From birdman_326 at msn.com Sun Sep 16 03:02:14 2012 From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:02:14 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Blackburn, Speir family pictures Message-ID: Good morning. I was able to give the pictures back to the right family. They were excited to have them back. Thankyou, to all who helped on this site. Laura P.S. post was from Jan. 8, 2012 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Sun Sep 16 14:05:22 2012 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:05:22 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Blackburn, Speir family pictures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a601cd944e$fc955f20$f5c01d60$@net> YAY! From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:02 AM To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Blackburn, Speir family pictures Good morning. I was able to give the pictures back to the right family. They were excited to have them back. Thankyou, to all who helped on this site. Laura P.S. post was from Jan. 8, 2012 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Sat Sep 22 13:56:35 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:56:35 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? References: <1F78E6325AF34D2F8883E5F4FE73591F@NancyPC> <8CAD16A9A05D64C-1584-1376@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Sat Sep 22 15:08:09 2012 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:09 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: References: <1F78E6325AF34D2F8883E5F4FE73591F@NancyPC> <8CAD16A9A05D64C-1584-1376@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001b01cd990e$c061d000$41257000$@net> Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don't know much of anything about Paisley, so I don't know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Sat Sep 22 17:01:09 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:01:09 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? References: <1F78E6325AF34D2F8883E5F4FE73591F@NancyPC> <8CAD16A9A05D64C-1584-1376@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com> <001b01cd990e$c061d000$41257000$@net> Message-ID: <80AE73A390E4444F95A79E12855A9E4B@dianet1nyozill> Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don't know much of anything about Paisley, so I don't know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Sat Sep 22 17:12:44 2012 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:12:44 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <80AE73A390E4444F95A79E12855A9E4B@dianet1nyozill> References: <1F78E6325AF34D2F8883E5F4FE73591F@NancyPC> <8CAD16A9A05D64C-1584-1376@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com> <001b01cd990e$c061d000$41257000$@net> <80AE73A390E4444F95A79E12855A9E4B@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: <002f01cd9920$2770f5d0$7652e170$@net> Usually there is a "permit to bury" that has to be obtained. Is that what the "county taxing cemetery district" has? Or, is that something else. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don't know much of anything about Paisley, so I don't know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From l.horine at comcast.net Sat Sep 22 17:25:23 2012 From: l.horine at comcast.net (l.horine at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <80AE73A390E4444F95A79E12855A9E4B@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: <941755146.2036692.1348359923156.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Diane, I love Paisley, and not just because of the Mosquito Festival - - have several T-shirts, too. I will keep this information in my "pieces of string too short to save" file and should I find any hints or matches, will certainly share them with you. One never knows when something will turn up - - and if I didn't believe that, I would have given up long ago searching for my paternal grandfather, John Edward Carlisle, who "disappeared" from the family near Oregon City in 1920 (before I was born). We call it "the mystery of the purple doughnut" and are still searching! 'lyn Horine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01:09 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Sat Sep 22 18:31:34 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob&Diane) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:31:34 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Message-ID: In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin wrote: >Usually there is a "permit to bury" that has to be obtained. Is that what >the "county taxing cemetery district" has? Or, is that something else. > > > >Pat > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business >during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local >and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official >records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the >one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is >closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 >miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > > > >No Church records either. > > > >Frustration +!!! > > > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Kith-n-Kin > >To: 'or-roots mail list' > >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Diane > > > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around >who might have something? What about church records? > > > >Sorry to say I don't know much of anything about Paisley, so I don't know >anything about the surrounding towns. > > > >Pat > >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >[mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They >arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a >map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the >cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or >exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, >which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone >in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are >forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > _____ > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for >content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or >the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > _____ > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Sat Sep 22 19:20:25 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1088549732.59672.1348366825826.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> HI? Diane and all That is a problem when the only records are in one place, I have had this Problem with Owyhee County Idaho. Diane, I found the Horning I was looking for, Died at Kamaih Idaho not at Summer Lake as some Family Tree Records showed, found an Idaho Death record. Eudora Spooner was a daughter of Elvira Grow Currier and George Alden Spooner. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob&Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:31:34 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. ?Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. ? Pat ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Pat, I have a copy of the map.? I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information.? The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976.? No town close.? 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest.? Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles.? Lots of area and few people, thankfully. ? No Church records either.? ? Frustration +!!!? ? Thanks for? the reply.?? Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Diane ? >From whom did you get the map?? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? ? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. ? Pat In Tucson ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us ] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? ? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family.? They arrived here about 1868.? ? In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here.? Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder.? There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are.? Or where they came from or exact death dates.? We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete.? ? I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck.? ? They have no headstones, either.? ? Does anyone have a idea who these folks are?? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort.? So sad, they are forgotten by their family. ? Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Sat Sep 22 19:36:23 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1551153489.59992.1348367783645.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Diane I did a Little reseach no Frank Elder in P aisley I did come up with a James E with a Agnes and A James O. with a Amanda, there is a Frank Elder showing in Grant County. I have not checked the Oregon Death Index. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob&Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:31:34 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. ?Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. ? Pat ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Pat, I have a copy of the map.? I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information.? The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976.? No town close.? 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest.? Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles.? Lots of area and few people, thankfully. ? No Church records either.? ? Frustration +!!!? ? Thanks for? the reply.?? Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Diane ? >From whom did you get the map?? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? ? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. ? Pat In Tucson ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us ] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? ? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family.? They arrived here about 1868.? ? In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here.? Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder.? There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are.? Or where they came from or exact death dates.? We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete.? ? I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck.? ? They have no headstones, either.? ? Does anyone have a idea who these folks are?? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort.? So sad, they are forgotten by their family. ? Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Sat Sep 22 20:12:39 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:12:39 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <1551153489.59992.1348367783645.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1551153489.59992.1348367783645.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Yes, all those Elder's you saw in the Paisley cemetery are all kin. I checked ODI and no Frank Elder. I tried Ancestry.com and Family search. Nothing. Sure is weird that no one has ever heard of this couple. I forgot to look at the 1940 census...guess I better try that for Oregon!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane I did a Little reseach no Frank Elder in Paisley I did come up with a James E with a Agnes and A James O. with a Amanda, there is a Frank Elder showing in Grant County. I have not checked the Oregon Death Index. Glen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Bob&Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:31:34 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this message. 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Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5286 - Release Date: 09/22/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From birdman_326 at msn.com Sun Sep 23 05:46:09 2012 From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:46:09 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ? abt. Frank Elder> Was he related to a Jennie Elder? I found an obit for Shirley F. Elder Oregonian 29 Jun 1948 page 24. that states his mother was Jennie Elder, and his wife was Ann. I wondered if this is the right family. Sorry, if I posted the wrong way. Thanks, Laura --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:56:35 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:01:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:12:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: l.horine at comcast.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:25:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane, I love Paisley, and not just because of the Mosquito Festival - - have several T-shirts, too. I will keep this information in my "pieces of string too short to save" file and should I find any hints or matches, will certainly share them with you. One never knows when something will turn up - - and if I didn't believe that, I would have given up long ago searching for my paternal grandfather, John Edward Carlisle, who "disappeared" from the family near Oregon City in 1920 (before I was born). We call it "the mystery of the purple doughnut" and are still searching! 'lyn Horine From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01:09 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:31:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:20:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? HI Diane and all That is a problem when the only records are in one place, I have had this Problem with Owyhee County Idaho. Diane, I found the Horning I was looking for, Died at Kamaih Idaho not at Summer Lake as some Family Tree Records showed, found an Idaho Death record. Eudora Spooner was a daughter of Elvira Grow Currier and George Alden Spooner. Glen From: "Bob&Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:31:34 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:36:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane I did a Little reseach no Frank Elder in Paisley I did come up with a James E with a Agnes and A James O. with a Amanda, there is a Frank Elder showing in Grant County. I have not checked the Oregon Death Index. Glen From: "Bob&Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:31:34 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Sun Sep 23 07:50:21 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob&Diane) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:50:21 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 65, Issue 3 Message-ID: I have no more information on Frank Elder other than what I posted, unfortunately. This could be our man if he is buried in Paisley. JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY wrote: > >? abt. Frank Elder> Was he related to a Jennie Elder? I found an obit for Shirley F. Elder Oregonian 29 Jun 1948 page 24. that states his mother was Jennie Elder, and his wife was Ann. I wondered if this is the right family. Sorry, if I posted the wrong way. Thanks, Laura > > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:56:35 -0700 >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > > > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > >They have no headstones, either. > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > >Thanks, Diane > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:09 -0700 >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > > > >Diane > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:01:09 -0700 >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > >No Church records either. > >Frustration +!!! > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kith-n-Kin >To: 'or-roots mail list' >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Diane > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:12:44 -0700 >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > > > > > >Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. > >Pat > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > > > >No Church records either. > > > >Frustration +!!! > > > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Kith-n-Kin > >To: 'or-roots mail list' > >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Diane > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: l.horine at comcast.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:25:23 +0000 >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > > >Diane, > > >I love Paisley, and not just because of the Mosquito Festival - - have several T-shirts, too. I will keep this information in my "pieces of string too short to save" file and should I find any hints or matches, will certainly share them with you. One never knows when something will turn up - - and if I didn't believe that, I would have given up long ago searching for my paternal grandfather, John Edward Carlisle, who "disappeared" from the family near Oregon City in 1920 (before I was born). We call it "the mystery of the purple doughnut" and are still searching! > > >'lyn Horine > > > >From: "Diane" >To: "or-roots mail list" >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01:09 PM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > >No Church records either. > >Frustration +!!! > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kith-n-Kin >To: 'or-roots mail list' >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Diane > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:31:34 -0700 >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > >In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. > > >Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: > > > >Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. > >Pat > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > > > >No Church records either. > > > >Frustration +!!! > > > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Kith-n-Kin > >To: 'or-roots mail list' > >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Diane > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:20:25 +0000 >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > > > >HI Diane and all >That is a problem when the only records are in one place, I have had this >Problem with Owyhee County Idaho. >Diane, I found the Horning I was looking for, Died at Kamaih Idaho >not at Summer Lake as some Family Tree Records showed, found an >Idaho Death record. >Eudora Spooner was a daughter of Elvira Grow Currier and George Alden Spooner. > >Glen > > > > > > >From: "Bob&Diane" >To: "or-roots mail list" >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:31:34 PM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > >In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. > > >Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: > > > >Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. > >Pat > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > > > >No Church records either. > > > >Frustration +!!! > > > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Kith-n-Kin > >To: 'or-roots mail list' > >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Diane > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > >--Forwarded Message Attachment-- >From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net >To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:36:23 +0000 >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > > > >Diane >I did a Little reseach no Frank Elder in Paisley >I did come up with a James E with a Agnes >and A James O. with a Amanda, there is a Frank >Elder showing in Grant County. >I have not checked the Oregon Death Index. > >Glen > > > > > > >From: "Bob&Diane" >To: "or-roots mail list" >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:31:34 PM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > >In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. > > >Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: > > > >Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. > >Pat > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > > > >No Church records either. > > > >Frustration +!!! > > > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Kith-n-Kin > >To: 'or-roots mail list' > >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Diane > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > >Pat >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Sun Sep 23 11:54:05 2012 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:54:05 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009401cd99bc$ce83d4e0$6b8b7ea0$@net> I?m sorry, I didn?t mean because the cemetery was owned by the county, I meant ANY burial, ANYwhere. Looked up the probable statute: http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/432.317 ?(7) Each person in charge of any place for final disposition shall include in the authorization the date of disposition and shall complete and return all authorizations to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of the disposition. When there is no person in charge of the place for final disposition, a responsible party other than the funeral service practitioner or person acting as a funeral service practitioner shall complete and return the authorization to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of disposition.? So, perhaps there is a record at the county registrar? Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bob&Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:32 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. Pat From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. No Church records either. Frustration +!!! Thanks for the reply. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Diane >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. They have no headstones, either. Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. Thanks, Diane _____ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Sun Sep 23 13:29:40 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <009401cd99bc$ce83d4e0$6b8b7ea0$@net> Message-ID: <212291101.74301.1348432180711.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> There is a possiblity that no one in the family signed a death certificate at the funeral home tha t handled the burial, I have that problem with a half-brother in Alaska his death certificate has never been signed by anyone in the family and the funeral home still has it and it cannot be filed with the State until a family member signs it (or Someone) and so far non of his children has plans to go to Alaska,?I do not know if that could be applied to Oregon or not. Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:54:05 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? I?m sorry, I didn?t mean because the cemetery was owned by the county, I meant ANY burial, ANYwhere. ? Looked up the probable statute: ? http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/432.317 ? ? (7) Each person in charge of any place for final disposition shall include in the authorization the date of disposition and shall complete and return all authorizations to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of the disposition. When there is no person in charge of the place for final disposition, a responsible party other than the funeral service practitioner or person acting as a funeral service practitioner shall complete and return the authorization to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of disposition.? ? So, perhaps there is a record at the county registrar? ? Pat ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bob&Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:32 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. ?Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. ? Pat ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us ] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Pat, I have a copy of the map.? I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information.? The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976.? No town close.? 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest.? Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles.? Lots of area and few people, thankfully. ? No Church records either.? ? Frustration +!!!? ? Thanks for? the reply.?? Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Diane ? >From whom did you get the map?? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? ? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. ? Pat In Tucson ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us ] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? ? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family.? They arrived here about 1868.? ? In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here.? Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder.? There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are.? Or where they came from or exact death dates.? We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete.? ? I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck.? ? They have no headstones, either.? ? Does anyone have a idea who these folks are?? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort.? So sad, they are forgotten by their family. ? Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Sun Sep 23 14:53:16 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob&Diane) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:53:16 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Message-ID: <0tfuvrwstykqj7ytontcio0t.1348437196772@email.android.com> Thanks, Pat. I will check into this. Diane Kith-n-Kin wrote: >I?m sorry, I didn?t mean because the cemetery was owned by the county, I meant ANY burial, ANYwhere. > > > >Looked up the probable statute: > > > >http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/432.317 > > > >?(7) Each person in charge of any place for final disposition shall include in the authorization the date of disposition and shall complete and return all authorizations to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of the disposition. When there is no person in charge of the place for final disposition, a responsible party other than the funeral service practitioner or person acting as a funeral service practitioner shall complete and return the authorization to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of disposition.? > > > >So, perhaps there is a record at the county registrar? > > > >Pat > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bob&Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:32 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. > > >Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: > >Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. > > > >Pat > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > > > >No Church records either. > > > >Frustration +!!! > > > >Thanks for the reply. Diane > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Kith-n-Kin > >To: 'or-roots mail list' > >Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Diane > > > >From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > > > >Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > > > >Pat > >In Tucson > > > >From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > > >Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > > >In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > > >I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > > >They have no headstones, either. > > > >Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > > >Thanks, Diane > > _____ > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > > _____ > >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From l.horine at comcast.net Sun Sep 23 15:10:05 2012 From: l.horine at comcast.net (Lyn Horine) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:10:05 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <212291101.74301.1348432180711.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <212291101.74301.1348432180711.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5E251D6D-2050-4DC5-B8A5-35B365201422@comcast.net> His death certificate would not be available to us yet as his death occurred less than 50 years ago 'lyn Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Glen Jones wrote: > There is a possiblity that no one in the family signed a death certificate at the > > funeral home that handled the burial, I have that problem with a half-brother > > in Alaska his death certificate has never been signed by anyone in the family > > and the funeral home still has it and it cannot be filed with the State until a > > family member signs it (or Someone) and so far non of his children has plans to go to > > Alaska, I do not know if that could be applied to Oregon or not. > > > > Glen Jones > > > > > From: "Kith-n-Kin" > To: "or-roots mail list" > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:54:05 AM > Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > I?m sorry, I didn?t mean because the cemetery was owned by the county, I meant ANY burial, ANYwhere. > > Looked up the probable statute: > > http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/432.317 > > ?(7) Each person in charge of any place for final disposition shall include in the authorization the date of disposition and shall complete and return all authorizations to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of the disposition. When there is no person in charge of the place for final disposition, a responsible party other than the funeral service practitioner or person acting as a funeral service practitioner shall complete and return the authorization to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of disposition.? > > So, perhaps there is a record at the county registrar? > > Pat > > From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bob&Diane > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:32 PM > To: or-roots mail list > Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. > > > Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: > > Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. > > Pat > > From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM > To: or-roots mail list > Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > Pat, I have a copy of the map. I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information. The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976. No town close. 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest. Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles. Lots of area and few people, thankfully. > > No Church records either. > > Frustration +!!! > > Thanks for the reply. Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kith-n-Kin > To: 'or-roots mail list' > Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > Diane > > From whom did you get the map? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? > > Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. > > Pat > In Tucson > > From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM > To: or-roots mail list > Subject: [or-roots] lost family? > > Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family. They arrived here about 1868. > > In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here. Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are. Or where they came from or exact death dates. We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete. > > I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck. > > They have no headstones, either. > > Does anyone have a idea who these folks are? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort. So sad, they are forgotten by their family. > > Thanks, Diane > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Sun Sep 23 15:56:48 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <5E251D6D-2050-4DC5-B8A5-35B365201422@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1272425485.78197.1348441008504.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> It has to be reported to SSDI and it has not that is what I ran into when going through a probate they needed my half-brothers death certiciate (it was a BIA probate and the government did not have the info but found the funeral home and got the info then.) I know death certificates are closed for 50 years Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Horine" To: "or-roots mail list" Cc: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:10:05 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? His death certificate would not be available to us yet as his death occurred less than 50 years ago 'lyn Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Glen Jones < glenkc7mbm at comcast.net > wrote: There is a possiblity that no one in the family signed a death certificate at the funeral home that handled the burial, I have that problem with a half-brother in Alaska his death certificate has never been signed by anyone in the family and the funeral home still has it and it cannot be filed with the State until a family member signs it (or Someone) and so far non of his children has plans to go to Alaska,?I do not know if that could be applied to Oregon or not. ? Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kith-n-Kin" < Kith-n-Kin at cox.net > To: "or-roots mail list" < or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:54:05 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? I?m sorry, I didn?t mean because the cemetery was owned by the county, I meant ANY burial, ANYwhere. ? Looked up the probable statute: ? http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/432.317 ? ? (7) Each person in charge of any place for final disposition shall include in the authorization the date of disposition and shall complete and return all authorizations to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of the disposition. When there is no person in charge of the place for final disposition, a responsible party other than the funeral service practitioner or person acting as a funeral service practitioner shall complete and return the authorization to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of disposition.? ? So, perhaps there is a record at the county registrar? ? Pat ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bob&Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:32 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. Kith-n-Kin < Kith-n-Kin at cox.net > wrote: Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. ?Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. ? Pat ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us ] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Pat, I have a copy of the map.? I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information.? The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976.? No town close.? 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest.? Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles.? Lots of area and few people, thankfully. ? No Church records either.? ? Frustration +!!!? ? Thanks for? the reply.?? Diane
----- Original Message ----- From: Kith-n-Kin To: 'or-roots mail list' Sent: 22 September, 2012 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? ? Diane ? >From whom did you get the map?? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? ? Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. ? Pat In Tucson ? From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [ mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us ] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: [or-roots] lost family? ? Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family.? They arrived here about 1868.? ? In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here.? Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder.? There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are.? Or where they came from or exact death dates.? We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete.? ? I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck.? ? They have no headstones, either.? ? Does anyone have a idea who these folks are?? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort.? So sad, they are forgotten by their family. ? Thanks, Diane _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5285 - Release Date: 09/22/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800.
_______________________________________________was a BIA ______ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oregontrail1851 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 23 18:31:00 2012 From: oregontrail1851 at yahoo.com (Linda Wiley) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <1272425485.78197.1348441008504.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <5E251D6D-2050-4DC5-B8A5-35B365201422@comcast.net> <1272425485.78197.1348441008504.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1348450260.92907.YahooMailNeo@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ? Closed, yes, but they are available on the death index through 2008.? You just can't go to the State Archives and see the original DC's for 50 years. ________________________________ From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? It has to be reported to SSDI and it has not that is what I ran into when going through a probate they needed my half-brothers death certiciate (it was a BIA probate and the government did not have the info but found the funeral home and got the info then.) I know death certificates are closed for 50 years Glen Jones ________________________________ From: "Lyn Horine" To: "or-roots mail list" Cc: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:10:05 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? His death certificate would not be available to us yet as his death occurred less than 50 years ago 'lyn Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Glen Jones wrote: There is a possiblity that no one in the family signed a death certificate at the >funeral home that handled the burial, I have that problem with a half-brother >in Alaska his death certificate has never been signed by anyone in the family >and the funeral home still has it and it cannot be filed with the State until a >family member signs it (or Someone) and so far non of his children has plans to go to >Alaska,?I do not know if that could be applied to Oregon or not. >? >Glen Jones > > > > >>________________________________ > From: "Kith-n-Kin" >To: "or-roots mail list" >Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:54:05 AM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >I?m sorry, I didn?t mean because the cemetery was owned by the county, I meant ANY burial, ANYwhere. >? >Looked up the probable statute: >? >http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/432.317 >? >?(7)Each person in charge of any place for final disposition shall include in the authorization the date of disposition and shall complete and return all authorizations to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of the disposition. When there is no person in charge of the place for final disposition, a responsible party other than the funeral service practitioner or person acting as a funeral service practitioner shall complete and return the authorization to the county registrar within 10 days after the date of disposition.? >? >So, perhaps there is a record at the county registrar? >? >Pat >? >From:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bob&Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:32 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? >? >In 1976 the county did not own the cemetery. The IOOF still sort of managed the cemetery. Their membership was dwindling. However a couple of years later much of the downtown area burned, which included those records. I am hoping someone will remember these people. Just so sad their family does not care. > > >Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net> wrote: >Usually there is a ?permit to bury? that has to be obtained. ?Is that what the ?county taxing cemetery district? has? Or, is that something else. >? >Pat >? >From:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:01 PM >To: or-roots mail list >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? >? >Pat, I have a copy of the map.? I called the only funeral home in business during that time and they had no record, because the people were not local and no one contacted them for a stone or any information.? The official records kept by the county taxing cemetery district only have names and the one date of 1976.? No town close.? 45 minutes to Lakeview and that is closest.? Our county only has about 7300 residents and is 110 miles by 110 miles.? Lots of area and few people, thankfully. >? >No Church records either.? >? >Frustration +!!!? >? >Thanks for? the reply.?? Diane >----- Original Message ----- >>From:Kith-n-Kin >>To:'or-roots mail list' >>Sent:22 September, 2012 3:08 PM >>Subject:Re: [or-roots] lost family? >>? >>Diane >>? >>From whom did you get the map?? Are there funeral homes/mortuaries around who might have something? What about church records? >>? >>Sorry to say I don?t know much of anything about Paisley, so I don?t know anything about the surrounding towns. >>? >>Pat >>In Tucson >>? >>From:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Diane >>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:57 PM >>To: or-roots mail list >>Subject: [or-roots] lost family? >>? >>Buried in the Paisley, Oregon are several members of the Elder family.? They arrived here about 1868.? >>? >>In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here.? Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder.? There are no more records anywhere in the cemetery system as to who these people are.? Or where they came from or exact death dates.? We do not have a Frank Elder in our family records, which are rather complete.? >>? >>I have read Oregon Death Index with no luck.? >>? >>They have no headstones, either.? >>? >>Does anyone have a idea who these folks are?? We would like to have someone in their family place a headstone or marker of some sort.? So sad, they are forgotten by their family. >>? >>Thanks, Diane >> >>________________________________ >> >>_____________________________________________________ >>or-roots mailing list >>or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >>http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >>Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 23 21:10:48 2012 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Message-ID: <1348459848.55911.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Diane; Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a popular novel series. ?Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns up a bunch of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. ?I did find a 93 year old Coach in buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank old enough to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no Frank. The fact that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be named Frank has not helped my search either. http://doig.net/Elder.htm has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he is George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't one of yours, a lot of Elders there. 1940 Oregon in Umatilla County;name: Frank Eldertitles & terms: event: Censusevent year: 1940event place: Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, Oregon, United Statesgender: Maleage: 38marital status: Singlerace (original): race (standardized): Whiterelationship to head of household (original): relationship to head of household (standardized): Brother-in-lawbirthplace: Oregonestimated birth year: 1902residence in 1935: Olympia, Pierce, Washingtonenumeration district number: 30-37family number: 94sheet number and letter: 4Aline number: 39nara publication number: T627nara roll number: 3380digital folder number: 005449209image number: 00498? Household Gender Age Birthplacehead Ernest H Hargett M 38 Oregonwife Letha O Hargett F 43 Oregonstep-granddaughter Patricia Lews F 3 Oregonbrother-in-law Frank Elder ? ? M 38 Oregon I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a?physicist?in the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find any bio info on him. Name: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Frank Elder ?SSN: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?474-05-59**?SSN Issue State: ? ? ?Kansas?Birth Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??September 11, 1915?Death Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ??June, 1976?Calculated Age: ? ? ? ? 60 Years?Last Residence: ? ? ? ?Salina, Saline County, Kansas? Probably not who you're looking for? Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; FRANK ELDER 542-03-2383 March 12, 1888 January 1, 1969 80 years OR 97230 (Portland, Multnomah County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them can be in Paisley;FRANK ELDER 556-03-2648 May 10, 1906 January 1, 1976 69 years CA 93268 (Taft, Kern County) FRANK ELDER 474-05-5961 September 11, 1915 June 1, 1976 60 years KS 67401 (Salina, Saline County) FRANK ELDER 392-36-7498 December 16, 1898 August 1, 1976 77 years WI 53573 (Muscoda, Grant County) FRANK ELDER 401-05-9413 March 2, 1905 December 1, 1976 71 years KY 40220 (Houston Acres, Jefferson County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV CA dth indx; ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs? I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. Les C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Sun Sep 23 21:15:17 2012 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:15:17 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <1348459848.55911.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1348459848.55911.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <505FDE55.9010405@ccountry.net> I had done some checking and the Frank Elder who died in Kern County, CA in 1976 is also buried in Kern County. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Elder&GSiman=1&GSst=6&GSsr=161&GRid=93537914& Sue On 9/23/2012 9:10 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: > Diane; > > Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that > there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a popular > novel series. Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns up a bunch > of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. I did find a 93 year old Coach in > buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank old enough > to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no Frank. The fact > that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be named Frank has > not helped my search either. > > http://doig.net/Elder.htm > > has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he is > George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't one > of yours, a lot of Elders there. > > 1940 Oregon in Umatilla County; > name:Frank Elder > titles & terms: > event:Census > event year:1940 > event place:Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, Oregon, > United States > gender:Male > age:38 > marital status:Single > race (original): > race (standardized):White > relationship to head of household (original): > relationship to head of household (standardized):Brother-in-law > birthplace:Oregon > estimated birth year:1902 > residence in 1935:Olympia, Pierce, Washington > enumeration district number:30-37 > family number:94 > sheet number and letter:4A > line number:39 > nara publication number:T627 > nara roll number:3380 > digital folder number:005449209 > image number:00498 > HouseholdGenderAgeBirthplace > headErnest H HargettM38Oregon > wifeLetha O HargettF43Oregon > step-granddaughterPatricia LewsF3Oregon > brother-in-lawFrank Elder M38Oregon > > I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a physicist in > the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find > any bio info on him. > > Name: Frank Elder > SSN: 474-05-59** > SSN Issue State: Kansas > Birth Date: September 11, 1915 > Death Date: June, 1976 > Calculated Age: 60 Years > Last Residence: Salina, Saline County, Kansas > > Probably not who you're looking for? > > Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; > > FRANK ELDER > 542-03-2383March 12, 1888January 1, 196980 yearsOR97230 (Portland, > Multnomah County) > > Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r > > Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them can > be in Paisley; > FRANK ELDER > 556-03-2648May 10, 1906January 1, 197669 yearsCA93268 (Taft, Kern County) > FRANK ELDER > 474-05-5961September 11, 1915June 1, 197660 yearsKS67401 (Salina, > Saline County) > FRANK ELDER > 392-36-7498December 16, 1898August 1, 197677 yearsWI53573 (Muscoda, > Grant County) > FRANK ELDER > 401-05-9413March 2, 1905December 1, 197671 yearsKY40220 (Houston > Acres, Jefferson County) > > Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV > > CA dth indx; > > ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs > > I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. > > Les C > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Sun Sep 23 21:17:44 2012 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:17:44 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <505FDE55.9010405@ccountry.net> References: <1348459848.55911.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <505FDE55.9010405@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <505FDEE8.301@ccountry.net> Oops! That was the wrong info, it was another Frank Elder I found info on. Sorry, Sue On 9/23/2012 9:15 PM, Sue Steward wrote: > I had done some checking and the Frank Elder who died in Kern County, > CA in 1976 is also buried in Kern County. > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Elder&GSiman=1&GSst=6&GSsr=161&GRid=93537914& > > Sue > > On 9/23/2012 9:10 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: >> Diane; >> >> Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that >> there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a >> popular novel series. Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns >> up a bunch of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. I did find a 93 year old >> Coach in buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank >> old enough to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no >> Frank. The fact that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be >> named Frank has not helped my search either. >> >> http://doig.net/Elder.htm >> >> has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he >> is George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't >> one of yours, a lot of Elders there. >> >> 1940 Oregon in Umatilla County; >> name:Frank Elder >> titles & terms: >> event:Census >> event year:1940 >> event place:Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, >> Oregon, United States >> gender:Male >> age:38 >> marital status:Single >> race (original): >> race (standardized):White >> relationship to head of household (original): >> relationship to head of household (standardized):Brother-in-law >> birthplace:Oregon >> estimated birth year:1902 >> residence in 1935:Olympia, Pierce, Washington >> enumeration district number:30-37 >> family number:94 >> sheet number and letter:4A >> line number:39 >> nara publication number:T627 >> nara roll number:3380 >> digital folder number:005449209 >> image number:00498 >> HouseholdGenderAgeBirthplace >> headErnest H HargettM38Oregon >> wifeLetha O HargettF43Oregon >> step-granddaughterPatricia LewsF3Oregon >> brother-in-lawFrank Elder M38Oregon >> >> I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a physicist in >> the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find >> any bio info on him. >> >> Name: Frank Elder >> SSN: 474-05-59** >> SSN Issue State: Kansas >> Birth Date: September 11, 1915 >> Death Date: June, 1976 >> Calculated Age: 60 Years >> Last Residence: Salina, Saline County, Kansas >> >> Probably not who you're looking for? >> >> Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; >> >> FRANK ELDER >> 542-03-2383March 12, 1888January 1, 196980 yearsOR97230 (Portland, >> Multnomah County) >> >> Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r >> >> Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them >> can be in Paisley; >> FRANK ELDER >> 556-03-2648May 10, 1906January 1, 197669 yearsCA93268 (Taft, Kern County) >> FRANK ELDER >> 474-05-5961September 11, 1915June 1, 197660 yearsKS67401 (Salina, >> Saline County) >> FRANK ELDER >> 392-36-7498December 16, 1898August 1, 197677 yearsWI53573 (Muscoda, >> Grant County) >> FRANK ELDER >> 401-05-9413March 2, 1905December 1, 197671 yearsKY40220 (Houston >> Acres, Jefferson County) >> >> Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV >> >> CA dth indx; >> >> ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs >> >> I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. >> >> Les C >> >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________ >> or-roots mailing list >> or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >> Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >> Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >> Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 23 21:37:01 2012 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <505FDEE8.301@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <1348461421.74737.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I do have the Kern Count, CA guy further down the page, but yeah, the Kansas dude is almost certainly buried there. I think he may be connected to the doig site I have a link to. Les --- On Sun, 9/23/12, Sue Steward wrote: From: Sue Steward Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? To: "or-roots mail list" Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 9:17 PM Oops!? That was the wrong info, it was another Frank Elder I found info on. Sorry, Sue On 9/23/2012 9:15 PM, Sue Steward wrote: I had done some checking and the Frank Elder who died in Kern County, CA in 1976 is also buried in Kern County. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Elder&GSiman=1&GSst=6&GSsr=161&GRid=93537914& Sue On 9/23/2012 9:10 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: Diane; Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a popular novel series. ?Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns up a bunch of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. ?I did find a 93 year old Coach in buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank old enough to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no Frank. The fact that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be named Frank has not helped my search either. http://doig.net/Elder.htm has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he is George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't one of yours, a lot of Elders there. 1940 Oregon in Umatilla County; name: Frank Elder titles & terms: event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, Oregon, United States gender: Male age: 38 marital status: Single race (original): race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (original): relationship to head of household (standardized): Brother-in-law birthplace: Oregon estimated birth year: 1902 residence in 1935: Olympia, Pierce, Washington enumeration district number: 30-37 family number: 94 sheet number and letter: 4A line number: 39 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 3380 digital folder number: 005449209 image number: 00498 ? Household Gender Age Birthplace head Ernest H Hargett M 38 Oregon wife Letha O Hargett F 43 Oregon step-granddaughter Patricia Lews F 3 Oregon brother-in-law Frank Elder ? ? M 38 Oregon I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a?physicist?in the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find any bio info on him. Name: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Frank Elder ? SSN: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?474-05-59**? SSN Issue State: ? ? ?Kansas? Birth Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??September 11, 1915? Death Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ??June, 1976? Calculated Age: ? ? ? ? 60 Years? Last Residence: ? ? ? ?Salina, Saline County, Kansas? Probably not who you're looking for? Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; FRANK ELDER 542-03-2383 March 12, 1888 January 1, 1969 80 years OR 97230 (Portland, Multnomah County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them can be in Paisley; FRANK ELDER 556-03-2648 May 10, 1906 January 1, 1976 69 years CA 93268 (Taft, Kern County) FRANK ELDER 474-05-5961 September 11, 1915 June 1, 1976 60 years KS 67401 (Salina, Saline County) FRANK ELDER 392-36-7498 December 16, 1898 August 1, 1976 77 years WI 53573 (Muscoda, Grant County) FRANK ELDER 401-05-9413 March 2, 1905 December 1, 1976 71 years KY 40220 (Houston Acres, Jefferson County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV CA dth indx; ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs? I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. Les C _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Sun Sep 23 21:59:22 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:59:22 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <1348461421.74737.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1348461421.74737.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2AA742BDC9874603958CFB66C10CB992@DianePC> Wow, thanks so much everyone....Really appreciate all your help and ideas. Will keep searching for the guy. I believe in miracles!! Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie Chapman To: or-roots mail list Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? I do have the Kern Count, CA guy further down the page, but yeah, the Kansas dude is almost certainly buried there. I think he may be connected to the doig site I have a link to. Les --- On Sun, 9/23/12, Sue Steward wrote: From: Sue Steward Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? To: "or-roots mail list" Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 9:17 PM Oops! That was the wrong info, it was another Frank Elder I found info on. Sorry, Sue On 9/23/2012 9:15 PM, Sue Steward wrote: I had done some checking and the Frank Elder who died in Kern County, CA in 1976 is also buried in Kern County. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Elder&GSiman=1&GSst=6&GSsr=161&GRid=93537914& Sue On 9/23/2012 9:10 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: Diane; Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a popular novel series. Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns up a bunch of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. I did find a 93 year old Coach in buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank old enough to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no Frank. The fact that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be named Frank has not helped my search either. http://doig.net/Elder.htm has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he is George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't one of yours, a lot of Elders there. 1940 Oregon in Umatilla County; name: Frank Elder titles & terms: event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, Oregon, United States gender: Male age: 38 marital status: Single race (original): race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (original): relationship to head of household (standardized): Brother-in-law birthplace: Oregon estimated birth year: 1902 residence in 1935: Olympia, Pierce, Washington enumeration district number: 30-37 family number: 94 sheet number and letter: 4A line number: 39 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 3380 digital folder number: 005449209 image number: 00498 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Ernest H Hargett M 38 Oregon wife Letha O Hargett F 43 Oregon step-granddaughter Patricia Lews F 3 Oregon brother-in-law Frank Elder M 38 Oregon I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a physicist in the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find any bio info on him. Name: Frank Elder SSN: 474-05-59** SSN Issue State: Kansas Birth Date: September 11, 1915 Death Date: June, 1976 Calculated Age: 60 Years Last Residence: Salina, Saline County, Kansas Probably not who you're looking for? Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; FRANK ELDER 542-03-2383 March 12, 1888 January 1, 1969 80 years OR 97230 (Portland, Multnomah County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them can be in Paisley; FRANK ELDER 556-03-2648 May 10, 1906 January 1, 1976 69 years CA 93268 (Taft, Kern County) FRANK ELDER 474-05-5961 September 11, 1915 June 1, 1976 60 years KS 67401 (Salina, Saline County) FRANK ELDER 392-36-7498 December 16, 1898 August 1, 1976 77 years WI 53573 (Muscoda, Grant County) FRANK ELDER 401-05-9413 March 2, 1905 December 1, 1976 71 years KY 40220 (Houston Acres, Jefferson County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV CA dth indx; ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. 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Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5288 - Release Date: 09/23/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oregontrail1851 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 23 22:19:23 2012 From: oregontrail1851 at yahoo.com (Linda Wiley) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <2AA742BDC9874603958CFB66C10CB992@DianePC> References: <1348461421.74737.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <2AA742BDC9874603958CFB66C10CB992@DianePC> Message-ID: <1348463963.92148.YahooMailNeo@web112603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Diane, does Paisley, like most small towns. have a local "watering hole" or coffee spot where the retirees gather in the morning?? If so, you might drop in on them and see if some of the old timers remember the name! ? ________________________________ From: Bob & Diane To: or-roots mail list Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Wow, thanks so much everyone....Really appreciate all your help and ideas.? Will keep searching for the guy.? I believe in miracles!!? Diane ----- Original Message ----- >From: Leslie Chapman >To: or-roots mail list >Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:37 PM >Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >I do have the Kern Count, CA guy further down the page, but yeah, the Kansas dude is almost certainly buried there. I think he may be connected to the doig site I have a link to. > > >Les > >--- On Sun, 9/23/12, Sue Steward wrote: > > >>From: Sue Steward >>Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? >>To: "or-roots mail list" >>Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 9:17 PM >> >> >>Oops!? That was the wrong info, it was another Frank Elder I found info on. >> >>Sorry, Sue >> >> >>On 9/23/2012 9:15 PM, Sue Steward wrote: >> >>I had done some checking and the Frank Elder who died in Kern County, CA in 1976 is also buried in Kern County. >>> >>>http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Elder&GSiman=1&GSst=6&GSsr=161&GRid=93537914& >>> >>>Sue >>> >>>On 9/23/2012 9:10 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: >>> >>>Diane; >>>> >>>> >>>>Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a popular novel series. ?Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns up a bunch of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. ?I did find a 93 year old Coach in buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank old enough to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no Frank. The fact that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be named Frank has not helped my search either. >>>> >>>> >>>>http://doig.net/Elder.htm >>>> >>>> >>>>has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he is George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't one of yours, a lot of Elders there. >>>> >>>> >>>>1940 Oregon in Umatilla County; >>>>name:Frank Elder >>>>titles & terms: >>>>event:Census >>>>event year:1940 >>>>event place:Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, Oregon, United States >>>>gender:Male >>>>age:38 >>>>marital status:Single >>>>race (original): >>>>race (standardized):White >>>>relationship to head of household (original): >>>>relationship to head of household (standardized):Brother-in-law >>>>birthplace:Oregon >>>>estimated birth year:1902 >>>>residence in 1935:Olympia, Pierce, Washington >>>>enumeration district number:30-37 >>>>family number:94 >>>>sheet number and letter:4A >>>>line number:39 >>>>nara publication number:T627 >>>>nara roll number:3380 >>>>digital folder number:005449209 >>>>image number:00498 >>>>?HouseholdGenderAgeBirthplace >>>>headErnest H HargettM38Oregon >>>>wifeLetha O HargettF43Oregon >>>>step-granddaughterPatricia LewsF3Oregon >>>>brother-in-lawFrank Elder ? ?M38Oregon >>>> >>>> >>>>I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a?physicist?in the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find any bio info on him. >>>> >>>> >>>>Name: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Frank Elder ? >>>>SSN: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?474-05-59**? >>>>SSN Issue State: ? ? ?Kansas? >>>>Birth Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??September 11, 1915? >>>>Death Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ??June, 1976? >>>>Calculated Age: ? ? ? ? 60 Years? >>>>Last Residence: ? ? ? ?Salina, Saline County, Kansas? >>>> >>>> >>>>Probably not who you're looking for? >>>> >>>> >>>>Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; >>>> >>>> >>>>FRANK ELDER >>>>542-03-2383March 12, 1888January 1, 196980 yearsOR97230 (Portland, Multnomah County) >>>> >>>> >>>>Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r >>>> >>>> >>>>Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them can be in Paisley; >>>>FRANK ELDER >>>>556-03-2648May 10, 1906January 1, 197669 yearsCA93268 (Taft, Kern County) >>>>FRANK ELDER >>>>474-05-5961September 11, 1915June 1, 197660 yearsKS67401 (Salina, Saline County) >>>>FRANK ELDER >>>>392-36-7498December 16, 1898August 1, 197677 yearsWI53573 (Muscoda, Grant County) >>>>FRANK ELDER >>>>401-05-9413March 2, 1905December 1, 197671 yearsKY40220 (Houston Acres, Jefferson County) >>>> >>>> >>>>Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV >>>> >>>> >>>>CA dth indx; >>>> >>>> >>>>ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs? >>>> >>>> >>>>I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. >>>> >>>> >>>>Les C >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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URL: From birdman_326 at msn.com Mon Sep 24 04:27:29 2012 From: birdman_326 at msn.com (JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:27:29 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder Message-ID: I found the phone # for Paisley library. Has anyone checked there for an obit or death notice? Seems like not much info. for Lake county, OR. I can't pull him up in world vital records or genealogy bank. Too many choices. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lechevrier at q.com Mon Sep 24 07:52:04 2012 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:52:04 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <1272425485.78197.1348441008504.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1272425485.78197.1348441008504.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <50607394.1000007@q.com> On 9/23/2012 3:56 PM, Glen Jones wrote: > > It has to be reported to SSDI ... > But if the person never registered for Social Security, they don't get listed. Most folks were registered by the time WW II was over thought, so why not these folks? Butch Cassidy syndrome? Any locals still living that remember them? Bill Strickland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 08:17:51 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob&Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:17:51 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Message-ID: <4a20ui1mxt6pnyhxhhpb1ifh.1348499871366@email.android.com> These people were not locals. Too few people in the county for them to be missed. Every once in a while some one will ask to be buried here because of the totally western atmosphere. Sage brush, juniper, mountains in the distance and desert close. On a slight sloping hill to see the sun rise over the Coglan Rim. Very picturesque and very cowboy western. The Chewaucan river trickling not so far away. Little green grass lawn because the soil is full of gravel. Peaceful. Bill & Chris Strickland wrote: >On 9/23/2012 3:56 PM, Glen Jones wrote: >> >> It has to be reported to SSDI ... >> > >But if the person never registered for Social Security, they don't get >listed. Most folks were registered by the time WW II was over thought, >so why not these folks? Butch Cassidy syndrome? Any locals still >living that remember them? > >Bill Strickland > > >_____________________________________________________ >or-roots mailing list >or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us >http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots >Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. >Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. >Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lechevrier at q.com Mon Sep 24 08:19:30 2012 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:19:30 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <4a20ui1mxt6pnyhxhhpb1ifh.1348499871366@email.android.com> References: <4a20ui1mxt6pnyhxhhpb1ifh.1348499871366@email.android.com> Message-ID: <50607A02.2060509@q.com> On 9/24/2012 8:17 AM, Bob&Diane wrote: > These people were not locals. Meaning? Were they killed in a car wreck or other such accident while travelling? For a vehicular accident, have you asked your local wrecking yard guy - I can't remember his name at the moment. > Too few people in the county for them to be missed. Every once in a > while some one will ask to be buried here because of the totally > western atmosphere. Sage brush, juniper, mountains in the distance and > desert close. On a slight sloping hill to see the sun rise over the > Coglan Rim. Very picturesque and very cowboy western. The Chewaucan > river trickling not so far away. Little green grass lawn because the > soil is full of gravel. Peaceful. I am familiar with the cemetery, my uncle is buried there -- yes, quite a fine place for aesthetics. Bill Strickland From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 08:15:28 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <50607394.1000007@q.com> Message-ID: <690558017.98838.1348499728764.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> If they are working for wages after 1933 (Approx. Date) they must have a Social Security Number. By the way everyone if the font comes through large I have it set for 18pts. so I can see it better on?my computer. Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:52:04 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? On 9/23/2012 3:56 PM, Glen Jones wrote: It has to be reported to SSDI ... But if the person never registered for Social Security, they don't get listed.? Most folks were registered by the time WW II was over thought, so why not these folks?? Butch Cassidy syndrome?? Any locals still living that remember them? Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kith-n-Kin at cox.net Mon Sep 24 08:27:35 2012 From: Kith-n-Kin at cox.net (Kith-n-Kin) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:27:35 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <2AA742BDC9874603958CFB66C10CB992@DianePC> References: <1348461421.74737.YahooMailClassic@web141201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <2AA742BDC9874603958CFB66C10CB992@DianePC> Message-ID: <013a01cd9a69$1f895570$5e9c0050$@net> Going back to the map and the 1976 date. What is the origin of the map? If it is a "cemetery census" map - where people are buried, and it was created by the, then, owners of the cemetery, it is possible that it is a burial date, not a death date. Especially if there is no marker? Are there no "owners" (is this IOOF?, I don't remember) who are still around? 1976 was not all that long ago (she said ). We may have someone here whose body was "sent home for burial" from anywhere - and, perhaps years after the death. Pat In Tucson From: or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Bob & Diane Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:59 PM To: or-roots mail list Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Wow, thanks so much everyone....Really appreciate all your help and ideas. Will keep searching for the guy. I believe in miracles!! Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Leslie Chapman To: or-roots mail list Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? I do have the Kern Count, CA guy further down the page, but yeah, the Kansas dude is almost certainly buried there. I think he may be connected to the doig site I have a link to. Les --- On Sun, 9/23/12, Sue Steward wrote: From: Sue Steward Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? To: "or-roots mail list" Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 9:17 PM Oops! That was the wrong info, it was another Frank Elder I found info on. Sorry, Sue On 9/23/2012 9:15 PM, Sue Steward wrote: I had done some checking and the Frank Elder who died in Kern County, CA in 1976 is also buried in Kern County. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr &GSln=Elder&GSiman=1&GSst=6&GSsr=161&GRid=93537914& Sue On 9/23/2012 9:10 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: Diane; Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a popular novel series. Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns up a bunch of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. I did find a 93 year old Coach in buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank old enough to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no Frank. The fact that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be named Frank has not helped my search either. http://doig.net/Elder.htm has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he is George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't one of yours, a lot of Elders there. 1940 Oregon in Umatilla County; name: Frank Elder titles & terms: event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, Oregon, United States gender: Male age: 38 marital status: Single race (original): race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (original): relationship to head of household (standardized): Brother-in-law birthplace: Oregon estimated birth year: 1902 residence in 1935: Olympia, Pierce, Washington enumeration district number: 30-37 family number: 94 sheet number and letter: 4A line number: 39 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 3380 digital folder number: 005449209 image number: 00498 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Ernest H Hargett M 38 Oregon wife Letha O Hargett F 43 Oregon step-granddaughter Patricia Lews F 3 Oregon brother-in-law Frank Elder M 38 Oregon I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a physicist in the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find any bio info on him. Name: Frank Elder SSN: 474-05-59** SSN Issue State: Kansas Birth Date: September 11, 1915 Death Date: June, 1976 Calculated Age: 60 Years Last Residence: Salina, Saline County, Kansas Probably not who you're looking for? Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; FRANK ELDER 542-03-2383 March 12, 1888 January 1, 1969 80 years OR 97230 (Portland, Multnomah County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them can be in Paisley; FRANK ELDER 556-03-2648 May 10, 1906 January 1, 1976 69 years CA 93268 (Taft, Kern County) FRANK ELDER 474-05-5961 September 11, 1915 June 1, 1976 60 years KS 67401 (Salina, Saline County) FRANK ELDER 392-36-7498 December 16, 1898 August 1, 1976 77 years WI 53573 (Muscoda, Grant County) FRANK ELDER 401-05-9413 March 2, 1905 December 1, 1976 71 years KY 40220 (Houston Acres, Jefferson County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV CA dth indx; ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. Les C _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5288 - Release Date: 09/23/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lechevrier at q.com Mon Sep 24 08:43:44 2012 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:43:44 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: References: <1F78E6325AF34D2F8883E5F4FE73591F@NancyPC> <8CAD16A9A05D64C-1584-1376@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <50607FB0.6070104@q.com> On 9/22/2012 1:56 PM, Diane wrote: > In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here... Also > listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. ... So sad, they are > forgotten by their family. > So you are saying that these folks are not local members of your long established Elder family, right? Maybe they were visiting from someplace else? Did they die at the same time? Maybe their family has no idea where they are, like you have no idea who they are? Have you checked with law enforcement for missing persons files from 1976? Who and how were they identified? My favorite story would be that they were killed in a high speed car crash, having stolen a car and identification from the "real Mr & Mrs Frank Elder" who lived Someplace Else ... 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Meaning? ?Were they killed in a car wreck or other such accident while travelling? ?For a vehicular accident, have you asked your local wrecking yard guy - I can't remember his name at the moment. > Too few people in the county for them to be missed. Every once in a > while some one will ask to be buried here because of the totally > western atmosphere. Sage brush, juniper, mountains in the distance and > desert close. On a slight sloping hill to see the sun rise over the > Coglan Rim. Very picturesque and very cowboy western. The Chewaucan > river trickling not so far away. Little green grass lawn because the > soil is full of gravel. Peaceful. I am familiar with the cemetery, my uncle is buried there -- yes, quite a fine place for aesthetics. Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. 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Has anyone checked there for an obit or death notice? Seems like not much info. for Lake county, OR. I can't pull him up in world vital records or genealogy bank. Too many choices. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5288 - Release Date: 09/23/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 09:22:04 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:22:04 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? References: <4a20ui1mxt6pnyhxhhpb1ifh.1348499871366@email.android.com> <50607A02.2060509@q.com> Message-ID: <723E89D584264B5CB62B80524C566D58@dianet1nyozill> Bill...No car accidents, people just like the looks of the view from the cemetery. Who is your uncle that is buried here? Is he a Veteran? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: 24 September, 2012 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > On 9/24/2012 8:17 AM, Bob&Diane wrote: >> These people were not locals. > > Meaning? Were they killed in a car wreck or other such accident while > travelling? For a vehicular accident, have you asked your local wrecking > yard guy - I can't remember his name at the moment. > >> Too few people in the county for them to be missed. Every once in a while >> some one will ask to be buried here because of the totally western >> atmosphere. Sage brush, juniper, mountains in the distance and desert >> close. On a slight sloping hill to see the sun rise over the Coglan Rim. >> Very picturesque and very cowboy western. The Chewaucan river trickling >> not so far away. Little green grass lawn because the soil is full of >> gravel. Peaceful. > > I am familiar with the cemetery, my uncle is buried there -- yes, quite a > fine place for aesthetics. > > Bill Strickland > From layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us Mon Sep 24 10:54:06 2012 From: layne.g.sawyer at state.or.us (SAWYER, Layne G) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:54:06 +0000 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon State Archives open house Saturday Oct 13th Message-ID: <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE0464EB6628B@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> OR-Rooters, As part of the Oregon Archives Month celebrations, the Oregon State Archives will hold an open house on Saturday, October 13th, from 10:00 am to 3:00 pm. Tours of the Archives will be offered on the half-hour and will provide visitors with a chance to go "behind the scenes" to learn more about the Archives and its holdings. Tours last about thirty minutes and include the opportunity to see some of Oregon's most significant historical documents, including the original Oregon Constitution. In addition, visitors will have an opportunity to conduct research as staff will be available to assist them and make records available for them to use. The theme for this year's Archives Month is celebrating the 100th anniversary of the passage of women's suffrage in Oregon. An exhibit highlighting documents related to women's history and political involvement in Oregon will be on display in the gallery of the Archives Building. Included in the exhibit is the original proclamation declaring women's suffrage, written by Abigail Scott Duniway. Light refreshments will be served. So, please join us in celebrating National Archives Month and take advantage of this special Saturday opening. The State Archives is located as 800 Summer Street NE in Salem. Normal operating hours are 8:00 am to 4:45 pm Monday through Friday For those of you in the Portland area (or looking for an excuse to go to Portland) the third annual Archives Crawl is Saturday October 6th to learn more about this fun event visit http://pdxarchivists.wordpress.com/ . I will be manning the State Archives table at the Portland City Archives this year. Hope to see some of you folks at one or both of these events. Regards, Layne Sawyer "List Mom" Oregon State Archives -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Mon Sep 24 11:59:13 2012 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:59:13 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <690558017.98838.1348499728764.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <690558017.98838.1348499728764.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5060AD81.7000600@ccountry.net> I have been told that if there is no surviving spouse to receive the small death benefit ($255) that they are not listed. About Social Security Death Index The Death Master File (DMF) from the Social Security Administration (SSA) currently contains over 89 million records and is updated weekly. The file is created from internal SSA records of deceased persons possessing social security numbers and whose deaths were reported to the SSA. Often this was done in connection with filing for death benefits by a family member, an attorney, a mortuary, etc. Each update of the DMF includes corrections to old data as well as additional names. [NOTE: If someone is missing from the list, it may be that the benefit was never requested, an error was made on the form requesting the benefit, or an error was made when entering the information into the SSDI.] Sue On 9/24/2012 8:15 AM, Glen Jones wrote: > > If they are working for wages after 1933 (Approx. Date) they must have > a Social Security Number. > > By the way everyone if the font comes through large I have it set for > 18pts. > > so I can see it better on my computer. > > Glen Jones > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Bill & Chris Strickland" > *To: *"or-roots mail list" > *Sent: *Monday, September 24, 2012 7:52:04 AM > *Subject: *Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > On 9/23/2012 3:56 PM, Glen Jones wrote: > > It has to be reported to SSDI ... > > > But if the person never registered for Social Security, they don't get > listed. Most folks were registered by the time WW II was over though, > so why not these folks? Butch Cassidy syndrome? Any locals still > living that remember them? > > Bill Strickland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 12:05:51 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder In-Reply-To: <96664D64B367470FB2D41AD490A29E45@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: <1035172306.111425.1348513551859.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> For those of you on this board that may not know Diane is a member of the Oregon Historic Cemeteries Commission. Glen Jones Portland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:17:07 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder There are? no records other than what I have placed in the Paisley Library.? This is a very small community.? I go?read the old county newspapers when in Lakeview (55 miles away) and I have time and no mention there. ? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: 24 September, 2012 4:27 AM Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder I found the phone # for Paisley library.? Has anyone checked there for an obit or death notice?? Seems like not much info. for Lake county, OR.? I can't pull him up in world vital records or genealogy bank.? Too many choices. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5288 - Release Date: 09/23/12 _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lechevrier at q.com Mon Sep 24 12:12:18 2012 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:12:18 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <850962265.99990.1348501160175.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <850962265.99990.1348501160175.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5060B092.5050806@q.com> On 9/24/2012 8:39 AM, Glen Jones wrote: > > Bill > > what was your Uncles name, > Paul Robert Aikins 1912-2005 > much of the Paisley > > and Summer lake cemeteries are relatives of Diane's > > and my families, > I know about Dianne's relations as we have talked before about this -- good to see she is still digging ... My uncle would have been one of those people that it would have been good to have asked about Frank Elder -- he knew stories about nearly everyone. Thanks for the note, Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 12:15:01 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <5060AD81.7000600@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <1500581755.111881.1348514101793.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Sue, as I said in a earlier reply, no one in the family signed my half brothers death certificate and it is still at the funeral home so even tho he was on SSI his death has not been reported to the State of Alaska or SSDI, that could be the case here, that no one took responsebility for reporting, I am not sure here in Oregon if the Death Certificate must be signed by a family member before it is reported to the State or SSDI. We only found out about this during a Bureau of Indian Affairs probate they could not get a death certificate even after we gave them the date of death, they contacted the funeral home and found out the death certificate had never been sign and so not filed. Glen Jones Portland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Steward" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:59:13 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? I have been told that if there is no surviving spouse to receive the small death benefit ($255) that they are not listed. About Social Security Death Index The Death Master File (DMF) from the Social Security Administration (SSA) currently contains over 89 million records and is updated weekly. The file is created from internal SSA records of deceased persons possessing social security numbers and whose deaths were reported to the SSA. Often this was done in connection with filing for death benefits by a family member, an attorney, a mortuary, etc. Each update of the DMF includes corrections to old data as well as additional names. [NOTE: If someone is missing from the list, it may be that the benefit was never requested, an error was made on the form requesting the benefit, or an error was made when entering the information into the SSDI.] Sue On 9/24/2012 8:15 AM, Glen Jones wrote: If they are working for wages after 1933 (Approx. Date) they must have a Social Security Number.
By the way everyone if the font comes through large I have it set for 18pts. so I can see it better on?my computer. ? Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:52:04 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? On 9/23/2012 3:56 PM, Glen Jones wrote:
It has to be reported to SSDI ...
But if the person never registered for Social Security, they don't get listed.? Most folks were registered by the time WW II was over though, so why not these folks?? Butch Cassidy syndrome?? Any locals still living that remember them? Bill Strickland
_____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lechevrier at q.com Mon Sep 24 12:31:31 2012 From: lechevrier at q.com (Bill & Chris Strickland) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:31:31 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder In-Reply-To: <96664D64B367470FB2D41AD490A29E45@dianet1nyozill> References: <96664D64B367470FB2D41AD490A29E45@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: <5060B513.6030801@q.com> On 9/24/2012 9:17 AM, Diane wrote: > This is a very small community. Population has ranged from 235 up (and back down) to about 300 over that last many years > I go read the old county newspapers when in Lakeview Lakeview, the county seat is also not "large" -- seems it has a population of around 3,000. One goes to Bend or Klamath Falls for anything more than just "groceries, nails, and gunpowder" -- Bend or Medford for serious medical attention. If one is suddenly desperate, and know who to ask though, folks will find what one needs in their cupboards, woodshed, or pump house -- but then you have to reciprocate likewise. Basically, everyone in Paisley knows everyone else personally. The post office will deliver mail to my cousin Jessie, simply addressed to "Jessie, Paisley, OR". And that is about the size of it. Another reason this Frank Elder is such a mystery ... Bill Strickland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 12:52:56 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder In-Reply-To: <5060B513.6030801@q.com> Message-ID: <1407197578.113683.1348516376959.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Bill I forgot to say who I was when I asked for your relatives name that is buried in Paisley, as I said a good share of the Paisley cemetery and the Summer lake cemetery are relatives of Diane and I, (We are distantly related) Diane, I forgot to ask you are there some good motels in LakeView SDOP is alway looking for Historic places to meet and there is a lot of History in your area but would be a long way for some of the Board to travel, we are looking at the Possiblity of a Board meeting in Kfalls, we would also want a historic place to meet. Glen Jones Portland, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder On 9/24/2012 9:17 AM, Diane wrote: This is a very small community.? Population has ranged from 235 up (and back down) to about 300 over that last many years
I go?read the old county newspapers when in Lakeview
Lakeview, the county seat is also not "large" -- seems it has a population of around 3,000.? One goes to Bend or Klamath Falls for anything more than just "groceries, nails, and gunpowder" -- Bend or Medford for serious medical attention. If one is suddenly desperate, and know who to ask though, folks will find what one needs in their cupboards, woodshed, or pump house -- but then you have to reciprocate likewise. Basically, everyone in Paisley knows everyone else personally. The post office will deliver mail to my cousin Jessie, simply addressed to "Jessie, Paisley, OR". And that is about the size of it.? Another reason this Frank Elder is such a mystery ... Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ckscott3132 at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 13:16:59 2012 From: ckscott3132 at comcast.net (Carolyn Scott) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:16:59 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5060BFBB.6030000@comcast.net> There any number of reasons why a deceased person might not be listed on the SSDI - the first logical reason, in my mind, is this: *_If the person was not drawing SS when they died, there would be no reason to notify SSA of their death, and therefore would not be listed on the SSDI._* If they were drawing SS, the SSAdmin. would have to be notified of the death to stop the payments, so under normal circumstances the name would then be included on the SSDI. So, if a person is missing from the SSDI, determine whether they would have, or should have, been drawing SS. Carolyn Scott Auburn, WA mailto:ckscott3132 at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 13:27:08 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] OCTA National Convention Message-ID: <1455118723.115321.1348518428561.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> For all you rooters that are interested. The National Oregon California Trails Association Convention will be in Oregon July 21st to 26th at the Monarch Motor Hotel by Clackamas town center, we hope to have a convention website up later this winter with more information and registration or by early next year, there will be a lot of History and great Speakers at this convention. Also in June 2013 the Association of Gravestone Studies will have there Na tional Convention in Salem, this will be only the second or third time that it has been on the West Coast, Oregon is in the forfront of Cemetery Preservation on the West Coast. Glen Jones -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Mon Sep 24 13:58:05 2012 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:58:05 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . In-Reply-To: <5060BFBB.6030000@comcast.net> References: <5060BFBB.6030000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5060C95D.1070802@ccountry.net> I believe that most mortuaries/funeral homes in current times just automatically notify Social Security on any death. I had a cousin who died in New Mexico in 1975 at age 33 in a job-related accident. He was not married so there was no one drawing on his social security but it showed up on SSDI. Don't know who notified SSA, perhaps the State of New Mexico since it was an occupational accident. I ordered a copy of his original application, to verify his Mom's name because I wasn't sure which of my cousin's wives was the mother, they blocked out the parent's names for confidentiality because he was young enough that the parents might still be living. If I could provide proof of death on the parents, they would release the info but I couldn't do that. Sue On 9/24/2012 1:16 PM, Carolyn Scott wrote: > There any number of reasons why a deceased person might not be listed > on the SSDI - the first logical reason, in my mind, is this: *_If the > person was not drawing SS when they died, there would be no reason to > notify SSA of their death, and therefore would not be listed on the > SSDI._* If they were drawing SS, the SSAdmin. would have to be > notified of the death to stop the payments, so under normal > circumstances the name would then be included on the SSDI. So, if a > person is missing from the SSDI, determine whether they would have, or > should have, been drawing SS. > Carolyn Scott > Auburn, WA > mailto:ckscott3132 at comcast.net > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ghullfam at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 24 13:58:49 2012 From: ghullfam at sbcglobal.net (ghullfam) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:58:49 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? References: <4a20ui1mxt6pnyhxhhpb1ifh.1348499871366@email.android.com><50607A02.2060509@q.com> <723E89D584264B5CB62B80524C566D58@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: Hi, Just butting in here, Speaking of views, anyone been to the Fort Bidwell cemetery, looks out over the beautiful valley. My Grandmother Dora Kafader Bauers, has a front row seat along with her sisters Anna (Dolly) Fulcher and Myrtel Trickler. Sorry Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > Bill...No car accidents, people just like the looks of the view from the > cemetery. > > Who is your uncle that is buried here? Is he a Veteran? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" > To: "or-roots mail list" > Sent: 24 September, 2012 8:19 AM > Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > > >> On 9/24/2012 8:17 AM, Bob&Diane wrote: >>> These people were not locals. >> >> Meaning? Were they killed in a car wreck or other such accident while >> travelling? For a vehicular accident, have you asked your local wrecking >> yard guy - I can't remember his name at the moment. >> >>> Too few people in the county for them to be missed. Every once in a >>> while some one will ask to be buried here because of the totally western >>> atmosphere. Sage brush, juniper, mountains in the distance and desert >>> close. On a slight sloping hill to see the sun rise over the Coglan Rim. >>> Very picturesque and very cowboy western. The Chewaucan river trickling >>> not so far away. Little green grass lawn because the soil is full of >>> gravel. Peaceful. >> >> I am familiar with the cemetery, my uncle is buried there -- yes, quite a >> fine place for aesthetics. >> >> Bill Strickland >> > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for > content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) > or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 15:34:25 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . In-Reply-To: <5060C95D.1070802@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <1597371939.121871.1348526065265.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I believe it is required that SSI be notifi ed even if no one files a claim for SSI but as I said the Funeral home in Alaska is holding my Half brothers Death certificate and not notifing the State or SSDI until the certificate is signed by somebody, his wife has since passed? away and his children have no plans on going to Alaska. Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Steward" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:58:05 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . I believe that most mortuaries/funeral homes in current times just automatically notify Social Security on any death. I had a cousin who died in New Mexico in 1975 at age 33 in a job-related accident.? He was not married so there was no one drawing on his social security but it showed up on SSDI.? Don't know who notified SSA, perhaps the State of New Mexico since it was an occupational accident.? I ordered a copy of his original application, to verify his Mom's name because I wasn't sure which of my cousin's wives was the mother, they blocked out the parent's names for confidentiality because he was young enough that the parents might still be living.? If I could provide proof of death on the parents, they would release the info but I couldn't do that. Sue On 9/24/2012 1:16 PM, Carolyn Scott wrote: There any number of reasons why a deceased person might not be listed on the SSDI - the first logical reason, in my mind, is this: ? If the person was not drawing SS when they died, there would be no reason to notify SSA of their death, and therefore would not be listed on the SSDI. ?? If they were drawing SS, the SSAdmin. would have to be notified of the death to stop the payments, so under normal circumstances the name would then be included on the SSDI.? So, if a person is missing from the SSDI, determine whether they would have, or should have, been drawing SS. Carolyn Scott Auburn, WA mailto:ckscott3132 at comcast.net _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 16:09:02 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:09:02 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . References: <5060BFBB.6030000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0B2E53402BCD4E69B418111D24290FFC@dianet1nyozill> When my mother applied for my father's SS, she had remarried and was living in Yucapai, CA. So the application was not from Klamath Falls, Oregon where he died and they lived for many years. He was only 59 when he died and Mother was a very young 52. I had a hard time figuring that out as I was positive that the SS applications would be at the place of residence for the deceased. So, if you cannot find the SS info, think about the applicants place of residence. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Scott To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: 24 September, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . There any number of reasons why a deceased person might not be listed on the SSDI - the first logical reason, in my mind, is this: If the person was not drawing SS when they died, there would be no reason to notify SSA of their death, and therefore would not be listed on the SSDI. If they were drawing SS, the SSAdmin. would have to be notified of the death to stop the payments, so under normal circumstances the name would then be included on the SSDI. So, if a person is missing from the SSDI, determine whether they would have, or should have, been drawing SS. Carolyn Scott Auburn, WA mailto:ckscott3132 at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 16:14:20 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:14:20 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder References: <1407197578.113683.1348516376959.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <66C3ADEED1E94C04ABFFD54E92FC7FDA@dianet1nyozill> Glen, Lakeview has a less expensive motel that is quiet called Lakeview Lodge. The hosts are Bob and Barbara Kings and the phone number is 541-947-2181. They are transplants from Wales. Delightful people. Klamath Falls has several nice resting places. There is the Favell Museum as well as a county museum. I have not been in the Favell museum in years and never been in the Klamath Museum that is now housed in the old Armory. Fort Klamath has spruced up the old Fort site and there cemetery there is quite interesting. SDOP will find either area a great historical find. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: 24 September, 2012 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder Bill I forgot to say who I was when I asked for your relatives name that is buried in Paisley, as I said a good share of the Paisley cemetery and the Summer lake cemetery are relatives of Diane and I, (We are distantly related) Diane, I forgot to ask you are there some good motels in LakeView SDOP is alway looking for Historic places to meet and there is a lot of History in your area but would be a long way for some of the Board to travel, we are looking at the Possiblity of a Board meeting in Kfalls, we would also want a historic place to meet. Glen Jones Portland, Oregon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder On 9/24/2012 9:17 AM, Diane wrote: This is a very small community. Population has ranged from 235 up (and back down) to about 300 over that last many years I go read the old county newspapers when in Lakeview Lakeview, the county seat is also not "large" -- seems it has a population of around 3,000. One goes to Bend or Klamath Falls for anything more than just "groceries, nails, and gunpowder" -- Bend or Medford for serious medical attention. If one is suddenly desperate, and know who to ask though, folks will find what one needs in their cupboards, woodshed, or pump house -- but then you have to reciprocate likewise. Basically, everyone in Paisley knows everyone else personally. The post office will deliver mail to my cousin Jessie, simply addressed to "Jessie, Paisley, OR". And that is about the size of it. Another reason this Frank Elder is such a mystery ... Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5289 - Release Date: 09/24/12 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 16:20:17 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:20:17 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder References: <96664D64B367470FB2D41AD490A29E45@dianet1nyozill> <5060B513.6030801@q.com> Message-ID: Bill, Since I am Paisley Postmaster, retired....I had many different reads on envelopes. Some were a little more that unusual, but since I knew everyone...the letter got delivered. However, a properly addressed envelope was sure nice. I had a nasty inspector that seemed to appear when an envelope would come with just a name and Paisley. I knew where to deliver, but that ole bag had to lecture me to lecture the customer on how to properly address an envelope for delivery. I will not repeat what happened when she tried to instruct a customer on how to tell the person who mailed the letter to them that was not 'properly' done. It was not a pretty scene. I got a bad mark, but oh well....was fun to watch the customer explain to this ole bag a few things about life. And her ancestry.!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Chris Strickland To: or-roots mail list Sent: 24 September, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder On 9/24/2012 9:17 AM, Diane wrote: This is a very small community. Population has ranged from 235 up (and back down) to about 300 over that last many years I go read the old county newspapers when in Lakeview Lakeview, the county seat is also not "large" -- seems it has a population of around 3,000. One goes to Bend or Klamath Falls for anything more than just "groceries, nails, and gunpowder" -- Bend or Medford for serious medical attention. If one is suddenly desperate, and know who to ask though, folks will find what one needs in their cupboards, woodshed, or pump house -- but then you have to reciprocate likewise. Basically, everyone in Paisley knows everyone else personally. The post office will deliver mail to my cousin Jessie, simply addressed to "Jessie, Paisley, OR". And that is about the size of it. Another reason this Frank Elder is such a mystery ... Bill Strickland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 16:23:05 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:23:05 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? References: <850962265.99990.1348501160175.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <5060B092.5050806@q.com> Message-ID: <2759020878D54765930A248588FF55F1@dianet1nyozill> Bill...I doubt that Paul would have known Frank Elder. He did not live here at all. Frank that is. Someone brought him in and planted him and his wife. Maybe some day the mystery will be solved. Hope so. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 16:28:21 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:28:21 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? References: <1F78E6325AF34D2F8883E5F4FE73591F@NancyPC><8CAD16A9A05D64C-1584-1376@WEBMAIL-DC11.sysops.aol.com> <50607FB0.6070104@q.com> Message-ID: <82EF2BAE7EFE48C8A48327FEF63279F3@dianet1nyozill> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Chris Strickland To: or-roots mail list Sent: 24 September, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? On 9/22/2012 1:56 PM, Diane wrote: In 1976 a man by the name of Frank Elder was buried here... Also listed on a map is his wife(?) Mrs. A. Elder. ... So sad, they are forgotten by their family. So you are saying that these folks are not local members of your long established Elder family, right? Correct. Maybe they were visiting from someplace else? We were very active in the community in 1976. Our kids were in school, I was working at the Post Office. Did they die at the same time? Only death date is 1976 for Frank Elder Maybe their family has no idea where they are, like you have no idea who they are? Have you checked with law enforcement for missing persons files from 1976? Nope. Who and how were they identified? Don't have a clue. Franks name is on a cemetery map I copied years ago and that same information is on a card the official cemetery district secretary has in her files. She gave me a photocopy of that card. My favorite story would be that they were killed in a high speed car crash, having stolen a car and identification from the "real Mr & Mrs Frank Elder" who lived Someplace Else ... Great story!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill Strickland Diane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 16:29:58 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:29:58 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? References: <4a20ui1mxt6pnyhxhhpb1ifh.1348499871366@email.android.com><50607A02.2060509@q.com><723E89D584264B5CB62B80524C566D58@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: <8145E3AC4EB644CE99B6074CD0145217@dianet1nyozill> Yes, that is a beautiful view also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ghullfam" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: 24 September, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > Hi, Just butting in here, Speaking of views, anyone been to the > Fort Bidwell cemetery, looks out over the beautiful valley. My > Grandmother Dora Kafader Bauers, has a front row seat along with her > sisters Anna (Dolly) Fulcher and Myrtel Trickler. Sorry Charlotte From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 16:26:06 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder In-Reply-To: <66C3ADEED1E94C04ABFFD54E92FC7FDA@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: <722512610.124262.1348529166058.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> T hank You Diane It will probably be in the Spring, but since SDOP has members all over the State we want to spread the meetings over the State and all SDOP members and Friends are welcome to attend the Board meetings. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:14:20 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder ? Glen, Lakeview? has a less expensive motel that is quiet called Lakeview Lodge.? The hosts are Bob and Barbara Kings and the phone number is 541-947-2181.? They are transplants from Wales.? Delightful people.? ? Klamath Falls has several nice resting places.? There is the Favell Museum as well as a county museum.? I have not been in the Favell museum in years and never been in the Klamath Museum that is now housed in the old Armory.? Fort Klamath has spruced up the old Fort site and there cemetery there is quite interesting. ? SDOP will find either area a great historical find.? Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Jones To: or-roots mail list Sent: 24 September, 2012 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder Bill I forgot to say who I was when I asked for your relatives name that is buried in Paisley, as I said a good share of the Paisley cemetery and the Summer lake cemetery are relatives of Diane and I, (We are distantly related) Diane, I forgot to ask you are there some good motels in LakeView SDOP is alway looking for Historic places to meet and there is a lot of History in your area but would be a long way for some of the Board to travel, we are looking at the Possiblity of a Board meeting in Kfalls, we would also want a historic place to meet. Glen Jones Portland, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Frank Elder On 9/24/2012 9:17 AM, Diane wrote:
This is a very small community.? Population has ranged from 235 up (and back down) to about 300 over that last many years
I go?read the old county newspapers when in Lakeview
Lakeview, the county seat is also not "large" -- seems it has a population of around 3,000.? One goes to Bend or Klamath Falls for anything more than just "groceries, nails, and gunpowder" -- Bend or Medford for serious medical attention. If one is suddenly desperate, and know who to ask though, folks will find what one needs in their cupboards, woodshed, or pump house -- but then you have to reciprocate likewise. Basically, everyone in Paisley knows everyone else personally. The post office will deliver mail to my cousin Jessie, simply addressed to "Jessie, Paisley, OR". And that is about the size of it.? Another reason this Frank Elder is such a mystery ... Bill Strickland _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5289 - Release Date: 09/24/12
_____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 16:30:55 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . In-Reply-To: <0B2E53402BCD4E69B418111D24290FFC@dianet1nyozill> Message-ID: <1143287137.124470.1348529455603.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> You run accross that a lot here in Portland, I have found Vital records in both Washington and Oregon. for the same person. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:09:02 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . When my mother applied for my father's SS, she had remarried and was living in Yucapai, CA.? So the application was not from Klamath Falls, Oregon where he died and they lived for many? years.? He was only 59 when he died and Mother was a very young 52.? I had a hard time figuring that out as I was positive that the SS applications would be at the place of residence for the deceased.? So, if you cannot find the SS info, think about the applicants place of residence.? Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Scott To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: 24 September, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Social Security Death Index. . . There any number of reasons why a deceased person might not be listed on the SSDI - the first logical reason, in my mind, is this: ? If the person was not drawing SS when they died, there would be no reason to notify SSA of their death, and therefore would not be listed on the SSDI. ?? If they were drawing SS, the SSAdmin. would have to be notified of the death to stop the payments, so under normal circumstances the name would then be included on the SSDI.? So, if a person is missing from the SSDI, determine whether they would have, or should have, been drawing SS. Carolyn Scott Auburn, WA mailto:ckscott3132 at comcast.net _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beavert53 at aol.com Mon Sep 24 17:13:53 2012 From: beavert53 at aol.com (beavert53 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? Message-ID: <1f786.5e1d84e6.3d925141@aol.com> Did a google search and found a Frank Elder that worked for the Forestry service, any possiblity? _http://isb.idaho.gov/pdf/first50/fifty_36.pdf_ (http://isb.idaho.gov/pdf/first50/fifty_36.pdf) Vicki In a message dated 9/24/2012 4:44:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, whitehillranch at centurytel.net writes: Yes, that is a beautiful view also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ghullfam" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: 24 September, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > Hi, Just butting in here, Speaking of views, anyone been to the > Fort Bidwell cemetery, looks out over the beautiful valley. My > Grandmother Dora Kafader Bauers, has a front row seat along with her > sisters Anna (Dolly) Fulcher and Myrtel Trickler. Sorry Charlotte _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 17:28:28 2012 From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <505FDE55.9010405@ccountry.net> Message-ID: <1922729015.435138.1348532908224.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I have an Uncle who is listed as being buried in two cemeteries. One in Portland and the other in San Francisco. It is my belief based on research that he is physically buried in SF but when he was moved in the '60 the movers left his headstone in Portland. Eugene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Steward" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:15:17 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? I had done some checking and the Frank Elder who died in Kern County, CA in 1976 is also buried in Kern County. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Elder&GSiman=1&GSst=6&GSsr=161&GRid=93537914& Sue On 9/23/2012 9:10 PM, Leslie Chapman wrote: Diane; Not having much luck with your Frank Elder, it isn't helping that there is a fictitious Frank Elder that is the protagonist of a popular novel series. ?Searching "Frank Elder" Paisley mostly turns up a bunch of stuff from some "Diane" Lady. ?I did find a 93 year old Coach in buried in 2006 in Chino, CA who could have had a son Frank old enough to be your guy, but they only mention two children, no Frank. The fact that there are lots of Mormon Elders who happen to be named Frank has not helped my search either. http://doig.net/Elder.htm has a Frank Elder, but he is a farmer in 1880 and anyway I think he is George Franklin Elder, you should check that page out if it isn't one of yours, a lot of Elders there. 1940 Oregon in Umatilla County; name: Frank Elder titles & terms: event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 3, Pendleton, Election Precinct 20, Umatilla, Oregon, United States gender: Male age: 38 marital status: Single race (original): race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (original): relationship to head of household (standardized): Brother-in-law birthplace: Oregon estimated birth year: 1902 residence in 1935: Olympia, Pierce, Washington enumeration district number: 30-37 family number: 94 sheet number and letter: 4A line number: 39 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 3380 digital folder number: 005449209 image number: 00498 ? Household Gender Age Birthplace head Ernest H Hargett M 38 Oregon wife Letha O Hargett F 43 Oregon step-granddaughter Patricia Lews F 3 Oregon brother-in-law Frank Elder ? ? M 38 Oregon I also found a reference to a Frank Rose Elder who was a?physicist?in the thirties and forties and is a published Author, but I can't find any bio info on him. Name: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Frank Elder ? SSN: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?474-05-59**? SSN Issue State: ? ? ?Kansas? Birth Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??September 11, 1915? Death Date: ? ? ? ? ? ? ??June, 1976? Calculated Age: ? ? ? ? 60 Years? Last Residence: ? ? ? ?Salina, Saline County, Kansas? Probably not who you're looking for? Here's one from Oregon, but dead in 1969; FRANK ELDER 542-03-2383 March 12, 1888 January 1, 1969 80 years OR 97230 (Portland, Multnomah County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M35mT7r Three more who all died in 1976, but can't imagine how any of them can be in Paisley; FRANK ELDER 556-03-2648 May 10, 1906 January 1, 1976 69 years CA 93268 (Taft, Kern County) FRANK ELDER 474-05-5961 September 11, 1915 June 1, 1976 60 years KS 67401 (Salina, Saline County) FRANK ELDER 392-36-7498 December 16, 1898 August 1, 1976 77 years WI 53573 (Muscoda, Grant County) FRANK ELDER 401-05-9413 March 2, 1905 December 1, 1976 71 years KY 40220 (Houston Acres, Jefferson County) Read more: http://www.faqs.org/people-search/frank-elder/#ixzz27M3U7YrV CA dth indx; ELDER FRANK M 05/10/1906 M WEST VIRGINIA KERN 01/15/1976 69 yrs? I've had a long weekend, so going to get to bed pretty soon. Les C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 17:31:48 2012 From: eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net (eugenemelvin.roots at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <178889593.435296.1348533108119.JavaMail.root@sz0084a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> How about a phone book and if you have an address check with the county recorder's office. Eugene ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY" To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:27:29 AM Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder I found the phone # for Paisley library.? Has anyone checked there for an obit or death notice?? Seems like not much info. for Lake county, OR.? I can't pull him up in world vital records or genealogy bank.? Too many choices. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barbhg1221 at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 17:47:33 2012 From: barbhg1221 at comcast.net (Barbara Herring) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 00:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon State Archives open house Saturday Oct 13th In-Reply-To: <5F1DF0D7F1BB944C835943B5F16CE0464EB6628B@D5DAG1B.D5.USA.NET> Message-ID: <661679290.1066296.1348534053438.JavaMail.root@sz0197a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I went to their open house last year and took the tour.? It was very intersting.? Layne and the other staff members did a good job conducting the tour and answering questions.? I also took advantage of their being open on a Saturday and did some research, too. Barbara Herring ----- Original Message ----- From: "Layne G SAWYER" To: "or-roots mail list (or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us)" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:54:06 AM Subject: [or-roots] Oregon State Archives open house Saturday Oct 13th OR-Rooters, ? As part of the Oregon Archives Month celebrations, the Oregon State Archives will hold an open house on Saturday, October 13th, from 10:00 am to 3:00 pm. Tours of the Archives will be offered on the half-hour and will provide visitors with a chance to go ?behind the scenes? to learn more about the Archives and its holdings. Tours last about thirty minutes and include the opportunity to see some of Oregon?s most significant historical documents, including the original Oregon Constitution. In addition, visitors will have an opportunity to conduct research as staff will be available to assist them and make records available for them to use. The theme for this year?s Archives Month is celebrating the 100 th anniversary of the passage of women?s suffrage in Oregon. An exhibit highlighting documents related to women?s history and political involvement in Oregon will be on display in the gallery of the Archives Building. Included in the exhibit is the original proclamation declaring women?s suffrage, written by Abigail Scott Duniway. Light refreshments will be served. So, please join us in celebrating National Archives Month and take advantage of this special Saturday opening. The State Archives is located as 800 Summer Street NE in Salem. Normal operating hours are 8:00 am to 4:45 pm Monday through Friday ? ? For those of you in the Portland area (or looking for an excuse to go to Portland) the third annual Archives Crawl is Saturday October 6th to learn more about this fun event visit? http://pdxarchivists.wordpress.com/ . I will be manning the State Archives table at the Portland City Archives this year.? ? Hope to see some of you folks at one or both of these events. ? Regards, ? Layne Sawyer "List Mom" Oregon State Archives ? _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitehillranch at centurytel.net Mon Sep 24 21:46:58 2012 From: whitehillranch at centurytel.net (Bob & Diane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:46:58 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] lost family? In-Reply-To: <1f786.5e1d84e6.3d925141@aol.com> References: <1f786.5e1d84e6.3d925141@aol.com> Message-ID: <042F2A9B788444F4BA315696F885EF09@DianePC> The 'local' Frank Elder died in 1976. Thanks for the info. ----- Original Message ----- From: beavert53 at aol.com To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? Did a google search and found a Frank Elder that worked for the Forestry service, any possiblity? http://isb.idaho.gov/pdf/first50/fifty_36.pdf Vicki In a message dated 9/24/2012 4:44:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, whitehillranch at centurytel.net writes: Yes, that is a beautiful view also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ghullfam" To: "or-roots mail list" Sent: 24 September, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] lost family? > Hi, Just butting in here, Speaking of views, anyone been to the > Fort Bidwell cemetery, looks out over the beautiful valley. My > Grandmother Dora Kafader Bauers, has a front row seat along with her > sisters Anna (Dolly) Fulcher and Myrtel Trickler. Sorry Charlotte _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? 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If this is the right gentleman, this may be why he > would want to be buried at Paisley, OR. I can't pull up the right yr. > of newspapers for ID. though. Thanks, Laura > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Tue Sep 25 07:53:34 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <608942019.146841.1348584814532.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Yes! the Salmon is in Idaho, I also found in the Census a Frank Elder in Grant County Oregon that I let Diane know of. Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY" To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:16:01 AM Subject: [or-roots] Frank Elder There was an article in Oregonian Fri., 12 March 1976? (genealogy bank paid site).? It is talking about Frank Elder, a Forest Service Ramger from the Middle Fork of the Salmon River primative area.? When I googled this, it looks like part may be in ID. On another google site it has under Biblography? &)? Indianola Ditrict, Salmon National Forest,? Frank S. Elder? ( A History of the Salmon National Forest).? If this is the right gentleman, this may be why he would want to be buried at Paisley, OR.? I can't pull up the right yr. of newspapers for ID. though.? Thanks,? Laura _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LAUBREY1 at aol.com Wed Sep 26 08:52:03 2012 From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com (LAUBREY1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealgical Society 50 years Message-ID: <5785e.3f85b33c.3d947ea3@aol.com> 50th Anniversary Celebration ? 29 September 2012 Please join us on Saturday, September 29th and help us celebrate our first 50 years from 10 am to 2:30 pm in the EWEB Training Room at 500 East Fourth Avenue, Eugene, OR. Bring your children, grandchildren, friends, neighbors, and coworkers and maybe they will catch the genealogy bug. Invite former members to come reminisce. We will have display tables with our society scrapbooks, cemetery records, examples of research, Pioneer & Early Settler Certificates, unidentified photos, and more. There will be three mini-classes offered in the morning and afternoon on Starting Your Family Tree, Which War Was My Ancestor In, and Free Online Sources for Genealogists. The first session will begin at 10:30 am. There will be a special presentation at 11:30 am followed by cake, coffee and lemonade. Everyone attending may enter the drawing for door prizes. We will be giving away a seminar admission, 2013 membership, a genealogy book, 161+ Forms CD, and gift certificates for two hours of research, a two-hour class, and one-hour ?Start Your Family Tree? personal consultation. Come and visit with us and help us celebrate 50 years of genealogy research. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Wed Sep 26 09:01:47 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealgical Society 50 years In-Reply-To: <5785e.3f85b33c.3d947ea3@aol.com> Message-ID: <396854421.198501.1348675307223.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Wish I could come have a OCTA convention planning meeting that day. Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:52:03 AM Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealgical Society 50 years 50 th Anniversary Celebration ? 29 September 2012 Please join us on Saturday, September 29 th and help us celebrate our first 50 years from 10 am to 2:30 pm in the EWEB Training Room at 500 East Fourth Avenue, Eugene, OR. Bring your children, grandchildren, friends, neighbors, and coworkers and maybe they will catch the genealogy bug. Invite former members to come reminisce. We will have display tables with our society scrapbooks, cemetery records, exa mples of research, Pioneer & Early Settler Certificates, unidentified photos, and more. There will be three mini-classes offered in the morning and afternoon on Starting Your Family Tree, Which War Was My Ancestor In, and Free Online Sources for Genealogists . The first session will begin at 10:30 am. There will be a special presentation at 11:30 am followed by cake, coffee and lemonade. Everyone attending may enter the drawing for door prizes. We will be giving ? away a seminar admission, 2013 membership, a genealogy book, 161+ Forms CD, and gift certificates for two hours of research, a two-hour class, and one-hour ?Start Your Family Tree? personal consultation. Come and visit with us and help us celebrate 50 years of genealogy research. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssteward at ccountry.net Wed Sep 26 09:39:50 2012 From: ssteward at ccountry.net (Sue Steward) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:39:50 -0700 Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealgical Society 50 years In-Reply-To: <5785e.3f85b33c.3d947ea3@aol.com> References: <5785e.3f85b33c.3d947ea3@aol.com> Message-ID: <50632FD6.4000502@ccountry.net> A little more lead time would have been helpful for those who live out of the area. Already have obligations for the day. Sue On 9/26/2012 8:52 AM, LAUBREY1 at aol.com wrote: > > *50^th Anniversary Celebration -- 29 September 2012* > > Please join us on Saturday, September 29^th and help us celebrate our > first 50 years from 10 am to 2:30 pm in the EWEB Training Room at 500 > East Fourth Avenue, Eugene, OR. Bring your children, grandchildren, > friends, neighbors, and coworkers and maybe they will catch the > genealogy bug. Invite former members to come reminisce. > > We will have display tables with our society scrapbooks, cemetery > records, examples of research, Pioneer & Early Settler Certificates, > unidentified photos, and more. > > There will be three mini-classes offered in the morning and afternoon > on/Starting Your Family Tree, Which War Was My Ancestor In, /and /Free > Online Sources for Genealogists/. The first session will begin at > 10:30 am. > > There will be a special presentation at 11:30 am followed by cake, > coffee and lemonade. > > Everyone attending may enter the drawing for door prizes. We will be > givingaway a seminar admission, 2013 membership, a genealogy book, > 161+ Forms CD, and gift certificates for two hours of research, a > two-hour class, and one-hour "Start Your Family Tree" personal > consultation. > > Come and visit with us and help us celebrate 50 years of genealogy > research. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us > http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. > Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. > Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LAUBREY1 at aol.com Wed Sep 26 14:32:11 2012 From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com (LAUBREY1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealogical Society 50 years Message-ID: <1a183.395d4d34.3d94ce5b@aol.com> Glen; sorry you won't be able to come. As you are going to miss the Anniversary you are always welcome to come to our Library for a visit. Check out the hours at _www.oregongenealogicalsociety.org_ (http://www.oregongenealogicalsociety.org) . It is a great library with books and periodicals from all over the world. Y'all are welcome to come and visit and do some research while you are there. Linda In a message dated 9/26/2012 9:06:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes: Wish I could come have a OCTA convention planning meeting that day. Glen Jones ____________________________________ From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:52:03 AM Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealogical Society 50 years 50th Anniversary Celebration ? 29 September 2012 Please join us on Saturday, September 29th and help us celebrate our first 50 years from 10 am to 2:30 pm in the EWEB Training Room at 500 East Fourth Avenue, Eugene, OR. Bring your children, grandchildren, friends, neighbors, and coworkers and maybe they will catch the genealogy bug. Invite former members to come reminisce. We will have display tables with our society scrapbooks, cemetery records, examples of research, Pioneer & Early Settler Certificates, unidentified photos, and more. There will be three mini-classes offered in the morning and afternoon on Starting Your Family Tree, Which War Was My Ancestor In, and Free Online Sources for Genealogists. The first session will begin at 10:30 am. There will be a special presentation at 11:30 am followed by cake, coffee and lemonade. Everyone attending may enter the drawing for door prizes. We will be giving away a seminar admission, 2013 membership, a genealogy book, 161+ Forms CD, and gift certificates for two hours of research, a two-hour class, and one-hour ?Start Your Family Tree? personal consultation. Come and visit with us and help us celebrate 50 years of genealogy research. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LAUBREY1 at aol.com Wed Sep 26 14:27:50 2012 From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com (LAUBREY1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealgical Society 50 years Message-ID: <19f65.28c987c8.3d94cd56@aol.com> Sorry Sue. I didn't even think about the List until I saw the announcement for the open house at the state archives. We will be doing it again in 5 years. Linda In a message dated 9/26/2012 9:40:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ssteward at ccountry.net writes: A little more lead time would have been helpful for those who live out of the area. Already have obligations for the day. Sue On 9/26/2012 8:52 AM, _LAUBREY1 at aol.com_ (mailto:LAUBREY1 at aol.com) wrote: 50th Anniversary Celebration ? 29 September 2012 Please join us on Saturday, September 29th and help us celebrate our first 50 years from 10 am to 2:30 pm in the EWEB Training Room at 500 East Fourth Avenue, Eugene, OR. Bring your children, grandchildren, friends, neighbors, and coworkers and maybe they will catch the genealogy bug. Invite former members to come reminisce. We will have display tables with our society scrapbooks, cemetery records, examples of research, Pioneer & Early Settler Certificates, unidentified photos, and more. There will be three mini-classes offered in the morning and afternoon on Starting Your Family Tree, Which War Was My Ancestor In, and Free Online Sources for Genealogists. The first session will begin at 10:30 am. There will be a special presentation at 11:30 am followed by cake, coffee and lemonade. Everyone attending may enter the drawing for door prizes. We will be giving away a seminar admission, 2013 membership, a genealogy book, 161+ Forms CD, and gift certificates for two hours of research, a two-hour class, and one-hour ?Start Your Family Tree? personal consultation. Come and visit with us and help us celebrate 50 years of genealogy research. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list _or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us_ (mailto:or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us) _http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots_ (http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots) Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Wed Sep 26 15:32:32 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealogical Society 50 years In-Reply-To: <1a183.395d4d34.3d94ce5b@aol.com> Message-ID: <866883862.218526.1348698752785.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I am a member and have been in the library a number of times. I have a Oregon California Trails Convention Planning meeting that day and I have to attend as I am on the publicity committee for the convention, I have also been recently elected to the board of the Sons and Daughters of Oregon Pioneers, so all that and other volunteer work, keep me real busy and I need to know of events well in advance. Incidently besides the OCTA Flyer. I sent we have recently learned that the Association of Gravestone Studies National Convention will be at Willamette university, in June of Next Year, this is only the third time in its existance that it has been on the West Coast. both conventions will have more info available in the near future Glen Jones J081 ----- Original Message ----- From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:32:11 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Genealogical Society 50 years Glen; sorry you won't be able to come. As you are going to miss the Anniversary you are always welcome to come to our Library for a visit. Check out the hours at www.oregongenealogicalsociety.org . It is a great library with books and periodicals from all over the world. Y'all are welcome to come and visit and do some research while you are there. ? Linda ? In a message dated 9/26/2012 9:06:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes: Wish I could come have a OCTA convention planning meeting that day. ? Glen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: LAUBREY1 at aol.com To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:52:03 AM Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Genealogical Society 50 years 50 th Anniversary Celebration ? 29 September 2012 Please join us on Saturday, September 29 th and help us celebrate our first 50 years from 10 am to 2:30 pm in the EWEB Training Room at 500 East Fourth Avenue, Eugene, OR. Bring your children, grandchildren, friends, neighbors, and coworkers and maybe they will catch the genealogy bug. Invite former members to come reminisce. We will have display tables with our society scrapbooks, cemetery records, exa mples of research, Pioneer & Early Settler Certificates, unidentified photos, and more. There will be three mini-classes offered in the morning and afternoon on Starting Your Family Tree, Which War Was My Ancestor In, and Free Online Sources for Genealogists . The first session will begin at 10:30 am. There will be a special presentation at 11:30 am followed by cake, coffee and lemonade. Everyone attending may enter the drawing for door prizes. We will be giving ? away a seminar admission, 2013 membership, a genealogy book, 161+ Forms CD, and gift certificates for two hours of research, a two-hour class, and one-hour ?Start Your Family Tree? personal consultation. Come and visit with us and help us celebrate 50 years of genealogy research. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? 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URL: From mflansburg at comcast.net Sun Sep 30 17:57:26 2012 From: mflansburg at comcast.net (mflansburg at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 00:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Degree Symbol??? In-Reply-To: <1290175366.2400451.1349052686576.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1337300232.2400676.1349053046799.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hi everyone, ? I was asked a question today that stumped me.? Go to the following link to see what I am talking about: http://archive.org/stream/spaldingmemorialcad00spal#page/n39/mode/2up ? There is a symbol next to some of the numbers.? I would normally associate this symbol with temperature or degrees.? This doesn't make sense in the context of the information.? It must have something to do with the date the person was born. ? Anyone know what it means? ? Thanks!!! ? Marcus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenkc7mbm at comcast.net Sun Sep 30 18:53:34 2012 From: glenkc7mbm at comcast.net (Glen Jones) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 01:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Degree Symbol??? In-Reply-To: <1337300232.2400676.1349053046799.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <834363199.364647.1349056414228.JavaMail.root@sz0155a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I am wondering if in olde english it is the month and day symbol. Glen Jones Portland ----- Original Message ----- From: mflansburg at comcast.net To: "Oregon Genealogy" Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:57:26 PM Subject: [or-roots] Degree Symbol??? Hi everyone, ? I was asked a question today that stumped me.? Go to the following link to see what I am talking about: ? http://archive.org/stream/spaldingmemorialcad00spal#page/n39/mode/2up ? There is a symbol next to some of the numbers.? I would normally associate this symbol with temperature or degrees.? This doesn't make sense in the context of the information.? It must have something to do with the date the person was born. ? Anyone know what it means? ? Thanks!!! ? Marcus _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From opera_70 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 30 21:28:57 2012 From: opera_70 at yahoo.com (Leslie Chapman) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [or-roots] Degree Symbol??? In-Reply-To: <1337300232.2400676.1349053046799.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1349065737.57494.YahooMailClassic@web141206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I believe they represent ?the appended thingamajiggers we use when speaking dates;14th day, 2nd month ?and such, I find them in he first few pages of the Concord regisers, then a page or so of just 9 (12) 1644 etc and then the rest of the book is written with th appended sort of randomly to either the day or month, but only th up to page 7 where Uncle Robert started using 2th agust 1654 etc. ?Judging by that it just represents th. Les Chapman --- On Sun, 9/30/12, mflansburg at comcast.net wrote: From: mflansburg at comcast.net Subject: [or-roots] Degree Symbol??? To: "Oregon Genealogy" Date: Sunday, September 30, 2012, 5:57 PM #yiv828857870 p {margin:0;}Hi everyone, ? I was asked a question today that stumped me.? Go to the following link to see what I am talking about: ? http://archive.org/stream/spaldingmemorialcad00spal#page/n39/mode/2up ? There is a symbol next to some of the numbers.? I would normally associate this symbol with temperature or degrees.? This doesn't make sense in the context of the information.? It must have something to do with the date the person was born. ? Anyone know what it means? ? Thanks!!! ? Marcus -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wm0g at comcast.net Sun Sep 30 23:24:19 2012 From: wm0g at comcast.net (Jack Ciaccia) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 06:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [or-roots] Degree Symbol??? In-Reply-To: <1337300232.2400676.1349053046799.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1601255185.2379649.1349072659987.JavaMail.root@sz0117a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Marcus, The use of the degree symbol indicates changes in date, name or location. Jack Ciaccia Boulder, CO ----- Original Message ----- From: mflansburg at comcast.net To: "Oregon Genealogy" Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:57:26 PM Subject: [or-roots] Degree Symbol??? Hi everyone, I was asked a question today that stumped me. Go to the following link to see what I am talking about: http://archive.org/stream/spaldingmemorialcad00spal#page/n39/mode/2up There is a symbol next to some of the numbers. I would normally associate this symbol with temperature or degrees. This doesn't make sense in the context of the information. It must have something to do with the date the person was born. Anyone know what it means? Thanks!!! Marcus _____________________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots Hosted by the Oregon State Library. The Library is not responsible for content. Questions related to message content should be directed to list owner(s) or the sender of the message, by phone or email. Technical questions? Call 503-378-8800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: