it came from, I have it saved under Douglas County
History. I still can't really imagine why, but I think I will hang on to it
a while just in case there was a good reason. Maybe you could give Tim my
contact info, he might like to have a copy.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of
Kith-n-Kin
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:43 PM
To: 'or-roots mail list'
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Why would I have this


Les

This tree in on Ancestry, someone named Tim. Except that your copy has much
more information on the newer generations.

I'd ditch it if I were you.

Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie
Chapman
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:21 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this

Here is a mystery for you; I have this file in the stuff resurected (sp?)
from  my dead "My Book" and for the life of me cannot imagine  why unless it
was for someone else on the list, anybody recognize this?

If this is of interest to anyone I can send you the whole file off list, the
notes are about twice as long as what you see here.

Les C



From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Sat Feb 13 13:51:36 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:51:36 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEENGCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <006b01caaced$19842e00$4c8c8a00$@net>
	<FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEENGCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
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Les

On further examination, there are 18 "public trees" and two Ancestry trees. 

Plus, these folks have been baptized in the LDS, sealed, etc.  I doubt you
want to initiate conversations with all of them. 

Of course, if anyone now Googles any of the names, they're going to get what
you copied to us, so it's "out there" anyway.

Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie
Chapman
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:05 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Why would I have this

Pat, I figured out where it came from, I have it saved under Douglas County
History. I still can't really imagine why, but I think I will hang on to it
a while just in case there was a good reason. Maybe you could give Tim my
contact info, he might like to have a copy.

Les



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 13 18:56:25 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:56:25 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Simkins southern oregon
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20100213122901.019f54e0@frontiernet.net>
References: <mailman.52.1266091221.3102.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
	<7.0.1.0.1.20100213122901.019f54e0@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4B776659.9080504@earthlink.net>

Sally wrote:

>  Lettie A. Simpkins  marriage to Edgar Vandorn 2/4/1894 vol 3 page 449 


Thank you Sally!   :-)

Lettie is acutally Lottie, for Charlotte A Simpkins in the 1880 US 
Census, Linn County, KS, Sheridan Twp,  pg 138B

Apparently she didn't like the "Char" bit

The rest of them raise some interesting questions about who they were 
and why thery were there -- questions I don't have an immediate answer 
for, although I do have some Ishams in KY in another branch of my family 
-- once one knows enuf, everybody is related to everybody else anyway ...

Bill Strickland


From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Sat Feb 13 19:04:49 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:04:49 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8D08DEADDE0B4AEFB3AFE087B86EF525@HP><412536.44441.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><570CEA67EBB044DAB7EA15151F43F12B@OwnerPC>
	<7EAFF6717059462B9A0DA8097059D122@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <057B67FD09454F589DA8E3AFF0336B23@AroundHome>

Ok
I found my Henry Rogers on the 1900 Springfield Oregon census with wife and son/
    He was 70 at this time.
 He is also originally from NY this is a good clue.
Wish it gave middle names.
Now to find a death date and most likely ignore the Henry of CA of the same death date? I have 3 Henry Rogers died 1909.

2 are from NY.
I will see what I can find out.
another clue is one of the people in this tree ( Ward or Brothers ) is second cousin to the old Queen of Holland - Wilhelmina.

Dan M 
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sat Feb 13 20:18:07 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:18:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
In-Reply-To: <057B67FD09454F589DA8E3AFF0336B23@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEMENICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Dan; thought I'd  take a shot at one of the links I posted earlier;

      Oregon Death Index Search Results
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Records Found: 5
      Name Death Date County Certificate #
      Rogers, Henry James 27 March 1925 Tillamook 28
      Rogers, Henry E 22 January 1913 Washington 664
      Rogers, Henry Wm 31 August 1920 Umatilla 235
      Rogers, Henry Mansel 06 September 1920 Lane 292
      Rogers, Henry 30 April 1909 Baker 927



Does Mansel work for a middle name?

Les C
  -----Original Message-----
  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
  Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:05 PM
  To: or-roots mail list
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  Ok
  I found my Henry Rogers on the 1900 Springfield Oregon census with wife
and son/
      He was 70 at this time.
   He is also originally from NY this is a good clue.
  Wish it gave middle names.
  Now to find a death date and most likely ignore the Henry of CA of the
same death date? I have 3 Henry Rogers died 1909.

  2 are from NY.
  I will see what I can find out.
  another clue is one of the people in this tree ( Ward or Brothers ) is
second cousin to the old Queen of Holland - Wilhelmina.

  Dan M
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sat Feb 13 22:23:32 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:23:32 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEMENICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C38CCFE2673242B4887276EC592C468A@AroundHome>

I have the death cert for Mansel, its the wrong one.
Still looking up things I found all my notes and papers finally, only just missing one small box of letters.
    He lived in Springfield most all the time from the census I found.
I will save this. I can check it with what I have in the morning when I have my morning tea.
Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Leslie Chapman 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  Dan; thought I'd  take a shot at one of the links I posted earlier;

        Oregon Death Index Search Results 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
       
        Records Found: 5  
        Name Death Date County Certificate # 
        Rogers, Henry James 27 March 1925 Tillamook 28 
        Rogers, Henry E 22 January 1913 Washington 664 
        Rogers, Henry Wm 31 August 1920 Umatilla 235 
        Rogers, Henry Mansel 06 September 1920 Lane 292 
        Rogers, Henry 30 April 1909 Baker 927 



  Does Mansel work for a middle name?

  Les C
    -----Original Message-----
    From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
    Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:05 PM
    To: or-roots mail list
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


    Ok
    I found my Henry Rogers on the 1900 Springfield Oregon census with wife and son/
        He was 70 at this time.
     He is also originally from NY this is a good clue.
    Wish it gave middle names.
    Now to find a death date and most likely ignore the Henry of CA of the same death date? I have 3 Henry Rogers died 1909.

    2 are from NY.
    I will see what I can find out.
    another clue is one of the people in this tree ( Ward or Brothers ) is second cousin to the old Queen of Holland - Wilhelmina.

    Dan M 


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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 14 00:26:22 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:26:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEMENICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <6F1395CFEA60465AA1C0538390C8F4A6@AroundHome>

On reading a death cert for another member of the family I learned Henry Rogers is = William Henry Rogers .
We had company tonight from over 130 miles away brought me some supplies.
So I was busy till 935 pm and reading the rest of it.
   I found all my Rogers notes.
 Census papers to death certs, lots of pages. And no death date.
I will check out the Wm Rogers below,, but he is on the 1900 census as 70 . Thats pushing the age a bit.
Dan.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Leslie Chapman 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  Dan; thought I'd  take a shot at one of the links I posted earlier;

        Oregon Death Index Search Results 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
       
        Records Found: 5  
        Name Death Date County Certificate # 
        Rogers, Henry James 27 March 1925 Tillamook 28 
        Rogers, Henry E 22 January 1913 Washington 664 
        Rogers, Henry Wm 31 August 1920 Umatilla 235 
        Rogers, Henry Mansel 06 September 1920 Lane 292 
        Rogers, Henry 30 April 1909 Baker 927 



  Does Mansel work for a middle name?

  Les C
    -----Original Message-----
    From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
    Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:05 PM
    To: or-roots mail list
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


    Ok
    I found my Henry Rogers on the 1900 Springfield Oregon census with wife and son/
        He was 70 at this time.
     He is also originally from NY this is a good clue.
    Wish it gave middle names.
    Now to find a death date and most likely ignore the Henry of CA of the same death date? I have 3 Henry Rogers died 1909.

    2 are from NY.
    I will see what I can find out.
    another clue is one of the people in this tree ( Ward or Brothers ) is second cousin to the old Queen of Holland - Wilhelmina.

    Dan M 


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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 14 09:51:05 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:51:05 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] 'An Interesting Letter' - Lt Thomas J. Small
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It looks like there were several generations of this Simkins/Simkins 
family here in Oregon in the latter 1800's, and, in chasing these long 
gone people through the ether of this computer mad world, I came across 
this letter, found it of interest, and thought I should share it more 
widly -- there may be more items of interest at the link following the 
page below

from http://gesswhoto.com/1899-interesting-letter.html

Vol. 1 May, 1899 No. 1
An Interesting Letter

Jefferson City, Mo., Jan. 15, 1899. - T.A. Wood, Grand Commander Indian 
War Veterans - Mr. Dear Sir: I never desired a biography of myself to be 
written. The world and mankind are not interested in my adventures, 
struggles, afflictions, sad bereavements and tender affections. The pen 
of no true friend, or myself, can at this time furnish thought to 
illuminate my very dark pathway this far in life. It seems to me now 
that there was never a sound reason, or necessity, for my having to 
breathe, but, as I did breathe, it has always seemed to me that I should 
have breathed the sweetest, brightest and balmiest air on earth. I am 
now convinced that the world never wanted me, as no important place was 
created for me to fill. Lieutenant Thomas J. Small was born in Mount 
Pleasant, Maury county, Tennessee, December 9, 1834, and spent his 
boyhood days there, in attending school and in learning a trade with his 
father. He came of steady Scotch-Irish stock. He moved to Missouri with 
his father in 1852, and settled in Otterville, Cooper county, in May. In 
the spring of 1853 he spread his wings, left his home nest and started 
across the plains for Oregon, to build for himself, if possible, a home 
nest on the Pacific slope. He was six months and eleven days crossing 
the plains, and settled in the town of Champoeg, Marion county, in the 
fall of 1853. Champoeg was a small, old town, built on the bank of the 
beautiful Willamette river, at the head of steamboat navigation in 
summer, 25 miles from Salem or Oregon City. Much history of Oregon 
springs from this place. It was here Lieutenant Small formed the 
acquaintance of Robert Newell, J. D. Crawford, David Weston, John 
Howard, Ed Dupuise, John Mull, Hiram Simpkins, Reese, John and Mark 
Stephens, and Green Arnold, American pioneers and history-makers. Also 
with hundreds of French pioneers, among whom were N.A. Connoyer, Antoin 
Revais, Chamberlains, Joseph Despard and many others. It was here he 
first met O. Hummason of The Dalles, Victor Trevitt, of Salem, and John 
Smith, from across the river near Butteville. In the summer of 1854 he 
was in the Rogue river country with Mr. Hyde, a government surveyor, who 
had a contract to survey and plat 76 townships in that part of the 
territory.

An Indian war broke out in Eastern Oregon and Washington in 1855, and, 
under a proclamation of Governor George L. Curry, Connoyer, Revais and 
Small recruited a company at Champoeg, of French, French half-breeds and 
four or five Americans, most all of whom were from French prairie. 
Narcisse A. Connoyer was elected captain, A. Revais first lieutenant and 
T.J. Small second lieutenant. The organization was known as company K, 
was mustered in at Portland, October 30, 1855, and immediately started 
for The Dalles, by way of Fort Vancouver and the Cascades. With the 
beginning of this march the company commenced to make history for itself 
and Oregon. The greatest mistake possible for any man to make is to 
endeavor to correct errors of early historians from memory. It is well 
known that a great majority of men are born into this world without a 
good thinking apparatus on their shoulders, but, if I differ from some 
of your early historians, I hope they will not accuse me of thinking wrong.

I was quietly puffing at my meerschaum - a Missouri cob - when "The 
History of Indian Wars in Oregon" came to hand. I drew a meditative 
whiff and gave a low whistle, as I opened it at "The Yakima War" and 
then commenced to devour its contents. After reading the part devoted to 
the Oregon troops, the thought came to me, If this is true history, 
Lieutenant T.J. Small was not in any Indian war, company K was never 
enlisted, Governor Curry never issued a proclamation calling for 
volunteers, and such men as J.W. Nesmith, James K. Kelly, Mark A. Chinn 
and Narcisse A. Connoyer never existed, except in the prolific 
imagination of myself, and all my day dreams, for forty-odd years, of 
being engaged in an Indian war in Eastern Oregon, must be a myth. So all 
my visions of those days vanished in smoke. All historians and makers of 
history should remember that character and reputation for fairness, 
truth and honor, is the most enduring of riches. No one expects a 
historian to be generous, but he is expected to be truthful and just.

The march to the relief of Major Haller, through snow and extreme cold, 
by the First regiment, O.M.V., and the incidents connected with it, is 
hardly noticed. All who made that march, through snow, sometimes three 
feet deep, and a bitter cold wind, will remember it through life. The 
command found Major Haller, and returned with him in safety to The 
Dalles, from which point Captain Connoyer was ordered to march 
immediately to Fort Henrietta, to reinforce Major Mark A. Chinn, which 
he did. Captain Connoyer, with company K, arrived at Fort Henrietta 
November 27, and went into camp outside the fort. With it arrived 
Lieutenant-Colonel James K. Kelly. I know not with whom he left The 
Dalles, but I am sure he arrived at Fort Henrietta under escort of 
company K. Here I met for the first time the brave, noble, warm-hearted 
and generous Major Mark A. Chinn, who built the fort and named it, but 
for this work he was secretly charged with cowardice by some of his 
small under-officers. At the battle of Laroque's farm these same men 
learned who the cowards were, and Major Chinn was not one of them. A 
braver, truer and kinder man I never met in the army. Sweet to me, even 
now, is the memory of this noble man.

Upon arriving at Fort Henrietta, Lieutenant-Colonel Kelly took command. 
He called a council of war, at which it was decided to move at one for 
Fort Walla Walla. Orders were given to prepare rations and be ready to 
move at sun-down, December 2, which was done. It rained most of the nigh 
and was very dark, still our little force moved on silently. I know not 
when other companies arrived at Fort Walla Walla, but ours got there 
with both feet, a little after sunrise. We found the fort robbed and 
plundered, the interior badly defaced, and the Indian devils gone. We 
went into camp a short distance from the fort on the morning of the 3d. 
On the 3d, 4th, 5th and 6th we skirmished with Indians. Company K 
marched alone into Indian valley, into a deep ravine on the Touchet 
river, and scouted all that country, returning to Meina camp, at the 
mouth of the Touchet, on the night of the 6th. Peu Peu Mox Mox, or 
Yellow Serpent, and those with him were killed, and the body of Peu Peu 
Mox Mox mutilated, ears cut off, scalped and other indignities, on the 
night of December 6, in camp at mouth of Touchet river, and not during 
the battle of Laroque's farm. On the morning of the 7th, the Indians 
came down from the hills across the Touchet, under a flag of truce, and 
demanded the release of their chief and the other prisoners. After 
exchanging flags a few times, Lieutenant-Colonel Kelly ordered Captain 
N.A. Connoyer and Captain O. Hummason, with their companies, to cross 
the Touchet and take position to defend camp. Company K moved across. 
Hummason, with the Wasco boys, followed, and one other company, not now 
remembered, and soon the four days' fight was on, known as the battle of 
Laroque's farm. We had fun chasing the red-skinned beauties seven miles, 
but, when the entire force of Indians met us at Laroque's farm, the fun 
was over, and business of vital importance was on hand, for it kept us 
all busy to retain scalps on our heads. For four days this bitter and 
hard-contested battle raged, no one knowing what the result might be. 
Every inch of ground was fought over, and the contending forces camped 
in sight of each other. To the music of the tom-tom Indians danced the 
scalp dance every night. Stubborn pluck of the whites at last scattered 
the Indians, with a loss to them of about 180. If any of the First 
regiment, O.M.V.'s, had bayonets on their guns I failed to see them, and 
my eyes were wide open, so those bayonet charges are pure fiction. The 
howitzer that exploded did so from being loaded with trind balls and 
sand, the balls having been poured out on the sand. I, with company K, 
was near when it happened.

On December 9, 1855, Lieutenant T.J. Small was 21 years old, and in 
battle with Indians in Walla Walla valley. Have never celebrated my 
birthday in the same way. After the battle of Laroque's farm the command 
moved to Howlish Wampool camp, where he had built a fort to protect 
himself, friendly Indians and settlers from bad Indians. Found them all 
safe and winter coming on. The Indians and settlers were moved on to the 
Walla Walla river, and Lieutenant T.J. Small, with a part of company K, 
detailed to guard them and their property. Remained with them until 
spring. The main camp was in winter quarters, 14 miles away. Colonel 
Cornelius will, or should, know this statement true, as he was in my 
camp, after cattle - but, will close this. May some day finish my 
rambling story. Respectfully yours,

T.J. Small



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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sun Feb 14 11:58:40 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:58:40 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
In-Reply-To: <6F1395CFEA60465AA1C0538390C8F4A6@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENLCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Okay, how about William H.

      Name Death Date County Certificate #
      Rogers, William F 03 October 1923 Marion 663
      Rogers, William 02 July 1923 Jackson 127
      Rogers, William Dennett 03 July 1929 Douglas 133
      Rogers, William Bradford 25 May 1929 Coos 121
      Rogers, William C 09 October 1917 Tillamook 35
      Rogers, William Bruce 13 August 1919 Lane 218
      Rogers, William H 06 February 1913 Douglas 1012

  http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/douglas/rosenat/roseburg_pr.htm

  Rogers, W H, d. 02/06/1913, USN, Plot: A 11 R30,
  That help with whether he is the right one? Maybe he went to the VA
hospital, Oh, wait, don't think it has been there that long. Hmm? too bad I
don't know my county history better.
  Les


  On reading a death cert for another member of the family I learned Henry
Rogers is = William Henry Rogers .
  We had company tonight from over 130 miles away brought me some supplies.
  So I was busy till 935 pm and reading the rest of it.
     I found all my Rogers notes.
   Census papers to death certs, lots of pages. And no death date.
  I will check out the Wm Rogers below,, but he is on the 1900 census as 70
. Thats pushing the age a bit.
  Dan.
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 14 12:12:08 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:12:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENLCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENLCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <216136.93911.qm@web112406.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

William H. Rogers you're suggesting could be this one:

Granted an increase in Pension - Mexican War - William Hanson Rogers, Myrtle Point, $12
San Francisco Call, Volume 87, Number 59, 28 January 1902 


 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)




________________________________
From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 11:58:40 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown

 
Okay, 
how about William H.
 
Name Death Date County Certificate # 
Rogers, William F 03 October 1923 Marion 663 
Rogers, William 02 July 1923 Jackson 127 
Rogers, William Dennett 03 July 1929 Douglas 133 
Rogers, William Bradford 25 May 1929 Coos 121 
Rogers, William C 09 October 1917 Tillamook 35 
Rogers, William Bruce 13 August 1919 Lane 218 
Rogers, William H 06 February 1913 Douglas 1012 
http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/douglas/rosenat/roseburg_pr.htm
>
>Rogers, 
>  W H, d. 02/06/1913, USN, Plot: A 11 R30, 
 
>That help with whether he is the right one? Maybe he 
>  went to the VA hospital, Oh, wait, don't think it has been there that long. 
>  Hmm? too bad I don't know my county history better.
 
>Les 
>
> 
>On reading a death cert for another member of the family 
>  I learned Henry Rogers is = William Henry Rogers .
>We had company tonight from over 130 miles away brought 
>  me some supplies.
>So I was busy till 935 pm and reading the rest of 
>  it.
>   I found all my Rogers notes.
> Census papers to death certs, lots of pages. And 
>  no death date.
>I will check out the Wm Rogers below,, but he is on the 
>  1900 census as 70 . Thats pushing the age a bit.
>Dan.


      
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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 14 13:06:14 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:06:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEIENECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEIENECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <726686.67319.qm@web112409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Les- Just getting a chance to look at this. You didn't put it together for me specifically, but since it deals with Coos county, go ahead and send me what you have. I'll add it to my files for some future researcher.

 Robyn
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________________________________
From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:21:22 PM
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this

Here is a mystery for you; I have this file in the stuff resurected (sp?)
from  my dead "My Book" and for the life of me cannot imagine  why unless it
was for someone else on the list, anybody recognize this?

If this is of interest to anyone I can send you the whole file off list, the
notes are about twice as long as what you see here.

Les C


Descendants of Charles Smith


Generation No. 1

1.  CHARLES1 SMITH was born 20 September 1857 in Northampton, England, and
died 29 September 1937 in North Bend, OR.  He married JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE
06 May 1884 in Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, daughter of WILLIAM MACE and MARY
MOORE.  She was born 10 December 1860 in Kingsbury, Quebec, Canada, and died
03 March 1938 in North Bend, OR.

Notes for JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE:
Marriage date was recorded at the Methodist Church, Records of Durham, P.Q.
Canada.

Children of CHARLES SMITH and JOSEPHINE MACE are:
2.    i.    EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH, b. 02 August 1885, Ulverton, Quebec,
Canada; d. 11 November 1965, North Bend, OR.
3.    ii.    EMMA FRANCES SMITH, b. 26 July 1887, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d.
January 1962, Ilwaco, WA.
4.    iii.    ALICE PEARLE SMITH, b. 20 September 1892, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada;
d. 29 January 1969, Portland, OR.
5.    iv.    RUBY ISABEL SMITH, b. 04 March 1895, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d. 04
May 1974, Salem, OR.
6.    v.    GLADYS MABEL SMITH, b. 16 January 1898, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d.
12 July 1991, Portland, OR.
    vi.    RETA ERLENE SMITH, b. 10 April 1904, Gardiner, OR; d. September 1990,
North Bend, OR.


Generation No. 2

2.  EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 02 August 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died 11 November 1965 in North Bend, OR.  She
married ZENO ZABRISKIE 26 June 1907 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03
September 1876 in Osage, KS, and died 30 October 1956 in Springfield, OR.

Children of EDITH SMITH and ZENO ZABRISKIE are:
    i.    CEDRIC DONALD3 ZABRISKIE, b. 17 April 1908, Gardiner, OR; d. 25 December
2001, Turner, Marion Co., OR; m. MAE FOGELSONGER, 24 December 1932; b. 24
December 1913; d. 02 October 1995, Turner, OR.
    ii.    MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE, b. 30 October 1909, Gardiner, OR; d. 26
September 2000, Springfield, Lane Co., OR; m. ETHEL SCHLUCKELBEIR, 21 June
1957; b. 10 March 1909; d. 14 May 1985, Springfield, OR.

More About MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE:
Burial: 29 September 2000, Greenwood Cemetery, Leaburg,  Lane Co., OR

    iii.    CHARLES HENRY ZABRISKIE, b. 27 February 1913, Douglas County, OR; d.
08 June 1978, Escondido, CA; m. BERNICE GUTMAN, 29 May 1937, Eugene, OR; b.
21 December 1913, Pasadena, CA.
    iv.    RONALD ZENO ZABRISKIE, b. 15 July 1917, Gardiner, OR.
    v.    ROBERT ALLAN ZABRISKIE, b. 17 August 1919, Gardiner, OR; m. HELEN
MAYDOLE, 09 December 1949; b. 06 December 1930, Atkin, MN.


    vi.    ANNA MAE ZABRISKIE, b. 06 September 1921, Gardiner, OR; m. (1) HOWARD
CLYDE BARNES, 03 March 1946, Eugene, OR; b. 18 January 1914, Boise, Idaho;
d. 05 March 1981, North Bend, OR; m. (2) JAMES RICHARD FERRY, 16 January
1993, North Bend, OR; b. 21 August 1913, New Rochelle, NY; d. 18 October
2001, North Bend, OR.
    vii.    JOHN THADEUS ZABRISKIE, b. 13 August 1923, Santa Clara, OR; d. 31
March 1976, Walterville, OR; m. MARGARET (MIDGE) RAIE JONES, 05 January
1973.


3.  EMMA FRANCES2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 26 July 1887 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died January 1962 in Ilwaco, WA.  She married FREDERICK
WILLIAM RADFORD 18 March 1919 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 11 June 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died January 1960 in Ilwaco, WA.

Children of EMMA SMITH and FREDERICK RADFORD are:
    i.    HELEN3 RADFORD, b. 1912; d. 1912.
    ii.    ERLENE AUDREY RADFORD, b. 08 February 1913; d. 20 January 1945; m.
EVERETT J. FISHER.
    iii.    FRANCES EMFRED RADFORD, b. 04 February 1915, Astoria, OR; m. WAYNE
GORDON BROWN, 15 November 1941, Long Beach, WA; b. 16 October 1914, Hobie,
Kansas; d. 17 February 1989, Tacoma, WA.
    iv.    WILFORD (BUD) ASTOR RADFORD, b. 26 July 1917, Astoria, OR; d. 03
November 1969, Hilo, Hawaii; m. GENEVIEVE MEDAK, 25 December 1940,
Raymond,WA.


4.  ALICE PEARLE2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 20 September 1892 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 29 January 1969 in Portland, OR.  She married
ALBERT JOHNSON 25 March 1914 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 07 May 1890 in
CA, and died May 1949 in Portland, OR.

Child of ALICE SMITH and ALBERT JOHNSON is:
    i.    ROBERT ALLEN3 JOHNSON, b. 20 May 1915, San Pedro, CA; d. 25 December
2001, Portland, Multnomah Co., OR; m. VIRGINIA MACPHERSON, 11 September
1948, Portland, OR; b. 13 February 1923.

5.  RUBY ISABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 04 March 1895 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 04 May 1974 in Salem, OR.  She married SIGURD
ABRAHAMSEN 06 August 1921 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03 November 1889 in
Mandal, Norway, and died 30 January 1978 in Salem, OR.

Children of RUBY SMITH and SIGURD ABRAHAMSEN are:
    i.    PHILLIP HAROLD3 ABRAHAMSEN, b. 15 April 1926, Coos Bay, OR; m. AVA DORIS
BEBER, 20 November 1948, Coos Bay, OR; b. 20 February 1930, Cudahay, WI.
    ii.    DONALD ELWIN ABRAHAMSEN, b. 10 January 1929, North Bend, OR; m. EUNICE
CAROLINE HIVELEY, 20 March 1955, Corvallis, OR; b. 04 September 1935, North
Dakota.


6.  GLADYS MABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 16 January 1898 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 12 July 1991 in Portland, OR.  She married CHARLES
EDWARD ASVIK 01 July 1925 in Vancouver, WA.  He was born 17 March 1891 in
Oulu, Finland, and died 20 August 1944 in Portland, OR.

Children of GLADYS SMITH and CHARLES ASVIK are:
    i.    MARY JOSEPHINE3 ASVIK, b. 06 March 1929, Portland, OR; m. FRANK T.
BORREGO, 13 June 1964, Carson City, NV; b. 08 October 1921, Aguilar, CO.
    ii.    CHARLEEN EDRIE ASVIK, b. 27 December 1932, Salem, Oregon; m. WALTER
FRANK OERDING, JR, 19 June 1954, Portland, OR; b. 21 May 1932, Coquille, OR.


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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 14 13:07:58 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:07:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEIENECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEIENECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <967848.55530.qm@web112411.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

And did Charleen Oerding <hotomy at hevanet.com> contact you about it? She's listed on the bottom of this report and is also one of the OR-List folks.

 Robyn
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________________________________
From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:21:22 PM
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this

Here is a mystery for you; I have this file in the stuff resurected (sp?)
from  my dead "My Book" and for the life of me cannot imagine  why unless it
was for someone else on the list, anybody recognize this?

If this is of interest to anyone I can send you the whole file off list, the
notes are about twice as long as what you see here.

Les C


Descendants of Charles Smith


Generation No. 1

1.  CHARLES1 SMITH was born 20 September 1857 in Northampton, England, and
died 29 September 1937 in North Bend, OR.  He married JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE
06 May 1884 in Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, daughter of WILLIAM MACE and MARY
MOORE.  She was born 10 December 1860 in Kingsbury, Quebec, Canada, and died
03 March 1938 in North Bend, OR.

Notes for JOSEPHINE LOUISE MACE:
Marriage date was recorded at the Methodist Church, Records of Durham, P.Q.
Canada.

Children of CHARLES SMITH and JOSEPHINE MACE are:
2.    i.    EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH, b. 02 August 1885, Ulverton, Quebec,
Canada; d. 11 November 1965, North Bend, OR.
3.    ii.    EMMA FRANCES SMITH, b. 26 July 1887, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d.
January 1962, Ilwaco, WA.
4.    iii.    ALICE PEARLE SMITH, b. 20 September 1892, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada;
d. 29 January 1969, Portland, OR.
5.    iv.    RUBY ISABEL SMITH, b. 04 March 1895, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d. 04
May 1974, Salem, OR.
6.    v.    GLADYS MABEL SMITH, b. 16 January 1898, Ulverton, Quebec, Canada; d.
12 July 1991, Portland, OR.
    vi.    RETA ERLENE SMITH, b. 10 April 1904, Gardiner, OR; d. September 1990,
North Bend, OR.


Generation No. 2

2.  EDITH MARY AUGUSTA2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 02 August 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died 11 November 1965 in North Bend, OR.  She
married ZENO ZABRISKIE 26 June 1907 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03
September 1876 in Osage, KS, and died 30 October 1956 in Springfield, OR.

Children of EDITH SMITH and ZENO ZABRISKIE are:
    i.    CEDRIC DONALD3 ZABRISKIE, b. 17 April 1908, Gardiner, OR; d. 25 December
2001, Turner, Marion Co., OR; m. MAE FOGELSONGER, 24 December 1932; b. 24
December 1913; d. 02 October 1995, Turner, OR.
    ii.    MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE, b. 30 October 1909, Gardiner, OR; d. 26
September 2000, Springfield, Lane Co., OR; m. ETHEL SCHLUCKELBEIR, 21 June
1957; b. 10 March 1909; d. 14 May 1985, Springfield, OR.

More About MERVIN DOUGLAS ZABRISKIE:
Burial: 29 September 2000, Greenwood Cemetery, Leaburg,  Lane Co., OR

    iii.    CHARLES HENRY ZABRISKIE, b. 27 February 1913, Douglas County, OR; d.
08 June 1978, Escondido, CA; m. BERNICE GUTMAN, 29 May 1937, Eugene, OR; b.
21 December 1913, Pasadena, CA.
    iv.    RONALD ZENO ZABRISKIE, b. 15 July 1917, Gardiner, OR.
    v.    ROBERT ALLAN ZABRISKIE, b. 17 August 1919, Gardiner, OR; m. HELEN
MAYDOLE, 09 December 1949; b. 06 December 1930, Atkin, MN.


    vi.    ANNA MAE ZABRISKIE, b. 06 September 1921, Gardiner, OR; m. (1) HOWARD
CLYDE BARNES, 03 March 1946, Eugene, OR; b. 18 January 1914, Boise, Idaho;
d. 05 March 1981, North Bend, OR; m. (2) JAMES RICHARD FERRY, 16 January
1993, North Bend, OR; b. 21 August 1913, New Rochelle, NY; d. 18 October
2001, North Bend, OR.
    vii.    JOHN THADEUS ZABRISKIE, b. 13 August 1923, Santa Clara, OR; d. 31
March 1976, Walterville, OR; m. MARGARET (MIDGE) RAIE JONES, 05 January
1973.


3.  EMMA FRANCES2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 26 July 1887 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died January 1962 in Ilwaco, WA.  She married FREDERICK
WILLIAM RADFORD 18 March 1919 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 11 June 1885 in
Ulverton, Quebec, Canada, and died January 1960 in Ilwaco, WA.

Children of EMMA SMITH and FREDERICK RADFORD are:
    i.    HELEN3 RADFORD, b. 1912; d. 1912.
    ii.    ERLENE AUDREY RADFORD, b. 08 February 1913; d. 20 January 1945; m.
EVERETT J. FISHER.
    iii.    FRANCES EMFRED RADFORD, b. 04 February 1915, Astoria, OR; m. WAYNE
GORDON BROWN, 15 November 1941, Long Beach, WA; b. 16 October 1914, Hobie,
Kansas; d. 17 February 1989, Tacoma, WA.
    iv.    WILFORD (BUD) ASTOR RADFORD, b. 26 July 1917, Astoria, OR; d. 03
November 1969, Hilo, Hawaii; m. GENEVIEVE MEDAK, 25 December 1940,
Raymond,WA.


4.  ALICE PEARLE2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 20 September 1892 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 29 January 1969 in Portland, OR.  She married
ALBERT JOHNSON 25 March 1914 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 07 May 1890 in
CA, and died May 1949 in Portland, OR.

Child of ALICE SMITH and ALBERT JOHNSON is:
    i.    ROBERT ALLEN3 JOHNSON, b. 20 May 1915, San Pedro, CA; d. 25 December
2001, Portland, Multnomah Co., OR; m. VIRGINIA MACPHERSON, 11 September
1948, Portland, OR; b. 13 February 1923.

5.  RUBY ISABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 04 March 1895 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 04 May 1974 in Salem, OR.  She married SIGURD
ABRAHAMSEN 06 August 1921 in Gardiner, OR.  He was born 03 November 1889 in
Mandal, Norway, and died 30 January 1978 in Salem, OR.

