From daleharguess4 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 10:19:37 2011 From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 10:19:37 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records Message-ID: I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LinLouVan at aol.com Thu Dec 8 10:54:13 2011 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:54:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records Message-ID: <13fba.360bd30e.3c1261d5@aol.com> Dale, Here it is: _http://genealogy.state.or.us/_ (http://genealogy.state.or.us/) Linda VanOrden In a message dated 12/8/2011 10:20:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, daleharguess4 at gmail.com writes: I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LinLouVan at aol.com Thu Dec 8 10:58:37 2011 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:58:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records Message-ID: <14290.45cb78d3.3c1262dd@aol.com> Dale, Here is a link to the Oregon Death Indexes. Maybe this is the one you wanted. _http://www.deathindexes.com/oregon/index.html_ (http://www.deathindexes.com/oregon/index.html) Linda VanOrden In a message dated 12/8/2011 10:20:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, daleharguess4 at gmail.com writes: I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daleharguess4 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 11:01:06 2011 From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:01:06 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <14290.45cb78d3.3c1262dd@aol.com> References: <14290.45cb78d3.3c1262dd@aol.com> Message-ID: Thank you so much. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM, wrote: > ** > Dale, > Here is a link to the Oregon Death Indexes. Maybe this is the one you > wanted. > http://www.deathindexes.com/oregon/index.html > > Linda VanOrden > > In a message dated 12/8/2011 10:20:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > daleharguess4 at gmail.com writes: > > I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, > death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am > trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was > buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave > just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. > Thanks, > Dale in California > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) > or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) > or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Thu Dec 8 14:56:43 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:56:43 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us Thu Dec 8 15:52:20 2011 From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (SAWYER, Layne G) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 23:52:20 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> Message-ID: <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> Dale, Copies of death certificates are available from the Reference Unit here at the Archives. You can make your request via email at: reference.archives at state.or.us Regards, Layne Sawyer "list Mom" Oregon State Archives From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whizinc at comcast.net Thu Dec 8 22:24:24 2011 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Ronda Howard) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 22:24:24 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> Message-ID: <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> Hi Layne, Is there a date range for those death certificates? Are they for all counties? Thanks, Ronda From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of SAWYER, Layne G Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:52 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale, Copies of death certificates are available from the Reference Unit here at the Archives. You can make your request via email at: reference.archives at state.or.us Regards, Layne Sawyer "list Mom" Oregon State Archives From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barbhg1221 at comcast.net Thu Dec 8 22:40:03 2011 From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 06:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> Message-ID: <528569184.68267.1323412803850.JavaMail.root@sz0190a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Ronda, Death certificates are available starting in 1903.? There is a 50 year privacy rule (unless you are a close relative) so certificates through 1960 are available now.? 1961 certficates will be available in January.? In the early days, not all deaths got reported so there is not always a certificate.? Check the Oregon Death Index to determine if there is a certificate or not.? Barbara Herring ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Howard" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 10:24:24 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Hi Layne, Is there a date range for those death certificates?? Are they for all counties? Thanks, Ronda ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of SAWYER, Layne G Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:52 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records ? Dale, ? Copies of death certificates are available from the Reference Unit here at the Archives.? You can make your request via email at: ? reference.archives at state.or.us ? Regards, ? Layne Sawyer "list Mom" Oregon State Archives ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records ? Dale ? The ODI at Ancestry has: ? Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 ? If that?s the one you?re looking for. ? Pat In Tucson ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records ? I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records.? Can anyone help me out with this.? I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon.? The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Wulf at bendbroadband.com Fri Dec 9 07:10:22 2011 From: Wulf at bendbroadband.com (Barbara Wulf) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 07:10:22 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - familysearch.org In-Reply-To: <528569184.68267.1323412803850.JavaMail.root@sz0190a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <528569184.68267.1323412803850.JavaMail.root@sz0190a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998 *7 Dec 2011 familyseach.org added the Oregon Death Index on the 7th of December 2011 Barb Wulf Bend Oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daleharguess4 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 08:21:18 2011 From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:21:18 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <528569184.68267.1323412803850.JavaMail.root@sz0190a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> <528569184.68267.1323412803850.JavaMail.root@sz0190a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: It does, thank you. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Barbara Herring wrote: > Ronda, > > Death certificates are available starting in 1903. There is a 50 year > privacy rule (unless you are a close relative) so certificates through 1960 > are available now. 1961 certficates will be available in January. In the > early days, not all deaths got reported so there is not always a > certificate. Check the Oregon Death Index to determine if there is a > certificate or not. > > > Barbara Herring > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ronda Howard" > *To: *"or-roots mail list" > *Sent: *Thursday, December 8, 2011 10:24:24 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records > > Hi Layne, > > Is there a date range for those death certificates? Are they for all > counties? > > Thanks, > > Ronda > > > > *From:* or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto: > or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of *SAWYER, Layne G > *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:52 PM > *To:* or-roots mail list > *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records > > > > Dale, > > > > Copies of death certificates are available from the Reference Unit here at > the Archives. You can make your request via email at: > > > > reference.archives at state.or.us > > > > Regards, > > > > Layne Sawyer > > "list Mom" > > Oregon State Archives > > > > *From:* or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto: > or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of *Kith-n-Kin > *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM > *To:* 'or-roots mail list' > *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records > > > > Dale > > > > The ODI at Ancestry has: > > > > Name: > > *Elizabeth Dillon* > > Death Date: > > 6 Nov 1940 > > Death Place: > > Tillamook > > Spouse: > > Barclay > > Certificate: > > 104 > > > > If that?s the one you?re looking for. > > > > Pat > > In Tucson > > > > *From:* or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of *Dale > Harguess > *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM > *To:* or-roots mail list > *Subject:* [or-roots] Oregon death records > > > > I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, > death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am > trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was > buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave > just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. > > Thanks, > > Dale in California > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) > or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) > or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us Fri Dec 9 08:30:44 2011 From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (SAWYER, Layne G) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:30:44 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> Message-ID: <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> Ronda, They are available for all counties from 1903-1960. The certificates for 1961 will be available on January 3rd. Layne From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Ronda Howard Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:24 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Hi Layne, Is there a date range for those death certificates? Are they for all counties? Thanks, Ronda From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of SAWYER, Layne G Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:52 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale, Copies of death certificates are available from the Reference Unit here at the Archives. You can make your request via email at: reference.archives at state.or.us Regards, Layne Sawyer "list Mom" Oregon State Archives From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daleharguess4 at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 08:45:09 2011 From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:45:09 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - familysearch.org In-Reply-To: References: <528569184.68267.1323412803850.JavaMail.root@sz0190a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Thank you, now if they would just make their filters work better........ On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Barbara Wulf wrote: > ** > Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998 > * **7 Dec 2011 > > familyseach.org added the Oregon Death Index on the 7th of December 2011 > > Barb Wulf > Bend Oregon > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) > or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Fri Dec 9 08:51:44 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:51:44 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> Message-ID: <00f001ccb692$d501fee0$7f05fca0$@net> A word of caution. My grandfather, a resident of Jackson County, Oregon, died in Coconino County, Arizona, in 1960. The county listed on the Death Index is ?2?, which is Benton County. The reason for the DC in Oregon, I would guess, had to do with the probate. How they got Benton out of that, however, I don?t know. There does not appear to be an ?out of state? code, but why pick Benton instead of Jackson (15), where the ?home place? was? For those who would like the county code list, here it is: http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Dec 9 08:54:50 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:54:50 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> Message-ID: <4EE23D5A.1040004@ccountry.net> I have a question and wondered if anyone has a possible explanation. I recently got a 1960 death certificate. In block 30A. Deceased will be Buried, cremated, removed or other and the OTHER box is checked. I've tried to think of what other possibility that might be -- any ideas. Sue On 12/9/2011 8:30 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote: > > Ronda, > > They are available for all counties from 1903-1960. The certificates > for 1961 will be available on January 3rd. > > Layne > > *From:*or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of > *Ronda Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:24 PM > *To:* 'or-roots mail list' > *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From newcombg at science.oregonstate.edu Fri Dec 9 09:00:55 2011 From: newcombg at science.oregonstate.edu (Gene Newcomb) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:00:55 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <4EE23D5A.1040004@ccountry.net> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <4EE23D5A.1040004@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <000c01ccb694$1d5f9480$581ebd80$@oregonstate.edu> This is just a guess, but perhaps the person's body was donated to the medical school. Somehow "Removed" might fit that situation, but who knows. Gene From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 8:55 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have a question and wondered if anyone has a possible explanation. I recently got a 1960 death certificate. In block 30A. Deceased will be Buried, cremated, removed or other and the OTHER box is checked. I've tried to think of what other possibility that might be -- any ideas. Sue On 12/9/2011 8:30 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote: Ronda, They are available for all counties from 1903-1960. The certificates for 1961 will be available on January 3rd. Layne From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Ronda Howard Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:24 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Dec 9 09:06:24 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 09:06:24 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <000c01ccb694$1d5f9480$581ebd80$@oregonstate.edu> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <4EE23D5A.1040004@ccountry.net> <000c01ccb694$1d5f9480$581ebd80$@oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <4EE24010.5000005@ccountry.net> Thanks, that makes sense as a possibility. I would assume "Removed" would mean it was transferred from one mortuary to another. Sue On 12/9/2011 9:00 AM, Gene Newcomb wrote: > > This is just a guess, but perhaps the person's body was donated to the > medical school. Somehow "Removed" might fit that situation, but who knows. > > Gene > > *From:*or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of *Sue > Steward > *Sent:* Friday, December 09, 2011 8:55 AM > *To:* or-roots mail list > *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records > > I have a question and wondered if anyone has a possible explanation. > I recently got a 1960 death certificate. In block 30A. Deceased will > be Buried, cremated, removed or other and the OTHER box is checked. > I've tried to think of what other possibility that might be -- any ideas. > > Sue > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LinLouVan at aol.com Fri Dec 9 09:45:13 2011 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:45:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records Message-ID: <12a22.2b482540.3c13a329@aol.com> Pat, This website is not opening for me. Is anyone else having trouble with it? Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 8:52:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: A word of caution. My grandfather, a resident of Jackson County, Oregon, died in Coconino County, Arizona, in 1960. The county listed on the Death Index is ?2?, which is Benton County. The reason for the DC in Oregon, I would guess, had to do with the probate. How they got Benton out of that, however, I don?t know. There does not appear to be an ?out of state? code, but why pick Benton instead of Jackson (15), where the ?home place? was? For those who would like the county code list, here it is: _http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml_ (http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml) Pat In Tucson From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) _[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]_ (mailto:[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]) On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) _[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]_ (mailto:[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]) On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsam52 at sampubco.com Fri Dec 9 10:20:47 2011 From: dsam52 at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 11:20:47 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - familysearch.org In-Reply-To: References: <528569184.68267.1323412803850.JavaMail.root@sz0190a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4EE2517F.5000902@sampubco.com> they already did. Go to specific database you want. you will see "add a life event: Any | Birth | Marriage | Residence | Death and "Add a relationship: Spouse | Parents" What's surprising about these is that you can add filters, all or selective. Better than Ancestry's own convulted search terms. W. David Samuelsen On 12/9/2011 9:45 AM, Dale Harguess wrote: > Thank you, now if they would just make their filters work better........ > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Barbara Wulf wrote: > >> ** >> Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998 >> * **7 Dec 2011 >> >> familyseach.org added the Oregon Death Index on the 7th of December 2011 >> >> Barb Wulf >> Bend Oregon >> >> _____________________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for >> content. >> Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) >> or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >> Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. >> >> > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From lechevrier at q.com Fri Dec 9 11:09:56 2011 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 11:09:56 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - Other In-Reply-To: <4EE23D5A.1040004@ccountry.net> References: <006101ccb5fc$a778f550$f66adff0$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901CD0@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <01e101ccb63b$324fd480$96ef7d80$@net> <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE04615901D5A@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> <4EE23D5A.1040004@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <4EE25D04.4010003@q.com> The bodies of Mecical donors are returned for burial. Even cadavers are only kept a couple years before they too are returned. I would think "Lost" could be another choice, where the deceased's body was never recovered -- foul play, ocean drownings, accidents in space travel, poor mortuary record keeping ... Bill Strickland From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Fri Dec 9 14:31:13 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:31:13 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <12a22.2b482540.3c13a329@aol.com> References: <12a22.2b482540.3c13a329@aol.com> Message-ID: <013601ccb6c2$42164c50$c642e4f0$@net> Sorry, Linda Try this http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/ccnames.cfml Then, to get the whole list, click in the box that says ?Enter county code? and erase anything in the box, so it is blank. Then, click on ?look up codes.? This gets you the entire list. Otherwise, if you already have a code, put that code in the box. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:45 AM To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Pat, This website is not opening for me. Is anyone else having trouble with it? Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 8:52:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: A word of caution. My grandfather, a resident of Jackson County, Oregon, died in Coconino County, Arizona, in 1960. The county listed on the Death Index is ?2?, which is Benton County. The reason for the DC in Oregon, I would guess, had to do with the probate. How they got Benton out of that, however, I don?t know. There does not appear to be an ?out of state? code, but why pick Benton instead of Jackson (15), where the ?home place? was? For those who would like the county code list, here it is: http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LinLouVan at aol.com Fri Dec 9 14:42:33 2011 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:42:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records Message-ID: <10e3d.3c81978d.3c13e8d9@aol.com> Thank you, Pat. That works. Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 2:31:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: Sorry, Linda Try this _http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/ccnames.cfml_ (http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/ccnames.cfml) Then, to get the whole list, click in the box that says ?Enter county code? and erase anything in the box, so it is blank. Then, click on ?look up codes.? This gets you the entire list. Otherwise, if you already have a code, put that code in the box. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:45 AM To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Pat, This website is not opening for me. Is anyone else having trouble with it? Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 8:52:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: A word of caution. My grandfather, a resident of Jackson County, Oregon, died in Coconino County, Arizona, in 1960. The county listed on the Death Index is ?2?, which is Benton County. The reason for the DC in Oregon, I would guess, had to do with the probate. How they got Benton out of that, however, I don?t know. There does not appear to be an ?out of state? code, but why pick Benton instead of Jackson (15), where the ?home place? was? For those who would like the county code list, here it is: _http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml_ (http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml) Pat In Tucson From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) _[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]_ (mailto:[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]) On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) _[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]_ (mailto:[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]) On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Dec 9 14:46:34 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:46:34 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <10e3d.3c81978d.3c13e8d9@aol.com> References: <10e3d.3c81978d.3c13e8d9@aol.com> Message-ID: <4EE28FCA.6090508@ccountry.net> Well, how do you erase anything in the box, I used delete and also backspace but no luck. On 12/9/2011 2:42 PM, LinLouVan at aol.com wrote: > Thank you, Pat. > That works. > Linda > In a message dated 12/9/2011 2:31:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: > > Sorry, Linda > > Try this > > http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/ccnames.cfml > > Then, to get the whole list, click in the box that says "Enter > county code" and erase anything in the box, so it is blank. Then, > click on "look up codes." This gets you the entire list. > > Otherwise, if you already have a code, put that code in the box. > > Pat > > *From:*or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of > *LinLouVan at aol.com > *Sent:* Friday, December 09, 2011 10:45 AM > *To:* or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records > > Pat, > > This website is not opening for me. Is anyone else having trouble > with it? > > Linda > > In a message dated 12/9/2011 8:52:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: > > A word of caution. My grandfather, a resident of Jackson > County, Oregon, died in Coconino County, Arizona, in 1960. The > county listed on the Death Index is "2", which is Benton County. > > The reason for the DC in Oregon, I would guess, had to do with > the probate. How they got Benton out of that, however, I don't > know. There does not appear to be an "out of state" code, but > why pick Benton instead of Jackson (15), where the "home > place" was? > > For those who would like the county code list, here it is: > > http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml > > Pat > > In Tucson > > *From:*or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] > > *On Behalf Of *Kith-n-Kin > *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM > *To:* 'or-roots mail list' > *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records > > Dale > > The ODI at Ancestry has: > > Name: > > > > *Elizabeth Dillon* > > Death Date: > > > > 6 Nov 1940 > > Death Place: > > > > Tillamook > > Spouse: > > > > Barclay > > Certificate: > > > > 104 > > If that's the one you're looking for. > > Pat > > In Tucson > > *From:*or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] > > *On Behalf Of *Dale Harguess > *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM > *To:* or-roots mail list > *Subject:* [or-roots] Oregon death records > > I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for > looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone > help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death > date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the > Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave > just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. > > Thanks, > > Dale in California > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not > responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to > list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Fri Dec 9 14:53:54 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 15:53:54 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records In-Reply-To: <4EE28FCA.6090508@ccountry.net> References: <10e3d.3c81978d.3c13e8d9@aol.com> <4EE28FCA.6090508@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <015601ccb6c5$723796c0$56a6c440$@net> Sue I just put the cursor in the box and hit delete. I can't say why it doesn't work. Are you sure you are putting it in the "county code" box and not one of the others? Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:47 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Well, how do you erase anything in the box, I used delete and also backspace but no luck. On 12/9/2011 2:42 PM, LinLouVan at aol.com wrote: Thank you, Pat. That works. Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 2:31:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: Sorry, Linda Try this http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/ccnames.cfml Then, to get the whole list, click in the box that says "Enter county code" and erase anything in the box, so it is blank. Then, click on "look up codes." This gets you the entire list. Otherwise, if you already have a code, put that code in the box. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of LinLouVan at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:45 AM To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Pat, This website is not opening for me. Is anyone else having trouble with it? Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 8:52:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Kith-n-Kin at cox.net writes: A word of caution. My grandfather, a resident of Jackson County, Oregon, died in Coconino County, Arizona, in 1960. The county listed on the Death Index is "2", which is Benton County. The reason for the DC in Oregon, I would guess, had to do with the probate. How they got Benton out of that, however, I don't know. There does not appear to be an "out of state" code, but why pick Benton instead of Jackson (15), where the "home place" was? For those who would like the county code list, here it is: http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that's the one you're looking for. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. Thanks, Dale in California _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LinLouVan at aol.com Fri Dec 9 21:24:04 2011 From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:24:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records Message-ID: <76a3.7e8dafc7.3c1446f4@aol.com> The "County Code" box, the bottom box is the only one it will work on. And, then you get not only county codes but also city codes. Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 2:46:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ssteward at ccountry.net writes: Well, how do you erase anything in the box, I used delete and also backspace but no luck. On 12/9/2011 2:42 PM, _LinLouVan at aol.com_ (mailto:LinLouVan at aol.com) wrote: Thank you, Pat. That works. Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 2:31:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _Kith-n-Kin at cox.net_ (mailto:Kith-n-Kin at cox.net) writes: Sorry, Linda Try this _http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/ccnames.cfml_ (http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/ccnames.cfml) Then, to get the whole list, click in the box that says ?Enter county code? and erase anything in the box, so it is blank. Then, click on ?look up codes.? This gets you the entire list. Otherwise, if you already have a code, put that code in the box. Pat From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) [_mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) ] On Behalf Of _LinLouVan at aol.com_ (mailto:LinLouVan at aol.com) Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:45 AM To: _or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Pat, This website is not opening for me. Is anyone else having trouble with it? Linda In a message dated 12/9/2011 8:52:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, _Kith-n-Kin at cox.net_ (mailto:Kith-n-Kin at cox.net) writes: A word of caution. My grandfather, a resident of Jackson County, Oregon, died in Coconino County, Arizona, in 1960. The county listed on the Death Index is ?2?, which is Benton County. The reason for the DC in Oregon, I would guess, had to do with the probate. How they got Benton out of that, however, I don?t know. There does not appear to be an ?out of state? code, but why pick Benton instead of Jackson (15), where the ?home place? was? & For those who would like the county code list, here it is: _http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml_ (http://www.dhs.state.or.us/dhs/doweb/ccnames/code_results.cfml) Pat In Tucson From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) _[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]_ (mailto:[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]) On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 2:57 PM To: 'or-roots mail list' Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records Dale The ODI at Ancestry has: Name: Elizabeth Dillon Death Date: 6 Nov 1940 Death Place: Tillamook Spouse: Barclay Certificate: 104 If that?s the one you?re looking for. Pat In Tucson From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) _[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]_ (mailto:[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us]) On Behalf Of Dale Harguess Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:20 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records I have managed to lose my link to the State Archives for looking up birth, death, marriage, etc. records. Can anyone help me out with this. I am trying to find the actual death date of an Elizabeth Haworth Dillon who was buried in the Friends Cemetery in Yamhill County Oregon. The findagrave just gives 1940 and I would like to have the actual death date. 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Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com Fri Dec 9 22:56:06 2011 From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 22:56:06 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - Other Message-ID: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Some bodies of medical "donors" might not have been returned if they were ones who died on a poor farm. -----Original Message----- >From: Bill & Chris Strickland >Sent: Dec 9, 2011 11:09 AM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records - Other > >The bodies of Mecical donors are returned for burial. Even cadavers are >only kept a couple years before they too are returned. > >I would think "Lost" could be another choice, where the deceased's body >was never recovered -- foul play, ocean drownings, accidents in space >travel, poor mortuary record keeping ... > >Bill Strickland >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com Fri Dec 9 23:52:22 2011 From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 23:52:22 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - familysearch.org Message-ID: <5021259.1323503542676.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks again, David - that's really true! -----Original Message----- >From: W David Samuelsen >Sent: Dec 9, 2011 10:20 AM >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon death records - familysearch.org > >they already did. > >Go to specific database you want. > >you will see "add a life event: Any | Birth | Marriage | Residence | Death > >and > >"Add a relationship: Spouse | Parents" > >What's surprising about these is that you can add filters, all or >selective. Better than Ancestry's own convulted search terms. > >W. David Samuelsen > >On 12/9/2011 9:45 AM, Dale Harguess wrote: >> Thank you, now if they would just make their filters work better........ >> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Barbara Wulf wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Oregon, Death Index, 1903-1998 >>> * **7 Dec 2011 >>> >>> familyseach.org added the Oregon Death Index on the 7th of December 2011 >>> >>> Barb Wulf >>> Bend Oregon >>> >>> _____________________________________________________ >>> or-roots mailing list >>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >>> Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for >>> content. >>> Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) >>> or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >>> Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >> Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >> Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From lechevrier at q.com Fri Dec 9 23:58:38 2011 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 23:58:38 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - Other In-Reply-To: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> > Some bodies of medical "donors" might not have been returned if they were ones who died on a poor farm. Okay, I guess I was thinking in more modern terms, when medical students didn't have to dig up their own cadavers -- medical donations and "poor farms" probably did not have a big overlap, time wise. I was speaking more to "possible" uses of the "Other" check box in terms of lost bodies. Bill Strickland From ssteward at ccountry.net Sat Dec 10 06:31:29 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 06:31:29 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon death records - Other In-Reply-To: <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> Message-ID: <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> I am not positive about her whole situation but she lived in Kansas. I believe she was in Portland visiting her son who was the informant on the death certificate. But the donation of her body to medical science seems a real possibility to me. She was not on a poor farm. I _think _that after the body has been donated, the institution takes care of the cremation and disposal of the ashes after they complete their study. Thanks for all your help. Sue On 12/9/2011 11:58 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: > > Okay, I guess I was thinking in more modern terms, when medical > students didn't have to dig up their own cadavers -- medical donations > and "poor farms" probably did not have a big overlap, time wise. > > I was speaking more to "possible" uses of the "Other" check box in > terms of lost bodies. > > Bill Strickland > _____________________________________________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 10 08:12:15 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:12:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] familysearch.org and filters In-Reply-To: <4EE2517F.5000902@sampubco.com> Message-ID: <1323533535.34819.YahooMailClassic@web160902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> David;? my experience with Family search filters is pretty spotty; I find about half the time if I specify I only want "exact match" for a term, I get no such record even though when I have 4 thousand matches I see one on the first page that has the very name I am seeking. I do think they are getting better though as I seem to be having better luck with it this week. I have much better luck filtering by time frame to narrow it down. Ironically last night I was searching a non Oregon guy I had snuck some help from the list for a few years back, Family search gives me 3079 hits if I search him?unfiltered?and only 9 if I specify his exact given name, two of which are actually the guy I want. If I filter by spouse given name I get no matches even though her given name is listed in their index entry for the 1870 Census. Apparently the filter doesn't recognize any relationship for that Census? I am certainly not going to look a gift horse in the mouth even though at times it is frustrating New Family search now convinces me I will never finish the details on the people already in my family file, let alone get all the individuals members of my key surnames I would like to find. Les C >they already did. Go to specific database you want. you will see "add a life event: Any | Birth | Marriage | Residence | Death and "Add a relationship: Spouse | Parents" What's surprising about these is that you can add filters, all or? selective. Better than Ancestry's own convulted search terms. W. David Samuelsen < -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 10 08:40:29 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:40:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] familysearch.org and filters In-Reply-To: <1323533535.34819.YahooMailClassic@web160902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1323535229.35357.YahooMailClassic@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ?I just realized I should suggest my favorite trick with Family Search; I start out by searching for just plain Mary, which gives you a gazillion hits, then I go down the page to where you see "Collections" which you can click on and get a whole list of options. Of course if you are looking for one of the other options; Census, military whatever ?you click on that, but usually I am just after the basics birth, marriage and death. so I select that and a secondary linke will show up under "collections" then I click on that and a huge menu will show up on the right; What I like to do is scroll down to the state I am interested in searching in and opening each option in a tab of it's own by order birth, marriage and death. Then I try like the dickens to keep from closing the main window in each of those as I search by opening anything that looks?interesting?in a tab of its own. If you have limited computer resources that may not be an option. My machine starts to slow down at about 15 tabs plus google earth, FTM ?and a word file or two. Of course if one of those is more than 50 pages that definitely slows me down and having 4 or 5 books open as pdfs adds to the sluggishness, but if you have a little patience it works. Of course if your information is not there, all these tricks won't work.? Also I should mention that apparently some of the data bases you will find include information gleaned from IGI files. I have been trying for several days to reconcile what I find in various vital records publication with the answers Family Search is giving me when I noticed that information about the Massachusetts databases. It explains why the only place I find some of the information showing up on family search is in other people's genealogies. Les C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lechevrier at q.com Sat Dec 10 21:25:04 2011 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:25:04 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> Does anyone know the actual origins of this almost seemingly "boiler plate" quote that appears all over the internet, occasionally ascribed to the obsolete website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm and never listed with an actual Source? " The winter of 1708-1709 was very long and cold in the Rhineland. It was a very bleak period ... " How's that for a change of Subject? Bill Strickland From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Sun Dec 11 06:47:08 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:47:08 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> Message-ID: <01e601ccb813$c23563b0$46a02b10$@net> Don't know the source of the quotation, but details can be found by Googling Little ice age Europe Here's a simple explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bill & Chris Strickland Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:25 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] Palatines Does anyone know the actual origins of this almost seemingly "boiler plate" quote that appears all over the internet, occasionally ascribed to the obsolete website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm and never listed with an actual Source? " The winter of 1708-1709 was very long and cold in the Rhineland. It was a very bleak period ... " How's that for a change of Subject? Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From opera_70 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 11 09:24:45 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:24:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> Message-ID: <1323624285.19150.YahooMailClassic@web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The term Palatinate appears in the history of my Tack family quite often and I never really had a clue as to the origin. A discussion of that on this page; http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ote/palalist.htm includes your "boiler plate' comment with out any amplification to speak of. There are a lot of ships that seemed to bring immigrants associated with the above cold snap and I suppose my Tacks are on one of them, but I don't see any search opportunity except through Ancestry.com so will give that a miss. Anyway I probably have the name of the ship somewhere in my mountain of information that I keep ignoring while searching for more. Les C --- On Sat, 12/10/11, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: From: Bill & Chris Strickland Subject: [or-roots] Palatines To: "or-roots mail list" Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 9:25 PM Does anyone know the actual origins of this almost seemingly "boiler plate" quote? that appears all over the internet, occasionally ascribed to the obsolete website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm and never listed with an actual Source? ???" The winter of 1708-1709 was very long and cold in the Rhineland. It was a very bleak period ... " How's that for a change of Subject? Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daviesw739 at aol.com Sun Dec 11 09:52:20 2011 From: daviesw739 at aol.com (Walter Davies) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:52:20 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> Message-ID: <23AF814B-A366-4B83-9667-D1C7D3A80123@aol.com> My Quattlebaum family came from That area in 1733 settling in Penn. Them moving south to the Caralinas. Walt Davies On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: > Does anyone know the actual origins of this almost seemingly "boiler plate" quote that appears all over the internet, occasionally ascribed to the obsolete website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm and never listed with an actual Source? > > " The winter of 1708-1709 was very long and cold in the Rhineland. It was a very bleak period ... " > > How's that for a change of Subject? > > Bill Strickland > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From vkassing at minn.net Sun Dec 11 10:31:26 2011 From: vkassing at minn.net (ViolaRae Kassing) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:31:26 -0600 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <23AF814B-A366-4B83-9667-D1C7D3A80123@aol.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> <23AF814B-A366-4B83-9667-D1C7D3A80123@aol.com> Message-ID: <01b401ccb833$1841cc70$48c56550$@net> Good to hear from you Walt. I've been thinking about those roses of yours. When you get around to pruning them this spring I'd sure like some cuttings. Oops, many may not know Walt has vintage roses from way back in them there days! ViolaRae -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Walter Davies Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:52 AM To: or-roots mail list Cc: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] Palatines My Quattlebaum family came from That area in 1733 settling in Penn. Them moving south to the Caralinas. Walt Davies On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: > Does anyone know the actual origins of this almost seemingly "boiler plate" quote that appears all over the internet, occasionally ascribed to the obsolete website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm and never listed with an actual Source? > > " The winter of 1708-1709 was very long and cold in the Rhineland. It was a very bleak period ... " > > How's that for a change of Subject? > > Bill Strickland > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From daviesw739 at aol.com Sun Dec 11 11:09:56 2011 From: daviesw739 at aol.com (Walter Davies) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:09:56 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <01b401ccb833$1841cc70$48c56550$@net> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> <23AF814B-A366-4B83-9667-D1C7D3A80123@aol.com> <01b401ccb833$1841cc70$48c56550$@net> Message-ID: <96E9B2B6-A49F-49D4-B454-A9C8A70947A4@aol.com> I should be pruning in February just let me know who an how many are wanted. Walt Davies Monmouth, Or On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:31 AM, "ViolaRae Kassing" wrote: > Good to hear from you Walt. I've been thinking about those roses of yours. > When you get around to pruning them this spring I'd sure like some cuttings. > > Oops, many may not know Walt has vintage roses from way back in them there > days! > > ViolaRae > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Walter > Davies > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:52 AM > To: or-roots mail list > Cc: or-roots mail list > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Palatines > > My Quattlebaum family came from That area in 1733 settling in Penn. Them > moving south to the Caralinas. > Walt Davies > > > > > On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland > wrote: > >> Does anyone know the actual origins of this almost seemingly "boiler > plate" quote that appears all over the internet, occasionally ascribed to > the obsolete website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm > and never listed with an actual Source? >> >> " The winter of 1708-1709 was very long and cold in the Rhineland. It > was a very bleak period ... " >> >> How's that for a change of Subject? >> >> Bill Strickland >> _____________________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. >> Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) > or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >> Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or > the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 11 15:30:40 2011 From: rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com (Robyn Greenlund) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> Message-ID: <1323646240.20636.YahooMailNeo@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I wasn't able to find a source for the material, but I was able to find a copy of the original webpage on the Wayback machine here: http://web.archive.org/web/20030622133446/http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm The author was Kraig W. Ruckel,? but I wasn't able to find any recent information on him. I did find another source for information,Palatine German Immigration & Genealogy[http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/palatines/index.shtml] with someone who may be able to help you identify where Kraig sourced his information. ? Robyn rgreenlund61 at yahoo.com Interested in Coos County?History? See what's online at genealogytrails.com,?coquillevalley.org, or?orgenweb.org ________________________________ From: Bill & Chris Strickland To: or-roots mail list Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:25 PM Subject: [or-roots] Palatines Does anyone know the actual origins of this almost seemingly "boiler plate" quote? that appears all over the internet, occasionally ascribed to the obsolete website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm and never listed with an actual Source? ? " The winter of 1708-1709 was very long and cold in the Rhineland. It was a very bleak period ... " How's that for a change of Subject? Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 12 20:21:25 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:21:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] World geography question Message-ID: <1323750085.58669.YahooMailClassic@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I thought I was pretty good on this subject, but researching some in-laws of distant cousins in New Hampshire I ran across a reference that puzzles me.? It is a birth place listing (actually under residence but since I believe both he and his wife are gone by 1891 I assume it is birthplace) and it looks like it says "Hatley P. 2" except the "2" has a period after it (maybe?)which means it might be a Q. In the 1860 census his birth is listed as Lower Canada (I think) and in 1850 as New Hampshire just to confuse things. Going to Google earth I find Hatley in an administrative district that appears to be?analogous?to our counties (Memphremagog) which is just barely in Canada in the corner where NH and Vermont and Quebec all meet, but what I am curious about is in the GE listing, there seems to be another administrative level (or 2) between Memphremagog and Quebec. Specifically it is listed;?Hatley, QC J0B, Canada Maybe the Q is Quebec, but what the heck is JOB If anyone wants to see the image it is at; https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12391-287183-29?cc=1520640&wc=7131574 Les C From whizinc at comcast.net Mon Dec 12 21:02:01 2011 From: whizinc at comcast.net (Ronda Howard) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:02:01 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] familysearch.org and filters In-Reply-To: <1323535229.35357.YahooMailClassic@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1323533535.34819.YahooMailClassic@web160902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1323535229.35357.YahooMailClassic@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000601ccb954$59e5b700$0db12500$@net> Thanks Les, I try not to complain to my techie husband when my computer is slow and I have 15 tabs open, FTM, email, and a few other things. I sure wish I could find some of the original information I find on other people's genealogies. Some of it is very interesting, or another generation back, but they don't know where the information came from. Ronda From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:40 AM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] familysearch.org and filters I just realized I should suggest my favorite trick with Family Search; I start out by searching for just plain Mary, which gives you a gazillion hits, then I go down the page to where you see "Collections" which you can click on and get a whole list of options. Of course if you are looking for one of the other options; Census, military whatever you click on that, but usually I am just after the basics birth, marriage and death. so I select that and a secondary linke will show up under "collections" then I click on that and a huge menu will show up on the right; What I like to do is scroll down to the state I am interested in searching in and opening each option in a tab of it's own by order birth, marriage and death. Then I try like the dickens to keep from closing the main window in each of those as I search by opening anything that looks interesting in a tab of its own. If you have limited computer resources that may not be an option. My machine starts to slow down at about 15 tabs plus google earth, FTM and a word file or two. Of course if one of those is more than 50 pages that definitely slows me down and having 4 or 5 books open as pdfs adds to the sluggishness, but if you have a little patience it works. Of course if your information is not there, all these tricks won't work. Also I should mention that apparently some of the data bases you will find include information gleaned from IGI files. I have been trying for several days to reconcile what I find in various vital records publication with the answers Family Search is giving me when I noticed that information about the Massachusetts databases. It explains why the only place I find some of the information showing up on family search is in other people's genealogies. Les C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is a birth place listing (actually under residence but since I believe both he and his wife are gone by 1891 I assume it is birthplace) and it looks like it says "Hatley P. 2" except the "2" has a period after it (maybe?)which means it might be a Q. In the 1860 census his birth is listed as Lower Canada (I think) and in 1850 as New Hampshire just to confuse things. Going to Google earth I find Hatley in an administrative district that appears to be?analogous?to our counties (Memphremagog) which is just barely in Canada in the corner where NH and Vermont and Quebec all meet, but what I am curious about is in the GE listing, there seems to be another administrative level (or 2) between Memphremagog and Quebec. Specifically it is listed;?Hatley, QC J0B, Canada Maybe the Q is Quebec, but what the heck is JOB If anyone wants to see the image it is at; https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12391-287183-29?cc=1520640&wc=7131574 Les C _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 13 15:19:55 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Original info and Family Search In-Reply-To: <000601ccb954$59e5b700$0db12500$@net> Message-ID: <1323818395.12813.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Ronda;?that is one of the thrills of ?using Family Search is I am finding a lot of the source material for my family histories that I had not seen referenced or had long since lost track of what the person I got the information from had for sources. I often extract reports from other peoples gedcoms to get to the meat of what I am interested in and many times for whatever reason I don't get the information that way to tell me what their sources were, or sometimes I just rely on the person to be competent. ? I have been seeing a lot of hits where one of my "reliable" sources obviously got his information from and have seen a few times where either I transcribed it wrong or he did. (haven't gone back to check yet) or else the material I am getting from Family search is one step removed one way or another from his. A lot of what I am finding on Family search is transcribed from original city records about a hundred years ago and I am really curious if any of those city records are still around to cross check, not that I'll ever have the resource to do so if they are. I often wish the person transcribing had taken a little more care with his or her penmanship or had used a writing implement with greater durability. Oh well, there I go looking gift horses in the mouth again. Also Family search is adding more stuff all the time and they have a call for volunteers so if you have lots of free time (HA! HA!) I am sure they would welcome your?assistance. Maybe you could index records in the area you are looking for stuff? Les C >Thanks Les,I try not to complain to my techie husband when my computer is slow and I have 15 tabs open, FTM, email, and a few other things.?I sure wish I could find some of the original information I find on other people?s genealogies.? Some of it is very interesting, or another generation back, but they don?t know where the information came from.Ronda< -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(c) Kaprice x=e From lechevrier at q.com Wed Dec 14 20:20:26 2011 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:20:26 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <1323646240.20636.YahooMailNeo@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> <1323646240.20636.YahooMailNeo@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EE9758A.4010405@q.com> On 12/11/2011 3:30 PM, Robyn Greenlund wrote: > I wasn't able to find a source for the material, but I was able to > find a copy of the original webpage on the Wayback machine here: > http://web.archive.org/web/20030622133446/http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm Thank you for the link, Robyn -- Nice to see it with Kraig claiming the copyright -- I'm not sure if he didn't find it elsewhere, but more on that when I know -- I have to get to a location with an Ancestry subscription first. 