[ORMAP-Tech] FW: [OGIC] Geodetic Control FIT - Call in information

[MCCLELLAN Philip L]

Please see the comments from Ken Bays from ODOT below.


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From: fit-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:fit-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of SMITH Cy * EISPD GEO
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:37 AM
To: fit at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; gpl_list at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; BAYS Kenneth; map at coid.org; HILL Milton E * EISPD GEO; ogic2 at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ogic at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ous-gis at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; pac at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Cc: SINGH Ranvir * Ron
Subject: Re: [FIT] [OGIC] Geodetic Control FIT - Call in information

OK, great, thanks!  I just didn't want to take up everyone's time if we didn't need a meeting.  Sounds like the meeting is on for tomorrow.  Thanks!

cy

Cy Smith, Statewide GIS Coordinator
DAS/EISPD Geospatial Enterprise Office
President, Urban/Regional Info Sys Assoc. (URISA)
Delegate, Coalition of Geospatial Organizations (COGO)
Past President, Natl. States Geographic Info. Council (NSGIC)
503-378-6066          http://gis.oregon.gov

From: BAYS Kenneth [mailto:Kenneth.BAYS at odot.state.or.us]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:33 AM
To: SMITH Cy * EISPD GEO; fit at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; gpl_list at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; HILL Milton E * EISPD GEO; ogic2 at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ogic at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ous-gis at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; pac at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; map at coid.org
Cc: SINGH Ranvir * Ron
Subject: RE: [OGIC] Geodetic Control FIT - Call in information

Cy,

I agree with you that the Senate Bill 877 won't directly impact the GIS community.

The main thrust of the Senate Bill is to amend ORS Chapter 93,  Conveyancing and Recording, to make the new Oregon Coordinate Reference System (OCRS) allowable for legal property descriptions that are filed with the counties, just as State Plane Coordinates are presently legal for that purpose, and to move the definitions of the legacy State Plane Coordinates to a new adminstrative rule, where they will reside along with definitions of the new OCRS.

Making this amendment to ORS 93 also requires minor housekeeping amendments to ORS Chapter 209, County Surveyors, and ORS Chapter 390, State & Local Parks, etc..,  only because both Chapters 209 and 390 now "point" to ORS 93 for the definition of the legacy State Plane Coordinate systems; consequently, amendments are needed simply to "repoint" to the definitions of the legacy State Plane Coordinates in the new Administrative Rule.   Nothing else in ORS 209 or 390 will change.

The main impact of the new OCRS on the GIS community won't be the legal changes in SB 877 outlined above, rather the impact will be the addition of the OCRS parameters to future software packages from GIS and GPS manufacturers, thus promoting our common goal of sharing geospatial data from various sources, various accuracies, and various coordinate systems along with adequate metadata.

That being said, SB 877 is still not written quite the way ODOT requested it, and it will be immediately amended upon introduction to the Senate to fix that.  In addition, there is also a lot of uncertainty out there in the GIS community about the bill, so I think it would be fine to have a FIT meeting to update everyone and answer questions anyone may have.  It would be a pleasure to host a FIT meeting here at our new office and see you all, or have members use the alternate call in that Milt has arranged, that is if weather permits a meeting tomorrow.

Ken


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Ken Bays,  PLS
Lead Geodetic Surveyor, Geometronics Unit
Oregon Department of Transportation

Technical Manager, Oregon Real-time GPS Network (ORGN)
http://www.TheORGN.net<http://www.theorgn.net/>

4040 Fairview Industrial Dr SE, MS 4, Salem, OR 97302
Phone:  503-986-3543
Cell:      503-580-8793
Fax:      503-986-3548
kenneth.bays at odot.state.or.us
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From: SMITH Cy * EISPD GEO [mailto:cy.smith at state.or.us]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:37 AM
To: fit at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; gpl_list at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; HILL Milton E * EISPD GEO; ogic2 at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ogic at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ous-gis at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; pac at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Cc: SINGH Ranvir * Ron; BAYS Kenneth
Subject: RE: [OGIC] Geodetic Control FIT - Call in information
Hi folks, I want to check in with you regarding this matter.  My analysis of SB877 is that it would have no direct impact on the GIS portion of the geospatial community.  Do you agree?  If so, there may be no need to have a meeting tomorrow.  Please reply as quickly as you can after reviewing the bill at the link below.

cy

Cy Smith, Statewide GIS Coordinator
DAS/EISPD Geospatial Enterprise Office
President, Urban/Regional Info Sys Assoc. (URISA)
Delegate, Coalition of Geospatial Organizations (COGO)
Past President, Natl. States Geographic Info. Council (NSGIC)
503-378-6066          http://gis.oregon.gov

From: ogic-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:ogic-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of HILL Milton E * EISPD GEO
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:51 AM
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Cc: SINGH Ranvir * Ron; BAYS Kenneth
Subject: [OGIC] Geodetic Control FIT - Call in information

To call in to this meeting dial 503.378-2167 and use passcode 32026.

------------------ Milt
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From: fit-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us [mailto:fit-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] On Behalf Of HILL Milton E * EISPD GEO
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:40 PM
To: gpl_list at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; fit at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ogic at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ogic2 at listsmart.osl.state.or.us; ous-gis at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
Cc: SINGH Ranvir * Ron; BAYS Kenneth
Subject: [FIT] Geodetic Control FIT - Update

Greetings!
SB 877 has appeared and may be related to LC 3314. Here's a link to it: http://www.leg.state.or.us/11reg/measpdf/sb0800.dir/sb0877.intro.pdf

We'll have a conference call arranged shortly and will send out that info as soon as we can.

Hope to see you on Thursday.

------------------ Milt
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Greetings!
Many of you are likely aware of the work that has taken place over the past few years to develop the Oregon Coordinate Reference System (OCRS). Legislation is now being developed to implement OCRS and we're please to offer an opportunity for all interested persons to learn more and ask questions.

The original legislation related to this subject, SB 446, has been pulled and the process has started over with LC 3314.

Please join us for the discussion:
Thursday, Feb. 24,
10:00 to Noon
Silver Creek Conference Room
Oregon Dept of Transportation
4040 Fairview Industrial Dr. SE
Salem, OR 97302

Ron Singh (Chief of Surveys, ODOT) and Ken Bays (Lead Geodetic Surveyor, ODOT) will present a brief overview of OCRS and then go into detail on the proposed legislation. There will be ample time for questions.

LC 3314 will soon be available on the Geodetic Control FIT Page: http://www.oregon.gov/DAS/EISPD/GEO/fit/geodetic_control/geodetic_control.shtml

The OCRS page: http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/GEOMETRONICS/ocrs.shtml


Milt Hill, GISP
Framework Coordinator
DAS/Geospatial Enterprise Office
955 Center St. NE, Rm 470
Salem, OR 97301
503-378-3157
milton.e.hill at state.or.us<BLOCKED::mailto:milton.e.hill at state.or.us>
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