Children of RUBY SMITH and SIGURD ABRAHAMSEN are:
    i.    PHILLIP HAROLD3 ABRAHAMSEN, b. 15 April 1926, Coos Bay, OR; m. AVA DORIS
BEBER, 20 November 1948, Coos Bay, OR; b. 20 February 1930, Cudahay, WI.
    ii.    DONALD ELWIN ABRAHAMSEN, b. 10 January 1929, North Bend, OR; m. EUNICE
CAROLINE HIVELEY, 20 March 1955, Corvallis, OR; b. 04 September 1935, North
Dakota.


6.  GLADYS MABEL2 SMITH (CHARLES1) was born 16 January 1898 in Ulverton,
Quebec, Canada, and died 12 July 1991 in Portland, OR.  She married CHARLES
EDWARD ASVIK 01 July 1925 in Vancouver, WA.  He was born 17 March 1891 in
Oulu, Finland, and died 20 August 1944 in Portland, OR.

Children of GLADYS SMITH and CHARLES ASVIK are:
    i.    MARY JOSEPHINE3 ASVIK, b. 06 March 1929, Portland, OR; m. FRANK T.
BORREGO, 13 June 1964, Carson City, NV; b. 08 October 1921, Aguilar, CO.
    ii.    CHARLEEN EDRIE ASVIK, b. 27 December 1932, Salem, Oregon; m. WALTER
FRANK OERDING, JR, 19 June 1954, Portland, OR; b. 21 May 1932, Coquille, OR.


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From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 14 13:10:01 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:10:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Another story of the wilds of Coos and Douglas county
	between Reedsport and Coos Bay....
Message-ID: <249457.14311.qm@web112402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Charleen and Les - hope you enjoy this one too!

 

A Dreadful Experience
Story of a Barren Beach Between
Gardiner and Empire City

The Los Angeles Herald has this story
of the Oregon coast:

The last part of the Pacific coast to
settle up will be that portion lying between Coos bay and the mouth
of the Umpqua river, a stretch of 22 miles, with as bleak and
inhospitable a bit of coast was ever seen. In the past 40 years as
many cessels have laid their bones on those cruel sands. From the
first settlement of Coos bay til 1859 there were no stages on that
beach. The mailcarrier made his weary journey on foot and was ferried
across the river by an Indian, who lived below the old fort.

Lewis Leibman, one of the oldest
commercial travelers on the coast, is staying at Hollenbeck. In 1871
he was engaged in purchasing hides and furs through that country, and
the mailcarrier on the beach was a sturdy Englishman names Joseph
Hare, nearly six feet high and a mass of muscle. They left Coos bay
about 2 p.m. And jogged along about three miles per hour up that
stormy beach. It was nearly 6 o'clock and quite dark when they
reached Winchester Head, a round butte that lies on the south bank of
the Umpqua. There they found a skiff that had been left for Hare to
cross in and shot out into the angry stream, swollen by winter rains
and roughened by a strong southerly wind. Frail as was the little
skiff, Hale managed her with consummate skill and was within 50 feet
of the opposity shore when a monster wave swamped the boat. Both men
came up at once and caught the gunwale of the boat, which they sought
to push toward the land, but the angry stream carried them down
toward the ocean several hundred yards before they could effect a
landing. Then it was that Leibman discovered that Joe Hare was so
badly chilled that he could not walk. He called loudly for help, but
no one heard him. To the Indian's cabin where the boat was usually
kept was about a half mile, but it seemed like five miles to the
sturdy little drummer, who shouldered his helpless companion and
walked along a narrow trail, a few steps at time. He was upwards of
an hour at this job when suddenly the welcome bark of an Indian dog
rang out on the cold night air. The Indian was away from home, but
his squaw came to his assistance, and the two benumbed travelers were
alongside of a warm fire in the Siwash's hut. Liebman is a much
smaller man than Hare, and his success in saving his comrade could be
ascribed to downright pluck and perserverance. In a conversation with
one of the Herald's reporters last night at the Hollenbeck, the
reporter recalled the incident, and the jolly little drummer laughed
heartlily over it, but it evidently was not much of a laughing matter
at the time it occurred.

A Dreadful Experience. Story of the
Barren Bench Between Gardiner and Empire City  
(News Article)
Date: 1894-07-04; Paper: Oregonian

 Robyn
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From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:36:55 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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OK, trying to moosh this all together.

 

Henry Rogers, Co.F of the 44th Wis Infantry

Buried at an unknown time at the Laurel Grove Cemetery in Springfield, Lane
County, Oregon.

 

There is only one Rogers listed on FindAGrave in this cemetery.  Other
pictures of Laurel Grove show it to be a badly overgrown cemetery. Is there
a census somewhere in Springfield/Eugene?

I noticed that on another list you knew some of the names of people in
Laurel Grove. Was one of them Elizabeth?

 

On the website, you have listed one George Harvey Rogers, who m Alice
Brothers - Harrisburg Dec 18 1940. When and where was he born?  I found a DC
for Alice Rogers, spouse George, who died 18 Dec 1840. So, I'm thinking
that's your person? 

 

The 1900 gives us some additional information. 

Henry Rogers, b Nov 1829, age 70, married 35 years, (this is penciled over
"47") so married about 1865. He b NY, father b NY, m b VT, no occupation

Elizabeth W, wife, b Jul 1844, 55, m 35, five children, four living. B Wis,
father b NY, m b PA, no occupation

Harvey, son, b Apr 1877, age 23, b Minnesota, fb NY, mb Wisc., sawmill
laborer.

 

The 1880, then, gives us further information:

 

Forest City, Meeker County, Minn:

 

Swupe, Frank, 42, cooper, b IA, fb Penn, mb Ohio

Louise, 39, wife, keeping house, b IA, fb Tenn, mb NY

Ida, 14, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

Etta, 11, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

Rogers, Henry, 49, general merchandise, b NY, NY, NY

Elisabeth, 35, wife, keeping house, b Wisc, NY, NY

Frank L, 17, son, at school, b Wisc, NY, NY

Hettie I, 12, dau, at school, b Wisc, NY, Wis

Harvey G, 3, son, b Minn, NY, Wis

Gertrude S, 8 mo, b Minn, NY, Wis

 

Was the mother of the first two children someone other than Elisabeth?

 

To the 1870, in Forest Prairie, Meeker County, Minn, we have:

 

23/23

Rogers, Alfred, 40, farmer, NY

Uphemier, 27, Wis

Manford, 3, Minn

Gordiner, Catha, 7, Minn

24/24

Bentley, Hiram, 39, farmer, NY

Eliza, 35, keeping house, NY

Frank, 14, Michigan

Burt, 11, Michigan

25/25

Rogers, Henry, 39, farmer, NY

Elizabeth, 26, Wisconsin

Laura E, 12, Wisc

William, 10, Wisc

Frank, 8, Wisc

Hettie, 2, Wisc.

 

I'm having no luck finding the family before 1870.  Maybe someone else will
have better luck.

 

Pat

In Tucson

 

 

 

 

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From madrake at techline.com  Sun Feb 14 14:52:40 2010
From: madrake at techline.com (Marilyn Drake)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:52:40 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Clarkes Cemetery
Message-ID: <C133C9134E134C16AFBEC8F56C704548@MARILYNDRAKEPC>

I am looking for the physical address for the Clarkes Cemetery. My ancestors are buried there. Trying to find driving directions. I do know that it is around the Beaver Creek area.  I have only been there one time with my mother who is now deceased. I will be coming from Vancouver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have tried a few websites with no luck.

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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sun Feb 14 15:40:39 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:40:39 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this
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Robyn;

I knew that name Oerding sounded familiar. She is one of Pheobe's cousins
who has provide me with much of the Fitzhugh - Wilson background information
and she is the one that I copied a lot of photos from at Pheobe's wedding
anniversary party.

Looking at that from that perspective I am puzzled just how she fits in the
family?

I think I should ask her before youput that on a web page, but I certainly
want to share it with you as reading it in it's entirety (for the first
time) is very much like reading many of the items you have been posting>

Les




-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Robyn
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Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Why would I have this


And did Charleen Oerding <hotomy at hevanet.com> contact you about it? She's
listed on the bottom of this report and is also one of the OR-List folks.


Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)







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To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:21:22 PM
Subject: [or-roots] Why would I have this

Here is a mystery for you; I have this file in the stuff resurected (sp?)
from  my dead "My Book" and for the life of me cannot imagine  why unless it
was for someone else on the list, anybody recognize this?

If this is of interest to anyone I can send you the whole file off list, the
notes are about twice as long as what you see here.

Les C



From darlene at thecasteels.net  Sun Feb 14 16:10:04 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:10:04 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Clarkes Cemetery
References: <C133C9134E134C16AFBEC8F56C704548@MARILYNDRAKEPC>
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Go to Google Maps for the address 27738-27960 S Beavercreek Rd.  It will give you a map, and you can get driving instructions.

Darlene
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  I am looking for the physical address for the Clarkes Cemetery. My ancestors are buried there. Trying to find driving directions. I do know that it is around the Beaver Creek area.  I have only been there one time with my mother who is now deceased. I will be coming from Vancouver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have tried a few websites with no luck.

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From: madrake at techline.com (Marilyn Drake)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:51:15 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] :  Clarkes Cemetery
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Thank You
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  Go to Google Maps for the address 27738-27960 S Beavercreek Rd.  It will give you a map, and you can get driving instructions.

  Darlene
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    I am looking for the physical address for the Clarkes Cemetery. My ancestors are buried there. Trying to find driving directions. I do know that it is around the Beaver Creek area.  I have only been there one time with my mother who is now deceased. I will be coming from Vancouver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have tried a few websites with no luck.

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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 14 18:37:02 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:37:02 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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I will save this to a file to go over better.
   I have only the Oregon census so far 1900 and 1920
I have most all the death certs for the folks who would have died after the certs take effect.
   Yes my Aunt was upset they let the place over grow, Its loaded with poison oak I guess that might be a part of it.
   I have not got access to the micro films listed on the civil war pages so that's going to be a problem.
    No we don't know if he was married before and I have been so busy just sorting my files that I have not had much chance to look for any thing since I started this a week ago. Rogers is my week point since its been sitting to long.
   I see where Henry is William Henry and there is a Henry William from NY also. I don't know if Henry had brothers n sisters or any thing, I know the tree on thiside tho .
   Let me digest what you wrote here and see what clues you have.
thanks
Dan M
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  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  OK, trying to moosh this all together.

   

  Henry Rogers, Co.F of the 44th Wis Infantry

  Buried at an unknown time at the Laurel Grove Cemetery in Springfield, Lane County, Oregon.

   

  There is only one Rogers listed on FindAGrave in this cemetery.  Other pictures of Laurel Grove show it to be a badly overgrown cemetery. Is there a census somewhere in Springfield/Eugene?

  I noticed that on another list you knew some of the names of people in Laurel Grove. Was one of them Elizabeth?

   

  On the website, you have listed one George Harvey Rogers, who m Alice Brothers - Harrisburg Dec 18 1940. When and where was he born?  I found a DC for Alice Rogers, spouse George, who died 18 Dec 1840. So, I'm thinking that's your person? 

   

  The 1900 gives us some additional information. 

  Henry Rogers, b Nov 1829, age 70, married 35 years, (this is penciled over "47") so married about 1865. He b NY, father b NY, m b VT, no occupation

  Elizabeth W, wife, b Jul 1844, 55, m 35, five children, four living. B Wis, father b NY, m b PA, no occupation

  Harvey, son, b Apr 1877, age 23, b Minnesota, fb NY, mb Wisc., sawmill laborer.

   

  The 1880, then, gives us further information:

   

  Forest City, Meeker County, Minn:

   

  Swupe, Frank, 42, cooper, b IA, fb Penn, mb Ohio

  Louise, 39, wife, keeping house, b IA, fb Tenn, mb NY

  Ida, 14, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

  Etta, 11, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

  Rogers, Henry, 49, general merchandise, b NY, NY, NY

  Elisabeth, 35, wife, keeping house, b Wisc, NY, NY

  Frank L, 17, son, at school, b Wisc, NY, NY

  Hettie I, 12, dau, at school, b Wisc, NY, Wis

  Harvey G, 3, son, b Minn, NY, Wis

  Gertrude S, 8 mo, b Minn, NY, Wis

   

  Was the mother of the first two children someone other than Elisabeth?

   

  To the 1870, in Forest Prairie, Meeker County, Minn, we have:

   

  23/23

  Rogers, Alfred, 40, farmer, NY

  Uphemier, 27, Wis

  Manford, 3, Minn

  Gordiner, Catha, 7, Minn

  24/24

  Bentley, Hiram, 39, farmer, NY

  Eliza, 35, keeping house, NY

  Frank, 14, Michigan

  Burt, 11, Michigan

  25/25

  Rogers, Henry, 39, farmer, NY

  Elizabeth, 26, Wisconsin

  Laura E, 12, Wisc

  William, 10, Wisc

  Frank, 8, Wisc

  Hettie, 2, Wisc.

   

  I'm having no luck finding the family before 1870.  Maybe someone else will have better luck.

   

  Pat

  In Tucson

   

   

   

   

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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 14 18:56:29 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:56:29 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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Comments I snipped all but this I am talking about.
If this is an 1880 for Minn, the names in red match my group sheet, but the Oregon 1900 census only shows Henry - Elizabeth - Harvey.
    SO I suspect the older ones must have moved out.
Where did you find this one online ?
   I have Hettie, Harvey and Gertrude in my files, but not Frank.

Dan M

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kith-n-Kin 
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  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


     

  The 1880, then, gives us further information:

   

  Forest City, Meeker County, Minn:

   

  Swupe, Frank, 42, cooper, b IA, fb Penn, mb Ohio

  Louise, 39, wife, keeping house, b IA, fb Tenn, mb NY

  Ida, 14, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

  Etta, 11, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

  Rogers, Henry, 49, general merchandise, b NY, NY, NY

  Elisabeth, 35, wife, keeping house, b Wisc, NY, NY

  Frank L, 17, son, at school, b Wisc, NY, NY

  Hettie I, 12, dau, at school, b Wisc, NY, Wis

  Harvey G, 3, son, b Minn, NY, Wis

  Gertrude S, 8 mo, b Minn, NY, Wis

   

   
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sun Feb 14 19:37:02 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:37:02 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] 1880 Census index
In-Reply-To: <3BC3C84AD3FF4A689B2EC2E9FCB6602E@AroundHome>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

I don't know where Pat got the census stuff, but for 1880 the LDS church has
an online sit;

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc
h_census.asp

also at top where you see a box to the right of "Census" you can select for
1881 British or Canadian, which sometimes comes in handy if you don't know
for sure where someone is among those, you don't select and can find your
people as long as you aren't looking for too common a name like i am right
now;

I am looking for a William Smith and wife Ann with children Robert and Emma,
the only thing that saves me from total frustration is they are born in
England and I know how old they are. And I only know they are somewhere in
the US. So far I have found about Six Wm ma Ann and of those I think four
had a son robert.

I was able to find Emma and here husband at the above site by listing
daughter Grace and her age +/- 2 years.  I tried to search Grace with head
of House hold Albert, but came up empty because he is listed as AH, but
"usually" I can find someone at that site if they are in the census. I never
did figure out Milan Melvin until I paged through the Census and found him
only one correct vowel.

Les



From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 14 19:58:16 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:58:16 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] 1880 Census index
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENPCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
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The info she found was right on.
being on batteries I am just a little limited on time, not to bad tho .
   It rained all day so I put my Rogers binder all in order, so I thought 
till I got the new info I had to make another group sheet, but I used 
pencil.
  I am not focused 100% on the Rogers I am still organizing my Matney stuff.
 I got a full file cabinet of notes for them.
But still have the brick wall * when did they pass away * Julia, Walter, 
Henry(William)
   Gee everyone else gets dates I get blanks LOL.
Dan M - ps thanks for the link.
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Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: [or-roots] 1880 Census index


>I don't know where Pat got the census stuff, but for 1880 the LDS church 
>has
> an online sit;
>
> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc
> h_census.asp
 



From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Mon Feb 15 09:09:05 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:09:05 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] QRE:  Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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Dan

 

I got this from Ancestry.com, but it is also available from FamilySearch.org
(the transcript) with the family listed. Also on HeritageQuest, which I get
through my library. Not on Footnote as I recall.

 

I only included the Shupes because they were in the same dwelling. You never
know when they may turn out to be related.

 

I'll send it to you "off-list".

 

Pat

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:56 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown

 

Comments I snipped all but this I am talking about.

If this is an 1880 for Minn, the names in red match my group sheet, but the
Oregon 1900 census only shows Henry - Elizabeth - Harvey.

    SO I suspect the older ones must have moved out.

Where did you find this one online ?

   I have Hettie, Harvey and Gertrude in my files, but not Frank.

 

Dan M

 

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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown

 

  

The 1880, then, gives us further information:

 

Forest City, Meeker County, Minn:

 

Swupe, Frank, 42, cooper, b IA, fb Penn, mb Ohio

Louise, 39, wife, keeping house, b IA, fb Tenn, mb NY

Ida, 14, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

Etta, 11, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

Rogers, Henry, 49, general merchandise, b NY, NY, NY

Elisabeth, 35, wife, keeping house, b Wisc, NY, NY

Frank L, 17, son, at school, b Wisc, NY, NY

Hettie I, 12, dau, at school, b Wisc, NY, Wis

Harvey G, 3, son, b Minn, NY, Wis

Gertrude S, 8 mo, b Minn, NY, Wis

 

 

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From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:06:42 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] QRE:  Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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1870 United States Federal Census
Name:Henry Rogers
Birth Year:abt 1831
Age in 1870:39
Birthplace:New York
Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
Race:White
Gender:Male
Value of real estate:
Post Office:Forest
Household Members:NameAge
Henry Rogers39
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota; Roll  T132_7; Image: 362; Family History Library Film: 830427.

1870 United States Federal Census
Name:Elizabeth Rogers
Birth Year:abt 1844
Age in 1870:26
Birthplace:Wisconsin
Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
Race:White
Gender:Female
Post Office:Forest

1870 United States Federal Census
Name:Frank Rogers
Birth Year:abt 1862
Age in 1870:8
Birthplace:Wisconsin
Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
Race:White
Gender:Male
Post Office:Forest

1870 United States Federal Census
Name:Hettie Rogers
Birth Year:abt 1868
Age in 1870:2
Birthplace:Wisconsin
Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
Race:White
Gender:Female
Value of real estate:
Post Office:Forest
Household Members:NameAge
Hettie Rogers2

I tried to look at the image on Heritage Quest but it was basically unreadable.   
  From: Kith-n-Kin 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:09 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] QRE: Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  Dan

   

  I got this from Ancestry.com, but it is also available from FamilySearch.org (the transcript) with the family listed. Also on HeritageQuest, which I get through my library. Not on Footnote as I recall.

   

  I only included the Shupes because they were in the same dwelling. You never know when they may turn out to be related.

   

  I'll send it to you "off-list".

   

  Pat

   

  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:56 PM
  To: or-roots mail list
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown

   

  Comments I snipped all but this I am talking about.

  If this is an 1880 for Minn, the names in red match my group sheet, but the Oregon 1900 census only shows Henry - Elizabeth - Harvey.

      SO I suspect the older ones must have moved out.

  Where did you find this one online ?

     I have Hettie, Harvey and Gertrude in my files, but not Frank.

   

  Dan M

   

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    From: Kith-n-Kin 

    To: 'or-roots mail list' 

    Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:36 PM

    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown

     

      

    The 1880, then, gives us further information:

     

    Forest City, Meeker County, Minn:

     

    Swupe, Frank, 42, cooper, b IA, fb Penn, mb Ohio

    Louise, 39, wife, keeping house, b IA, fb Tenn, mb NY

    Ida, 14, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

    Etta, 11, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

    Rogers, Henry, 49, general merchandise, b NY, NY, NY

    Elisabeth, 35, wife, keeping house, b Wisc, NY, NY

    Frank L, 17, son, at school, b Wisc, NY, NY

    Hettie I, 12, dau, at school, b Wisc, NY, Wis

    Harvey G, 3, son, b Minn, NY, Wis

    Gertrude S, 8 mo, b Minn, NY, Wis

     

     



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From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:31:26 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
Message-ID: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>

Wondering if any one on our list knows anything about Henry O Powell from Ill. or Felix Hogue from MO.? 
They are living with my gggGrandfather James McCubbins in 1870 Lebanon, OR. I wonder if there related to James or wife Barbary?
Thanks, Nancy


1870 United States Federal Census 
about James McCubbins 
            Name: James McCubbins 
            Birth Year: abt 1814 
            Age in 1870: 56 
            Birthplace: Virginia 
            Home in 1870: Lebanon, Linn, Oregon 
            Race: White 
            Gender: Male 
            Value of real estate: View image 
            Post Office: Lebanon 
            Household Members: Name Age 
                  James McCubbins 56 
                  Barbary McCubbins 50 
                  Ruth McCubbins 16 
                  Ella McCubbins 14 
                  Henry O Powell 29 
                  Mary A Powell 26 
                  Viola I Powell 7 
                  Jennie L Powell 5 
                  Willis M Powell 2 
                  Felix Hogue 13 
           
           
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Mon Feb 15 14:27:30 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:27:30 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>

Nancy, do you have the census image?  That indicates McCubbins was an invalid.  So perhaps this Powell family was living there to help them, Mrs. Powell is listed as keeping house rather than Barbara McCubbins.  Felix Hogue says he works on the farm.

Sue Steward 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:31 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell


  Wondering if any one on our list knows anything about Henry O Powell from Ill. or Felix Hogue from MO.? 
  They are living with my gggGrandfather James McCubbins in 1870 Lebanon, OR. I wonder if there related to James or wife Barbary?
  Thanks, Nancy


  1870 United States Federal Census 
  about James McCubbins 
              Name: James McCubbins 
              Birth Year: abt 1814 
              Age in 1870: 56 
              Birthplace: Virginia 
              Home in 1870: Lebanon, Linn, Oregon 
              Race: White 
              Gender: Male 
              Value of real estate: View image 
              Post Office: Lebanon 
              Household Members: Name Age 
                    James McCubbins 56 
                    Barbary McCubbins 50 
                    Ruth McCubbins 16 
                    Ella McCubbins 14 
                    Henry O Powell 29 
                    Mary A Powell 26 
                    Viola I Powell 7 
                    Jennie L Powell 5 
                    Willis M Powell 2 
                    Felix Hogue 13 
             
             
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 15 14:39:24 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:39:24 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] QRE:  Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <6F1395CFEA60465AA1C0538390C8F4A6@AroundHome><FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENLCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>	<00a501caadc6$36585950$a3090bf0$@net><3BC3C84AD3FF4A689B2EC2E9FCB6602E@AroundHome>
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Thanks, yes I understand.
Also I cant afford Places that cost money, the other thing is when I found out my ss was so low and Medicare taking another 110, gee, we have a saving account where you have to go in person for the buks so I dont spend any money online.
   All the outside help I get is highly respected.
So as in the first place as in the current place I am still missing a death date and burial for 3 people, I have added 3 other people I did not know about and my FTM crashes when I try to do a genealogy report on my Rogers but not on any one else.  I think I will remove them all and start the Rogers over that might help.
 Sunny and 70 today * yea!
Dan M
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  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:09 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] QRE: Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  Dan

   

  I got this from Ancestry.com, but it is also available from FamilySearch.org (the transcript) with the family listed. Also on HeritageQuest, which I get through my library. Not on Footnote as I recall.

   

  I only included the Shupes because they were in the same dwelling. You never know when they may turn out to be related.

   

  I'll send it to you "off-list".

   

  Pat 
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From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:41:15 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] QRE:  Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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Thanks Sue, I will look over to see if there is something I can use, I dont have a lot so every thing is a help :))
Dan M
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Mon Feb 15 14:39:33 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:39:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
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Yes, I have the image but looks like invalid was crossed out with a line going through it? I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe, Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue River, Jackson Co., for 12 years & make visits all the time to the old family farm. I still can't find James McCubbins grave. I have his Estate record but no mention of where he is buried. On the Estate papers it reads him & Barbary lived on Lot 6 & 7 North Salem. I don't know where the heck that is. Maybe he's buried on that land or died in a nursing home since he was an Invalid.. I know the Estate papers were filled out in June 1877 & he died Sept 6 1877 North Salem, OR. So they knew he was dying.

Thanks, Nancy 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Steward 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry O Powell


  Nancy, do you have the census image?  That indicates McCubbins was an invalid.  So perhaps this Powell family was living there to help them, Mrs. Powell is listed as keeping house rather than Barbara McCubbins.  Felix Hogue says he works on the farm.

  Sue Steward 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nancy Lee Adams 
    To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
    Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:31 AM
    Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell


    Wondering if any one on our list knows anything about Henry O Powell from Ill. or Felix Hogue from MO.? 
    They are living with my gggGrandfather James McCubbins in 1870 Lebanon, OR. I wonder if there related to James or wife Barbary?
    Thanks, Nancy


    1870 United States Federal Census 
    about James McCubbins 
                Name: James McCubbins 
                Birth Year: abt 1814 
                Age in 1870: 56 
                Birthplace: Virginia 
                Home in 1870: Lebanon, Linn, Oregon 
                Race: White 
                Gender: Male 
                Value of real estate: View image 
                Post Office: Lebanon 
                Household Members: Name Age 
                      James McCubbins 56 
                      Barbary McCubbins 50 
                      Ruth McCubbins 16 
                      Ella McCubbins 14 
                      Henry O Powell 29 
                      Mary A Powell 26 
                      Viola I Powell 7 
                      Jennie L Powell 5 
                      Willis M Powell 2 
                      Felix Hogue 13 
               
               
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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Mon Feb 15 16:55:03 2010
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:55:03 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
In-Reply-To: <65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC>
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I think "invalid" is crossed out because it is not an accepted "role" in the
household.

 

Pat

In Tucson 

 

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy Lee
Adams
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:40 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry O Powell

 

Yes, I have the image but looks like invalid was crossed out with a line
going through it? I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe,
Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue
River, Jackson Co., for 12 years & make visits all the time to the old
family farm. I still can't find James McCubbins grave. I have his Estate
record but no mention of where he is buried. On the Estate papers it reads
him & Barbary lived on Lot 6 & 7 North Salem. I don't know where the heck
that is. Maybe he's buried on that land or died in a nursing home since he
was an Invalid.. I know the Estate papers were filled out in June 1877 & he
died Sept 6 1877 North Salem, OR. So they knew he was dying.

 

Thanks, Nancy 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sue Steward <mailto:ssteward at ccountry.net>  

To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry O Powell

 

Nancy, do you have the census image?  That indicates McCubbins was an
invalid.  So perhaps this Powell family was living there to help them, Mrs.
Powell is listed as keeping house rather than Barbara McCubbins.  Felix
Hogue says he works on the farm.

 

Sue Steward 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Nancy Lee Adams <mailto:nancydean at columbia-center.org>  

To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:31 AM

Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell

 

Wondering if any one on our list knows anything about Henry O Powell from
Ill. or Felix Hogue from MO.? 

They are living with my gggGrandfather James McCubbins in 1870 Lebanon, OR.
I wonder if there related to James or wife Barbary?

Thanks, Nancy

 

 

 <http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7163&enc=1> 1870 United States
Federal Census 
about James McCubbins 



Name:

James McCubbins


Birth Year:

abt 1814


Age in 1870:

56


Birthplace:

Virginia


Home in 1870:

Lebanon, Linn, Oregon


Race:

White


Gender:

Male


Value of real estate:

 
<http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7163&iid=4278484_00647&
fn=James&ln=McCubbins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=7049964> View image


Post Office:

Lebanon


Household Members:


Name

Age


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=7049
964> James McCubbins

56


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=9279
115> Barbary McCubbins

50


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=3518
589> Ruth McCubbins

16


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=7049
963> Ella McCubbins

14


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=3518
588> Henry O Powell

29


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=9279
117> Mary A Powell

26


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=3518
590> Viola I Powell

7


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=7049
965> Jennie L Powell

5


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=9279
118> Willis M Powell

2


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&indiv=try&h=9279
116> Felix Hogue

13

		
 
<http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7163&iid=4278484_00647&
fn=James&ln=McCubbins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=7049964> 

View
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fn=James&ln=McCubbins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=7049964> 
Original
Record

 
<http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7163&iid=4278484_00647&
fn=James&ln=McCubbins&st=r&ssrc=&pid=7049964> 


 
<http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7163&iid=4278484_00647&
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Mon Feb 15 17:00:33 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:00:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
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That makes sense, Thank you..
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry O Powell


  I think "invalid" is crossed out because it is not an accepted "role" in the household.

   

  Pat

  In Tucson 

   

   

  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Nancy Lee Adams
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:40 PM
  To: or-roots mail list
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry O Powell

   

  Yes, I have the image but looks like invalid was crossed out with a line going through it? I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe, Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue River, Jackson Co., for 12 years & make visits all the time to the old family farm. I still can't find James McCubbins grave. I have his Estate record but no mention of where he is buried. On the Estate papers it reads him & Barbary lived on Lot 6 & 7 North Salem. I don't know where the heck that is. Maybe he's buried on that land or died in a nursing home since he was an Invalid.. I know the Estate papers were filled out in June 1877 & he died Sept 6 1877 North Salem, OR. So they knew he was dying.

   

  Thanks, Nancy 

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Sue Steward 

    To: or-roots mail list 

    Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:27 PM

    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry O Powell

     

    Nancy, do you have the census image?  That indicates McCubbins was an invalid.  So perhaps this Powell family was living there to help them, Mrs. Powell is listed as keeping house rather than Barbara McCubbins.  Felix Hogue says he works on the farm.

     

    Sue Steward 

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Nancy Lee Adams 

      To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 

      Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:31 AM

      Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell

       

      Wondering if any one on our list knows anything about Henry O Powell from Ill. or Felix Hogue from MO.? 

      They are living with my gggGrandfather James McCubbins in 1870 Lebanon, OR. I wonder if there related to James or wife Barbary?

      Thanks, Nancy

       

       

      1870 United States Federal Census 
      about James McCubbins 

                  Name:
                 James McCubbins
                 
                  Birth Year:
                 abt 1814
                 
                  Age in 1870:
                 56
                 
                  Birthplace:
                 Virginia
                 
                  Home in 1870:
                 Lebanon, Linn, Oregon
                 
                  Race:
                 White
                 
                  Gender:
                 Male
                 
                  Value of real estate:
                 View image
                 
                  Post Office:
                 Lebanon
                 
                  Household Members:
                 Name
                       Age
                       
                        James McCubbins
                       56
                       
                        Barbary McCubbins
                       50
                       
                        Ruth McCubbins
                       16
                       
                        Ella McCubbins
                       14
                       
                        Henry O Powell
                       29
                       
                        Mary A Powell
                       26
                       
                        Viola I Powell
                       7
                       
                        Jennie L Powell
                       5
                       
                        Willis M Powell
                       2
                       
                        Felix Hogue
                       13
                       
                 
                  
           
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            Original
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb 15 17:38:51 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:38:51 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins lot 6 & 7
In-Reply-To: <65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPECEODCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Nancy;

It just says "lot 6 & 7" no street address or subdivision name? In the
subdivision category we have;
                                   Town plat book         Town plat page
North Limits Addition to Salem            13                   037
North Park Annex in Salem                 22                   048
North Riviera Addition to Salem           18                   012
North Salem Fred Meyer                    43                   030
North Salem Town Plat                     01                   018
North Salem with Additions                01                   034

Just off th cuff I would bet on North Salem Town Plat

For what it is worth, googling North Salem Addition got me 8 hits 3 ea, NH &
NY, a google bool of Pacific reporter with a 1913 court case concerning lots
11 & 12 and this;

. . .  easter;y a;pmg S r/way line of South St NE to the intrsctn with W
r/way line of Front St NE thence southerly to the intersection with the
westerly extension of the s line os lot 7 block 21  etc etc

Now as you cann see from th above, just lot 6 & 7 tells us nothing, I need a
block number and a subdivision name to be sure, but if this amazing
coincidence happens to be the lot 7 you want, I think you arw out of luck as
it's in warehouses along the river.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From:  Nancy Lee Adams
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:40 PM

Yes, I have the image but looks like invalid was crossed out with a line
going through it? I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe,
Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue
River, Jackson Co., for 12 years & make visits all the time to the old
family farm. I still can't find James McCubbins grave. I have his Estate
record but no mention of where he is buried. On the Estate papers it reads
him & Barbary lived on Lot 6 & 7 North Salem. I don't know where the heck
that is. Maybe he's buried on that land or died in a nursing home since he
was an Invalid.. I know the Estate papers were filled out in June 1877 & he
died Sept 6 1877 North Salem, OR. So they knew he was dying.

Thanks, Nancy



From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Mon Feb 15 18:21:41 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:21:41 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins
In-Reply-To: <981790DF2BFF4FFD80F5EB8F7AB9C568@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEOECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Okay, my best guess is your lots 6 & 7 are somewhere between Market and
Norway S to N with Front on the W and Broadway on the east, there is one
piece with those lot nos e of Broasway btwn gains & Hood and another N of
norway between 4th & Broadway.

Thinking this isn't your folks?

  b.        1880
  d. 08 Oct 1902      N/A
  "Young Lady Passes Away---After a Protracted Illness of Tuberculosis of
the Spine---Came To This City From Lostine One Year Ago To Obtain Medical
Relief, But Of No Avail--The Funeral Will Be Today--After a protracted
illness, Miss Polly McCubbin, aged 22 years, passed away at the home of her
parents, Mr. and Mrs. J.H. McCubbin, No. 228 Church street, yesterday, at 12
o'clock.
  The former home of the family was at Lostine, Wallowa county, but they
came to Salem about a year ago, where the young lady, who was then ill,
might have the benefit of the best medical skill.  Her condition did not
improve, and for nearly a year she had been unable to leave her bed.  During
the past week she had grown steadily worse, until the end came, consumption
of the spine being the immediate cause of death.
  She was a cousin of Mrs. S.W. Minturn, of this city, and there is a large
circle of friends who are saddened at the news of her untimely death.  She
leaves a father and mother and four sisters.
  The funeral will take place at 2 p.m. today, and the remains will be
interred in Lee Mission Cemetery, with short services at the grave."  DOS
Oct 9, 1902 3:2

>From Stephanie FloRA ET AL;

http://www.oregonpioneers.com/marion/Lee_M.html  Lee Mission cmtry

http://www.marioncountycemetery.com/brooks/groups/record_group.php?start=M&e
nd=N

has;

McCubbins, Lucy F.
LAST: McCubbins	FIRST: Lucy	MID: F.
GENDER: F	MAIDEN NAME: Smith	TITLE: Mrs.
BORN: 8 Mar 1859	DIED: 1878	BURIED:
OCCUPATION:
BIRTH PLACE:  Oregon
DEATH PLACE:
NOTES:
Name of father - John Smith
Maiden name of mother - Mary Ringo
1860 OR CENSUS - L. F. Smith, female, age 1, b. Oregon, is enumerated with
J. H. [sic] Smith, age 42, b. Tennessee, and M. J., female, age 36, b.
Missouri, along with L. F., female, age 13, b. Missouri, M. A., female, age
11, b. Oregon, E. C., female, age 10, b. Oregon, and L. D., male, age 2, b.
Oregon. Also enumerated with the family is L. D. Edwards, age 36, b. Iowa.
MARRIAGE - "A. J. McCubbins, over 21 & Lucy F. Smith, over 18, M 28 Feb 1877
at house of & by L. H. Poujade, J. P. Wit: P. M. Coonse & Thomas McCubbins
#3030 pg 302".


I am not having any luck with her data base and suspect it it my browser, i
suggesst you go to

http://www.oregonpioneers.com/marion/cemetery.htm

and look at anything close to T 7 S, R 3 W, I would look at 6, 7 & 8 by 2,3
& 4 if you can make thme work, if not I have sent Stephaine a note thqat I
had problmems,

Les





From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Mon Feb 15 19:56:52 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:56:52 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEOECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEOECBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <3300869A6E7545DFA2AC0447B3A057D7@NancyPC>

Les,
The Estate record only reads Lot 6 & 7, no block number or a subdivision 
name at all. Thanks for looking & helping. Some day I will take a drive 
where you have said & take a look. I was born in Salem myself close to Lee's 
Mission.

*YES, I am related to  Lucy F McCubbins - Smith & Ringo..
McCubbins, Lucy F.
> LAST: McCubbins FIRST: Lucy MID: F.
> GENDER: F MAIDEN NAME: Smith TITLE: Mrs.
> BORN: 8 Mar 1859 DIED: 1878 BURIED:
> OCCUPATION:
> BIRTH PLACE:  Oregon
> DEATH PLACE:
> NOTES:
> Name of father - John Smith
> Maiden name of mother - Mary Ringo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

**J. H. McCubbin Obit below Polly's father. I just know I'm (nancy) related 
to J H McCubbin of Lostine and his father William Richard McCubbin. and 
Nancy (Bilyeu) McCubbin, who came from Miller county, Missouri, to Oregon. 
These McCubbins came SAME YEAR 1852 as my James McCubbins from Missouri, But 
I can't find a direct link very madding. so close but yet so far from 
connecting..

**Lostine, Wallowa County, Oregon
Obit.
J. H. McCubbin, who passed away at his home in Lostine on January 31, 1910, 
was well known in that town and throughout the surrounding county and his 
qualities were such as gained for him the respect and friendship of all with 
whom he came into contact. In his business career he won success and was 
honored by reason of the straightforward methods, which he always followed. 
He was born in Miller county, Missouri, on October 25, 1845, the son of 
William R. and Nancy (Bilyen) McCubbin, who came from Miller county, 
Missouri, to Oregon.

J. H. McCubbin was reared on his father's farm and acquired his education in 
the common schools. When a young man he apprenticed himself in the 
blacksmith trade to his brother-in-law, J. H. Brown, with whom he later 
entered into partnership in that business. For about one year after his 
marriage in 1872 he resided in Clackamas county, but in 1873, removed to 
Wasco county where he engaged in farming and did such blacksmithing as his 
few neighbors wished done. In 1877 he came to Wallowa valley where he 
purchased two hundred acres of school land adjoining the town of Lostine and 
subsequently he added to this until his holdings comprised in all four 
hundred and eighty acres. He lived on that place until 1906 when he rented 
the same and moved to Lostine where he spent the remaining years of his life 
in retirement.

On the 4th of September 1872, Mr. McCubbin was united in marriage to Miss 
Marietta Young, who is a native of Clackamas County and a daughter of Joseph 
and Emily (Barnes) Young. Her parents moved from Missouri to Clackamas 
County, where they took up a donation land claim and resided on the same 
until the mother's death, when the father went to Wasco county and there 
made his home with his son Jerry until his death. To Mr. and Mrs. McCubbin 
were born six children of whom four survive: Rebecca, the wife of James T. 
Johnson of Morrow county; Bertha J., who is Mrs. H. A. Kuhn of Wallowa 
county; Dolly E., who is Mrs. F. L. Pearce of Bellingham, Washington; and 
Violet W., the wife of W. H. Kuhn of Lostine. The deceased were: Andrew J., 
who died in infancy; and Mary A., who passed away when twenty-two years of 
age. The demise of Mr. McCubbin, the husband and father, was deeply deplored 
by a wide circle of friends and acquaintances.

In politics Mr. McCubbin was a Jackson democrat and took an active in local 
party work. He served as county assessor of Union county when Wallowa county 
was yet a part of the same, and in 1880 while in that office, was census 
taker of this county. After the division of Union and Wallowa counties, Mr. 
McCubbin was for two term's assessor of Wallowa County. Fraternally he was a 
member of the Lostine Lodge, A. F. & A. M., and of the Anthony Chapter No. 
88, of the Order of the Eastern star, of which chapter Mrs. McCubbin is also 
a member. Mr. McCubbin was one of the foremost citizens of Wallowa County 
and was highly esteemed by all that knew him. He was quick to recognize the 
rights of others and he looked at life from a rational standpoint that 
brought him a clear understanding of the conditions of the world, its 
possibilities and the obligations that rested upon him in his relation to 
his fellow men and in citizenship. Mrs. McCubbin resides in Lostine and has 
a wide circle of friends and acquaintances there who hold her in the highest 
esteem.

Thanks to Gerald (Gary} Jaensch for providing this information.
Source: Wallowa County, Oregon Obituaries

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:21 PM
Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins


> Okay, my best guess is your lots 6 & 7 are somewhere between Market and
> Norway S to N with Front on the W and Broadway on the east, there is one
> piece with those lot nos e of Broasway btwn gains & Hood and another N of
> norway between 4th & Broadway.
>
> Thinking this isn't your folks?
>
>  b.        1880
>  d. 08 Oct 1902      N/A
>  "Young Lady Passes Away---After a Protracted Illness of Tuberculosis of
> the Spine---Came To This City From Lostine One Year Ago To Obtain Medical
> Relief, But Of No Avail--The Funeral Will Be Today--After a protracted
> illness, Miss Polly McCubbin, aged 22 years, passed away at the home of 
> her
> parents, Mr. and Mrs. J.H. McCubbin, No. 228 Church street, yesterday, at 
> 12
> o'clock.
>  The former home of the family was at Lostine, Wallowa county, but they
> came to Salem about a year ago, where the young lady, who was then ill,
> might have the benefit of the best medical skill.  Her condition did not
> improve, and for nearly a year she had been unable to leave her bed. 
> During
> the past week she had grown steadily worse, until the end came, 
> consumption
> of the spine being the immediate cause of death.
>  She was a cousin of Mrs. S.W. Minturn, of this city, and there is a large
> circle of friends who are saddened at the news of her untimely death.  She
> leaves a father and mother and four sisters.
>  The funeral will take place at 2 p.m. today, and the remains will be
> interred in Lee Mission Cemetery, with short services at the grave."  DOS
> Oct 9, 1902 3:2
>
>>From Stephanie FloRA ET AL;
>
> http://www.oregonpioneers.com/marion/Lee_M.html  Lee Mission cmtry
>
> http://www.marioncountycemetery.com/brooks/groups/record_group.php?start=M&e
> nd=N
>
> has;
>
> McCubbins, Lucy F.
> LAST: McCubbins FIRST: Lucy MID: F.
> GENDER: F MAIDEN NAME: Smith TITLE: Mrs.
> BORN: 8 Mar 1859 DIED: 1878 BURIED:
> OCCUPATION:
> BIRTH PLACE:  Oregon
> DEATH PLACE:
> NOTES:
> Name of father - John Smith
> Maiden name of mother - Mary Ringo
> 1860 OR CENSUS - L. F. Smith, female, age 1, b. Oregon, is enumerated with
> J. H. [sic] Smith, age 42, b. Tennessee, and M. J., female, age 36, b.
> Missouri, along with L. F., female, age 13, b. Missouri, M. A., female, 
> age
> 11, b. Oregon, E. C., female, age 10, b. Oregon, and L. D., male, age 2, 
> b.
> Oregon. Also enumerated with the family is L. D. Edwards, age 36, b. Iowa.
> MARRIAGE - "A. J. McCubbins, over 21 & Lucy F. Smith, over 18, M 28 Feb 
> 1877
> at house of & by L. H. Poujade, J. P. Wit: P. M. Coonse & Thomas McCubbins
> #3030 pg 302".
>
>
> I am not having any luck with her data base and suspect it it my browser, 
> i
> suggesst you go to
>
> http://www.oregonpioneers.com/marion/cemetery.htm
>
> and look at anything close to T 7 S, R 3 W, I would look at 6, 7 & 8 by 
> 2,3
> & 4 if you can make thme work, if not I have sent Stephaine a note thqat I
> had problmems,
>
> Les

> 



From marmaduck99 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 16 16:39:52 2010
From: marmaduck99 at yahoo.com (mry wlsn)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:39:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Dead end
Message-ID: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Kelly Waldrop, Bandon Oregon.  I am looking for her as she is a descendant of Margaret Elizabeth Melton who married ????.  Margaret Elizabeth Melton was daughter of Johnnie Melton and Ida Mae Phillips.  Ida Mae Phillips was daughter of Charlie Phillips and Margaret May Lafferty.

I have tried to get a phone number and have hit dead ends there.  So if any one knows her please pass on a message. 

Margaret May Lafferty was my father's younger sister.  My dad was really old when I was born. I did meet my aunt May several times and she came to our home in San Diego, CA to visit my dad.  It was the last time I saw her.  She brought dad the old Lafferty family Bible and a small study Bible that had the information of Ida Mae Melton's marriage in it.  

The Lafferty Bible is already spoken for but this little Phillips/ Melton Bible I would like to give to a family member as I am getting old and my children already plan to burn anything thing they can not figure out what it is.  That bible will be one of the things that will go in the fire.  

Mary Lafferty Wilson
marmaduck99 at yahoo.com

 


I am but a sinner seeking God.  10Create in me a pure heart, O God, 

       and renew a steadfast spirit within me. 
 11 Do not cast me from your presence 
       or take your Holy Spirit from me.
Psalms 51: 10-11
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From ross1948 at bendcable.com  Tue Feb 16 17:24:19 2010
From: ross1948 at bendcable.com (Julie Ross)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:24:19 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cousin Connect
References: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FFF77B2E739742A3886F981099AE8D30@miniuserf82ced>

Try posting your inquiry on cousinconnect.com.  You would be surprised as to what kinds of connections you can make...both of the living and those that have passed.  Last time I posted three people posted to my inquiry and my quest was achieved!  Good Luck!
J. Ross
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mry wlsn 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:39 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Dead end


  Kelly Waldrop, Bandon Oregon.  I am looking for her as she is a descendant of Margaret Elizabeth Melton who married ????.  Margaret Elizabeth Melton was daughter of Johnnie Melton and Ida Mae Phillips.  Ida Mae Phillips was daughter of Charlie Phillips and Margaret May Lafferty.

  I have tried to get a phone number and have hit dead ends there.  So if any one knows her please pass on a message. 

  Margaret May Lafferty was my father's younger sister.  My dad was really old when I was born. I did meet my aunt May several times and she came to our home in San Diego, CA to visit my dad.  It was the last time I saw her.  She brought dad the old Lafferty family Bible and a small study Bible that had the information of Ida Mae Melton's marriage in it.  

  The Lafferty Bible is already spoken for but this little Phillips/ Melton Bible I would like to give to a family member as I am getting old and my children already plan to burn anything thing they can not figure out what it is.  That bible will be one of the things that will go in the fire.  

  Mary Lafferty Wilson
  marmaduck99 at yahoo.com




  I am but a sinner seeking God. 
   10 Create in me a pure heart, O God, 

         and renew a steadfast spirit within me. 

   11 Do not cast me from your presence 
         or take your Holy Spirit from me.

  Psalms 51: 10-11








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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Feb 16 17:30:10 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:30:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Dead end
In-Reply-To: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1692298130.4813521266370210753.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I would suggest if you do not contact who you are looking for or a family member that wants the bible give it to your local genealogical society, or historical society.
I am the education chair at the Clark County Washington Genealogical society and that is what we suggust to our members.
Sometime someone is going to be looking for that information that is in the bible.

Glen Jones Portland, Oregon
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Tue Feb 16 17:53:52 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:53:52 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] KELLY WALDROP
In-Reply-To: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43168C2F81CA4B0098B45FD4CC3E78E5@NancyPC>

Mary, I typed in her name at Zabasearch in Google come up with all these below,               Nancy 

           
     

                      

                 

                        KELLY G WALDROP Born  May 1955   Get the Dirt   Check for Email Address Google 
                        1010 FRANKLIN AVE SW   Neighborhood & Property Report  Record Created: 06/2000       
                        BANDON, OR  97411     Confirm Current Phone & Address   
                        Background Check on KELLY G WALDROP     

                       
                        KELLY WALDROP Born  May 1955   Get the Dirt   Check for Email Address Google 
                        1264 INDIANA AVE SE   Neighborhood & Property Report  Record Created: 11/1999       
                        BANDON, OR  97411     Confirm Current Phone & Address   
                        Background Check on KELLY WALDROP     

                       
                 
                  K WALDROP - 24 Free Listings     
                  Check messages for: - - KELLY WALDROP   Leave a message for KELLY WALDROP  
                  E-mail This Page  Know When You're Being Searched on the Internet  Create a Public Record 
                 

                        KELLY WALDROP Born  May 1955   Get the Dirt   Check for Email Address Google 
                            (541) 347-2898   Confirm Current Phone & Address   
                        Background Check on KELLY WALDROP     

                       
                        KELLY WALDROP Born  May 1955   Get the Dirt   Check for Email Address Google 
                            (541) 347-7061   Confirm Current Phone & Address   
                        Background Check on KELLY WALDROP     

                       
                        KELLY G WALDROP Born  May 1955   Get the Dirt   Check for Email Address Google 
                        1010 FRANKLIN AVE SW   Neighborhood & Property Report  Record Created: 06/2000       
                        BANDON, OR  97411     Confirm Current Phone & Address   
                        Background Check on KELLY G WALDROP     

                       
                        KELLY WALDROP Born  May 1955   Get the Dirt   Check for Email Address Google 
                        1264 INDIANA AVE SE   Neighborhood & Property Report  Record Created: 11/1999       
                        BANDON, OR  97411     Confirm Current Phone & Address   
                        Background Check on KELLY WALDROP     
                 
           
     

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mry wlsn 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:39 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Dead end


  Kelly Waldrop, Bandon Oregon.  I am looking for her as she is a descendant of Margaret Elizabeth Melton who married ????.  Margaret Elizabeth Melton was daughter of Johnnie Melton and Ida Mae Phillips.  Ida Mae Phillips was daughter of Charlie Phillips and Margaret May Lafferty.

  I have tried to get a phone number and have hit dead ends there.  So if any one knows her please pass on a message. 

  Margaret May Lafferty was my father's younger sister.  My dad was really old when I was born. I did meet my aunt May several times and she came to our home in San Diego, CA to visit my dad.  It was the last time I saw her.  She brought dad the old Lafferty family Bible and a small study Bible that had the information of Ida Mae Melton's marriage in it.  

  The Lafferty Bible is already spoken for but this little Phillips/ Melton Bible I would like to give to a family member as I am getting old and my children already plan to burn anything thing they can not figure out what it is.  That bible will be one of the things that will go in the fire.  

  Mary Lafferty Wilson
  marmaduck99 at yahoo.com




  I am but a sinner seeking God. 
   10 Create in me a pure heart, O God, 

         and renew a steadfast spirit within me. 

   11 Do not cast me from your presence 
         or take your Holy Spirit from me.

  Psalms 51: 10-11








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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Tue Feb 16 19:43:35 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:43:35 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw: Paydirt
Message-ID: <FCE2FE6CB665468BBAB6019B7C091D1C@suesteward>

I sent Mary some info off list and also forwarded on info from Vanessa.  It all paid off.   Thought you'd be happy to see her response

----- Original Message ----- 
From: mry wlsn 
To: Sue Steward 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:01 PM
Subject: Paydirt


Found out Kelly has moved to New Mexico.  Her X husband is Waldrop.  Did get the phone number of her sister and called and made contact and we talked for a while.  She has my phone number and my e mail address and the Bible is boxed up and addressed to go off in the morning.  

Printed out about 50 pages of Genealogy that I thought they might be interested in.  To print out all of it would be 100 pages worth.  Sent a photo also that has no names but I think I know which one is my cousin.  She looked like a Lafferty the others do not.  Now to find out if I am right.  Have about a 99% accuracy rate on figuring out who is in photos.  

I am glad I am getting the little bible into family hands.  I have had it since my aunt May brought it to my dad in 1952 or so.  Time it went back into the family it belongs too.  

Thank you all for your help.  I read your e mails all the time my husband is from Oregon and has a lot of his family are buried there.  The US Navy moved us all over and we were 30 years in Louisiana and of all places to move to we moved to the Ozarks in Missouri.   The chiggers and ticks are brutal here in the spring and summer.  Always look forward to that first freeze.  Tick diseases abound.  

Wish we had been able to move back to the west coast.  The pace here is so easy going.  

Thank you again 

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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Tue Feb 16 20:01:00 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:01:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw: Paydirt
In-Reply-To: <FCE2FE6CB665468BBAB6019B7C091D1C@suesteward>
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Sue,  Makes even my heart happy to read this, though it's not my family it's still heart warming.
I love it when family is found even when it's not mine..   Nancy 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Steward 
  To: OR-ROOTS 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:43 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Fw: Paydirt


  I sent Mary some info off list and also forwarded on info from Vanessa.  It all paid off.   Thought you'd be happy to see her response

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mry wlsn 
  To: Sue Steward 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:01 PM
  Subject: Paydirt


  Found out Kelly has moved to New Mexico.  Her X husband is Waldrop.  Did get the phone number of her sister and called and made contact and we talked for a while.  She has my phone number and my e mail address and the Bible is boxed up and addressed to go off in the morning.  

  Printed out about 50 pages of Genealogy that I thought they might be interested in.  To print out all of it would be 100 pages worth.  Sent a photo also that has no names but I think I know which one is my cousin.  She looked like a Lafferty the others do not.  Now to find out if I am right.  Have about a 99% accuracy rate on figuring out who is in photos.  

  I am glad I am getting the little bible into family hands.  I have had it since my aunt May brought it to my dad in 1952 or so.  Time it went back into the family it belongs too.  

  Thank you all for your help.  I read your e mails all the time my husband is from Oregon and has a lot of his family are buried there.  The US Navy moved us all over and we were 30 years in Louisiana and of all places to move to we moved to the Ozarks in Missouri.   The chiggers and ticks are brutal here in the spring and summer.  Always look forward to that first freeze.  Tick diseases abound.  

  Wish we had been able to move back to the west coast.  The pace here is so easy going.  

  Thank you again 




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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Wed Feb 17 07:50:49 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:50:49 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw: Paydirt
References: <FCE2FE6CB665468BBAB6019B7C091D1C@suesteward>
	<952BE073C7E74F5AA92EC4B8C0543E4B@NancyPC>
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It is great to hear about good results.  Gives you hope that eventually you may find some of the answers you need.

Sue
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Fw: Paydirt


  Sue,  Makes even my heart happy to read this, though it's not my family it's still heart warming.
  I love it when family is found even when it's not mine..   Nancy 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sue Steward 
    To: OR-ROOTS 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:43 PM
    Subject: [or-roots] Fw: Paydirt


    I sent Mary some info off list and also forwarded on info from Vanessa.  It all paid off.   Thought you'd be happy to see her response

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: mry wlsn 
    To: Sue Steward 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:01 PM
    Subject: Paydirt


    Found out Kelly has moved to New Mexico.  Her X husband is Waldrop.  Did get the phone number of her sister and called and made contact and we talked for a while.  She has my phone number and my e mail address and the Bible is boxed up and addressed to go off in the morning.  

    Printed out about 50 pages of Genealogy that I thought they might be interested in.  To print out all of it would be 100 pages worth.  Sent a photo also that has no names but I think I know which one is my cousin.  She looked like a Lafferty the others do not.  Now to find out if I am right.  Have about a 99% accuracy rate on figuring out who is in photos.  

    I am glad I am getting the little bible into family hands.  I have had it since my aunt May brought it to my dad in 1952 or so.  Time it went back into the family it belongs too.  

    Thank you all for your help.  I read your e mails all the time my husband is from Oregon and has a lot of his family are buried there.  The US Navy moved us all over and we were 30 years in Louisiana and of all places to move to we moved to the Ozarks in Missouri.   The chiggers and ticks are brutal here in the spring and summer.  Always look forward to that first freeze.  Tick diseases abound.  

    Wish we had been able to move back to the west coast.  The pace here is so easy going.  

    Thank you again 




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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Wed Feb 17 08:25:19 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:25:19 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cousin Connect
In-Reply-To: <FFF77B2E739742A3886F981099AE8D30@miniuserf82ced>
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Another thing to do if you don't get a response is to donate the bible
to the New England Historical and Genealogical Society.  They are
digitizing all bibles they receive or if not that a local genealogical
society might want it.

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Julie
Ross
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:24 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cousin Connect

 

Try posting your inquiry on cousinconnect.com.  You would be surprised
as to what kinds of connections you can make...both of the living and
those that have passed.  Last time I posted three people posted to my
inquiry and my quest was achieved!  Good Luck!

J. Ross

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: mry wlsn <mailto:marmaduck99 at yahoo.com>  

	To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 

	Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:39 PM

	Subject: [or-roots] Dead end

	 

	Kelly Waldrop, Bandon Oregon.  I am looking for her as she is a
descendant of Margaret Elizabeth Melton who married ????.  Margaret
Elizabeth Melton was daughter of Johnnie Melton and Ida Mae Phillips.
Ida Mae Phillips was daughter of Charlie Phillips and Margaret May
Lafferty.
	
	I have tried to get a phone number and have hit dead ends there.
So if any one knows her please pass on a message. 
	
	Margaret May Lafferty was my father's younger sister.  My dad
was really old when I was born. I did meet my aunt May several times and
she came to our home in San Diego, CA to visit my dad.  It was the last
time I saw her.  She brought dad the old Lafferty family Bible and a
small study Bible that had the information of Ida Mae Melton's marriage
in it.  
	
	The Lafferty Bible is already spoken for but this little
Phillips/ Melton Bible I would like to give to a family member as I am
getting old and my children already plan to burn anything thing they can
not figure out what it is.  That bible will be one of the things that
will go in the fire.  
	
	Mary Lafferty Wilson
	marmaduck99 at yahoo.com

	 

	
	
	


	I am but a sinner seeking God. 


	 10 Create in me a pure heart, O God, 

	       and renew a steadfast spirit within me. 

	 11 Do not cast me from your presence 
	       or take your Holy Spirit from me.

	Psalms 51: 10-11


	 


	 

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From cklooster at aol.com  Wed Feb 17 21:55:21 2010
From: cklooster at aol.com (cklooster at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:55:21 -0500
Subject: [or-roots] Cousin Connect
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Just talked to my sister who used to live in Bandon.  Waldrop is a well-known family name there.  While she did not know Kelly Waldrop, she suggested that you contact Charles Waldrop Real Estate Office (780 2nd Street Southeast, Bandon - (541) 347-9455) where someone should certainly be able to point you in the right direction.

Carla








-----Original Message-----
From: Harguess, Dale <dharguess at coastline.edu>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 8:25 am
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cousin Connect



Another thing to do if you don?t get a response is to donate the bible to the New England Historical and Genealogical Society.  They are digitizing all bibles they receive or if not that a local genealogical society might want it.
 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Julie Ross
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 5:24 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cousin Connect

 

Try posting your inquiry on cousinconnect.com.  You would be surprised as to what kinds of connections you can make...both of the living and those that have passed.  Last time I posted three people posted to my inquiry and my quest was achieved!  Good Luck!

J. Ross


----- Original Message ----- 

From: mry wlsn 

To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 

Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:39 PM

Subject: [or-roots] Dead end

 

Kelly Waldrop, Bandon Oregon.  I am looking for her as she is a descendant of Margaret Elizabeth Melton who married ????.  Margaret Elizabeth Melton was daughter of Johnnie Melton and Ida Mae Phillips.  Ida Mae Phillips was daughter of Charlie Phillips and Margaret May Lafferty.

I have tried to get a phone number and have hit dead ends there.  So if any one knows her please pass on a message. 

Margaret May Lafferty was my father's younger sister.  My dad was really old when I was born. I did meet my aunt May several times and she came to our home in San Diego, CA to visit my dad.  It was the last time I saw her.  She brought dad the old Lafferty family Bible and a small study Bible that had the information of Ida Mae Melton's marriage in it.  

The Lafferty Bible is already spoken for but this little Phillips/ Melton Bible I would like to give to a family member as I am getting old and my children already plan to burn anything thing they can not figure out what it is.  That bible will be one of the things that will go in the fire.  

Mary Lafferty Wilson
marmaduck99 at yahoo.com

 




I am but a sinner seeking God. 
 10 Create in me a pure heart, O God, 
       and renew a steadfast spirit within me. 
 11 Do not cast me from your presence 
       or take your Holy Spirit from me.
Psalms 51: 10-11
 

 


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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Thu Feb 18 07:54:33 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:54:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] member who helped
References: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><FFF77B2E739742A3886F981099AE8D30@miniuserf82ced><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B152F@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
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Message-ID: <4B698E99E35E4E81805F170FD231B430@AroundHome>

 To the folks who helped me.
Thanks.
I have been going over all the things that were sent me and made a lot of connections with the help, Also for those links I did not know about are great.
 I found 61 more people in my Matney line I did not know this info about.
 As I search the newpapers and civil war link I am amazed to what I find.
Thanks to those who helped, everyone is wonderfull ;)))

Dan M/Rogers/Cooper/Matney/ etc:
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Thu Feb 18 18:58:48 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:58:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] member who helped
References: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><FFF77B2E739742A3886F981099AE8D30@miniuserf82ced><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B152F@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><8CC7E76177EFE60-49E8-9C09@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com>
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Dan, it is great to hear about these success stories of help from the OR-ROOTS list.  This list is about the greatest I've had contact with.  People jump in to help with your research.

Sue Steward/Hamlin/Moulton/Thomas/Dean

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DanM. 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


   To the folks who helped me.
  Thanks.
  I have been going over all the things that were sent me and made a lot of connections with the help, Also for those links I did not know about are great.
   I found 61 more people in my Matney line I did not know this info about.
   As I search the newpapers and civil war link I am amazed to what I find.
  Thanks to those who helped, everyone is wonderfull ;)))

  Dan M/Rogers/Cooper/Matney/ etc:


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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Thu Feb 18 20:02:26 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:02:26 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] member who helped
References: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><FFF77B2E739742A3886F981099AE8D30@miniuserf82ced><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B152F@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><8CC7E76177EFE60-49E8-9C09@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com><4B698E99E35E4E81805F170FD231B430@AroundHome>
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Sue --

What/who is your Hamlin connection?

Darlene
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Steward 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


  Dan, it is great to hear about these success stories of help from the OR-ROOTS list.  This list is about the greatest I've had contact with.  People jump in to help with your research.

  Sue Steward/Hamlin/Moulton/Thomas/Dean

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: DanM. 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:54 AM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


     To the folks who helped me.
    Thanks.
    I have been going over all the things that were sent me and made a lot of connections with the help, Also for those links I did not know about are great.
     I found 61 more people in my Matney line I did not know this info about.
     As I search the newpapers and civil war link I am amazed to what I find.
    Thanks to those who helped, everyone is wonderfull ;)))

    Dan M/Rogers/Cooper/Matney/ etc:


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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Thu Feb 18 20:39:08 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:39:08 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] member who helped
References: <543118.47453.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com><FFF77B2E739742A3886F981099AE8D30@miniuserf82ced><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B152F@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx><8CC7E76177EFE60-49E8-9C09@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com><4B698E99E35E4E81805F170FD231B430@AroundHome><F5A5E98DA8714AA6B3C0FC0963BDD96E@suesteward>
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My husband's great great grandfather was John Lewis Hamlin, born 28 Nov 1823 in NY or Connecticut.  He was married 3 July 1848 in Peoria, Illinois to Mary Jane Bunn.  After they came to Oregon they were divorced in Douglas County.  He married (2) Mary Jane Conner in Douglas County.  She was the daughter of William Conner II and Theodotia Layton.

John Hamlin died 8 Dec 1878 in Polk County.  He is buried in the Pleasant Hill Cemetery, between Sheridan and Ballston, OR.  Pleasant Hill Cemetery, also known as Red Prairie Cemetery.  2.5 miles west of Ballston.  Site of former Methodist Episcopal Church, T. 6S, R. 4 W., Section 12.  Caretakers who live in adjoining property from the Conner Donation Land Claim:  Jerry and Janet Smith, address: Sheridan, Oregon.   The Pleasant Hill Cemetery is located on the Nathan Conner Donation Land Claim and was established in 1852.  Polk County Cemetery Book Volume 5 page 56.

John L. and Mary Jane (Bunn) Hamlin's  daughter, Mary Fidelia Hamlin, married Stephen Elbridge Steward in Coos County 24 Sep 1866 in Coquille at the home of her mother and stepfather, John T. Moulton and Mary Jane (Bunn) Moulton.

According to John L. Hamlin's estate papers, he and Mary Jane (Conner) Hamlin, had 3 sons:  John Hamlin, Ralph Hamlin, and Waldo "Wally" Hamlin.

That's about all I know about my husband's Hamlin connection.

Sue
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darlene Casteel 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


  Sue --

  What/who is your Hamlin connection?

  Darlene
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sue Steward 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


    Dan, it is great to hear about these success stories of help from the OR-ROOTS list.  This list is about the greatest I've had contact with.  People jump in to help with your research.

    Sue Steward/Hamlin/Moulton/Thomas/Dean

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: DanM. 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:54 AM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


       To the folks who helped me.
      Thanks.
      I have been going over all the things that were sent me and made a lot of connections with the help, Also for those links I did not know about are great.
       I found 61 more people in my Matney line I did not know this info about.
       As I search the newpapers and civil war link I am amazed to what I find.
      Thanks to those who helped, everyone is wonderfull ;)))

      Dan M/Rogers/Cooper/Matney/ etc:


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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 18 21:40:23 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:40:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins lot 6 & 7
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Hey guys I found quiet a bit I will scan and send.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 5:38 PM
Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins lot 6 & 7


> Nancy;
>
> It just says "lot 6 & 7" no street address or subdivision name? In the
> subdivision category we have;
>                                   Town plat book         Town plat page
> North Limits Addition to Salem            13                   037
> North Park Annex in Salem                 22                   048
> North Riviera Addition to Salem           18                   012
> North Salem Fred Meyer                    43                   030
> North Salem Town Plat                     01                   018
> North Salem with Additions                01                   034
>
> Just off th cuff I would bet on North Salem Town Plat
>
> For what it is worth, googling North Salem Addition got me 8 hits 3 ea, NH 
> &
> NY, a google bool of Pacific reporter with a 1913 court case concerning 
> lots
> 11 & 12 and this;
>
> . . .  easter;y a;pmg S r/way line of South St NE to the intrsctn with W
> r/way line of Front St NE thence southerly to the intersection with the
> westerly extension of the s line os lot 7 block 21  etc etc
>
> Now as you cann see from th above, just lot 6 & 7 tells us nothing, I need 
> a
> block number and a subdivision name to be sure, but if this amazing
> coincidence happens to be the lot 7 you want, I think you arw out of luck 
> as
> it's in warehouses along the river.
>
> Les
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Nancy Lee Adams
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:40 PM
>
> Yes, I have the image but looks like invalid was crossed out with a line
> going through it? I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe,
> Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue
> River, Jackson Co., for 12 years & make visits all the time to the old
> family farm. I still can't find James McCubbins grave. I have his Estate
> record but no mention of where he is buried. On the Estate papers it reads
> him & Barbary lived on Lot 6 & 7 North Salem. I don't know where the heck
> that is. Maybe he's buried on that land or died in a nursing home since he
> was an Invalid.. I know the Estate papers were filled out in June 1877 & 
> he
> died Sept 6 1877 North Salem, OR. So they knew he was dying.
>
> Thanks, Nancy
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From marmaduck99 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 18 22:15:58 2010
From: marmaduck99 at yahoo.com (mry wlsn)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:15:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 39
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Thank you for the help.  I did find Kelly who is no longer a Waldrop.  Found a sister of hers in another part of the country and have connected with the family. 

We are exchanging photos and genealogy on facebook. Its been interesting.   Also have other cousins joining in on it all.  The Bible I mailed off to the one I talked to.  Lucky her.  

It has been fun and thank  you all.
Mary Lafferty Wilson

 

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for at the proper time we will reap a harvest 
if we do not give up.
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From ross1948 at bendcable.com  Thu Feb 18 23:52:11 2010
From: ross1948 at bendcable.com (Julie Ross)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:52:11 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Glad you were successful!
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Glad you had success.  Loved your quote...how true it is!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mry wlsn 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 34, Issue 39


  Thank you for the help.  I did find Kelly who is no longer a Waldrop.  Found a sister of hers in another part of the country and have connected with the family. 

  We are exchanging photos and genealogy on facebook. Its been interesting.   Also have other cousins joining in on it all.  The Bible I mailed off to the one I talked to.  Lucky her.  

  It has been fun and thank  you all.
  Mary Lafferty Wilson



  Let us not become weary in doing good, 
  for at the proper time we will reap a harvest 
  if we do not give up.
  Galatians 6:9






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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 19 01:39:48 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:39:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
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Nancy Lee Adams wrote:

> I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe, Josephine Co., 
> OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue River, Jackson Co.


Could you explain "Jump off Joe" in terms of what sort of division it 
was -- city, town, township, area, and roughly where it was, please?  In 
terms of where in Josephine County?

"Jump Off Joe" has numerous meanings in the State of Oregon,  from an 
old rock formation on the beach to a mountain to a creek in Josephine 
county where Dr Mcloughlin's son, Joeseph, fell and was fatally 
injured.  I am not familiar with it as an address.

I ask, because I think I am looking for a Hiram Simpkins reported in the 
same area, possibly with a wife named Catherine.  Another Hiram Simpkins 
can be found with wife named Mary, and family, in the 1860, 1870, & 1880 
census in the Yamhill and Polk Counties area, and I do not believe this 
is the fellow I am looking for.  The larger Simpkins family has a 
plethora of Horatios and Hirams in it.

Thank you,

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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 19 04:17:11 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:17:11 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Jump off Joe in Oregon
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Found this list from an inactive URL from http://nwdata.geol.pdx.edu/ -- 
I wouldn't consider a creek to be a populated place --

Feature Name              County     Latitude  Longitude  Elevation Quadrangle Name

Jumpoff Joe               Jefferson   44.65861   -120.84       3695  Ashwood
Jumpoff Joe               Lincoln     44.64556 -124.06139            Newport North
Jumpoff Joe Camp          Grant       44.80111 -118.70806            Desolation Butte
Jumpoff Joe Creek         Josephine   42.52944 -123.49611            Merlin
Jumpoff Joe Lake          Grant       44.81222 -118.70389            Desolation Butte
Jumpoff Joe Mountain      Linn        44.36917 -122.18222      4285  Carpenter Mountain
Jumpoff Joe Peak          Grant       44.80139 -118.70556      6886  Desolation Butte
Jumpoff Joe Trail         Grant       44.81361 -118.71306            Desolation Butte


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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 19 04:28:47 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:28:47 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Jump off Joe -- Merlin???
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Merlin, Oregon History <http://www.webtrail.com/history/merlin.shtml#>,  
by Dennis Hotchkiss --  http://www.webtrail.com/history/merlin.shtml


The Southern Pacific Railroad established the Jump-Off Joe Station in 
the early 1880's. The name Merlin came from a railroad employee 
<http://www.webtrail.com/history/merlin.shtml#> named David Loring after 
seeing the area inhabited by pigeon hawks also known as merlins. Mr. 
Loring's imagination is also responsible for naming several other towns 
as well, including the city of Medford. Postmaster Lanterman changed the 
name of the post office to Merlin on March 21, 1891. Following Lanterman 
as postmaster were George A. Guild, followed by his daughter, Mattie. 
Ruth Lendberg was postmaster from 1930 to 1967, serving seven 
presidents. Mrs. Lendberg's little green house served as the post office 
and it still stands with flagpole on Pleasant Valley Road, just down the 
street from the present day post office.

Merlin had two school districts in 1886: the Jump Off Joe School 
District had 54 children educated at a cost of $77.00; the Louse Creek 
School District had 26 pupils with a cost of $63.00. These two districts 
combined to form Merlin School District #24 in May of 1894. There was a 
brick school house built in 1912 on the spot where the present day 
elementary school sits. A bell from an older school was placed in the 
brick building and when it was demolished in 1963, it was given to the 
Merlin Community Baptist Church where it hangs today.

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From cklooster at aol.com  Fri Feb 19 06:15:57 2010
From: cklooster at aol.com (cklooster at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:15:57 -0500
Subject: [or-roots] Jump off Joe -- Merlin???
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Bill...my former husband's grandfather, Dale Bonney (who was a long-time resident of Drew, OR) was giving me some family information and mentioned that he had a cousin who lived near Grants Pass; "down around Jump off Joe".  He didn't refer to it as Jump off Joe Creek...but more as the place name of an area. I have always had a curiousity about the name and have a lot of skepticism about the story of Joseph McLaughlin.  For one thing, there are such a number of places in Oregon and Washington called Jump Off Joe. I have wondered if it might have been a popular slang term of the time or if it referenced the nickname of a specific person.  When you look at the historic tendancy to bestow nicknames ("Lighthorse Harry" Lee; "Swampfox" Francis Marion, etc.) it seemed possible to me that there was actually someone whose nickname was Jumpoff Joe.  A few years ago I found reference to Jumpoff Joe McAlester (or McAllister...he is listed under both spellings) who was involved in the Modoc Indian uprising.  Food for thought...

Carla






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From: Chris & Bill Strickland <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Fri, Feb 19, 2010 4:28 am
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Jump off Joe -- Merlin???


Merlin, Oregon History,  by Dennis Hotchkiss --  http://www.webtrail.com/history/merlin.shtml



The Southern Pacific Railroad established the Jump-Off Joe Station in the early 1880's. The name Merlin came from a railroad employee named David Loring after seeing the area inhabited by pigeon hawks also known as merlins. Mr. Loring's imagination is also responsible for naming several other towns as well, including the city of Medford. Postmaster Lanterman changed the name of the post office to Merlin on March 21, 1891. Following Lanterman as postmaster were George A. Guild, followed by his daughter, Mattie. Ruth Lendberg was postmaster from 1930 to 1967, serving seven presidents. Mrs. Lendberg's little green house served as the post office and it still stands with flagpole on Pleasant Valley Road, just down the street from the present day post office.
Merlin had two school districts in 1886: the Jump Off Joe School District had 54 children educated at a cost of $77.00; the Louse Creek School District had 26 pupils with a cost of $63.00. These two districts combined to form Merlin School District #24 in May of 1894. There was a brick school house built in 1912 on the spot where the present day elementary school sits. A bell from an older school was placed in the brick building and when it was demolished in 1963, it was given to the Merlin Community Baptist Church where it hangs today.

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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Fri Feb 19 06:52:01 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:52:01 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
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Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Jump Off Joe, Josephine, Oregon; Roll  T9_1081; Family History Film: 1255081; Page: 139.2000; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 0493.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris & Bill Strickland 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry O Powell


  Nancy Lee Adams wrote:

    I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe, Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue River, Jackson Co.

  Could you explain "Jump off Joe" in terms of what sort of division it was -- city, town, township, area, and roughly where it was, please?  In terms of where in Josephine County?

  "Jump Off Joe" has numerous meanings in the State of Oregon,  from an old rock formation on the beach to a mountain to a creek in Josephine county where Dr Mcloughlin's son, Joeseph, fell and was fatally injured.  I am not familiar with it as an address.

  I ask, because I think I am looking for a Hiram Simpkins reported in the same area, possibly with a wife named Catherine.  Another Hiram Simpkins can be found with wife named Mary, and family, in the 1860, 1870, & 1880 census in the Yamhill and Polk Counties area, and I do not believe this is the fellow I am looking for.  The larger Simpkins family has a plethora of Horatios and Hirams in it.

  Thank you,

  Bill Strickland



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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Fri Feb 19 08:29:00 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:29:00 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Henry O Powell
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Exit 61 northbound (north of Grants Pass) on I-5 is marked Jumpoff Joe.  It is an area at the base of Sexton Mountain.  We used to take that exit to visit my aunt until a couple of years ago when we moved her to an assisted living facility up in Canby.  There is an RV park at the falls on Jumpoff Joe Creek that is accessed via the Hugo exit 66.  Depending on which "history" you read, Jumpoff Joe Creek was named after Joe McLoughlin who fell over the edge of a bluff into the creek and received very severe injuries, or that he was being chased by a band of Indians and when  he reached the bluff above the falls, his hunting partners yelled for him to "Jump off, Joe", which he did, incurring severe injuries that resulted in his death.  The Indians of Jump-off-Joe creek, along with those of Grave creek & Wolf creek, are mentioned in the History of Southern Oregon, published in 1884.  They are identified as "non-treaty" Indians who did not sign onto the 1853 treaty.  A few miles further (maybe 10) on the road off exit 61 is Merlin.  My Dad was working in a fruit packing plant in Merlin (many, many years ago) where he met my mother when she got a job at the plant, and the rest, as they say, "is history".   

Darlene
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  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:39 AM
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  Nancy Lee Adams wrote:

    I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe, Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue River, Jackson Co.

  Could you explain "Jump off Joe" in terms of what sort of division it was -- city, town, township, area, and roughly where it was, please?  In terms of where in Josephine County?

  "Jump Off Joe" has numerous meanings in the State of Oregon,  from an old rock formation on the beach to a mountain to a creek in Josephine county where Dr Mcloughlin's son, Joeseph, fell and was fatally injured.  I am not familiar with it as an address.

  I ask, because I think I am looking for a Hiram Simpkins reported in the same area, possibly with a wife named Catherine.  Another Hiram Simpkins can be found with wife named Mary, and family, in the 1860, 1870, & 1880 census in the Yamhill and Polk Counties area, and I do not believe this is the fellow I am looking for.  The larger Simpkins family has a plethora of Horatios and Hirams in it.

  Thank you,

  Bill Strickland



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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Fri Feb 19 08:32:04 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:32:04 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] member who helped
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Well, that's quite a bit of information .... !!  My gr-gr-grandfather was James Andrew Hamlin, settled in Jackson county, and I thought maybe there was a connection, but not so.  Thank you for your response.

Darlene
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  From: Sue Steward 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


  My husband's great great grandfather was John Lewis Hamlin, born 28 Nov 1823 in NY or Connecticut.  He was married 3 July 1848 in Peoria, Illinois to Mary Jane Bunn.  After they came to Oregon they were divorced in Douglas County.  He married (2) Mary Jane Conner in Douglas County.  She was the daughter of William Conner II and Theodotia Layton.

  John Hamlin died 8 Dec 1878 in Polk County.  He is buried in the Pleasant Hill Cemetery, between Sheridan and Ballston, OR.  Pleasant Hill Cemetery, also known as Red Prairie Cemetery.  2.5 miles west of Ballston.  Site of former Methodist Episcopal Church, T. 6S, R. 4 W., Section 12.  Caretakers who live in adjoining property from the Conner Donation Land Claim:  Jerry and Janet Smith, address: Sheridan, Oregon.   The Pleasant Hill Cemetery is located on the Nathan Conner Donation Land Claim and was established in 1852.  Polk County Cemetery Book Volume 5 page 56.

  John L. and Mary Jane (Bunn) Hamlin's  daughter, Mary Fidelia Hamlin, married Stephen Elbridge Steward in Coos County 24 Sep 1866 in Coquille at the home of her mother and stepfather, John T. Moulton and Mary Jane (Bunn) Moulton.

  According to John L. Hamlin's estate papers, he and Mary Jane (Conner) Hamlin, had 3 sons:  John Hamlin, Ralph Hamlin, and Waldo "Wally" Hamlin.

  That's about all I know about my husband's Hamlin connection.

  Sue
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    From: Darlene Casteel 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 8:02 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


    Sue --

    What/who is your Hamlin connection?

    Darlene
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      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:58 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] member who helped


      Dan, it is great to hear about these success stories of help from the OR-ROOTS list.  This list is about the greatest I've had contact with.  People jump in to help with your research.

      Sue Steward/Hamlin/Moulton/Thomas/Dean


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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Fri Feb 19 11:34:26 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:34:26 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins lot 6 & 7
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Hi Marsha and Everybody,        Marsha wrote: 'Hey guys I found quiet a bit 
I will scan and send'.


What do ya have? Any more on my MCubbins : ) Gosh I think all I need is a 
clue to head me in the right direction.. I am lost not knowing who James 
McCubbins parents were for sure. I can only guess but can't prove..  'THANK 
YOU' to everybody who has helped me, I think it's almost a lost cause to 
find his parents & his wife China's maiden name.

Nancy


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To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] McCubbins lot 6 & 7


> Hey guys I found quiet a bit I will scan and send.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leslie Chapman" <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 5:38 PM
> Subject: [or-roots] McCubbins lot 6 & 7
>
>
>> Nancy;
>>
>> It just says "lot 6 & 7" no street address or subdivision name? In the
>> subdivision category we have;
>>                                   Town plat book         Town plat page
>> North Limits Addition to Salem            13                   037
>> North Park Annex in Salem                 22                   048
>> North Riviera Addition to Salem           18                   012
>> North Salem Fred Meyer                    43                   030
>> North Salem Town Plat                     01                   018
>> North Salem with Additions                01                   034
>>
>> Just off th cuff I would bet on North Salem Town Plat
>>
>> For what it is worth, googling North Salem Addition got me 8 hits 3 ea, 
>> NH &
>> NY, a google bool of Pacific reporter with a 1913 court case concerning 
>> lots
>> 11 & 12 and this;
>>
>> . . .  easter;y a;pmg S r/way line of South St NE to the intrsctn with W
>> r/way line of Front St NE thence southerly to the intersection with the
>> westerly extension of the s line os lot 7 block 21  etc etc
>>
>> Now as you cann see from th above, just lot 6 & 7 tells us nothing, I 
>> need a
>> block number and a subdivision name to be sure, but if this amazing
>> coincidence happens to be the lot 7 you want, I think you arw out of luck 
>> as
>> it's in warehouses along the river.
>>
>> Les
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  Nancy Lee Adams
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:40 PM
>>
>> Yes, I have the image but looks like invalid was crossed out with a line
>> going through it? I just found Felix Hogue/Hoge was living Jump off Joe,
>> Josephine Co., OR. later on.. I know where that is as I lived in Rogue
>> River, Jackson Co., for 12 years & make visits all the time to the old
>> family farm. I still can't find James McCubbins grave. I have his Estate
>> record but no mention of where he is buried. On the Estate papers it 
>> reads
>> him & Barbary lived on Lot 6 & 7 North Salem. I don't know where the heck
>> that is. Maybe he's buried on that land or died in a nursing home since 
>> he
>> was an Invalid.. I know the Estate papers were filled out in June 1877 & 
>> he
>> died Sept 6 1877 North Salem, OR. So they knew he was dying.
>>
>> Thanks, Nancy



From denisesproed at onlinenw.com  Fri Feb 19 22:02:34 2010
From: denisesproed at onlinenw.com (Denise Sproed)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:02:34 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Jump off Joe -- Merlin???
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>
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I have a mystery branch that was in Jump Off Joe in the 1890 Military Census.  This man was a school teacher in 1880 (listed on the same page with my great-great-grandfather, W.W. Gage - the cousin of the wife in the family below.)    I haven't been able to find Albert & Sarah after 1900 in Merlin.  They just disappear.  Their son remained in Oregon.     Denise

Subject*          Albert H. Osborn (1253)

Occupation*                     __ ___ ____    school teacher; farmer.

Birth*                                  __ Jul 1848    Wisconsin.

Milit-Beg*                          29 Apr 1863    Pvt C 122 IA Inf. Enlisted 29 Apr 1863 Discharged 26 Oct 1864. Served 1yr 5 mo 27 days.  Source-"Rogue Digger" Vol. 9 No. 1 p. 24.

Marriage*                          14 Oct 1874   Sarah Jane Gage (227) (b. Apr 1853,          ); Jackson County, Oregon; Oregon Sentinel 24 Oct 1874 (3-3)-stated Sarah Jane Gage married Albert H. Osborn at the residence of Rev. M.A. Williams in Jackson Co. 14 Oct 1874      Jackson County Marriage Records.

Daughter:                         __ Sep 1875   Alice A. Osborn (1254); Jackson County, Oregon.

Son:                                 20 Nov 1877   Jesse D. Osborn (1255); Medford, Jackson County, Oregon.

Daughter:                         __ Mar 1880   Sarah Francis Osborn (1256); Jackson County, Oregon.

Census:                            16 Jun 1880    Jackson County, Oregon; p. 13, House 114

Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Flounce Rock, Jackson, Oregon; Roll: T9_1081; Family History Film: 1255081; Page: 56.1000; Enumeration District: 50; Image: 0324.

Daughter:                         __ Apr 1883   Ona Osborn (1262); Jackson County, Oregon.

Daughter:                         __ Oct 1885   Ines J. Osborn (1271); Oregon.

Census:                            __ ___ 1890    Jump Off Joe, Josephine County, Oregon; OR Military Census House #103; Grants Pass Post office

Source Citation: Year: 1890; Census Place: Jump Off Joe, Josephine, Oregon; Roll: 77; Page: 2; Enumeration District: 70.

Daughter:                          __ Jul 1890   Irma Jane Osborn (1270); Oregon; 1900 census lists DOB; California Death Index, Ancestry, 360 West 4800 North, Provo, Utah 84604, 801-705-7000, Name: Irma Jane Elrod  [Irma Jane Osborn] Social Security #: 549205135 Sex: FEMALE Birth Date: 9 Jul 1897 Birthplace: Oregon Death Date: 8 Jun 1990 Death Place: San Bernardino Mother's Maiden Name: Gage FATHER'S SURNAME: Osborn. Hereinafter cited as California Death Index.

Census*                             2 Jun 1900    Merlin, Josephine County, Oregon; House #7 Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Merlin, Josephine, Oregon; Roll: T623_1347 Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 20.

.

Possible Brothers Death: 31 Dec 1919   Josephine County, Oregon; not the correct man-OR Death Certificate #80 filed 2 Jan 1920 

Adelbert Osborn of 215 D St, Grants Pass, Josephine Co OR 

male, white, married to N.E. Osborn; farmer; b 3 Apr 1845 in Cayug Co NY son of Isaac Osborn b NJ & --- Wilson b unknown age 74 yrs 8 mo; informant Mrs. N.E. Osborn of 215 West D St 

died 31 Dec 1919 of mitral insufficiency and senility; buried Jan 1st 1920 in Williams, Ore by L.B. Hall of Grants Pass; Oregon Death Index, The Personal Library of Denise Sproed Merritt, Denise Sproed Merritt, 10444 SE Westland Ln, Dayton, Yamhill, OR 97114, Name: Osborn, Adelbert  Death Date: 31 Dec 1919  County: Josephine  Certificate No.: 80. Hereinafter cited as Oregon Death Index.
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From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sun Feb 21 09:45:17 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:45:17 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
In-Reply-To: <C168C645CDDA4A6B993E2AE8543ABFA3@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAEPICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

I was in Woodburn last week to throw myself on the mercy of traffic court
(maybe saved ten dollars) and looking for the courthouse I noticed a
building across the street that was quite old and interesting, I walked
around to the front and it was called Mid Willamette manufacturing or some
such. The name wasn't too important, but what amused me was under the name
of the business on the door they note specializin in pack frames and
stirrups or some such. Do you think maybe the sign on that door has been
there for a while?

Les



From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 21 10:14:34 2010
From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:14:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAEPICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAEPICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <786782.3432.qm@web112419.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

So where's the picture of this treasure?

 Robyn
rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com

Interested in Oregon History? Check out my webpages at
coquillevalley.org or genealogytrails.com (Coos & Curry Counties)




________________________________
From: Leslie Chapman <reedsportchapmans at verizon.net>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 9:45:17 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn

I was in Woodburn last week to throw myself on the mercy of traffic court
(maybe saved ten dollars) and looking for the courthouse I noticed a
building across the street that was quite old and interesting, I walked
around to the front and it was called Mid Willamette manufacturing or some
such. The name wasn't too important, but what amused me was under the name
of the business on the door they note specializin in pack frames and
stirrups or some such. Do you think maybe the sign on that door has been
there for a while?

Les

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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 21 11:11:44 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:11:44 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
In-Reply-To: <4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC>
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In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
"Irian".

Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name 
popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
thought might be of interest to some:

among the children of George K. Gay by 1st wife, Louise/Louisa Johnson

"Mary Ann Gay  not in either 1850 or 1860 census in house of George Gay 
- married Hiram Simkins June 15, 1857, Yamhill County Marriages, book 
"A-B" page 16. Witnesses William Matheny and William Miller. Data on 
this family can be found in Portrait and Biographical Record of the 
Willamette Valley) Chapman Pub. Co. page 694, and in Clark's History of 
the '~ Willamette Valley, Vol  iL~ pages 653 to 656. (The latter 
reference contains much data on Geo K. Gay)."

from the DAR Monthly  Bulletin    March 1, 1965, in an article titled 
'PIONEER FAMILIES OF YAMHILL COUNTY, OREGON -- Biographical sketches of 
persons listed in the United States Government Census of 1850', Vol?ume 
One, compiled by Mrs. Mercedes J. Paul and Mrs.  Ralph W. Van Valin for 
Champoeg Chapter, DAR , Newberg, Oregon, 1953.

Bill Strickland


From reedsportchapmans at verizon.net  Sun Feb 21 11:42:19 2010
From: reedsportchapmans at verizon.net (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:42:19 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
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Message-ID: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEPJCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>

Unfortunatley I didn't have a camera or even my cell phone. I will be sure
to get it first chance I get though.

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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 21 11:50:14 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:50:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net>
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Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for them. 
I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off hand.
   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those old 
days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in most 
places eg Champoeg.
   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book into 
the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of history 
for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always wonder 
how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak.
Dan M
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From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
"Irian".

Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
thought might be of interest to some:
 



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 21 12:19:34 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:19:34 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
In-Reply-To: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEPJCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEEEPJCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4B819556.9090208@earthlink.net>

Old downtown Woodburn is an interesting place, well worth checking out 
-- sorta between I-5 and 99E and not on either one, but between them -- 
either you are going to somewhere downtown, or you miss it entirely on 
either of the two major N-S hiways or going  E-W on 211.

Bill Strickland


From ssteward at ccountry.net  Sun Feb 21 14:11:05 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:11:05 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt

We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
called Matheny Ferry.

Sue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the
admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for them.
I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is
French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off hand.
   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in
same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those old
days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in most
places eg Champoeg.
   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the
Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book into
the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any
Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of history
for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own
history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always wonder
how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak.
Dan M
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
"Irian".

Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
thought might be of interest to some:


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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Sun Feb 21 15:28:04 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:28:04 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
Message-ID: <f5b3.62d8da62.38b31b84@aol.com>

I'm thinking old 99 went right through the main part  of Woodburn before 
I-5. We had to travel 99 from Medford to Portland several  times a year from 
1949 when we moved to Medford from  Portland.
Carroll Cooper summers
 
Old  downtown Woodburn is an interesting place, well worth checking out 
--  sorta between I-5 and 99E and not on either one, but between them --  
either you are going to somewhere downtown, or you miss it entirely on  
either of the two major N-S hiways or going  E-W on 211.

Bill  Strickland
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Sun Feb 21 18:03:01 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:03:01 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
References: <f5b3.62d8da62.38b31b84@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CCC30D21D02942FBB59295380261EBEA@AroundHome>

I remember those old hwys too.
We sure missed the towns later tho.
Once we started going the hwy we stopped trying to get to the towns.
Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn


  I'm thinking old 99 went right through the main part of Woodburn before I-5. We had to travel 99 from Medford to Portland several times a year from 1949 when we moved to Medford from Portland.
  Carroll Cooper summers
    Old downtown Woodburn is an interesting place, well worth checking out 
    -- sorta between I-5 and 99E and not on either one, but between them -- 
    either you are going to somewhere downtown, or you miss it entirely on 
    either of the two major N-S hiways or going  E-W on 211.

    Bill Strickland
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From denisesproed at onlinenw.com  Sun Feb 21 18:52:00 2010
From: denisesproed at onlinenw.com (Denise Sproed)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:52:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] County 46
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>	<4B7E83FF.1010605@earthlink.net>	<8CC7F8530460B62-2274-9EBC@webmail-m004.sysops.aol.com>
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I was looking for a man who was listed on the Oregon Death Index with a death county #46.  The information I was given at the Archives was that those may be for individuals buried in Oregon who actually died in Washington.  I checked the WA Death Index at http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov and sure enough that gentleman died in Vancouver and then was buried in Oregon.

I didn't remember reading that on our list before so I thought I'd mention it.

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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 11:16:04 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:16:04 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENLCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <7DC56B1EE7664D4C952139F8F8415DAA@AroundHome>

I wonder if he could have been in the other forces.
Its was a long trip from the east to Oregon and I an having a time learning the travels.
   Did any one notice in any of the finds if there was a father to William H ?
We got the right one on those census from the folks who found him, and I was surprised to find the 3 more aunt n uncles listed. 
   I am trying to figure out the right one for the death date and if he was buried in Lane, did he died in another county like below?
 I am not the expert as some of you are here ;)
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Leslie Chapman 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  Okay, how about William H.

        Name Death Date County Certificate # 
        Rogers, William F 03 October 1923 Marion 663 
        Rogers, William 02 July 1923 Jackson 127 
        Rogers, William Dennett 03 July 1929 Douglas 133 
        Rogers, William Bradford 25 May 1929 Coos 121 
        Rogers, William C 09 October 1917 Tillamook 35 
        Rogers, William Bruce 13 August 1919 Lane 218 
        Rogers, William H 06 February 1913 Douglas 1012 

    http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/douglas/rosenat/roseburg_pr.htm

    Rogers, W H, d. 02/06/1913, USN, Plot: A 11 R30, 
    That help with whether he is the right one? Maybe he went to the VA hospital, Oh, wait, don't think it has been there that long. Hmm? too bad I don't know my county history better.
    Les 


    On reading a death cert for another member of the family I learned Henry Rogers is = William Henry Rogers .
    We had company tonight from over 130 miles away brought me some supplies.
    So I was busy till 935 pm and reading the rest of it.
       I found all my Rogers notes.
     Census papers to death certs, lots of pages. And no death date.
    I will check out the Wm Rogers below,, but he is on the 1900 census as 70 . Thats pushing the age a bit.
    Dan.


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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 11:37:51 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:37:51 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
References: <15db9.588d92cc.38a497ef@aol.com>
Message-ID: <F0409DBABAE0486484833036F3C3FD3B@AroundHome>

The book has several pictures, 2 at lease of James and one of his wife.
No mention of Nathaniel. 
I found the book today.
Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Is this the book that you mentioned having James Fenimore Cooper in it? I was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather Nathaniel Pada Cooper from upstate NY.
  Carroll Cooper Summers
  Carrollouc at aol.com 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 11:52:22 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:52:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers
References: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <87ECD4ED3D79431F96896FF89FEBB539@AroundHome>

I got caught up in things here and nealry lost track of what I was doing here.
<sighzzzz> and now as I get going, sadly I am off to chores in the nice sunshine.
   I am still focussed on these people I been writng about tho.

I am hopin ta find one person who might have found any thing to help this brick wall keep crumbling.

Thanks all ;)
Back later.
Dan M
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 11:54:14 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:54:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error
References: <16477.ad7c996.38a49adf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5849A5E82CFB4192828E4C8E96BCD4C9@AroundHome>

In case I did not mention it, I checked the site out, how ever as they have Henry there, he is listed as a PVT and the muster book shows him a corporal.  But I found 61 Matney in there wow !!
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Rogers I made an error


  Recently my son and I located a Civil War headstone on private property in Baker Co. for a great grand uncle. It too had no date, just rank and company. I sent a photo of it to David Samuelson and he located from NARA (I think) a card showing the same information plus a date. Why it was not on the stone is a mystery. The govt. supplied CW headstones from about 1864 to 1903 and this one was on the pinkish side. My grandson, who had recently finished a five year enlistment with the OR Ntl Guard recognized it as a military headstone as soon as he saw the photo we took. If you have Ancestry you can see a copy of the card by searching for James FitzJames Cooper (J.F.J. COOPER on the headstone). His is the last card shown.
  Carroll Cooper Summers
     I made an error.
    Its been so long since I saw the headstone picture I thought it was I.O.F.
    Wrong - my applogies.
    Its
    O.O.F.

    All it says on the stone is his name, O.O.F. and 44 wis.inf.
    thats where I had the memory that I thought was 1844.
    SO now that I found this, the only thing I dont know is why no death date?
    Why no records of the burial if there is a stone and how do I find out any thing more?
    The picture is 18kb if any one wants a copy.
    Dan M = 


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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 11:56:46 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:56:46 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] James Fennimor Cooper
References: <832549580.2235851265827235680.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><AF8F4A324F89415A82669F804FD3FBE0@AroundHome><6cb1312c1002101209x7d6a7327pfa9efb252581165f@mail.gmail.com><C25EC4FD4B344CDC9A8E833F4F55BB73@AroundHome>
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 How many here are related to the listed name ?
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 12:20:00 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:20:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <317920.86239.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><8D08DEADDE0B4AEFB3AFE087B86EF525@HP><412536.44441.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><570CEA67EBB044DAB7EA15151F43F12B@OwnerPC><7EAFF6717059462B9A0DA8097059D122@AroundHome>
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Well you did me a lot of good help.
I finally got all the soap of my cds, I use a spray bottle and cold water so not to loosen the labels.   Most worked ok, but some labored and I have a stack of 30 or so that wont boot.
   All in all, I would say for the ride, I got 99 % back .
a lot of my papers are all found and in a box all wiped off, boy that powdered soap makes your hands slick. Later I will file things little at a time, this all gives me a reason to reopen some old doors.
Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha BradleyLuthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  I didn't pay attention it was just in my notes I quess I missed 
  it to.    oops 


  On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:19 AM, DanM. <mygen2 at d-matney.com> wrote:

     Well I want to thank all the folks for the help here.
    I am a little embarrassed as to have assumed it was O.O.F and Marsha cleared that up.
    I just saw the caps and did not look any closer, not good for a researcher.
    Thanks Marsha for this because I will take more time on details from now own lets say * eyes open * <G>
       I was impressed with the Civil war link and the digital papers.
     As others, I will make the links on my website clear for folks who visit.
    Any one with other links that are multi useable folks can send them to me private please.

    I have learned a lot recently.
       For those who don't know, I lost about 8 years of really doing good for some reason I was in a depression and now am all alert again, and out here in the fresh air of the high desert really helped get me out of the dumps and writers block. I don't recall last time I was at the Oregon archive but its been a while.

    So I was not going to try to rescue all my files and cd`s and stuff after the trailer house was trashed and every thing was scrambled, there is laundry soap power on most of the papers and cd`s the trailer did a flip and every thing inside was coated with soap or sewer from what was in the lines as the house landed almost upside down.
       So the file cabs were destroyed and the desk, both pc`s and the tv, my pc was stuck through a cupboard door, it still booted altho the frame of the pc was so bent the side popped off and the front was missing, I managed to save some things off the hard drive before it stopped working.

    Now with most things beginning to show up from all the plastic bags we filled I might be able to sorta resurrect my genealogy on this laptop.

    Many thanks
    Dan M - `ol Dusty

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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 12:22:11 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:22:11 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEMENICBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>
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I was curious about the Henry in Baker, maybe he was in a different CO?
When he died ?
Might be a news paper mention some place.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Leslie Chapman 
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  Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  Dan; thought I'd  take a shot at one of the links I posted earlier;

        Oregon Death Index Search Results 
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        Records Found: 5  
        Name Death Date County Certificate # 
        Rogers, Henry James 27 March 1925 Tillamook 28 
        Rogers, Henry E 22 January 1913 Washington 664 
        Rogers, Henry Wm 31 August 1920 Umatilla 235 
        Rogers, Henry Mansel 06 September 1920 Lane 292 
        Rogers, Henry 30 April 1909 Baker 927 



  Does Mansel work for a middle name?

  Les C
    -----Original Message-----
    From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]On Behalf Of DanM.
    Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 7:05 PM
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    Ok
    I found my Henry Rogers on the 1900 Springfield Oregon census with wife and son/
        He was 70 at this time.
     He is also originally from NY this is a good clue.
    Wish it gave middle names.
    Now to find a death date and most likely ignore the Henry of CA of the same death date? I have 3 Henry Rogers died 1909.

    2 are from NY.
    I will see what I can find out.
    another clue is one of the people in this tree ( Ward or Brothers ) is second cousin to the old Queen of Holland - Wilhelmina.

    Dan M 


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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 12:31:35 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:31:35 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown
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I am still digesting this.
I have found all my Rogers things, now trying to piece it together in FTM.
I am getting behind my self I feel like I am in reverse again making a sun room for our research and arts and stuff 16x16 with 3 7 foot x 3 foot windows for light and solar heat in the winter facing the sun.

Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kith-n-Kin 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  OK, trying to moosh this all together.

   

  Henry Rogers, Co.F of the 44th Wis Infantry

  Buried at an unknown time at the Laurel Grove Cemetery in Springfield, Lane County, Oregon.

   

  There is only one Rogers listed on FindAGrave in this cemetery.  Other pictures of Laurel Grove show it to be a badly overgrown cemetery. Is there a census somewhere in Springfield/Eugene?

  I noticed that on another list you knew some of the names of people in Laurel Grove. Was one of them Elizabeth?

   

  On the website, you have listed one George Harvey Rogers, who m Alice Brothers - Harrisburg Dec 18 1940. When and where was he born?  I found a DC for Alice Rogers, spouse George, who died 18 Dec 1840. So, I'm thinking that's your person? 

   

  The 1900 gives us some additional information. 

  Henry Rogers, b Nov 1829, age 70, married 35 years, (this is penciled over "47") so married about 1865. He b NY, father b NY, m b VT, no occupation

  Elizabeth W, wife, b Jul 1844, 55, m 35, five children, four living. B Wis, father b NY, m b PA, no occupation

  Harvey, son, b Apr 1877, age 23, b Minnesota, fb NY, mb Wisc., sawmill laborer.

   

  The 1880, then, gives us further information:

   

  Forest City, Meeker County, Minn:

   

  Swupe, Frank, 42, cooper, b IA, fb Penn, mb Ohio

  Louise, 39, wife, keeping house, b IA, fb Tenn, mb NY

  Ida, 14, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

  Etta, 11, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

  Rogers, Henry, 49, general merchandise, b NY, NY, NY

  Elisabeth, 35, wife, keeping house, b Wisc, NY, NY

  Frank L, 17, son, at school, b Wisc, NY, NY

  Hettie I, 12, dau, at school, b Wisc, NY, Wis

  Harvey G, 3, son, b Minn, NY, Wis

  Gertrude S, 8 mo, b Minn, NY, Wis

   

  Was the mother of the first two children someone other than Elisabeth?

   

  To the 1870, in Forest Prairie, Meeker County, Minn, we have:

   

  23/23

  Rogers, Alfred, 40, farmer, NY

  Uphemier, 27, Wis

  Manford, 3, Minn

  Gordiner, Catha, 7, Minn

  24/24

  Bentley, Hiram, 39, farmer, NY

  Eliza, 35, keeping house, NY

  Frank, 14, Michigan

  Burt, 11, Michigan

  25/25

  Rogers, Henry, 39, farmer, NY

  Elizabeth, 26, Wisconsin

  Laura E, 12, Wisc

  William, 10, Wisc

  Frank, 8, Wisc

  Hettie, 2, Wisc.

   

  I'm having no luck finding the family before 1870.  Maybe someone else will have better luck.

   

  Pat

  In Tucson

   

   

   

   

  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:59 PM
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 12:33:40 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:33:40 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] QRE:  Henry Rogers>death date unknown
References: <6F1395CFEA60465AA1C0538390C8F4A6@AroundHome><FMEHJNJJFFLBBPCKKPPEAENLCBAA.reedsportchapmans@verizon.net>	<00a501caadc6$36585950$a3090bf0$@net><3BC3C84AD3FF4A689B2EC2E9FCB6602E@AroundHome><03b901caae61$94325df0$bc9719d0$@net>
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I was just wondering if in all this some place his parents might be listed.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue Steward 
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  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] QRE: Henry Rogers>death date unknown


  1870 United States Federal Census
  Name:Henry Rogers
  Birth Year:abt 1831
  Age in 1870:39
  Birthplace:New York
  Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
  Race:White
  Gender:Male
  Value of real estate:
  Post Office:Forest
  Household Members:NameAge
  Henry Rogers39
  Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota; Roll  T132_7; Image: 362; Family History Library Film: 830427.

  1870 United States Federal Census
  Name:Elizabeth Rogers
  Birth Year:abt 1844
  Age in 1870:26
  Birthplace:Wisconsin
  Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
  Race:White
  Gender:Female
  Post Office:Forest

  1870 United States Federal Census
  Name:Frank Rogers
  Birth Year:abt 1862
  Age in 1870:8
  Birthplace:Wisconsin
  Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
  Race:White
  Gender:Male
  Post Office:Forest

  1870 United States Federal Census
  Name:Hettie Rogers
  Birth Year:abt 1868
  Age in 1870:2
  Birthplace:Wisconsin
  Home in 1870:Forest Prairie, Meeker, Minnesota
  Race:White
  Gender:Female
  Value of real estate:
  Post Office:Forest
  Household Members:NameAge
  Hettie Rogers2

  I tried to look at the image on Heritage Quest but it was basically unreadable.   
    From: Kith-n-Kin 
    To: 'or-roots mail list' 
    Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:09 AM
    Subject: [or-roots] QRE: Henry Rogers>death date unknown


    Dan

     

    I got this from Ancestry.com, but it is also available from FamilySearch.org (the transcript) with the family listed. Also on HeritageQuest, which I get through my library. Not on Footnote as I recall.

     

    I only included the Shupes because they were in the same dwelling. You never know when they may turn out to be related.

     

    I'll send it to you "off-list".

     

    Pat

     

    From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dan M
    Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:56 PM
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    Comments I snipped all but this I am talking about.

    If this is an 1880 for Minn, the names in red match my group sheet, but the Oregon 1900 census only shows Henry - Elizabeth - Harvey.

        SO I suspect the older ones must have moved out.

    Where did you find this one online ?

       I have Hettie, Harvey and Gertrude in my files, but not Frank.

     

    Dan M

     

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      From: Kith-n-Kin 

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      Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:36 PM

      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Henry Rogers>death date unknown

       

        

      The 1880, then, gives us further information:

       

      Forest City, Meeker County, Minn:

       

      Swupe, Frank, 42, cooper, b IA, fb Penn, mb Ohio

      Louise, 39, wife, keeping house, b IA, fb Tenn, mb NY

      Ida, 14, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

      Etta, 11, dau, at school, b IA, IA IA

      Rogers, Henry, 49, general merchandise, b NY, NY, NY

      Elisabeth, 35, wife, keeping house, b Wisc, NY, NY

      Frank L, 17, son, at school, b Wisc, NY, NY

      Hettie I, 12, dau, at school, b Wisc, NY, Wis

      Harvey G, 3, son, b Minn, NY, Wis

      Gertrude S, 8 mo, b Minn, NY, Wis

       

       



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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 12:35:47 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:35:47 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Powell
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I am still looking for the book on Powel's
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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Mon Feb 22 15:34:52 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:34:52 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
Message-ID: <19884.2aee1383.38b46e9c@aol.com>

Me too, but sometimes my son and I take the old routes  between Salem and 
Portland just for the fun of it. He is amazed at the old towns  and what we 
are missing by taking the freeways all of the  time.
Carroll Cooper summers
 
I remember those old hwys too.
We sure missed the towns later tho.
Once we started going the hwy we stopped trying to get to  the towns.
Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _CARROLLOUC at aol.com_ (mailto:CARROLLOUC at aol.com)  
To: _or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ 
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Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:28  PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Old business in  Wood burn


I'm thinking old 99 went right through the main  part of Woodburn before 
I-5. We had to travel 99 from Medford to Portland  several times a year from 
1949 when we moved to Medford from  Portland.
Carroll Cooper summers
 
Old  downtown Woodburn is an interesting place, well worth checking out 
--  sorta between I-5 and 99E and not on either one, but between them --  
either you are going to somewhere downtown, or you miss it entirely on  
either of the two major N-S hiways or going  E-W on  211.

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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Mon Feb 22 15:50:04 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:50:04 EST
Subject: [or-roots] James Fennimor Cooper
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Dan, I read through the very interesting bio of James  Fenimore cooper. 
Unfortunately, I don't think my gr gr grandpa, Nathaniel Parda  Cooper was 
related to him.. No unless it was through an uncle or cousin of JF  Cooper. Na
thaniel was b in 1805 in upstate NY. My brother gave his DNA for the  test but 
we don't seem to belong to anyone on the DNA list so far. I have been  
hunting the rascals family since 1972 - wpmder of O wo;; ever jave to,e ;eft tp  
fomd jos fa,o;u/ 
Carroll Cooper  Summers
 
How many here are related to the listed name  ?
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 17:57:09 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:57:09 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] James Fennimor Cooper
References: <19fa3.41d4419e.38b4722c@aol.com>
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Don't forget Cooper is an occupational name, most in the early days we just lots of other people non related.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
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  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:50 PM
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  Dan, I read through the very interesting bio of James Fenimore cooper. Unfortunately, I don't think my gr gr grandpa, Nathaniel Parda Cooper was related to him.. No unless it was through an uncle or cousin of JF Cooper. Nathaniel was b in 1805 in upstate NY. My brother gave his DNA for the test but we don't seem to belong to anyone on the DNA list so far. I have been hunting the rascals family since 1972 - wpmder of O wo;; ever jave to,e ;eft tp fomd jos fa,o;u/ 
  Carroll Cooper  Summers
     How many here are related to the listed name ?
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Mon Feb 22 18:17:00 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] James Fennimor Cooper
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Yes - I read somewhere Cooper means 'barrell maker'

Nancy
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  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:57 PM
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  Don't forget Cooper is an occupational name, most in the early days we just lots of other people non related.
  Dan M
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    From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
    To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
    Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] James Fennimor Cooper


    Dan, I read through the very interesting bio of James Fenimore cooper. Unfortunately, I don't think my gr gr grandpa, Nathaniel Parda Cooper was related to him.. No unless it was through an uncle or cousin of JF Cooper. Nathaniel was b in 1805 in upstate NY. My brother gave his DNA for the test but we don't seem to belong to anyone on the DNA list so far. I have been hunting the rascals family since 1972 - wpmder of O wo;; ever jave to,e ;eft tp fomd jos fa,o;u/ 
    Carroll Cooper  Summers
       How many here are related to the listed name ?
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Mon Feb 22 18:33:23 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:33:23 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] James Fennimor Cooper
References: <19fa3.41d4419e.38b4722c@aol.com><9B3F556C86224685A26C8F2530EB1503@AroundHome>
	<861EA70811DF4BF4A48E8955AAC0D087@NancyPC>
Message-ID: <B61419D5DDBD4D7E8B4D404D892C1541@AroundHome>

Containers.
Coups etc:

Yes it is interesting to know that before there were a lot of surnames people had titles of place name and occupation or both.

Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 6:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] James Fennimor Cooper


  Yes - I read somewhere Cooper means 'barrell maker' 
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From daviesw739 at aol.com  Mon Feb 22 20:42:59 2010
From: daviesw739 at aol.com (daviesw739)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:42:59 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
In-Reply-To: <9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward>
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>,
	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>,
	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>,
	<4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net>,
	<DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome>,
	<9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward>
Message-ID: <36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>

The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

Walt 

PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  



In a message dated 02/21/10 14:10:27 Pacific Standard Time, ssteward at ccountry.net writes:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 

We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
called Matheny Ferry. 

Sue 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for them. 
I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off hand. 
  I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those old 
days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in most 
places eg Champoeg. 
  Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book into 
the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of history 
for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always wonder 
how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
Dan M 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
"Irian". 

Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name 
popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
thought might be of interest to some: 


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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 22 21:12:01 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:12:01 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>,
	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>,
	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>,
	<4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net>,
	<DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome>,
	<9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward>
	<36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C63169C949BA4ABCB75A18EE26BA1D08@AroundHome>

Hey Howdy Walt :))))))))))))))))))))))))
Was nice to hear from you.
Hows the farm and you still do the fairs ?
Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


  The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

  Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

  Walt 

  PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  



  In a message dated 02/21/10 14:10:27 Pacific Standard Time, ssteward at ccountry.net writes:
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 

    We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
    called Matheny Ferry. 

    Sue 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
    To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
    Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


    Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
    admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for them. 
    I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
    French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off hand. 
      I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
    same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those old 
    days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in most 
    places eg Champoeg. 
      Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
    Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book into 
    the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
    Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of history 
    for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
    history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always wonder 
    how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
    Dan M 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
    To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
    Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
    Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


    In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 - - one 
    in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
    numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
    Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
    County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
    "Irian". 

    Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name 
    popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
    thought might be of interest to some: 


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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Feb 23 06:54:51 2010
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:54:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
In-Reply-To: <19884.2aee1383.38b46e9c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1761100096.7425201266936891638.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I remember Old Hwy 99E all the way to Modesto, California, before the current I5, now take old 99 quite often between Portland and Salem, also like 99W.
The Comments on names is a interesting fact, Most names are from place's or Occupations,but many have meanings also, my first name "Glen", means of the Earth.

Glen Jones Portland
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From dharguess at coastline.edu  Tue Feb 23 08:42:14 2010
From: dharguess at coastline.edu (Harguess, Dale)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:42:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Old business in Wood burn
In-Reply-To: <1761100096.7425201266936891638.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <19884.2aee1383.38b46e9c@aol.com>
	<1761100096.7425201266936891638.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B1E52@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>

And my name Dale means valley and I was born and raised in a Valley and I still miss it.

 

 

I remember Old Hwy 99E all the way to Modesto, California, before the current I5, now take old 99 quite often between Portland and Salem, also like 99W.
The Comments on names is a interesting fact, Most names are from place's or Occupations,but many have meanings also, my first name "Glen", means of the Earth.

Glen Jones Portland

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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 23 09:07:22 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:07:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Old business -- OT Highways
In-Reply-To: <CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B1E52@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
References: <19884.2aee1383.38b46e9c@aol.com>	<1761100096.7425201266936891638.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B1E52@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
Message-ID: <4B840B4A.7090909@earthlink.net>

>
> I remember Old Hwy 99E all the way to Modesto, ...


Have recently been on 99 in north central CA, and found it a refreshing 
alternative to I-5, as all the traffic is on the freeway, and the olive 
& fruit stands aren't.

Bill Strickland
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb 23 09:15:55 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:15:55 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Old business -- OT Highways
References: <19884.2aee1383.38b46e9c@aol.com>	<1761100096.7425201266936891638.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><CA1AE2E0E90B4F45A56C2A698F6978D3087B1E52@CCC-EXCHVIRTUAL.adminccc.coastline.adx>
	<4B840B4A.7090909@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <A91E151FE3D240978654D65D6CD5CCF4@AroundHome>

I really like the old roads, how ever out here we dont have a main hwy <G>
I have to start getting out and about to see the sites.
   Still like to see Wagontire and Burns and the sunstone place.
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris & Bill Strickland 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Old business -- OT Highways


    I remember Old Hwy 99E all the way to Modesto, ...

  Have recently been on 99 in north central CA, and found it a refreshing alternative to I-5, as all the traffic is on the freeway, and the olive & fruit stands aren't.

  Bill Strickland



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From CARROLLOUC at aol.com  Tue Feb 23 11:43:50 2010
From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com (CARROLLOUC at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:43:50 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
Message-ID: <11429.369b4f03.38b589f6@aol.com>

Hi Dan
 
 
Well, not surprised that Nathaniel was not in the book  but also 
disappointed. I have searched for him, along with my sister since 1972  and haven't 
found his parentage. Too many Cooper lines in upstate NY and too  many 
different spellings. Thanks so much for looking.
Carroll Cooper Summers

The book has several pictures, 2 at lease of James and one  of his wife.
No mention of Nathaniel. 
I found the book today.
Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _CARROLLOUC at aol.com_ (mailto:CARROLLOUC at aol.com)  
To: _or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ 
(mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)   
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:14  PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney  DLC Plok CO


Is this the book that you mentioned having James  Fenimore Cooper in it? I 
was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather  Nathaniel Pada Cooper from 
upstate NY.
Carroll Cooper Summers
_Carrollouc at aol.com_ (mailto:Carrollouc at aol.com)  



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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Tue Feb 23 19:33:17 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:33:17 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
References: <11429.369b4f03.38b589f6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <777B44888B224657B1A1CA2032772C6B@AroundHome>

Started snowing about 2 pm, them got real chilly so I been in the house playing with a few things on the pc.
   Trying ti get me FTM filled out and then tryied a gen report with the Rogers and it said its damaged, and shuts down, I run the report on each person in it and they all work till I try Rogers...got to be a reason.

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From whizinc at comcast.net  Tue Feb 23 21:10:33 2010
From: whizinc at comcast.net (Steve & Ronda Howard)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:10:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
In-Reply-To: <36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>,
	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>,
	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>,
	<4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net>,
	<DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome>,
	<9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward>
	<36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <800636A207DB4EECA5BA0694B2D8695D@HP>

Hi Walt,
What is the book about?
Thanks,
Ronda

  _____  

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
To: or-roots mail list

The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt.
grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.
 
Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".
 
Walt 
 
PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send
online.  
 
 
 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Feb 24 08:36:02 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:36:02 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>,
	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>,
	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>,
	<4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net>,
	<DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome>,
	<9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward><36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>
	<800636A207DB4EECA5BA0694B2D8695D@HP>
Message-ID: <B214F4D3911C4D1D90C87B6F875EF010@AroundHome>

Gee I can answer that.
Its one of the most wonderful personal accounts of the past.
Its a well worth read and well worth what Walt asks for a copy.
   I wish many surnames had the same things.
It gives a story of the past you can vision it as you read.
Mainly all true, that's the nice thing.
Dan 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  Hi Walt,
  What is the book about?
  Thanks,
  Ronda



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  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
  To: or-roots mail list

  The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

  Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

  Walt 

  PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  





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From sallyya at frontiernet.net  Wed Feb 24 12:13:48 2010
From: sallyya at frontiernet.net (Sally)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:13:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the eye of the setting sun
In-Reply-To: <mailman.82.1267041630.14057.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.o r.us>
References: <mailman.82.1267041630.14057.or-roots@listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20100224121146.019f4688@frontiernet.net>


>It is a wonderful book well written and ejoyable to read. I have 
>passed the one I have around to all my friends and they all loved the book.

Sally in southern oregon


>Hi Walt,
>What is the book about?
>Thanks,
>Ronda
>
>Gee I can answer that.
>Its one of the most wonderful personal accounts of the past.
>Its a well worth read and well worth what Walt asks for a copy.
>    I wish many surnames had the same things.
>It gives a story of the past you can vision it as you read.
>Mainly all true, that's the nice thing.
>Dan




From kat1928 at integrity.com  Wed Feb 24 13:15:56 2010
From: kat1928 at integrity.com (kat1928 at integrity.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:15:56 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
In-Reply-To: <800636A207DB4EECA5BA0694B2D8695D@HP>
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>,
	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>,
	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>,
	<4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net>,
	<DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome>,
	<9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward>
	<36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>
	<800636A207DB4EECA5BA0694B2D8695D@HP>
Message-ID: <3324dfaad061ef4eaac74af247ffc429.squirrel@wm.integrity.com>

> Hi Walt,
> What is the book about?
> Thanks,
> Ronda
>
>   _____
>
> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
> daviesw739
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
> To: or-roots mail list
>
> The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my
> gt.gt.gt.
> grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.
>
> Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the
> "E".
>
> Walt
>
> PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I
> send
> online.



Walt;

How much are you charging for a copy of "Into The Eyes Of The Setting Sun'?

Throughout the past years, I have read your postings from it and I would
like a copy.


Sincerely,

Dorothy Webb
kat1928 at integrity.com
>
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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 15:53:18 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:53:18 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] coopers
Message-ID: <6BE75F13D6714DD7B9DB4CEF59CE133B@OwnerPC>

Though you migh like this copy of book 

Daniel Jackson Cooper and Arvazena Spillman Cooper 1977
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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 16:12:54 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:12:54 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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he was not. 
 iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
  Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  Hi Walt,
  What is the book about?
  Thanks,
  Ronda



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  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
  To: or-roots mail list

  The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

  Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

  Walt 

  PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  





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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 16:14:14 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:14:14 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
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References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC><82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward><65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net><4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net>
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nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt
>
> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously
> called Matheny Ferry.
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the
> admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
> them.
> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is
> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
> hand.
>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in
> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
> old
> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
> most
> places eg Champoeg.
>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the
> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
> into
> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any
> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
> history
> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own
> history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
> wonder
> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak.
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
> "Irian".
>
> Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
> thought might be of interest to some:
>
>
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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 16:35:35 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:35:35 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
In-Reply-To: <F0409DBABAE0486484833036F3C3FD3B@AroundHome>
References: <15db9.588d92cc.38a497ef@aol.com>
	<F0409DBABAE0486484833036F3C3FD3B@AroundHome>
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DAN DID YOU GET XOPIWA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DanM. 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  The book has several pictures, 2 at lease of James and one of his wife.
  No mention of Nathaniel. 
  I found the book today.
  Dan
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
    To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:14 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


    Is this the book that you mentioned having James Fenimore Cooper in it? I was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather Nathaniel Pada Cooper from upstate NY.
    Carroll Cooper Summers
    Carrollouc at aol.com 


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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Thu Feb 25 16:49:26 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:49:26 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC><82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward><65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net><4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net><DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome><9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward>
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Are you saying I haven't ridden across the river on the Wheatland Ferry?

Sue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt
>
> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously
> called Matheny Ferry.
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the
> admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for
> them.
> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is
> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off
> hand.
>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in
> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those
> old
> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in
> most
> places eg Champoeg.
>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the
> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book
> into
> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any
> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of
> history
> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own
> history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always
> wonder
> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak.
> Dan M
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
> "Irian".
>
> Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
> thought might be of interest to some:
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 17:17:16 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:17:16 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
In-Reply-To: <A314EE9D5DD94D03B9E60F79ADF7164A@suesteward>
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC><82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward><65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net><4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net><DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome><9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward><EC7A7EE657A3405AB7DA863AD71F14F4@OwnerPC>
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No I am say Matneys were not the first owneers.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


> Are you saying I haven't ridden across the river on the Wheatland Ferry?
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt
>>
>> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously
>> called Matheny Ferry.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>
>>
>> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the
>> admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for
>> them.
>> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is
>> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off
>> hand.
>>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in
>> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those
>> old
>> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in
>> most
>> places eg Champoeg.
>>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the
>> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book
>> into
>> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any
>> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of
>> history
>> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own
>> history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always
>> wonder
>> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak.
>> Dan M
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
>> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>
>>
>> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
>> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
>> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
>> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
>> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
>> "Irian".
>>
>> Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
>> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
>> thought might be of interest to some:
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> or-roots mailing list
>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Thu Feb 25 17:21:52 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:21:52 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC><82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward><65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net><4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net><DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome><9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward><EC7A7EE657A3405AB7DA863AD71F14F4@OwnerPC><A314EE9D5DD94D03B9E60F79ADF7164A@suesteward>
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Walt said that he was "one of the first owners of the Ferry", I don't 
believe he waid he was THE FIRST.

Sue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: daviesw739
To: or-roots mail list
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. 
grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


No I am say Matneys were not the first owneers.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


> Are you saying I haven't ridden across the river on the Wheatland Ferry?
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt
>>
>> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously
>> called Matheny Ferry.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>
>>
>> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the
>> admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for
>> them.
>> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is
>> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off
>> hand.
>>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in
>> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those
>> old
>> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in
>> most
>> places eg Champoeg.
>>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the
>> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book
>> into
>> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any
>> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of
>> history
>> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own
>> history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always
>> wonder
>> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak.
>> Dan M
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
>> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>
>>
>> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
>> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
>> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
>> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
>> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
>> "Irian".
>>
>> Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
>> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
>> thought might be of interest to some:
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:32:09 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:37:54 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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yes
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paulette 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
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    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


    he was not. 
     iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
    HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
      To: 'or-roots mail list' 
      Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
      Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


      Hi Walt,
      What is the book about?
      Thanks,
      Ronda



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      The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

      Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

      Walt 

      PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  





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From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:41:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
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It has been a conflict since the begining with Leabo's.  The original land 
grand and owners of the property.  Leabo's
and there children.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


> Walt said that he was "one of the first owners of the Ferry", I don't
> believe he waid he was THE FIRST.
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: daviesw739
> To: or-roots mail list
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my 
> gt.gt.gt.
> grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
> No I am say Matneys were not the first owneers.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>
>
>> Are you saying I haven't ridden across the river on the Wheatland Ferry?
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marsha Bradley-Luthy" <pmml at meritel.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>
>>
>> nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>
>>
>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt
>>>
>>> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously
>>> called Matheny Ferry.
>>>
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>>
>>>
>>> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the
>>> admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for
>>> them.
>>> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name 
>>> is
>>> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off
>>> hand.
>>>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels 
>>> in
>>> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those
>>> old
>>> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in
>>> most
>>> places eg Champoeg.
>>>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the
>>> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book
>>> into
>>> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any
>>> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of
>>> history
>>> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own
>>> history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always
>>> wonder
>>> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak.
>>> Dan M
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM
>>> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
>>>
>>>
>>> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one
>>> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to
>>> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram
>>> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine
>>> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as
>>> "Irian".
>>>
>>> Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name
>>> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I
>>> thought might be of interest to some:
>>>
>>>
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From daviesw739 at aol.com  Thu Feb 25 17:48:22 2010
From: daviesw739 at aol.com (daviesw739)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:48:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
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YES  .YES
It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
Walt Davies


In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
> 
> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
> called Matheny Ferry. 
> 
> Sue 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
> admin for the one on rootsweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
> them. 
> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
> hand. 
>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
> old 
> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
> most 
> places eg Champoeg. 
>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
> into 
> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
> history 
> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
> history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
> wonder 
> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
> Dan M 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
> "Irian". 
> 
> Anyway, of the former, less related one, I found the Matheny name 
> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
> thought might be of interest to some: 
> 
> 
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb 25 17:52:39 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:52:39 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leobo became Hall Ferry
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Matheny and Leabo Ferries 2 different ferries.     Nancy

The first recorded ferry in Oregon was on the Willamette River near present-day Wheatland.[1] This ferry was built during 1843-1844 and operated by Jesse Applegate when he occupied the former Methodist Mission at Mission Bottom. Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location.[1]
The Michel Laframboise Ferry operated on the Willamette running between Champoeg on the south bank and the north bank of the river.[2] The ferry operated from 1850 to 1857.[2]

Boones Ferry was operated starting in 1847 by Alphonso Boone, the grandson of Daniel Boone. This ferry remained in operation near Wilsonville until 1954, when a bridge was built over the Willamette near the site.[3]

Historic ferries in Oregon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location. .... Historic photos of Oregon ferries from the Oregon Department of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon - Cached - Similar
Polk and Marion counties
Discontinued ferries in Polk and Marion County include the Claggett at Independence, which ran until 1950.[4] Hales Ferry, near Jefferson, operated as early as 1846, and another Jefferson ferry was run by Jacob Conser in 1848.[1] Doaks Ferry operated six miles (10 km) north of Salem. It was established in the 1840s by Andrew Jackson Doak, and sold in 1860 to Jesse Walling, who platted Lincoln, Oregon.[1] Doaks Ferry Road is named for it. Spongs Ferry operated at Spong's Landing, now a Marion County park, on the opposite side of the river from Doaks.[5] Halls Ferry operated beginning in 1868 about six miles (10 km) south of Salem, and Halls Ferry Road still exists today.[6] The ferry was started by Isaac (or Noah) Leabo, who sold to it Benjamin Franklin (B. F.) Hall in either 1882 or 1884, when it became known as Halls Ferry.[6] B. F. Hall's father, Reason B. Hall, was the founder of the Buena Vista Ferry in 1852, which still operates to this day. Halls Ferry changed hands twice and was subsequently renamed, first to "Croisan's Ferry" and later to "Pettyjohn's Ferry".[6] It is uncertain when the ferry ceased operations. There was also a "Halls Ferry" railroad station at this locale.[6]



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  he was not. 
   iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
  HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
    To: 'or-roots mail list' 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
    Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


    Hi Walt,
    What is the book about?
    Thanks,
    Ronda



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    From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
    Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
    To: or-roots mail list

    The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

    Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

    Walt 

    PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  





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From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com  Thu Feb 25 17:55:45 2010
From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:55:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb 25 18:05:12 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:05:12 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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Marsha - 

Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

Thanks Nancy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
  To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  yes
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paulette 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


    Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
      Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


      he was not. 
       iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
      HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
        To: 'or-roots mail list' 
        Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
        Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


        Hi Walt,
        What is the book about?
        Thanks,
        Ronda



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        From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
        Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
        To: or-roots mail list

        The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

        Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

        Walt 

        PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  





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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 18:12:56 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:12:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
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Would you like me to E mail copy of documents 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


  YES  .YES
  It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
  Walt Davies


  In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
    nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
    To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
    Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


    > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
    > 
    > We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
    > called Matheny Ferry. 
    > 
    > Sue 
    > 
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
    > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
    > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
    > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
    > 
    > 
    > Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
    > admin for the one on root sweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
    > them. 
    > I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
    > French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
    > hand. 
    >   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
    > same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
    > old 
    > days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
    > most 
    > places eg Champoeg. 
    >   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
    > Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
    > into 
    > the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
    > Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
    > history 
    > for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
    &g t; history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
    > wonder 
    > how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
    > Dan M 
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
    > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
    > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
    > Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
    > 
    > 
    > In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
    > in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
    > numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
    > Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
    > County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
    > "Irian". 
    > 
    > Anyway, of the former, less related one , I found the Matheny name 
    > popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
    > thought might be of interest to some: 
    > 
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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 18:13:45 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:13:45 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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yes
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  Marsha - 

  Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
  McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

  Thanks Nancy
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


    yes
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Paulette 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


      Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
        Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
        To: or-roots mail list 
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


        he was not. 
         iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
        HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
          To: 'or-roots mail list' 
          Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
          Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


          Hi Walt,
          What is the book about?
          Thanks,
          Ronda



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          From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
          Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
          To: or-roots mail list

          The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

          Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

          Walt 

          PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 18:22:50 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:22:50 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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Isiac jasper Leabo married Ruth McCubin
Isiac Leabo ...............Isiac Jaspers leabo father his mother Mary Polly Lewis were boone co. Kentucky
I also have long history of Leabo line if you would like it. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  Marsha - 

  Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
  McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

  Thanks Nancy
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


    yes
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Paulette 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


      Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
        Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
        To: or-roots mail list 
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


        he was not. 
         iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
        HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
          To: 'or-roots mail list' 
          Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
          Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


          Hi Walt,
          What is the book about?
          Thanks,
          Ronda



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          From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
          Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
          To: or-roots mail list

          The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

          Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

          Walt 

          PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 18:25:02 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:25:02 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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The book I have does have 
Daniel Jackson Cooper and Arvazena Spillman Cooper of their arrival 
This is my family line 
The book I have list his father and mother and his brothers and sisters. Elder EE Cooper and Nancy Cooper
Elbert Esmerson Cooper , boorn march 28,1912 in Wayne County, Kentucky His father's name was Henry Cooper a baptist minister and son of Frederick Cooper who enlisted in the Revolutionary forces under Captain Lart, at York, Pennsylvania in 1777, at the age of seventeen. (picture) Elberts mothers maiden name was Patients Back.  His father died of the age of seventeen and left him as the oldest son or weven and led his 

I am sorry but I have scanned these pages and happy to send them but this wont accept scan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DanM. 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  The book has several pictures, 2 at lease of James and one of his wife.
  No mention of Nathaniel. 
  I found the book today.
  Dan
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
    To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:14 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


    Is this the book that you mentioned having James Fenimore Cooper in it? I was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather Nathaniel Pada Cooper from upstate NY.
    Carroll Cooper Summers
    Carrollouc at aol.com 


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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb 25 18:27:37 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:27:37 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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Marsha - 

Pleaseee share with me.. I would love to know the connection as I have always thought the Claiborne County, TN McCubbins & mine were related just can't prove..

Thanks, Nancy
nancydean at columbia-center.org
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  yes
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nancy Lee Adams 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


    Marsha - 

    Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
    McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

    Thanks Nancy
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
      To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


      yes
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Paulette 
        To: or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


        Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



          -----Original Message----- 
          From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
          Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
          To: or-roots mail list 
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


          he was not. 
           iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
          HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
            To: 'or-roots mail list' 
            Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
            Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


            Hi Walt,
            What is the book about?
            Thanks,
            Ronda



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            From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
            Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
            To: or-roots mail list

            The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

            Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

            Walt 

            PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com  Thu Feb 25 18:39:26 2010
From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:26 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
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From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:39:54 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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In Tennesse were the Leabo's and Jennings associated with George Washington and Laffayete.  Sarah Jennings and Francios Isiach Leabas Married.  Moved to Illinoise. and from there you can find in monroe Co. The proof you 
need.  Then Noah and 3 of his brothers moved off to Oregon 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  Marsha - 

  Pleaseee share with me.. I would love to know the connection as I have always thought the Claiborne County, TN McCubbins & mine were related just can't prove..

  Thanks, Nancy
  nancydean at columbia-center.org
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:13 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


    yes
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Nancy Lee Adams 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


      Marsha - 

      Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
      McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

      Thanks Nancy
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
        To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


        yes
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Paulette 
          To: or-roots mail list 
          Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


          Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



            -----Original Message----- 
            From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
            Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
            To: or-roots mail list 
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


            he was not. 
             iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
            HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
              To: 'or-roots mail list' 
              Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
              Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


              Hi Walt,
              What is the book about?
              Thanks,
              Ronda



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              From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
              Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
              To: or-roots mail list

              The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

              Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

              Walt 

              PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 25 18:48:51 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:48:51 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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I almost got a cold.
Huh ?
whuts dat?
Dan
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  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  DAN DID YOU GET XOPIWA
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: DanM. 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 11:37 AM
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    The book has several pictures, 2 at lease of James and one of his wife.
    No mention of Nathaniel. 
    I found the book today.
    Dan 
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:50:51 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:50:36 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)
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I think it was Matheny that was mentioned.
Dan Matney
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


> No I am say Matneys were not the first owneers.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)
> 
> 
>> Are you saying I haven't ridden across the river on the Wheatland Ferry?
>>
>> Sue
>> 


From pmml at meritel.net  Thu Feb 25 18:51:22 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:51:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO
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Daniel Jackson Cooper born August 23, 1836 in Bradley Co Tennessess living with his parent until he was of age.  went to California in 1857,cross the plains as a cattle driver, to the Frazer River gold mines in 1859, returning to Missouri by the way of California and the Iswthmus in 1861.  He enlisted in Co C., 14th S.M. Cav. Vol. April 3 1862 but was left off the roll in the reorganization of the Company for the reason that he was in the hospital ill with typhoid fever.  The original roll was lost at the battle of Neosho.  He reenlisted in the 76th Regiment, E.M.M., where he served as a Q.M Sergeant until he started to Oregon April 7, 1863.  He was married May 9,186`m ri Arvazena Angeline Spillman born April 13, 1845.  To them wer born 15 children.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


  Hi Dan

  Well, not surprised that Nathaniel was not in the book but also disappointed. I have searched for him, along with my sister since 1972 and haven't found his parentage. Too many Cooper lines in upstate NY and too many different spellings. Thanks so much for looking.
  Carroll Cooper Summers
    The book has several pictures, 2 at lease of James and one of his wife.
    No mention of Nathaniel. 
    I found the book today.
    Dan
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: CARROLLOUC at aol.com 
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      Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:14 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper Matney DLC Plok CO


      Is this the book that you mentioned having James Fenimore Cooper in it? I was interestedin finding my gr gr grandfather Nathaniel Pada Cooper from upstate NY.
      Carroll Cooper Summers
      Carrollouc at aol.com 


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From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:53:27 -0800
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Are you related to the Moore's in the Gribble cemetery ? Also related to Leabo's 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paulette 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  Hello, did your Mary Polly Lewis marry Samuel Martin Moore by any chance?



  And I have that Isham Leabo (b. Feb. 28, 1808 TN) married Sarah Ann Moore, daughter of David Moore and Margaret "Polly" Sherman, in Claiborne Co., TN. Can you tell me please who Isham's parents were? 



  (I descend from David's son Squire Moore and Rebecca Capps).



  Thanks,



  Paulette




    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    Sent: Feb 25, 2010 6:22 PM 
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    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins 

    ? 
    Isiac jasper Leabo married Ruth McCubin
    Isiac Leabo ...............Isiac Jaspers leabo father his mother Mary Polly Lewis were boone co. Kentucky
    I also have long history of Leabo line if you would like it. 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Nancy Lee Adams 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


      Marsha - 

      Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
      McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

      Thanks Nancy
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
        To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


        yes
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Paulette 
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          Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


          Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



            -----Original Message----- 
            From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
            Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
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            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


            he was not. 
             iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
            HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
              To: 'or-roots mail list' 
              Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
              Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


              Hi Walt,
              What is the book about?
              Thanks,
              Ronda



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              The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

              Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

              Walt 

              PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:01:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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Doc #10

BIRTH:

TELEPHONE:

!MARRIAGE: WM. MARTIN LEWIS  b. 12 Nov. 1797 NC   -  d. 7 March 1881OREGON

1997      married on 4 July 1815, in Clay County, KY (since 1820 Perry Co)
HANNAH  SNEATHEN  b.18 Dec.1797 KY   -   d. 18 Nov.  1886 SALEM, OREGONThe
Lewis family eventually Settled near Junction City, Oregon - East ofSalem,
Oregon. Their first Kentucky original home was a one bed room cabin  on
property of his father James Lewis II and Sarah Couch Lewis in presentday
Breathitt County. In those years the land was first Clay Co until 1820,then
Perry County until 1839 when it became present day Breathitt County,Kentucky.
  A County of many criminals and rebels who randomly killed. Children of
Wm.Martin Lewis & Hannah Sneathen were all born in Kentucky.  Thefollowing *
Children are recorded :

*1. John Lewis     b. 30 April, 1816 KY md. Polly _____? b.19 June 1835,
born of parents in Boone Co., Indiana
*2. Ezekiel Lewis   b. 2 July 1818 KY md.
*3. Mary Lewis      b. 3 Oct. 1820 KY md.  21 July 1836, to Isaac Leabo,
b.1815, Monroe Co, Indiana
 Mary died with 12 children descents, at age 81, on  10 Sept.1901, atToledo,
Oregon.
 Mary & Isaac were married by Rev.B.Beamer, in Boone Co.,Indiana. Shewent to
Platte Co, MO and left first for Oregon.
 Mary & Isaac arrived Oregon in October 1846 and settled a land claim on15
Dec. 1846 in Oregon, in Williamette Valley.
 Mary made the trip (4)years ahead of her parents Wm.Martin Lewis &Hannah.
 Her known children recorded are :
a.)  William P.E. Leabo   b. 25 Aug 1837 MO- -died 23 Aug.1838 MO age 1in
Platt Co.,MO ( now Kansas City
b.)  Noah John Leabo     b.25 Dec.1838 MO  md #1  on 19 Apr,1857, MissAmanda
Snider of Oregon          md.#2  on 25 March 1873,  Miss Josephine Snook

  Children by Josephine :
 1.)  Emma Leabo     md  Mr. ?   Letson  (Eugene, Oregon)  2.)  Benjamine
(ben) Leabo    md
   Ben lived Oregon City, Oregon   &  he died 25 March 1873 in OregonCity.
 c.)  Hannah Margaret Leabo b. 17 July 1841 in Atchison Co., Missouri,before
the family trip to Oregon was completed.
 Hannah      md. 13 Nov. 1858 to Charles F. Phar, of Polk Co.,Oregon.
 Hannah Margaret Leabo-Phar, died at age 73, on  31 July 1914, Gilbert,Idaho
and buried now  in "Russell Ridge
             Cemetery", at Gilbert, Idaho.
 d.)  John J. Leabo  b. 8 April 1843 - d. 1885 OR md.  Mary Long  b.16Feb.
1855, married 21 Feb. 1871 at age 16
 e.)  Isaac J. Leabo  b.  5 May 1845 OR  md.#1   5 March 1871 to  Ruth
McCubbins
       md #2  18 June 1880   to  Nancy Putnam
       md.#3   Miriam Wooley.
 f.)  Unicy Catherine Leabo,  b.27 Jan.1848 OR md.#1 on 28 Jan.1864    to
William Marcus,  b. Sept.1832
       md #2 on 1 May 1878    to  Elias Wiser
 g.)  Walter Jesse Leabo,  b. 16 June 1850 OR--d. 14 July 1863  age 13
(unknown cause, to researcher)
 h.)  Mary E. Leabo,   b. 11 July 1852 OR--d. 23 Jan. 1862  age 10(unknown
cause, to researcher)
 i. )  Emily Phoebe Leabo, b. 22 Feb. 1854 OR--d.   3 Dec. 1939
Portland,Oregon, at age 85
  Emily Phoebe Leabo   md.  Charles Thayer    s/o Fred Thayer
 j. )  Joseph Elias Leabo,   b. 27 June 1855 OR md. ?
 k.)  Sarah Elizabeth Leabo,  b. 7 March 1859 OR   md. 21 July 1878 toJohn
McClusky at Toledo, Oregon
   Sarah died at age 78, on  22 Dec. 1937, at Toledo, Oregon
 L.)  Thomas Meritt Leabo,  b. 4 April 1862 md. 27 Nov. 1881 to EllaKundret,
      d/o Fred Kundret (born Switzerland) & Mary Ann Dick of OhioThomas
died at age 76,  on 28 Feb.1938,  at Portland,Oregon.    His (3) Childrenare:
  1.)  Archie Leabo  2.)  Perl Leabo            3.)  Karl Leabo*4.  James
Peelstraw Lewis  b. 13 April 1822 KY md.  ?      *James P Lewis is awitness
on many Oregon deeds.
*5 . Phoebe Lewis   b. 20 March 1824 KY md.  a Vincent, , Phoebe & helived in
1849 in Lakeview, Oregon
*6.  Sarah Lewis    b. 11 April 1826 KY  md  Felix Garred  b. 1824 Benton
Co.,VA
 Sarah married on 11 Feb. 1844 ,Platte Co.,MO, before the trip to Oregonby
her Lewis family.& she and Felix arrived   later on 21 Sept 1853 in the
precious Williamette Valley of  "The Territory of Oregon". (*was not aState )
*7. Margaret Lewis   b. 18 March 1828 KY   md  1/2 cous., Matthais Lewis
b.1829 KY (cousin)   s/o Joseph Lewis 1784 NC
 Margaret & Matthais married on 10 April 1844, in Platte Co., Missouri 6years
before trip to Oregon by her parents.
*8. Elizabeth Lewis   b. 2 Jan.1830 KY  md  Tarlton Taylor , married inApril
1848, at Putnam Co., Missouri
 Tarlton arrived in Oregon in 1851 before Dec 1852 to obtain good landvacated
by "Oliver Scott" a early pioneer.
*9. Susannah Lewis   b. 16 July 1832 KY  md  Thomas Starns *10. JesseBowling
Lewis  b. 5 Sept.1834 KY     md  Sarah E.Bounds,  on 27 July 1856, in"the
Oregon Territory".
  a.) Jack Lewis    md.  ??
   (1a.) Lillian Lewis   md.  a Mr.  Cutsforth
  b.) Lillie Lewis     md.
*11.  Nancy D. Lewis   b. 2 July 1836 KY-- d. 1872   md  a  Mr.Henderson
Nancy died at age 36, early in life.
*12.  Martin  Lewis  b. 20 March 1838 KY md          Martin was 13 yrsold
when arrived in Oregon 1851.
*13. Daniel Lewis   b. October 1840 KY md      Daniel the baby was 11 yrsold
when arrived Oregon 1851.

 Burial sites and death records are not available for many of the above
children by family or Official documents of Oregon.
(Wm.Martin Lewis.doc)  SEE  KINGS  OF  SHELTERED MEADOWS -ROOTS TREEby
John P. Sullivan, a descent.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paulette 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  Hello, did your Mary Polly Lewis marry Samuel Martin Moore by any chance?



  And I have that Isham Leabo (b. Feb. 28, 1808 TN) married Sarah Ann Moore, daughter of David Moore and Margaret "Polly" Sherman, in Claiborne Co., TN. Can you tell me please who Isham's parents were? 



  (I descend from David's son Squire Moore and Rebecca Capps).



  Thanks,



  Paulette




    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    Sent: Feb 25, 2010 6:22 PM 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins 

    ? 
    Isiac jasper Leabo married Ruth McCubin
    Isiac Leabo ...............Isiac Jaspers leabo father his mother Mary Polly Lewis were boone co. Kentucky
    I also have long history of Leabo line if you would like it. 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Nancy Lee Adams 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


      Marsha - 

      Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
      McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

      Thanks Nancy
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
        To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


        yes
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Paulette 
          To: or-roots mail list 
          Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


          Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



            -----Original Message----- 
            From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
            Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
            To: or-roots mail list 
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


            he was not. 
             iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
            HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
              To: 'or-roots mail list' 
              Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
              Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


              Hi Walt,
              What is the book about?
              Thanks,
              Ronda



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              The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

              Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

              Walt 

              PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:01:36 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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Marry Polly Lewis who remarried Isiac Lewis?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paulette 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  Hello, did your Mary Polly Lewis marry Samuel Martin Moore by any chance?



  And I have that Isham Leabo (b. Feb. 28, 1808 TN) married Sarah Ann Moore, daughter of David Moore and Margaret "Polly" Sherman, in Claiborne Co., TN. Can you tell me please who Isham's parents were? 



  (I descend from David's son Squire Moore and Rebecca Capps).



  Thanks,



  Paulette




    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    Sent: Feb 25, 2010 6:22 PM 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins 

    ? 
    Isiac jasper Leabo married Ruth McCubin
    Isiac Leabo ...............Isiac Jaspers leabo father his mother Mary Polly Lewis were boone co. Kentucky
    I also have long history of Leabo line if you would like it. 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Nancy Lee Adams 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


      Marsha - 

      Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
      McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

      Thanks Nancy
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
        To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


        yes
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Paulette 
          To: or-roots mail list 
          Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


          Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



            -----Original Message----- 
            From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
            Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
            To: or-roots mail list 
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


            he was not. 
             iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
            HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
              To: 'or-roots mail list' 
              Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
              Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


              Hi Walt,
              What is the book about?
              Thanks,
              Ronda



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              To: or-roots mail list

              The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

              Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

              Walt 

              PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:32:22 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny &  Leabo Ferries
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I'm resending this post not sure if it went though before? Sorry if you got it twice.. Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries?     Nancy

The first recorded ferry in Oregon was on the Willamette River near present-day Wheatland.[1] This ferry was built during 1843-1844 and operated by Jesse Applegate when he occupied the former Methodist Mission at Mission Bottom. Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location.[1]
The Michel Laframboise Ferry operated on the Willamette running between Champoeg on the south bank and the north bank of the river.[2] The ferry operated from 1850 to 1857.[2]

Boones Ferry was operated starting in 1847 by Alphonso Boone, the grandson of Daniel Boone. This ferry remained in operation near Wilsonville until 1954, when a bridge was built over the Willamette near the site.[3]

Historic ferries in Oregon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location. .... Historic photos of Oregon ferries from the Oregon Department of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon - Cached - Similar
Polk and Marion counties
Discontinued ferries in Polk and Marion County include the Claggett at Independence, which ran until 1950.[4] Hales Ferry, near Jefferson, operated as early as 1846, and another Jefferson ferry was run by Jacob Conser in 1848.[1] Doaks Ferry operated six miles (10 km) north of Salem. It was established in the 1840s by Andrew Jackson Doak, and sold in 1860 to Jesse Walling, who platted Lincoln, Oregon.[1] Doaks Ferry Road is named for it. Spongs Ferry operated at Spong's Landing, now a Marion County park, on the opposite side of the river from Doaks.[5] Halls Ferry operated beginning in 1868 about six miles (10 km) south of Salem, and Halls Ferry Road still exists today.[6] The ferry was started by Isaac (or Noah) Leabo, who sold to it Benjamin Franklin (B. F.) Hall in either 1882 or 1884, when it became known as Halls Ferry.[6] B. F. Hall's father, Reason B. Hall, was the founder of the Buena Vista Ferry in 1852, which still operates to this day. Halls Ferry changed hands twice and was subsequently renamed, first to "Croisan's Ferry" and later to "Pettyjohn's Ferry".[6] It is uncertain when the ferry ceased operations. There was also a "Halls Ferry" railroad station at this locale.[6]

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  he was not. 
   iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
  HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
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From barbhg1221 at comcast.net  Thu Feb 25 20:35:40 2010
From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:35:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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>From the Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol. 48, p. 345 [1947 - I believe]: 



"A new six car electrically-propelled ferry boat, Daniel Matheny III, went into service at the Wheatland ferry crossing of the Willamette River, on June 11.? Daniel Matheny, pioneer of 1843, purchased James O'Neal's (sic) land claim in 1844, and soon thereafter established regular ferry service.? Lindsay Applegate assisted him in constructing the first ferry boat, using 'bushel or two of literature he found in the old house' recently abandoned by the Jason Lee missionary workers at Mission Bottom. 



On Jan. 1853, the territorial legislature authorized a public road from Salem to Dayton, crossing the river at Matheny's ferry.? For more than ninety years the service was privately owned and operated and became a public ferry less than ten years ago." 



Note:? James O'Neil is my children's 4th great-grandfather. 



Barbara Herring 


----- Original Message ----- 
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YES? .YES 
It was call Mathena's? or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.? Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844. 
Walt Davies 


In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes: 


nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
> 
> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
> called Matheny Ferry. 
> 
> Sue 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
> admin for the one on root sweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
> them. 
> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
> hand. 
> ? I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
> old 
> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
> most 
> places eg Champoeg. 
> ? Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
> into 
> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
> history 
> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
&g t; history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
> wonder 
> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
> Dan M 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
> "Irian". 
> 
> Anyway, of the former, less related one , I found the Matheny name 
> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
> thought might be of interest to some: 
> 
> 
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From daviesw739 at aol.com  Thu Feb 25 21:19:59 2010
From: daviesw739 at aol.com (daviesw739)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:19:59 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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This is from Aunt Charlotte's book she was Daniel Matheny's youngest daughter. Charlotte grew up at the ferry arriving there in the spring of 1844.  In 1850 when the DLC was authorized by congress Daniel Matheny  filed for his DLC on the property, 640 acres. I am amazed at all the untrue stories of the early days of Oregon.
My gt.gt grandfather Henry Hewitt who married Elizabeth Matheny (the eldest daughter in 1841 in MO.) told my gt. aunt Bertha that Applegate was the biggest liar that ever walked the face of the earth. The elder Applegate.
Walt


>From her book 


 When we moved to the Mission Farm at the place that is called Wheatland, we were very comfortable. It was a big hewed log house with good sawed floors and was well finished with cedar lumber that the missionaries had shipped around cape horn. It had two brick fireplaces and plenty of bedrooms. There were barns and granaries, and about forty acres of land had been fenced and cultivated.

  The missionaries had built a ferry and we bought it with the place. It became a source of revenue to us after the country had become more thickly populated, but that meant very little to us. for it was not till five or six years later that there was anything in the country to buy. It was not until the gold discovery in California that things became easier for the people in our country. We had a good house, but our troubles were by no means over. we were ragged and we were without house keeping equipment of any kind.

Charlotte Matheny Kirkwood
Into the Eye of the Setting Sun

I hope this helps settles the Ferry dispute but I doubt it.



In a message dated 02/25/10 20:35:49 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
>From the Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol. 48, p. 345 [1947 - I believe]:

"A new six car electrically-propelled ferry boat, Daniel Matheny III, went into service at the Wheatland ferry crossing of the Willamette River, on June 11.  Daniel Matheny, pioneer of 1843, purchased James O'Neal's (sic) land claim in 1844, and soon thereafter established regular ferry service.  Lindsay Applegate assisted him in constructing the first ferry boat, using 'bushel or two of literature he found in the old house' recently abandoned by the Jason Lee missionary workers at Mission Bottom.

On Jan. 1853, the territorial legislature authorized a public road from Salem to Dayton, crossing the river at Matheny's ferry.  For more than ninety years the service was privately owned and operated and became a public ferry less than ten years ago."

Note:  James O'Neil is my children's 4th great-grandfather.

Barbara Herring

----- Original Message -----
From: "daviesw739" <daviesw739 at aol.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48:22 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
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YES  .YES
It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
Walt Davies


In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
> 
> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
> called Matheny Ferry. 
> 
> Sue 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
> admin for the one on root sweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
> them. 
> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
> hand. 
>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
> old 
> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
> most 
> places eg Champoeg. 
>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
> into 
> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
> history 
> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
&g t; history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
> wonder 
> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
> Dan M 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
> "Irian". 
> 
> Anyway, of the former, less related one , I found the Matheny name 
> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
> thought might be of interest to some: 
> 
> 
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From daviesw739 at aol.com  Thu Feb 25 21:22:44 2010
From: daviesw739 at aol.com (daviesw739)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:22:44 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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also this.


Even some of our own people pretended to misunderstand him, but they were probably of a later emigration. My Father admired, respected and was deeply grateful to him.The Methodist Mission at Wheatland was in charge of Jason Lee. When we came the original Mission at Wheatland had been abandoned and the new Mission was established at Salem.We owned and lived in the house that was built for Dr. David Leslie, but most of the houses were across the river. Jason Lee's young wife was buried there.

Walt


In a message dated 02/25/10 20:35:49 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
>From the Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol. 48, p. 345 [1947 - I believe]:

"A new six car electrically-propelled ferry boat, Daniel Matheny III, went into service at the Wheatland ferry crossing of the Willamette River, on June 11.  Daniel Matheny, pioneer of 1843, purchased James O'Neal's (sic) land claim in 1844, and soon thereafter established regular ferry service.  Lindsay Applegate assisted him in constructing the first ferry boat, using 'bushel or two of literature he found in the old house' recently abandoned by the Jason Lee missionary workers at Mission Bottom.

On Jan. 1853, the territorial legislature authorized a public road from Salem to Dayton, crossing the river at Matheny's ferry.  For more than ninety years the service was privately owned and operated and became a public ferry less than ten years ago."

Note:  James O'Neil is my children's 4th great-grandfather.

Barbara Herring

----- Original Message -----
From: "daviesw739" <daviesw739 at aol.com>
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48:22 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)


YES  .YES
It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
Walt Davies


In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
> 
> We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
> called Matheny Ferry. 
> 
> Sue 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
> admin for the one on root sweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
> them. 
> I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
> French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
> hand. 
>   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
> same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
> old 
> days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
> most 
> places eg Champoeg. 
>   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
> Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
> into 
> the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
> Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
> history 
> for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
&g t; history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
> wonder 
> how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
> Dan M 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
> Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
> 
> 
> In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
> in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
> numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
> Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
> County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
> "Irian". 
> 
> Anyway, of the former, less related one , I found the Matheny name 
> popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
> thought might be of interest to some: 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From daviesw739 at aol.com  Thu Feb 25 21:47:33 2010
From: daviesw739 at aol.com (daviesw739)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:47:33 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.
Walt



In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
he was not. 
 iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
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From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


Hi Walt,
What is the book about?
Thanks,
Ronda




From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
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The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

Walt 

PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  






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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb 25 21:55:47 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:55:47 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries
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I'm resending this post not sure if it went though before? Please let me know? 
Sorry if you get it more than once ..  Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries?     Nancy


Historic ferries in Oregon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location. .... Historic photos of Oregon ferries from the Oregon Department of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon - Cached - Similar
The first recorded ferry in Oregon was on the Willamette River near present-day Wheatland.[1] This ferry was built during 1843-1844 and operated by Jesse Applegate when he occupied the former Methodist Mission at Mission Bottom. Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location.[1]
The Michel Laframboise Ferry operated on the Willamette running between Champoeg on the south bank and the north bank of the river.[2] The ferry operated from 1850 to 1857.[2]

Boones Ferry was operated starting in 1847 by Alphonso Boone, the grandson of Daniel Boone. This ferry remained in operation near Wilsonville until 1954, when a bridge was built over the Willamette near the site.[3]


Polk and Marion counties
Discontinued ferries in Polk and Marion County include the Claggett at Independence, which ran until 1950.[4] Hales Ferry, near Jefferson, operated as early as 1846, and another Jefferson ferry was run by Jacob Conser in 1848.[1] Doaks Ferry operated six miles (10 km) north of Salem. It was established in the 1840s by Andrew Jackson Doak, and sold in 1860 to Jesse Walling, who platted Lincoln, Oregon.[1] Doaks Ferry Road is named for it. Spongs Ferry operated at Spong's Landing, now a Marion County park, on the opposite side of the river from Doaks.[5] Halls Ferry operated beginning in 1868 about six miles (10 km) south of Salem, and Halls Ferry Road still exists today.[6] The ferry was started by Isaac (or Noah) Leabo, who sold to it Benjamin Franklin (B. F.) Hall in either 1882 or 1884, when it became known as Halls Ferry.[6] B. F. Hall's father, Reason B. Hall, was the founder of the Buena Vista Ferry in 1852, which still operates to this day. Halls Ferry changed hands twice and was subsequently renamed, first to "Croisan's Ferry" and later to "Pettyjohn's Ferry".[6] It is uncertain when the ferry ceased operations. There was also a "Halls Ferry" railroad station at this locale.[6]

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.
  Walt



  In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
    he was not. 
     iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
    HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb 25 21:59:21 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:59:21 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw:  Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries
Message-ID: <DA10220D78674FE9BA6B084C75AF9197@NancyPC>

I'm resending this post not sure if it went though before keeps bouncing back to me? Please let me know? 
Sorry if you get it more than once, twice or more ..  Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries?     Nancy


Historic ferries in Oregon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location. .... Historic photos of Oregon ferries from the Oregon Department of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon - Cached - Similar
The first recorded ferry in Oregon was on the Willamette River near present-day Wheatland.[1] This ferry was built during 1843-1844 and operated by Jesse Applegate when he occupied the former Methodist Mission at Mission Bottom. Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location.[1]
The Michel Laframboise Ferry operated on the Willamette running between Champoeg on the south bank and the north bank of the river.[2] The ferry operated from 1850 to 1857.[2]

Boones Ferry was operated starting in 1847 by Alphonso Boone, the grandson of Daniel Boone. This ferry remained in operation near Wilsonville until 1954, when a bridge was built over the Willamette near the site.[3]

Polk and Marion counties
Discontinued ferries in Polk and Marion County include the Claggett at Independence, which ran until 1950.[4] Hales Ferry, near Jefferson, operated as early as 1846, and another Jefferson ferry was run by Jacob Conser in 1848.[1] Doaks Ferry operated six miles (10 km) north of Salem. It was established in the 1840s by Andrew Jackson Doak, and sold in 1860 to Jesse Walling, who platted Lincoln, Oregon.[1] Doaks Ferry Road is named for it. Spongs Ferry operated at Spong's Landing, now a Marion County park, on the opposite side of the river from Doaks.[5] Halls Ferry operated beginning in 1868 about six miles (10 km) south of Salem, and Halls Ferry Road still exists today.[6] The ferry was started by Isaac (or Noah) Leabo, who sold to it Benjamin Franklin (B. F.) Hall in either 1882 or 1884, when it became known as Halls Ferry.[6] B. F. Hall's father, Reason B. Hall, was the founder of the Buena Vista Ferry in 1852, which still operates to this day. Halls Ferry changed hands twice and was subsequently renamed, first to "Croisan's Ferry" and later to "Pettyjohn's Ferry".[6] It is uncertain when the ferry ceased operations. There was also a "Halls Ferry" railroad station at this locale.[6]

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.
  Walt



  In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
    he was not. 
     iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
    HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
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From Broad1000 at aol.com  Thu Feb 25 22:06:37 2010
From: Broad1000 at aol.com (Broad1000 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:06:37 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Fw:  Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries
Message-ID: <20e5b.7e638feb.38b8beed@aol.com>

Received it more than once.  All is well. It came through
Joanne Broadhurst
 
 
In a message dated 2/25/2010 7:59:44 P.M. Hawaiian Standard Time,  
nancydean at columbia-center.org writes:

I'm resending this post not sure if it went though  before keeps bouncing 
back to me? Please let me know? 
 
Sorry if you get it more than once, twice or  more ..  Matheny and Leabo 
ferries 2 different  ferries?     Nancy
 
 


_Historic ferries in Oregon - Wikipedia, the free  encyclopedia_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon)   
Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland  Ferry in the 1850s around the 
same location. .... Historic photos of  Oregon ferries from the Oregon 
Department of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon -  _Cached_ (mhtml:{CD7E9
BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://74.125.155.132/se
arch?q=cache:kBlg0lt1pj0J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon+M
atheny+Ferry,+Oregon&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)  - _Similar_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://www.google.com/sea
rch?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&q=related:en.wikip
edia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon+Matheny+Ferry,+Oregon&sa=X&ei=WRaHS
5fvBoWusgPUqp2UBw&ved=0CAoQHzAB) 

The first recorded ferry in Oregon was on the _Willamette River_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Willamette_River)  near present-day _Wheatland_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
/Wheatland,_Oregon) ._[1]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#ci
te_note-Oregon-0)  This ferry was  built during 1843?1844 and operated by 
_Jesse Applegate_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Applegate)  when he occupied the 
former _Methodist Mission_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methodist_Mission)  at 
Mission Bottom. Daniel Matheny  later started the _Wheatland Ferry_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/
wiki/Wheatland_Ferry)  in the 1850s around the same  location._[1]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikiped
ia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-Oregon-0) 
The _Michel Laframboise_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Laframboise)  Ferry 
operated on the Willamette  running between _Champoeg_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ
oeg,_Oregon)  on the south bank and the north bank of the  river._[2]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wiki
pedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-French-1)  The ferry  
operated from 1850 to 1857._[2]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Orego
n#cite_note-French-1)  
_Boones Ferry_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boones_Ferry)  was operated starting in 
1847 by _Alphonso Boone_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonso_Boone) , the grandson 
of _Daniel Boone_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone) . This ferry remained in 
operation near  _Wilsonville_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilsonville,_Oregon)  
until 1954, when a bridge was built over  the Willamette near the site._[3]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wi
kipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-2)  
Polk and Marion  counties

Discontinued ferries in _Polk_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polk_County,_Oregon)  
and _Marion County_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_County,_Oregon)  include the 
Claggett at _Independence_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence,_Oregon) , which 
ran until 1950._[4]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-
Claggett-3)  Hales  Ferry, near _Jefferson_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_O
regon) , operated as early as 1846, and another  Jefferson ferry was run by 
Jacob Conser in 1848._[1]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#ci
te_note-Oregon-0)  Doaks  Ferry operated six miles (10 km) north of _Salem_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en
.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem,_Oregon) . It was established in the 1840s by 
Andrew  Jackson Doak, and sold in 1860 to Jesse Walling, who platted _Lincoln, 
Oregon_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lincoln,_Oregon&action=edit&redlink=
1) ._[1]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-Oregon-0)
  Doaks Ferry Road  is named for it. Spongs Ferry operated at Spong's 
Landing, now a Marion County  park, on the opposite side of the river from 
Doaks._[5]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-Spongs-4)  
Halls  Ferry operated beginning in 1868 about six miles (10 km) south of  
Salem, and Halls Ferry Road still exists today._[6]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic
_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-Halls-5)  The ferry was  started by Isaac (or 
Noah) Leabo, who sold to it Benjamin  Franklin (B. F.) Hall in either 1882 
or 1884, when  it became known as Halls Ferry._[6]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor
ic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-Halls-5)  B. F. Hall's  father, _Reason B. 
Hall_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reason_B._Hall&action=edit&redlink=1) 
, was the founder of the _Buena Vista Ferry_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buena_Vista_
Ferry)  in 1852, which still operates to  this day. Halls Ferry changed 
hands twice and was subsequently renamed, first  to "Croisan's Ferry" and later 
to "Pettyjohn's Ferry"._[6]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#
cite_note-Halls-5)  It is uncertain  when the ferry ceased operations. 
There was also a "Halls Ferry" railroad  station at this locale._[6]_ 
(mhtml:{CD7E9BC3-73B6-4889-9D87-80D0C1A2580E}mid://00000690/!x-usc:http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon#cite_note-Halls-5) 



----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _daviesw739_ (mailto:daviesw739 at aol.com)  
To: _or-roots mail list_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)   
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47  PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of  the Setting Sun


I don't know where you come up with this off  the wall stuff but someone 
has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's  ferry.
Walt
 
 
 
In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, 
_pmml at meritel.net_ (mailto:pmml at meritel.net)  writes:

      
he was not. 
 iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER  
HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT  HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR 
THE FERRY TO iSIAH.







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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Thu Feb 25 22:08:25 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:08:25 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Fw:  Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries
In-Reply-To: <20e5b.7e638feb.38b8beed@aol.com>
References: <20e5b.7e638feb.38b8beed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7C5E6880E57842109491938E38A19334@NancyPC>

Thank you Joanne, now I know : )
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Broad1000 at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Fw: Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries


  Received it more than once.  All is well. It came through
  Joanne Broadhurst

  In a message dated 2/25/2010 7:59:44 P.M. Hawaiian Standard Time, nancydean at columbia-center.org writes:
    I'm resending this post not sure if it went though before keeps bouncing back to me? Please let me know? 
    Sorry if you get it more than once, twice or more ..  Matheny and Leabo ferries 2 different ferries?     Nancy


    Historic ferries in Oregon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
    Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location. .... Historic photos of Oregon ferries from the Oregon Department of ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon - Cached - Similar
    The first recorded ferry in Oregon was on the Willamette River near present-day Wheatland.[1] This ferry was built during 1843?1844 and operated by Jesse Applegate when he occupied the former Methodist Mission at Mission Bottom. Daniel Matheny later started the Wheatland Ferry in the 1850s around the same location.[1]
    The Michel Laframboise Ferry operated on the Willamette running between Champoeg on the south bank and the north bank of the river.[2] The ferry operated from 1850 to 1857.[2]

    Boones Ferry was operated starting in 1847 by Alphonso Boone, the grandson of Daniel Boone. This ferry remained in operation near Wilsonville until 1954, when a bridge was built over the Willamette near the site.[3]

    Polk and Marion counties
    Discontinued ferries in Polk and Marion County include the Claggett at Independence, which ran until 1950.[4] Hales Ferry, near Jefferson, operated as early as 1846, and another Jefferson ferry was run by Jacob Conser in 1848.[1] Doaks Ferry operated six miles (10 km) north of Salem. It was established in the 1840s by Andrew Jackson Doak, and sold in 1860 to Jesse Walling, who platted Lincoln, Oregon.[1] Doaks Ferry Road is named for it. Spongs Ferry operated at Spong's Landing, now a Marion County park, on the opposite side of the river from Doaks.[5] Halls Ferry operated beginning in 1868 about six miles (10 km) south of Salem, and Halls Ferry Road still exists today.[6] The ferry was started by Isaac (or Noah) Leabo, who sold to it Benjamin Franklin (B. F.) Hall in either 1882 or 1884, when it became known as Halls Ferry.[6] B. F. Hall's father, Reason B. Hall, was the founder of the Buena Vista Ferry in 1852, which still operates to this day. Halls Ferry changed hands twice and was subsequently renamed, first to "Croisan's Ferry" and later to "Pettyjohn's Ferry".[6] It is uncertain when the ferry ceased operations. There was also a "Halls Ferry" railroad station at this locale.[6]

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: daviesw739 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


      I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.
      Walt



      In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
        he was not. 
         iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
        HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.



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From pmml at meritel.net  Fri Feb 26 08:41:37 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:41:37 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
In-Reply-To: <5c55327f.39bb.448c.af66.36e773e740c7@aol.com>
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>,
	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>,
	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>,
	<4B818570.8050509@earthlink.net>,
	<DBE08D217B504C80B87278FE84E4CFE9@AroundHome>,
	<9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward><36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>,
	<800636A207DB4EECA5BA0694B2D8695D@HP>,
	<18C869D87EEF449FA34F3EE89A76CFEE@OwnerPC>
	<5c55327f.39bb.448c.af66.36e773e740c7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <923D5CC7F0104598A907AFFAC8883166@OwnerPC>

Research I back up with facks not conjecture or family lour. 
I will send you copy of my documents.  I am not being jugemental stating facks we have 
gone through this before if you 
look up with government documents and court records you
will see what I am talking about.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.
  Walt



  In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
    he was not. 
     iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
    HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
      To: 'or-roots mail list' 
      Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
      Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


      Hi Walt,
      What is the book about?
      Thanks,
      Ronda



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      From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
      Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
      To: or-roots mail list

      The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

      Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

      Walt 

      PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  





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From pmml at meritel.net  Fri Feb 26 08:55:13 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:55:13 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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Listed in the Diary of Reverend G. H. Atkinson
Doc # 15 land claime # 300==================

  - James R. Leabo b. 1823 in Cooke Co., T=======================================================================cMarriag
   e certificate # 133 Oregon
  City He was born in Tennessee in1823 came to Oregon in 1846 served withthe
  volunteeers in the Cayuse War.  His home was in Portland where he diedAug 25,
  1898 Oregonian, Aug 25, 1898: Oregonian, Aug. 26, 1898.

  An Emily Lee is given in the 1850 Cencus as thedaughter of Orlando age22,
  born in New York.
  Listed diary of Reverend G.H. Atkinson page 393
  states He was born in Tennessee in 1823 came to Oregon 1846 served withthe
  volenters in the Cayuse War. His home was in Portland where he died Aug25
  1898 Oregonian Aug 26, 1889

  Death of James R. Leabo
  Pioneer of 1846 passed away at a good Samaritan Hospital James R. Leabo,a
  pioneer of 1846, died or paralysis at Good Samaritan hospital at noon
  yesterday after an illness of even weeks.  During all his sickness he was
  unconscious and to the last he was unable to recognize those of hisfamily who
  gathered about his bedside.  He was 75 years and 7 days old

  Mr Leabo was born in Tennessee August 18, 1823.  He came to Oregon in1846 and
  served with the volunteers in the Cayuse war.  He lived in Yaquina bayfor a
  year of two and settled in Clackamas county in 1851.  He engaged infarming
  there until 1883, when he moved to Portland.   Since then he resided inthis
  city almost continuously.

  Mr. Leabo's wife and five children survive him.  The Children are: S.B.Leabo,
  of Astoria Mrs A. H. Clift of Kakama; Mrs RH Mast of Bandon RL Leabo andMrs.
  M Wilson of Portland.  The Funeral will take place tomorrow morning whereMr.
  Leabo's late residence 690 Division Street East side. the pall bears willbe
  members of the Indidan War Verterans and Oregon Pioneer Association ofwhich
  origination deceased was a member.

  doc #15 land claime #300

  1870 U.S. CENSUS: Newton P.O., Benton Co., Oregon, 16 July 1870, page 71,
  Dwelling 405, Family 388:
  Leabo, Jas R.     47 M W  farmer      500 175  Tenn --Charlotte35 F
  W  kpng hse                   Can --Josiah J.           18 M W farm hand
             Oregon --Sterling                4 M W
        Oregon --Elizabeth H.         2 F W
  Oregon Grim, Peter H.     10 M W  farm hand                Utah Terr.
  --Emily                  11 F W at school                    Oregon--Mary E.
               10 F W at school                    Oregon

     NOTE:  Grim was difficult to decipher; it may have been CRIM.
  ----------------------------------------------------------- Lebo James R
  Cayuse war claim awarded 1 Jan 53 2:7
  of Clack co, land patent ready
  19 Jul 59, 1:3
  Statesman Jornel
  ----------------------------------------------------------- Documentresearch
  from State Archives
  RG-s5
  61A-20 No.
  01098   Leabo, Charlotte
  Biglow, S. et al vs Leabo, J.R. et al Supreme Court Case files, 1855-1904
  Arranged Numerically by file numbers 00001-04419

  Leabo, J.R.
  Biglow S. et al vs Leabo, J.R. et al
  Supreme Court
  Case files 1855-1904. Arranged numerically fy file numbers 00001-04419

  Index to Clackamas County Oregon Marriage Records 184?-1900 Leabo, Mr.James
  to Miss Emely (Emily) A. Lee
    16th day of Mar. 1851 by Rev. G. H. Atkinson
    Rec. May 30, 1853; attest: f.S. Holland Recorder

  Leabo James R. and Charlotte Crim
  13th day Mar. 1861 by Wm. Armpriest , J.P.
  Wit Sarah Armpriest, M.E. ArmpriestN. He was raised by his aunt and
  > uncle, Isaac Leabo and Mary (Polly) Lewis. He married Emily Armina Lee
  on
  > 16 Mar 1851 in Oregon City, Clackamas Co., OR. Emily was b. 22 July 1828
  in
  > Jefferson Co., NY .. the daughter of Philander Lee and Anna Harvey Green.
  > There is an 1850 census record mentioned in a previous posting to this
  list
  > that shows Emily as the daughter of Orlando Lee. That was an error on
  the
  > census ... should show her father as PHILANDER.
  >
  > 1850 U.S. CENSUS: Clackamas Co., Oregon Terr., Family 184
  > Orlando Lee 50 farmer, all born NY except Albert
  > --Anna 44> --Emily 22
  > --Edwin 20
  > --Herman 17
  > --Elvira 14
  > --Orris 12
  > -- Caroline 9
  > --Albert 3 b. Iowa
  >
  > 1870 U.S. CENSUS: Oregon City, Clackamas Co., OR, Family 455, Page 113
  > June 1870
  > Philander Lee age 68 farmer b. NY
  > --Anna age 62 kps hse b. NY
  > --Mary age 16 b. OR
  > Josiah Lebo age 48 laborer b. OR
  >
  > 1880 US CENSUS: Clackamas Co., OR
  > Lebeo, Josiah age 50 IN VA NC
  > --Nancy E. Wf 48 SD Car KY
  > --Martin D. Sn 20 NB
  > --Nancy Da 17
  > --Alice Da 10
  > --Sarah A. Da 7
  > --Dora D. Da 3 IL
  > and
  > in the Lower Molalla Pct.
  > Lebo, Thomas age 22 b. MA
  > --Arthela Wf 19 b. MA
  > --Lester Sn 3/12 b. OR
  ---- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


  also this.


  Even some of our own people pretended to misunderstand him, but they were probably of a later emigration. My Father admired, respected and was deeply grateful to him.The Methodist Mission at Wheatland was in charge of Jason Lee. When we came the original Mission at Wheatland had been abandoned and the new Mission was established at Salem.We owned and lived in the house that was built for Dr. David Leslie, but most of the houses were across the river. Jason Lee's young wife was buried there.

  Walt


  In a message dated 02/25/10 20:35:49 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
    From the Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol. 48, p. 345 [1947 - I believe]:



    "A new six car electrically-propelled ferry boat, Daniel Matheny III, went into service at the Wheatland ferry crossing of the Willamette River, on June 11.  Daniel Matheny, pioneer of 1843, purchased James O'Neal's (sic) land claim in 1844, and soon thereafter established regular ferry service.  Lindsay Applegate assisted him in constructing the first ferry boat, using 'bushel or two of literature he found in the old house' recently abandoned by the Jason Lee missionary workers at Mission Bottom.



    On Jan. 1853, the territorial legislature authorized a public road from Salem to Dayton, crossing the river at Matheny's ferry.  For more than ninety years the service was privately owned and operated and became a public ferry less than ten years ago."



    Note:  James O'Neil is my children's 4th great-grandfather.



    Barbara Herring


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "daviesw739" <daviesw739 at aol.com>
    To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48:22 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)



    YES  .YES
    It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
    Walt Davies


    In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
      nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
      To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
      Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


      > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
      > 
      > We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
      > called Matheny Ferry. 
      > 
      > Sue 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
      > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
      > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
      > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
      > 
      > 
      > Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
      > admin for the one on root sweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
      > them. 
      > I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
      > French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
      > hand. 
      >   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
      > same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
      > old 
      > days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
      > most 
      > places eg Champoeg. 
      >   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
      > Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
      > into 
      > the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
      > Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
      > history 
      > for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
      & amp;g t; history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
      > wonder 
      > how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
      > Dan M 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
      > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
      > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
      > Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
      > 
      > 
      > In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
      > in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
      > numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
      > Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
      > County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
      > "Irian". 
      > 
      > Anyway, of the former, less relat ed one , I found the Matheny name 
      > popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
      > thought might be of interest to some: 
      > 
      > 
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Fri Feb 26 09:31:15 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:31:15 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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This is a very interesting topic.
I am enthused to read every thing :)
Thanks
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Fri Feb 26 09:45:53 2010
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (DanM.)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:45:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC>,
	<82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward>,
	<65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C38862AB@NancyPC><4B7E5C64.6070805@earthlink.net><4B7E8147.1040300@earthlink.net>,
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	<9802A1607FCF4184916E626DE36ED25D@suesteward><36b23ed0.805e.4069.aaa0.f11670fcc8a0@aol.com>,
	<800636A207DB4EECA5BA0694B2D8695D@HP>,
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Would be interesting to see the papers ?
Dan M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.
  Walt



  In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
    he was not. 
     iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
    HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
      To: 'or-roots mail list' 
      Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
      Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


      Hi Walt,
      What is the book about?
      Thanks,
      Ronda



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      From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
      Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
      To: or-roots mail list

      The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

      Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

      Walt 

      PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  





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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Fri Feb 26 09:56:05 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:56:05 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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>From what I'm reading at  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon 

Jesse Applegate was the 1st operator of the Wheatland Ferry then Walt writes: Daniel Matheny V it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry. He says one of the first OWNERS, not the first... I am enthused to read everything like Dan M. is : ) 

*I read Leabo & Matheny ferries are 2 different ferries.. Am I wrong?

Nancy

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


  Listed in the Diary of Reverend G. H. Atkinson
  Doc # 15 land claime # 300==================

    - James R. Leabo b. 1823 in Cooke Co., T=======================================================================cMarriag
     e certificate # 133 Oregon
    City He was born in Tennessee in1823 came to Oregon in 1846 served withthe
    volunteeers in the Cayuse War.  His home was in Portland where he diedAug 25,
    1898 Oregonian, Aug 25, 1898: Oregonian, Aug. 26, 1898.

    An Emily Lee is given in the 1850 Cencus as thedaughter of Orlando age22,
    born in New York.
    Listed diary of Reverend G.H. Atkinson page 393
    states He was born in Tennessee in 1823 came to Oregon 1846 served withthe
    volenters in the Cayuse War. His home was in Portland where he died Aug25
    1898 Oregonian Aug 26, 1889

    Death of James R. Leabo
    Pioneer of 1846 passed away at a good Samaritan Hospital James R. Leabo,a
    pioneer of 1846, died or paralysis at Good Samaritan hospital at noon
    yesterday after an illness of even weeks.  During all his sickness he was
    unconscious and to the last he was unable to recognize those of hisfamily who
    gathered about his bedside.  He was 75 years and 7 days old

    Mr Leabo was born in Tennessee August 18, 1823.  He came to Oregon in1846 and
    served with the volunteers in the Cayuse war.  He lived in Yaquina bayfor a
    year of two and settled in Clackamas county in 1851.  He engaged infarming
    there until 1883, when he moved to Portland.   Since then he resided inthis
    city almost continuously.

    Mr. Leabo's wife and five children survive him.  The Children are: S.B.Leabo,
    of Astoria Mrs A. H. Clift of Kakama; Mrs RH Mast of Bandon RL Leabo andMrs.
    M Wilson of Portland.  The Funeral will take place tomorrow morning whereMr.
    Leabo's late residence 690 Division Street East side. the pall bears willbe
    members of the Indidan War Verterans and Oregon Pioneer Association ofwhich
    origination deceased was a member.

    doc #15 land claime #300

    1870 U.S. CENSUS: Newton P.O., Benton Co., Oregon, 16 July 1870, page 71,
    Dwelling 405, Family 388:
    Leabo, Jas R.     47 M W  farmer      500 175  Tenn --Charlotte35 F
    W  kpng hse                   Can --Josiah J.           18 M W farm hand
               Oregon --Sterling                4 M W
          Oregon --Elizabeth H.         2 F W
    Oregon Grim, Peter H.     10 M W  farm hand                Utah Terr.
    --Emily                  11 F W at school                    Oregon--Mary E.
                 10 F W at school                    Oregon

       NOTE:  Grim was difficult to decipher; it may have been CRIM.
    ----------------------------------------------------------- Lebo James R
    Cayuse war claim awarded 1 Jan 53 2:7
    of Clack co, land patent ready
    19 Jul 59, 1:3
    Statesman Jornel
    ----------------------------------------------------------- Documentresearch
    from State Archives
    RG-s5
    61A-20 No.
    01098   Leabo, Charlotte
    Biglow, S. et al vs Leabo, J.R. et al Supreme Court Case files, 1855-1904
    Arranged Numerically by file numbers 00001-04419

    Leabo, J.R.
    Biglow S. et al vs Leabo, J.R. et al
    Supreme Court
    Case files 1855-1904. Arranged numerically fy file numbers 00001-04419

    Index to Clackamas County Oregon Marriage Records 184?-1900 Leabo, Mr.James
    to Miss Emely (Emily) A. Lee
      16th day of Mar. 1851 by Rev. G. H. Atkinson
      Rec. May 30, 1853; attest: f.S. Holland Recorder

    Leabo James R. and Charlotte Crim
    13th day Mar. 1861 by Wm. Armpriest , J.P.
    Wit Sarah Armpriest, M.E. ArmpriestN. He was raised by his aunt and
    > uncle, Isaac Leabo and Mary (Polly) Lewis. He married Emily Armina Lee
    on
    > 16 Mar 1851 in Oregon City, Clackamas Co., OR. Emily was b. 22 July 1828
    in
    > Jefferson Co., NY .. the daughter of Philander Lee and Anna Harvey Green.
    > There is an 1850 census record mentioned in a previous posting to this
    list
    > that shows Emily as the daughter of Orlando Lee. That was an error on
    the
    > census ... should show her father as PHILANDER.
    >
    > 1850 U.S. CENSUS: Clackamas Co., Oregon Terr., Family 184
    > Orlando Lee 50 farmer, all born NY except Albert
    > --Anna 44> --Emily 22
    > --Edwin 20
    > --Herman 17
    > --Elvira 14
    > --Orris 12
    > -- Caroline 9
    > --Albert 3 b. Iowa
    >
    > 1870 U.S. CENSUS: Oregon City, Clackamas Co., OR, Family 455, Page 113
    > June 1870
    > Philander Lee age 68 farmer b. NY
    > --Anna age 62 kps hse b. NY
    > --Mary age 16 b. OR
    > Josiah Lebo age 48 laborer b. OR
    >
    > 1880 US CENSUS: Clackamas Co., OR
    > Lebeo, Josiah age 50 IN VA NC
    > --Nancy E. Wf 48 SD Car KY
    > --Martin D. Sn 20 NB
    > --Nancy Da 17
    > --Alice Da 10
    > --Sarah A. Da 7
    > --Dora D. Da 3 IL
    > and
    > in the Lower Molalla Pct.
    > Lebo, Thomas age 22 b. MA
    > --Arthela Wf 19 b. MA
    > --Lester Sn 3/12 b. OR
    ---- Original Message ----- 
    From: daviesw739 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:22 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


    also this.


    Even some of our own people pretended to misunderstand him, but they were probably of a later emigration. My Father admired, respected and was deeply grateful to him.The Methodist Mission at Wheatland was in charge of Jason Lee. When we came the original Mission at Wheatland had been abandoned and the new Mission was established at Salem.We owned and lived in the house that was built for Dr. David Leslie, but most of the houses were across the river. Jason Lee's young wife was buried there.

    Walt


    In a message dated 02/25/10 20:35:49 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
      From the Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol. 48, p. 345 [1947 - I believe]:



      "A new six car electrically-propelled ferry boat, Daniel Matheny III, went into service at the Wheatland ferry crossing of the Willamette River, on June 11.  Daniel Matheny, pioneer of 1843, purchased James O'Neal's (sic) land claim in 1844, and soon thereafter established regular ferry service.  Lindsay Applegate assisted him in constructing the first ferry boat, using 'bushel or two of literature he found in the old house' recently abandoned by the Jason Lee missionary workers at Mission Bottom.



      On Jan. 1853, the territorial legislature authorized a public road from Salem to Dayton, crossing the river at Matheny's ferry.  For more than ninety years the service was privately owned and operated and became a public ferry less than ten years ago."



      Note:  James O'Neil is my children's 4th great-grandfather.



      Barbara Herring


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "daviesw739" <daviesw739 at aol.com>
      To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48:22 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)



      YES  .YES
      It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
      Walt Davies


      In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
        nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
        To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
        Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


        > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
        > 
        > We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
        > called Matheny Ferry. 
        > 
        > Sue 
        > 
        > ----- Original Message ----- 
        > From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
        > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
        > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
        > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
        > 
        > 
        > Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
        > admin for the one on root sweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
        > them. 
        > I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
        > French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
        > hand. 
        >   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
        > same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
        > old 
        > days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
        > most 
        > places eg Champoeg. 
        >   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
        > Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
        > into 
        > the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
        > Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
        > history 
        > for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
        & amp;g t; history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
        > wonder 
        > how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
        > Dan M 
        > ----- Original Message ----- 
        > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
        > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
        > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
        > Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
        > 
        > 
        > In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
        > in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
        > numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
        > Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
        > County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
        > "Irian". 
        > 
        > Anyway, of the former, less relat ed one , I found the Matheny name 
        > popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
        > thought might be of interest to some: 
        > 
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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 26 10:08:48 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:08:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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I was thinking I read they were in 2 different locations ?
Dan m
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


  From what I'm reading at  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon 

  Jesse Applegate was the 1st operator of the Wheatland Ferry then Walt writes: Daniel Matheny V it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry. He says one of the first OWNERS, not the first... I am enthused to read everything like Dan M. is : ) 

  *I read Leabo & Matheny ferries are 2 different ferries.. Am I wrong?

  Nancy 
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Fri Feb 26 10:22:53 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:22:53 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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I have to admit I'm confused between Marhsa's ferry I think she is talking about 'Leabo' & Walt's is 'Matheny'? so why are they saying each one had the first? It's a really rainy day outside so I'm on my computer getting involved probably where I shouldn't on this one, lol..

Nancy 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan M 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


  I was thinking I read they were in 2 different locations ?
  Dan m
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nancy Lee Adams 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:56 AM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


    From what I'm reading at  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon 

    Jesse Applegate was the 1st operator of the Wheatland Ferry then Walt writes: Daniel Matheny V it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry. He says one of the first OWNERS, not the first... I am enthused to read everything like Dan M. is : ) 

    *I read Leabo & Matheny ferries are 2 different ferries.. Am I wrong?

    Nancy 


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From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Fri Feb 26 10:39:09 2010
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (Dan M)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:39:09 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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Maybe its who had the first ferry some place.
?
Wonder whats in the State archive about it.
Dan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


  I have to admit I'm confused between Marhsa's ferry I think she is talking about 'Leabo' & Walt's is 'Matheny'? so why are they saying each one had the first? It's a really rainy day outside so I'm on my computer getting involved probably where I shouldn't on this one, lol..

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From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 26 11:05:41 2010
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:05:41 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland, Oregon
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 From a perhaps less biased source than our two current responders, is 
this website, citing a book titled "Willamette Landings -- Ghost Towns 
for the River", by Howard McKinlay Corning as a source:
   http://www.wheatlandferry.com/oregon/atchison.html

    "A public sale of the lots in the town of Atchison, in Yamhill
    County, on the west bank of the Willamette river, at Matheny's
    Ferry, will take place on the 15th of May next (1847) on the
    premises. Wheat will be taken in payment. Further particulars as to
    terms &c, will be made known the day of sale." --Daniel Matheny

This notice first appeared in the advertising columns of the Spectator, 
April 29, 1847, but Atchison is not to be found on any map of Oregon, 
past or present. Lying at a point about twelve miles below Salem, 
Atchison made a quick growth to regional importance. Its local residents 
however, thought Atchison City an unlikely name for a wheat-shipping 
center and took to calling the place Wheatland. Wheatland, although 
still a name on the Oregon map, is gone--its site covered by a peach 
orchard that spreads along the bench-land. Only the ferry landing and 
the road to it remain.

Like many other early Oregon towns, Wheatland was the ambitious 
undertaking of a single individual. Its founder, Daniel Matheny, was 
born in Virginia, December 11, 1793. Following adventurous years in the 
War of 1812, in the Black Hawk War of Illinois, and in a minor fracus of 
1839 referred to as the Mormon War, in which he moved from a lieutanancy 
to a captaincy, Matheny learned of the free land to the west in the 
Oregon Country. It was in the spring of 1843 that he and his brother 
Henry allied themelves with the overland wagon train that became known 
as the "Great Migration." In the journey westward Matheney's sound 
judgement was often depended upon.

Evidently Matheny brought some money with him to Oregon; for in the 
spring of 1844 he purchased the squatter rights to the donation land 
claim of James O'Neal, situated on the west bank of the Willamete River 
at a point about seventeen miles above Champoeg. That was just across 
the river and slightly north of the first Methodist Mission, then 
recently abandoned in favor of Salem. Of greater advantage was the fact 
that the O'Neal claim also lay just southwest of French Prairie, a 
district of growing settlement.

continued at the listed URL,

Bill Strickland


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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Fri Feb 26 11:35:48 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:35:48 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland, Oregon
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More Wheatland Ferry History,

Oregon Hikes - Willamette Mission Park
Follow this promenade a mile to the Wheatland Ferry landing. ... Walk along the road to return to your car, turning left at the first stop sign and ... A trailside monument describes the mission built on the old riverbank by Methodist ...
web.oregon.com > Recreation > Hiking - Cached - Similar
History: The Wheatland Ferry has the oldest ferry landing in Oregon, dating to 1844 when mules winched a log barge across the river with ropes.

Nancy


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris & Bill Strickland 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:05 AM
  Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland, Oregon


  >From a perhaps less biased source than our two current responders, is this website, citing a book titled "Willamette Landings - Ghost Towns for the River", by Howard McKinlay Corning as a source:
     http://www.wheatlandferry.com/oregon/atchison.html


    "A public sale of the lots in the town of Atchison, in Yamhill County, on the west bank of the Willamette river, at Matheny's Ferry, will take place on the 15th of May next (1847) on the premises. Wheat will be taken in payment. Further particulars as to terms &c, will be made known the day of sale." -Daniel Matheny
  This notice first appeared in the advertising columns of the Spectator, April 29, 1847, but Atchison is not to be found on any map of Oregon, past or present. Lying at a point about twelve miles below Salem, Atchison made a quick growth to regional importance. Its local residents however, thought Atchison City an unlikely name for a wheat-shipping center and took to calling the place Wheatland. Wheatland, although still a name on the Oregon map, is gone-its site covered by a peach orchard that spreads along the bench-land. Only the ferry landing and the road to it remain. 

  Like many other early Oregon towns, Wheatland was the ambitious undertaking of a single individual. Its founder, Daniel Matheny, was born in Virginia, December 11, 1793. Following adventurous years in the War of 1812, in the Black Hawk War of Illinois, and in a minor fracus of 1839 referred to as the Mormon War, in which he moved from a lieutanancy to a captaincy, Matheny learned of the free land to the west in the Oregon Country. It was in the spring of 1843 that he and his brother Henry allied themelves with the overland wagon train that became known as the "Great Migration." In the journey westward Matheney's sound judgement was often depended upon.

  Evidently Matheny brought some money with him to Oregon; for in the spring of 1844 he purchased the squatter rights to the donation land claim of James O'Neal, situated on the west bank of the Willamete River at a point about seventeen miles above Champoeg. That was just across the river and slightly north of the first Methodist Mission, then recently abandoned in favor of Salem. Of greater advantage was the fact that the O'Neal claim also lay just southwest of French Prairie, a district of growing settlement.


  continued at the listed URL,


  Bill Strickland






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From pmml at meritel.net  Fri Feb 26 11:45:56 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:45:56 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry
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No nancy you are not wrong.  Your write.  All I am saying is he was not first and he was sued in court and he ended up buying Leabo intrest in the ferry per court papers and it is now know as Mathney.  My point was he was far from the first. 
Parrot, fish. Leabo, Lee  in that area and many others if you look who was there first.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


  From what I'm reading at  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_ferries_in_Oregon 

  Jesse Applegate was the 1st operator of the Wheatland Ferry then Walt writes: Daniel Matheny V it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry. He says one of the first OWNERS, not the first... I am enthused to read everything like Dan M. is : ) 

  *I read Leabo & Matheny ferries are 2 different ferries.. Am I wrong?

  Nancy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:55 AM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wheatland Ferry


    Listed in the Diary of Reverend G. H. Atkinson
    Doc # 15 land claime # 300==================

      - James R. Leabo b. 1823 in Cooke Co., T=======================================================================cMarriag
       e certificate # 133 Oregon
      City He was born in Tennessee in1823 came to Oregon in 1846 served withthe
      volunteeers in the Cayuse War.  His home was in Portland where he diedAug 25,
      1898 Oregonian, Aug 25, 1898: Oregonian, Aug. 26, 1898.

      An Emily Lee is given in the 1850 Cencus as thedaughter of Orlando age22,
      born in New York.
      Listed diary of Reverend G.H. Atkinson page 393
      states He was born in Tennessee in 1823 came to Oregon 1846 served withthe
      volenters in the Cayuse War. His home was in Portland where he died Aug25
      1898 Oregonian Aug 26, 1889

      Death of James R. Leabo
      Pioneer of 1846 passed away at a good Samaritan Hospital James R. Leabo,a
      pioneer of 1846, died or paralysis at Good Samaritan hospital at noon
      yesterday after an illness of even weeks.  During all his sickness he was
      unconscious and to the last he was unable to recognize those of hisfamily who
      gathered about his bedside.  He was 75 years and 7 days old

      Mr Leabo was born in Tennessee August 18, 1823.  He came to Oregon in1846 and
      served with the volunteers in the Cayuse war.  He lived in Yaquina bayfor a
      year of two and settled in Clackamas county in 1851.  He engaged infarming
      there until 1883, when he moved to Portland.   Since then he resided inthis
      city almost continuously.

      Mr. Leabo's wife and five children survive him.  The Children are: S.B.Leabo,
      of Astoria Mrs A. H. Clift of Kakama; Mrs RH Mast of Bandon RL Leabo andMrs.
      M Wilson of Portland.  The Funeral will take place tomorrow morning whereMr.
      Leabo's late residence 690 Division Street East side. the pall bears willbe
      members of the Indidan War Verterans and Oregon Pioneer Association ofwhich
      origination deceased was a member.

      doc #15 land claime #300

      1870 U.S. CENSUS: Newton P.O., Benton Co., Oregon, 16 July 1870, page 71,
      Dwelling 405, Family 388:
      Leabo, Jas R.     47 M W  farmer      500 175  Tenn --Charlotte35 F
      W  kpng hse                   Can --Josiah J.           18 M W farm hand
                 Oregon --Sterling                4 M W
            Oregon --Elizabeth H.         2 F W
      Oregon Grim, Peter H.     10 M W  farm hand                Utah Terr.
      --Emily                  11 F W at school                    Oregon--Mary E.
                   10 F W at school                    Oregon

         NOTE:  Grim was difficult to decipher; it may have been CRIM.
      ----------------------------------------------------------- Lebo James R
      Cayuse war claim awarded 1 Jan 53 2:7
      of Clack co, land patent ready
      19 Jul 59, 1:3
      Statesman Jornel
      ----------------------------------------------------------- Documentresearch
      from State Archives
      RG-s5
      61A-20 No.
      01098   Leabo, Charlotte
      Biglow, S. et al vs Leabo, J.R. et al Supreme Court Case files, 1855-1904
      Arranged Numerically by file numbers 00001-04419

      Leabo, J.R.
      Biglow S. et al vs Leabo, J.R. et al
      Supreme Court
      Case files 1855-1904. Arranged numerically fy file numbers 00001-04419

      Index to Clackamas County Oregon Marriage Records 184?-1900 Leabo, Mr.James
      to Miss Emely (Emily) A. Lee
        16th day of Mar. 1851 by Rev. G. H. Atkinson
        Rec. May 30, 1853; attest: f.S. Holland Recorder

      Leabo James R. and Charlotte Crim
      13th day Mar. 1861 by Wm. Armpriest , J.P.
      Wit Sarah Armpriest, M.E. ArmpriestN. He was raised by his aunt and
      > uncle, Isaac Leabo and Mary (Polly) Lewis. He married Emily Armina Lee
      on
      > 16 Mar 1851 in Oregon City, Clackamas Co., OR. Emily was b. 22 July 1828
      in
      > Jefferson Co., NY .. the daughter of Philander Lee and Anna Harvey Green.
      > There is an 1850 census record mentioned in a previous posting to this
      list
      > that shows Emily as the daughter of Orlando Lee. That was an error on
      the
      > census ... should show her father as PHILANDER.
      >
      > 1850 U.S. CENSUS: Clackamas Co., Oregon Terr., Family 184
      > Orlando Lee 50 farmer, all born NY except Albert
      > --Anna 44> --Emily 22
      > --Edwin 20
      > --Herman 17
      > --Elvira 14
      > --Orris 12
      > -- Caroline 9
      > --Albert 3 b. Iowa
      >
      > 1870 U.S. CENSUS: Oregon City, Clackamas Co., OR, Family 455, Page 113
      > June 1870
      > Philander Lee age 68 farmer b. NY
      > --Anna age 62 kps hse b. NY
      > --Mary age 16 b. OR
      > Josiah Lebo age 48 laborer b. OR
      >
      > 1880 US CENSUS: Clackamas Co., OR
      > Lebeo, Josiah age 50 IN VA NC
      > --Nancy E. Wf 48 SD Car KY
      > --Martin D. Sn 20 NB
      > --Nancy Da 17
      > --Alice Da 10
      > --Sarah A. Da 7
      > --Dora D. Da 3 IL
      > and
      > in the Lower Molalla Pct.
      > Lebo, Thomas age 22 b. MA
      > --Arthela Wf 19 b. MA
      > --Lester Sn 3/12 b. OR
      ---- Original Message ----- 
      From: daviesw739 
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      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:22 PM
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      also this.


      Even some of our own people pretended to misunderstand him, but they were probably of a later emigration. My Father admired, respected and was deeply grateful to him.The Methodist Mission at Wheatland was in charge of Jason Lee. When we came the original Mission at Wheatland had been abandoned and the new Mission was established at Salem.We owned and lived in the house that was built for Dr. David Leslie, but most of the houses were across the river. Jason Lee's young wife was buried there.

      Walt


      In a message dated 02/25/10 20:35:49 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
        From the Oregon Historical Quarterly, Vol. 48, p. 345 [1947 - I believe]:



        "A new six car electrically-propelled ferry boat, Daniel Matheny III, went into service at the Wheatland ferry crossing of the Willamette River, on June 11.  Daniel Matheny, pioneer of 1843, purchased James O'Neal's (sic) land claim in 1844, and soon thereafter established regular ferry service.  Lindsay Applegate assisted him in constructing the first ferry boat, using 'bushel or two of literature he found in the old house' recently abandoned by the Jason Lee missionary workers at Mission Bottom.



        On Jan. 1853, the territorial legislature authorized a public road from Salem to Dayton, crossing the river at Matheny's ferry.  For more than ninety years the service was privately owned and operated and became a public ferry less than ten years ago."



        Note:  James O'Neil is my children's 4th great-grandfather.



        Barbara Herring


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "daviesw739" <daviesw739 at aol.com>
        To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48:22 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere --  (and Simkins)



        YES  .YES
        It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
        Walt Davies


        In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
          nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
          To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
          Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:11 PM 
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 


          > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jtenlen/ORBios/mcmatheny.txt 
          > 
          > We've used the Wheatland Ferry several times, I think it was previously 
          > called Matheny Ferry. 
          > 
          > Sue 
          > 
          > ----- Original Message ----- 
          > From: "Dan M" <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> 
          > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
          > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:50 AM 
          > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
          > 
          > 
          > Matneny has a list on some server, I used to be on it, I used to be the 
          > admin for the one on root sweb, Dianna started some one line group for 
          > them. 
          > I know they are always showing up around Matney also, I think the name is 
          > French and we found Matney there as DeMatenyee <sp> close to that off 
          > hand. 
          >   I see Matheny properties close to Matney properties and some travels in 
          > same areas, how ever there are more of the pioneer type people in those 
          > old 
          > days the Matheny seemed to be to more famously known over the Matney in 
          > most 
          > places eg Champoeg. 
          >   Matney like any other names has a lot of milestones but I noticed the 
          > Matheny seem to be more well known over all eg Walt Davis's Aunts book 
          > into 
          > the setting sun. SO far we have not found any one who has recorded any 
          > Matney/Mattingly pioneer mentions too much. There is a great deal of 
          > history 
          > for folks in the era and each name I read about seems to have its own 
          & amp;g t; history, very much fun reading about all names of the times, I always 
          > wonder 
          > how it really was all these people on the wagon train 1843 so to speak. 
          > Dan M 
          > ----- Original Message ----- 
          > From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
          > To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
          > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:11 AM 
          > Subject: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins) 
          > 
          > 
          > In this Hiram Simkins business, I find two in Oregon before 1900 -- one 
          > in the Wheatland area of Yanhill & Polk Counties, with connections to 
          > numerous of the well-known Champoeg area pioneers, and his uncle, Hiram 
          > Simpkins, found in the 1880 census in "Jump off Joe" in Josephine 
          > County, the census taker writing something that could be transcribed as 
          > "Irian". 
          > 
          > Anyway, of the former, less relat ed one , I found the Matheny name 
          > popping up again, which, since it has been a topic on this list, I 
          > thought might be of interest to some: 
          > 
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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Fri Feb 26 11:59:07 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:59:07 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper &  Matheny
In-Reply-To: <40856280.de75.47f9.a94c.15e8f964e8e1@aol.com>
References: <1D9EDC93CCB24073B714C671986DFA81@NancyPC><82B1B1D700CA48E4B464FE2452DBC8EB@suesteward><65D5702E23AD44D0BC4C4A67C3886
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Hi Walt & everyone - I found this on the Internet. Interesting reading to me as my family came to Marion Co., OR. and moved to Eastern, WA. I am always trying to find more connections with my Oregon Trail pioneers & love to read about all the surnames that are mentioned. You have probably seen this before but though I'd send just in case. I think everyone on the list would enjoy reading also.. Mentions Wheatland.    Nancy

GREAT READING!!
 
WILLIAM SHEPHERD COOPER
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
man who lived with the Daniel Matheny family at Wheatland in 1850, whom Mary ..... In 1904?05, he and Arthur Huntley built the .... operated the Matheny ferry, the first ferry operated across the Willamette River near. Wheatland. ...
www.1tex.net/hmc/cooperbios.pdf

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: daviesw739 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


  YES  .YES
  It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
  Walt Davies


  In a message dated 02/25/10 16:14:23 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:
    nO nO nO nO nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 
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From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:09:02 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Cooper, Hewitt, Matheny
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Pictures of Hewitt, Matheny & Cooper.  There is so much information on the Internet I love it..   Nancy

Hewitt & Matheny-July, 1996
This was the first ferry Willamette Valley capable of transporting a wagon and ... The young McLoughlin had built a cabin, cleared and fenced several acres, ... back to their first homestead north of Wheatland and the old Matheny claim. ...
www.historicoregoncity.org/HOC/index.php?...id... - Cached - Similar
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nancy Lee Adams 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cooper & Matheny


  Hi Walt & everyone - I found this on the Internet. Interesting reading to me as my family came to Marion Co., OR. and moved to Eastern, WA. I am always trying to find more connections with my Oregon Trail pioneers & love to read about all the surnames that are mentioned. You have probably seen this before but though I'd send just in case. I think everyone on the list would enjoy reading also.. Mentions Wheatland.    Nancy

  GREAT READING!!

  WILLIAM SHEPHERD COOPER
  File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
  man who lived with the Daniel Matheny family at Wheatland in 1850, whom Mary ..... In 1904?05, he and Arthur Huntley built the .... operated the Matheny ferry, the first ferry operated across the Willamette River near. Wheatland. ...
  www.1tex.net/hmc/cooperbios.pdf

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: daviesw739 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:48 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Matheny's Everywhere -- (and Simkins)


    YES  .YES
    It was call Mathena's  or Matheny's Ferry before the town of Wheatland existed.  Daniel Matheny my 3 gt. grandfather started the town of Wheatland he owned the Ferry many years before buying it from the Methodist Missionaries in 1844.
    Walt Davies


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From barbhg1221 at comcast.net  Fri Feb 26 12:45:29 2010
From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:45:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland, Oregon
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Thanks for the link.? That agrees with the family information that I have that Matheny bought from James O'Neil (often spelled O'Neal by others).? James O'Neil went from there to built a grist mill at Ellendale in Polk Co.? After selling that, he ran a store at Tampico. 



Barbara Herring 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris & Bill Strickland" <lechevrier at earthlink.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:05:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland, Oregon 

>From a perhaps less biased source than our two current responders, is this website, citing a book titled ?Willamette Landings ? Ghost Towns for the River?, by Howard McKinlay Corning as a source: 
?? http://www.wheatlandferry.com/oregon/atchison.html 



?A public sale of the lots in the town of Atchison, in Yamhill County, on the west bank of the Willamette river, at Matheny?s Ferry, will take place on the 15th of May next (1847) on the premises. Wheat will be taken in payment. Further particulars as to terms &c, will be made known the day of sale.? ?Daniel Matheny 

This notice first appeared in the advertising columns of the Spectator , April 29, 1847, but Atchison is not to be found on any map of Oregon, past or present. Lying at a point about twelve miles below Salem, Atchison made a quick growth to regional importance. Its local residents however, thought Atchison City an unlikely name for a wheat-shipping center and took to calling the place Wheatland. Wheatland, although still a name on the Oregon map, is gone?its site covered by a peach orchard that spreads along the bench-land. Only the ferry landing and the road to it remain. 

Like many other early Oregon towns, Wheatland was the ambitious undertaking of a single individual. Its founder, Daniel Matheny, was born in Virginia, December 11, 1793. Following adventurous years in the War of 1812, in the Black Hawk War of Illinois, and in a minor fracus of 1839 referred to as the Mormon War, in which he moved from a lieutanancy to a captaincy, Matheny learned of the free land to the west in the Oregon Country. It was in the spring of 1843 that he and his brother Henry allied themelves with the overland wagon train that became known as the ?Great Migration.? In the journey westward Matheney?s sound judgement was often depended upon. 

Evidently Matheny brought some money with him to Oregon; for in the spring of 1844 he purchased the squatter rights to the donation land claim of James O?Neal, situated on the west bank of the Willamete River at a point about seventeen miles above Champoeg. That was just across the river and slightly north of the first Methodist Mission, then recently abandoned in favor of Salem. Of greater advantage was the fact that the O?Neal claim also lay just southwest of French Prairie, a district of growing settlement. 


continued at the listed URL, 


Bill Strickland 


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From vkassing at mywdo.com  Fri Feb 26 13:11:48 2010
From: vkassing at mywdo.com (ViolaRae)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:11:48 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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Marsha, If you would write respectfully you would get a whole lot more
credence paid to what you are trying to say. 

 

Walt has been researching for many years (Over 10 that I know of).  He
understands how important the FACTS (court documents) are.  He is fortunate
to have had family that wrote in their journals which makes the FACTS
interesting.

 

Please quit the hysterics and post with manners.  I don't want to just
delete your postings because you might have information I can use but with
giant sized fonts I am deleting.

 

Viola Rae Kassing

 

-----Original Message-----
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Marsha
Bradley-Luthy
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:42 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun

 

Research I back up with facks not conjecture or family lour. 

I will send you copy of my documents.  I am not being jugemental stating
facks we have 

gone through this before if you 

look up with government documents and court records you

will see what I am talking about.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: daviesw739 <mailto:daviesw739 at aol.com>  

To: or-roots mail list <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47 PM

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun

 

I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has
fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.

Walt

 

 

 

In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net
writes:

he was not. 

 iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 

HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR
THE FERRY TO iSIAH.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Steve  <mailto:whizinc at comcast.net> & Ronda Howard 

To: 'or-roots mail list' <mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>  

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM

Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun

 

Hi Walt,

What is the book about?
Thanks,

Ronda

 


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From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
To: or-roots mail list

The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt.
grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

 

Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

 

Walt 

 

PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send
online.  

 

 

 


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From pmml at meritel.net  Fri Feb 26 13:49:39 2010
From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:49:39 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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So I was rude?  Wonder what that makes you.
Your probably write I have only been researching since I was in my 20 s and now I am in my 60s.  Last count thata 40 years and registered with the State as one of there certified researches.  Glad to see I was rude.  
Sorry Walt 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ViolaRae 
  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


  Marsha, If you would write respectfully you would get a whole lot more credence paid to what you are trying to say. 



  Walt has been researching for many years (Over 10 that I know of).  He understands how important the FACTS (court documents) are.  He is fortunate to have had family that wrote in their journals which makes the FACTS interesting.



  Please quit the hysterics and post with manners.  I don't want to just delete your postings because you might have information I can use but with giant sized fonts I am deleting.



  Viola Rae Kassing



  -----Original Message-----
  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Marsha Bradley-Luthy
  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:42 AM
  To: or-roots mail list
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun



  Research I back up with facks not conjecture or family lour. 

  I will send you copy of my documents.  I am not being jugemental stating facks we have 

  gone through this before if you 

  look up with government documents and court records you

  will see what I am talking about.

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: daviesw739 

    To: or-roots mail list 

    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:47 PM

    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun



    I don't know where you come up with this off the wall stuff but someone has fed you a bunch of BS about grampa's ferry.

    Walt







    In a message dated 02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, pmml at meritel.net writes:

      he was not. 

       iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 

      HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Steve & Ronda Howard 

        To: 'or-roots mail list' 

        Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM

        Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun



        Hi Walt,

        What is the book about?
        Thanks,

        Ronda




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        From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
        Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
        To: or-roots mail list

        The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.



        Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".



        Walt 



        PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From Broad1000 at aol.com  Fri Feb 26 14:02:31 2010
From: Broad1000 at aol.com (Broad1000 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:02:31 EST
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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Thanks for your comments, Vicki.  
 
Joanne B
 
 
In a message dated 2/26/2010 11:12:32 A.M. Hawaiian Standard Time,  
vkassing at mywdo.com writes:

 
Marsha, If you would  write respectfully you would get a whole lot more 
credence paid to what you  are trying to say.  
Walt has been  researching for many years (Over 10 that I know of).  He 
understands how  important the FACTS (court documents) are.  He is fortunate to 
have had  family that wrote in their journals which makes the FACTS  
interesting. 
Please quit the  hysterics and post with manners.  I don?t want to just 
delete your  postings because you might have information I can use but with 
giant sized  fonts I am deleting. 
 
Viola  Rae Kassing
-----Original  Message-----
From:  or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us  
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Marsha  Bradley-Luthy
Sent:  Friday, February 26,  2010 10:42  AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of  the Setting Sun 
 
Research I back up with facks not  conjecture or family lour. 
 
I will send you copy of my  documents.  I am not being jugemental stating 
facks we have  
 
gone through this before if you  
 
look up with government documents  and court records you
 
will see what I am talking  about.

 
----- Original Message -----  
 
From: _daviesw739_ (mailto:daviesw739 at aol.com)  
 
To: _or-roots mail list_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)   
 
Sent:  Thursday, February 25,  2010 9:47  PM
 
Subject: Re:  [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
 

 
I don't know where you come up  with this off the wall stuff but someone 
has fed you a bunch of BS about  grampa's ferry.
 
Walt
 

 

 

 
In a message dated  02/25/10 16:13:07 Pacific Standard Time, 
_pmml at meritel.net_ (mailto:pmml at meritel.net)  writes:

 
 
he was  not. 
 
iSIAH LEABO  WAS LEGAL OWNER 
 
HAVE PAPERS TO  PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR 
THE FERRY TO  iSIAH.

 
-----  Original Message ----- 
 
From: _Steve & Ronda Howard_ (mailto:whizinc at comcast.net)   
 
To: _'or-roots mail list'_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)   
 
Sent:  Tuesday, February 23,  2010 9:10  PM
 
Subject:  [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
 

Hi  Walt, 
What is the  book about?
Thanks, 
Ronda 
  
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From:  _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ 
(mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)   
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
Sent: Monday,  February 22, 2010 8:43  PM
To: or-roots mail  list 
 
The new  Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my  
gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the  Ferry.
 

 
Dan you  misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the  
"E".
 

 
Walt  
 

 
PS I still  copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I 
send online.  
 

 

 

  
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From daviesw739 at aol.com  Fri Feb 26 18:28:00 2010
From: daviesw739 at aol.com (daviesw739)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:28:00 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland, Oregon
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What year did they buy the ferry from Jimmy O'Neil.
Walt

PS O'neil came on the same train as the Matheny family 1843 how did he build all those building and a Ferry and till 50 acres for planting in 6 months.



In a message dated 02/26/10 12:45:39 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
Thanks for the link.  That agrees with the family information that I have that Matheny bought from James O'Neil (often spelled O'Neal by others).  James O'Neil went from there to built a grist mill at Ellendale in Polk Co.  After selling that, he ran a store at Tampico.

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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Fri Feb 26 18:53:33 2010
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:53:33 -0800
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Walt, this link which was provided by someone earlier today says 1844.

http://www.wheatlandferry.com/oregon/atchison.html
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  What year did they buy the ferry from Jimmy O'Neil.
  Walt

  PS O'neil came on the same train as the Matheny family 1843 how did he build all those building and a Ferry and till 50 acres for planting in 6 months.



  In a message dated 02/26/10 12:45:39 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
    Thanks for the link.  That agrees with the family information that I have that Matheny bought from James O'Neil (often spelled O'Neal by others).  James O'Neil went from there to built a grist mill at Ellendale in Polk Co.  After selling that, he ran a store at Tampico.



    Barbara Herring




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From kat1928 at integrity.com  Fri Feb 26 19:10:35 2010
From: kat1928 at integrity.com (kat1928 at integrity.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:10:35 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] Are you out there?
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I have repeatedly asked Marsha and Walt how I can obtain a copy of Walt's
book.  Nobody ever answers me!

If ther are copies available online, I would like one!

Will anyone please answer?

Dorothy Webb

kat1928 at integrity.com



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Sorry have no knowlege of Walts book?
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>I have repeatedly asked Marsha and Walt how I can obtain a copy of Walt's
> book.  Nobody ever answers me!
> 
> If ther are copies available online, I would like one!
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> Will anyone please answer?
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> Dorothy Webb
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From barbhg1221 at comcast.net  Fri Feb 26 20:07:46 2010
From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:07:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Wheatland, Oregon
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James O'Neil came to Oregon in 1834 with Nathaniel Wyeth and the Lee missionaries.? 



>From This Side of Oregon by Ralph Friedman, p 181-182: ? ?About 1835 "he took up land at what became Wheatland.? In 1844 he sold his land to Daniel Matheny."? 



The same?book states that ? in 1845?O'Neil completed the first gristmill in Polk county. The mill was on Ri ckreal Creek [near what became Ellendale].? 



O'Neil was also involved in the 1843 "Wolf" meetings at Champoeg, and his name is on the monument that commemerates those meetings at Champoeg State Park. 



Aunt Charlotte's book doesn't mention the date of the sale but says, "While we were visiting Aunt Rachel's, Father saw and arranged to buy the big Mission house that was built for Dr. David Leslie, and the section of land that it stood on.? Land was to be had anywhere for the staking of it, so it was only the house and the barns that had value to us.? Jimmy O'Neal owned it then, and Father agreed to raise and deliver fourteen hundred bushels of wheat when Mr. O'Neal put up the flour mill that he was planning on."? [I do not have a copy of the book - only a copy of a few pages].? In another place she says, "When we bought the Mission house from Jimmy O'Neal, we also bought twenty or thirty head of horses and a herd of longhorned Texas cows.? The cows were very poor milkers and most of them were wild.? The horses were small Indian ponies.? Few of them had had ever been broken to ride, and none of them could be worked or driven." 



Hope some of that helps. 

Barbara Herring 




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What year did they buy the ferry from Jimmy O'Neil. 
Walt 

PS O'neil came on the same train as the Matheny family 1843 how did he build all those building and a Ferry and till 50 acres for planting in 6 months. 



In a message dated 02/26/10 12:45:39 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes: 




Thanks for the link.? That agrees with the family information that I have that Matheny bought from James O'Neil (often spelled O'Neal by others).? James O'Neil went from there to built a grist mill at Ellendale in Polk Co.? After selling that, he ran a store at Tampico. 



Barbara Herring 

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From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com  Fri Feb 26 20:08:04 2010
From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:08:04 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Fri Feb 26 20:11:46 2010
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:11:46 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun
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Its called a peaceful debate LOL
Dan M
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  It seems to me both Walt and Marsha might want to cool off a bit with the ad hominem remarks, not just Marsha. I'm sure there's a way through this.
   
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From pmml at meritel.net  Fri Feb 26 20:18:42 2010
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:18:42 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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WILLIAM CHILDERS BORN 1828 INDIANA M. APRIL 27 1867 TO MARY LEBOW BORN JULY 29, 1830 TENNESSEE DIED JAN 28, 1867 HE THEN MARRIED ROSA JANE LEBOW (MARY'S SISTER) WHO WAS BORN ON SEPT 23, 1843 BLOUNT COUNTY, TN DIED MAY 23, 1934 IN KENSETT, AR, WHITE COUNTY
 ISHAM J LEBOW BORN FEB 25, 1808 LONE MOUNTAIN, CLAIBOURNE COUNTY, DIED AUG 10, 1886 IN LOUISVILLE, BLOUNT COUNTY, TN MARRIED ABOUT 1827 TO SARAH JANE MOORE BORN ABOUT 1807

ISHAMS PARENTS WERE JOHN JACKSON LEBOW BORN ABOUT 1792 IN TENNESSEE DIED FEB 29, 1864 IN CLAIBOURNE, TN MARRIED ABOUT 1807 TO MARY JANE JENNINGS BORN ABOUT 1795 IN TENN AND DIED AFTER JUNE 1860

Sarah Jennings married Franciosa Isiah LeBas of revolutionary fame

JOHNS PARENTS WERE HENRY LEBOW BORN ABOUT 1766 IN BERKS COUNTY PA DIED 1831 MARRIED MARY BLAIR

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  Hello, did your Mary Polly Lewis marry Samuel Martin Moore by any chance?



  And I have that Isham Leabo (b. Feb. 28, 1808 TN) married Sarah Ann Moore, daughter of David Moore and Margaret "Polly" Sherman, in Claiborne Co., TN. Can you tell me please who Isham's parents were? 



  (I descend from David's son Squire Moore and Rebecca Capps).



  Thanks,



  Paulette




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    ? 
    Isiac jasper Leabo married Ruth McCubin
    Isiac Leabo ...............Isiac Jaspers leabo father his mother Mary Polly Lewis were boone co. Kentucky
    I also have long history of Leabo line if you would like it. 
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      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
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      Marsha - 

      Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
      McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

      Thanks Nancy
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        yes
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          Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



            -----Original Message----- 
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            Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
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            he was not. 
             iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
            HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
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              Hi Walt,
              What is the book about?
              Thanks,
              Ronda



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              The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

              Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

              Walt 

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From daviesw739 at aol.com  Fri Feb 26 20:39:14 2010
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:39:14 -0800
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Sorry Barb I got O'Neil mixed up with Nezbit maybe I should read my copy of the book more often.
Walt 



In a message dated 02/26/10 20:07:55 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
James O'Neil came to Oregon in 1834 with Nathaniel Wyeth and the Lee missionaries.  

>From This Side of Oregon by Ralph Friedman, p 181-182:   About 1835 "he took up land at what became Wheatland.  In 1844 he sold his land to Daniel Matheny." 

The same book states that in 1845 O'Neil completed the first gristmill in Polk county. The mill was on Rickreal Creek [near what became Ellendale].  

O'Neil was also involved in the 1843 "Wolf" meetings at Champoeg, and his name is on the monument that commemerates those meetings at Champoeg State Park.

Aunt Charlotte's book doesn't mention the date of the sale but says, "While we were visiting Aunt Rachel's, Father saw and arranged to buy the big Mission house that was built for Dr. David Leslie, and the section of land that it stood on.  Land was to be had anywhere for the staking of it, so it was only the house and the barns that had value to us.  Jimmy O'Neal owned it then, and Father agreed to raise and deliver fourteen hundred bushels of wheat when Mr. O'Neal put up the flour mill that he was planning on."  [I do not have a copy of the book - only a copy of a few pages].  In another place she says, "When we bought the Mission house from Jimmy O'Neal, we also bought twenty or thirty head of horses and a herd of longhorned Texas cows.  The cows were very poor milkers and most of them were wild.  The horses were small Indian ponies.  Few of them had had ever been broken to ride, and none of them could be worked or driven."

Hope some of that helps.
Barbara Herring


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What year did they buy the ferry from Jimmy O'Neil.
Walt

PS O'neil came on the same train as the Matheny family 1843 how did he build all those building and a Ferry and till 50 acres for planting in 6 months.



In a message dated 02/26/10 12:45:39 Pacific Standard Time, barbhg1221 at comcast.net writes:
Thanks for the link.  That agrees with the family information that I have that Matheny bought from James O'Neil (often spelled O'Neal by others).  James O'Neil went from there to built a grist mill at Ellendale in Polk Co.  After selling that, he ran a store at Tampico.

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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Fri Feb 26 21:51:11 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:51:11 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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Marsha,

Thanks! Have you been able to traced Ruth McCubbins & her father James McCubbins back a generation or two. I know you have alot on the Leabos, but I'm searching for Ruth McCubbins grandparents on her father James McCubbins side.

Thanks, Nancy
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  In Tennesse were the Leabo's and Jennings associated with George Washington and Laffayete.  Sarah Jennings and Francios Isiach Leabas Married.  Moved to Illinoise. and from there you can find in monroe Co. The proof you 
  need.  Then Noah and 3 of his brothers moved off to Oregon 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
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    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:27 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


    Marsha - 

    Pleaseee share with me.. I would love to know the connection as I have always thought the Claiborne County, TN McCubbins & mine were related just can't prove..

    Thanks, Nancy
    nancydean at columbia-center.org
      ----- Original Message ----- 
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      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:13 PM
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      yes
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        From: Nancy Lee Adams 
        To: or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


        Marsha - 

        Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
        McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

        Thanks Nancy
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          To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
          Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


          yes
            ----- Original Message ----- 
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            Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


            Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



              -----Original Message----- 
              From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
              Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
              To: or-roots mail list 
              Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


              he was not. 
               iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
              HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
                To: 'or-roots mail list' 
                Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
                Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


                Hi Walt,
                What is the book about?
                Thanks,
                Ronda



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                The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

                Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

                Walt 

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From: pmml at meritel.net (Marsha Bradley-Luthy)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:24:10 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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I believe the MdCubins were close to the coast, can't rember if it was K falls maybe even Cresent City? oR UP BY PORTLAND IT WAS ONE OF THE TWO.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:51 PM
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  Marsha,

  Thanks! Have you been able to traced Ruth McCubbins & her father James McCubbins back a generation or two. I know you have alot on the Leabos, but I'm searching for Ruth McCubbins grandparents on her father James McCubbins side.

  Thanks, Nancy
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    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:39 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


    In Tennesse were the Leabo's and Jennings associated with George Washington and Laffayete.  Sarah Jennings and Francios Isiach Leabas Married.  Moved to Illinoise. and from there you can find in monroe Co. The proof you 
    need.  Then Noah and 3 of his brothers moved off to Oregon 

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Nancy Lee Adams 
      To: or-roots mail list 
      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:27 PM
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


      Marsha - 

      Pleaseee share with me.. I would love to know the connection as I have always thought the Claiborne County, TN McCubbins & mine were related just can't prove..

      Thanks, Nancy
      nancydean at columbia-center.org
        ----- Original Message ----- 
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        To: or-roots mail list 
        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:13 PM
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        yes
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          Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
          Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


          Marsha - 

          Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
          McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

          Thanks Nancy
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
            To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
            Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


            yes
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Paulette 
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              Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
              Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


              Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



                -----Original Message----- 
                From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
                Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
                To: or-roots mail list 
                Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


                he was not. 
                 iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
                HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
                  To: 'or-roots mail list' 
                  Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
                  Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


                  Hi Walt,
                  What is the book about?
                  Thanks,
                  Ronda



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                  From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
                  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
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                  The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

                  Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

                  Walt 

                  PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From nancydean at columbia-center.org  Sat Feb 27 18:15:43 2010
From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:15:43 -0800
Subject: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins
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Hi Marsha - 

I would love to find a living McCubbins descendant like myself that I could talk with, maybe they would know about my McCubbins ancestors. This year were having our 119th Hanson & Lavina (Wickard) Stevens reunion. Sorry to say, I am the only McCubbins descendant that goes.. That's why I'm having a hard time finding any help, the older ones are all gone.. 

Thank, Nancy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


  I believe the MdCubins were close to the coast, can't rember if it was K falls maybe even Cresent City? oR UP BY PORTLAND IT WAS ONE OF THE TWO.  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Nancy Lee Adams 
    To: or-roots mail list 
    Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:51 PM
    Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


    Marsha,

    Thanks! Have you been able to traced Ruth McCubbins & her father James McCubbins back a generation or two. I know you have alot on the Leabos, but I'm searching for Ruth McCubbins grandparents on her father James McCubbins side.

    Thanks, Nancy
      ----- Original Message ----- 
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      Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:39 PM
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      In Tennesse were the Leabo's and Jennings associated with George Washington and Laffayete.  Sarah Jennings and Francios Isiach Leabas Married.  Moved to Illinoise. and from there you can find in monroe Co. The proof you 
      need.  Then Noah and 3 of his brothers moved off to Oregon 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
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        Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:27 PM
        Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


        Marsha - 

        Pleaseee share with me.. I would love to know the connection as I have always thought the Claiborne County, TN McCubbins & mine were related just can't prove..

        Thanks, Nancy
        nancydean at columbia-center.org
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
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          Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:13 PM
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          yes
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Nancy Lee Adams 
            To: or-roots mail list 
            Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:05 PM
            Subject: Re: [or-roots] Leabo & McCubbins


            Marsha - 

            Can you relate the Leabo's of Claiborne County, TN to any of the McCubbins that lived there and Marion Co., OR. too? I know Leabo married a McCubbins in Marion Co., OR.
            McCubbins are my family in OR.. You know that already : ).

            Thanks Nancy
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
              To: Paulette ; or-roots mail list 
              Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:37 PM
              Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


              yes
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Paulette 
                To: or-roots mail list 
                Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:32 PM
                Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


                Are your Leabos from the Claiborne County, TN  area?



                  -----Original Message----- 
                  From: Marsha Bradley-Luthy 
                  Sent: Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM 
                  To: or-roots mail list 
                  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun 


                  he was not. 
                   iSIAH LEABO WAS LEGAL OWNER 
                  HAVE PAPERS TO PROVE HE LOST IN COURT HE CLAIMED TO BE ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE FERRY TO iSIAH.
                    ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: Steve & Ronda Howard 
                    To: 'or-roots mail list' 
                    Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:10 PM
                    Subject: [or-roots] Into the Eye of the Setting Sun


                    Hi Walt,
                    What is the book about?
                    Thanks,
                    Ronda



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                    From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of daviesw739
                    Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:43 PM
                    To: or-roots mail list

                    The new Ferry is called the Daniel Matheny V  it is named after my gt.gt.gt. grandfather who was one of the first owners of the Ferry.

                    Dan you misspelled my last name again, being Welsh you have to add the "E".

                    Walt 

                    PS I still copies of the book "Into the Eye of the Setting Sun" that I send online.  








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From darlene at thecasteels.net  Sun Feb 28 15:49:25 2010
From: darlene at thecasteels.net (Darlene Casteel)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:49:25 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] 2010 census
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I hope this is not a scam, but I checked the web site, and it seems to be 
valid.  I won't be around when the 2010 census would be made available for 
viewing, but some of our descendants might think it would be nice to have it 
available.

Darlene

The archivist, David S. Ferriero, can be reached by email at
 research at nara.gov.  The website listed below has addresses for others
 that you may contact.

The Census Bureau and the National Archives have agreed to throw out the
 2010 census forms after archiving statistical data. This means that
seventy-two years later genealogist will see - nothing -.

 Save 2010 Census - no images to be preserved
 http://blog.capecodgensoc.org/2010/02/save-2010-census-no-images-to-be.html