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Sue On 12/14/2011 8:20 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: > On 12/11/2011 3:30 PM, Robyn Greenlund wrote: >> I wasn't able to find a source for the material, but I was able to >> find a copy of the original webpage on the Wayback machine here: >> http://web.archive.org/web/20030622133446/http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm > > Thank you for the link, Robyn -- Nice to see it with Kraig claiming > the copyright -- I'm not sure if he didn't find it elsewhere, but more > on that when I know -- I have to get to a location with an Ancestry > subscription first. > > Thanks, > > Bill Strickland > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dsam52 at sampubco.com Wed Dec 14 22:44:19 2011 From: dsam52 at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:44:19 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EE9758A.4010405@q.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> <1323646240.20636.YahooMailNeo@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4EE9758A.4010405@q.com> Message-ID: <4EE99743.1080805@sampubco.com> I see 3955 was not saved in Reocities.com then Wayback is only one with the info. David S. On 12/14/2011 9:20 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: > On 12/11/2011 3:30 PM, Robyn Greenlund wrote: >> I wasn't able to find a source for the material, but I was able to >> find a copy of the original webpage on the Wayback machine here: >> http://web.archive.org/web/20030622133446/http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm >> > > Thank you for the link, Robyn -- Nice to see it with Kraig claiming the > copyright -- I'm not sure if he didn't find it elsewhere, but more on > that when I know -- I have to get to a location with an Ancestry > subscription first. > > Thanks, > > Bill Strickland > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From ssteward at ccountry.net Thu Dec 15 07:50:10 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:50:10 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EE99743.1080805@sampubco.com> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> <1323646240.20636.YahooMailNeo@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4EE9758A.4010405@q.com> <4EE99743.1080805@sampubco.com> Message-ID: <4EEA1732.40702@ccountry.net> My husband has Straub immigrants who came from Germany during this time period. I contacted Diana Gale Matthiesen who has done a lot of research on the Straubs and this is how she responded. This may give you a different source to check out. The author of this page is mixing up different waves of immigration. There was, indeed, a wave of Palatine Germans who migrated to London in 1709, then from there, on to *New York* in 1710. Their story is told in a 1937 book by Walter Allen Knittle entitled, "Early Eighteenth Century Palatine Emigration: a British Government Redemptioner Project to Manufacture Naval Stores" (Dorrance& Co., Philadelphia). On 12/14/2011 10:44 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > I see 3955 was not saved in Reocities.com then Wayback is only one > with the info. > > David S. > > On 12/14/2011 9:20 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: >> On 12/11/2011 3:30 PM, Robyn Greenlund wrote: >>> I wasn't able to find a source for the material, but I was able to >>> find a copy of the original webpage on the Wayback machine here: >>> http://web.archive.org/web/20030622133446/http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/palatine.htm >>> >>> >> >> Thank you for the link, Robyn -- Nice to see it with Kraig claiming the >> copyright -- I'm not sure if he didn't find it elsewhere, but more on >> that when I know -- I have to get to a location with an Ancestry >> subscription first. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill Strickland >> >> >> From daleharguess4 at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 08:04:31 2011 From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:04:31 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Palatines In-Reply-To: <4EEA1732.40702@ccountry.net> References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> <1323646240.20636.YahooMailNeo@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4EE9758A.4010405@q.com> <4EE99743.1080805@sampubco.com> <4EEA1732.40702@ccountry.net> Message-ID: There are also the Hank Jones Palatine books which he specializes in and has won many awards for. You can go to his website to learn more. Dale On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Sue Steward wrote: > My husband has Straub immigrants who came from Germany during this time > period. I contacted Diana Gale Matthiesen who has done a lot of research > on the Straubs and this is how she responded. This may give you a > different source to check out. > > > The author of this page is mixing up different waves of immigration. > There was, indeed, a wave of Palatine Germans who migrated to London > in 1709, then from there, on to *New York* in 1710. Their story is > told in a 1937 book by Walter Allen Knittle entitled, "Early > Eighteenth Century Palatine Emigration: a British Government > Redemptioner Project to Manufacture Naval Stores" (Dorrance& Co., > Philadelphia). > > > > On 12/14/2011 10:44 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > >> I see 3955 was not saved in Reocities.com then Wayback is only one with >> the info. >> >> David S. >> >> On 12/14/2011 9:20 PM, Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: >> >>> On 12/11/2011 3:30 PM, Robyn Greenlund wrote: >>> >>>> I wasn't able to find a source for the material, but I was able to >>>> find a copy of the original webpage on the Wayback machine here: >>>> http://web.archive.org/web/**20030622133446/http://www.** >>>> geocities.com/Heartland/3955/**palatine.htm >>>> >>>> >>> Thank you for the link, Robyn -- Nice to see it with Kraig claiming the >>> copyright -- I'm not sure if he didn't find it elsewhere, but more on >>> that when I know -- I have to get to a location with an Ancestry >>> subscription first. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bill Strickland >>> >>> >>> >>> > ______________________________**_______________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.**or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.**us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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URL: From lechevrier at q.com Thu Dec 15 09:20:30 2011 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:20:30 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Palatine References In-Reply-To: References: <23499562.1323500166589.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4EE3112E.2080903@q.com> <4EE36D41.7000206@ccountry.net> <4EE43EB0.8050905@q.com> <1323646240.20636.YahooMailNeo@web112415.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4EE9758A.4010405@q.com> <4EE99743.1080805@sampubco.com> <4EEA1732.40702@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <4EEA2C5E.7020603@q.com> The website http://genealogygirl.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/waltercshierbook.pdf, is a digital transcription of a 17 page book written by the late Dr. Walter C. Shier, "The Shier Family, 1709 ? 1850" As well as being an interesting Palatine genealogy, it has an excellent pre-1917 bibliography of Palatine history: Bittenger, Lucy Forney: The Germans in Colonial Times Philadelphia 1901. Cobb, Sandford H.: The Story of the Palatines. Boston(?) 1897 Crook, William: Ireland and the Centenary of American Methodism. London and Dublin, 1866 Diffenderffer, Frank Ried: The German Exodus to England in 1709. Lancaster PA., 1897 James, C. C.: ?The Irish Palatines? The Methodist Magazine and Review, vol. 55, 1902, pp. 217-225, 291-303. Knittle, Walter Allen: The Early Eighteenth Century Palatine Emigration. Dissertation, Philadelphia, 1936. Tucker, Rev. W. Bowman. The Romance of the Palatine Millers. Montreal, 1929. (Augmented edition of The Camden Colony. 1907.) Brief descriptions of the Irish Palatines can be found in the accounts of various travelers, such as: Carr, John. A Stranger in Ireland, or a Tour in the Southern and Western Parts of that Country in the Year 1805. p. 352 Hall, Mr. and Mrs. S.C. Ireland: it's Scenery, Character, &c. (no date; about 1843). vol. 1, pp. 346ff. Kohl, J. G. Travels in Ireland. (1842). p. 76 de Latocnaye, de B. Promenade d'un Francais dans l'Irlande, 1796-97 (translated by John Stevenson, 1917) pp. 118-119 Wesley, John. Journal. See the entries under the dates 1760, July 16; 1762, June 5; 1765, June 14; 1767, May 21; 1778, May 7, May 8; 1789, May 13. Young, Arthur. A Tour in Ireland, with General Observations on the Present State of that Kingdom made in 1776, 1777, 1778. See the entries for 1776, September 30, October 5, October 7; vol. 2, sec. 5 From opera_70 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 15 14:58:07 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:58:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Palatine References In-Reply-To: <4EEA2C5E.7020603@q.com> Message-ID: <1323989887.32853.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I have managed to find two parts (? of 7?) of the Diffenderffer (say that real fast three times) writings as pdf format on Archive.org. I would caution anyone wanting to buy any of that to read the fine print. I have seen them for a little over $15 and one place you can buy a OCR reprint for more than $24. For those not aware of what that means, it probably means they stole the computer generated version of the book from Archive.org which you can obtain for free if so inclined. I prefer the pdf as the OCR version is usually unreadable. Les C > The website http://genealogygirl.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/waltercshierbook.pdf, > is a digital transcription of a 17 page book written by the > late Dr. Walter C. Shier, "The Shier Family, 1709 ? 1850" > > As well as being an interesting Palatine genealogy, it has > an excellent pre-1917 bibliography of Palatine history: > > Bittenger, Lucy Forney: The Germans in Colonial Times > Philadelphia 1901. > Cobb, Sandford H.: The Story of the Palatines. > Boston(?) 1897 > Crook, William: Ireland and the Centenary of American > Methodism. > London and Dublin, 1866 > Diffenderffer, Frank Ried: The German Exodus to England in > 1709. > Lancaster PA., 1897 > James, C. C.: ?The Irish Palatines? The Methodist > Magazine and Review, vol. 55, 1902, pp. > 217-225, 291-303. > Knittle, Walter Allen: The Early Eighteenth Century > Palatine Emigration. Dissertation, > Philadelphia, 1936. > Tucker, Rev. W. Bowman. The Romance of the Palatine > Millers. > Montreal, 1929. (Augmented edition of The Camden Colony. > 1907.) > > Brief descriptions of the Irish Palatines can be found in > the accounts of various travelers, such as: > > Carr, John. A Stranger in Ireland, or a Tour in the > Southern and Western Parts of that Country > in the Year 1805. p. 352 > Hall, Mr. and Mrs. S.C. Ireland: it's Scenery, Character, > &c. > (no date; about 1843). vol. 1, pp. 346ff. > Kohl, J. G. Travels in Ireland. (1842). p. 76 > de Latocnaye, de B. Promenade d'un Francais dans l'Irlande, > 1796-97 > (translated by John Stevenson, 1917) pp. 118-119 > Wesley, John. Journal. See the entries under the dates > 1760, July 16; 1762, June 5; 1765, June > 14; 1767, May 21; 1778, May 7, May 8; 1789, May 13. > Young, Arthur. A Tour in Ireland, with General Observations > on the Present State of that > Kingdom made in 1776, 1777, 1778. See the entries for 1776, > September 30, October 5, > October 7; vol. 2, sec. 5 > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not > responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to > list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or > email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > From opera_70 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 21 22:46:11 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:46:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <1323989887.32853.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1324536371.78237.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Just a heads up to remind you the indexing folks at family search don't always get it right. As I understand it the data doesn't get published until it has been indexed by two different people and their results compared. My first foray into advising them of a problem turned out to be simply a very hard to read page, but since then I have found several clearly mistaken entries and unfortunately it turns out they have no easy mechanism to change or correct entries. The only way to do it at this time is to redo and reload a whole data base apparently though maybe just a whole file within the database. Kinda poor planning in my not so humble opinion, but there I go looking a gift horse in the mouth. One of my something or other cousins is really bad; https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLL1-XWG indexed as being in Orange when I am pretty sure it is Orfordville which is now Orford and I can guarantee she didn't give birth to her fourth child nine years before she was born. Anyway me point is if you know where and when someone should be and they don't show up, it might be because the got indexed a long way in both space and time from where they should be. At least Orford isn't far from where the second child was born. Les From dsam52 at sampubco.com Thu Dec 22 00:26:49 2011 From: dsam52 at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:26:49 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <1324536371.78237.