From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Willsburg, Clackamas County. Willsburg is a junction point on the Southern Pacific line between Sellwood and Milwaukie. It was named for George W. Wills and his son, Jacob Wills, who emigrated to Oregon in 1848 from Iowa. They took up adjoining claims near Johnson Creek, the Jacob Wills claim being near the present site of Eastmoreland. Jacob Wills was a pioneer sawmill operator along Johnson Creek. His father was a "hardshell" Baptist preacher, and he did not allow his business of farming and building to interfere with soul saving activities. Willsburgh post office was established nearby in Multnomah county on January 15, 1883, with Jacob F. Rhodes first postmaster. This office was in operation until September 1900. The post route map for 1900 uses the spelling Willsburg for this office. Dean & Diane wrote: > I know the George Wills family had an important part in the late > 1880's in Oregon, but keep running up against walls. Maybe you can > point me in the right direction.George Wills b. 1 Oct. 1801 KY d.22 > March 1888 Willsburg OregonJacob Wills b. 3 Dec. 1826 Bath KY d. > Willsburg OR Clara Adelia Wills b 1 April 1859 Willsburg OR > Married W.W. Stewart 1 April 1879 Willsburg ORmy great grandparents > Trying to find where they are buried and anything about the W W. name > place etc I have tried putting the names in all the Oregon search > sites and come up with nothing. Thank you for any help you can give > meDiane BrileyDeandi at prodigy.net --------------931AE031EB72E41BE1E86DBF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID:
Willsburg, Clackamas County.
Willsburg is a junction point on the Southern Pacific line between Sellwood and Milwaukie.  It was named for George W. Wills and his son, Jacob Wills, who emigrated to Oregon in 1848 from Iowa.  They took up adjoining claims near Johnson Creek, the Jacob Wills claim being near the present site of Eastmoreland.
Jacob Wills was a pioneer sawmill operator along Johnson Creek.  His father was a "hardshell" Baptist preacher, and he did not allow his business of farming and building to interfere with soul saving activities.  Willsburgh post office was established nearby in Multnomah county on January 15, 1883, with Jacob F. Rhodes first postmaster.  This office was in operation until September 1900.  The post route map for 1900 uses the spelling Willsburg for this office.
 
 

Dean & Diane wrote:

I know the George Wills family had an important part in the late 1880's in Oregon, but keep running up against walls.  Maybe you can point me in the right direction.George Wills  b. 1 Oct. 1801 KY   d.22 March 1888 Willsburg OregonJacob Wills b. 3 Dec. 1826 Bath KY  d. Willsburg OR Clara Adelia Wills b 1 April 1859 Willsburg OR        Married W.W. Stewart 1 April 1879 Willsburg ORmy great grandparents Trying to find where they are buried and anything about the W W. name place etc I have tried putting the names in all the Oregon search sites and come up with nothing. Thank you for any help you can give meDiane BrileyDeandi at prodigy.net 

  --------------931AE031EB72E41BE1E86DBF-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Name: Baines, Ward Spouse Name: Adflain Death Date: 14 Aug 1965 County: Josephine Birth Date: Age: 68 Certificate No.: 10904 Sue Wood wrote: > I am looking for the County in Oregon that Ward Baines died in, he was > born 8 Oct 1896 and died Aug 1965 in Oregon (SSIndex). Sure hope > someone can help me with this. Thanks, Sue Wood --------------733D81C6C491FF88121C7BAA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID:
Spouse Name: Adflain
Death Date: 14 Aug 1965
County: Josephine
Birth Date:
Age: 68
Certificate No.: 10904
 

Sue Wood wrote:

I am looking for the County in Oregon that Ward Baines died in, he was born 8 Oct 1896 and died Aug 1965 in Oregon (SSIndex).  Sure hope someone can help me with this.  Thanks, Sue Wood
--------------733D81C6C491FF88121C7BAA-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: A partial copy with pictures of: THE GENEALOGY AND STORY OF THE ELKINTON FAMILY This includes the surnames of: Raue, Elkinton, Ziegler, and Fisler. Family members range from PA, WN, WA, OR, etc. I'll be transcribing these pages and donating them as soon as possible. I am willing to do look ups / scans of pictures, etc. while these books are in my possession, however what I really want is for them to find a good permanant home in a museum or genealogical society for all to use. These were donated by an older couple for me to do what I will with. There are many personal notes in them, telling what happened with this student or that. Thank you, Peggy Rowe peggy at image2000.com From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: by Charlotte Matheny Kirkwood=20 used by permission Mr. Rubedeaux's wife was dead and he had a large family of = little children. The eldest of the six or seven was only about twelve = years old. She was a tattered, barefooted little girl and very = freckled. I remember the freckles especially, I thought they were nice. = She was a fine little worker, SELF RELIANT, the mainstay of her father. = Everyone admired her, even the men of our party were glad to give her a = "lift" when she needed it.=20 Mr. Rubedeaux walked beside the oxen, and the wagon bristling = with little heads. The little girl, I have forgotten her name, walked = and drove the loose cattle. Getting started of a morning with loose = cattle everywhere was not an easy task for anyone. This small girl with = her whip, took her equal and effective part in the general commotion, = cracking her whip and talking to her little herd of lean oxen, some cows = and a calf or two.=20 I remember her as we passed through the snake river country. There = were rocks everywhere, and I noticed that she limped. I was sorry for = her. I would have given her my shoes, if she could have worn them. The = fact that I was without shoes, myself might possibly have prevented such = an act of charity, even though her feet had been larger than mine. I = wonder now, why someone did not lend her a horse. Plenty of them were = driven loose, or were led tied to the backs of the wagons. Perhaps she = had refused one, I do not know about that. I know that she walked most, = if not all of the way and drove her herd of cattle. She drove them as = though she liked it and was glad to. Everyone helped her when she = needed it.=20 One day a band of Indians came to us and rode along beside us for = a ways. One of them in passing the small girl, grabbed the ox whip from = her hands and dashed away with it. That whip was dear to her, she = clutched at it and screamed. Her father bounded toward her, but he was = too late. The whip was gone. His face was so red and angry. I = remember seeing him pick up a rock and heave it with all his might after = the laughing, galloping Indian. The rock was as big as my head it could = not have carried twenty feet.=20 I do not know what became of Mr. Rubedeaux and his flock of = little motherless children. We never saw them again after we separated = from them at The Dalles of the Columbia, but when I think of that little = girl, I know that in her was the making of a fine, fine woman. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: What's his name ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2D263.DE434120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Listers:
 
This is sent using HTML (rather than = plain text)=20 because it must be or risk loosing
the link and effect.  = Sorry.
 
from:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~cchouk/oregon_tr= ail/crossing/Rubedeaux.htm
 
 

From "Into the Eye of The Setting Sun"
by Charlotte Matheny=20 Kirkwood
used by permission

      Mr. = Rubedeaux's=20 wife was dead and he had a large family of little children.  The = eldest=20 of the six or seven was only about twelve years old.  She was a = tattered,=20 barefooted little girl and very freckled.  I remember the = freckles=20 especially, I thought they were nice.  She was a fine little = worker, SELF=20 RELIANT, the mainstay of her father.  Everyone admired her, even = the men=20 of our party were glad to give her a "lift" when she needed=20 it.=20

     Mr. Rubedeaux walked = beside the=20 oxen, and the wagon bristling with little heads.  The little = girl, I have=20 forgotten her name, walked and drove the loose cattle.  Getting = started=20 of a morning with loose cattle everywhere was not an easy task for=20 anyone.  This small girl with her whip, took her equal and = effective part=20 in the general commotion, cracking her whip and talking to her little = herd of=20 lean oxen, some cows and a calf or two.=20

  I remember her as we passed through the = snake river=20 country.  There were rocks everywhere, and I noticed that she=20 limped.  I was sorry for her.  I would have given her my = shoes, if=20 she could have worn them.  The fact that I was without shoes, = myself=20 might possibly have prevented such an act of charity, even though her = feet had=20 been larger than mine.  I wonder now, why someone did not lend = her a=20 horse.  Plenty of them were driven loose, or were led tied to the = backs=20 of the wagons.  Perhaps she had refused one, I do not know about=20 that.  I know that she walked most, if not all of the way and = drove her=20 herd of cattle.  She drove them as though she liked it and was = glad=20 to.  Everyone helped her when she needed it.=20

     One day a band of = Indians came to=20 us and rode along beside us for a ways.  One of them in passing = the small=20 girl, grabbed the ox whip from her hands and dashed away with = it.  That=20 whip was dear to her, she clutched at it and screamed.  Her = father=20 bounded toward her, but he was too late.  The whip was = gone.  His=20 face was so red and angry.  I remember seeing him pick up a rock = and=20 heave it with all his might after the laughing, galloping = Indian.  The=20 rock was as big as my head it could not have carried twenty=20 feet.=20

     I do not know what = became of Mr.=20 Rubedeaux and his flock of little motherless children.  We  = never=20 saw them again after we separated from them at The Dalles of the = Columbia, but=20 when I think of that little girl, I know that in her was the making of = a fine,=20 fine woman.

From wet San Diego,

What's his name

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C2D263.DE434120-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: by Charlotte Matheny Kirkwood=20 used by permission Somewhere near the crossing of the North Platte, we camped at a = place called Soap Springs. It as a boggy place. Old Mr. Mills stepped = into a sink hole and, as he said: "went in up to his hat band." Niniva = Ford's big black ox blundered into one during the night. In the morning = he was found and pulled out before Niniva was up. He was covered, all = but his head, with the thick blue mud. Niniva made a great fuss when he = could not find his big black ox.=20 Everyone else "hook up." There was a lone blue ox grassing about = that no one seemed to claim. Niniva was asked if it were not his. He = said, "No my ox is black." Finally he was advised to take it anyway, the = owner perhaps had yoked up the black ox by mistake. There seemed = nothing else to do, so Niniva, mad as a hornet, went out to catch the = ox, while everyone looked on and laughed. After a while Niniva laughed = about it too, but he did not at first. He was still too mad at the man = that he thought had taken his big black ox. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Note: Nineveh Ford's name has been misspelled by several people. = I have copies of documents which contain his signature. He spelled it = "NINEVEH". Ninevah was the city; Nineveh was my great great = grandfather.=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01C2D277.DDB234A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DaviesWalt at cs.com
To: cchouk at cox.net ; or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20 ; OREGON-L at rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, = 2003 8:42=20 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Walt's = Aunte=20 Charlotte

Hey Cecil send the one about the big blue ox I like that story.
Walt
 

Nineveh Ford's Ox=20

From "Into the Eye of The Setting Sun" =
by=20 Charlotte Matheny Kirkwood
used by permission

     Somewhere near = the=20 crossing of the North Platte, we camped at a place called Soap = Springs. =20 It as a boggy place.  Old Mr. Mills stepped into a sink hole and, = as he=20 said: "went in up to his hat band."  Niniva Ford's big black ox = blundered=20 into one during the night.  In the morning he was found and = pulled out=20 before Niniva was up.  He was covered, all but his head, with the = thick=20 blue mud.  Niniva made a great fuss when he could not find his = big black=20 ox.=20

     Everyone else "hook = up." =20 There was a lone blue ox grassing about that no one seemed to = claim. =20 Niniva was asked if it were not his.  He said, "No my ox is = black."=20 Finally he was advised to take it anyway, the owner perhaps had yoked = up the=20 black ox by mistake.  There seemed nothing else to do, so Niniva, = mad as=20 a hornet, went out to catch the ox, while everyone looked on and=20 laughed.  After a while Niniva laughed about it too, but he did = not at=20 first.  He was still too mad at the man that he thought had taken = his big=20 black ox.


     = Note: Nineveh Ford's name has been = misspelled by=20 several people.  I have copies of documents which contain his=20 signature.  He spelled it "NINEVEH".  Ninevah was the city; = Nineveh=20 was my great great grandfather.
 
From wet San = Diego
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_012A_01C2D277.DDB234A0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: by Charlotte Matheny Kirkwood used by permission So Father stored our wagons and the things that we could not take with us, and putting our extra stock in the mission pasture, we started with a few pack animals, to make the last one hundred miles into the Willamette Valley. Our provisions were low and we had barely enough to last us, if everything went well, but everything did not go well. When we were a day's travel on the "Lolo Trail" (carry trail) we found in the morning that our oxen were gone. Father sent four of the boys back to look for them, while the rest of us rode on. Winter had come and the old guide kept looking up into the sky and shivering violently and shaking his head. It was his way of telling us that it was soon going to snow and that we must hurry on as fast as we could. Father supposed that the oxen had strayed only a short distance and all day long we were looking for the boys to rejoin us, but night came without them, and another. Then in spite of the warnings of the Indian, we laid over a day. The sky was growing dark and threatening and it was bitter cold. The boys had taken no food at all, for they had expected to be gone but a few hours. It was a harrowing situation. Each day, when we broke camp, Mother had divided our scanty store of food and had tied a generous share to a limb over the trail, out of the reach of wolves or other marauding animals. Father realized that he must get out of the mountains as fast as he could, then he could go back to meet the boys. He knew that they must have gone all the way back to The Dalles Mission, or they would have overtaken us. He hoped that they would be wise enough to stay there till he returned to them. One bitter cold night, we made camp up in the very clouds themselves. With the exception of some buffalo suet, our food was entirely gone. Mother found some Elderberries, bitter unpalatable things, and stewed them with the suet. Elderberry soup, she called the seedy, purple mess, and we tried to eat it, for hunger was pinching us and it was all we had. Our boys were somewhere out in the wild forbidding mountains, without food or shelter, maybe lost entirely. One night our little party sat huddled, damp and hungry around our camp fire. No one cared to talk, no one dared to talk. Mother and Lizabeth cried. I remember that I sat snuggled under Father's cape. I could hear the "wow,wow" of the wind in the pine trees and the trickling splashing of the water in the mountain stream. Night birds were calling. Oh, but it was a dreary, lonely spot and a lonely, cheerless group that occupied it. Finally when I had endured the dreadful depressing silence as long as I could, I said: "Father sing, sing 'Good old Noah,' and sing it loud." Father understood. How his heart must have ached. His voice echoed and reached from mountain to mountain. In the Morning as we were starting, our guide put his ear to the ground and listened intently. Then he sprang up and said: "ting-ting, ting-ting." One of our oxen wore a bell and he had heard it. In a little while we could all hear it. We heard it coming nearer and nearer. And so our boys were with us again. We were still hungry and so were they, for two boys from the mission were with them. Mother's scanty provisions had been divided between six instead of four. We were all hungry, but we were happy and we knew that one of the oxen would be killed before real starvation came to us. We were far from actually starving, for we still had a bag of suet, so killing the ox would be a last resort. Brother Adam and Cousin Aaron rode on ahead, for we were within sight of the Willamette Valley. They hurried on to the Hudson Bay Company's post at the falls and returned to us with provisions. They had a pillow slip full of funny little hard biscuits. Oh, but they were delightfully filling. When Adam came up to us, he reached into the bag and sewed biscuits over us, as one would sew wheat by hand. Mother said: "Adam, that is a foolish thing for you to do." I was looking at tender hearted Adam and I knew why he threw the biscuits. He wanted to turn attention from himself, and the tears were streaming down his face. Late the next evening, we reached the Hudson Bay Company's post, but the rain had fallen on us all day and we were cold and wet. Everything that we had was wet. There was no shelter for us there, every cranny was filled to overflowing with the families who had made the trip successfully by raft. So we pitched our tents and tried as best we could to dry out some of our bedding. There was no dry wood to be had and Mother had reached the limits of her endurance. She cried and cried, and Lizabeth cried, and Mary cried. But my hero was his usual cheerful self and I thought the rest of them was a pretty poor lot to make such a fuss, when they could see as well as I could that everything must be alright. In a day or two Father rented one room from a Mr. Foster and we stayed there till we got a cabin over in the Tualatin Valley and moved into it. It was a pretty poor kind of a cabin, but it had a roof and we surely needed a roof. That winter it rained almost without stopping till the first of the next May. That sounds like the Oregon I remember. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 1. Click on TOOLS at the top of your screen 2. Click on OPTIONS 3. Click on the SEND tab 4. Under "Mail sending format" click "Plain Text Settings..." 5. Adjust the "Automatic wrap at" box to a higher number, perhaps 100 6. Click the "APPLY" button 7. Done; close the windows. The 100 value will allow most URLs to be sent without fragmentation. = This may not be high enough for things like some Yahoo map locations, but = that is not a problem because you can send the maps directly from the Yahoo map web page(s). This URL is 83 charaters long: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=3DGET&db=3D= cchouk&id=3DI00001 With the "Automatic wrap at" the default 76, you would have seen: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=3DGET&db=3D= cchouk& id=3DI00001 This URL is my entry in my GEDCOM on WorldConnect Project. You're welcome. ------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C2D4D1.1DA85660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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the URL.
 
What to do:
From your IN-BOX
1.  Click on TOOLS at the top of your screen
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4.  Under "Mail sending format" click "Plain Text = Settings..."
5.  Adjust the "Automatic wrap at" box to a higher=20 number, perhaps 100
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The 100 value will allow most URLs to be sent without = fragmentation. =20 This
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is not a problem because you can send the maps directly from=20 the Yahoo
map web page(s).
 
This URL is 83 charaters long:
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With the "Automatic wrap at" the default 76, you would have = seen:
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------=_NextPart_000_00D4_01C2D4D1.1DA85660-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: The first break in our lines came at the crossing of the little blue. John Ford had a light wagon that was drawn by horses. A mile or two before we came to the river, we passed where his wagon had drawn to the side of the road and someone rode on ahead to call Beedy's mother back to her. The long wagon train passed by and the wagons in turn, forded the shallow stream. The land on the opposite bank was quite low and inclined to be swampy, but we stopped there and made camp in spite of the fact that a storm was brewing. Tents were put up, campfires built and everything made ready for the night. By that time the rain was falling in sheets. Within two or three hours the little Blue was a swirling muddy treacherous stream that carried beyond its own banks and was beginning to seep into the low places around our camp. It was just about dark when we heard a call from the opposite bank. It was John Ford and his family. Beedy's father called to him to stay where he was, to make camp there and wait until daylight. "Beedy won't do it." came the reply. " She is afraid of Indians." There may not have been an Indian within a hundred miles, but to the pioneer woman, they were always a menace. "Beedy says cross if we have to swim". So John Ford drove into the flood. In a moment his horses were swimming. Several of our men, slipping off their boots and heavier clothing, had gone into the stream to be ready in case of disaster, and it was well that they did, for the light wagon rocked perilously in the current. They held and steadied it the best they could. The stream was not wide and fortunately the wagon box was tight enough for the short voyage. So in a few minutes, Beedy and John and Beedy's mother and Beedy's son Tillman were safe with the rest of us. Safe but not dry, none of us were dry. Beedy's son Tillman was at that time about an hour old. Walt Davies Monmouth, OR --part1_143.abf2950.2b808059_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From aunt Charlotte's book Chapter II

The first break in our lines came at the crossing of the little blue.

John Ford had a light wagon that was drawn by horses. A mile or two befo= re we came to  the river, we passed where his wagon had drawn to the si= de of the road and someone rode on  ahead to call Beedy's mother back t= o her. The long wagon train passed by and the wagons in  turn, forded t= he shallow stream.

The land on the opposite bank was quite low and inclined to be swampy, b= ut we stopped  there and made camp in spite of the fact that a storm wa= s brewing. Tents were put up,  campfires built and everything made read= y for the night.

By that time the rain was falling in sheets. Within two or three hours t= he little Blue was a swirling  muddy treacherous stream that carried be= yond its own banks and was beginning to seep into the low places around our=20= camp. It was just about dark when we heard a call from the opposite  ba= nk. It was John Ford and his family. Beedy's father called to him to stay wh= ere he was, to make camp there and wait until daylight. "Beedy won't do it."= came the reply. " She is afraid of  Indians." There may not have been=20= an Indian within a hundred miles, but to the pioneer woman, they were always= a menace. "Beedy says cross if we have to swim". So John Ford drove into&nb= sp; the flood. In a moment his horses were swimming. Several of our men, sli= pping off their boots  and heavier clothing, had gone into the stream t= o be ready in case of disaster, and it was well  that they did, for the= light wagon rocked perilously in the current. They held and steadied it the= best they could. The stream was not wide and fortunately the wagon box was=20= tight enough for  the short voyage.

So in a few minutes, Beedy and John and Beedy's mother and Beedy's son T= illman were safe  with the rest of us. Safe but not dry, none of us wer= e dry. Beedy's son Tillman was at that time  about an hour old.

Walt Davies
Monmouth, OR --part1_143.abf2950.2b808059_boundary-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Families that Settled at the End of the Oregon Trail," Mulino, OR, Gail J. McCormick Publishing Company, 1992, printed by Maverick Publications, Bend, OR, pp. 63-76: "The decision to undertake the long journey to Oregon was made by Elizabeth Amanda Trullinger, mother of ten children. Her three oldest sons, Gabriel, 24 (b. 1824, m. Sarah Glover), Nathan H., 22 (b. 1826, m. Frances Greshen), and John Corse, 20 (b. 1828, m. Hannah Boyle), had heard that hunting and fishing were good in the Oregon Territory and were ready to leave when Elizabeth decided it would be best if the whole family went together. The other children were Amanda, 18 (b. 1830, m. John Wright then Mr. Hodson), Mary Jane 15 (b. 1833, m. Andrew Cutting then A.B. Falkner), Elizabeth Ellen, 12 (b. 1836, m. Harbision Morgan), twins Eliza (. 1838, m. Rene Matson or Mattoon) and Evangeline, 10 (b. 1838, m. William Lowe), Daniel Perry, 8 (b. 1840, m. Emily Wood), and little Sara, 5 years old (b. 1843, m. Mr. Todd). Along with Nathan's wife, Frances, and father, Daniel, they set out for Oregon on April 6, 1848, with three wagons. One was drawn by four yoke of oxen. Their entourage included cows, chickens, pigs and several horses. A family had to be quite well-to-do to travel the Oregon Trail as they had to be outfitted in advance for six months of travel. Elizabeth Amanda John and Daniel Trullinger married on April 27, 1823. She was the daughter of Archibald Johnson, brother of Andrew Johnson, Vice President under President Lincoln. He later became President when Lincoln was assassinated. (Note by TGE: Not true. Andrew Johnson had no brother by the name of Archibald.) Elizabeth was described as a very wise and determined woman who looked after the health and education of her children. She was also a poet, song writer and herb doctor. Her strong character was an inspiration for her children and grandchildren. Daniel Trullinger, at the age of 22, was a part-time minister for the Christian Church. He was also a farmer in Indiana. The family arrived in Oregon and took the Barlow Trail from The Dalles. When they arrived at the toll gate, near what is now Rhododendron, they had to pay by promise as they did not have enough money left to pay the toll. They arrived in Oregon City on September 14, 1848, and wintered there. The first year in Oregon, Gabriel worked in Oregon City at his native trade of cabinet-making. Nathan and Frances headed ten miles south of Oregon City and settled on Milk Creek near what is now Union Mills. They built a cabin and started to cultivate the land. A donation land claim was filed for this land in the Trullinger name. In 1849, the excitement of the Gold Rush broke. Father Daniel with sons, Gabriel and John Corse, traveled by horseback to California. Daniel, being forty-seven years old, soon found panning gold too hard a work for his age, gave up and returned home. Gabriel and John stayed for two years and returned home with a small fortune, having sometimes panned $80 per day in gold. John is said to have brought back $18,000. The United States was offering free land for the claiming in Oregon - 320 acres for single people and 640 acres if you were married. Apprehensive that gold might become overly plentiful and land therefore would become more valuable, Gabriel and John decided to return to Oregon and look for land to settle." From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: reunion, August 5, 1956: "Elizabeth Johnson, one of ten daughters of Archibald Johnson, born in Vitenford County, Tennessee, Feb. 10, 1805, died at Roseburg, Oregon, Aug. 18, 1886, 81 years old. She left a heritage to her descendants that is truly outstanding. We can all be proud of her. . . . Living on a farm, or ranch, with ten children, and a part-time preacher husband, was a real problem for Grandmother. Few cultivating tools, little, if any money from the contribution box, buying clothes and necessities, was really something. Grandmother with the help of the three older boys and five girls, sheared sheep for the wool for their clothing, washing, spinning and weaving, and hand sewing. Trading eggs for groceries. This went on until 1847, when the three older boys were ready to leave for the Oregon Country, where they were told was good hunting and fishing. Nathan had married Frances Greshen in the meantime, and Grandmother figured it would be better for all of them to go. So in early spring of 1848, they started out with two wagons, two yokes of oxen, cows, chickens, pigs, and three or four horses. The covered wagon days, traveling ten or twelve miles a day, they joined a wagon train at Mississippi Crossing, and after six months coming in over the Barlow Trail, they wound up at Oregon City, where they lived through the winter of 1848 and 1849." Cecil Houk, ET1 USN Ret. PO Box 530833 San Diego CA 92153 mailto:cchouk at cox.net ANDERSON - BLAKLEY - FORD - HOUK - KIMSEY - MOE - RULAFORD - SIMPSON Searchable GEDCOM: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~cchouk My web page MENU: http://members.cox.net/~cchouk/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: If you people would move out of the dark ages and into the light of the = modern computer system you would set your own system up to read html and = then all this gobblegook would just dissapeer and you would find a whole = new world of e-mail with fancy letterheads, pictures and other wonderful = things.=20 I used to be like you but I moved up to the latest e-mail system and = what a wonderful thing it was I now get all of the beautiful things that = can be sent though the modern computer system. By the way it doesn't cost anything for the latest systems they can be = had by downloaded for free or a cd for just the cost of shipping. People, Cecil and I are not going to go back to driving a horse and = buggy just because a few of you are to lazy or to stuck in the mud to = move on. Walt Davies Monmouth, OR ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C30CD2.1EE51160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well=20 we know that both of you must be feeling pretty good today and that is = great to=20 know!!!
Regards,
Verdena
PS Cecil is this picture on any of = your=20 websites????

Picture of Cecil's ancestor,=20 Alfred!
Right on Walt!
 
From = Walt 
If you people would move out of the dark ages and = into the=20 light of the modern computer system you would set your own system up to = read=20 html and then all this gobblegook would just dissapeer and you would = find a=20 whole new world of e-mail with fancy letterheads, pictures and other = wonderful=20 things.
I used to be like you but I moved up to the latest e-mail = system and=20 what a wonderful thing it was I now get all of the beautiful things that = can be=20 sent though the modern computer system.
By the way it doesn't cost = anything=20 for the latest systems they can be had by downloaded for free or a cd = for just=20 the cost of shipping.
People, Cecil and I are not going to go back to = driving=20 a horse and buggy just because a few of you are to lazy or to stuck in = the mud=20 to move on.
Walt Davies
Monmouth, OR ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C30CD2.1EE51160-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Thanks in advance - Linda Chalker-Scott Seattle, WA ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Rush on 20 Jun 1867 at the house of Samuel Rush; witnesses - Jonathan Riggs, Samuel Rush Virgene Travis in Montana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Dale" To: "ORRoots" Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: [or-roots] Holgate/Breeding I haven't posted for a long time but always read the postings. Let's give it another try!!! Looking for any Holgate ancestors from Benton Co., Oregon.....and Breeding family of Lane Co. then Crook Co. G-grandfather Breeding helped quarry/build the courthouse in Prineville and also the original Ochoco Dam. A Holgate ancestor coordinated the building and was the presiding judge of the Benton Co. courthouse. He also signed the cornerstone document (Erastus Holgate). Any info would be nice!! Steve From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: anyone has anything to add it would be welcomed. If it helps others too, all the better. John Milton Hanson Son of Borden Hanson and Rachel (Cox) Hanson b.10 July 1920 Stillwater, Belmont, Ohio d.10 April 1906 Newberg, Yamhill Co. Oregon m.19 Dec 1938 Wayne Co Indiana Sarah Hutchins Daughter of Hezekiah Hutchens and Clara (Spain) Hutchins b.14 Nov 1841 d.1892 (24 June 1894?) Silverton, Marion County Oregon Children of John & Sarah: 1)Elwood Hanson b. 3 July 1842 d.1913 ? buried in Newberg Cemetery 2)Silas Hanson b. 29 May 1844 d.1932 ? buried in Newberg Cemetery 3)Ellen Hanson b.29 August 1846 d.1904 4)Enos Calva Hanson b. 4 November 1848 d. April 1928 5)Emily Hanson (married Gander) b. 16 Dec 1850 d.1931? buried in Newberg Cemetery 6)Ester Hanson (married Snow) b. 16 June 1853 7)Evangeline Hanson (married Martin) b. 28 Aug 1855 d.1928 One of the founders of George Fox College in Newberg. 8)Elvira Hanson (married Cook) b. 14 Feb 1858 d.1951 9)J (John ?) Milton Hanson b. 2 May 1860 d. Jan 1944 ===== carole cjpjoppe at yahoo.com ... unwrap each day as a precious gift __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Name: Irwin, Flora County: Union Marriage Date: 05 Apr 1908 Name: Kielblach, Fredrick William County: Union Marriage Date: 05 Apr 1908 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Name: Bessey, George H. County: Union Death Date: 09 May 1922 Certificate: 81 Name: Kielblock, Frederick W County: Union Death Date: 24 Mar 1942 I can't find George Irwin or Flora Kielblock in the Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 The only one of the family I can find in the 1930 Census is Darrell Irwin Census Year: 1930; Census Place: Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington; Roll: T626_2523; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 21; Image: 0261. Name: Darrell R Irwin Age: 27 years Estimated birth year: 1902 Birthplace: Oregon Relation: Head Race: White Home in 1930: Walla Walla, Walla Walla, Washington Even using creative spelling and searching all states I wasn't able to find William, Flora, or Kathryn Kielblock, or Clifford Irwin in 1930. Maybe Jim has further information he'll share with us just to satisfy my never ending curiosity. Judy McIntyre From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: partnerships of McEntee. He was know as Dunning & McEntee sometime in the 1880's and the Gil would have been for Gilbaugh. All of the Dunning and McEntee records would be at, Hennessey, Goetsch & McGee, SCI Corp. are the owners now. If the records exists they would be able to tell you, call them at 503.221.1292. They have been around since 1897. Sharon Sharon at SharonOR.com www.HeritageTrailpress.com Where the Oregon Death Index is FREE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wulf" To: "Oregon List" Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: [or-roots] Portland Funeral Homes 1909 > My Grandfather's brother Jesse C. Bates drowned in the Willamette River 5 > Sep 1909. The death certificate lists B. L. Norden Coroner of 3 No 7th St > as certifying doctor. It also gives Dim. McEntee & Gil (??) as undertaker > also at 3 No 7th . [Family story is that he was working logs on the river.] > > Does anyone have a better guess as to what the name of the funeral home > might really be?? Who might have their records now?? > > Barb > wulf at bendcable.com > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: included copies of letters written to their Congressman requesting postal service into the Nehalem Valley, pictures and odd tidbits of things he remembered. He had the foresight to ask contemporaries to write down their remembrances of coming into the valley. Some of these things I have given to local historical groups so that other could enjoy them. Therefore I feel strongly that everyone should write down their history for generations to come. No matter how incidental you may think your life was. It will be important to your family in years to come. Aileen. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tara Anderson=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: [or-roots] Need Archives lookup I am in need of copies of some documents in the Oregon State Archives. = I have the info on the documents of the archive website, I just need = someone to copy and send them to me, as I cannot get to Salem. I am = willing to pay the cost of copies and postage, and can do lookups in = Clackamas County in return. =20 =20 Tara Anderson Geneaholic at comcast.net Researching: Loundree, Harrington, Greybill, Hicks, Guthu, Ray, Dodd, = Foster, Jackson, Edmisten, Brockwell, Bennett, Somers, Bentley, Lee, = Nearing, Shafer, Riley, Littlewolf, Rollman, and many more Lookups: Clackamas County, Oregon: Index to 1973 Edition Sandy = Pioneers, Early Settlers and Barlow Road Days; MT Hood: A Complete = History; Mee Ma - Sandy Union High School Yearbook 1963, 1965, 1966 Nationwide: Census years 1790-1880, 1910-1930 (only 1 per week, so = there may be a wait) Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/ For in depth research help, please visit my website = http://geneaholic1.tripod.com/ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_026A_01C381EC.A5FA11C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Email your request to ARCHIVES References
  Reference.Archives at state.o= r.us
You=20 may want to ask what the charges will be.  It is more for = out-of-state=20 residents than for Oregonians.
Regards,
Verdena Veelle
From 1910 Era Newspaper
 " The principal reason why the = old=20 times seem good
 is that people were content with less." =
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tara=20 Anderson
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, = 2003 12:55=20 PM
Subject: [or-roots] Need = Archives=20 lookup

I am in need of copies = of some=20 documents in the Oregon State Archives.  I have the info on the = documents of the=20 archive website, I just need someone to = copy and send=20 them to me, as I cannot get to = Salem.  I am willing to pay the cost = of copies=20 and postage, and can do lookups in=20 Clackamas=20 County in=20 return. =20

 

Tara=20 Anderson
Geneaholic at comcast.net

Researching:=20 Loundree, Harrington, Greybill, Hicks, Guthu, Ray, Dodd, Foster,=20 Jackson,=20 Edmisten, Brockwell, Bennett, Somers, Bentley, Lee, Nearing, Shafer, = Riley,=20 Littlewolf, Rollman, and many more
Lookups:=20 Clackamas=20 County,=20 Oregon:=20 Index=20 to 1973 Edition Sandy=20 Pioneers, Early Settlers and = Barlow=20 Road=20 Days; MT Hood: A Complete History; Mee Ma -=20 Sandy=20 Union=20 High=20 School=20 Yearbook 1963, 1965, 1966
Nationwide:=20 Census=20 years 1790-1880, 1910-1930 (only 1 per week, so there may be a=20 wait)
Volunteer=20 of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at
http://www.raogk.org/

For = in depth=20 research help, please visit my website http://geneaholic1.tripod.com/

 

------=_NextPart_000_026A_01C381EC.A5FA11C0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Leonard Couch=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: [or-roots] Marriage in Union,Wallowa,Baker counties Could you please give me a web address where I can look up marriage = records in Union,Wallowa,Baker counties. Some one sent the information = in email from or-roots,I have lost it. Thank You=20 Leonard Couch --- Leonard Couch --- lmcouch at earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list = or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us = http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C386AF.8B7671A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some are at this web site, not necessarily all of them. http:/= /abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/fhc/gbsearch.htm
From 1910 Era Newspaper
 " The principal reason why the = old=20 times seem good
 is that people were content with less." =
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Leonard=20 Couch
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Monday, September 29, = 2003 10:54=20 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Marriage in = Union,Wallowa,Baker counties

Could you please give me a web address where I can look up = marriage=20 records in Union,Wallowa,Baker counties. Some one sent the information = in=20 email from or-roots,I have lost it.
 
Thank You
Leonard Couch
 
--- Leonard Couch
--- lmcouch at earthlink.net
--- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.
 

_______________________________________________ or-roots = mailing list=20 or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 = http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C386AF.8B7671A0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Name: Fisher, Mary E County: Portland Death Date: 26 N 1944 Barb wulf at bendcable.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Colette=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: [or-roots] Fisher/Cameron in Multnomah County I need suggestions or help in locating a death record. I have had the = Oregon Archives research check and they have not been able to find the = record. Here is the info I have=20 Her married name: Mary (Mae or May) Fisher =20 Approx date of birth: March 29, 1896 in Canada=20 husbands name: Claude (Claud) Fisher=20 One daughter: Beatrice I have a old letter from her step sister that says Mae died in = Portland in 1944. She is listed on the 1920 and 1930 Federal Census as living with = Claude in Multnomah County. I have a letter from him dated 1962 and it has a Portland address.=20 I have a picture she sent to my Grandfather and by the looks it could = not have been to many years before her death. It is stamped Portland = Oregon on the back and the front is a picture of her standing on a road = and she marked an X where they are building a house. Claude died July 30, 1964 in Multnomah County, Certificate No. 10523 = and it list May as the Spouse. I live in the Southeast so anything I do will have to be internet = search or sending a letter. How do I find out a list of funeral homes operating during 1964? Is there a website where I can look up property owners? Thanks, Colette Cameron Krob ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C388D0.9808BB30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From the Ancestry Oregon Death=20 Index.
 
 
Name: Fisher, Mary=20 E
County: Portland
Death Date: 26 N 1944

Barb
wulf at bendcable.com
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Colette=20
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Thursday, October 02, = 2003 9:44=20 AM
Subject: [or-roots] = Fisher/Cameron in=20 Multnomah County

I need suggestions or help in locating a death = record.  I=20 have had the Oregon Archives research check and they have not been = able to=20 find the record.  Here is the info I have=20
Her married=20 = name:       Mary=20 (Mae or May) Fisher  =

Approx date of=20 birth:      March 29, 1896 in Canada=20
husbands name:  Claude (Claud) = Fisher=20
One=20 = daughter:       =     Beatrice

= I=20 have a old letter from her step sister that says Mae died in Portland = in=20 1944.
She is listed on the 1920 and 1930 Federal Census as living = with=20 Claude in Multnomah County.
I have a letter from him dated 1962 and = it has=20 a Portland address.
I have a picture she sent to my Grandfather = and by the=20 looks it could not have been to many years before her death.  It = is=20 stamped Portland Oregon on the back and the front is a picture of her = standing=20 on a road and she marked an X where they are building a = house.

Claude=20 died July 30, 1964 in Multnomah County, Certificate No. 10523 and it = list May=20 as the Spouse.

I live in the Southeast so anything I do will = have to be=20 internet search or sending a letter.

How do I find out a list = of=20 funeral homes operating during 1964?
Is there a website where I can = look up=20 property owners?

Thanks,
Colette Cameron=20 Krob
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C388D0.9808BB30-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Name: Fisher, Mary E County: Portland Death Date: 26 N 1944 Barb wulf at bendcable.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Colette To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: [or-roots] Fisher/Cameron in Multnomah County I need suggestions or help in locating a death record. I have had the Oregon Archives research check and they have not been able to find the record. Here is the info I have Her married name: Mary (Mae or May) Fisher Approx date of birth: March 29, 1896 in Canada husbands name: Claude (Claud) Fisher One daughter: Beatrice I have a old letter from her step sister that says Mae died in Portland in 1944. She is listed on the 1920 and 1930 Federal Census as living with Claude in Multnomah County. I have a letter from him dated 1962 and it has a Portland address. I have a picture she sent to my Grandfather and by the looks it could not have been to many years before her death. It is stamped Portland Oregon on the back and the front is a picture of her standing on a road and she marked an X where they are building a house. Claude died July 30, 1964 in Multnomah County, Certificate No. 10523 and it list May as the Spouse. I live in the Southeast so anything I do will have to be internet search or sending a letter. How do I find out a list of funeral homes operating during 1964? Is there a website where I can look up property owners? Thanks, Colette Cameron Krob -------------------------------1065117313 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
With this date you shou= ld now be able to get the death cert. from the Oregon State Archives. I= believe you will have to pay about $25 unless you can find someone in Salem= who will find it for you. They can copy and send it to you for a dollar or=20= so.
 
From the Ancestry Oregon Death Index.
 
 
Name: Fisher, Mary E
Cou= nty: Portland
Death Date: 26 N 1944=
----- Original Message -----
F= rom: Colette
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:44= AM
Subject: [or-roots] Fisher/Cameron in= Multnomah County

I need suggestions or help in locating a death record. =20= I have had the Oregon Archives research check and they have not been able to= find the record.  Here is the info I have=20
Her married name:       Mary (Mae or May) Fisher 

Approx dat= e of birth:      March 29, 1896 in Canada=20
husbands name:  Claude (Claud) Fisher=20
One daughter:      &= nbsp;    Beatrice

I have a old letter from her step sister that says Mae died in Portland in= 1944.
She is listed on the 1920 and 1930 Federal Census as living with C= laude in Multnomah County.
I have a letter from him dated 1962 and it has= a Portland address.
I have a picture she sent to my Grandfather and by=20= the looks it could not have been to many years before her death.  It is= stamped Portland Oregon on the back and the front is a picture of her stand= ing on a road and she marked an X where they are building a house.

Cl= aude died July 30, 1964 in Multnomah County, Certificate No. 10523 and it li= st May as the Spouse.

I live in the Southeast so anything I do will h= ave to be internet search or sending a letter.

How do I find out a li= st of funeral homes operating during 1964?
Is there a website where I can= look up property owners?

Thanks,
Colette Cameron Krob
-------------------------------1065117313-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: married =20 Sarah Morton.  This Isaac Junior was born  about 1708 in = King=20 George Va. 

When looking for Arnold stuff online go to Google. com  and=20 search.  You will be amazed at what you can find.   = There is=20 more stuff being put online all the time.  Good luck on your=20 research.  It  is a blast to find things and just to do = the=20 research.  I enjoy reading all the research stuff on this = list. =20 It has given me lots more tips and ideas for research than the = contributers=20 will ever know.

Oh, my Grt. grt. grandfather, Thomas L. Arnold came to Malheur = Co. Oregon=20 in 1882 and settled at the Agency ranch which had just been taken = out of an=20 Indian Reservation.  My Grt. Grandfather , Thomas F. came on to = Harney=20 County Oregon and our family has been here since. 

Anne (Arnold) Clark a resident of  the Drewsey,Oregon=20 area

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Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney=20 Spears ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C39D5D.4634F160-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Ramsdell Sr. and Cynthia Crary) and his wife Laurilla Jane Caldwell (d/o = Barclay K. Caldwell and Margaret Farrier) comes the following list of = children: Mary Elizabeth Ramsdell 1850-1927 m. Cyrus Dixon David Barclay Ramsdell 1852-1919 m. Clarinda Kibbey Margaret Cynthia Ramsdell 1854-1902 m. Cyrus Edd Carr Amma Cordelia Ramsdell 1855-1922 m. Francis Wiess Laurilla Jane Ramsdell 1857-1908 m. Lazarus Sam King Thomas Manly Ramsdell II or III 1859-1924 m. Melinda Ellen Eddelman Oscar Calohill Ramsdell 1862-1930 m. Melvina S. King Anna May Ramsdell 1864-1956 m. Sievert Anderson John Andrew Ramsdell 1866-1951 m. Ida Alice Stephenson Frances Carrie Ramsdell 1868-1910 m. Dr. Wm. Tatom Infant son born dead 6 July 1870 Oneatta Elnora Ramsdell 1872-1902 m. Guy Fitch Phelps Agnes Ramsdell 1874-1877 Thomas Manly Ramsdell Jr. and his children Margaret, Laurilla, Anna, = John, Frances and Oneatta are buried in Lone Fir Cemetery, Portland, = Oregon. I have plot locations on these people. Oneatta was my = grandfather's first wife. I can give more detailed info on these children including date and place = of birth, birth weight, date of death, where buried, spouse, children. = Information relating to birth from Thomas Ramsdell Jr.'s Bible. Other = info from Ramsdell family members, researchers and Lone Fir Cemetery = Records. Nancy Hemstreet ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Connie Guardino=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Ramsdell Elk City Cemetery=20 Ramsdell, David Barclay (1852-1920 OR) s/o Lovely J. (1830-? VA) & = Rev. Thomas M. Sr. (1822-? VT); Ramsdell, Rev. Tomas M. Sr. (1822-? VT) = h/o Lorilla J. (1830-? VA; f/o David Barclay (1852-1920 OR), Margaret = (1854-? OR), Cordelia (1853-? OR), Lorilla J. Caldwell (1857-? OR), = Thomas M. Jr. (1859-? OR), Oscar (1862-? OR), Ann (1864-? OR), John = (1866-? OR) & Frances (1868-? OR)=20 Got a lot about the Dave Ramsdell place, as per a 1977 interview with = Bea and Jim Parks, Big Elk Valley.=20 J & N Hemstreet wrote:=20 Does your book show a cemetery listing for Agnes Ramsdell who died = in 1877? She was born 30 Mar 1874 to Rev. Thomas Ramsell Jr. and wife, = Laurilla Caldwell Ramsdell, a well known family in Yaquina Bay, Lincoln, = OR.Nancy Hemstreet=20 ----- Original Message ----- From:Connie Guardino To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] GLEASON I found this tidbit in the "Unusual Graves in Lincoln County" = section of my book:=20 "Jane Fanno and her daughter, Lucy Fanno, are said to be buried on = Ryan Hill near Seal Rock beside the old road. She is the grandmother of = Roy, Guy, Ben and Jennie Twombly."=20 Gary in arizona,I am not searching Gleasons but My = grandfather's middle name is Gleason and I have never figured out why. = You also name Smiths. Well my grandfather's mother was Ellice Smith. = She married James Twombly in Lee, Penobscot County, Maine. They first = went to Pennsylvania, then Minnesota then to Oregon. Lincoln = County.Suppose we have a connection in there = somewhere?LillianLSchiendel at aol.com ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C39FCB.F2661660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From the Bible of Rev. Thomas Manly Ramsdell, Jr.( s/o Thomas Manly = Ramsdell Sr. and Cynthia Crary) and his wife Laurilla Jane Caldwell = (d/o=20 Barclay K. Caldwell and Margaret Farrier) comes the following list of=20 children:
 
Mary Elizabeth Ramsdell 1850-1927 m. Cyrus Dixon
David Barclay Ramsdell 1852-1919 m. Clarinda Kibbey
Margaret Cynthia Ramsdell 1854-1902 m. Cyrus Edd Carr
Amma Cordelia Ramsdell 1855-1922 m. Francis Wiess
Laurilla Jane Ramsdell 1857-1908 m. Lazarus Sam King
Thomas Manly Ramsdell II or III 1859-1924 m. Melinda Ellen
   Eddelman
Oscar Calohill Ramsdell 1862-1930 m. Melvina S. King
Anna May Ramsdell 1864-1956 m. Sievert Anderson
John Andrew Ramsdell 1866-1951 m. Ida Alice Stephenson
Frances Carrie Ramsdell 1868-1910 m. Dr. Wm. Tatom
Infant son born dead 6 July 1870
Oneatta Elnora Ramsdell 1872-1902 m. Guy Fitch Phelps
Agnes Ramsdell 1874-1877
 
Thomas Manly Ramsdell Jr. and his children Margaret, Laurilla, = Anna, John,=20 Frances and Oneatta are buried in Lone Fir Cemetery, Portland, = Oregon.  I=20 have plot locations on these people.  Oneatta was my grandfather's = first=20 wife.
 
I can give more detailed info on these children including date and=20 place of birth, birth weight, date of death, where buried, spouse,=20 children.  Information relating to birth from Thomas Ramsdell Jr.'s = Bible.  Other info from Ramsdell family members, = researchers and Lone=20 Fir Cemetery Records.
 
Nancy Hemstreet
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Connie = Guardino
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 = 3:45=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Ramsdell

Elk City Cemetery=20

Ramsdell, David Barclay (1852-1920 OR) s/o Lovely J. (1830-? VA) = & Rev.=20 Thomas M. Sr. (1822-? VT); Ramsdell, Rev. Tomas M. Sr. (1822-? VT) h/o = Lorilla=20 J. (1830-? VA; f/o David Barclay (1852-1920 OR), Margaret (1854-? OR), = Cordelia (1853-? OR), Lorilla J. Caldwell (1857-? OR), Thomas M. Jr. = (1859-?=20 OR), Oscar (1862-? OR), Ann (1864-? OR), John (1866-? OR) & = Frances=20 (1868-? OR)=20

Got a lot about the Dave Ramsdell place, as per a 1977 interview = with Bea=20 and Jim Parks, Big Elk Valley.=20

J & N Hemstreet wrote:=20

Does your book show a cemetery listing for Agnes Ramsdell who died = in=20 1877?  She was born 30 Mar 1874 to Rev. Thomas Ramsell Jr. and = wife,=20 Laurilla Caldwell Ramsdell, a well known family in Yaquina Bay, = Lincoln,=20 OR.Nancy Hemstreet=20
----- Original Message -----
From:Connie = Guardino
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us
Sent: Friday, October 31, = 2003 10:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots]=20 GLEASON
 I found this tidbit in the "Unusual Graves in = Lincoln=20 County" section of my book:=20

"Jane Fanno and her daughter, Lucy Fanno, are said to be buried = on Ryan=20 Hill near Seal Rock beside the old road. She is the grandmother of = Roy,=20 Guy, Ben and Jennie Twombly."=20

Gary in arizona,I am not searching Gleasons   =20 but     My grandfather's middle name is = Gleason and I=20 have never figured out why. You also name Smiths.   Well = my=20 grandfather's mother was Ellice Smith.   She married = James=20 Twombly in Lee, Penobscot County, Maine.  They first went = to=20 Pennsylvania, then Minnesota then to Oregon. Lincoln = County.Suppose=20 we have a connection in there=20 = somewhere?LillianLSchiendel at aol.com

------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C39FCB.F2661660-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: quote "ROOT Oren and Mystic ROOT were the first claimants to take up a homestead, which was later known in order of purchase as the Partin (my = connection), Graves, Grisel, Micek, or Cannon farm. Several springs eruped from the foothills, which made the location attractive. The ROOTS had a ranch at the lower end of Silver Lake along the old raod and probably did not = live in Summer Lake. ROOT sold the property to James Conley in 1899 and filed a date of intent in 1891. The proper;ty passed through a number of hands, and not until 1920 did Oren ROOT apply for a patent from the U.S. Government. By that time, the ROOTs had gone to Grandville, Michigan" unquote =20 p166 quote"The Marcus PARTINs settled in a cabin near the mouth of=20 Jack Lake on a homestead adjacent to John and Jack PARTIN's ranch. in 1893 they bought the former Orin ROOT claim from Hallis MONTAGUE and Marion CONLEY (Dean CANNON's place). The PARTIN home place now belongs to the State Dept. of Fish and Wildlife." uqnuote =20 Don Houk -----Original Message----- From: Diane [mailto:elder at presys.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:58 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Gary in Arizona/Root surname Gary, I noticed the name, Root, in you research. I found the name Root = ( no first name given) in the 1875 census of Lake County, Oregon. Root = and Hoskins drove a herd of cattle into the Chewaucan Valley of Lake = County, Oregon from California in 1871 according to The History of = Central Oregon . In the 1880 census there is still the Hoskins family, = but I cannot find any mention of Root. Louise Hoskins was age 60 in = 1880 and had a son and grandson living with her. Next door was John = Hoskins, whom I presume was another son, and his wife. I find no Root = in the cemetery listings, nor any Hoskins listed either. =20 Do you have any clues? =20 Thanks, Diane =20 "the names that are covered in this data, which is about 500 pages, are: = hutchinson, mc kee, bill, tuttle, dow, haynes, dunlap, bowen, root, and = bennett. gary in az." ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A135.7C9CA9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From the Book "Settlers in Summer = Lake=20 Valley" by Teressa Foster p178
quote "ROOT
Oren and Mystic ROOT were the = first=20 claimants to take up a homestead,
which was later known in order of = purchase=20 as the Partin (my connection),
Graves, Grisel, Micek, or Cannon = farm.=20 Several springs eruped from the
foothills, which made the location = attractive. The ROOTS had a ranch at
the lower end of Silver Lake along = the old=20 raod and probably did not live
in Summer Lake.  ROOT sold = the property=20 to James Conley in 1899 and
filed a date of intent in 1891. = The=20 proper;ty passed through a number of
hands, and not until 1920 did Oren = ROOT=20 apply for a patent from the U.S.
Government. By that time, the = ROOTs had gone=20 to Grandville, Michigan"
unquote
 
p166 quote"The Marcus PARTINs = settled in a=20 cabin near the mouth of
Jack Lake on a homestead adjacent = to John=20 and Jack PARTIN's ranch.
in 1893 they bought the former = Orin ROOT=20 claim from Hallis MONTAGUE
and Marion CONLEY (Dean CANNON's = place). The=20 PARTIN home place
now belongs to the State Dept. of = Fish and=20 Wildlife." uqnuote
 
Don Houk
-----Original Message-----
From: Diane=20 [mailto:elder at presys.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 = 1:58=20 AM
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject:=20 [or-roots] Gary in Arizona/Root surname


Gary, I noticed the name, Root, in  you = research.  I=20 found the name Root ( no first name given) in the 1875 census of Lake = County,=20 Oregon.  Root and Hoskins drove a herd of cattle into the = Chewaucan=20 Valley of Lake County, Oregon from California in 1871 according to = The=20 History of Central Oregon .  In the 1880 = census=20 there is still the Hoskins family, but I cannot find any mention = of =20 Root.  Louise Hoskins was age 60 in 1880 and had a son and = grandson=20 living with her.  Next door was John Hoskins, whom I presume was = another=20 son, and his wife.  I find no Root in the cemetery listings, nor = any=20 Hoskins listed either.
 
Do you have any clues?
 
Thanks, Diane
 
"the names that are covered in this data, which is about = 500=20 pages, are:  hutchinson, mc kee, bill, tuttle, dow, haynes, = dunlap,=20 bowen, root, and bennett.  gary in az."

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A135.7C9CA9C0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: MILO H. LEE, 68, JENNINGS LODGE: RITES HELD Mr. Lee was born on the Heman Lee land claim near this city April 5, 1872, where he lived all of his life until four years ago when he moved to Jennings Lodge to receive medical treatment. He died Wed. evening, April 17 at the age of 68 years and 12 days. He was a well driller by occupation and dirlled many wells in the northwest before he was taken ill four years ago. He leaves his wife, Mary Bonney Lee and one adopted daughter, Mrs. Nelson Meten, both of Gladstone; and one son, Homer Lee of Los Angeles, CA. Two possibilities for Homer Lee: From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Homer Lee, 541-09-3715, b. 17 Jan 1901, d. Apr 1983 in OR Last zip code: 97213 = Portland Homer Lee, 542-10-6176, b. 21 Jul 1905, d. Feb 1972 in OR Last zip coce: 97402 = Eugene OR he may have died in California. ?? Note: Mrs. Nelson Meten's first name is Velma. No further info. on her. I couldn't find her in the Oregon Death Index. Perhaps she left Oregon or perhaps she remarried after his death, or perhaps her name wasn't really Velma?? Nels Meten was b. 15 Nov 1892, d. 8 Mar 1977 at the age of 84. Soc. sec. 542-36-5675. Last known zip code: 97027 = Gladstone, Oregon; Last zip code where benefits sent: 97045 = Oregon City. Candis is a descendant of Heman Allen Lee but not through Milo Lee. Virgene Travis in Montana ----- Original Message ----- From: "gary murray" To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Re: Lee-Hutchinson-Soper > VIRGENE: thanks so much for what you put on the list. every little bit > helps. i should have gotten more data from candis as i think she has the > lee family way back. this is not a direct line for me but anything with the > name bonney attached is of interest. if i remember correctly candis desc. > thru this bonney/lee line. thanks again to you and all who helped me with > this line. > gary, now in az. > -----Original Message----- > From: Virgene and Dean Travis > To: Oregon Roots List- OR > Date: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:10 PM > Subject: [or-roots] Re: Lee-Hutchinson-Soper > > > >Gary -- > > Philander Lee is on the 1860 census in Clackamas Co., OR, Family 1068 > ... > >unfortunately I didn't record the page number. > > Philander Lee (1801-12 Jan 1887) had a son named Heman Allen Lee, > b. > >29 March 1833 in Jefferson Co., NY; d. 7 Jan 1914 in Canby, Clackamas Co., > >OR .. is in the Zion/Pioneer Cem. there. For more info. on Heman see: > >An Illustrated History of the State of Oregon, H.K, Hines, D. D. Lewis > >Publishing Co., 1893, page 689. > > A daughter of Heman A. Lee is named Clara C. Lee (b. 17 May 1868 in > >Canby, d. 15 March 1926 in Newberg, Yamhill Co., OR and buried in the Canby > >Zion/Pioneer Cemetery.) She m. (1st) Elijah Dow Hutchinson on 1 Jun 1890 > >in Clackamas Co. Elijah Hutchinson died 16 May 1902 in Eugene and is also > >buried in Canby. Then in about 1912, Clara married (2nd) Ransom or > Ranson > >SOPER. He was b. about 1868 and died Jan. 1914. (From writings of Myra > >Weston of Canby, OR-- a Clackamas Co., Oregon historian) comes the > >following: "Clara had six children, was Canby milliner and first telephone > >operator; as widow she married Ransom Soper." I don't have date of the > >marriage, but probably you > >can find it somewhere in Oregon Marriage Records. > >Clara's Death Certificate: > >Newberg, Yamhill Co., OR, Reg. No. 47 > >Clara C. Soper, 721 First, Newberg > >Female, White, Widowed > > etc. > > As far as I know, Clara and Mr. Soper did not have any children. > >He may have been married previously??? A KEITH SOPER was one of the > >pallbearers at the funeral of Leonard Garver in Walla Walla, WA in June > >1964. Leonard Garver is a descendant of Philinda Lee Green Terwilliger. > >Philinda is a sister to Philander Lee. > > > > Have fun trying to put this puzzle together! > > Virgene Travis > > in Montana > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "gary murray" > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 6:42 AM > >Subject: Re: [or-roots] Re:REUBEN SOPER > > > > > >> VIOLET: thanks so much for the search results. i have a real problem > >> taking anything from the internet. when i first started this obsession, > >> about 30 -35 years ago, i did not bother with sources but i soon learned > >> that sources are everything. if you can't prove where the info came > from, > >> it is worthless info. and the internet is full of family genealogies with > >no > >> sources. i have written to many, and i mean many, of the listers on the > >net > >> and have gotten less than a few returns. mostly people that seem to do > >> genealogy are name gatherers and not genealogists. the very few > responses > >i > >> have rec'd list sources as someone elses gedcom or nothing at all. i do > >> certainly want to thank you for your time and trouble on this one. my > >> powers line goes back to walter power who was the immigrant. i have a > >> wonderful power/s book which lists all the sources. thanks again for > your > >> post. it is much appreciated. > >> gary in az. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Violet Sunderland > >> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >> Date: Saturday, November 01, 2003 11:01 PM > >> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Re:REUBEN SOPER > >> > >> > >> >Hi Gary, > >> > > >> >I found these with Google: > >> > > >> >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jselwa/webpage/g374.html > >> > > >> >http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/jagard/html/index/ind0044.HTM > >> > > >> >I was interested because I've just made a breakthrough on my POWERS > >> >line (paternal) but mine is Kentucky, possibly back to South Carolina > >> >or Virginia. > >> > > >> >I subscribe to the LEE list and the only Philander LEE was in > >> >Tennessee in the 1860 census. Not mine either. Mine traces to one > >> >Peter LEE in Massachusetts. Some of his descendants were Loyalists who > >> >went to Canada and my line was in Eaton Co. MI in the 1850s. > >> > > >> >One other surname lately is BOWEN. It is known in Cornwall and > >> >Devonshire also. Did you know that ap in Welsh means 'son of'? When > >> >the name starts with a vowel, the p becomes b and the a is dropped, so > >> >ab Owen becomes Bowen. In one instance I know of, it became BONE, > >> >possibly when a parish clerk or census taker spelled what he heard. My > >> >grandfather's sister-in-law was born in LaMar, Colorado in the early > >> >1880s, the daughter of one Josh BOWEN. (No other info on him.) > >> > > >> >Violet Sunderland > >> >mailto:ndloop at wvi.com > >> >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >> > > >> >gary murray wrote: > >> >> > >> >> GOOD MORNING: does anyone know anything about reuben soper who m. > >> tryphena > >> >> priscilla powers on 13 feb. 1853 in portland, oregon? would also like > >to > >> >> know if he is related to any of the other soper's that married into > the > >> >> hutchinson line. thanks. > >> >> gary in az. > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >or-roots mailing list > >> >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >> >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> or-roots mailing list > >> or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >> http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >or-roots mailing list > >or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > >http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: pmml at navicom.com From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "an Ameche, slang for a telephone since the early 1940s, after movie actor Don Ameche played the lead in the 1939 movie The Story of Alexander Graham Bell." Pg 503 Barb wulf at bendcable.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Chris Strickland" To: Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: [or-roots] OT - other names for the telephone > If this list can tolerate one more off topic post, I am looking for > another name for the telephone, now rather obsolete and obscure -- it is > a name sort of like calling a radio a 'Marconi', but of course that is > wireless, and I'm talking about the old-fashioned wired telephone. > > If you know the answer to the question, you will know what I am talking > about ... > > Thanks, > > Bill Strickland > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "Access to Records by Veterans, Next-of-Kin, or the Veteran's = Representative." The point here is "Veterans and next-of-kin of = deceased veterans have the same rights to full access to the record. = Next-of-kin are the un-remarried widow or widower, son or daughter, = father or mother, brother or sister of the deceased veteran." A request = from this category can be done using the Internet but a "Signature = Verification" form must be filled out and either FAX or mailed within 20 = days. =20 FAX NUMBER: 314-801-9049 MAILING ADDRESS: "NPRC WEB, 9700 Page Avenue, Saint Louis, Missouri = 63132-5100"=20 =20 NOTE: Due to routine processing this web application will not be = available for use from 12:31 AM EST until 5:59 AM EST. Please submit = your requests during the hours of 6:00 AM EST and 12:30 AM EST. =20 =20 =20 If your status as "Next of Kin" is not defined above then you must fill = out a "Standard Form 180". This form can either be FAX or mailed. This = form can be obtained numerous ways. (1) From the WEB Site, (2) By = writing to NPRC and asking for the form, (3) by FAX on demand, (4) From = Department of Defense, (5) Federal Information Centers, (6) US Veterans = Administrations Offices, (7) Local Veterans Service organizations, (8) = State and County Veterans Offices =20 FAX NUMBER: 314-801-9195 MAILING ADDRESS: "National Personnel Records Center, Military Personnel = Records, 9700 Page Avenue, Saint Louis, Missouri 63132-5100" =20 The minimum information needed is the veteran's Name used while in the = military, Veterans SSAN, Veteran's Date of Birth, Place of Birth, Date = of Death. =20 Additional information that will speed up the search of a Veteran's = records is: What branch of service, Dates of Service, Officer or = Enlisted, and Military Service Number. Also was the veteran on "Active = Service", "Reserve Service", or "National Guard" =20 With nothing else but the basic Veterans information and using the US = Mail system both ways it took 7 months to receive my Father-In-Law = military records. His period of service was from July 1941 to Oct 1963. Once I got these records I scan them (All 92 pages) and then went = through them with a fine tooth comb. I discovered he had been married = previously. His address when he entered the US Army, what his = occupation was prior to coming into the military. His mother's address = and his sister married name and address. =20 These records also include all his awards and decorations. And a point = I would like to make is that as the next of kin you can request a = complete set of the Veteran's military decorations. Use the same = "Standard Form 180" as you did to obtain the veterans records and = sending it to the following address for those veterans who were = discharged or retired from the US Military. =20 =20 "National Archives and Records Administration "National Personnel Records Center 9700 Page Avenue Saint Louis, Missouri 63132-1547 =20 Request and inquiries for reservists should be sent to: =20 "National Archives and Records Administration "National Personnel Records Center One Reserve Way Saint Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 =20 An acceptable statement for requesting a replacement of a Veteran medals = and awards would be that the original medals and awards have been lost, = stolen or were never issued. (Pick One). To expedite this process = enclosed copies of any documentation you received when you got the = veterans military records.=20 Eugene Melvin Portland, Oregon ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C3D7D7.42431960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The content of this message = maybe=20 reproduced without any reference to this = author.

 

 

This information is provided = in hopes to=20 enlighten others who are not familiar with the United States = Military.  A lot of this information is = available=20 on the WEB Site listed below.  = I am=20 also going into some detail for those of us who do not have access to = the=20 Internet.

 

A great WEB Site to start your = search=20 is http://www.archives.gov/facilities/mo/st_louis/military_pers= onnel_records.html

 

From here you have many = different links to=20 chose from.  The=20 first one is =93Access to Records by Veterans, = Next-of-Kin, or=20 the Veteran's Representative.=94  The point here is = =93Veterans and next-of-kin of deceased veterans = have the same=20 rights to full access to the record. =20 Next-of-kin are the un-remarried widow or widower, son or = daughter,=20 father or mother, brother or sister of the deceased veteran.=94 =20 A request = from this=20 category can be done using the Internet but a =93Signature = Verification=94 form must=20 be filled out and either FAX or mailed within 20=20 days.

 

FAX NUMBER: =20 314-801-9049

MAILING ADDRESS:  =93NPRC WEB, 9700 Page Avenue, = Saint=20 Louis, Missouri 63132-5100=94

 

NOTE: Due to routine = processing this=20 web application will not be available for use from 12:31 AM EST until = 5:59 AM=20 EST.  Please submit your = requests=20 during the hours of 6:00 AM EST and 12:30 AM = EST.

 

 

 

If your status as =93Next of = Kin=94 is not=20 defined above then you must fill out a =93Standard Form 180=94.  This form can either be FAX or = mailed.  This form can be = obtained=20 numerous ways.  (1) From = the WEB=20 Site, (2) By writing to NPRC and asking for the form, (3) by FAX on = demand, (4)=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Veterans=20 Administrations Offices, (7) Local Veterans Service organizations, (8) = State and=20 County Veterans Offices

 

FAX NUMBER: =20 314-801-9195

MAILING ADDRESS:  =93National Personnel = Records=20 Center, Military Personnel Records, 9700 = Page Avenue,=20 Saint Louis, Missouri 63132-5100=94

 

The minimum information needed = is the=20 veteran=92s Name used while in the military, Veterans SSAN, Veteran=92s = Date of=20 Birth, Place of Birth, Date of Death.

 

Additional information that = will speed up=20 the search of a Veteran=92s records is: What branch of service, Dates of = Service,=20 Officer or Enlisted, and Military Service Number.  Also was the veteran on = =93Active=20 Service=94, =93Reserve Service=94, or =93National = Guard=94

 

With nothing else but the = basic Veterans=20 information and using the US Mail system both ways it took 7 months to = receive=20 my Father-In-Law military records. =20 His period of service was from July 1941 to Oct=20 1963.

 

Once I got these records I = scan them (All=20 92 pages) and then went through them with a fine tooth comb.  I discovered he had been = married=20 previously.  His address = when he=20 entered the US Army, what his occupation was prior to coming into the=20 military.  His mother=92s = address and=20 his sister married name and address.

 

These records also include all = his awards=20 and decorations.  And a = point I=20 would like to make is that as the next of kin you can request a complete = set of=20 the Veteran=92s military decorations. =20 Use the same =93Standard Form 180=94 as you did to obtain the = veterans=20 records and sending it to the following address for those veterans who = were=20 discharged or retired from the US Military. 

 

=93National Archives and = Records=20 Administration

=93National Personnel = Records=20 Center

9700 Page=20 Avenue

Saint Louis, Missouri=20 63132-1547

 

Request and inquiries for = reservists=20 should be sent to:

 

=93National Archives and = Records=20 Administration

=93National Personnel = Records=20 Center

One Reserve=20 Way

Saint Louis, Missouri=20 63132-5100

 

An acceptable statement for = requesting a=20 replacement of a Veteran medals and awards would be that the original = medals and=20 awards have been lost, stolen or were never issued.  (Pick One).  To expedite this process = enclosed copies=20 of any documentation you received when you got the veterans military=20 records. 

 

Eugene = Melvin

Portland,=20 Oregon

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Hello, I am Celeste Chandler , a descendent of Joseph and Lisette Laver= dure=20 down through their daughter  Anne (Laverdure) McGinnis and John=20 McGinnis
 on down to their daughter Lizze Belle McGinnis Haight and he= r=20 first husband Joseph Cornelius Haight.
The names of my ancestors are Laverdure/Lavadoure, McGinnis and=20 Haight, all found to be in and around the Douglas County area from
very early 1800's on through to the late 1940's.
 
Joseph Laverdure/Lavadoure is known to have trapped with Alexander Dumo= nt=20 down on the South Umpqua very early in the 1800's. 
Joseph was an engage with the HBC.  Family stories are that his wi= fe=20 Lissette was Cayuse/Palouse/Walla Walla and Nez Perce.  We are wor= king=20 to learn  Lissette was indeed from these family groups or from Can= ada=20 as her daughter Anne's Death Certificate notes.
 
John was last found in the 1920 Census living at the Indigent=20 Hospital. 
**I would like to learn more about the Indigent Hospital and they handl= ed=20 the burial of their charges; where they buried their dead. 
 Johns DC lists a M.E. Ritter as the undertaker.  I would lik= e to=20 learn if Mr. Ritter belonged to any one funeral home, and if they may have s= ome=20 added information.
Has anyone else had Indigent Hospital relatives to locate?
My John McGinnis died at a claimed age of 105 years. in 1920, and Anne=20= his=20 wife, died at age 78 in 1919
 
Thank you,
Celeste Chandler
Laverdure/Lavadoure, McGinnis, Haight
Early 1800's Oregon and Washington Territory
From Canada, New York, N. Carolina/Tennessee, Ohio, Iowa, Oregon,=20 California
 
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"Of those pioneer days his daughter, Mrs. J. N. Clanahan, has many = thrilling=20 remembrances. As for instance, the stormy days in 1880 when the famous = old camp=20 meeting grove was blown down. The boom of the falling trees was too much = for the=20 nerve of the schoolteacher and her class in mental arithmetic. Classes = were=20 dismissed and as they left the building a roof came sailing over their = heads.=20 They scurried up to the Sleret blacksmith shop near where the Currin = home now=20 stands. That roof was gone, too, but there sat the Smithy, George = Sleret, the=20 elder, on his anvil. He did not propose to have it follow the roof!

"Mrs. Clanahan remembers when her mother considered $50 a rather = excessive=20 price for a barrel of flour. At that time quinine cost the doctor $10 an = ounce!=20 Realty prices were somewhat lower. In the early sixties Dr. Powell sold = 80 acres=20 of farm land (the smith place on Wallula Heights) to a Mr. Smith for a = team of=20 horses and harness.

"Dr. Powell died in 1909 and Mrs. Powell in 1911, two well-loved = pioneers who=20 played an important part in the building of Gresham" =96Printed on the = Gresham=20 Outlook, July 4, 1919.

 

Maternal Family Record of Nina Laura Emken Gill

Daniel Powell (English), born August 4,1765, died August 28, = 1825.

Mary, wife of Daniel Powell (German), born December 23, 1765, = died=20 December 25, 1820

Family of Daniel and Mary Powell:

Pricilla Powell, born August 30, 1792

Cader Powell, born September 12, 1795

Christina Powell, born January 12, 1798

James Powell, born April 22, 1800, died,

January 12,1870. (Married Nancy Swan

Parker April 9, 1799; died January 12, 1870)

Julia Powell, born June 5, 1808

Mary Powell, born June 25, 1870. (not the author)

Jacob Powell, born June 5, 1808

Hance Powell, born June 6, 1811

Sarah Powell, born January 8 1813

Family of James and Nancy Swan Parker Powell:

Nancy Swan Parker (English), was born in North Carolina

John Parker Powell, born October 4, 1822

Mary Swan Powell, born September 29, 1824

Christina Ann Powell, born December 30, 1826; married John H = Davis

Rebecca Powell, born January 31, 1829

Sarah Jane Powell, born April 27, 1834

Rhoda Simerel Powell, born March 23, 1837

James A. J. Powell, born May 14, 1840

Family of Christiana A. Powell and John H. DuVall:

John H DuVall, born December 18, 1829 in Illinois, died in the summer = of 1852=20 of Cholera while crossing the Plains. Married Christiana "Kitty" Powell = December=20 30, 1848

Christiana "Kitty" Powell December 30, 1848 in Missouri

Children of John H. DuVall and Christiana Powell:

Costanza A. DuVall, born December 9, 1849

Clark M. DuVall, born November 19, 1851

After the death of John DuVall, Christiana married Kttemeir in 18t52 = but=20 divorced him in a few months

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We typed this up for Ray Powell

I hope there was a clue or 2 in here for = some=20 one.

------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C3E042.CFDC71E0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Death Date: 07 Feb 1935 Certificate: 9 Spouse: Pearl Oregon Historical Records Case# Name Kirby, Novatus & Barber, Pearl Date 10-22-1909 Record Type Marriage County Tillamook Source Health Identifier State Registrar Remarks Estate Record from Oregon Archives Case# 1214 Name Kirby, Novatus N Date 12-31-1935 Record Type Estate County Tillamook Source Genealogical Identifier Remarks ----- Original Message ----- From: "phillips" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:51 PM Subject: [or-roots] Novatus Kirby/Pearl Barber > > Hi all. I decided it was my turn to ask for help finding family members. > > Novatus Nell Kirby b. 3/18/1887 married Pearl Luella Barber in Tillamook > 10/22/1909 (the only record I can find). I know they are buried in a small > cemetery north of Tillamook. I assume he was born in Wisconsin as his > parents, Novatus and Katherine, had land there. I have not been able to > track a birth/death date or census for either Pearl or Novatus in any online > Oregon records. The birth date I have is from the only living child and it > may not be correct. > > They had children named Beatrice Mabel, Lolas, Novatus Neal, Lorena all born > in the Tillamook area. > > Thanks for anything... > > Stacie Phillips > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: connected with the Albertina Kerr adoption people. Barb wulf at bendcable.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 11:26 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Baby Louise Home in Portland > Nancy; > > It looks like from the stuff Barbara found that it was definitely a > hospital, it is possible that the term inmate was used in the broad context > of "resident in an institution" rather than "prisoner" as we think of it > now. My webster's defines inmate as " one of a group occupying a single > residence" as well as prisoner or asylum resident. > > I encountered this when I found one of my dad's ancestors, I forget whether > it was grandmother or aunt, who was a teacher. I thought it was a prison > when I saw the column of inmates, but then down the side it gave the name of > the school. > > Les C > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Nancy Noble > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:01 PM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: [or-roots] Baby Louise Home in Portland > > > Can anyone out there tell me about the Louise Home in Portland? In the 1930 > census, the girls there are all called "inmates", but it seems to me that I > can remember a time when it was a prenatal residence and birthing hospital > for unwed mothers....and were adoptions arranged thru the home, also? Any > information about the Home would be welcome! > > Nancy in Salem > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.572 / Virus Database: 362 - Release Date: 1/27/04 > > > _______________________________________________ > or-roots mailing list > or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: the Louise Home was where "wayward" girls were sent when pregnant. These unwed girls were not exactly prisioners but were not allowed to leave until after their babies were born. Most baby's were adopted out. Carroll (Cooper) Summers From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: connected with the Albertina Kerr adoption people. Barb wulf at bendcable.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Chapman" To: Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 11:26 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Baby Louise Home in Portland > Nancy; > > It looks like from the stuff Barbara found that it was definitely a > hospital, it is possible that the term inmate was used in the broad context > of "resident in an institution" rather than "prisoner" as we think of it > now. My webster's defines inmate as " one of a group occupying a single > residence" as well as prisoner or asylum resident. > > I encountered this when I found one of my dad's ancestors, I forget whether > it was grandmother or aunt, who was a teacher. I thought it was a prison > when I saw the column of inmates, but then down the side it gave the name of > the school. > > Les C > > -----Original Message----- > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Nancy Noble > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:01 PM > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us > Subject: [or-roots] Baby Louise Home in Portland > > > Can anyone out there tell me about the Louise Home in Portland? In the 1930 > census, the girls there are all called "inmates", but it seems to me that I > can remember a time when it was a prenatal residence and birthing hospital > for unwed mothers....and were adoptions arranged thru the home, also? Any > information about the Home would be welcome! > > Nancy in Salem > --- -------------------------------1076947457 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From what I can remember of growing up in Portland during the '= 30's and 40's the Louise Home was where "wayward" girls were sent when pregn= ant. These unwed girls were not exactly prisioners but were not allowed to l= eave until after their babies were born. Most baby's were adopted out.
 
Carroll (Cooper) Summers
From the other stuff I found from Google.com&n= bsp; it looks like they were
connected with the Albertina Kerr adoption p= eople.

Barb
wulf at bendcable.com
http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/P= roject/siteMapNoImage.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie=20= Chapman" <khanjehgil at presys.com>
To: <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state= .or.us>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: [or-r= oots] Baby Louise Home in Portland


> Nancy;
>
> It= looks like from the stuff Barbara found that it was definitely a
> ho= spital, it is possible that the term inmate was used in the broad
context=
> of "resident in an institution" rather than "prisoner" as we think=20= of it
> now. My webster's defines inmate as " one of a group occupying= a single
> residence" as well as prisoner or asylum resident.
>=
> I encountered this when I found one of my dad's ancestors, I forget=
whether
> it was grandmother or aunt, who was a teacher. I thought= it was a prison
> when I saw the column of inmates, but then down the= side it gave the name
of
> the school.
>
> Les C
&g= t;
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.s= os.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Beh= alf Of Nancy Noble
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:01 PM
> T= o: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
> Subject: [or-roots] Baby Louise=20= Home in Portland
>
>
> Can anyone out there tell me about=20= the Louise Home in Portland?  In the
1930
> census, the girls=20= there are all called "inmates", but it seems to me that
I
> can rem= ember a time when it was a prenatal residence and birthing hospital
>=20= for unwed mothers....and were adoptions arranged thru the home, also? =20= Any
> information about the Home would be welcome!
>
> Nan= cy in Salem
> ---
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Hi Listers:
 
From my mother's estate I have two photos of = family=20 gatherings; one from 1935, the other from 1946.  I knew several of = the=20 people in each photo.  The back of the 1935 photo has a list of the = names=20 of people in the picture; the back of the 1946 photo is blank.  = There is=20 one major problem with the 1935 photo list of names.
 
If I had never known Fern Anderson, nee unknown = (wife of=20 my maternal grandmother's brother), I would not have known who was = "me" and=20 "mother"; as listed on the back of the photo.
 
The 1946 photo is a family reunion of the = Larwence clan in=20 LA that includes 24 people.  I can identify 10 of them, and have = known 8 of=20 them in their life times.  I do not know of anyone living who can = identify=20 the others.
 
When you take pictures of family members to put = in your=20 photo albums, PLEASE write the full names of everyone on the back!  = I have=20 many photos from the early 1900's of people I cannot identify. =20 :-(
 
Cecil
 
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PO Box 530833
San = Diego CA=20 92153
FAX 619-428-6434
mailto:cchouk at cox.net
ANDERSON - = BLAKLEY -=20 FORD - HOUK - KIMSEY - MOE - RULAFORD - SIMPSON
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KccWpa1kqUpR1KieZJpjT6e6UcXE3uk9YrDJ9jWtaRYr/9k= ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C4148A.3FA18990-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Name Year Record Type County Source Number=20 Murchison, Waite Edwin 03-17-1878 Evidence Union Health 0448=20 Murchison, Dan W 11-21-1876 Delayed Birth Union Health 20321=20 Murchison, Wait Edmond 03-17-1878 Delayed Birth Union Health 448=20 Park, Anna Murchison 04-14-1885 Delayed Birth Union Health 41223=20 Murchison, Charles Oscar 03-30-1886 Delayed Birth Union Health 28806=20 Murchison, Vera May Willett 07-31-1890 Delayed Birth Union Health 28972=20 Murchison, Ralph Vern 11-07-1895 Delayed Birth Union Health 657/33225=20 Murchison, Marian Olive 10-02-1900 Delayed Birth Union Health 10503=20 Murchison, Charles O & Willett, Vera Marriage Union Health =20 Now, Googling "murchison union oregon" I got a list of WWII casualties, some naturalization records, etc. Here are some bios from Union. One probably a relative. I suspect that = Duncan is this fellows grandfather. http://www.oregongenealogy.com/union/bios.htm Hope this helps, sorry we don't have Duncan's wife's name. Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us = [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of WillowWil at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 16:15 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Union County? Hi, I just signed up. Does anyone have information for Union County? = Anyone have any information on a Duncan Murchison died about 1880 in Union County. Wife's name not = known. =20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Name Year Record Type County Source Number Murchison, Waite Edwin 03-17-1878 Evidence Union Health 0448 Murchison, Dan W 11-21-1876 Delayed Birth Union Health 20321 Murchison, Wait Edmond 03-17-1878 Delayed Birth Union Health 448 Park, Anna Murchison 04-14-1885 Delayed Birth Union Health 41223 Murchison, Charles Oscar 03-30-1886 Delayed Birth Union Health 28806 Murchison, Vera May Willett 07-31-1890 Delayed Birth Union Health 28972 Murchison, Ralph Vern 11-07-1895 Delayed Birth Union Health 657/33225 Murchison, Marian Olive 10-02-1900 Delayed Birth Union Health 10503 Murchison, Charles O & Willett, Vera Marriage Union Health Now, Googling "murchison union oregon" I got a list of WWII casualties, some naturalization records, etc. Here are some bios from Union. One probably a relative. I suspect that Duncan is this fellows grandfather. http://www.oregongenealogy.com/union/bios.htm Hope this helps, sorry we don't have Duncan's wife's name. Pat (in Tucson) Thank you for all your work. It was kind of you to take all that time. Why am I brave to join this list -------------------------------1086898577 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 6/9/2004 5:26:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kith-n-ki= n at att.net writes:
To WillowWil (Willow the Wisp?)

What a=20= brave soul to tackle this list. Here is some stuff I found for you.

1= 870 United States Federal Census

B A Murchison3 1866Oregon White Not= Stated, Union, ORFemale
Belle Murchison20 1849Illinois White Not Stated= , Union, ORFemale
D Murchison62 1807Scotland White Not Stated, Union, OR= Male
H Murchison30 1839Scotland White Not Stated, Union, ORMale
J Mu= rchison40 1829Scotland White Not Stated, Union, ORMale
J A Murchison18 1= 851Illinois White Not Stated, Union, ORMale
L Murchison9 1860Illinois Wh= ite Not Stated, Union, ORFemale
M Murchison51 1818Scotland White Not Sta= ted, Union, ORMale
S Murchison40 1829Scotland White Not Stated, Union, O= RFemale


In 1880 there was:

Farkmar MURCISON50<1830>= SCO Self Single White Male Summerville, Union, OR
Anna MURCHASON23<185= 7>Iowa Wife Married White Female Summerville, Union, OR
Duncan MURCHAS= ON70<1810>SCO Father Widower White Male Summerville, Union, OR
Eddi= e MURCHASON2<1878>Oregon Son Single White Male Summerville, Union, OR<= BR>James MURCHASON26<1854>Illinois Self Married White Male Summerville= , Union, OR
John MURCHASON6M<1880>Oregon Son Single White Male Summ= erville, Union, OR
Maimy MURCHASON4<1876>Oregon Dau Single White Fe= male Summerville, Union, OR

By 1910, there was

Daniel W Murch= isonSUMMERVILLE, UNION, Oregon32 1877  White Male
John A MurchisonS= UMMERVILLE, UNION, Oregon38 1871Oregon White Male
Kenath MurchisonSUMMER= VILLE, UNION, Oregon83 1826  White Male

These all from Ancestry= .com. Since you are new to us, here are some other sources for you:

T= he Oregon Death Index (also on Ancestry, but records are in Salem at OR Stat= e Archives) we have:

Name:    Murchison, Duncan
County:=     Union 
Death Date:    11 Nov 1918  Certificate:    144 
Hmmm -- a problem here? Probably, p= erhaps this is Dan? Have to look at the record.

From the OR State Arc= hives, we have: http://genealogy.state.or.us/start.lasso?location=3Dsearch
Name Year Record Type County Source Number
Murchison, Waite Edwin=20= 03-17-1878 Evidence Union Health 0448
Murchison, Dan W 11-21-1876 Delaye= d Birth Union Health 20321
Murchison, Wait Edmond 03-17-1878 Delayed Bir= th Union Health 448
Park, Anna Murchison 04-14-1885 Delayed Birth Union=20= Health 41223
Murchison, Charles Oscar 03-30-1886 Delayed Birth Union Hea= lth 28806
Murchison, Vera May Willett 07-31-1890 Delayed Birth Union Hea= lth 28972
Murchison, Ralph Vern 11-07-1895 Delayed Birth Union Health 65= 7/33225
Murchison, Marian Olive 10-02-1900 Delayed Birth Union Health 10= 503
Murchison, Charles O & Willett, Vera  Marriage Union Health=  

Now, Googling "murchison union oregon"

I got a list of= WWII casualties, some naturalization records, etc.

Here are some bio= s from Union. One probably a relative. I suspect that Duncan is this fellows= grandfather.

http://www.oregongenealogy.com/union/bios.htm

Ho= pe this helps, sorry we don't have Duncan's wife's name.

Pat (in Tucs= on)
Thank you for all your work.  It was kind of you to t= ake all that time.      Why am I brave to join this list=
-------------------------------1086898577-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Sutherlin, he was the father of Fendel (Fendal) Sutherlin. John was a = pioneer to Oregon of 1850 from Greencastle, Indiana and claimed a = relationship to Benjamin Franklin. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Patrick=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Geographic Names Board Anyone out there know how Sutherlin got its name.? How about Winchester?,my dad lost an arm in a train wreck there in = 1916 dpatrick at calweb.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Betty Moreland=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Geographic Names Board Have you heard the story about Noti,Oregon. A Siuslaw Indian and A = white settler were heading from mapleton to Eugene. The Indiahad a = horse and offered to share the horse. They started out with the Indian = riding and the white settler running. At the agreed on tie spots the = rider would tie up the horse and then startwalking. All went well until = the spot where Noti was later settled. the white settler decided he had = more right to ride than the siuslaw. When the whiteman reached Eugene he = stopped at the local bar to drink. The Indian continued walking from = Noti to Eugene. When he arrived at the bar He came in and informed the = crowd, "Him no tie." The white man was arrested. And noone was allowed = to forget his mistake. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Glen Jones=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon Geographic Names Board He also had something going on here in Portland but I was unable = to go, it is really interesting home some of the places got their names, = Northwest history is something I am really into as a lot of it involves = family on my Father's side. Sure be glad when I can retire in September then I can go do what = I want. Glen Jones ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Diane=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Geographic Names Board If anyone is interesting in seeing how we arrive at the = names...meet the writer of Oregon Geographic Names...(one fantastic = Lewis McArthur). Join us for our summer meeting in Klamath Falls on = June 26th. We will be meeting at 1:30 p.m. in the Mt Scott Room at the = Shilo Inn near the OIT campus just off Highway 97 in the north part of = Klamath Falls. Diane ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C455F9.3AD98C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David
 
From some information I have = Sutherlin was named after John Franklin Sutherlin, = he was the=20 father of Fendel (Fendal) Sutherlin. John was a pioneer to Oregon of = 1850 from=20 Greencastle, Indiana and claimed a relationship to Benjamin=20 Franklin.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Patrick
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 = 10:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Oregon = Geographic=20 Names Board

Anyone out there know how Sutherlin = got its=20 name.?
How about Winchester?,my dad lost an = arm in a=20 train wreck there in 1916
dpatrick at calweb.com
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Betty Moreland
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 = 11:47=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Oregon=20 Geographic Names Board

Have you heard the story about = Noti,Oregon. A=20 Siuslaw Indian and A white settler  were heading from mapleton = to=20 Eugene. The Indiahad a horse and offered to share the horse. They = started=20 out with the Indian riding and the white settler running. At the = agreed on=20 tie spots the rider would tie up the horse and then startwalking. = All went=20 well until the spot where Noti was later settled. the white settler = decided=20 he had more right to ride than the siuslaw. When the whiteman = reached Eugene=20 he stopped at the local bar to drink. The Indian continued walking = from Noti=20 to Eugene. When he arrived at the bar He came in and informed the = crowd,=20 "Him no tie." The white man was arrested. And noone was allowed to = forget=20 his mistake.
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Glen Jones
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Saturday, June 12, = 2004 5:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Oregon=20 Geographic Names Board

He also had something going on here in Portland but I was = unable to=20 go, it is really interesting home some of the places got their = names,=20 Northwest history is something I am really into as a lot of it = involves=20 family on my Father's side.
Sure be glad when I can retire in September then I can go do = what I=20 want.
Glen Jones
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Diane=20
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Saturday, June 12, = 2004 4:32=20 PM
Subject: [or-roots] = Oregon=20 Geographic Names Board

If anyone is interesting in seeing how = we arrive=20 at the names...meet the writer of Oregon Geographic = Names...(one =20 fantastic Lewis McArthur).  Join us for our summer meeting = in=20 Klamath Falls on June 26th.  We will be meeting at 1:30 = p.m. in the=20 Mt Scott Room at the Shilo Inn near the OIT campus just off = Highway 97=20 in the north part of Klamath Falls.  Diane
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C4AB16.26B5DEE0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Tenmile DG173 GNIS: 430555N 1233355W Tenmile WGS-84 Datum: N43 05.9061 W123 33.9867 UTM: 10 453994E 4771703N DD.DDDD: 43.0986N, 123.5653W 2 acres 1886 T/R: T28S R7W section 31 Status: List: Photo: -----Original Message----- From: Judy Folden Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:17 PM Subject: [or-roots] Nichols Place Some of my family(the McCulloch) is buried at the Nichols Place at Ten Mile near Roseburg, Douglas County. Can anyone tell me if the cemetery is on private property and if vistors are welcome? I would like to make a trip down from Aberdeen WA to visit and find information. Thanks Judy Folden --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.727 / Virus Database: 482 - Release Date: 7/26/04 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was Beasley. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in Oregon, mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of kin was Ruth Holdsclaw. The Murphy line: 1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter), Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George (son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy, Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure what that means ? other, orphan? 2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California, father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at a logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122. 3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood, a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus (daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11, page 282A. You had this, I think. 4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California, died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas, Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: County, California. He was 60 years old. I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, >North Bend, Oregon > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > >Thank you. > >Erick Olofsson > > > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was Beasley. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in Oregon, mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of kin was Ruth Holdsclaw. The Murphy line: 1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter), Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George (son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy, Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure what that means ? other, orphan? 2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California, father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at a logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122. 3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood, a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus (daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11, page 282A. You had this, I think. 4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California, died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas, Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: County, California. He was 60 years old. I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, >North Bend, Oregon > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > >Thank you. > >Erick Olofsson > > > _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots --0-2061563804-1104954382=:41618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello Cheryl,
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Your super.
I appreciate all of tor help.
Erick

Cheryl Fitzsimons <fitzcf at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,

I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find
much more than you did. Here is what I have:

Murile Peterson
If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the
archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared on
March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter,
Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So
it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the
Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004.

Olaf Peterson, Sr.
You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him
in the 1900 census records.

Olaf Peterson, Jr.
1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in
California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the
Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page
190B.

Is this Ruth Peterson?
Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark,
mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum
in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could
this be the convent remembered in your family stories?

From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Ruth Lillian Horn, SSN
571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno
County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was
Beasley.

From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Olaf L. Peterson died 1
February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in Oregon,
mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054.

From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Chester Howard Holdsclaw, SSN
551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in
Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy.
From the Oakhill Cemetery Inscriptions: Chester H. Holdsclaw died 30 March
1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill
Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of
kin was Ruth Holdsclaw.

The Murphy line:
1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter),
Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George
(son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy,
Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure
what that means ? other, orphan?
2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California,
father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at a
logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122.
3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood,
a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus
(daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11,
page 282A. You had this, I think.
4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California,
died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California
Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas,
Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there.

From www.vitalsearch-ca.com: Alonzo Holdsclaw died 9 April 1932 in Fresno
County, California. He was 60 years old.

I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research.

Cheryl


>From: Erick G Olofsson
>Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
>To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
>Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup.
>Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his
>child Marile Peterson as shown below:
>
>OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark
>
>Married Lottie Hall born April1868
>
>Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal.
>
>Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child:
>
>Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street,
>North Bend, Oregon
>
>Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find
>them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Erick Olofsson
>
>
>


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--0-2061563804-1104954382=:41618-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was Beasley. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in Oregon, mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of kin was Ruth Holdsclaw. The Murphy line: 1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter), Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George (son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy, Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure what that means ? other, orphan? 2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California, father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at a logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122. 3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood, a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus (daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11, page 282A. You had this, I think. 4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California, died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas, Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: County, California. He was 60 years old. I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research. Cheryl >From: Erick G Olofsson >Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us >Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup. >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) > > >Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his >child Marile Peterson as shown below: > >OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark > >Married Lottie Hall born April1868 > >Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal. > >Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child: > >Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street, >North Bend, Oregon > >Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find >them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living. > >Thank you. > >Erick Olofsson > > > _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots --0-854226028-1105141294=:55380 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi again cheryl,
I just wanted to thank you again for all the information it was great, I have been spending months looking for this.
Thankyou
Erick

Cheryl Fitzsimons <fitzcf at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Eric,

I spent a few hours at my local FHL looking for your people but didn?t find
much more than you did. Here is what I have:

Murile Peterson
If you go to the Skagit Valley Herald newspaper website and search in the
archives you will find the obituary for Mattie Smith Gasner that appeared on
March 5, 2004. It has a reference that Mattie ?is survived by one daughter,
Gloria Smith Gould Peterson and spouse Murile Peterson of Coos Bay, OR.? So
it seems that your Murile is a male and he and his wife were living in the
Coos Bay area in the spring of 2004.

Olaf Peterson, Sr.
You already had the 1910 and 1920 census information. I could not find him
in the 1900 census records.

Olaf Peterson, Jr.
1930 census ? Olaf Peterson, guest, 29 years old, single, born in
California, parents born in Sweden, a stevedore at the docks, living at the
Hotel Thomas. San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 10, page
190B.

Is this Ruth Peterson?
Ruth Peterson, 16 years old, born in California, father born in Denmark,
mother born in United States. She lived at the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum
in San Francisco, San Francisco County, California, ED 39, page 272A. Could
this be the convent remembered in your family stories?

From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Ruth Lillian Horn, SSN
571-26-6693, born 8 July 1917 in California, died 31 May 1986 in Fresno
County, California, mother?s maiden name was Peterson, father?s surname was
Beasley.

From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Olaf L. Peterson died 1
February 1967 in Fresno County, California, born on 12 April 1899 in Oregon,
mother?s maiden name was Hill, Social Security Number was 567-01-0054.

From the California Death Index, 1940-1997: Chester Howard Holdsclaw, SSN
551-16-2972, born 25 November 1918 in California, died 30 March 1988 in
Fresno County, California, mother?s maiden name was Murphy.
From the Oakhill Cemetery Inscriptions: Chester H. Holdsclaw died 30 March
1988. The funeral home was Sierra Chapel. He is buried in the Oakhill
Cemetery in Oakhurst, California in block 7 - row 6 - plot 4. His next of
kin was Ruth Holdsclaw.

The Murphy line:
1. 1900 census ? Thomas Murphy (head) and Mary (mother), Nancy (daughter),
Emel (son), Caroline (daughter), Clara (daughter), Thurman (son) and George
(son). Township 2, Fresno County, California, ED 2, page 242A. Nancy,
Emel, Caroline, Clara and Thurman have an O for marital status. Not sure
what that means ? other, orphan?
2. 1910 census ? Thurman Murphy, boarder, 21 years old, born in California,
father born in United States, mother born in California, a chute tender at a
logging camp. Seven Forest, Maricopa County, California, ED 92, page 122.
3. 1930 census ? Thurman Murphy, head, widowed, 48 years old, mixed blood,
a woodsman in the forest industry, veteran of WWI. Thurman (son) and Venus
(daughter) live with him. Township 4, Madera County, California, ED 11,
page 282A. You had this, I think.
4. Thurman H. Murphy, SSN 556-09-8832, born 20 December 1889 in California,
died 23 January 1969 in Sacramento County, California (from the California
Death Index, 1940-1997). The SSDI lists his last residence in San Andreas,
Calaveras County, California which does not mean he died there.

From www.vitalsearch-ca.com: Alonzo Holdsclaw died 9 April 1932 in Fresno
County, California. He was 60 years old.

I hope there is something in all of this that helps you in your research.

Cheryl


>From: Erick G Olofsson
>Reply-To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
>To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
>Subject: [or-roots] Help Please with lookup.
>Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:42:06 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>Looking for grandfather Olof Peterson and his son Olaf Peterson and his
>child Marile Peterson as shown below:
>
>OLOF PETERSON born 1855 Denmark
>
>Married Lottie Hall born April1868
>
>Olaf Petersen, Jr., born 1899 son who died 1967 in Friant, Cal.
>
>Olaf Petersen, Jr. had a child:
>
>Marile (sp?) Petersen, who lived at last known address 3880 Liberty Street,
>North Bend, Oregon
>
>Would anyone be willing to look up census and or any othjer means to find
>them and Marile(?)Peterson. Who may have children or is still living.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Erick Olofsson
>
>
>


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Bonjour,

 

I hesitate to barge in on you all, but am encouraged by the = wealth of info that some of you have access to and are = so generously willing to share with others seeking connections with = Oregon kin.

 

I have been trying for several years to sort out and connect, if possible, the two or three branches of the BLANCHARD families who were = in Oregon , specifically in the 1840's through the 1890's.

 

From Stephenie Flora's fantastic web page on the = Oregon Trail and from my own research, I find that there were at = least two BLANCHARD groups on the Oregon Trail in 1851. = The following folks are documented to have been on the Trail that year, but = I don't know how they are connected, if they are, indeed, related. 

 

1851: JOSHUA & REBECCA; SAMUEL; LUCENDA = (Mrs.); ROBERT J.

 

I also find that in 1847 HYPOLITE BLANCHARD made the = trek. 

 

Thanks in advance for any offers to help, and I offer my own = research on the 1851 migration to those who have connections to that particular = year.

 

Your Humble Servant, &c., =

 

Albert

 

 

Albert Edward = Belanger

128 Middle = Road

Brentwood, NH 03833

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5006D.4C281E20-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: own research, I find that there were at least two BLANCHARD groups on the Oregon Trail in 1851. The following folks are documented to have been on the Trail that year, but I don't know how they are connected, if they are, indeed, related. 1851: JOSHUA & REBECCA; SAMUEL; LUCENDA (Mrs.); ROBERT J. I also find that in 1847 HYPOLITE BLANCHARD made the trek. Thanks in advance for any offers to help, and I offer my own research on the 1851 migration to those who have connections to that particular year. Your Humble Servant, &c., Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: own research, I find that there were at least two BLANCHARD groups on the Oregon Trail in 1851. The following folks are documented to have been on the Trail that year, but I don't know how they are connected, if they are, indeed, related. 1851: JOSHUA & REBECCA; SAMUEL; LUCENDA (Mrs.); ROBERT J. I also find that in 1847 HYPOLITE BLANCHARD made the trek. Thanks in advance for any offers to help, and I offer my own research on the 1851 migration to those who have connections to that particular year. Your Humble Servant, &c., Albert Albert Edward Belanger 128 Middle Road Brentwood, NH 03833 Researching the 1851 Oregon Trail Migration --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.839 / Virus Database: 571 - Release Date: 1/19/05 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Walling, 1884, Portland, Oregon and The Centennial History of Oregon 1811-1912, Volume II published by The S. J. Clarke Publishing Company, Chicago, 1912. And if you ancestor had some prominence he should be there, but the history is good too. * * * * * * * * * * * Oregon trail stuff I don;t remember seeing before; http://theodore.l.durgan.home.att.net/1844.htm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/05 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: American Indian Movement support group and several other NA people * will * tell you that this word should not be used, several places on = websites and book writers have been ask to revise the use of the word = because it is a fact NA people frown on this word and it means as = previously suggested. I can bring lots of proof on this because I run over 30 NA groups. I also took it to mean as Walt said until I was shown by some elders. Dan M Genealogy Community surnames and NA connections www.wvi.com/~wb ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DAVIESW739 at aol.com=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] mega info In a message dated 2/10/2005 2:25:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, = CKlooster at aol.com writes: Please. Such terms applied to Native American people are extremely = disrespectful. It hurts me even to read the words. The term "Squaw" is = itself derived from an obscenity. These are people that you are = presumably speaking of; father, mother, and child. They had = names...lineages...ancestors and (probably) descendants. Carla =20 Sorry but you are either miss informed or just a PC person who doesn't = care about where a word came from just that its not your liking so we = should all not use it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- "It is as certain as any historical fact can be that the word squaw = that the English settlers in Massachusetts used for 'Indian woman' in = the early 1600s was adopted by them from the word squa that their = Massachusett-speaking neighbors used in their own language to mean = 'female, younger woman,' = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------- OK now jump all over me for putting the truth back in the English = language. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460=20 ------=_NextPart_001_004D_01C50F96.43109B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From the Native American aspect from several Native groups = including=20 American Indian Movement support group and several other NA people
  * will * tell you that this word should not be used, several = places=20 on websites and book writers have been ask to revise the use of the word = because=20 it is a fact NA people frown on this word and it means as previously=20 suggested.
   I can bring lots of proof on this because I run over = 30 NA=20 groups.
I also took it to mean as Walt said until I was shown by some = elders.
Dan M
Genealogy Community
surnames and NA connections
www.wvi.com/~wb
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DAVIESW739 at aol.com
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Thursday, February 10, = 2005 4:21=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] mega = info

In a message dated 2/10/2005 2:25:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, = CKlooster at aol.com writes:
Please.  Such terms applied to Native American people = are=20 extremely disrespectful.  It hurts me even to read the = words.  The term "Squaw" is itself derived from an = obscenity. =20 These are people that you are presumably speaking of; father, = mother, and=20 child.  They had names...lineages...ancestors and (probably)=20 descendants.
 
Carla 
Sorry but you are either miss informed or just a PC person = who=20 doesn't care about where a word came from just that its not your = liking so we=20 should all not use it. =
----------------------------------------------------------------
"It is as certain as any historical fact can be that the word=20 squaw that the English settlers in Massachusetts used for = 'Indian=20 woman' in the early 1600s was adopted by them from the word = squa that=20 their Massachusett-speaking neighbors used in their own language to = mean=20 'female, younger woman,'
=
--------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------
 
OK now jump all over me for putting the truth back in the English = language.
 
Walt=20 Davies
Cooper Hollow Farm
Monmouth, OR 97361
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I can bring lots of proof on this because I run over 30 NA groups. I also took it to mean as Walt said until I was shown by some elders. Dan M Genealogy Community surnames and NA connections www.wvi.com/~wb ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVIESW739 at aol.com To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] mega info In a message dated 2/10/2005 2:25:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, CKlooster at aol.com writes: Please. Such terms applied to Native American people are extremely disrespectful. It hurts me even to read the words. The term "Squaw" is itself derived from an obscenity. These are people that you are presumably speaking of; father, mother, and child. They had names...lineages...ancestors and (probably) descendants. Carla Sorry but you are either miss informed or just a PC person who doesn't care about where a word came from just that its not your liking so we should all not use it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- "It is as certain as any historical fact can be that the word squaw that the English settlers in Massachusetts used for 'Indian woman' in the early 1600s was adopted by them from the word squa that their Massachusett-speaking neighbors used in their own language to mean 'female, younger woman,' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- OK now jump all over me for putting the truth back in the English language. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/05 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: been connected with the Albertina Kerr organization. http://www.sos.state.or.us/pipermail/or-roots/2004-February/003652.html Good Luck! Trish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Martha Schallhorn=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: [or-roots] baby louise home portland Attention: Anyone who could give us information on the baby louise = home in Portland or the Albertina Kerr organization from the 1959-1960 = period. We are seeking records from that time and were told the Kerr = (?) building and records were destroyed in a fire. =20 Please...anyone, we need help. Martha Schallhorn 2590 Council Cuprum Road Council, Idaho 83612 ------=_NextPart_000_06CD_01C51C28.E32B4320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Have you checked out their web site?  There is = contact=20 information listed and some history.
 
http://www.albertinakerr.org/<= /FONT>
 
info at albertinakerr.org =
 
 
From the OR-roots archive it looks like the Baby = Louise home=20 may have been connected with the Albertina Kerr = organization.
http://www.sos.state.or.us/pipermail/or-roots/2004-February/00365= 2.html
 
 
Good Luck!
Trish
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Martha=20 Schallhorn
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, = 2005 1:18=20 PM
Subject: [or-roots] baby louise = home=20 portland

  Attention: =20 Anyone who could give us information on the baby louise home in = Portland or=20 the Albertina Kerr organization from the 1959-1960 period.  We = are=20 seeking records from that time and were told the Kerr (?) building and = records=20 were destroyed in a fire. 
 
Please...anyone, = we need=20 help.
 
Martha=20 Schallhorn
2590 Council = Cuprum=20 Road
Council, Idaho=20 83612

------=_NextPart_000_06CD_01C51C28.E32B4320-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://swcenter.fortlewis.edu/inventory/NARAMflm.htm M234 Office of Indian Affairs (Central Office) letters received, 1824-1881. "This series contains incoming correspondence from all sources concerning Indian lands, emigration, treaty negotiations, subsistence, annuity payments, conflicts, depredations, claims, traders and licenses, population, education, progress in agriculture, health, employees, buildings, supplies, accounts, other administrative matters, and many other subjects relating to Indians and to the operations of the bureau. The letters are arranged alphabetically by name of field jurisdiction (superintendency or agency) or other subject heading, thereunder by year, and thereunder in registry order (alphabetically by initial letter of surname or other designation of writer and thereunder chronologically by date of receipt). Letters relating to an agency for all or part of its existence may be filed under the agency's own name or under the name of the superintendency to which it was or had been responsible. The registers for these records have been filmed as microfilm publication M18." Roll Subject and inclusive dates Oregon Superintendency, 1842-80: 607 1842-52 608 1853-55 609 1856 610 1857 611 1858-59 612 1860-61 613 1862-63 614 1864-65 615 l866-69 616 1870-71 617 1872 (A919)-1873 (H1144) 618 1873 (I366-W1663) 619 1874 (A9-M1107) 620 1874 (M1121)-1875 (C1520) 621 1875 (D9-W1725) 622 1876 (A47-P108) 623 1876 (P112)-1877 (K260) 624 1877 (K272-W1294) 625 1878 (A32-R97) 626 1878 (R99-W2613) 627 1679 (A57-P700) 628 1879 (P810-W2610) 629 1880 (A220-S21) 630 1880 (S22-W2759) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Blanchet made a pastoral tour of Southern Oregon. The entries extracted from the Oregon City Register for that period bear his signature. HDM Thomas Salden and Emilie Laverdure M 8 Page 40-41-43 On the 18th of September, 1861, having granted dispensation of bans and duly examined the case of the bride, we the undersigned have received the consent of marriage or joined in marriage, according to the rite of the Catholic Church, Thomas Salden, of Douglas County, Oregon, son of William Salden and Mary Pepper of Utica, N.Y., and Emilie Laverdure of Douglas Co., Oregon, in the presence of Leonard Stinger and Marie Glascow, witnesses. F. N. Blanchet, Archbishop Rose Laverdure B 41 Page 40-41-43 On the 18th of September, 1861, we the undersigned have baptized Rose, aged about 7 years, daughter of Emilie Laverdure of Douglas Co., Oregon. Sponsors Alexandre Dumond and Ann Magennis. F.N. Blanchet, Archbishop Margaret Laverdure B 42 Page 40-41-43 On the 18th of September, 1861, we the undersigned have baptized Margaret, aged 5, daughter of Emilie Laverdure, Douglas Co., Oregon. Sponsors A. Dumond and Ann Magennis. F. N. Blanchet, Archbishop Henry Laverdure B 43 Page 40-41-43 On the 18th of September, 1861, we the undersigned have baptized Henry, aged 4 years, son of Emilie Laverdure, Umpqua, Douglas Co., Oregon. Sponsors A. Dumond and Ann Magennis. F. N. Blanchet, Archbishop Martha Salden B 44 Page 40-41-43 On the 18th of September, 1861, we the undersigned have baptized Martha, aged about 11 months, daughter of Thomas Salden and Emilie Laverdure of Douglas Co., Oregon. Sponsors A. Dumond and Ann Magennis. F.N. Blanchet, Archbishop Alexandre DUMONT Josephte (Josette Finley, Eleanore Dumont and Emilie Dumont are also listed in this section. Roseburg Part II mentions Elmer Leonard, Joseph (and Alice Brigham), and Xavier LAVADOUR (in the index and Laverdure in an actual baptism.) -------------------------------1115327502 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have Harriet Duncan Munnick's Roseburg/Portland book of transcribed=20 Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest. I've been reading along, n= ot=20 paying much attention, so what I am sending is probably not of any interest=20= or a=20 repeat but I hope it is of some help.
 
I ordered the book years ago because the marriage of my great-gran= d=20 parents, Antoine Valade/Vallard and Hermeline Ouimette is listed.
 
I see that her books are listed on line with some of the family names,=20 but not all. They are super for French Canadian research in Oregon. I= =20 would advise using the actual books for any research. Burials in St. Ma= ry's=20 Cemetery, 1872-1883 are also listed in my book.  Here's the link:
 
 
 
Roseburg and Southern Oregon Missions
 
Lavadour, Angelique
B 134 Page 33-34
Edward McGinnis
 
On the  29th of July, 1860 we the undersigned priest baptized Edwa= rd,=20 3 years old, born of the lawful marriage of John McGinnis and Angelique=20 Laverdure on the South Umpqua. Sponsors Francois Desnoyers and Martine=20 Lessart.  A. Z. Poulin, priest
 
Mary H. McGinnis
B 140 Page 33-34
 
On the 29th of July, 1860, we the undersigned priest baptized Marie Hel= ene=20 5 years old, born of the lawful marriage of John McGinnis and Angelique=20 Laverdure. Sponsors Bazile Courville and Florence Gagnon.  A.Z. Poulin,= =20 priest
 
Paul Laverdure
B 141 Page 33-34
 
On the 29th of July, 1860, we the undersigned priest baptized Paul, 3 y= ears=20 old, born of the lawful marriage of Joseph Laverdure and Lisett Walla-Walla.= =20 Sponsors Joseph Rivard and Marie Ann Klakatat.  A.Z. Poulin, priest
 
Elizabeth Laverdure
B 142 Page 33-34
 
On the 29th of July, 1860, we the undersigned priest baptized Elizabeth= , 5=20 years old, child of Joseph Laverdure and Lizette Walla-Walla. Sponsors Franc= ois=20 Desnoyers and Marie Finley.
A.Z. Poulin, priest
 
Joseph Laverdure
B 143 Page 33-34
 
On the 29th of July, 1860, we the undersigned priest baptized Joseph, 8= =20 years old, child of Joseph Laverdure and Lisette Walla-Walla. Sponsors Alexa= ndre=20 Dumond and Martine Lessart. A. Z. Poulin, priest
 
Note from Harriet Duncan Munnick:
From the 16th of September until the 1st of November, 1861, Archbis= hop=20 F.N. Blanchet made a pastoral tour of Southern Oregon. The entries extracted= =20 from the Oregon City Register for that period bear his signature. HDM
 
Thomas Salden and Emilie Laverdure
M 8 Page 40-41-43
 
On the 18th of September, 1861, having granted dispensation of bans and= =20 duly examined the case of the bride, we the undersigned have received the=20 consent of marriage or joined in marriage, according to the rite of the Cath= olic=20 Church, Thomas Salden, of Douglas County, Oregon, son of William Salden and=20= Mary=20 Pepper of Utica, N.Y., and Emilie Laverdure of Douglas Co., Oregon, in the=20 presence of Leonard Stinger and Marie Glascow, witnesses.
F. N. Blanchet, Archbishop
 
Rose Laverdure
B 41 Page 40-41-43
 
On the 18th of September, 1861,  we the undersigned have baptized=20 Rose, aged about 7 years, daughter of Emilie Laverdure of Douglas Co., Orego= n.=20 Sponsors Alexandre Dumond and Ann Magennis.  F.N. Blanchet,=20 Archbishop
 
Margaret Laverdure
B 42 Page 40-41-43
 
On the 18th of September, 1861, we the undersigned have baptized Margar= et,=20 aged 5, daughter of Emilie Laverdure, Douglas Co., Oregon. Sponsors A. Dumon= d=20 and Ann Magennis.
F. N. Blanchet, Archbishop
 
Henry Laverdure
B 43 Page 40-41-43
 
On the 18th of September, 1861, we the undersigned have baptized Henry,= =20 aged 4 years, son of Emilie Laverdure, Umpqua, Douglas Co., Oregon. Sponsors= A.=20 Dumond and Ann Magennis.  F. N. Blanchet, Archbishop
 
Martha Salden
B 44 Page 40-41-43
 
On the 18th of September, 1861, we the undersigned have baptized Martha= ,=20 aged about 11 months, daughter of Thomas Salden and Emilie Laverdure of Doug= las=20 Co., Oregon. Sponsors A. Dumond and Ann Magennis. F.N. Blanchet,=20 Archbishop
 
Alexandre DUMONT Josephte (Josette Finley, Eleanore Dum= ont=20 and Emilie Dumont are also listed in this section.
 
Roseburg Part II mentions Elmer Leonard, Joseph (and Alice=20 Brigham), and Xavier LAVADOUR (in the index and Laverdure in an=20 actual baptism.) 
 
 
 
 -------------------------------1115327502-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Ely (sometimes called Elyville) is in Clackamas county, on the Cascade = Highway, in the extreme south part of Oregon City. Also called Mountain = View, probably because it is near Mountain View Cemetery, or vice-versa. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Felicia210 at aol.com=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Elyville, Oregon Does anyone in this e-mail group know where Elyville, Oregon is or = was?=20 My GGGrandparents lived near there. Sandra Mahar ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C551BE.DF9F91E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From Oregon Geographic=20 Names:
Ely (sometimes called = Elyville) is in=20 Clackamas county, on the Cascade Highway, in the extreme south part of = Oregon=20 City.  Also called Mountain View, probably because it is near = Mountain View=20 Cemetery, or vice-versa.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Felicia210 at aol.com
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 = 9:54=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Elyville,=20 Oregon

Does anyone in this e-mail group know where Elyville, Oregon is = or was?=20
My GGGrandparents lived near there.
 
Sandra Mahar
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C551BE.DF9F91E0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ----------------------------------------- I remained a bit in the background and tried very hard to concentrate upon the fact that if one were a lady, one stood very straight with toes turned slightly out and never under any circumstances did a lady stare at strangers without first remembering to close her mouth. Mother had been to a finishing school and she tried to "finish me" after the same pattern. She almost did, but not in the way that she intended. She tried very hard to teach me to curtsey (Kirchy, I called it). I could not see a bit of use in it, but really wanted to please Mother. If she wanted me to crook my legs when elder people spoke to me, very well, I would try to do it. But something seemed to be the matter, maybe something was wrong with my legs. They just simply would not bend in the right place. I can see now that the defect was temperamental. I must have exasperated Mother to the limit of her endurance. She boxed my ears frequently and sometimes even oftener than that. In justice Mother, I will admit that I probably needed it. I was very dumb and without the power of expressing myself, and the many injunctions to be remembered by a real lady, just would not stay with me. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460 --30.7239fb14_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From Aunt Charlotte's book.
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I remained a bit in the background and tried very hard to concentrate u= pon=20 the fact that if one were a lady, one stood very straight with toes turned=20 slightly  out and never under any circumstances did a lady stare at=20 strangers without first remembering to  close her mouth. 
 
  Mother had been to a finishing school and she tried to "fin= ish=20 me" after  the same pattern. She almost did, but not in the way that sh= e=20 intended.
 
  She tried very hard to teach me to curtsey (Kirchy, I calle= d=20 it). I could not see a bit of use  in it, but really wanted to please=20 Mother. If she wanted me to crook my legs when elder people  spoke to m= e,=20 very well, I would try to do it. But something seemed to be the matter,=20 maybe  something was wrong with my legs. They just simply would not ben= d in=20 the right place. I can see  now that the defect was temperamental. I mu= st=20 have exasperated Mother to the limit of her  endurance. She boxed my ea= rs=20 frequently and sometimes even oftener than that. In justice  Mother, I=20= will=20 admit that I probably needed it. I was very dumb and without the power of&nb= sp;=20 expressing myself, and the many injunctions to be remembered by a real lady,= =20 just would not stay with me.
 
Walt=20 Davies
Cooper Hollow Farm
Monmouth, OR 97361
503 623-0460
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Smith in Lane Co. Oregon in 1908. I found where she died March 27, 1970 being 81 years of age. I believe they (Hardy and nellie) were divorced and Hardy married this Dorothy in his later years. This is conjucture on my part though. I've worked on this Wright family for over 25 years and this is the last member I need to find. Thanks so much for replying. If you have any lead I'd truly appreciate. Hoping to hear from you once again. Thanks again so much!!!! Dave :>) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: California, to her sister, Nellie (Palmer) Dunford in Medford, Oregon, dated Jan 8, 1935. The letter starts off about son Hal going to Sacramento with the Guard = to play at the inauguration of the new governor, goes on to thank Nellie and Ike (Oscar W. Dunford) for = sending a cured ham, and talks about where various members of the family are at the time, and how "guilty" = she was going to feel about them not getting a piece of the ham . . . Then, ". . .that clipping you sent -- concerning the Geo Hodge row is like a = voice from the past -- if I'm not terribly mistaken this man is the lusty youngster of 2 weeks old that I = washed diapers for nearly 42 years ago [1893]. I was not present when he was born, Mrs. Van Orden did that, = but I stayed 2 weeks after she left. They had 6 boys [there?] the [procter?] had charge of the Solado = Post Office, which was in their 4 room house. George Hodge the Papa was building an old fashioned = lumbermill, with a mill wheel in the Big Elk River, he had a man, one Ellsworth Zilliard helping him. I cooked = for the whole gang & did the washing. I was 17 years old or nearly that - it was in Feb. I'll bet = the Row was over hunting grounds for deer. the Hodges were all great hunters. Well, I hope nothing serious = comes of it. Some time I would like to see that country again, if they ever get roads. . . . " Now, I checked the census for 1900, and it appears that Nettie was a = couple of years off. According to that, George, jr., was born Dec of 1887. Nettie was born in 1879, which = would have made her only about 8 years old.=20 James A - - May 1885 George A - - Dec 1887 William C - - April 1890 Charles M, - - May 1892 Walter - - May 1893 Patsy (Patrick) - - Jan 1895 Giles - - May 1899 So, it looks as though Patsy is probably the child mentioned, if indeed = it was in February that Nettie was washing and cooking, or Walter, if she got the month wrong as well. But, regardless, what about George A. and the "row" What was that all = about, anyway? Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your = self) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: California, to her sister, Nellie (Palmer) Dunford in Medford, Oregon, dated Jan 8, 1935. The letter starts off about son Hal going to Sacramento with the Guard = to play at the inauguration of the new governor, goes on to thank Nellie and Ike (Oscar W. Dunford) for = sending a cured ham, and talks about where various members of the family are at the time, and how "guilty" = she was going to feel about them not getting a piece of the ham . . . Then, ". . .that clipping you sent -- concerning the Geo Hodge row is like a = voice from the past -- if I'm not terribly mistaken this man is the lusty youngster of 2 weeks old that I = washed diapers for nearly 42 years ago [1893]. I was not present when he was born, Mrs. Van Orden did that, = but I stayed 2 weeks after she left. They had 6 boys [there?] the [procter?] had charge of the Solado = Post Office, which was in their 4 room house. George Hodge the Papa was building an old fashioned = lumbermill, with a mill wheel in the Big Elk River, he had a man, one Ellsworth Zilliard helping him. I cooked = for the whole gang & did the washing. I was 17 years old or nearly that - it was in Feb. I'll bet = the Row was over hunting grounds for deer. the Hodges were all great hunters. Well, I hope nothing serious = comes of it. Some time I would like to see that country again, if they ever get roads. . . . " Now, I checked the census for 1900, and it appears that Nettie was a = couple of years off. According to that, George, jr., was born Dec of 1887. Nettie was born in 1879, which = would have made her only about 8 years old.=20 James A - - May 1885 George A - - Dec 1887 William C - - April 1890 Charles M, - - May 1892 Walter - - May 1893 Patsy (Patrick) - - Jan 1895 Giles - - May 1899 So, it looks as though Patsy is probably the child mentioned, if indeed = it was in February that Nettie was washing and cooking, or Walter, if she got the month wrong as well. But, regardless, what about George A. and the "row" What was that all = about, anyway? Regards, Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your = self) From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: identity of this king was kept secret, and he wore a huge beard to disguise himself until his identity was revealed at the festival's annual ball. In 1914, a Rose Festival Queen, selected from among Portland's socialites, was again chosen to rule. This practice continued until 1930. From 1924 to 1929, Rex Oregonus returned to rule along with the Queen of the mythical realm of Rosaria. Nancy -------Original Message------- From: EugeneMelvin.roots at comcast.net Date: 09/23/05 00:40:40 To: Oregon Roots Subject: [or-roots] Rosaria, Oregon I was doing some research and came across the name of a city in Multnomah county that I have never heard of. The name is Rosaria. Does any one know where this city was located? Eugene ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C5C062.384967F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The = 1930 US=20 Census for Multnomah County, Rosaria Election Precinct is 18 pages=20 long.
 
Page one starts=20 at E 85th and E 86th Street with a side street that looks like "Bassett = St" but=20 I could be wrong.  Maybe it's Prescott?  The third page = enumerates the=20 Midget Auto Camp on Sandy Blvd.,  E 82nd and Sandy Blvd. then to = Cully Rd.,=20 Alberta??,  Columbia Blvd, Goes on to 72nd, 74th, 77th,=20 etc.
 
If = you need=20 someone looked up I would be happy to do that.  It has been a while = since I=20 was in that area, but I kind of know where this area = is.
 
Trish
 

From: = or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of E V=20 Barnes
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:53 PM
To:=20 or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Rosaria,=20 Oregon

I had cousin who was queen of the = Rose=20 Festival.  I have not been to once since about 1937, with my aunt,=20 her
mother.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nancy Lee Adams =
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Friday, September 23, = 2005 3:45=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Rosaria,=20 Oregon

Eugene,  =20
Ok Now, don't laugh=20 because I can not find a real town of Rosaria, = Multnomah Co.=20 OR.? I have been = researching most=20 of today : )
Could it maybe have some thing = to do with=20 the Rose Festival Queen, King & the mythical realm of = Rosaria?=20
We need help with this = one...  =20
 
Portland's Rose Gardens and Rose Garden = Store |=20 Rose Festival History=20
This page talks about the = history=20 of the Portland Rose Festival. ... It is the most = popular=20 family event in Oregon and the largest parade in = the=20 Pacific = ...
From 1908 to 1913 a king, Rex Oregonus, = ruled over the=20 festival. The identity of this king was kept secret, and he wore = a huge=20 beard to disguise himself until his identity was revealed at the = festival’s annual ball. In 1914, a Rose Festival Queen, = selected from=20 among Portland’s socialites, was again chosen to rule. = This practice=20 continued until 1930. From 1924 to 1929, Rex Oregonus returned = to rule=20 along with the Queen of the mythical realm of Rosaria. =
 
Nancy
-------Original Message-------
 
From: EugeneMelvin.roots at comcast= .net
Date: = 09/23/05=20 00:40:40
To: Oregon = Roots
Subject: = [or-roots]=20 Rosaria, Oregon
 
I was doing some research and came across the name of a = city in=20 Multnomah county that I have never heard of.  The name is=20 Rosaria.  Does any one know where this city was = located?
 
Eugene 
 
3D""=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C5C062.384967F0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Nancy -------Original Message------- From: EugeneMelvin.roots at comcast.net Date: 09/23/05 00:40:40 To: Oregon Roots Subject: [or-roots] Rosaria, Oregon I was doing some research and came across the name of a city in Multnomah county that I have never heard of. The name is Rosaria. Does any one know where this city was located? Eugene --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24138_1127529066_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24138_1127529066_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_24138_1127529066_1 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
There is no Rosaria listed in ":Oregon geographic Names"--Sorry
 
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Bob Goodman
USAF Retired
University Place, Washington
 
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Eugene,  
Ok Now, don't laugh because I can not find a real town of Rosaria, Multnomah Co. OR.? I have been researching most of today : )
Could it maybe have some thing to do with the Rose Festival Queen, King & the mythical realm of Rosaria?
We need help with this one...  
 
Portland's Rose Gardens and Rose Garden Store | Rose Festival History
This page talks about the history of the Portland Rose Festival. ... It is the most popular family event in Oregon and the largest parade in the Pacific ...
From 1908 to 1913 a king, Rex Oregonus, ruled over the festival. The identity of this king was kept secret, and he wore a huge beard to disguise himself until his identity was revealed at the festival?s annual ball. In 1914, a Rose Festival Queen, selected from among Portland?s socialites, was again chosen to rule. This practice continued until 1930. From 1924 to 1929, Rex Oregonus returned to rule along with the Queen of the mythical realm of Rosaria.
 
Nancy
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 09/23/05 00:40:40
Subject: [or-roots] Rosaria, Oregon
 
I was doing some research and came across the name of a city in Multnomah county that I have never heard of.  The name is Rosaria.  Does any one know where this city was located?
 
Eugene 
 
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The rules are Head of household, spouse, oldest child of the head of the household by age through youngest child of head of household, other relatives, non-related persons. Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] A Query Good point it says Thomas Flynn as father. -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Barbara Wulf Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:19 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] A Query What does her birth certificate say?? Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" To: Cc: "Terry Davidson" Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] A Query This information sends shivers down my spine. It certainly narrows down the time for Verna Marie's death and also for my grandmother's divorce. If she was still married to Noah Hardwick on June 5, 1917 and I found her living in Portland with Noah's brother Jesse in 1918 and then my mother is born Feb. 1919. Somehow she divorced Noah and married Thomas Flynn by the census of 1920. Maybe my mom's dad wasn't who she thought he was, this is very strange and a little scary. Dale The draft registration: Noah Hardwick age 22 No 1 Prescott Washington June 11, 1894 natural born Chehalias Washington Farm Labor W R Alaxandra Prescott Washington Wife and child married caucasion no military experience signed Noah Hardwick medium height medium build brown eyes dark brown hair not bald C M Berryman registrar Hadley precinct Walla Walla County Washington 5 june 1917 Tracy Cal permit to enlist 12/25/17 Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] A Query I looked at the 1910 Census again. Noah was 15 at the time living in Branham, Whitman County Wa. With his father TJ (I assume Thomas) and mother AM (I have seen this as Amanda but don't know for sure). His brother Jesse was living with an uncle if I remember correctly. There was no middle initial for him in the 1910 Census. Dale -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:28 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] A Query There's a little confusion about Noah Hardwick's middle iitial. Here are things I found on Ancestry.com Noah Hardwick married Venus Howell, daughter of Thomas Howell and Lillie Mae Hoskins. Children: Verna Maried (?) Hardwick. No dates or anything. Information submitted by B. King Kingb247 at aol.com This submission shows Venus was married second to Selden Flynn and their first child was Clifford Flynn?? plus 3 daughters. Also incidates she was married third to J. Ernest Chedar and they had 1 daughter, Ruth Chedar. Assume this B. King might be a good resource to at least check with. 1920 Stockton, San Joaquin County, California Census Thomas J. Hardwick Head Widowed Noah H. Hardwick Son b. about 1895 in Washington Divorced 1930 Portland, Multnomah, Oregon census Hardwick, Noah F. born about 1895 Hardwick, Edith wife born about 1895 Hardwick, Warren son born about 1925 Hardwick, Maxine daughter born about 1928 According to Oregon Death Index, Edith died 20 Oct 1931 in Marion County, Oregon, Certificate #756, spouse: Noah. Oregon Death Index Name: Noah F. Hardwick County: Multnomah Date: 1 June 1963 Certificate: 8860 Age: 68 Spouse: Bessie Oregon Death Index Name: Bessie Mar (Marie??) Hardwick County: Multnomah Death Date: Sep 13, 1986 Certificate: 86-16109 Birth Date: 3 April 1893 Spouse: Noah Social Security Death Index Noah Hardwick 540-07-8411 born 11 June 1894 died June 1963 Last Residence: Oregon ------------------------- Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 Record about Amanda M. Hardwick Name: Hardwick, Amanda M. County: Linn Death Date: 13 Sep 1915 Certificate: 5156 1910 census lists Noah's mother as A. M. Hardwick, don't know if this might be her. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------- Assume this may be your Noah's brother since the 1910 census listed him as J. J. Oregon Death Index Name: Jesse J. Hardwick County: Wasco Date: 29 Dec 1951 Certificate: 4893 ________________________________________________________________ Just a comment in response to your comment. I think this group is very good at checking on genealogy and being willing to help others. However, if there are no queries, I think sharing memories of earlier times in Oregon is very good in helping to fill in the blanks about what your ancestors might have done in earlier time periods. Good luck! Sue _____________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [or-roots] A Query I have only been on the list a few days and I think I know why some people are dropping. Maybe they are new like me and haven't seen anything yet related to genealogy. I will try to do a query and I hope someone out there can help me. I am trying to find a death record for a child named Verna Marie Hardwick. I think she died sometime between 1915 and 1919. She was the child of Noah Hardwick and Versey Venus Howell. She was born Sept. 11, 1914 in Oregon, but I don't know where. I also would like to have an actual record of her birth as this date was given to me by a volunteer at the Blue Mountain Genealogical Society and she didn't tell me where she got it. This child is a total mystery in my family. The legend was that she was drowned in the Columbia river by her father who had gone berserk. I don't think I believe this story because I have found Noah Hardwick in the 1920 census or maybe it was the 1930 living with a new wife and 2 children. He had a brother named Jesse that seems to have dropped off the planet about 1919. I found him living (Jesse, that is) in Portland in the City Directory of 1918. He was living with his brother's wife at the time. Does anyone have access to early obituaries in Portland? I know this is more than one query, sorry. I am just very frustrated over this as I really want to know the truth. Dale in California _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: work correctly, Catheryn is the daughter of Thomas Flynn and Clifford is the son of his wife. The rules are Head of household, spouse, oldest child of the head of the household by age through youngest child of head of household, other relatives, non-related persons. Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Harguess, Dale" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] A Query Good point it says Thomas Flynn as father. -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Barbara Wulf Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:19 AM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] A Query What does her birth certificate say?? Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Harguess, Dale" To: Cc: "Terry Davidson" Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] A Query This information sends shivers down my spine. It certainly narrows down the time for Verna Marie's death and also for my grandmother's divorce. If she was still married to Noah Hardwick on June 5, 1917 and I found her living in Portland with Noah's brother Jesse in 1918 and then my mother is born Feb. 1919. Somehow she divorced Noah and married Thomas Flynn by the census of 1920. Maybe my mom's dad wasn't who she thought he was, this is very strange and a little scary. Dale The draft registration: Noah Hardwick age 22 No 1 Prescott Washington June 11, 1894 natural born Chehalias Washington Farm Labor W R Alaxandra Prescott Washington Wife and child married caucasion no military experience signed Noah Hardwick medium height medium build brown eyes dark brown hair not bald C M Berryman registrar Hadley precinct Walla Walla County Washington 5 june 1917 Tracy Cal permit to enlist 12/25/17 Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Harguess, Dale" To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [or-roots] A Query I looked at the 1910 Census again. Noah was 15 at the time living in Branham, Whitman County Wa. With his father TJ (I assume Thomas) and mother AM (I have seen this as Amanda but don't know for sure). His brother Jesse was living with an uncle if I remember correctly. There was no middle initial for him in the 1910 Census. Dale -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:28 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] A Query There's a little confusion about Noah Hardwick's middle iitial. Here are things I found on Ancestry.com Noah Hardwick married Venus Howell, daughter of Thomas Howell and Lillie Mae Hoskins. Children: Verna Maried (?) Hardwick. No dates or anything. Information submitted by B. King Kingb247 at aol.com This submission shows Venus was married second to Selden Flynn and their first child was Clifford Flynn?? plus 3 daughters. Also incidates she was married third to J. Ernest Chedar and they had 1 daughter, Ruth Chedar. Assume this B. King might be a good resource to at least check with. 1920 Stockton, San Joaquin County, California Census Thomas J. Hardwick Head Widowed Noah H. Hardwick Son b. about 1895 in Washington Divorced 1930 Portland, Multnomah, Oregon census Hardwick, Noah F. born about 1895 Hardwick, Edith wife born about 1895 Hardwick, Warren son born about 1925 Hardwick, Maxine daughter born about 1928 According to Oregon Death Index, Edith died 20 Oct 1931 in Marion County, Oregon, Certificate #756, spouse: Noah. Oregon Death Index Name: Noah F. Hardwick County: Multnomah Date: 1 June 1963 Certificate: 8860 Age: 68 Spouse: Bessie Oregon Death Index Name: Bessie Mar (Marie??) Hardwick County: Multnomah Death Date: Sep 13, 1986 Certificate: 86-16109 Birth Date: 3 April 1893 Spouse: Noah Social Security Death Index Noah Hardwick 540-07-8411 born 11 June 1894 died June 1963 Last Residence: Oregon ------------------------- Oregon Death Index, 1903-98 Record about Amanda M. Hardwick Name: Hardwick, Amanda M. County: Linn Death Date: 13 Sep 1915 Certificate: 5156 1910 census lists Noah's mother as A. M. Hardwick, don't know if this might be her. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------- Assume this may be your Noah's brother since the 1910 census listed him as J. J. Oregon Death Index Name: Jesse J. Hardwick County: Wasco Date: 29 Dec 1951 Certificate: 4893 ________________________________________________________________ Just a comment in response to your comment. I think this group is very good at checking on genealogy and being willing to help others. However, if there are no queries, I think sharing memories of earlier times in Oregon is very good in helping to fill in the blanks about what your ancestors might have done in earlier time periods. Good luck! Sue _____________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harguess, Dale To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [or-roots] A Query I have only been on the list a few days and I think I know why some people are dropping. Maybe they are new like me and haven't seen anything yet related to genealogy. I will try to do a query and I hope someone out there can help me. I am trying to find a death record for a child named Verna Marie Hardwick. I think she died sometime between 1915 and 1919. She was the child of Noah Hardwick and Versey Venus Howell. She was born Sept. 11, 1914 in Oregon, but I don't know where. I also would like to have an actual record of her birth as this date was given to me by a volunteer at the Blue Mountain Genealogical Society and she didn't tell me where she got it. This child is a total mystery in my family. The legend was that she was drowned in the Columbia river by her father who had gone berserk. I don't think I believe this story because I have found Noah Hardwick in the 1920 census or maybe it was the 1930 living with a new wife and 2 children. He had a brother named Jesse that seems to have dropped off the planet about 1919. I found him living (Jesse, that is) in Portland in the City Directory of 1918. He was living with his brother's wife at the time. Does anyone have access to early obituaries in Portland? I know this is more than one query, sorry. I am just very frustrated over this as I really want to know the truth. Dale in California _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: gift many times and was thankful for the considerate gift of something = needed and then embellished with many other items to please her. Sounds = like she had two sons who loved her very much. Sue ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cecil Houk=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Trash Can Christmas PS: I now have the sewing case that was the top item in the trash can = (mom died in 1997). Cecil in San Diego ----- Original Message -----=20 From: TEDDIE1938 at aol.com=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Trash Can Christmas Great story! ------=_NextPart_000_037A_01C5D714.9135D830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From 1959 to 1997 my guess is that your Mother = thought of this=20 wonderful gift many times and was thankful for the considerate gift of = something=20 needed and then embellished with many other items to please her.  = Sounds=20 like she had two sons who loved her very much.
 
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cecil = Houk
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Saturday, October 22, = 2005 2:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Trash = Can=20 Christmas

PS:  I now have the sewing case that = was the=20 top item in the trash can (mom died in 1997).
 
Cecil in San Diego
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 TEDDIE1938 at aol.com
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Saturday, October 22, = 2005 7:41=20 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Trash = Can=20 Christmas

Great = story!
------=_NextPart_000_037A_01C5D714.9135D830-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Taylor, her father, came to Oregon. He purchased land on the Oregon = side of the Columbia about 1863, which was later known as Taylor's = Landing and still later as Corbett. Folklore says that Corbett received = its name through a game of chance carried on in Portland. A post office = was established at Taylor's landing in 1884, and J. S. Stevens = established a store in 1888. In the year 1884, Mr. Taylor donated an = acre of land for a school which stood on the west end of the present = school site, and was known as Taylor School.. ..=20 Living East of the Sandy Vol 1 by Clarence E Mershon pg 4 [about 1926] ...Mr. Arneson bought Roy Anderson's store, which was just west beyond = the little cottage where Lydia Ostrand lived and adjacent to Claude = Woodle's Hardware.. .. Living East of the Sandy Vol 2 by Clarence E Mershon, has a nice article = on the Taylor family. Though they call him E. F. Taylor. Barb wulf at bendbroadband.com http://home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Ross=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] help needed I have also been looking for a copy of History of East Multnomah = County Pioneers Volume I but have been unable to find it. I am = researching EJ TAYLOR (Ervine Jasper) of Vermont who it is said to have = pioneered Taylor's Landing which later became Corbett. He is buried in = the Corbett Cemetery.=20 I am looking for his family information which was noted to be in the = East Multnomah County book written by his daughter Lydia TAYLOR OSTRAND. = =20 I found Ervine/Irvine and is wife Margaret HAMILTON in the census for = Fisher's Landing in Washington in 1860 the year Lydia was born. They = had a son Zachara and three other children Any information regarding this TAYLOR family would be GREATLY = appreciated!!! Julie ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C5DA07.85A44A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nothing in the table of contents on Taylor = or=20 Ostrand.  However, the History of East Multnomah County Pioneer = Association=20 on page 1:
 
From the records of Mrs. Ostrand, we find = that in=20 the year 1852, E. H. Taylor, her father, came to Oregon.  He = purchased land=20 on the Oregon side of the Columbia about 1863, which was later known as = Taylor's=20 Landing and still later as Corbett.  Folklore says that Corbett = received=20 its name through a game of chance carried on in Portland.  A post = office=20 was established at Taylor's landing in 1884, and J. S. Stevens = established a=20 store in 1888.  In the year 1884, Mr. Taylor donated an acre of = land for a=20 school which stood on the west end of the present school site, and was = known as=20 Taylor School.. ..
 
Living East of the Sandy Vol 1 by Clarence = E=20 Mershon
pg 4 [about 1926]
 
...Mr. Arneson bought Roy Anderson's = store, which=20 was just west beyond the little cottage where Lydia Ostrand lived and = adjacent=20 to Claude Woodle's Hardware.. ..
 
Living East of the Sandy Vol 2 by Clarence = E=20 Mershon, has a nice article on the Taylor family.  Though they call = him E.=20 F. Taylor.
 

Barb
wulf at bendbroadband.com
http:/= /home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 George=20 Ross
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, = 2005 8:03=20 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] help = needed

I have also been = looking for a copy=20 of History of East Multnomah County Pioneers Volume I but = have been=20 unable to find it.  I am researching EJ TAYLOR (Ervine Jasper) of = Vermont=20 who it is said to have pioneered Taylor's Landing which later became=20 Corbett.  He is buried in the Corbett = Cemetery. 
 
I am looking for his = family=20 information which was noted to be in the East Multnomah County book = written by=20 his daughter Lydia TAYLOR OSTRAND.  
 
I found Ervine/Irvine = and is wife=20 Margaret HAMILTON in the census for Fisher's Landing in Washington in = 1860 the=20 year Lydia was born.  They had a son Zachara and three other=20 children
 
Any information = regarding this=20 TAYLOR family would be GREATLY appreciated!!!
 
Julie
------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C5DA07.85A44A10-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: around 1926, is that right? I am researching that family. I believe the Roy Arneson mentioned is = my great uncle and the "Mr. Arneson" may be my great grandfather. I'd = appreciate any help. In the meantime I will try to locate a copy of the = book you referenced at one of our local libraries, doubtful, but worth a = try.=20 Thanks, Nan "Nothing in the table of contents on Taylor or Ostrand. However, the = History of East Multnomah County Pioneer Association on page 1: From the records of Mrs. Ostrand, we find that in the year 1852, E. H. = Taylor, her father, came to Oregon. He purchased land on the Oregon = side of the Columbia about 1863, which was later known as Taylor's = Landing and still later as Corbett. Folklore says that Corbett received = its name through a game of chance carried on in Portland. A post office = was established at Taylor's landing in 1884, and J. S. Stevens = established a store in 1888. In the year 1884, Mr. Taylor donated an = acre of land for a school which stood on the west end of the present = school site, and was known as Taylor School.. ..=20 Living East of the Sandy Vol 1 by Clarence E Mershon pg 4 [about 1926] ...Mr. Arneson bought Roy Anderson's store, which was just west beyond = the little cottage where Lydia Ostrand lived and adjacent to Claude = Woodle's Hardware.. .. Living East of the Sandy Vol 2 by Clarence E Mershon, has a nice = article on the Taylor family. Though they call him E. F. Taylor. Barb" _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list = or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us = http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C5DECE.3C3DCEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pg 178 - 179
Louis Henry Arneson, youngest son of seven = children=20 of Arne and Ingeborge Arneson, was born in Beloit, Wisconsin, July 12, = 1874 . .=20 .
 
Would you like a transcription? =20

Barb
wulf at bendbroadband.com
http:/= /home.bendcable.com/wulf/Project/siteMapNoImage.htm
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nanci=20 Axelton
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, = 2005 9:08=20 AM
Subject: [or-roots] Arneson, = attn:=20 Barb

Hey Barb,
I'm trying to catch up on email, been offline for = awhile, I saw=20 this from you and wondered if you can find any other references to=20 ARNESON. From what this excerpt states, I'm guessing it took = place=20 in Portland around 1926, is that right?
I am researching that family. I believe the Roy = Arneson=20 mentioned is my great uncle and the "Mr. Arneson" may = be my=20 great grandfather. I'd appreciate any help. In the meantime I will try = to=20 locate a copy of the book you referenced at one of our local = libraries,=20 doubtful, but worth a try.
Thanks,
Nan
 
"Nothing in the table of = contents on=20 Taylor or Ostrand.  However, the History of East Multnomah County = Pioneer=20 Association on page 1:
 
From the records of Mrs. = Ostrand, we=20 find that in the year 1852, E. H. Taylor, her father, came to = Oregon.  He=20 purchased land on the Oregon side of the Columbia about 1863, which = was later=20 known as Taylor's Landing and still later as Corbett.  Folklore = says that=20 Corbett received its name through a game of chance carried on in=20 Portland.  A post office was established at Taylor's landing in = 1884, and=20 J. S. Stevens established a store in 1888.  In the year 1884, Mr. = Taylor=20 donated an acre of land for a school which stood on the west end of = the=20 present school site, and was known as Taylor School.. .. =
 
Living East of the Sandy Vol = 1 by=20 Clarence E Mershon
pg 4 [about = 1926]
 
...Mr. Arneson=20 bought Roy Anderson's store, which was just west beyond the little = cottage=20 where Lydia Ostrand lived and adjacent to Claude Woodle's Hardware..=20 ..
 
Living East of the Sandy Vol = 2 by=20 Clarence E Mershon, has a nice article on the Taylor family.  = Though they=20 call him E. F. Taylor.
 

Barb"
____________________________________= ___________=20 or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 = http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C5DECE.3C3DCEC0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: are not very rough nor of any great elevation. After traveling some 50 miles through those mountains, we arrive at the Klamet river, about 10 miles below the Klamet lake--out of which this stream flows. This river is a fine stream, some 150 paces wide, and for about half the year it cannot be forded. We forded it by propping up our wagon beds and in about 10 miles travel we came to the Klamet lakes. Here are truly, some of the great wonders of the Western world, presented in the form of these mighty lakes. These lakes--as also mount Chaste, which stands near them--are situated upon a very elevated country, probably the most elevated section of country west of the Rocky mountains, for several hundred miles north and south. Many of the great rivers of the west have their source from these lakes, or their immediate vicinity. Here is the find Klamet river which flows immediately from the lake's side, besides several others of considerable note that have their sources in this vicinity. Say, the great Sacramento, Deshute, John Day, Rotue river, the Umpquas, and the McKenzie's fork of the Willamette. All these great streams take their rise in and near those great lakes. . . . Those lakes, and the mounds and ridges that divide them, cover a large tract of country. Many of those lakes, by wash and other causes, are fast filling in. A few of them have already filled up, and formed rich little valleys. From this place we made our course to the Sacramento valley. The road is circuitous and in many place very rough. We finally descended into the Sacramento valley; and after chasing around for a time, we made our way to the Redding's diggings, for health, the most northerly mines in California. Here we commenced mining with fair success; but had not been long in this fair business, before we witnessed the awful spectacle of a very sick camp. The sickness increased, and many deaths took place; and the people, as soon as they were able to travel, set out for Oregon. My company recovered in part, and we left the mines on the 24th of July. California is truly one of the sickliest, poorest in soil, and hottest countries your unworthy writer ever visited. I hope this will be warning enough to my friends about California. Respectfully yours, Benjamin Cleaver. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribers with access to the Historical Newspapers Collection can view this clipping This was in today's newletter from Ancestry.com and thought it was interesting! Enjoy Susie From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: by Charlotte Matheny Kirkwood=20 used by permission Somewhere near the crossing of the North Platte, we camped at a = place called Soap Springs. It as a boggy place. Old Mr. Mills stepped = into a sink hole and, as he said: "went in up to his hat band." Niniva = Ford's big black ox blundered into one during the night. In the morning = he was found and pulled out before Niniva was up. He was covered, all = but his head, with the thick blue mud. Niniva made a great fuss when he = could not find his big black ox.=20 Everyone else "hook up." There was a lone blue ox grassing about = that no one seemed to claim. Niniva was asked if it were not his. He = said, "No my ox is black." Finally he was advised to take it anyway, the = owner perhaps had yoked up the black ox by mistake. There seemed = nothing else to do, so Niniva, mad as a hornet, went out to catch the = ox, while everyone looked on and laughed. After a while Niniva laughed = about it too, but he did not at first. He was still too mad at the man = that he thought had taken his big black ox. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Note: Nineveh Ford's name has been misspelled by several people. = I have copies of documents which contain his signature. He spelled it = "NINEVEH". Ninevah was the city; Nineveh was my great great = grandfather.=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DanM=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] The best looking car ever built. Sad, like so many of mine too. only picture of my older cars is my el Camino, I really wish I had = took pictures of them, but then they were just cars to me, not idols = like to one of my friends, he almost worshiped his car. I wonder how the pioneers felt about their wagons seeing as they = were so important then ? Dan M www.wvi.com/~wb ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cecil Houk=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] The best looking car ever built. That photo was taken in 1959. That car is now 100,000 beer cans and = a Honda. Cecil in San Diego ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DanM=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] The best looking car ever built. Lots of parts around , why not fix it up? Dan M www.wvi.com/~wb ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cecil Houk=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] The best looking car ever built. Here's my 1949 Studebaker. :-) Cecil ------=_NextPart_001_05E3_01C5F9E8.549EA860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
          &nb= sp;  =20 Nineveh Ford's Ox

From "Into the Eye of The Setting Sun" =
by=20 Charlotte Matheny Kirkwood
used by permission

     Somewhere near = the=20 crossing of the North Platte, we camped at a place called Soap = Springs. =20 It as a boggy place.  Old Mr. Mills stepped into a sink hole and, = as he=20 said: "went in up to his hat band."  Niniva Ford's big black ox = blundered=20 into one during the night.  In the morning he was found and = pulled out=20 before Niniva was up.  He was covered, all but his head, with the = thick=20 blue mud.  Niniva made a great fuss when he could not find his = big black=20 ox.=20

     Everyone else "hook = up." =20 There was a lone blue ox grassing about that no one seemed to = claim. =20 Niniva was asked if it were not his.  He said, "No my ox is = black."=20 Finally he was advised to take it anyway, the owner perhaps had yoked = up the=20 black ox by mistake.  There seemed nothing else to do, so Niniva, = mad as=20 a hornet, went out to catch the ox, while everyone looked on and=20 laughed.  After a while Niniva laughed about it too, but he did = not at=20 first.  He was still too mad at the man that he thought had taken = his big=20 black ox.


     = Note: Nineveh Ford's name has been = misspelled by=20 several people.  I have copies of documents which contain his=20 signature.  He spelled it "NINEVEH".  Ninevah was the city; = Nineveh=20 was my great great grandfather.
 
From dry (for the moment) San=20 Diego
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DanM
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 = 9:48=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] The = best looking=20 car ever built.

Sad, like so many of mine too.
   only picture of my older cars is = my el=20 Camino, I really wish I had took pictures of them, but then they were = just=20 cars to me, not idols like to one of my friends, he almost worshiped = his=20 car.
    I wonder how the pioneers = felt about=20 their wagons seeing as they were so important then ?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cecil = Houk
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Monday, December 05, = 2005 9:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] The = best=20 looking car ever built.

That photo was taken in 1959.  = That car=20 is now 100,000 beer cans and a Honda.
 
Cecil in San = Diego
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 DanM=20
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Monday, December 05, = 2005 9:31=20 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] The = best=20 looking car ever built.

Lots of parts around , why not fix it=20 up?
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Cecil = Houk=20
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Monday, December = 05, 2005=20 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = The best=20 looking car ever built.

Here's my 1949 Studebaker.  = :-)
3D""
 
Cecil
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An extremely nice Russian man has farmed the property my grandparents own for quite a number of years now (raises Boysenberries on it). My grandmother's family lives all over the land East of Old Hwy 99 (Lake Labish/Parkersville/North Howell area) and I've found alot of German immigrants in that area who came from Arad County Hungary settled there. Many there are related and quite a number that aren't related immigrated from the same area of Hungary (Germans). Most of them are buried in the Gervais cemetery or Silverton (Bethany Pioneer). Anyone researching settlers of that area might find the following web sites helpful: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~banatdata/DDB/HomePage.htm (David Dreyers Immigrant lists) http://www.banaters.com/banat/intro.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~romban/map/xymap.html (map of Banat cities many migrated from) Denise From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Denise Merritt=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder=20 I believe NA means Naturalized - AL means Alien =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harguess, Dale=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: RE: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder=20 I have been told that Na in the Naturalization column means not = applicable. -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us = [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Sue Steward Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:57 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder=20 The 1900 census says year of immigration - 1873 Number of years in the U. S. - 27 Naturalization - Na which I guess just indicates that he is a = naturalized citizen. Sue ----- Original Message -----=20 From: karen thomas=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder=20 Nancy, The Ezra in the household of Christian Martin is interesting = possibility. Does it list anyone else in the household? Susanna Schrocks parents apparently had = land next to the Martin meeting house in Ontario. Also does the 1900 census say he came = to the USA at age 27 or came in 1873 & lived in the US 27 years by this = time (1900). Many of these Amish/Mennonite familys moved to St Joseph, Indiana. Karen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nancy Lee Adams=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder=20 Hi Karen, Ezra Burkholder in the 1870 census if it's him at age 7, = is in another household of, Christian & Elizabeth Martin. Reads--Ezra = was born abt. 1863 in West Canada & everyone else in that family = including children all born in PA. ............................. In the 1900 census living in, Price, Linn Co., OR. reads = Ezra born August 1862 born in Canada & both his parents born in Canada. = Ezra came to the USA in 1873 at age 27. If this is the right Ezra, then = he lived in Canada before 1873. BUT yet the 1870 census reads he lived = in Penn, St Joseph, Indiana?? ...Must be different Ezras? A lot of different Ezra's, dates & places, huh? Nancy -------Original Message------- From: karen thomas Date: 02/13/06 12:56:26 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Canada subscription Darlene, All we know for sure is that he was raised by Susanna = Schrock from Ontario. She probably=20 was his mother but have never found a birth record. Thanks so much for looking. Karen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Darlene Casteel=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [or-roots] Canada subscription Karen, Do you have any more information about your Ezra? I = didn't get any hits on his name in the Canada data that would seem to = fit. There is a marriage record for 1882 in Ontario, but he's emigrated = to the US by then. So far, the database seems to be quite limited. = Most of what is posted there is for the province of Ontario, with a few = bits here and there from British Columbia and occasionally one item from = one of the other provinces. I will keep looking, just to make sure I = haven't overlooked something. (Hoping Ancestry is working to expand the records, or it = isn't worth the money) Darlene ----- Original Message -----=20 From: karen thomas=20 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: [or-roots] Canada subscription I was wondering if someone with the Canada subscription = would look up Ezra Burkholder for me.=20 The 1900 Oregon census lists his birthdate as 8/1/1862 and = immigration as 1873. I have been told there are several Ezras for that = time period but none of them seem to be my ancestor. Thank you to all who have helped me in this, I really = appreciate it. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C63149.4708F1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I forgot to include PA - means = Petitioned=20 (having filed paperwork for naturalization but process not yet=20 completed).
 
Denise
 
Abbreviations used in the Citizenship column = of census=20 records: AL=3DAlien; NA=3DNaturalized; NR=3DNot Reported; PA=3DFirst = Papers Filed=20 (declaration of intention).
From http://www.= genealogybranches.com/naturalization.html
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Denise Merritt
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, = 2006 8:51=20 AM
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Canada--Ezra=20 Burkholder

I believe NA means Naturalized - = AL means=20 Alien 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harguess, Dale
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, = 2006 8:39=20 AM
Subject: RE: [or-roots] = Canada--Ezra=20 Burkholder

I have = been told=20 that Na in the Naturalization column means not = applicable.

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: or-roots-admin at sos= inet.sos.state.or.us=20 [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of = Sue=20 Steward
Sent: Monday, February 13, = 2006 8:57=20 PM
To: = or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us
Subject: Re: [or-roots] = Canada--Ezra=20 Burkholder

 

The 1900 census says = year of=20 immigration - 1873

Number of years in the = U.=20 S.  - 27

Naturalization - = Na  which=20 I guess just indicates that he is a naturalized=20 citizen.

 

Sue

----- = Original=20 Message -----

From: karen thomas=20

To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20

Sent:=20 Monday, February 13, 2006 7:52 PM

Subject: Re:=20 [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder

 

Nancy,

The = Ezra in the=20 household of Christian Martin is interesting possibility.  = Does it=20 list anyone

else = in the=20 household?  Susanna Schrocks parents apparently had land next = to the=20 Martin

meeting house in=20 Ontario.  Also does the 1900 census say he came to the USA at = age 27=20 or came in 1873 & lived in the US 27 years by this time = (1900). =20 Many of these Amish/Mennonite

familys moved to=20 St Joseph, Indiana.

Karen

----- Original=20 Message -----

From: Nancy Lee = Adams=20

To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20

Sent:=20 Monday, February 13, 2006 5:30 PM

Subject: Re:=20 [or-roots] Canada--Ezra Burkholder

 

Hi = Karen,

 

Ezra=20 Burkholder in the 1870 census if it's him at age = 7, is=20 in another household of, Christian & Elizabeth=20 Martin. Reads--Ezra was born abt. 1863 in = West=20 Canada  & everyone = else in=20 that family including children all born in=20 PA.

.............................

In = the 1900=20 census living in, Price, Linn Co., OR.  reads Ezra = born=20 August 1862 born in Canada & both his = parents born in=20 Canada.=20 Ezra came to the USA in = 1873 at=20 age 27. If this is the = right Ezra,=20 then he=20 lived in=20 Canada before 1873. BUT = yet the=20 1870 census reads he lived in Penn, St Joseph, Indiana?? = .....Must=20 be different Ezras?

 

A = lot of=20 different Ezra's, dates & places, = huh?

 

Nancy

 

-------Original=20 Message-------

 

From: karen=20 thomas

Date: 02/13/06=20 12:56:26

To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us

Subject: Re: = [or-roots] Canada=20 subscription

 

Darlene,

All we know = for sure=20 is that he was raised by Susanna Schrock from = Ontario.  She=20 probably

was his = mother but=20 have never found a birth record.

Thanks so = much for=20 looking.

Karen

----- = Original Message=20 -----

From: Darlene=20 Casteel

To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20

Sent: Monday, = February 13,=20 2006 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: = [or-roots] Canada=20 subscription

 

Karen,

 

Do you have = any more=20 information about your Ezra?  I didn't get any hits = on his=20 name in the Canada data that would seem to fit.  = There is a=20 marriage record for 1882 in Ontario, but he's emigrated to = the US=20 by then.  So far, the database seems to be = quite=20 limited.  Most of what is posted there is for the = province of=20 Ontario, with a few bits here and there from British = Columbia and=20 occasionally one item from one of the other=20 provinces.  I will keep looking, just to make sure I = haven't=20 overlooked something.

 

(Hoping = Ancestry is=20 working to expand the records, or it isn't worth the=20 money)

 

Darlene

----- = Original Message=20 -----

From: karen = thomas=20

To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.sta= te.or.us=20

Sent: Monday, = February 13,=20 2006 10:46 AM

Subject: [or-roots] = Canada=20 subscription

 

I was = wondering if=20 someone with the Canada subscription would look up Ezra = Burkholder=20 for me.

The 1900 = Oregon census=20 lists his birthdate as 8/1/1862 and immigration as = 1873.  I=20 have been told there are several Ezras for that time = period but=20 none of them seem to be my = ancestor.

Thank you to = all who=20 have helped me in this, I really appreciate=20 it.

 

 

 

 

=
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C63149.4708F1E0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Aug 1868 > Coos Co., OR > Curry Co., OR Nov 1889; m. Phebe F. ANDERSON [b. Douglas Co., OR 10 Nov 1871]. 122. Daniel Laffette Anderson103,104, born 02 December 1830 in Warren Co., TN.105; died 24 January 1918 in Myrtle Point, Coos Co., OR.106. He was the son of 244. Thomas J. Anderson and 245. Patience Hannah. He married 123. Mary Ann Fitzhugh 06 September 1854 in Garden Valley, Douglas Co., OR.107. 123. Mary Ann Fitzhugh108,109, born 25 March 1838 in Jackson Co., Missouri110; died September 1891 in Portland, Multnomah Co., OR.110. She was the daughter of 246. Solomon Fitzhugh and 247. Polly Mirriam Dickey. 244. Thomas J. Anderson217, born in Tennessee218; died 1837 in Washington Co., Arkansas218. He married 245. Patience Hannah. 245. Patience Hannah219, born 04 November 1807 in North Carolina220; died 25 October 1880 in Roseburg, Douglas Co., Oregon220. Notes for Patience Hannah: The presence of Thomas in her household in Deer Creek, Oregon convinces me that the Census; 1880 Dodson Patience OR can only be this Patience. Les C 2004 More About Patience Hannah: Burial: Gilmore Cemetery, Douglas Co., OR220 246. Solomon Fitzhugh222, born 11 March 1804 in Logan Co., Kentucky223; died 18 October 1884 in Curry Co., OR.223. He was the son of 492. Peter Fitzhugh and 493. Nancy Dawson. He married 247. Polly Mirriam Dickey 19 October 1826 in Lafayette Co., Missouri224,225. 247. Polly Mirriam Dickey226, born 03 February 1808 in Kentucky227; died Aft. 1884 in Curry Co., OR.227. She was the daughter of 494. David Dickerson Dickey and 495. Phoebe ?. Notes for Polly Mirriam Dickey: Fitzhugh Thomas desc per Chew2.htm implies Mirriam may be Mary. * * * * * 4. Godfrey Seymour, Sr.12, born 01 January 1832 in Canada13; died 01 June 1932 in Gardiner, Oregon13. He married 5. Julian DeLannay. 5. Julian DeLannay14, born 27 April 1842 in Missouri15; died 19 December 1922 in Gardiner, Oregon15. She was the daughter of 10. Benjamin DeLanny and 11. Odeal ?. Notes for Godfrey Seymour, Sr.: Possibly born in Quebec, from Louie of the Lower Umpqua. 1920 Census of Douglas Co. Oregon gives some very interesting numbers for birthdates; Godfrey Jr.; Abt. 1858 Mary Abt. 1870 Frank & Fred Abt. 1876 Notes for Julian DeLannay: As of 4/13/2001 I have three spellings for her name; Julean DeLaunay from Mary Seymour funeral home notes, Julian ? Seymour from headstone, Julian DeLannay from Frank's death cert. * * * * * I have a lot of questions on this line, don't know if Julian's parents came to Oregon, as you can see, I don't even know how to spell her name, Have no proof of where Godfrey was born, or even what his parents names actually were, but doubt I will ever know. * * * * * The last line I want to discuss is my namesakes in-laws; * * * * 4. Orville Wilson French5,6, born 07 October 1872 in Bloomingdale, Du Page Co., Illinois7,8,9,10. He was the son of 8. Orville Adams French and 9. Miranda Eliza Wilson. He married 5. Stella Richardson Abt. 189711. 5. Stella Richardson12,13, born Abt. October 1877 in Alven, Iowa14,15,16. She was the daughter of 10. Albert Richardson and 11. Rosette A. ?. 6. Sylvester Williams23, born 1872 in Utah23; died 1937 in Drewsey, Harney Co., Oregon23. He was the son of 12. Hyrum A. Williams and 13. Mary ?. He married 7. Effie Holladay 1900 in Drewsey. Harney Co., Oregon. 7. Effie Holladay23, born May 1882 in Columbia, Adair Co., Kentucky23,24. She was the daughter of 14. James K. Holladay and 15. Frances ?. 14. James K. Holladay50, born Abt. 1849 in Kentucky50. He married 15. Frances ? Abt. 1871. 15. Frances ?50, born Abt. 1854. This is another one of those proofs of my addiction to genealogy, I can justify chasing Aunt Mildred's parents [French] because there is a very real expectation that I will be able to someday hook her line into my mother's, but chasing Laverne's wife's line is a little ridiculous. I really don't NEED to know much more about these folks, though if someone filled in some of the missing facts on this page I wouldn't complain. I do have some ancestors for these lines, though some of them I don't have much more than the names listed above, I do have a lot more on the Melvin Line, anyone you see here whose parents aren't mentioned, I do not have them. You will also notice some conspicuous absences, my father's family didn't arrive until 1902 and my mother's father I know about all I ever will unless somebody can find a record of people that jumped ship in California in the 19th century, or can find the ships log of the ship he was on when he jumped, there is one document I would pay significant money for if it has the information I wanted, but it would have to include a port call to Calcutta India and Liverpool England. I don't want much! I hope someone sees something of interest here. Les C From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: John H. and Catherine (Graves) PALMER 1853 (from Montgomery Co., MO to Marion Co., OR) George B. W. and Cynthia (Richardson) PARKS 1853 (from Tipton Co., IN to Douglas Co., OR) John Pinkard and Mariah (Glover) GRAVES 1849, and Thomas GRAVES 1853 (from Montgomery Co., MO to Marion Co., OR) William and Jane Jett (Palmer) GLOVER 1849 from MO to Marion Co., OR Benjamin and Rachael (Tompkins) CLEAVER 1848 from IL to Marion Co., OR and any others allied with these families. But that's enough for now! Pat From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Apparently the earliest name for the loclity of Jefferson was Conser's = Ferry named for Jacob Conser, the owner. Conser a pioneer of 1848 was a = prominent settler in the Santiam valley who was mixed up in various = enterprises at several places, including Syracjse and Santiam Ckth. = about two miles downsteream from his own community. He build his ferry = in 1851, but it appears that he was still serving as postmaster at = Santiam City in the summer of 1852. Jefferson Institute was established = in the vicinity of the ferry and the name of the institute was evntually = adopeted by the commmunity, probably on account of the strength of the = Democratic Party in the neighborhood. The institute was of course named = for thomas Jefferson, . . for early history of Conser and the = community of Jefferson see article by Jesse Steiwer Douglas in OHQ [Or = Hist Quarterly?] vol XXXII number 4. Milton Hale a pioneer of 1845 was apparently first = to sense the strategic importance of this general locality. He = established Hale Ferry on the Santiam below the present site of = Jefferson. he established Syracuse on his claim on the south bank. = Santiam City sprang up on Samuel S. Miller's claim on the north bank. = Conser sees to have been ubiquitious. Moving from the vicinity of Scio, = he became first postmaster at Syracuse whent hat offie was established = on October 4, 1850, Jacob Miller march 14, 1851, July 27, 1852 name = changed to Santiam City with Jacob Corson an obvious misprint in the = postal records for Jacob Conser. Samuel S Miller became postmaster on = Oct 16, 1852. Postal records are confusing because Syracuse office is = listed in Marion Co but the community ws of cours e in Linn County. = Santiam City office was listed in Linn Co on Oct 16, 1852 and the = community is supposed to have been in Marion County. Douglas in OHQ vl = XXXII number 3 mentions the complex history of theese two places and = conser's activities. Conser's new community gradually drew business up = rive and Syracuse and Santiam City fqaded from teh picture. The psot = office was changed to Jefferson on June 13, 1861. I wonder if these are my Aunt Hazel Milliers ancestors, she was a = Millersburg Miller and that isn't far away. Les C -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of maryeatwell at charter.net Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:41 PM To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Jefferson, Linn Co Oregon Does anyone know when the town of Jefferson was plotted, and settled by = who? Some of the pioneer names from that area? ________________________________ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: OC 3975 248.27 a 10S2W sec 5, 8 Parts of that land, in 1878, identified with T Adams, M Baily, H Gulvin, = Wm McKinney =20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Title Transfer Issue Date: 6/14/1877=20 Land Office: Oregon City=20 Cancelled: No=20 U.S. Reservations: No=20 Mineral Reservations: No=20 Authority: September 27, 1850: Oregon-Donation Act (grant) (99 Stat. = 496)=20 Document Nr.: 3975=20 Accession/Serial Nr.: OROCAA 004324=20 BLM Serial Nr.: OROCAA 004324=20 =20 =20 Aliquot Parts Sec./Block Township Range Fract.Section Meridian State = Counties Survey Nr.=20 1 5/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 1 OR SWNE QUARTER=20 2 5/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 2 OR NWSE QUARTER=20 3 5/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 3 OR SWSE QUARTER=20 11 8/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 11 OF NWNE=20 12 8/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 12 OF E HALF OF NW=20 13 8/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 13 OF W HALF OF NW=20 2 8/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 2 OR SWNE QUARTER=20 3 8/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 3 OF SWSE=20 4 8/ 10-S 2-W No Willamette OR Marion =20 Remarks: LOT 4 OR NWSW QUARTER=20 =20 I suggest you look up the above patent here: = http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ =20 It is really hard to read as it stands. =20 And, while you are there, look up the Bellinger heirs claim to much, if = not all, of the same land, identified as patented in 1865. Ooops! =20 Good luck, =20 Pat =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us = [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of GerryCT at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 23:07 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: Re: [or-roots] Jefferson, (MARION CO) Linn Co Oregon Pat --- could you be sokind as to look up Henry H. King and Maria King? = Sure would appreciate anything you might have on them. Thank you so much. =20 Gerry ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C64DBA.7E10E4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Gerry
 
Genealogical = Material in=20 Oregon Donation Land Claims,Vol 2.
 
#3975
King, Henry H.,=20 Marion Co; b 1813, Madison Co., Oh; Arr. Ore. 10 Sept 1854; S[ettled] = C[laim] 4=20 Mar 1855; m Maria Louisa 25 Oct 1835, Fayette Co., Oh. Boundary conf. = with heirs=20 of E. H. Bellinger. Letter from Maria Louisa King 23 July 1872 states = she is=20 leaving for Coos Bay. R. P. King, her son is to close sale of said = c[laim] to=20 her daughter, Mrs. Taylor. Mrs. Taylor has a sick husband in the = mountains near=20 Soda Spring. Aff: Benj. B. Cox, John W. Cox, J.
Terhune, Jacob=20 Conser
 
From NARA=20 records
OC 3975 = 248.27 a 10S2W=20 sec 5, 8
Parts of that land, in 1878, identified with T Adams, M = Baily, H=20 Gulvin, Wm McKinney
 
From BLM Records:
Patentees: HENRY H KING, MARIA L KING =
State: = OREGON=20
Acres: = 248.27=20
Metes/Bounds: No=20
Title = Transfer Issue=20 Date: 6/14/1877
Land Office: = Oregon City=20
Cancelled: = No=20
U.S. = Reservations: No=20
Mineral = Reservations: No=20
Authority: = September 27,=20 1850: Oregon-Donation Act (grant) (99 Stat. 496)
Document = Nr.: 3975=20
Accession/Serial Nr.:=20 OROCAA 004324
BLM Serial = Nr.: OROCAA=20 004324 
 
 

Aliquot Parts Sec./Block Township Range=20 Fract.Section Meridian State Counties Survey Nr. 
 1  5/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 1 OR SWNE = QUARTER 
 2  5/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 2 OR NWSE = QUARTER 
 3  5/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 3 OR SWSE = QUARTER 
 11  8/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 11 OF = NWNE 
 12  8/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 12 OF E HALF OF=20 NW 
 13  8/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 13 OF W HALF OF=20 NW 
 2  8/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  = Marion     
Remarks: LOT 2 OR SWNE = QUARTER 
 3  8/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 3 OF = SWSE 
 4  8/  10-S  2-W  = No =20 Willamette  OR  Marion    
 Remarks: LOT 4 OR NWSW QUARTER =
 
I suggest = you look up=20 the above patent here:
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/
 
It is really = hard to=20 read as it stands.
 
And, while = you are=20 there, look up the Bellinger heirs claim to much, if not all, of the = same land,=20 identified as patented in 1865.  Ooops!
 
Good=20 luck,
 
Pat
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of=20 GerryCT at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006=20 23:07
To: = or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: Re:=20 [or-roots] Jefferson, (MARION CO) Linn Co = Oregon

Pat --- could you be sokind as to look up Henry H. King and Maria = King?  Sure would appreciate anything you might have on = them.  Thank=20 you so much.
 
Gerry
------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C64DBA.7E10E4D0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: According to Mrs. Lewis the Russellville post office was for most of its life in a store on the north side of SE Stark Stree near the present Southeast 97th Ave. I think it very unlikely that a community as small as Russellville had a stand alone PO. It was more likely in a general store, or some such. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "The archives of the San Francisco Examiner, including millions of photos documenting California and the Bay Area in the 20th century and invaluable bound copies of every edition of the daily paper published from 1888 to 1956, are being donated to UC Berkeley's Bancroft Library. ...The donation, made up of more than 5 million items, will be the largest in the library's 100-year history..." http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/05/BANCROFT.TMP --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15142_1144220073_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
From the SF Chronicle:

"The archives of the San Francisco Examiner, including millions of photos documenting California and the Bay Area in the 20th century and invaluable bound copies of every edition of the daily paper published from 1888 to 1956, are being donated to UC Berkeley's Bancroft Library. ...The donation, made up of more than 5 million items, will be the largest in the library's 100-year history..."

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--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15142_1144220073_0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: We crossed on the fourth day of July and Peter H. Burnett who was later the first Governor of California crossed a few minutes later. I remember that because aunt Rachel, who had gone over some days before, had a big dinner all cooked and ready for us. Someone had killed a buffalo and aunt had a great pan of juicy steaks all broiled and piping hot. We were terribly hungry and after the steaks were eaten, we found that they had been broiled over buffalo "chips". Mrs. Burnett was not altogether happy about it. She even said that she would have "starved before she would have eaten anything cooked on them if she had known it". I guess that was not altogether true, for a few mornings later, the Hon. Peter H. was surprised when he had gone out about daylight to gather a good supply before other people were up. The boys said he was gathering them in a big white table cloth. Dry fuel of any kind was very scarce, so even the finicky ones were compelled to use them, and after a time, used them in preference, when other fuel was plentiful. They were good tinderand made beautiful coals that held the heat for a long time. Walt Davies Cooper Hollow Farm Monmouth, OR 97361 503 623-0460 --43a.1e269a1_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From aunt charlotte's book.
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   Dry fuel of any kind was very scarce, so even the finicky=20= ones=20 were compelled to use  them, and after a time, used them in preference,= =20 when other fuel was plentiful. They were good  tinderand made beautiful= =20 coals that held the heat for a long time.
 
 
 
Walt=20 Davies
Cooper Hollow Farm
Monmouth, OR 97361
503 623-0460
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M. 1875 Census Lake Genealogical Whitaker, J L 1854 Census Jackson Provisional and Territori 12281 Whitaker, W H 1856 Census Polk Provisional and Territori 6912 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Jan A Whitaker 67 f widow b Switzerland John Kyser 30 farmer b Switzerland Isaac Whitaker 19 farmer b Indiana James Whitaker 40 farmer b Ohio Year: 1870; Census Place: Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: M593_1286; Page: 489; Image: 309. James Whitaker 48 m w farmer Ohio Isaac 28 m w farmer Ind John Kiser 40 m w farmer Switzerland May Whitaker 79 f w keeps house Switzerland Year: 1880; Census Place: Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: T9_1082; Family History Film: 1255082; Page: 302.3000; Enumeration District: 68; Image: 0044. 96/98 Mary A. Whitaker w f 85 Switzerland Switzerland Switzerland Kizer, John, son w m 50 Switzerland Switzerland Switzerland 96/99 Isaac Whitaker w m 41 Ind Oh Switzerland Malissa w f 26 wife OR __ __ Edmond w m 6 son OR Ind OR Sam Caruthers w m 22 boarder ARk __ Ky I didn't find Lav* Def* anywhere. When you say you "have a marriage of an Isaac Whitaker to a Mrs. Lavina Deford" -- what is your source? Who are these people (I mean in terms of age, birth, relatives)? Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Harguess, Dale Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 08:35 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Whitaker Here I am again with another total dead end. I have a marriage of an Isaac Whitaker to a Mrs. Lavina Deford I think sometime before 1860 in Oregon. I have never been able to find this couple anywhere. Does anyone on the list have access to Oregon State Census? Suggestions are welcome. Dale ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C68F97.DBCBAD70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
From=20 the OR Archives:
Whitaker,=20 Benjamin
1856
Census
Polk
Provisional and Territori
6912
Whitaker,=20 C
1895
Census
Marion
Genealogical
Vol 1 pg 182
Whitaker, G. = M.
1875
Census
Lake
Genealogical
 
Whitaker, J = L
1854
Census
Jackson
Provisional and Territori
12281
Whitaker, W = H
1856
Census
Polk
Provisional and Territori
6912
 
From=20 Ancestry:
 
 Year: 1860; Census Place: Springfield, = Lane,=20 Oregon; Roll: M653_1055; Page: 284; Image: 568.
Jan A=20 Whitaker 67 f widow b Switzerland
John=20 Kyser 30 farmer b Switzerland
Isaac=20 Whitaker 19 farmer b Indiana
James=20 Whitaker 40 farmer b Ohio

Year: 1870; Census = Place:=20 Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: M593_1286; Page: 489; Image: = 309.
James Whitaker 48 m w = farmer=20 Ohio
Isaac 28 m w farmer Ind
John Kiser 40 m w = farmer=20 Switzerland
May Whitaker 79 f w = keeps house=20 Switzerland

Year: 1880; Census = Place:=20 Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: T9_1082; Family History Film: 1255082; = Page:=20 302.3000; Enumeration District: 68; Image: 0044.
96/98 Mary A. Whitaker = w f 85=20 Switzerland Switzerland Switzerland
Kizer, John, son w m 50 = Switzerland=20 Switzerland Switzerland
 
96/99 Isaac Whitaker w = m 41 Ind Oh=20 Switzerland
Malissa w f 26 wife OR = __=20 __
Edmond w m 6 son OR Ind = OR
Sam Caruthers w m 22 = boarder ARk __=20 Ky
 
I didn't find Lav* Def*=20 anywhere.
 
When you say you "have a marriage of an Isaac = Whitaker=20 to a Mrs. Lavina Deford" -- what is your source?  Who are these = people (I=20 mean in terms of age, birth, = relatives)?
 
Pat (in=20 Tucson)
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us=20 [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of = Harguess,=20 Dale
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 08:35
To:=20 or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
Subject: [or-roots]=20 Whitaker

Here I am again with = another total=20 dead end.  I have a marriage of an Isaac Whitaker to a Mrs. = Lavina Deford=20 I think sometime before 1860 in Oregon. =20

I have never been able = to find=20 this couple anywhere. 

Does anyone on the list = have=20 access to Oregon State Census?

Suggestions are=20 welcome.

Dale

------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C68F97.DBCBAD70-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Whitaker, Benjamin = 1856 Census Polk Provisional and Territori 6912 Whitaker, C =20 1895 Census Marion Genealogical Vol 1 pg 182 Whitaker, G. M. =20 1875 Census Lake Genealogical =20 Whitaker, J L =20 1854 Census Jackson Provisional and Territori 12281 Whitaker, W H =20 1856 Census Polk Provisional and Territori 6912 =20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: =20 Year: 1860; Census Place: Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: M653_1055; Page: 284; Image: 568. Jan A Whitaker 67 f widow b Switzerland John Kyser 30 farmer b Switzerland Isaac Whitaker 19 farmer b Indiana James Whitaker 40 farmer b Ohio Year: 1870; Census Place: Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: M593_1286; Page: 489; Image: 309. James Whitaker 48 m w farmer Ohio=20 Isaac 28 m w farmer Ind John Kiser 40 m w farmer Switzerland May Whitaker 79 f w keeps house Switzerland Year: 1880; Census Place: Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: T9_1082; Family History Film: 1255082; Page: 302.3000; Enumeration District: 68; Image: 0044. 96/98 Mary A. Whitaker w f 85 Switzerland Switzerland Switzerland Kizer, John, son w m 50 Switzerland Switzerland Switzerland =20 96/99 Isaac Whitaker w m 41 Ind Oh Switzerland Malissa w f 26 wife OR __ __ Edmond w m 6 son OR Ind OR Sam Caruthers w m 22 boarder ARk __ Ky =20 I didn't find Lav* Def* anywhere. =20 When you say you "have a marriage of an Isaac Whitaker to a Mrs. Lavina Deford" -- what is your source? Who are these people (I mean in terms of age, birth, relatives)? =20 Pat (in Tucson) -----Original Message----- From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Harguess, Dale Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 08:35 To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us Subject: [or-roots] Whitaker Here I am again with another total dead end. I have a marriage of an Isaac Whitaker to a Mrs. Lavina Deford I think sometime before 1860 in Oregon. =20 I have never been able to find this couple anywhere. =20 Does anyone on the list have access to Oregon State Census? Suggestions are welcome. Dale ------_=_NextPart_001_01C68FD4.96F08349 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

At my library there is a book of = Oregon = marriages.  I found this marriage in that book.  Tonight I will look up the exact date = and county.  The reason I am trying to track these folks down is that I = am curious about this Mrs. Lavina Deford.  I have a Samuel Deford who = came to Oregon about 1852 and his mother’s name was Lavina Deford.  I don’t = know if this woman is his mother or not.  If she is, then it would mean = that she and his father Joseph Deford would have gotten a divorce.  I have = been under the impression that she died because he had remarried by the 1860 census.  It seems plausible that she was Samuel’s mother = since she married this guy Whitaker in Oregon and that is where Samuel migrated to from = Iowa.

Dale

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: = or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, = 2006 9:50 AM
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.= or.us
Subject: RE: [or-roots] = Whitaker

 

From the OR = Archives:

Whitaker, = Benjamin

1856

Census

Polk

Provisional and Territori

6912

Whitaker, = C

1895

Census

Marion

Genealogical

Vol 1 pg 182

Whitaker, = G. M.

1875

Census

Lake

Genealogical

 

Whitaker, = J L

1854

Census

Jackson

Provisional and Territori

12281

Whitaker, = W H

1856

Census

Polk

Provisional and Territori

6912

 

From = Ancestry:

 

 Year: = 1860; Census Place: Springfield, Lane, Oregon; Roll: M653_1055; Page: 284; Image: = 568.

Jan A Whitaker = 67 f widow b Switzerland

John Kyser 30 = farmer b Switzerland

Isaac Whitaker = 19 farmer b Indiana

James Whitaker = 40 farmer b Ohio


Year: 1870; Census Place: Springfield, = Lane, Oregon; Roll: M593_1286; Page: 489; Image: 309.

James Whitaker = 48 m w farmer Ohio

Isaac 28 m w = farmer Ind

John Kiser 40 m = w farmer Switzerland

May Whitaker 79 = f w keeps house Switzerland


Year: 1880; Census Place: Springfield, = Lane, Oregon; Roll: T9_1082; Family History Film: 1255082; Page: 302.3000; Enumeration District: 68; Image: 0044.

96/98 Mary A. = Whitaker w f 85 Switzerland Switzerland Switzerland

Kizer, John, son = w m 50 Switzerland Switzerland Switzerland

 

96/99 Isaac = Whitaker w m 41 Ind Oh Switzerland

Malissa w f 26 = wife OR __ __

Edmond w m 6 son = OR Ind OR

Sam Caruthers w = m 22 boarder ARk __ Ky

 

I didn't find = Lav* Def* anywhere.

 

When you say you "have a marriage of an Isaac Whitaker to a Mrs. Lavina Deford" = -- what is your source?  Who are these people (I mean in terms of age, = birth, relatives)?

 

Pat (in = Tucson)

-----Original Message-----
From: = or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Harguess, = Dale
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, = 2006 08:35
To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.= or.us
Subject: [or-roots] = Whitaker

Here I am again with = another total dead end.  I have a marriage of an Isaac Whitaker to a Mrs. Lavina = Deford I think sometime before 1860 in Oregon. 

I have never been able to = find this couple anywhere. 

Does anyone on the list = have access to Oregon State Census?

Suggestions are = welcome.

Dale

------_=_NextPart_001_01C68FD4.96F08349-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: b. 12 Oct 1917--d 28 Jun 1991 -- Bob Goodman USAF Retired Tacoma, WA -------------- Original message -------------- From: LinLouVan at aol.com Well, I apologize for not having given the information I knew at the beginning. I keep forgetting how much the people on this list love to research. Here is what I was given by my friend -- who knows nothing about research, computer or otherwise: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "My friend's name is FRANK JOSEPH GWODZ. (I'm not certain but I think Joseph is his middle name). He and wife Denise lived in Wasilla, Alaska. We exchanged Christmas cards for years and e-mails too. The Christmas card for 2005 was returned as undeliverable -no forwarding . Not sure of the card for 2004 card, I don't have a note anywhere. Sure appreciate your help in finding out if he has passed away." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now, is that an unusual name to research or what? I did find a directory listing for Frank and Denise in 2002 in Wasilla. But, all that tells us is that he was living at that time -- and we knew that. I searched the Social Security Death Index for GWODZ, Frank J. (only); but did not get creative; and came up with nothing. I'd love to be able to tell my friend that I found him. But, in reality, I'd like it just as much to let her know what a great bunch of researchers we have on the Or-Roots list. Thank you to all who responded to my plea. Linda VanOrden Junction City, OR LinLouVan at aol.com --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_28478_1151365112_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
From SSI--Frank Joseph Gwodz--Soc # 345-01-3932
b. 12 Oct 1917--d 28 Jun 1991
 
--
Bob Goodman
USAF Retired
Tacoma, WA
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: LinLouVan at aol.com
Well, I apologize for not having given the information I knew at the beginning. I keep
forgetting how much the people on this list love to research. Here is what I was given
by my friend -- who knows nothing about research, computer or otherwise:
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"My friend's name is FRANK JOSEPH GWODZ. (I'm not certain but I think Joseph is his middle name).  He and wife Denise lived in Wasilla, Alaska.  We exchanged Christmas cards for years and e-mails too. The Christmas card for 2005 was returned as undeliverable -no forwarding . Not sure of the card for 2004 card, I don't have a note anywhere.
 
Sure appreciate your help in finding out if he has passed away."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Now, is that an unusual name to research or what?
I did find a directory listing for Frank and Denise in 2002 in Wasilla. But, all that tells
us is that he was living at that time -- and we knew that.
 
I searched the Social Security Death Index for GWODZ, Frank J. (only); but did not
get creative; and came up with nothing.
 
I'd love to be able to tell my friend that I found him.  But, in reality, I'd like it just as much to let her know what a great bunch of researchers we have on the Or-Roots list.
Thank you to all who responded to my plea.
 
Linda VanOrden
Junction City, OR
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_28478_1151365112_0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: and select the "hit option" If it is something I want, then, I click on "download". Click on the box for the part (if not too many pages) or type in page numbers down below. You can only download perhaps 19 pages at a time. If I get message "To help protect your security, Internet Explorer blocked this site from downloading files to your computer. Click here for options" Click on "download file" from options. Do you want to open or save this file? Choose Save. Make sure I'm saving to the appropriate folder, making up a folder for each book, if I'm doing many pages (My documents/Genealogy/families/Palmer/EPV_Palmer) give file a name (Palmer_1-10) and save. I have Adobe Acrobat, so after I've done the whole book, I start with the first file, open it, and append the pages from one file to the other, winding up with essentially one book. Then, I "save as" the Book Name and delete the "old" files. Now, if you have only Adobe Reader, you will have to keep the files separate. Do this for all pages, kiss your wife, drink coffee, etc. I don't know any other way of downloading these files. When I said something about saving to PDF, I was thinking of the census, which do give you a choice. You can Download to disk as a PDF or TIFF file, or view in Adobe Acrobat. (Adobe Reader, actually). I just did all of this, as a test, under IE 7, and had no problem at all. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: HTML or something? If you are doing that, may I suggest you try my method? See if you like it more. Pat | |Pat, I wasn't aware of a PDF option for downloading images, I |don't really like working with PDF files anyway, but lots of |folks do. What I used to do in previous versions is click |"file" and then "save as" type in or "ctrl V" the title I |want to use and and click ok, My wife came in one might in the |middle of the night and found me essentially downloading a |book from HQ in my sleep, I was about halfway through 150 |pages or so (I think it was the Melvin from Palmer Groups) I |was just conscious enough to get the page number in a coherent |fashion and move on to the next one. I sure can't do that with |IE7, for one thing about 1/2 the time when I go to hit file |save I hit the print icon instead, fortunately I am having so |much trouble printing from this computer that the only problem |with that is having to cancel the print run when the icon pops |up to complain about not being able to connect with the print spooler. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Valentine) and open up the hit list, and select the "hit option" If it is something I want, then, I click on "download". Click on the box for the part (if not too many pages) or type in page numbers down below. You can only download perhaps 19 pages at a time. If I get message "To help protect your security, Internet Explorer blocked this site from downloading files to your computer. Click here for options" Click on "download file" from options. Do you want to open or save this file? Choose Save. Make sure I'm saving to the appropriate folder, making up a folder for each book, if I'm doing many pages (My documents/Genealogy/families/Palmer/EPV_Palmer) give file a name (Palmer_1-10) and save. I have Adobe Acrobat, so after I've done the whole book, I start with the first file, open it, and append the pages from one file to the other, winding up with essentially one book. Then, I "save as" the Book Name and delete the "old" files. Now, if you have only Adobe Reader, you will have to keep the files separate. Do this for all pages, kiss your wife, drink coffee, etc. I don't know any other way of downloading these files. When I said something about saving to PDF, I was thinking of the census, which do give you a choice. You can Download to disk as a PDF or TIFF file, or view in Adobe Acrobat. (Adobe Reader, actually). I just did all of this, as a test, under IE 7, and had no problem at all. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: download the whole screen? In HTML or something? If you are doing that, may I suggest you try my method? See if you like it more. Pat | |Pat, I wasn't aware of a PDF option for downloading images, I |don't really like working with PDF files anyway, but lots of |folks do. What I used to do in previous versions is click |"file" and then "save as" type in or "ctrl V" the title I |want to use and and click ok, My wife came in one might in the |middle of the night and found me essentially downloading a |book from HQ in my sleep, I was about halfway through 150 |pages or so (I think it was the Melvin from Palmer Groups) I |was just conscious enough to get the page number in a coherent |fashion and move on to the next one. I sure can't do that with |IE7, for one thing about 1/2 the time when I go to hit file |save I hit the print icon instead, fortunately I am having so |much trouble printing from this computer that the only problem |with that is having to cancel the print run when the icon pops |up to complain about not being able to connect with the print spooler. _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us http://sosinet.sos.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Nov 19 13:58:53 2020 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:58:53 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: always show the father's occupation and address - vital clues when you're trying to confirm that you've found the correct entry. TIP #3: Register entries often provide more information than you might expect HOLD THE FRONT PAGE! Have you ever wondered who the people are in the photos on our home page? They are all ancestors of LostCousins members who were recorded in the 1880/1881 Census! If you'd like to see one of your relatives on our home page just email info at LostCousins.com and include the word PHOTO in the subject line. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_879_1172260983_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I heard about this web site on another list.  Sound interesting and easy. Thought I would pass it along.
 
Eugene
 
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From: "LostCousins" <info at lostcousins.com>
To: NewMember at lostcousins.com
Subject: Welcome to LostCousins!
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:19:11 +0000

We're really glad that you've decided to join - because the more people
who join the LostCousins community, the better it is for everyone! That's
why it's FREE to register, and FREE to be a member.

If you want to make use of the subscriber-only features there is normally a
small subscription, but otherwise everything is FREE, including our
confidential one-to-one research help and advice!

(If you want to know what you might be missing, the Subscribe page lists
the advantages and costs of subscribing.)

We support all three of the censuses that are available at the FREE
FamilySearch site:

US 1880
England & Wales 188 1
Canada 1881

We also support the Scotland 1881 census which is available online at the
official Scotlandspeople site.

When you email LostCousins your message is read and responded to by a
real person, not a computer. All of us are researching our own ancestors,
so we understand the problems - and the joys - of family history.


OUR EMAIL ADDRESSES
Some of the emails you receive are sent automatically - for example, the
one you should have received with your temporary password. Emails sent
automatically come from website at LostCousins.com

All other emails are sent from info at LostCousins.com and this is the
address you should use whatever the nature of the correspondence.

What would help enormously is if you could ensure that emails sent from
these two addresses will be accepted. We never send junk mail - we only
send information that we believe will help you - and of course we'll never
give your addr ess to anyone else.

Usually it will be sufficient to add our email addresses to your address
book.

However, for Hotmail users things are a little different. You will need to add
the following domains to your 'safe list':

host0484.cammail.net
v057.cammail.net
lostcousins.com

If you have a standard free Hotmail account then this simply means
logging-in to Hotmail as usual, and clicking on 'Options'. Choose 'Junk E-
Mail Protection' from the menu, then click 'Safe list'.

To check that you're able to receive our automated emails, such as the
messages that will come from your 'lost cousins', just request a password
reminder (click "Forgotten your password?" on our home page).


YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES
When you registered we invited you to enter a second email address
(Emergency Contact Email) that we can use when the first one stops
working.

It doesn't need to be your own address - it coul d be that of a friend or
relative - but ideally it should be through a different email provider.

We will only use the 'emergency' address if emails we send to your primary
address are returned to us - and we won't reveal any personal information,
other than the fact that you're a LostCousins member.

Although you may have no intention of changing your address, experience
has shown that addresses often change - either because of a change of
ISP, or because of some other change of circumstances (change of job,
marriage etc).

Hotmail addresses seem to have a particularly short life - because these
email accounts are closed if you don't use them every month.

It's a terrible shame when we find a 'lost cousin', but can't tell the member
concerned because his or her email address isn't working.

So if you haven't already entered an email address that we can use in
emergencies we'd suggest you do so when you change y our password (see
below).


HOW TO GET STARTED
As a new member of LostCousins you may be wondering where to start!
Here's a brief summary of what you need to do (see the 'Getting Started'
page on the site for more details):


STEP #1: LOG-IN
If you haven't already logged-in you should do so right away - this lets us
know that you've received your password, which in turn confirms that your
email address is working. The address of the LostCousins home page is:

http://www.LostCousins.com


STEP #2: CHOOSE A NEW PASSWORD
When you log-in for the first time we'd suggest you change your password
to something you'll find easy to remember.

To change your password, your email address, or any other item of
personal information just click on 'My Details' and re-enter your existing
password. After making changes on your 'My Details' page always click
Submit.


STEP #3: TAKE A LOOK AROUND
We'd suggest that you take a look around the LostCousins site so that
you've got some idea of where everything is. Please note that many of the
pages on the site are personal to you, and so can only be accessed after
you've logged-in.

The 'Getting Started' page, 'Beginners Guide', and FAQs are full of useful
information for new members. Also look out for additional 'Help' information
on some pages.


STEP #4: ENTER YOUR RELATIVES FROM 1880/81
Information about your relatives is entered on your 'My Ancestors' page.
(On the site and in our newsletters we often use the term ancestors to
mean any relatives from past generations, whether or not they are in your
direct line.)

You should enter as many as possible of the relatives you can find on the
1880/81 Censuses - the more you're able to enter, the sooner you'll find
your first 'lost cousin', and the more 'lost cousins you'll find over the
longer-
term.

Don't make the mistake of entering only those in your direct line. All of your
blood relatives share your ancestors, and any one of them could lead to a
'lost cousin'.

Please make sure that you specify the correct relationship - direct ancestor,
blood relative, marriage, or adoption.

Direct ancestors are your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, great-
great grandparents - and so on. The blank Ancestor Chart we provide
shows your direct ancestors, and also gives their Ancestor Numbers (it
helps if you include these).

A blood relative is any other relative who shares one of your direct
ancestors. You'll find more information about relationships in the FAQs.

Note: the marriage relationship allows you to include the families your
relatives married into in the 19th century - it is NOT for your spouse's
relatives, who should be entered on a separate LostCousins account.

If your direct ancestors left Br itain before 1881 we'd encourage you to enter
the relatives they left behind (after all, they are likely to be the relatives
who will link you to your British cousins).

All of the censuses we support can be found at the free FamilySearch site
(http://www.FamilySearch.org) with the exception of Scotland 1881 census,
which is only online at the official Scotlandspeople site
(http://www.Scotlandspeople.gov.uk).

When you use FamilySearch to search the US 1880, Canada 1881, or
England & Wales 1881 censuses DON'T use the 'All Resources' search.
Instead, go to the Census search page.

Whilst you can also access the England & Wales and US censuses at
Ancestry, that site doesn't provide the information in a convenient format -
whereas the 'Household Record' at FamilySearch shows everything on one
page that you can easily print out.

If you need help finding your relatives on the census just ask us for help!
We 've got an experienced team here, plus a fantastic team of 'buddies',
members who give up their time to help others. Click on 'Buddy Scheme' to
find out more.

You'll also find it helpful to read the hints and tips for searching the census
that were in our July 2006 email newsletter. This article was so popular that
we've made it available online at the LostCousins site:

http://www.lostcousins.com/searching_the_census.htm

Although it was written primarily in relation to the England & Wales
censuses you'll find that most of the hints and tips also apply to other
censuses.


STEP #5: PRESS THE SEARCH BUTTON
When you've entered your relatives from the censuses click the 'Search'
button on your 'My Ancestors' page - we'll quickly and automatically match
your ancestors against the relatives entered by other members.

Any new matches we find will be indicated by a red tick - and the cousins
we've found wi ll be listed in the 'New Contacts' section of your 'My Cousins'
page.

Don't worry if you don't immediately get a match - the LostCousins
membership is growing fast. However you can always improve the odds by
entering more relatives - you can never know which one will be the link to
your first 'lost cousin'!

Whenever you want to check if there are any new matches just log-in, go to
'My Ancestors', and click 'Search'. You don't need to re-enter any
information - so it only takes a few seconds to get right up to date.


STEP #6: RELAX
When you are sure that you've entered as many as possible of your
relatives who were living in the US in 1880 or in Britain or Canada in 1881,
you can leave the rest to us!

But if you haven't found any 'lost cousins' within one month of joining we
suggest that you ask us for advice. Very often there's a simple
misunderstanding that can be sorted out with a couple of emails.

Thanks for joining LostCousins - remember, if ever you need help using the
site, or tracking down your ancestors on the census, just email
info at LostCousins.com

The LostCousins Team

=====================


HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR NEWSLETTERS
The newsletters that we circulate to members twice a month contain all
sorts of useful information, including hints and tips to help you find your
ancestors and news of general interest to family historians.

Whilst the news may become out of date, the hints and tips are timeless, so
below we've picked out some of the most useful items from previous
newsletters.

By the way, you can choose whether or not you receive our newsletters -
it's one of the preferences on your 'My Details' page.


* THE WAY WE WORK - what's different about LostCousins
* WHICH RELATIVES SHOULD I ENTER? - tips
* SPOUSES - your other half's ancestors
* REFERRALS - good for everyo ne
* HINTS & TIPS - parish registers
* HOLD THE FRONT PAGE - your ancestor on our home page!


THE WAY WE WORK
LostCousins is different from other family history sites. Our aim was to
create a site where you could find others who share the same ancestors
with the minimum of effort, and without your personal information being
seen by all and sundry.

Once you've entered your ancestors we search for matches automatically,
whenever you click the Search button. Unlike other sites there's no need to
keep telling us who you're looking for - all the relevant information is stored
on your 'My Ancestors' page.

Information you enter about you and your ancestors is not displayed on the
site, nor can it be accessed by search engines.

Unless you give your express permission, you are the only one who gets to
see the information you've entered (see our Privacy Policy for more
details). Even after we've found your cousin you can correspond with them
without revealing your email address.

Our automatic matching system is incredibly accurate - because of the
precise information that you and other members enter. When we find a
cousin you can be 100% certain that the other person is related to you.

That represents an enormous time-saving compared to sites that come up
with lots of names, but very few people who are truly related to you.


WHICH RELATIVES SHOULD I ENTER?
Very simply, the more relatives you are able to enter, the sooner you'll find
your first 'lost cousin' - and the more 'lost cousins' you'll find in the longer
term.

Start with your direct ancestors and the relatives they were living with at the
time of the census, but don't stop there!

We've found that in practice the relatives most likely to lead to 'lost cousins'
are the brothers, sisters, and cousins who by 1880/81 had families of their
own.

TIP #1: Enter all the relatives that you can find on the 1880/81 Census - the
more you enter the better your chances!

Just click on the + symbol alongside an ancestor to add someone else in
the same household. No need to enter the census references, no need to
enter the surname: in most cases all you need to enter is the forename and
age, which takes less than 10 seconds.

TIP #2: Use 'Add Similar' to save time when you add others from the same
household.

You know how sometimes you can't see something for looking? Family
history can be like that sometimes! Focus in too closely on one particular
problem, and you could be missing opportunities elsewhere.

Before the Internet, people researching their family history would often
home in on the male line, and ignore all the other ancestors who had
contributed to their DNA.

That was an understandable decision then, because researching even one
line could ta ke 20 years - but nowadays, with information at their fingertips,
most people want to know more.

It now makes sense to research all of your ancestors, not just the ones who
were rich and famous, but also those who were labourers, since who you
are depends just as much on them.

TIP #3: Research all of your family lines - you never know what you will
find!

It's very rare that someone mentions out of the blue that they're
researching their family tree - but when the topic does crop up in
conversation, it's amazing how many other people will tell you about a
cousin who is researching their family.

TIP #4: Don't wait for a friend or relative to express an interest in family
history before telling them about LostCousins - just go ahead and tell them
anyway!

Anyone who finds a 'lost cousin' as a result of you tipping them off about
the LostCousins site is going to be really, really grateful.


SPOUSE S
Please remember that your husband or wife needs to open a separate
LostCousins account - LostCousins is all about bringing together people
who share a common ancestor.

It isn't currently possible to have more than one LostCousins account at the
same email address.

If you don't have a spare email address we'd recommend you get one free
from Google (Gmail) or Yahoo. We don't recommend Hotmail.


REFERRALS
Telling other people about LostCousins is one of the two most important
things you can do to help your fellow members (the other is to enter your
relatives on your 'My Ancestors' page).

If you want to find as many 'lost cousins' as possible, and you want to find
them as soon as possible, then please do what you can to increase the
member numbers.

You don't have to use your 'My Referrals' page to tell your friends and
relatives about LostCousins, but you will find that it's the easiest way to
keep track of who you've told, and who you haven't.

And for your relatives there's an enormous bonus - it allows you to 'send'
them the ancestors that you share so that they don't have to enter them all
over again!

By the way, you don't need know your friend or relative's email address
(and even if you do know it, you don't need to tell us).

Just leave the email box blank and we'll give you a referral code and some
brief instructions that you can forward to your friend or relative by whatever
method you choose.


HINTS & TIPS - ENGLAND & WALES PARISH REGISTERS
When a couple lived in different parishes they would normally get married
in the parish where the bride lived, but banns would be read in both
parishes.

TIP #1: To find a missing marriage, try searching the Register of Banns

Would you like to see you ancestors' signatures? From 1754 onwards
marriage registers would have been signed b y the bride and groom - and
the witnesses too.

Even if your ancestors got married in a Register Office (from 1837
onwards) you may still be able to see the signatures if you obtain a copy
certificate from the local Register Office, rather than through the General
Register Office.

(However, not all local offices are willing and able to provide certificates
which are facsimiles of the register entries - so it's a good idea to ask
first.)

Signatures are of more than aesthetic value - when you're struggling to
prove which of two people was your ancestor, it could be the handwriting
(or lack of it!) that provides a vital clue.

TIP #2: Documents that show your ancestor's signature or mark could
prove invaluable in your research.

Up to 1812 there was no standard way of entering baptisms, and in many
parishes baptisms and burials are muddled in the same register. The
information varies widely, depending on the parish and the incumbent.

From 1813 standard pre-printed registers were employed, and these should
always show the father's occupation and address - vital clues when you're
trying to confirm that you've found the correct entry.

TIP #3: Register entries often provide more information than you might
expect


HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!
Have you ever wondered who the people are in the photos on our home
page? They are all ancestors of LostCousins members who were recorded
in the 1880/1881 Census!

If you'd like to see one of your relatives on our home page just email
info at LostCousins.com and include the word PHOTO in the subject line.

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