From mygenrw2 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 09:30:13 2011
From: mygenrw2 at gmail.com (James-admin)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:30:13 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
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 Well, seems quiet here.
    Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.
Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.
Dan M
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From whitehillranch at centurytel.net  Tue Oct 18 09:43:06 2011
From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:43:06 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
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Frost here.  Beautiful sunrises and sunsets.  Still canning goodies from the garden and orchard.  
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   Well, seems quiet here.
      Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.
  Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.
  Dan M


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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 09:55:20 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:55:20 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
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I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a family
reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla while I
was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through
Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I
got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed
and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.
Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.
I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.  It
was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a picture
of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach pictures to
this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I
would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot
of stones in it.
Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?
Dale in California



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> **
>  Well, seems quiet here.
>     Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.
> Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.
> Dan M
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From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us  Tue Oct 18 11:09:16 2011
From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (SAWYER, Layne G)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:09:16 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
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Dale,

The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries, perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself from the road you were on when you encountered the site.

Layne

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011

I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla while I was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.  Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.
I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.  It was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a picture of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach pictures to this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot of stones in it.
Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?
Dale in California



On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com<mailto:mygenrw2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
 Well, seems quiet here.
    Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.
Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.
Dan M

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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Tue Oct 18 11:24:33 2011
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:24:33 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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Dale, the other option would be to list the name of the headstone that 
you photographed and perhaps someone in that area would recognize it OR 
search find-a-grave for that name and if it is listed, find the name of 
the cemetery where it is buried.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm  
Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you 
might find the name there.

Sue



On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote:
>
> Dale,
>
> The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries, 
> perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those 
> that don't have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to 
> orient yourself from the road you were on when you encountered the site.
>
> Layne
>
> *From:*or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
> [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of 
> *Dale Harguess
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
> *To:* or-roots mail list
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
>
> I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a 
> family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla 
> Walla while I was there but then on Monday we headed out toward 
> Pendleton through Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite 
> pleasant.  By the time I got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 
> degrees.  On Thursday it snowed and when I left for home on Saturday, 
> Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.  Very nice to not have been snowed 
> in as I was leery of that.
>
> I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of 
> Heppner.  It was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it 
> and took a picture of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I 
> can attach pictures to this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of 
> the cemetery and I also wish I would have written down the names I 
> saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot of stones in it.
>
> Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?
>
> Dale in California
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mygenrw2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>  Well, seems quiet here.
>
>     Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.
>
> Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.
>
> Dan M
>
>
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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 11:31:26 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:31:26 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
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Thanks, I will try that.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G <
layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us> wrote:

>  Dale,****
>
> ** **
>
> The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries,
> perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that
> don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself
> from the road you were on when you encountered the site.****
>
> ** **
>
> Layne****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:
> or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On Behalf Of *Dale Harguess
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
> *To:* or-roots mail list
>
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011****
>
> ** **
>
> I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a family
> reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla while I
> was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through
> Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I
> got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed
> and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.
> Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.****
>
> I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.  It
> was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a picture
> of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach pictures to
> this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I
> would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot
> of stones in it.****
>
> Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?****
>
> Dale in California****
>
>
>
>  ****
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>  Well, seems quiet here.****
>
>     Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.****
>
> Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.****
>
> Dan M****
>
>
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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 11:32:08 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:32:08 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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Both good ideas, thanks.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net> wrote:

> Dale, the other option would be to list the name of the headstone that you
> photographed and perhaps someone in that area would recognize it OR search
> find-a-grave for that name and if it is listed, find the name of the
> cemetery where it is buried.
>
>
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm
> Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you
> might find the name there.
>
> Sue
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote:
>
>  Dale,****
>
> ** **
>
> The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries,
> perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that
> don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself
> from the road you were on when you encountered the site.****
>
> ** **
>
> Layne****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [
> mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us<or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>]
> *On Behalf Of *Dale Harguess
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
> *To:* or-roots mail list
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011****
>
> ** **
>
> I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a family
> reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla while I
> was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through
> Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I
> got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed
> and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.
> Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.****
>
> I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.  It
> was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a picture
> of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach pictures to
> this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I
> would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot
> of stones in it.****
>
> Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?****
>
> Dale in California****
>
>
>
>  ****
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>  Well, seems quiet here.****
>
>     Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.****
>
> Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.****
>
> Dan M****
>
>
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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 11:41:49 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:41:49 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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I looked at the picture again and even though it is a pretty good picture
I'm not sure of the spelling of the name.  It was Dougherty and I remember
there were a lot of the stones with that name as well as a couple of other
names.  Even though it is out in the middle of a wheat field it looks like
it is visited often.  There is a clear path to the gate and fake flowers on
some of the graves.  It is in a pretty desolate place.  Nice fence though.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net> wrote:

> Dale, the other option would be to list the name of the headstone that you
> photographed and perhaps someone in that area would recognize it OR search
> find-a-grave for that name and if it is listed, find the name of the
> cemetery where it is buried.
>
>
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm
> Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you
> might find the name there.
>
> Sue
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote:
>
>  Dale,****
>
> ** **
>
> The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries,
> perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that
> don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself
> from the road you were on when you encountered the site.****
>
> ** **
>
> Layne****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [
> mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us<or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>]
> *On Behalf Of *Dale Harguess
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
> *To:* or-roots mail list
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011****
>
> ** **
>
> I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a family
> reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla while I
> was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through
> Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I
> got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed
> and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.
> Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.****
>
> I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.  It
> was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a picture
> of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach pictures to
> this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I
> would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot
> of stones in it.****
>
> Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?****
>
> Dale in California****
>
>
>
>  ****
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>  Well, seems quiet here.****
>
>     Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.****
>
> Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.****
>
> Dan M****
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Oct 18 12:33:08 2011
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:33:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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Another place online to check would be the Oregon Gravestone Project. 

and if you can get to a Library check the Oregon Burial Guide the cemetery 

may be listed their. 

Glen Jones 




----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Harguess" <daleharguess4 at gmail.com> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:32:08 AM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner 

Both good ideas, thanks. 


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward < ssteward at ccountry.net > wrote: 



Dale, the other option would be to list the name of the headstone that you photographed and perhaps someone in that area would recognize it OR search find-a-grave for that name and if it is listed, find the name of the cemetery where it is buried. 

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm ? Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you might find the name there. 

Sue 



On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote: 
<blockquote>



Dale, 

? 

The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries, perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery. ?Those that don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself from the road you were on when you encountered the site. 

? 

Layne 

? 


From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us ] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM 
To: or-roots mail list 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011 

? 


I got out just in time, I think.? I was in Walla Walla and went to a family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.? It was hot in Walla Walla while I was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through Heppner.? It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.? By the time I got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.? On Thursday it snowed and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.? Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that. 


I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.? It was out in a field behind two fences.? I walked up to it and took a picture of one of the very large stones.? I don't know if I can attach pictures to this site or not.? I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I would have written down the names I saw.? It wasn't very large but had a lot of stones in it. 


Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery? 


Dale in California 




? 


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin < mygenrw2 at gmail.com > wrote: 



?Well, seems quiet here. 


??? Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon. 


Been freezing up here in the outback where we live. 


Dan M 


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From LinLouVan at aol.com  Tue Oct 18 13:03:00 2011
From: LinLouVan at aol.com (LinLouVan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:03:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
Message-ID: <149d9.7b870fcc.3bcf3574@aol.com>

Dale,
I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the Oregon Historic Cemeteries  
Commission. Kuri Gill who is in charge of the program is very knowledgeable 
 about old cemeteries in the state. It is ironic that they Commission just 
had  their quarterly meeting in Weston this past weekend. Go to the Heritage 
 Commission website and then to historic cemeteries.
 
_State of Oregon: Oregon Parks  & Recreation Department: Heritage Programs_ 
(http://www.oregonheritage.org/)  
 
Linda VanOrden
Junction City, OR
 
 
In a message dated 10/18/2011 12:47:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
daleharguess4 at gmail.com writes:

Both  good ideas, thanks.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward <_ssteward at ccountry.net_ 
(mailto:ssteward at ccountry.net) >  wrote:

Dale, the other option would be to  list the name of the headstone that you 
photographed and perhaps someone in  that area would recognize it OR search 
find-a-grave for that name and if it  is listed, find the name of the 
cemetery where it is buried.

_http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.
htm_ 
(http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm)    Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been 
transcribed and you  might find the name there.

Sue



On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM,  SAWYER, Layne G wrote:  
 
Dale, 
The  Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries, 
perhaps  checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that  don?t 
have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient  yourself from 
the road you were on when you encountered the  site. 
Layne 
 
From: _or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ 
(mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)  
[_mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) ] On  Behalf Of 
Dale Harguess
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55  AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots]  Today Oct 18 2011
 
I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla  Walla and went to a 
family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It  was hot in Walla Walla while I 
was there but then on Monday we headed out  toward Pendleton through 
Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and  was quite pleasant.  By the time I got 
to Reno, Nevada it had dropped  over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed and 
when I left for home on  Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.  Very 
nice to not have  been snowed in as I was leery of that.
 
I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North  East of Heppner.  
It was out in a field behind two fences.  I  walked up to it and took a 
picture of one of the very large stones.   I don't know if I can attach pictures 
to this site or not.  I wish I  knew the name of the cemetery and I also 
wish I would have written down  the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had 
a lot of stones in  it.
 
Does anyone out there know the name of this  cemetery?
 
Dale in California
 




On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <_mygenrw2 at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:mygenrw2 at gmail.com) > wrote: 
 
 
Well, seems quiet  here.
 
Its been colder out side, I  spose more folks will be online soon.
 
Been freezing up here in the outback where we  live.
 
Dan M


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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Tue Oct 18 13:06:14 2011
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:06:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
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Well Diane 

Just so it does not snow Thanksgiving week, wife and 

I will be in Crescent that week for Thanksgiving 

with her Step-brother and Family. 



2013 OCTA Convention July 23-26 Oregon City 

accually Monarh Motor Hotel at Clackamas Tow n Center, 

we are doing the planning now, so mehow I ended up 

as CoOrdinator of the Communications and Publicity Committee 

for the convention. 

Glen 




----- Original Message -----
From: "Diane" <whitehillranch at centurytel.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:43:06 AM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011 


Frost here.? Beautiful sunrises and sunsets.? Still canning goodies from the garden and orchard.? 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: James-admin 
To: or-roots mail list 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011 


?Well, seems quiet here. 
??? Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon. 
Been freezing up here in the outback where we live. 
Dan M 




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From: nancydean at columbia-center.org (Nancy Lee Adams)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:33:00 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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Here's a surname Dougherty in Heppner, OR.  Was the cem. near this area?
Dougherty Ranch
66317 Spur Loop Rd
Heppner, OR 97836
Phone: 541-676-9737

Nancy 

 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Harguess 
  To: or-roots mail list 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner


  I looked at the picture again and even though it is a pretty good picture I'm not sure of the spelling of the name.  It was Dougherty and I remember there were a lot of the stones with that name as well as a couple of other names.  Even though it is out in the middle of a wheat field it looks like it is visited often.  There is a clear path to the gate and fake flowers on some of the graves.  It is in a pretty desolate place.  Nice fence though.


  On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net> wrote:

    Dale, the other option would be to list the name of the headstone that you photographed and perhaps someone in that area would recognize it OR search find-a-grave for that name and if it is listed, find the name of the cemetery where it is buried.

    http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm  Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you might find the name there.

    Sue



    On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote: 
      Dale,



      The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries, perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself from the road you were on when you encountered the site.



      Layne



      From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess
      Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
      To: or-roots mail list
      Subject: Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011



      I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla while I was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.  Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.

      I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.  It was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a picture of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach pictures to this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot of stones in it.

      Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?

      Dale in California



       

      On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:

       Well, seems quiet here.

          Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.

      Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.

      Dan M


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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 16:03:01 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:03:01 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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Could have been.  There was no name on the cemetery and I was traveling
towards Heppner from Walla Walla.  I will look at the map I have at home to
see if this is the name of the road.  I did go to findagrave and there were
a lot of Dougherty's buried in several cemeteries in the vicinity.  I have a
really good picture of the stone which says, "mother and father" and I could
shoot myself for not going inside the gate and taking more pictures but I am
afraid of snakes and there were a lot of holes around so I stayed on the
path.
Dale

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Nancy Lee Adams <
nancydean at columbia-center.org> wrote:

> **
> Here's a surname Dougherty in Heppner, OR.  Was the cem. near this area? Dougherty
> Ranch
> 66317 Spur Loop Rd
> Heppner, OR 97836
> Phone: 541-676-9737
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com>
> *To:* or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
>
>  I looked at the picture again and even though it is a pretty good picture
> I'm not sure of the spelling of the name.  It was Dougherty and I remember
> there were a lot of the stones with that name as well as a couple of other
> names.  Even though it is out in the middle of a wheat field it looks like
> it is visited often.  There is a clear path to the gate and fake flowers on
> some of the graves.  It is in a pretty desolate place.  Nice fence though.
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net>wrote:
>
>> Dale, the other option would be to list the name of the headstone that you
>> photographed and perhaps someone in that area would recognize it OR search
>> find-a-grave for that name and if it is listed, find the name of the
>> cemetery where it is buried.
>>
>>
>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm
>> Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you
>> might find the name there.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote:
>>
>>  Dale,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries,
>> perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that
>> don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself
>> from the road you were on when you encountered the site.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Layne****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *From:* or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [
>> mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us<or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Dale Harguess
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
>> *To:* or-roots mail list
>> *Subject:* Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a
>> family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla
>> while I was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through
>> Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I
>> got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed
>> and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.
>> Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.****
>>
>> I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.
>> It was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a
>> picture of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach
>> pictures to this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I
>> also wish I would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large
>> but had a lot of stones in it.****
>>
>> Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?****
>>
>> Dale in California****
>>
>>
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>>  Well, seems quiet here.****
>>
>>     Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.****
>>
>> Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.****
>>
>> Dan M****
>>
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From joangrady at comcast.net  Tue Oct 18 20:57:52 2011
From: joangrady at comcast.net (Graydon Miller)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:57:52 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland
Message-ID: <DB4CFA84-5CD7-4377-B7BC-52766B1E8B0D@comcast.net>

Question
Is there a source for names of passengers on ships from San Francisco  
to Portland durning the years 1850-1852?
graydon miller
joangrady at comcast.net


From opera_70 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 19 09:34:14 2011
From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland
In-Reply-To: <DB4CFA84-5CD7-4377-B7BC-52766B1E8B0D@comcast.net>
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I don't know of any single source, though the Oregon Historical society might have something; Glen Jones might be able to tell you more about that.?
I have seen passenger lists from San Francisco to Portland and I believe also listings of departures from Portland to other points listed in the "Call" which you can find (and search) selected issues of here;?http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr
The search engine is pretty good, but I have found relevant info when I knew the date to look at by browsing, also if you don't get a hit, you can browse by date or title with the buttons on the right. I enjoy doing that just for the interesting history and sometimes stumble across things I didn't know to look for.
Also if you are looking for a particular person you might want to try google books; I haven't used them for a while so don't know where they hide the buttons these days, but you can do a search in google and then somewhere is a button that gets you to just books and then on that page "should" be another button that will limit your hits to books you can download. Sometimes I get info from books that are just in review because the ?blurb Google posts to tease you into buying the book has enough info to answer my question, even if the actual page isn't there. If the page comes up, but the book is not downloadable I usually just steal the page with a right click and "save image to" or if they have that option defeated you can also zoom in till you good large text of what you want and then do an <alt> <print screen> and save the screen shot, if you don't have any other graphics program to work with it in it is possible to manipulate it in paint; select and
 copy[<ctr cl> the text you want, open a new file and paste the cropped image into it [<ctrl v>] If you prefer to print that image either save [save as .jpg gives much smaller file size] the file and print it from Windows picture and fax viewer. If you choose to print it from paint make sure you go to page setup in the "File" menu and down in the lower right corner "Fit to" should be set to 1 by 1 pages. I have no idea why paint was created to do what it does with an image, I forget this detail once in a while and end up with a 4 inch by 6 inch image on four sheets of paper. Programmer must have had shares in a paper company.
Les C

--- On Tue, 10/18/11, Graydon Miller <joangrady at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Graydon Miller <joangrady at comcast.net>
Subject: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 8:57 PM

Question
Is there a source for names of passengers on ships from San Francisco to Portland durning the years 1850-1852?
graydon miller
joangrady at comcast.net
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From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us  Wed Oct 19 09:51:18 2011
From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (SAWYER, Layne G)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:51:18 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland
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Lewis and Dryden's History of the Pacific Coast is one source you might try.  This is a multi-volume work and deals primarily with the ships and their history, but you can occasionally ferret out additional information. Several of the larger libraries have these volumes in their collections, I have pulled up a few references in internet searches to this publication but I am not certain or at least don't remember if they were from Google books.  I believe I have occasionally seen passenger lists for Portland and San Francisco on Ancestry as well, but I don't believe they cover the time period you are researching.  National Archives might have something on their website.  Another source you might try depending on how much information you have to start from are the online newspapers from that period.  I know the U of O's digital newspaper project has the Oregon Spectator available.  There are frequent references in the Spectator to ships arriving from San Francisco and occasionally they will mention a particular person has arrived.

Good luck

Layne

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:34 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland

I don't know of any single source, though the Oregon Historical society might have something; Glen Jones might be able to tell you more about that.

I have seen passenger lists from San Francisco to Portland and I believe also listings of departures from Portland to other points listed in the "Call" which you can find (and search) selected issues of here; http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr

The search engine is pretty good, but I have found relevant info when I knew the date to look at by browsing, also if you don't get a hit, you can browse by date or title with the buttons on the right. I enjoy doing that just for the interesting history and sometimes stumble across things I didn't know to look for.

Also if you are looking for a particular person you might want to try google books; I haven't used them for a while so don't know where they hide the buttons these days, but you can do a search in google and then somewhere is a button that gets you to just books and then on that page "should" be another button that will limit your hits to books you can download. Sometimes I get info from books that are just in review because the  blurb Google posts to tease you into buying the book has enough info to answer my question, even if the actual page isn't there. If the page comes up, but the book is not downloadable I usually just steal the page with a right click and "save image to" or if they have that option defeated you can also zoom in till you good large text of what you want and then do an <alt> <print screen> and save the screen shot, if you don't have any other graphics program to work with it in it is possible to manipulate it in paint; select and copy[<ctr cl> the text you want, open a new file and paste the cropped image into it [<ctrl v>] If you prefer to print that image either save [save as .jpg gives much smaller file size] the file and print it from Windows picture and fax viewer. If you choose to print it from paint make sure you go to page setup in the "File" menu and down in the lower right corner "Fit to" should be set to 1 by 1 pages. I have no idea why paint was created to do what it does with an image, I forget this detail once in a while and end up with a 4 inch by 6 inch image on four sheets of paper. Programmer must have had shares in a paper company.

Les C

--- On Tue, 10/18/11, Graydon Miller <joangrady at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Graydon Miller <joangrady at comcast.net>
Subject: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 8:57 PM
Question
Is there a source for names of passengers on ships from San Francisco to Portland durning the years 1850-1852?
graydon miller
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From opera_70 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 19 10:45:46 2011
From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:45:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
Message-ID: <1319046346.10042.YahooMailClassic@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Looking on Google Earth there is a Pleasant Point Cemetery about 12.4 miles as the crow flies ENE of Hepner, but it is a bit more than four miles off of Hwy 74 on Little Butter Creek road and GE says you should have gone through Lexington which is NW of Hepner to get there and that is nowhere near 74. There is a Sand Hollow cemetery about 12 miles NE of Hepner that is on the preferred route, but is about three miles off of the main road; 1.5 mile S on Sand Hollow and left about 1.8 on Barclay Rd. I note it is possible to catch Sand Hollow road by going east a little ways from Hepner; perhaps you were not following the state highways? Okay on further review I think Pleasant Point is probably where you were, if you took a left on Butter Creek about 72 miles from Walla Walla and then right onto Little Butter creek road you would have gone right past that Cemetery.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=39299&CScn=Pleasant+Point&CScntry=4&CSst=39&CScnty=2229&

FInda grave has is a picture, and ?70 names but no Doughtery, Sand Hollow has 19 and again no Doughtery

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2221652&CScn=Sand+Hollow&CScntry=4&CSst=39&

Les C





--- On Tue, 10/18/11, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of
 Heppner
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 4:03 PM

Could have been.? There was no name on the cemetery and I was traveling towards Heppner from Walla Walla.? I will look at the map I have at home to see if this is the name of the road.? I did go to findagrave and there were a lot of Dougherty's buried in several cemeteries in the vicinity.? I have a really good picture of the stone which says, "mother and father" and I could shoot myself for not going inside the gate and taking more pictures but I am afraid of snakes and there were a lot of holes around so I stayed on the path.

Dale


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Nancy Lee Adams <nancydean at columbia-center.org> wrote:



Here's a surname Dougherty in Heppner, OR.? Was the cem. near this area?
Dougherty Ranch
66317 Spur Loop Rd
Heppner, OR 97836
Phone: 541-676-9737
?
Nancy?
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From mygen2 at d-matney.com  Wed Oct 19 10:46:37 2011
From: mygen2 at d-matney.com (Dan-M)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:46:37 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
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Whoops sorry about the sending name.
Fixed it I hope lol;D
Dan M
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   Well, seems quiet here.
      Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.
  Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.
  Dan M


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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 19 11:05:34 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:05:34 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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I looked at both of those and neither is the right one.  Can I send you the
picture off list so you can see what it looks like?
Dale

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>     Looking on Google Earth there is a Pleasant Point Cemetery about 12.4
> miles as the crow flies ENE of Hepner, but it is a bit more than four miles
> off of Hwy 74 on Little Butter Creek road and GE says you should have gone
> through Lexington which is NW of Hepner to get there and that is nowhere
> near 74. There is a Sand Hollow cemetery about 12 miles NE of Hepner that is
> on the preferred route, but is about three miles off of the main road; 1.5
> mile S on Sand Hollow and left about 1.8 on Barclay Rd. I note it is
> possible to catch Sand Hollow road by going east a little ways from Hepner;
> perhaps you were not following the state highways? Okay on further review I
> think Pleasant Point is probably where you were, if you took a left on
> Butter Creek about 72 miles from Walla Walla and then right onto Little
> Butter creek road you would have gone right past that Cemetery.
>
> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=39299&CScn=Pleasant+Point&CScntry=4&CSst=39&CScnty=2229&
>
> FInda grave has is a picture, and  70 names but no Doughtery, Sand Hollow
> has 19 and again no Doughtery
>
>
> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2221652&CScn=Sand+Hollow&CScntry=4&CSst=39&
>
> Les C
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 10/18/11, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
> To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 4:03 PM
>
>
>  Could have been.  There was no name on the cemetery and I was traveling
> towards Heppner from Walla Walla.  I will look at the map I have at home to
> see if this is the name of the road.  I did go to findagrave and there were
> a lot of Dougherty's buried in several cemeteries in the vicinity.  I have a
> really good picture of the stone which says, "mother and father" and I could
> shoot myself for not going inside the gate and taking more pictures but I am
> afraid of snakes and there were a lot of holes around so I stayed on the
> path.
> Dale
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Nancy Lee Adams <
> nancydean at columbia-center.org> wrote:
>
> **
> Here's a surname Dougherty in Heppner, OR.  Was the cem. near this area? Dougherty
> Ranch
> 66317 Spur Loop Rd
> Heppner, OR 97836
> Phone: 541-676-9737
>
> Nancy
>
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From opera_70 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 19 12:00:26 2011
From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:00:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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I was on the right track, go east out of Hepner on route 74 (statee hwy?) The cemetery is just before you would turn on to Butter Creek Road. I didn't see the icon when I was looking there on GE earlier.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GRid=14744474&CRid=39528&
USA Photo maps is on the fritz today so I can't check if it is on topo map, but I think that iw where most of GE info comes from.
Les C?

--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 11:05 AM

I looked at both of those and neither is the right one.? Can I send you the picture off list so you can see what it looks like?
Dale


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com> wrote:










Looking on Google Earth there is a Pleasant Point Cemetery about 12.4 miles as the crow flies ENE of Hepner, but it is a bit more than four miles off of Hwy 74 on Little Butter Creek road and GE says you should have gone through Lexington which is NW of Hepner to get there and that is nowhere near 74. There is a Sand Hollow cemetery about 12 miles NE of Hepner that is on the preferred route, but is about three miles off of the main road; 1.5 mile S on Sand Hollow and left about 1.8 on Barclay Rd. I note it is possible to catch Sand Hollow road by going east a little ways from Hepner; perhaps you were not following the state highways? Okay on further review I think Pleasant Point is probably where you were, if you took a left on Butter Creek about 72 miles from Walla Walla and then right onto Little Butter creek road you would have gone right past that Cemetery.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=39299&CScn=Pleasant+Point&CScntry=4&CSst=39&CScnty=2229&


FInda grave has is a picture, and ?70 names but no Doughtery, Sand Hollow has 19 and again no Doughtery

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2221652&CScn=Sand+Hollow&CScntry=4&CSst=39&


Les C





--- On Tue, 10/18/11, Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Dale Harguess <daleharguess4 at gmail.com> 

Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner

To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 4:03 PM 




Could have been.? There was no name on the cemetery and I was traveling towards Heppner from Walla Walla.? I will look at the map I have at home to see if this is the name of the road.? I did go to findagrave and there were a lot of Dougherty's buried in several cemeteries in the vicinity.? I have a really good picture of the stone which says, "mother and father" and I could shoot myself for not going inside the gate and taking more pictures but I am afraid of snakes and there were a lot of holes around so I stayed on the path.

Dale


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Nancy Lee Adams <nancydean at columbia-center.org> wrote:



Here's a surname Dougherty in Heppner, OR.? Was the cem. near this area?
Dougherty Ranch
66317 Spur Loop Rd
Heppner, OR 97836
Phone: 541-676-9737
?
Nancy?
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Wed Oct 19 13:26:20 2011
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:26:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland
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I do not remember what they had on ships passenger lists at the Oregon Historical 

Society, and Layne is right ancestry sometimes will show a passenger list for West Coast 

Ports. 

Glen Jones 




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Lewis and Dryden?s History of the Pacific Coast is one source you might try.? This is a multi-volume work and deals primarily with the ships and their history, but you can occasionally ferret out additional information. Several of the larger libraries have these volumes in their collections, I have pulled up a few references in internet searches to this publication but I am not certain or at least don?t remember if they were from Google books. ?I believe I have occasionally seen passenger lists for Portland and San Francisco on Ancestry as well, but I don?t believe they cover the time period you are researching.? National Archives might have something on their website.? Another source you might try depending on how much information you have to start from are the online newspapers from that period.? I know the U of O?s digital newspaper project has the Oregon Spectator available.? There are frequent references in the Spectator to ships arriving from San Francisco and occasionally they will mention a particular person has arrived.? 

? 

Good luck 

? 

Layne 

? 


From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman 
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:34 AM 
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland 

? 

I don't know of any single source, though the Oregon Historical society might have something; Glen Jones might be able to tell you more about that.? 


? 


I have seen passenger lists from San Francisco to Portland and I believe also listings of departures from Portland to other points listed in the "Call" which you can find (and search) selected issues of here;? http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr 


? 


The search engine is pretty good, but I have found relevant info when I knew the date to look at by browsing, also if you don't get a hit, you can browse by date or title with the buttons on the right. I enjoy doing that just for the interesting history and sometimes stumble across things I didn't know to look for. 


? 


Also if you are looking for a particular person you might want to try google books; I haven't used them for a while so don't know where they hide the buttons these days, but you can do a search in google and then somewhere is a button that gets you to just books and then on that page "should" be another button that will limit your hits to books you can download. Sometimes I get info from books that are just in review because the ?blurb Google posts to tease you into buying the book has enough info to answer my question, even if the actual page isn't there. If the page comes up, but the book is not downloadable I usually just steal the page with a right click and "save image to" or if they have that option defeated you can also zoom in till you good large text of what you want and then do an <alt> <print screen> and save the screen shot, if you don't have any other graphics program to work with it in it is possible to manipulate it in paint; select and copy[<ctr cl> the text you want, open a new file and paste the cropped image into it [<ctrl v>] If you prefer to print that image either save [save as .jpg gives much smaller file size] the file and print it from Windows picture and fax viewer. If you choose to print it from paint make sure you go to page setup in the "File" menu and down in the lower right corner "Fit to" should be set to 1 by 1 pages. I have no idea why paint was created to do what it does with an image, I forget this detail once in a while and end up with a 4 inch by 6 inch image on four sheets of paper. Programmer must have had shares in a paper company. 


? 


Les C 

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From: Graydon Miller <joangrady at comcast.net> 
Subject: [or-roots] passenger lists to Portland 
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 8:57 PM 


Question 
Is there a source for names of passengers on ships from San Francisco to Portland durning the years 1850-1852? 
graydon miller 
joangrady at comcast.net 

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From royblaine at msn.com  Wed Oct 19 17:32:22 2011
From: royblaine at msn.com (Roy Blaine)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:32:22 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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Dale, Is it possible you drove from Pendleton to Heppner by way of Pilot Rock and over Franklin Summit?  By your description, the most likely cemetery you describe is the Vinson cemetery which is not on Hiway 74 at all, but it is near Butter Creek.

Roy N. Blaine


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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:03:00 -0400
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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Dale,
I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the Oregon Historic Cemeteries 
Commission. Kuri Gill who is in charge of the program is very knowledgeable 
about old cemeteries in the state. It is ironic that they Commission just had 
their quarterly meeting in Weston this past weekend. Go to the Heritage 
Commission website and then to historic cemeteries.
 
State of Oregon: Oregon Parks 
& Recreation Department: Heritage Programs 
 
Linda VanOrden
Junction City, OR
 

In a message dated 10/18/2011 12:47:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
daleharguess4 at gmail.com writes:
Both 
  good ideas, thanks.


  On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
  wrote:

  
    Dale, the other option would be to 
    list the name of the headstone that you photographed and perhaps someone in 
    that area would recognize it OR search find-a-grave for that name and if it 
    is listed, find the name of the cemetery where it is buried.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm  
    Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you 
    might find the name there.

Sue



On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, 
    SAWYER, Layne G wrote: 
    
      
      Dale,
       
      The 
      Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries, perhaps 
      checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that 
      don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient 
      yourself from the road you were on when you encountered the 
      site.
       
      Layne
       
      
      From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On 
      Behalf Of Dale Harguess
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 
      AM
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] 
      Today Oct 18 2011
       
      
      I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla 
      Walla and went to a family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It 
      was hot in Walla Walla while I was there but then on Monday we headed out 
      toward Pendleton through Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and 
      was quite pleasant.  By the time I got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped 
      over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed and when I left for home on 
      Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.  Very nice to not have 
      been snowed in as I was leery of that.
      
      I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North 
      East of Heppner.  It was out in a field behind two fences.  I 
      walked up to it and took a picture of one of the very large stones.  
      I don't know if I can attach pictures to this site or not.  I wish I 
      knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I would have written down 
      the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot of stones in 
      it.
      
      Does anyone out there know the name of this 
      cemetery?
      
      Dale in California
      
      

 
      
      On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:
      
      
       Well, seems quiet 
      here.
      
          Its been colder out side, I 
      spose more folks will be online soon.
      
      Been freezing up here in the outback where we 
      live.
      
      Dan M
      
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:38:23 -0700
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Careful :-) That's Doherty.  Again, if it's right on the main road, and if you call Franklin Hill a main road, the only one right on the road that meets your description and has a bunch of Dohertys and some Vinsons in it is the Vinson cemetery.

Roy N. Blaine


 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:03:01 -0700
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com
To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner

Could have been.  There was no name on the cemetery and I was traveling towards Heppner from Walla Walla.  I will look at the map I have at home to see if this is the name of the road.  I did go to findagrave and there were a lot of Dougherty's buried in several cemeteries in the vicinity.  I have a really good picture of the stone which says, "mother and father" and I could shoot myself for not going inside the gate and taking more pictures but I am afraid of snakes and there were a lot of holes around so I stayed on the path.

Dale


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Nancy Lee Adams <nancydean at columbia-center.org> wrote:



Here's a surname Dougherty in Heppner, OR.  Was the cem. near this area?
Dougherty Ranch
66317 Spur Loop Rd
Heppner, OR 97836
Phone: 541-676-9737
 
Nancy 
 

 


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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner




I looked at the picture again and even though it is a pretty good picture I'm not sure of the spelling of the name.  It was Dougherty and I remember there were a lot of the stones with that name as well as a couple of other names.  Even though it is out in the middle of a wheat field it looks like it is visited often.  There is a clear path to the gate and fake flowers on some of the graves.  It is in a pretty desolate place.  Nice fence though.



On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net> wrote:


Dale, the other option would be to list the name of the headstone that you photographed and perhaps someone in that area would recognize it OR search find-a-grave for that name and if it is listed, find the name of the cemetery where it is buried.


http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ormorrow/morrow_county_oregon_cemeteries.htm  Also many of the Morrow County Cemeteries have been transcribed and you might find the name there.


Sue



On 10/18/2011 11:09 AM, SAWYER, Layne G wrote: 


Dale,
 
The Findagrave site often has pictures of the entrance to cemeteries, perhaps checking that would reveal the name of the cemetery.  Those that don?t have photos sometimes have at least a map attached to orient yourself from the road you were on when you encountered the site.

 
Layne
 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess

Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:55 AM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Today Oct 18 2011
 

I got out just in time, I think.  I was in Walla Walla and went to a family reunion in Milton-Freewater on Oct. 1.  It was hot in Walla Walla while I was there but then on Monday we headed out toward Pendleton through Heppner.  It was starting to cool off and was quite pleasant.  By the time I got to Reno, Nevada it had dropped over 20 degrees.  On Thursday it snowed and when I left for home on Saturday, Oct. 8 the Sierras were all white.  Very nice to not have been snowed in as I was leery of that.


I bumped into an unmarked cemetery just a little North East of Heppner.  It was out in a field behind two fences.  I walked up to it and took a picture of one of the very large stones.  I don't know if I can attach pictures to this site or not.  I wish I knew the name of the cemetery and I also wish I would have written down the names I saw.  It wasn't very large but had a lot of stones in it.


Does anyone out there know the name of this cemetery?

Dale in California



 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:30 AM, James-admin <mygenrw2 at gmail.com> wrote:


 Well, seems quiet here.

    Its been colder out side, I spose more folks will be online soon.

Been freezing up here in the outback where we live.

Dan M

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From opera_70 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 20 09:02:17 2011
From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:02:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Cemetery North East of Heppner
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Roy; you definitely have the right cemetery, I did post the finda grave info on it yesterday.
In looking at the location (which according to Google Earth is Oregon 74 also known as Heppner Highway and becomes 395 about 8 miles out of Pilot Rock) I found a picture of Vinson taken in 1968. The photographer ?has a lot of late fifties into the '70's photos posted on Panaramio and I thought some of you who had family from NE Oregon might get lucky and find long lost family farms photos if you look at his stuff. I asked him if people could contact him and hope he doesn't regret agreeing to it.
http://www.panoramio.com/user/4585806
Is his?Panoramio?page and there is a "private message" link on the right side of the page. His name is Pat Cassidy and I highly recommend his pages just for the joy of his photography.
I also suggest for those who have not done so, if you have a place near and dear to your hearts that you no longer are able to visit; check it out on Google Earth. If you have any kind of decent computer connection, even dial up with a halfway decent computer you can see a lot of stuff. It will be slow on dial-up I am sure though as it takes about a minute to load on my system.
Les C

--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Roy Blaine <royblaine at msn.com> wrote:

From: Roy Blaine <royblaine at msn.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 5:32 PM






Dale,
?
Is it possible you drove from Pendleton to Heppner by way of Pilot Rock and over Franklin Summit?? By your description, the most likely cemetery you describe is the Vinson cemetery which is not on Hiway 74 at all, but it is near Butter Creek.

Roy N. Blaine


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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 16:19:42 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:19:42 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Early divorces in Oregon
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I am trying to find out how, if possible to find a couple of divorce
records.  One of them is an Emanuel Horner who got divorced from his first
wife Lucintha Jane Stillwell sometime before 1860.   Then I am also looking
for a divorce from a Lavina Johns from a John Phillip F. Johns probably
before 1870.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
I also am looking for Emanuels marriage record to Lavina.
Thanks,
Dale in California
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From beavert53 at aol.com  Fri Oct 21 16:30:23 2011
From: beavert53 at aol.com (beavert53 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:30:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Early divorces in Oregon
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The Oregon State Archives has a copy of Emanuel & Lucintha's divorce  
record--1854, Washington County
 
Vicki
 
 
In a message dated 10/21/2011 4:19:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
daleharguess4 at gmail.com writes:

I am trying to find out how, if possible to find a couple of divorce  
records.  One of them is an Emanuel Horner who got divorced from his  first wife 
Lucintha Jane Stillwell sometime before 1860.   Then I am  also looking for 
a divorce from a Lavina Johns from a John Phillip F. Johns  probably before 
1870.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
I also am looking for Emanuels marriage record to Lavina.
Thanks,
Dale in  California


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From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us  Fri Oct 21 16:33:01 2011
From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (SAWYER, Layne G)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:33:01 +0000
Subject: [or-roots] Early divorces in Oregon
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Dale,

If you check the Oregon Historical Records Index at

http://genealogy.state.or.us/

you will find the information regarding Emanuel Horner?s divorce from his first wife.  You can request copies from the Reference Staff at:

archives.reference at state.or.us<mailto:archives.reference at state.or.us>

If you know the county were Lavina and John Philip Johns divorced you can check the Oregon Historical County Records Guide and determine what records exist and how to contact the courts.

http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/pages/records/local/county/index.html

Divorces before 1946 would only be found as Circuit Court records.  After 1946 you might also find a Divorce return filed with the Vital Records office in Portland.  The Divorce returns older than 50 years can be accessed through the Reference Staff at the State Archives as well.


Good luck in your hunt.

Regards,

Layne Sawyer
?list mom?
Oregon State Archives
From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Dale Harguess
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I am trying to find out how, if possible to find a couple of divorce records.  One of them is an Emanuel Horner who got divorced from his first wife Lucintha Jane Stillwell sometime before 1860.   Then I am also looking for a divorce from a Lavina Johns from a John Phillip F. Johns probably before 1870.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
I also am looking for Emanuels marriage record to Lavina.
Thanks,
Dale in California
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Fri Oct 21 16:34:05 2011
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:34:05 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Early divorces in Oregon
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    This one is available from the State Archives.


    Oregon Historical Records Index Detail Information

*Case#* 	0545
*Name* 	Horner, Lucintha vs Horner, Emanuel
*Date* 	1854
*Record Type* 	Divorce
*County* 	Washington
*Source* 	County



On 10/21/2011 4:19 PM, Dale Harguess wrote:
> I am trying to find out how, if possible to find a couple of divorce 
> records.  One of them is an Emanuel Horner who got divorced from his 
> first wife Lucintha Jane Stillwell sometime before 1860.   Then I am 
> also looking for a divorce from a Lavina Johns from a John Phillip F. 
> Johns probably before 1870.
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> I also am looking for Emanuels marriage record to Lavina.
> Thanks,
> Dale in California
>
>

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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 16:47:44 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:47:44 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Early divorces in Oregon
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Thank you, that was really quick.  I just love this group.
Dale

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:30 PM, <beavert53 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
> The Oregon State Archives has a copy of Emanuel & Lucintha's divorce
> record--1854, Washington County
>
> Vicki
>
>   In a message dated 10/21/2011 4:19:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> daleharguess4 at gmail.com writes:
>
>   I am trying to find out how, if possible to find a couple of divorce
> records.  One of them is an Emanuel Horner who got divorced from his first
> wife Lucintha Jane Stillwell sometime before 1860.   Then I am also looking
> for a divorce from a Lavina Johns from a John Phillip F. Johns probably
> before 1870.
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> I also am looking for Emanuels marriage record to Lavina.
> Thanks,
> Dale in California
>
>
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From barbhg1221 at comcast.net  Fri Oct 21 17:15:32 2011
From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:15:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <CAPG4UJah_B6Hk=H6yS8-3fVsbTFTO+AXEnegvcHSd0YN2UTW_Q@mail.gmail.com>
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For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of evenings ago that?their Oregon Death Index has been updated.? It now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.? 



Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index.? It now also goes through 2008.? I have found some holes in this index and the need to be careful with the county it lists.? For example, my marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s, but I was married in Lane Co.? The index has Benton Co. which is where the marriage information was returned to not where the marriage took place.? However, while my daughter's marriage license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index is not consistent.? With these caveats, I am finding the index very useful. 



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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Fri Oct 21 18:38:51 2011
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:38:51 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <1945020518.725565.1319242532444.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1945020518.725565.1319242532444.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4EA21EAB.90400@ccountry.net>

You're right, there are still holes in it.  Also on the 1906-1920 there 
is still no link between the bridge and groom, you can pull up the 
groom's name but unless you know the bride's name and search for that 
you are out of luck if you are trying to find a maiden name, etc. of the 
bride.

Sue

On 10/21/2011 5:15 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>
> For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of 
> evenings ago that their Oregon Death Index has been updated.  It now 
> goes through 2008 rather than 1998.
>
> Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index.  It now also 
> goes through 2008.  I have found some holes in this index and the need 
> to be careful with the county it lists.  For example, my marriage 
> license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s, but I was 
> married in Lane Co.  The index has Benton Co. which is where the 
> marriage information was returned to not where the marriage took 
> place.  However, while my daughter's marriage license was taken out in 
> Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was married in Lane Co., the 
> index lists Lane Co. for her so the index is not consistent.  With 
> these caveats, I am finding the index very useful.
>
> Barbara Herring
>
>
>
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From barbhg1221 at comcast.net  Fri Oct 21 18:59:11 2011
From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:59:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <4EA21EAB.90400@ccountry.net>
Message-ID: <1703860627.728313.1319248751627.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>



Sue, 

On the 1906-1920 Marriage index, if I have the groom's name and have found the date he married, I have had some luck searching on just the county and date to fi nd the bride.? Of course, finding multiple brides can be aggravating, but it can narrow it down. 

Barbara 



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From: "Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:38:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index 

You're right, there are still holes in it.? Also on the 1906-1920 there is still no link between the bridge and groom, you can pull up the groom's name but unless you know the bride's name and search for that you are out of luck if you are trying to find a maiden name, etc. of the bride. 

Sue 

On 10/21/2011 5:15 PM, Barbara Herring wrote: 




For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of evenings ago that?their Oregon Death Index has been updated.? It now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.? 

? 

Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index.? It now also goes through 2008.? I have found some holes in this index and the need to be careful with the county it lists.? For example, my marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s, but I was married in Lane Co.? The index has Benton Co. which is where the marriage information was returned to not where the marriage took place.? However, while my daughter's marriage license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index is not consistent.? With these caveats, I am finding the index very useful. 

? 

Barbara Herring 

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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Fri Oct 21 19:22:05 2011
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:22:05 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <1703860627.728313.1319248751627.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <4EA228CD.2050208@ccountry.net>

Thanks, Barbara.  Yes, I have done that too.

I checked our marriage on the new additions, it shows the date of 
getting the license rather than the date of marriage.  It doesn't 
indicate a county at all.

Sue

On 10/21/2011 6:59 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>
> Sue,
>
> On the 1906-1920 Marriage index, if I have the groom's name and have 
> found the date he married, I have had some luck searching on just the 
> county and date to find the bride.  Of course, finding multiple brides 
> can be aggravating, but it can narrow it down.
>
> Barbara
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
> *To: *"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> *Sent: *Friday, October 21, 2011 6:38:51 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
>
> You're right, there are still holes in it.  Also on the 1906-1920 
> there is still no link between the bridge and groom, you can pull up 
> the groom's name but unless you know the bride's name and search for 
> that you are out of luck if you are trying to find a maiden name, etc. 
> of the bride.
>
> Sue
>
> On 10/21/2011 5:15 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>
>     For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of
>     evenings ago that their Oregon Death Index has been updated.  It
>     now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.
>
>     Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index.  It now
>     also goes through 2008.  I have found some holes in this index and
>     the need to be careful with the county it lists.  For example, my
>     marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s,
>     but I was married in Lane Co.  The index has Benton Co. which is
>     where the marriage information was returned to not where the
>     marriage took place.  However, while my daughter's marriage
>     license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was
>     married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index
>     is not consistent.  With these caveats, I am finding the index
>     very useful.
>
>     Barbara Herring
>
>
>
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From Wulf at bendbroadband.com  Fri Oct 21 20:21:22 2011
From: Wulf at bendbroadband.com (Barbara Wulf)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:21:22 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Ancestry.com
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Has anyone heard when ancestry.com is releasing the 1940 Census?

Barbara Wulf
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From dsam52 at sampubco.com  Fri Oct 21 20:35:41 2011
From: dsam52 at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:35:41 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <4EA228CD.2050208@ccountry.net>
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Somebody please look up for me

Sherril Lynn Curtis. I know she married in month of Jan. I need exact 
date of license - in Baker County. Married after 1998 but before 2005.

this is my own sister who gave my whole family the cold shoulder.

David S.

On 10/21/2011 8:22 PM, Sue Steward wrote:
> Thanks, Barbara. Yes, I have done that too.
>
> I checked our marriage on the new additions, it shows the date of
> getting the license rather than the date of marriage. It doesn't
> indicate a county at all.
>
> Sue
>
> On 10/21/2011 6:59 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>>
>> Sue,
>>
>> On the 1906-1920 Marriage index, if I have the groom's name and have
>> found the date he married, I have had some luck searching on just the
>> county and date to find the bride. Of course, finding multiple brides
>> can be aggravating, but it can narrow it down.
>>
>> Barbara
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
>> *To: *"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> *Sent: *Friday, October 21, 2011 6:38:51 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
>>
>> You're right, there are still holes in it. Also on the 1906-1920 there
>> is still no link between the bridge and groom, you can pull up the
>> groom's name but unless you know the bride's name and search for that
>> you are out of luck if you are trying to find a maiden name, etc. of
>> the bride.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> On 10/21/2011 5:15 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>>
>> For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of
>> evenings ago that their Oregon Death Index has been updated. It
>> now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.
>>
>> Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index. It now
>> also goes through 2008. I have found some holes in this index and
>> the need to be careful with the county it lists. For example, my
>> marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s,
>> but I was married in Lane Co. The index has Benton Co. which is
>> where the marriage information was returned to not where the
>> marriage took place. However, while my daughter's marriage
>> license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was
>> married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index
>> is not consistent. With these caveats, I am finding the index
>> very useful.
>>
>> Barbara Herring
>>
>>
>>
>> _____________________________________________________
>> or-roots mailing list
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>> content.
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>> owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email.
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
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From dsam52 at sampubco.com  Fri Oct 21 20:39:31 2011
From: dsam52 at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:39:31 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <1945020518.725565.1319242532444.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1945020518.725565.1319242532444.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4EA23AF3.5040603@sampubco.com>

better results at 
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1675533

at least you see more information FREE.

David S.

On 10/21/2011 6:15 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>
>
> For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of evenings ago that their Oregon Death Index has been updated.  It now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.
>
>
>
> Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index.  It now also goes through 2008.  I have found some holes in this index and the need to be careful with the county it lists.  For example, my marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s, but I was married in Lane Co.  The index has Benton Co. which is where the marriage information was returned to not where the marriage took place.  However, while my daughter's marriage license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index is not consistent.  With these caveats, I am finding the index very useful.
>
>
>
> Barbara Herring
>
>
>
> _____________________________________________________
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From psinjun at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 21 21:08:48 2011
From: psinjun at yahoo.com (Penny/Leigh)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:08:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Emma Langworthy
Message-ID: <1319256528.78447.YahooMailNeo@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks to a link someone listed I found many newspaper articles that were very helpful. ?However, I now have a problem and need help.

The 1890 Veteran's schedule shows Andrew and Emma Langworthy living at Long Tom, Lane County.
The Oregon State Archives for September 24, 1891 shows Emma being committed to the Hawthorne Asylum.
The Eugene City Guard dated September 26, 1891 states that the cause ?of Emma's insanity is domestic troubles. ?It also says Andrew and the children were living on Lake creek.
The Eugene City Guard dated March 10, 1893 shows Andrew and Emma's divorce being granted.

The "Langworthy Family: some descendants of Andrew and Rachel (Hubbard) Langworthy" by W. F. Langworthy (1940) shows Emma dying March 9, 1893.
By 1900, Andrew had moved the children back to Michigan to the family farm.

I know enough about the errors in the Langworthy book to figure out that someone probably gave the date of Emma's exit from the family and it was construed as death. ?My problem is that I haven't been able to find Emma's death or her grave. ?I just can't believe that her divorce was granted and she died right away. ?I have sent for divorce papers, have searched through all the cemeteries in the area, even contacted funeral homes trying to figure out what happened to Emma. ?Emma was born in 1854 so she could have lived many more years and could have been released and remarried. ?I am simply at a loss as to where to search next. ?I would appreciate any help.

Penny Langworthy Saintjohn
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Fri Oct 21 21:09:27 2011
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:09:27 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <4EA23A0D.9050407@sampubco.com>
References: <1703860627.728313.1319248751627.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<4EA228CD.2050208@ccountry.net> <4EA23A0D.9050407@sampubco.com>
Message-ID: <4EA241F7.2090108@ccountry.net>


    Oregon, Marriage Indexes, 1906-2008Oregon, Marriage Indexes, 1906-2008

Name: 	Sherril Lynn Curtis
Spouse's Name: 	Leslie Eldon Corning
Marriage Date: 	8 Feb 2000
County: 	Baker


On 10/21/2011 8:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote:
> Somebody please look up for me
>
> Sherril Lynn Curtis. I know she married in month of Jan. I need exact 
> date of license - in Baker County. Married after 1998 but before 2005.
>
> this is my own sister who gave my whole family the cold shoulder.
>
> David S.
>
> On 10/21/2011 8:22 PM, Sue Steward wrote:
>> Thanks, Barbara. Yes, I have done that too.
>>
>> I checked our marriage on the new additions, it shows the date of
>> getting the license rather than the date of marriage. It doesn't
>> indicate a county at all.
>>
>> Sue
>>
>> On 10/21/2011 6:59 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>>>
>>> Sue,
>>>
>>> On the 1906-1920 Marriage index, if I have the groom's name and have
>>> found the date he married, I have had some luck searching on just the
>>> county and date to find the bride. Of course, finding multiple brides
>>> can be aggravating, but it can narrow it down.
>>>
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *"Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
>>> *To: *"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>> *Sent: *Friday, October 21, 2011 6:38:51 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
>>>
>>> You're right, there are still holes in it. Also on the 1906-1920 there
>>> is still no link between the bridge and groom, you can pull up the
>>> groom's name but unless you know the bride's name and search for that
>>> you are out of luck if you are trying to find a maiden name, etc. of
>>> the bride.
>>>
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2011 5:15 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of
>>> evenings ago that their Oregon Death Index has been updated. It
>>> now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.
>>>
>>> Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index. It now
>>> also goes through 2008. I have found some holes in this index and
>>> the need to be careful with the county it lists. For example, my
>>> marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s,
>>> but I was married in Lane Co. The index has Benton Co. which is
>>> where the marriage information was returned to not where the
>>> marriage took place. However, while my daughter's marriage
>>> license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was
>>> married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index
>>> is not consistent. With these caveats, I am finding the index
>>> very useful.
>>>
>>> Barbara Herring
>>>
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From DeniseSproed at onlinenw.com  Fri Oct 21 21:10:08 2011
From: DeniseSproed at onlinenw.com (Denise Sproed)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:10:08 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
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Thanks for sharing news that the indexes have been updated.  Time to do some more of the recent searching.

 

Denise Sproed

A member of the Association of Professional Genealogists

 

The web page I made for my parents is at:  http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~merritt/

 

My genealogy related pages are at:
http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merritt/
and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~merritt/
The latter created using John Cardinal's Second Site

 

User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) http://www.whollygenes.com/

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Barbara Herring
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:16 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index

 

For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of evenings ago that their Oregon Death Index has been updated.  It now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.  

 

Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index.  It now also goes through 2008.  I have found some holes in this index and the need to be careful with the county it lists.  For example, my marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s, but I was married in Lane Co.  The index has Benton Co. which is where the marriage information was returned to not where the marriage took place.  However, while my daughter's marriage license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index is not consistent.  With these caveats, I am finding the index very useful.

 

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From psinjun at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 21 21:11:44 2011
From: psinjun at yahoo.com (Penny/Leigh)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:11:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] 1940 census release date
In-Reply-To: <C256CEDA61204A9D96F917CB66CB9DB7@Athena>
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The 1940 census will be released April of 2012. ?I would think that Ancestry.com would have it soon after.

Penny Langworthy Saintjohn


________________________________
From: Barbara Wulf <Wulf at bendbroadband.com>
To: or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:21 PM
Subject: [or-roots] Ancestry.com


 
Has anyone heard when ancestry.com is releasing the 
1940 Census?
?
Barbara Wulf
Bend Oregon
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From ssteward at ccountry.net  Fri Oct 21 21:41:28 2011
From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:41:28 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Emma Langworthy
In-Reply-To: <1319256528.78447.YahooMailNeo@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1319256528.78447.YahooMailNeo@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4EA24978.4010801@ccountry.net>

If Andrew filed for the divorce, that may indicate she was still 
committed to the asylum.

Have you checked to see if she possibly died at the asylum?  They had a 
lot of unclaimed cremains at the new hospital in Salem.

Sue



On 10/21/2011 9:08 PM, Penny/Leigh wrote:
> Thanks to a link someone listed I found many newspaper articles that 
> were very helpful.  However, I now have a problem and need help.
>
> The 1890 Veteran's schedule shows Andrew and Emma Langworthy living at 
> Long Tom, Lane County.
> The Oregon State Archives for September 24, 1891 shows Emma being 
> committed to the Hawthorne Asylum.
> The Eugene City Guard dated September 26, 1891 states that the cause 
>  of Emma's insanity is domestic troubles.  It also says Andrew and the 
> children were living on Lake creek.
> The Eugene City Guard dated March 10, 1893 shows Andrew and Emma's 
> divorce being granted.
> The "Langworthy Family: some descendants of Andrew and Rachel 
> (Hubbard) Langworthy" by W. F. Langworthy (1940) shows Emma dying 
> March 9, 1893.
> By 1900, Andrew had moved the children back to Michigan to the family 
> farm.
>
> I know enough about the errors in the Langworthy book to figure out 
> that someone probably gave the date of Emma's exit from the family and 
> it was construed as death.  My problem is that I haven't been able to 
> find Emma's death or her grave.  I just can't believe that her divorce 
> was granted and she died right away.  I have sent for divorce papers, 
> have searched through all the cemeteries in the area, even contacted 
> funeral homes trying to figure out what happened to Emma.  Emma was 
> born in 1854 so she could have lived many more years and could have 
> been released and remarried.  I am simply at a loss as to where to 
> search next.  I would appreciate any help.
>
> Penny Langworthy Saintjohn
>
>
>
>
>
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From psinjun at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 21 22:01:24 2011
From: psinjun at yahoo.com (Penny/Leigh)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Emma Langworthy
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Thanks Sue, ?I have been through all the asylum research. ?I have talked to them on the phone and they are the ones who directed me to the funeral home. ?If she died at the asylum there is no record and if her cremains exist they are among the ones with no label. ?

It was finding the divorce listed in the paper that made me think she might have been released from the hospital after Andrew left the area and she may have remarried or moved away. ?I have checked the census under both her married and her maiden (Kellogg) names.

Penny


________________________________
From: Sue Steward <ssteward at ccountry.net>
To: Penny/Leigh <psinjun at yahoo.com>; or-roots mail list <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Emma Langworthy


If Andrew filed for the divorce, that may indicate she was still committed to the asylum.

Have you checked to see if she possibly died at the asylum?? They
    had a lot of unclaimed cremains at the new hospital in Salem.

Sue



On 10/21/2011 9:08 PM, Penny/Leigh wrote: 
Thanks to a link someone listed I found many newspaper articles that were very helpful. ?However, I now have a problem and need help.
>
>
>The 1890 Veteran's schedule shows Andrew and Emma Langworthy living at Long Tom, Lane County.
>The Oregon State Archives for September 24, 1891 shows Emma being committed to the Hawthorne Asylum.
>The Eugene City Guard dated September 26, 1891 states that the cause ?of Emma's insanity is domestic troubles. ?It also says Andrew and the children were living on Lake creek.
>The Eugene City Guard dated March 10, 1893 shows Andrew and Emma's divorce being granted.
>
>The "Langworthy Family: some descendants of Andrew and Rachel (Hubbard) Langworthy" by W. F. Langworthy (1940) shows Emma dying March 9, 1893.
>By 1900, Andrew had moved the children back to Michigan to the family farm.
>
>
>I know enough about the errors in the Langworthy book to figure out that someone probably gave the date of Emma's exit from the family and it was construed as death. ?My problem is that I haven't been able to find Emma's death or her grave. ?I just can't believe that her divorce was granted and she died right away. ?I have sent for divorce papers, have searched through all the cemeteries in the area, even contacted funeral homes trying to figure out what happened to Emma. ?Emma was born in 1854 so she could have lived many more years and could have been released and remarried. ?I am simply at a loss as to where to search next. ?I would appreciate any help.
>
>
>Penny Langworthy Saintjohn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net  Sat Oct 22 08:26:44 2011
From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:26:44 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
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Message-ID: <05fa01cc90cf$01969ea0$04c3dbe0$@net>

So, what you do is work around. Put in the date of the marriage and county,
no names.

 

See what pops up. If more than one couple, you'll have to go further to
census to separate them out.

 

Pat

In Tucson

 

From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:39 PM
To: or-roots mail list
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index

 

You're right, there are still holes in it.  Also on the 1906-1920 there is
still no link between the bridge and groom, you can pull up the groom's name
but unless you know the bride's name and search for that you are out of luck
if you are trying to find a maiden name, etc. of the bride.

Sue



 

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From Wulf at bendbroadband.com  Sat Oct 22 08:40:47 2011
From: Wulf at bendbroadband.com (Barbara Wulf)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:40:47 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] 1940 Census through the National Archives
Message-ID: <BD92CE96F34F4CE59A603E6E1C362FEE@Athena>

http://blogs.archives.gov/online-public-access/?p=5500
Are You Preparing for the 1940 Census? We are!
Do you have the opening of the 1940 Census on April 2, 2012 marked on your calendar? We do here at the National Archives. 

For past Census releases we provided access to the Census on microfilm. For the 1940 Census we will be providing free online access. You'll be able to search on the internet using the public computers in our research rooms or your own computer. Our Digitization Lab has completed the digitization of the 1940 Census, creating over 3.8 million digital images of Census schedules, maps, and enumeration district descriptions. In addition we have indexed the Census schedules to the enumeration district level

NOW I can stop trying to figure out how to get access to the 1940 census records. 

Barb Wulf
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From dsam52 at sampubco.com  Sat Oct 22 12:39:00 2011
From: dsam52 at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:39:00 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
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References: <1703860627.728313.1319248751627.JavaMail.root@sz0040a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
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Thanks!!!!

David Samuelsen

On 10/21/2011 10:09 PM, Sue Steward wrote:
>
> Oregon, Marriage Indexes, 1906-2008Oregon, Marriage Indexes, 1906-2008
>
> Name: Sherril Lynn Curtis
> Spouse's Name: Leslie Eldon Corning
> Marriage Date: 8 Feb 2000
> County: Baker
>
>
> On 10/21/2011 8:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote:
>> Somebody please look up for me
>>
>> Sherril Lynn Curtis. I know she married in month of Jan. I need exact
>> date of license - in Baker County. Married after 1998 but before 2005.
>>
>> this is my own sister who gave my whole family the cold shoulder.
>>
>> David S.
>>
>> On 10/21/2011 8:22 PM, Sue Steward wrote:
>>> Thanks, Barbara. Yes, I have done that too.
>>>
>>> I checked our marriage on the new additions, it shows the date of
>>> getting the license rather than the date of marriage. It doesn't
>>> indicate a county at all.
>>>
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2011 6:59 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sue,
>>>>
>>>> On the 1906-1920 Marriage index, if I have the groom's name and have
>>>> found the date he married, I have had some luck searching on just the
>>>> county and date to find the bride. Of course, finding multiple brides
>>>> can be aggravating, but it can narrow it down.
>>>>
>>>> Barbara
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Sue Steward" <ssteward at ccountry.net>
>>>> *To: *"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, October 21, 2011 6:38:51 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Oregon Death Index & Marriage Index
>>>>
>>>> You're right, there are still holes in it. Also on the 1906-1920 there
>>>> is still no link between the bridge and groom, you can pull up the
>>>> groom's name but unless you know the bride's name and search for that
>>>> you are out of luck if you are trying to find a maiden name, etc. of
>>>> the bride.
>>>>
>>>> Sue
>>>>
>>>> On 10/21/2011 5:15 PM, Barbara Herring wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For those of you that have Ancestry.com, I noticed a couple of
>>>> evenings ago that their Oregon Death Index has been updated. It
>>>> now goes through 2008 rather than 1998.
>>>>
>>>> Also, they have greatly expanded Oregon's Marriage Index. It now
>>>> also goes through 2008. I have found some holes in this index and
>>>> the need to be careful with the county it lists. For example, my
>>>> marriage license was taken out in Benton Co. in the late 1960s,
>>>> but I was married in Lane Co. The index has Benton Co. which is
>>>> where the marriage information was returned to not where the
>>>> marriage took place. However, while my daughter's marriage
>>>> license was taken out in Yamhill Co. in the mid 1990s and she was
>>>> married in Lane Co., the index lists Lane Co. for her so the index
>>>> is not consistent. With these caveats, I am finding the index
>>>> very useful.
>>>>
>>>> Barbara Herring
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________________
>>>> or-roots mailing list
>>>> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
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From opera_70 at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 22 21:43:39 2011
From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:43:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Family Search Oregon Marriage Index
In-Reply-To: <4EA23AF3.5040603@sampubco.com>
Message-ID: <1319345019.41010.YahooMailClassic@web160912.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

For those who have not tried Family search's new data bases I highly recommend them, but as with Ancestry and other info, there are things missing from Family Search data bases.?
It is actually kind of strange as sometimes I can follow a whole family for a couple of generations and get almost all birth, marriage and death info, while another line might be in the same general area and I get nothing or next to nothing from the same search engines. To a certain extent I think it depends on whether LDS has obtained church records for the church my family went to as a lot of the time what they have is actually Church records and it is not always?identified?as such.
Les C



From: W David Samuelsen <dsam52 at sampubco.com>
Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 8:39 PM

better results at 
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1675533

at least you see more information FREE.

David S.
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From PMML at MERITEL.NET  Sun Oct 23 13:26:10 2011
From: PMML at MERITEL.NET (Marsha BradleyLuthy)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:26:10 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Family Search Oregon Marriage Index
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On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> For those who have not tried Family search's new data bases I highly
> recommend them, but as with Ancestry and other info, there are things
> missing from Family Search data bases.
>
> It is actually kind of strange as sometimes I can follow a whole family for
> a couple of generations and get almost all birth, marriage and death info,
> while another line might be in the same general area and I get nothing or
> next to nothing from the same search engines. To a certain extent I think it
> depends on whether LDS has obtained church records for the church my family
> went to as a lot of the time what they have is actually Church records and
> it is not always identified as such.
>
> Les C
>
> I just joined and find they have my info; I gave my neice, but not much in
> the way of new info.
>
>
> From: W David Samuelsen <dsam52 at sampubco.com>
> Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 8:39 PM
>
> better results at
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1675533
>
> at least you see more information FREE.
>
> David S.
>
>
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From PMML at MERITEL.NET  Sun Oct 23 16:24:40 2011
From: PMML at MERITEL.NET (Marsha BradleyLuthy)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:24:40 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Emma Langworthy
In-Reply-To: <1319256528.78447.YahooMailNeo@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1319256528.78447.YahooMailNeo@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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women need not stay single long.  If they were single they were often found
with one of their children...................?

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Penny/Leigh <psinjun at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks to a link someone listed I found many newspaper articles that were
> very helpful.  However, I now have a problem and need help.
>
> The 1890 Veteran's schedule shows Andrew and Emma Langworthy living at Long
> Tom, Lane County.
> The Oregon State Archives for September 24, 1891 shows Emma being committed
> to the Hawthorne Asylum.
> The Eugene City Guard dated September 26, 1891 states that the cause  of
> Emma's insanity is domestic troubles.  It also says Andrew and the children
> were living on Lake creek.
> The Eugene City Guard dated March 10, 1893 shows Andrew and Emma's divorce
> being granted.
> The "Langworthy Family: some descendants of Andrew and Rachel (Hubbard)
> Langworthy" by W. F. Langworthy (1940) shows Emma dying March 9, 1893.
> By 1900, Andrew had moved the children back to Michigan to the family farm.
>
> I know enough about the errors in the Langworthy book to figure out that
> someone probably gave the date of Emma's exit from the family and it was
> construed as death.  My problem is that I haven't been able to find Emma's
> death or her grave.  I just can't believe that her divorce was granted and
> she died right away.  I have sent for divorce papers, have searched through
> all the cemeteries in the area, even contacted funeral homes trying to
> figure out what happened to Emma.  Emma was born in 1854 so she could have
> lived many more years and could have been released and remarried.  I am
> simply at a loss as to where to search next.  I would appreciate any help.
>
> Penny Langworthy Saintjohn
>
>
>
>
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From opera_70 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 09:45:59 2011
From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:45:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family Search he is in?
name:	?James Arthurresidence:	, Nevada, Californiaward:	? ? ? ? ?Bloomfield Township
Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part of the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage Quest, there isn't any Nevada.?
If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or their lack?
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From gugin1013 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 10:20:22 2011
From: gugin1013 at gmail.com (Virginia Roberts)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:20:22 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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Nevada was part of the Utah Territory in 1860.  You will find the census
info in Utah, for exaple  those living in Carson County are Carson County,
Utah.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family
> Search he is in
>
>  name:  James Arthur
> residence: , Nevada, California
> ward:          Bloomfield Township
>
> Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part of
> the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what
> inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage
> Quest, there isn't any Nevada.
>
> If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or
> their lack?
>
> Les C
>
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From opera_70 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 24 10:24:17 2011
From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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Thank you Virginia; history buff that I am I should have known that, but I assumed it was Nevada territory and it just wasn't there. ?I think HQ used to let you search it as Nevada as I would swear I have found people in the 1860 Census before, but maybe I have bunch of people in Utah that belong in Nevada. I don't have a lot of people in my family file from the Intermountain Basin, so maybe just never hit this before.?
thanks?again
Les C

--- On Mon, 10/24/11, Virginia Roberts <gugin1013 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Virginia Roberts <gugin1013 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
Date: Monday, October 24, 2011, 10:20 AM

Nevada was part of the Utah Territory in 1860.? You will find the census info in Utah, for exaple? those living in Carson County are Carson County, Utah.


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com> wrote:





I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family Search he is in? 



name: ?James Arthur
residence: , Nevada, California
ward: ? ? ? ? ?Bloomfield Township


Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part of the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage Quest, there isn't any Nevada.?



If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or their lack?


Les C
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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 10:39:38 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:39:38 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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Probably because Nevada didn't become a state until 1864.
Dale

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family
> Search he is in
>
>  name:  James Arthur
> residence: , Nevada, California
> ward:          Bloomfield Township
>
> Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part of
> the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what
> inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage
> Quest, there isn't any Nevada.
>
> If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or
> their lack?
>
> Les C
>
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Mon Oct 24 15:07:15 2011
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:07:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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Another C aution Heritagequest does not always have the full census online, 

but only a partial, don't know the reason maybe did not scan it all??. 

Glen Jones 




----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Harguess" <daleharguess4 at gmail.com> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:39:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry 


Probably because Nevada didn't become a state until 1864. 
Dale 


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman < opera_70 at yahoo.com > wrote: 


I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family Search he is in? 



name: ?James Arthur 
residence: , Nevada, California 
ward: ? ? ? ? ?Bloomfield Township 


Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part of the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage Quest, there isn't any Nevada.? 


If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or their lack? 


Les C 
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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 15:49:07 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:49:07 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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When you say they don't have the full census, what do you mean by that?  I
have found some indexing errors but I found the same errors in the census
indexes at my local library.  As an example I have a family in Illinois that
the head of household was not indexed in 1850 but his married daughter who
was living with the family was.  That was the only way I was able to find
them.
Heritage quest doesn't have the 1850, 1840, or 1830 census' indexed at all.
You have to use the other feature to look at them.
Dale

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Glen Jones <glenkc7mbm at comcast.net> wrote:

>  Another Caution Heritagequest does not always have the full census
> online,
>
> but only a partial, don't know the reason maybe did not scan it all??.
>
> Glen Jones
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Dale Harguess" <daleharguess4 at gmail.com>
> *To: *"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
> *Sent: *Monday, October 24, 2011 10:39:38 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
>
> Probably because Nevada didn't become a state until 1864.
> Dale
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>   I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family
>> Search he is in
>>
>>  name:  James Arthur
>> residence: , Nevada, California
>> ward:          Bloomfield Township
>>
>> Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part
>> of the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what
>> inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage
>> Quest, there isn't any Nevada.
>>
>> If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or
>> their lack?
>>
>> Les C
>>
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From pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com  Mon Oct 24 16:21:06 2011
From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:21:06 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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From daleharguess4 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 16:30:05 2011
From: daleharguess4 at gmail.com (Dale Harguess)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:30:05 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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If you go to the Census page and at the top you will see two buttons
(search) and (Browse) click on the Browse button and select a year from the
drop down menu, and then select the state and then select the county and
lastly select the location.
Then the first page will come up.  From that point you can just keep hitting
the next page and it works like a film reader except that you don't have to
wear your arm out cranking.  If you have access to the census indexes at
your library you can look it up first and that will tell you the page number
and you can quickly get to it.
It is a little cumbersome and you do have to know the state, county and
location (town, city, etc.) but it is all there and sometimes it is helpful
to just page through because you often find other relatives in the same
location.  I have often found several families within a couple of pages of
each other.
Good luck,
Dale

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paulette <pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com>wrote:

>  Dale and Glen,
>
>
>
> I don't have access to ancestry.com at home, just heritageQuest census,
> but I have some trouble navigating it; what other feature do you mean RE:
> looking at the 1830, 1840, 1850 census on heritage?
>
>
>
> I have been looking up/verifying some census records on FamilySearch on
> families I'm researching, but there is usually some weird census taker error
> that is not accounted for or transcribed to make sense, and I can't get them
> to see what I'm asking about. For example, in the 1870 census for Linn
> County, Missouri, where my ancestor Samuel Sumner is supposed to be the head
> of the Household, with his wife, daughter, and son - when I look at his page
> for the census on FamilySearch, there is a 4 year old Baker child on the HH
> line, so she is included on the family page as HH! This makes the Sumner son
> on the last line of the Sumner family drop down to be the HH of the next
> family - too strange! If I look at the image, I can see what the transciber
> is not allowing for - the same error by the census taker is all down the
> page. If that happens to me when I am referring to family I know about for
> sure, I can only cringe at what errors come up for people who are new to
> census info on familysearch!
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Paulette
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Harguess **
> Sent: Oct 24, 2011 3:49 PM
> To: or-roots mail list **
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
>
> When you say they don't have the full census, what do you mean by that?  I
> have found some indexing errors but I found the same errors in the census
> indexes at my local library.  As an example I have a family in Illinois that
> the head of household was not indexed in 1850 but his married daughter who
> was living with the family was.  That was the only way I was able to find
> them.
> Heritage quest doesn't have the 1850, 1840, or 1830 census' indexed at
> all.  You have to use the other feature to look at them.
> Dale
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Glen Jones <glenkc7mbm at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>>  Another Caution Heritagequest does not always have the full census
>> online,
>>
>> but only a partial, don't know the reason maybe did not scan it all??.
>>
>> Glen Jones
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Dale Harguess" <daleharguess4 at gmail.com>
>> *To: *"or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>> *Sent: *Monday, October 24, 2011 10:39:38 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
>>
>> Probably because Nevada didn't become a state until 1864.
>> Dale
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman <opera_70 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>>   I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family
>>> Search he is in
>>>
>>>  name:  James Arthur
>>> residence: , Nevada, California
>>> ward:          Bloomfield Township
>>>
>>> Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part
>>> of the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what
>>> inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage
>>> Quest, there isn't any Nevada.
>>>
>>> If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or
>>> their lack?
>>>
>>> Les C
>>>
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Mon Oct 24 17:35:53 2011
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:35:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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Heritagequest in many cases does not have the full census but only a partial cunsus online why I do not know. 

If you go to your local library they may have the library edition of ancestry, but you can also go to some other 

genealogy sites the census is supposed to be free everywhere even on ancestry. 

Ps: in April next year the 1940 census will be released. 

Glen Jones 




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From: "Dale Harguess" <daleharguess4 at gmail.com> 
To: "Paulette" <pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com>, "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:30:05 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry 


If you go to the Census page and at the top you will see two buttons (search) and (Browse) click on the Browse button and select a year from the drop down menu, and then select the state and then select the county and lastly select the location. 
Then the first page will come up.? From that point you can just keep hitting the next page and it works like a film reader except that you don't have to wear your arm out cranking.? If you have access to the census indexes at your library you can look it up first and that will tell you the page number and you can quickly get to it.? 
It is a little cumbersome and you do have to know the state, county and location (town, city, etc.) but it is all there and sometimes it is helpful to just page through because you often find other relatives in the same location.? I have often found several families within a couple of pages of each other. 
Good luck, 
Dale 


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paulette < pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com > wrote: 





Dale and Glen, 

? 

I don't have access to ancestry.com at home, just heritageQuest census, but I have some trouble navigating it; what other feature do you mean RE: looking at the 1830, 1840, 1850 census on heritage? 

? 

I have been looking up/verifying some census records on FamilySearch on families I'm researching, but there is usually some weird census taker error that is not accounted for or transcribed to make sense, and I can't get them to see what I'm asking about. For example, in the 1870 census for Linn County, Missouri, where my ancestor Samuel Sumner is supposed to be the head of the Household, with his wife, daughter, and son - when I look at his page for the census on FamilySearch, there is a 4 year old Baker child on the HH line, so she is included on the family page as HH! This makes the Sumner son on the last line of the Sumner family drop down to be the HH of the next family - too strange! If I look at the image, I can see what the transciber is not allowing for - the same error by the census taker is all down the page. If that happens to me when I am referring to family I know about for sure, I can only cringe at what errors come up for people who are new to census info on familysearch! 

? 

Many thanks, 

? 

Paulette 






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-----Original Message----- 
From: Dale Harguess 
Sent: Oct 24, 2011 3:49 PM 
To: or-roots mail list 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry 


When you say they don't have the full census, what do you mean by that?? I have found some indexing errors but I found the same errors in the census indexes at my local library.? As an example I have a family in Illinois that the head of household was not indexed in 1850 but his married daughter who was living with the family was.? That was the only way I was able to find them. 
Heritage quest doesn't have the 1850, 1840, or 1830 census' indexed at all.? You have to use the other feature to look at them. 
Dale 


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Glen Jones < glenkc7mbm at comcast.net > wrote: 

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Another Caution Heritagequest does not always have the full census online, 

but only a partial, don't know the reason maybe did not scan it all??. 

Glen Jones 





From: "Dale Harguess" < daleharguess4 at gmail.com > 
To: "or-roots mail list" < or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:39:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry 


Probably because Nevada didn't become a state until 1864. 
Dale 


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman < opera_70 at yahoo.com > wrote: 

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I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family Search he is in? 



name: ?James Arthur 
residence: , Nevada, California 
ward: ? ? ? ? ?Bloomfield Township 


Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part of the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage Quest, there isn't any Nevada.? 


If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or their lack? 


Les C 
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From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net  Mon Oct 24 17:39:07 2011
From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:39:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry
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I too have seen this it appears the transcriber was looking at the wrong line or ??, I have seen 

others added to a family that did not even live in the same house, so you have to be alert 

for transcription errors. 

Glen Jones? 




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From: "Paulette" <pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com> 
To: "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>, "or-roots mail list" <or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us> 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:21:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry 



Dale and Glen, 

? 

I don't have access to ancestry.com at home, just heritageQuest census, but I have some trouble navigating it; what other feature do you mean RE: looking at the 1830, 1840, 1850 census on heritage? 

? 

I have been looking up/verifying some census records on FamilySearch on families I'm researching, but there is usually some weird census taker error that is not accounted for or transcribed to make sense, and I can't get them to see what I'm asking about. For example, in the 1870 census for Linn County, Missouri, where my ancestor Samuel Sumner is supposed to be the head of the Household, with his wife, daughter, and son - when I look at his page for the census on FamilySearch, there is a 4 year old Baker child on the HH line, so she is included on the family page as HH! This makes the Sumner son on the last line of the Sumner family drop down to be the HH of the next family - too strange! If I look at the image, I can see what the transciber is not allowing for - the same error by the census taker is all down the page. If that happens to me when I am referring to family I know about for sure, I can only cringe at what errors come up for people who are new to census info on familysearch! 

? 

Many thanks, 

? 

Paulette 







-----Original Message----- 
From: Dale Harguess 
Sent: Oct 24, 2011 3:49 PM 
To: or-roots mail list 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry 


When you say they don't have the full census, what do you mean by that?? I have found some indexing errors but I found the same errors in the census indexes at my local library.? As an example I have a family in Illinois that the head of household was not indexed in 1850 but his married daughter who was living with the family was.? That was the only way I was able to find them. 
Heritage quest doesn't have the 1850, 1840, or 1830 census' indexed at all.? You have to use the other feature to look at them. 
Dale 


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Glen Jones < glenkc7mbm at comcast.net > wrote: 

<blockquote>




Another Caution Heritagequest does not always have the full census online, 

but only a partial, don't know the reason maybe did not scan it all??. 

Glen Jones 





From: "Dale Harguess" < daleharguess4 at gmail.com > 
To: "or-roots mail list" < or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:39:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Heritage Quest quandry 


Probably because Nevada didn't become a state until 1864. 
Dale 


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Leslie Chapman < opera_70 at yahoo.com > wrote: 

<blockquote>
I was looking for a buttonhole relative and find according to Family Search he is in? 



name: ?James Arthur 
residence: , Nevada, California 
ward: ? ? ? ? ?Bloomfield Township 


Oops, pay attention Les, I couldn't find this census in Nevada, but part of the reason is obviously because it is in California, but back to what inspired this email, when I go to browse the 1860 Nevada census on Heritage Quest, there isn't any Nevada.? 


If someone else has HQ could they check to see if that is my glitch or their lack? 


Les C 
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From: pswitzertatum at peoplepc.com (Paulette)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:17:13 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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From dsam52 at sampubco.com  Wed Oct 26 13:35:36 2011
From: dsam52 at sampubco.com (W David Samuelsen)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:35:36 -0600
Subject: [or-roots] SAMPUBCO - new testators and naturalizations volumes
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"List of Testators who wrote the wills leaving stuff to heirs or screw 
them out of their inheritance."
Will Testators:
NY - Ontario Vol. M and 81 (1857-1862, 1888-1892)
NY - Albany Vol. 36, 50 (1892-1893, 1900-1901)
KY - Muhlenburg Vol 1 (1801-1814) 142 records - new
NC - Rowan co. Vol 5-6, 14-15 (1905-1921, 1955-1959)
NY - New York Co. Vol 96, 1029-1031 (1848, 1915-1916)

Naturalization Petitions:
OR - Baker Vol 3 and 4 (1907-1917) 150 records - new

http://www.sampubco.com/

These aren't only items. Lots of volumes on the site.

W. David Samuelsen
SAMPUBCO



From lechevrier at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 27 21:03:58 2011
From: lechevrier at earthlink.net (Chris & Bill Strickland)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:03:58 -0700
Subject: [or-roots] Archive Orange -- Pleasant H Ewell married Sarah Taylor
	Walter 1869
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Thanks, Sue Steward, for your reply to this back in July 2006.  I have 
some interest in the Joel P Williams info.  I may have even recognized 
it back then, except that was when I kept getting bumped off Digest, and 
I was bumped at the time.  Good old Google!
    http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/DIaoTOsvZEQ8sqkoS9KK

Bill Strickland
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