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1324536371.78237.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EF2E9C9.7020201@sampubco.com> it is very clearly ORANGE. There's no f in it. David On 12/21/2011 11:46 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > indexed as being in Orange when I am pretty sure it is Orfordville which is now Orford and I can guarantee she didn't give birth to her fourth child nine years before she was born. From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Thu Dec 22 07:20:07 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:20:07 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <4EF2E9C9.7020201@sampubco.com> References: <1324536371.78237.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EF2E9C9.7020201@sampubco.com> Message-ID: <038f01ccc0bd$3037b190$90a714b0$@net> I do see an "f" reads O[----f---] [---] However, on the date of birth, I read July 7th 1846. Without having other information, the transcribers are left with what they see -- When was the child born? Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:27 AM To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos it is very clearly ORANGE. There's no f in it. David On 12/21/2011 11:46 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > indexed as being in Orange when I am pretty sure it is Orfordville which is now Orford and I can guarantee she didn't give birth to her fourth child nine years before she was born. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From opera_70 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 23 19:40:40 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:40:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <038f01ccc0bd$3037b190$90a714b0$@net> Message-ID: <1324698040.90113.YahooMailClassic@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> We could argue about the place name till we are blue in the face; the big problem with reading it as Orange is there is very clearly "vill" at the end of the word and the only place name I could find in any reference for NH starting with O and having vill in it was Orfordville. I have to agree even digitally enhanced it really looks like 1846 and not having at their hands the information that Lavinia Melvin who married George B Foss was born in 1857 there is no way to fault their interpretation of the date, even though it is obviously wrong. I find a lot of the time I have to rely on the text version to figure out what the image actually says and I assume often the people indexing these pages are familiar enough with the geography of the area to be able to fill in the blanks. I haven't tried to find a death record for Hugh as he most likely isn't in the Family Search data base since for NH they only go to 1915, so I probably never will know for sure which O town he was born in and more to the point why? Daddy being listed as a Peddler of timeware(?) in 1900 might explain that, but I thought Peddler's typically traveled a route and their family stayed in one location? Interesting puzzles we find in digging into our ancestry. Les C --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Kith-n-Kin wrote: > From: Kith-n-Kin > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos > To: "'or-roots mail list'" > Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 7:20 AM > I do see an "f" reads O[----f---] > [---] > > However, on the date of birth, I read July 7th 1846.? > Without having other > information, the transcribers are left with what they see > -- When was the > child born? > > Pat > In Tucson > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] > On Behalf Of W David > Samuelsen > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:27 AM > To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos > > it is very clearly ORANGE. There's no f in it. > > David > > On 12/21/2011 11:46 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > > indexed as being in Orange when I am pretty sure it is > Orfordville which > is now Orford and I can guarantee she didn't give birth to > her fourth child > nine years before she was born. > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not > responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to > list owner(s) or > the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not > responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to > list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or > email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Dec 23 20:22:18 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:22:18 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <1324698040.90113.YahooMailClassic@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1324698040.90113.YahooMailClassic@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EF5537A.2000901@ccountry.net> New Hampshire, Marriage Records Index, 1637-1947 Name: Hugh Foss Marriage Date: 23 Sep 1916 Event Type: Marriage Marriage Place: Plymouth, New Hampshire Birth Date: abt 1896 Age: 20 Gender: Male Father's Name: Geo B Foss Mother's name: Lavinia E Melven Spouse Name: Helen J Pelkey Spouse Age: 19 Spouse Gender: Female Spouse Father's Name: M Pelkey Spouse Mother's Name: Lucy Doucette FHL Film Number: 2058033 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Hugh Foss Age: 3 Birth Date: Jul 1896 Birthplace: New Hampshire Home in 1900: Plymouth, Grafton, New Hampshire [Plymouth, Grafton, New Hampshire] Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: George B Foss Father's Birthplace: New Hampshire Mother's name: Lavinia E Foss Mother's Birthplace: New Hampshire Occupation: View on Image Household Members: Name Age George B Foss 44 Lavinia E Foss 43 Guy M Foss 18 George L Foss 14 Noah S Foss 11 Hugh Foss 3 Source Citation: Year: /1900/; Census Place: /Plymouth, Grafton, New Hampshire/; Roll: /T623_946/; Page: /2A/; Enumeration District: /72/. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Hugh Foss County: Grafton State: New Hampshire Birthplace: New Hampshire;United States of America Birth Date: 7 Jul 1896 FHL Roll Number: 1711719 DraftBoard: 0 Social Security Death Index Name: Hugh Foss SSN: 710-18-6422 Last Residence: 953 (U.S. Consulate), Canada Born: 7 Jul 1896 Last Benefit: 953 (U.S. Consulate), Canada Died: Nov 1980 State (Year) SSN issued: Railroad Board (Issued Through) (1951-1963) On 12/23/2011 7:40 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > We could argue about the place name till we are blue in the face; the big problem with reading it as Orange is there is very clearly "vill" at the end of the word and the only place name I could find in any reference for NH starting with O and having vill in it was Orfordville. I have to agree even digitally enhanced it really looks like 1846 and not having at their hands the information that Lavinia Melvin who married George B Foss was born in 1857 there is no way to fault their interpretation of the date, even though it is obviously wrong. I find a lot of the time I have to rely on the text version to figure out what the image actually says and I assume often the people indexing these pages are familiar enough with the geography of the area to be able to fill in the blanks. I haven't tried to find a death record for Hugh as he most likely isn't in the Family Search data base since for NH they only go to 1915, so I probably never will know for sure > which O town he was born in and more to the point why? Daddy being listed as a Peddler of timeware(?) in 1900 might explain that, but I thought Peddler's typically traveled a route and their family stayed in one location? > > Interesting puzzles we find in digging into our ancestry. > > Les C > > --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Kith-n-Kin wrote: > >> From: Kith-n-Kin >> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos >> To: "'or-roots mail list'" >> Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 7:20 AM >> I do see an "f" reads O[----f---] >> [---] >> >> However, on the date of birth, I read July 7th 1846. >> Without having other >> information, the transcribers are left with what they see >> -- When was the >> child born? >> >> Pat >> In Tucson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] >> On Behalf Of W David >> Samuelsen >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:27 AM >> To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos >> >> it is very clearly ORANGE. There's no f in it. >> >> David >> >> On 12/21/2011 11:46 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: >>> indexed as being in Orange when I am pretty sure it is >> Orfordville which >> is now Orford and I can guarantee she didn't give birth to >> her fourth child >> nine years before she was born. >> _____________________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not >> responsible for >> content. >> Questions related to message content should be directed to >> list owner(s) or >> the sender of the message, by phone or email. >> Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. >> >> >> _____________________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Dec 23 21:16:07 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:16:07 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <1324698040.90113.YahooMailClassic@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1324698040.90113.YahooMailClassic@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EF56017.5050601@ccountry.net> After looking at his birthplace on the WWI draft registration of Hugh Foss which shows his birthplace Campton, New Hampshire and then looking again at the link you gave for Family Search it is apparently Campton Vill shown as his birthplace. It is a little plainer listed as place of residence for the father. Origin: First chartered in 1761, the town may have been named for a friend of Governor Benning Wentworth, Spencer Compton, Earl of Wilmington. Another source indicates that when surveyors came to the area, they built a camp here, and the name Campton comes from that. Conditions of the 1761 charter were not met, and a new charter was issued in 1767. An early settler was John Marsh, whose grandson Sylvester was born in Campton. Sylvester Marsh, a founder of the Chicago meat-packing industry, came up with the idea of building a railway to the summit of Mount Washington. Marsh invented the cog rail mechanism and special brakes so the locomotive could scale the steep terrain, completing the railway in July 1869. Villages and Place Names: Beebe River, Blair, Campton Hollow, Campton Lower Village, Campton Station, Campton Upper Village, West Campton On 12/23/2011 7:40 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > We could argue about the place name till we are blue in the face; the big problem with reading it as Orange is there is very clearly "vill" at the end of the word and the only place name I could find in any reference for NH starting with O and having vill in it was Orfordville. I have to agree even digitally enhanced it really looks like 1846 and not having at their hands the information that Lavinia Melvin who married George B Foss was born in 1857 there is no way to fault their interpretation of the date, even though it is obviously wrong. I find a lot of the time I have to rely on the text version to figure out what the image actually says and I assume often the people indexing these pages are familiar enough with the geography of the area to be able to fill in the blanks. I haven't tried to find a death record for Hugh as he most likely isn't in the Family Search data base since for NH they only go to 1915, so I probably never will know for sure > which O town he was born in and more to the point why? Daddy being listed as a Peddler of timeware(?) in 1900 might explain that, but I thought Peddler's typically traveled a route and their family stayed in one location? > > Interesting puzzles we find in digging into our ancestry. > > Les C > > --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Kith-n-Kin wrote: > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 23 21:31:59 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:31:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <4EF56017.5050601@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <1324704719.80016.YahooMailClassic@web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Merry Christmas to everyone on the list. Thank you Sue for pointing out the obvious answer that all three of us Guys managed to totally over look. My fault for not paying any attention to the information beyond Hugh's date of birth and place. I could use the excuse that the place names listed further down the page on these cards are often wrong or missing, but that would be a very lame excuse. ?I found no mention in the centennial history or any thing on their web site that they had ever had Vill attached to the name and isn[t it interesting that it doesn't have an e on it? Thanks again. Les C. --- On Fri, 12/23/11, Sue Steward wrote: From: Sue Steward Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos To: "or-roots mail list" Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 9:16 PM After looking at his birthplace on the WWI draft registration of Hugh Foss which shows his birthplace Campton, New Hampshire and then looking again at the link you gave for Family Search it is apparently Campton Vill shown as his birthplace.? It is a little plainer listed as place of residence for the father. Origin: First chartered in 1761, the town may have been named for a friend of Governor Benning Wentworth, Spencer Compton, Earl of Wilmington. Another source indicates that when surveyors came to the area, they built a camp here, and the name Campton comes from that. Conditions of the 1761 charter were not met, and a new charter was issued in 1767. An early settler was John Marsh, whose grandson Sylvester was born in Campton. Sylvester Marsh, a founder of the Chicago meat-packing industry, came up with the idea of building a railway to the summit of Mount Washington. Marsh invented the cog rail mechanism and special brakes so the locomotive could scale the steep terrain, completing the railway in July 1869. Villages and Place Names: Beebe River, Blair, Campton Hollow, Campton Lower Village, Campton Station, Campton Upper Village, West Campton On 12/23/2011 7:40 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: We could argue about the place name till we are blue in the face; the big problem with reading it as Orange is there is very clearly "vill" at the end of the word and the only place name I could find in any reference for NH starting with O and having vill in it was Orfordville. I have to agree even digitally enhanced it really looks like 1846 and not having at their hands the information that Lavinia Melvin who married George B Foss was born in 1857 there is no way to fault their interpretation of the date, even though it is obviously wrong. I find a lot of the time I have to rely on the text version to figure out what the image actually says and I assume often the people indexing these pages are familiar enough with the geography of the area to be able to fill in the blanks. I haven't tried to find a death record for Hugh as he most likely isn't in the Family Search data base since for NH they only go to 1915, so I probably never will know for sure which O town he was born in and more to the point why? Daddy being listed as a Peddler of timeware(?) in 1900 might explain that, but I thought Peddler's typically traveled a route and their family stayed in one location? Interesting puzzles we find in digging into our ancestry. Les C --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Kith-n-Kin wrote: -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Fri Dec 23 22:15:15 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:15:15 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <1324704719.80016.YahooMailClassic@web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1324704719.80016.YahooMailClassic@web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EF56DF3.3040500@ccountry.net> I would also like to extend a Merry Christmas to everyone on the list. I think this is the greatest "list" on the internet, members are very helpful. Looks like it might be short for "village" maybe that's why it doesn't have an "e". Sue On 12/23/2011 9:31 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > Merry Christmas to everyone on the list. > > Thank you Sue for pointing out the obvious answer that all three of us > Guys managed to totally over look. My fault for not paying any > attention to the information beyond Hugh's date of birth and place. I > could use the excuse that the place names listed further down the page > on these cards are often wrong or missing, but that would be a very > lame excuse. I found no mention in the centennial history or any > thing on their web site that they had ever had Vill attached to the > name and isn[t it interesting that it doesn't have an e on it? > > Thanks again. > > Les C. > > --- On *Fri, 12/23/11, Sue Steward //* wrote: > > > From: Sue Steward > Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos > To: "or-roots mail list" > Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 9:16 PM > > > After looking at his birthplace on the WWI draft registration of > Hugh Foss which shows his birthplace Campton, New Hampshire and > then looking again at the link you gave for Family Search it is > apparently Campton Vill shown as his birthplace. It is a little > plainer listed as place of residence for the father. > > > Origin: First chartered in 1761, the town may have been named for > a friend of Governor Benning Wentworth, Spencer Compton, Earl of > Wilmington. Another source indicates that when surveyors came to > the area, they built a camp here, and the name Campton comes from > that. Conditions of the 1761 charter were not met, and a new > charter was issued in 1767. An early settler was John Marsh, whose > grandson Sylvester was born in Campton. Sylvester Marsh, a founder > of the Chicago meat-packing industry, came up with the idea of > building a railway to the summit of Mount Washington. Marsh > invented the cog rail mechanism and special brakes so the > locomotive could scale the steep terrain, completing the railway > in July 1869. > > Villages and Place Names: Beebe River, Blair, Campton Hollow, > Campton Lower Village, Campton Station, Campton Upper Village, > West Campton > > > On 12/23/2011 7:40 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: >> We could argue about the place name till we are blue in the face; the big problem with reading it as Orange is there is very clearly "vill" at the end of the word and the only place name I could find in any reference for NH starting with O and having vill in it was Orfordville. I have to agree even digitally enhanced it really looks like 1846 and not having at their hands the information that Lavinia Melvin who married George B Foss was born in 1857 there is no way to fault their interpretation of the date, even though it is obviously wrong. I find a lot of the time I have to rely on the text version to figure out what the image actually says and I assume often the people indexing these pages are familiar enough with the geography of the area to be able to fill in the blanks. I haven't tried to find a death record for Hugh as he most likely isn't in the Family Search data base since for NH they only go to 1915, so I probably never will know >> for sure >> which O town he was born in and more to the point why? Daddy being listed as a Peddler of timeware(?) in 1900 might explain that, but I thought Peddler's typically traveled a route and their family stayed in one location? >> >> Interesting puzzles we find in digging into our ancestry. >> >> Les C >> >> --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Kith-n-Kin wrote: >> >> > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible > for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list > owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Sat Dec 24 07:43:22 2011 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <4EF56DF3.3040500@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <78768770.122297.1324741402031.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Well to be policily correct, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to everyone and hope you have great researching in the New Year. Glen Jones Portland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Steward" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 10:15:15 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos I would also like to extend a Merry Christmas to everyone on the list.? I think this is the greatest "list" on the internet, members are very helpful. Looks like it might be short for "village" maybe that's why it doesn't have an "e". Sue On 12/23/2011 9:31 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: Merry Christmas to everyone on the list. Thank you Sue for pointing out the obvious answer that all three of us Guys managed to totally over look. My fault for not paying any attention to the information beyond Hugh's date of birth and place. I could use the excuse that the place names listed further down the page on these cards are often wrong or missing, but that would be a very lame excuse. ?I found no mention in the centennial history or any thing on their web site that they had ever had Vill attached to the name and isn[t it interesting that it doesn't have an e on it? Thanks again. Les C. --- On Fri, 12/23/11, Sue Steward wrote:
From: Sue Steward Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos To: "or-roots mail list" Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 9:16 PM After looking at his birthplace on the WWI draft registration of Hugh Foss which shows his birthplace Campton, New Hampshire and then looking again at the link you gave for Family Search it is apparently Campton Vill shown as his birthplace.? It is a little plainer listed as place of residence for the father. Origin : First chartered in 1761, the town may have been named for a friend of Governor Benning Wentworth, Spencer Compton, Earl of Wilmington. Another source indicates that when surveyors came to the area, they built a camp here, and the name Campton comes from that. Conditions of the 1761 charter were not met, and a new charter was issued in 1767. An early settler was John Marsh, whose grandson Sylvester was born in Campton. Sylvester Marsh, a founder of the Chicago meat-packing industry, came up with the idea of building a railway to the summit of Mount Washington. Marsh invented the cog rail mechanism and special brakes so the locomotive could scale the steep terrain, completing the railway in July 1869. Villages and Place Names : Beebe River, Blair, Campton Hollow, Campton Lower Village, Campton Station, Campton Upper Village, West Campton On 12/23/2011 7:40 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote:
We could argue about the place name till we are blue in the face; the big problem with reading it as Orange is there is very clearly "vill" at the end of the word and the only place name I could find in any reference for NH starting with O and having vill in it was Orfordville. I have to agree even digitally enhanced it really looks like 1846 and not having at their hands the information that Lavinia Melvin who married George B Foss was born in 1857 there is no way to fault their interpretation of the date, even though it is obviously wrong. I find a lot of the time I have to rely on the text version to figure out what the image actually says and I assume often the people indexing these pages are familiar enough with the geography of the area to be able to fill in the blanks. I haven't tried to find a death record for Hugh as he most likely isn't in the Family Search data base since for NH they only go to 1915, so I probably never will know for sure which O town he was born in and more to the point why? Daddy being listed as a Peddler of timeware(?) in 1900 might explain that, but I thought Peddler's typically traveled a route and their family stayed in one location? Interesting puzzles we find in digging into our ancestry. Les C --- On Thu, 12/22/11, Kith-n-Kin wrote: -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800.
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Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos Well to be policily correct, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to everyone and hope you have great researching in the New Year. Glen Jones Portland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Sat Dec 24 09:05:16 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:05:16 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos In-Reply-To: <1324704719.80016.YahooMailClassic@web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <4EF56017.5050601@ccountry.net> <1324704719.80016.YahooMailClassic@web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011001ccc25e$354042e0$9fc0c8a0$@net> Les Well, I do have to say that it still looks like Orf* to me, and thus could be Orford Vill - but since that's quite a ways from Campton (37 miles on today's roads), it's unlikely that they were "visiting" or had moved to Orford before the baby was born. But, not impossible. In the 1900 census, they are living in Plymouth - about half way between the two. As George is a peddler by then, this could be the case. But, let's look at something else here. I just did a different search - Foss babies born in Grafton county - and came up with: Guy M, born 1882, Thornton, father born Concord, mother born Rumney. Father was a farmer "Unknown" born 1885, Thornton, Father born in Thornton, mother born in Rumney, father was a farmer. (This is George L from the 1900 census). Noah was born in Thornton, 1889, according to his WWI registration, and was living in Minnesota at the time, but I don't find a birth registration for him. Hugh was born in Campton, 1896, according to his WWI registration, and was living in Brookville, Ontario when he registered. His father was born in Concord, his mother in Rumney. He was a mechanic. It doesn't appear that anyone was over in Orford. So, forget that. In spite of the "O" on the birth registration for Hugh, I suggest it is really a "C" and would then be C.pt.. Vill. I inverted the image and found it a bit easier to read. If you look at the very bottom, the way the clerk wrote Campton there is much like an "O" Since Campton and Thornton are only five miles apart (seems further, when you're driving it, believe me!), the family could have lived anywhere between the two. The birth was probably at home, and all the births may have been in the same house, but I'm sure where the birth was reported to was key to the "where was the child born." The birth was reported from Thornton for Guy and George, Campton for Hugh. I question the "Campton Vill" but that was probably to distinguish the village from the township. In Oregon, because we didn't have named townships, it probably would have been 'county' for babies born outside the corporate limits of a village. But, we don't know the corporate limits of Campton Village, or Thornton Village, so who knows? Reminds me of some of my southern family who were married out of a different county than the one they lived in, just because the courthouse was closer. 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Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos Well to be policily correct, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to everyone and hope you have great researching in the New Year. Glen Jones Portland ? _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sue On 12/24/2011 10:47 AM, Glen Jones wrote: > > Hi Diane > > Well you never know who is going to be on the Board. > > Might make it over your way next summer. > > Glen > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Diane" > *To: *"or-roots mail list" > *Sent: *Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:56:31 AM > *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos > > ? > I am not PC....MERRY CHRISTMAS. > Diane > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Glen Jones > *To:* or-roots mail list > *Sent:* Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos > > Well to be policily correct, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to everyone > > and hope you have great researching in the New Year. > > Glen Jones Portland > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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Glen ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:56:31 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos ? I am not PC.... MERRY CHRISTMAS . ? Diane
----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos Well to be policily correct, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to everyone and hope you have great researching in the New Year. ? Glen Jones Portland ? _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800.
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Sally in southern oregon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vkassing at minn.net Sat Dec 24 12:57:00 2011 From: vkassing at minn.net (ViolaRae Kassing) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:57:00 -0600 Subject: [or-roots] PC In-Reply-To: <4EF621E2.3060604@ccountry.net> References: <1791111956.126864.1324752450436.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4EF621E2.3060604@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <00bb01ccc27e$952f88d0$bf8e9a70$@net> I?m less than bright today. I?ve be trying to figure out what ?PC? stood for. It just hit me ?politically correct?! Now, I say Happy Holidays to strangers because I don?t want to discount their beliefs and Marry Christmas to friends and family! I want everyone to enjoy the holidays! From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:03 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] PC Does it really matter who is going to be on the Board. We tolerate their need to say "happy holidays" and they can tolerate our "Merry Christmas". I'm standing for my personal beliefs and not worrying about being politically correct. Sue On 12/24/2011 10:47 AM, Glen Jones wrote: Hi Diane Well you never know who is going to be on the Board. Might make it over your way next summer. Glen _____ From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:56:31 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos ? I am not PC....MERRY CHRISTMAS. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Family Search boo boos Well to be policily correct, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to everyone and hope you have great researching in the New Year. Glen Jones Portland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Sat Dec 24 16:26:24 2011 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:26:24 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] PC In-Reply-To: <00bb01ccc27e$952f88d0$bf8e9a70$@net> References: <1791111956.126864.1324752450436.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <4EF621E2.3060604@ccountry.net> <00bb01ccc27e$952f88d0$bf8e9a70$@net> Message-ID: <014b01ccc29b$d5baf2a0$8130d7e0$@net> You know, my Jewish friends wish me Merry Christmas and I wish them Happy Hanukah. Generally, though, when greeting someone I don?t know, I just wish them a generic Happy Holiday, or just say ?hello.? It has nothing to do with PC, in my book, just respecting others? holidays, and wishing them good will. Feliz Navidad, pr?spero a?o y felicidad Pat In Tucson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net Mon Dec 26 12:58:41 2011 From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] War Bride Story In-Reply-To: <4EEA2C5E.7020603@q.com> Message-ID: <1955354117.12205.1324933121035.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> A Great but sad story about family research. Eugene http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/12/war_bride_esther_gavin.html#incart_mrt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From konajo37 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 26 13:57:17 2011 From: konajo37 at hotmail.com (Joanne Broadhurst) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:57:17 -1000 Subject: [or-roots] War Bride Story In-Reply-To: <1955354117.12205.1324933121035.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <4EEA2C5E.7020603@q.com>, <1955354117.12205.1324933121035.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I read it competely through yesterday on the Oregonlive.com website. Such a tragic story and it shows how family tendencies and genetics can matter. Having the family line being traced back to the shooting of the police chief in Rainier is absolutely eerie. Joanne Broadhurst Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:58:41 +0000 From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] War Bride Story A Great but sad story about family research. Eugene http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/12/war_bride_esther_gavin.html#incart_mrt _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cecemoore at hotmail.com Mon Dec 26 15:06:26 2011 From: cecemoore at hotmail.com (CeCe Moore ) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:06:26 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] War Bride Story Message-ID: Wow, just wow. Thanks for sharing. CeCe Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:58:41 To: Subject: [or-roots] War Bride Story A Great but sad story about family research. ? Eugene ? http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/12/war_bride_esther_gavin.html#incart_mrt ? ? From ssteward at ccountry.net Mon Dec 26 15:11:02 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:11:02 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] War Bride Story In-Reply-To: <1955354117.12205.1324933121035.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1955354117.12205.1324933121035.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4EF8FF06.5080202@ccountry.net> The Butts name of the man accused of murdering the Rainier police chief, gave me pause for a moment because there are some Butts in my husband's extended family. When I checked it out though, they had daughters not sons. Sue On 12/26/2011 12:58 PM, eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net wrote: > > A Great but sad story about family research. > > Eugene > > http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/12/war_bride_esther_gavin.html#incart_mrt > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 27 23:31:53 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:31:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Daniel Christian news item Message-ID: <1325057513.74524.YahooMailClassic@web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I am hoping to contact Paul Christian who is a descendant of Daniel who was an early settler in Eugene and who along with his family were very important people there for some time. He was on this list so Paul if you are still there, the email address I have for you is no longer any good. I clipped an item by Irena Dunn Williams from an on online copy of a 1940 Register Guard I'd like to share with you. Les C From opera_70 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 28 23:13:33 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:13:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Gerber family in Lane County Message-ID: <1325142813.29890.YahooMailClassic@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Interesting thing I discovered recently, cousins I have live near all my life and to the best of my knowledge never met, or at most met once or twice. name: Dorothy Cor Gerber event: Death event date: 27 Nov 1981 event place: Lane, Oregon birth date: 13 Jan 1919 spouse: Joe Gerber certificate no: 81-18849 name: Joe Den Gerber event: Death event date: 11 Sep 1984 event place: Lane, Oregon birth date: 22 Dec 1908 spouse: Doroth Gerber certificate no: 84-15838 name: Vernon Ernest Gerber event: Death event date: 20 Jan 1994 event place: Lane, Oregon birth date: 28 Nov 1909 spouse: Mildre Gerber certificate no: 94-00967 name: Mildred Margaret Gerber event: Death event date: 29 Aug 1994 event place: Lane, Oregon birth date: 05 Aug 1910 spouse: Vernon Gerber certificate no: 94-17732 May actual Kin in that lot is Dorothy Foster, my dad's first cousin on his Mom's side. >From her death notice in the RG I find out cousin Dorothy's middle name is Coral. That begs the question does her brother-in-law Verne (Best man at their wedding in Spfld 1940 RG again) have middle name Dennis? or Denton or? And from the 1910 and 1920 ND Census it seems pretty clear Verne is born in 1910 after Census time or later, so why is his birth announced in his obit and on Family Search as 1909? Maybe so he could get into the Navy or some such?? Mildred's maiden name is Walkely. If anyone on the list is connected to these folks I would sure like to know about it. Les C. From ssteward at ccountry.net Thu Dec 29 05:53:49 2011 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 05:53:49 -0800 Subject: [or-roots] Gerber family in Lane County In-Reply-To: <1325142813.29890.YahooMailClassic@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1325142813.29890.YahooMailClassic@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EFC70ED.8040302@ccountry.net> On someone's family tree on Ancestry his middle name is listed as Denzel. U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Name: Joe D Gerber Birth Year: 1908 Race: White, Citizen (White) Nativity State or Country: North Dakota State of Residence: Oregon County or City: Lane Enlistment Date: 16 Sep 1940 Enlistment State: Oregon Enlistment City: Springfield Branch: Infantry Branch Code: Infantry Grade: Staff Sergeant Grade Code: Staff Sergeant Term of Enlistment: One year enlistment Component: National Guard (Officers, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men) Source: National Guard Education: 1 year of high school Civil Occupation: Barbers, beauticians, and manicurists Marital Status: Single, without dependents Height: 69 Weight: 155 *Source Information:* National Archives and Records Administration. /U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946/ [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005. Original data: Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD. On 12/28/2011 11:13 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > Interesting thing I discovered recently, cousins I have live near all my life and to the best of my knowledge never met, or at most met once or twice. > > > name: Dorothy Cor Gerber > event: Death > event date: 27 Nov 1981 > event place: Lane, Oregon > birth date: 13 Jan 1919 > spouse: Joe Gerber > certificate no: 81-18849 > > name: Joe Den Gerber > event: Death > event date: 11 Sep 1984 > event place: Lane, Oregon > birth date: 22 Dec 1908 > spouse: Doroth Gerber > certificate no: 84-15838 > > name: Vernon Ernest Gerber > event: Death > event date: 20 Jan 1994 > event place: Lane, Oregon > birth date: 28 Nov 1909 > spouse: Mildre Gerber > certificate no: 94-00967 > > name: Mildred Margaret Gerber > event: Death > event date: 29 Aug 1994 > event place: Lane, Oregon > birth date: 05 Aug 1910 > spouse: Vernon Gerber > certificate no: 94-17732 > > May actual Kin in that lot is Dorothy Foster, my dad's first cousin on his Mom's side. > > > From her death notice in the RG I find out cousin Dorothy's middle name is Coral. That begs the question does her brother-in-law Verne (Best man at their wedding in Spfld 1940 RG again) have middle name Dennis? or Denton or? > > And from the 1910 and 1920 ND Census it seems pretty clear Verne is born in 1910 after Census time or later, so why is his birth announced in his obit and on Family Search as 1909? Maybe so he could get into the Navy or some such?? > > Mildred's maiden name is Walkely. If anyone on the list is connected to these folks I would sure like to know about it. > > Les C. > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 29 09:53:27 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Gerber family in Lane County In-Reply-To: <4EFC70ED.8040302@ccountry.net> References: <1325142813.29890.YahooMailClassic@web160901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EFC70ED.8040302@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <1325181207.774.YahooMailNeo@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Thank you Sue, I figured i would get an answer from you, my email last night was one of those lazy attacks just before bed. I found that Denzel and the really interesting thing is I am pretty sure the guy who posted that is someont I have other information in common with. Usually when I hit that it is the Melvin line, but I will probably have yo hunt real hard to figure this one out since all the ususal supsects didn't show up in the index of the Gerber link. ? Ken seems to confirm my surmise about Vernon too as he give 1910 for his birth year instead of 09. My brother-in-law here in Reedsport has a friend named Gerber and it would have been a real irony if he was a cousin, but I am pretty sure he is older than me and my second cousins are both younger than me according to my files. ? Thanks again, and again; if anyone one is connected I have more stuff ? Les C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 30 20:55:43 2011 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:55:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [or-roots] Thought I would abuse Family search a little more Message-ID: <1325307343.16441.YahooMailClassic@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I would love to know the story behind this one, I will put correct info in [] name: Lanna Lisette Marie Popp [can't argue with Lanna Lisette Marie, aka Laura, the problem is her surname is Hintz] gender: ? ? ? ? ??Female birth date: ? ? ? ? ??06 Jan 1887birthplace: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin father's name: ? ? ? ? ?Heinrich Popp ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?[Heinrich Hintz] mother's name: ? ? ? ? ?Henriyettte Popp ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?[Henriette or Henrietta] Actually I guess it isn't all that bad, but looking at the index entry for this record the only clue I had I would be interested was Henriyette, everything else looked wrong. Another puzzle to me is several times now I have seen mother's maiden name or other info [birth date one time] listed in the index page that isn't there when you look at the detailed record?? When that happens I just "assume" it is correct and include it. Of course as this record shows if it is a name showing up in the index but not in the record I might be "assuming" myself right into a big blooper. Happy New year everybody.? Les C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: