[YSPNetwork] New Tool from LivingWorks
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mcconahay1 at netscape.net
Fri Jun 2 10:25:38 PDT 2006
My postion is that there is room for all points of view here. There are not enough ASIST, safeTALK, or QPR Trainers in Oregon to spread the word as much as we need to. There are not enough SAFE TEEN, Yellow Ribbon, media coverage, or Survivor's Groups. There are not enough clinicians who are as comfortable with issues of suicide as they are with psychotherapy. More can be done to raise support and political will.
As long as people learn that they can ask about suicide when they suspect it and are willing and able to get the person to the appropriate level of help, then I guess I am happy.
There is room for everyone. The more we work togeher the better.
Gary McConahay PhD
From: Donna NOONAN <Donna.Noonan at state.or.us>
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Andrea and other YSPNetworkers,
Good questions! I can't speak to ASIST's safeTALK as I have not had the training. I can say that the high quality of their 2-day ASIST training and serious commitment to ongoing program development, training, and trainer development leads me to expect it's very well done and that the training is excellent.
I am an ASIST trainer for the 2-day training and I also am a QPR trainer, so I can speak more to QPR than to safeTalk. QPR (for Question, Persuade, Refer) is well-developed and has been used for many years across the country. It's more accessible than safeTALK in that people can take a self-study course to become a trainer of QPR (for $495) or can take the course individually online or through an interactive web-based cd for for ($29.95). They also can get college credit through Eastern Washington University. Any charge for the course will vary with the instructor, but it will be less than $60/person.
QPR also has developed a training with and for Native Americans. Their course has been translated into Spanish and Korean, with Hebrew and Japanese translations in process. Trainers need to be bi-lingual as other materials are in English.
QPR has 2 other trainings: (1) QPR Suicide Triage for first responders and professionals who assess and refer potentially suicidal persons and (2) QPRT Suicide Risk Assessment for professionals who evaluate and treat potentially suicide persons. These are online, self-paced courses, which you can take for college credit, no credit, or CEU's. Each course is $229 for 1 university college credit and $149 for no credit or CEU's.
ASIST's safeTalk is very scripted, whereas the QPR trainers have a great deal of latitude in how they present the program as long as they cover the material. QPR can be taught in 1-3 hours; I want at least 2 hours so participants have time to practice and to ask questions. These can be pros and cons, depending on the situation.
I like QPR very much and I will do QPR trainings in Oregon if one or more participants agrees to take the training course and become a trainer, thus building this valuable resource for your own community.
The purpose of both programs is to enable people to be able to recognize signs of suicidality, talk to the person, ask about suicidality, and get help for them, which is a vital role in suicide prevention. The more people trained in intervention skills the better for Oregon's suicide prevention efforts.
I hope this adds food for thought to the discussion. I will copy this email to Kathy White at QPR Institute (www.qprinstitute.com) in Spokane, Washington and you may contact her directly with specific questions if you like. I'll be happy to answer questions you might have for me as well.
Thanks for asking! Thank everyone for your attention to youth suicide prevention!
Donna G. Noonan, MPH, CHES
Youth Suicide Prevention Coordinator
Injury Prevention & Epidemiology Program
Oregon Public Health
800 NE Oregon, Ste 772
Portland, OR 97232
NEW PHONE NO.: Phone: 971-673-1023
NEW FAX NO. Fax 971-673-0990
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>>> "Andrea J. Tyler" <wvtp at class.oregonvos.net> 05/30/06 10:48 AM >>>
Does anyone know if "safeTALK" an evidence-based, model or best-practice program, either on the Federal or State listing? And how does it compare with QPR, pros and cons?
Andrea Tyler, M.S., C.P.S.
Executive Director - Wallowa Valley Together Project, Inc.
Prevention Coordinator for Wallowa County
PO Box 431 (B~(J 115 N. River Street
Enterprise, OR 97828
wvtp at class.oregonvos.net
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Jill Hollingsworth <jillh at clearwire.net> writes:
Just got back from a LivingWorks conference and was trained in safeTALK,
a new tool to provide caregivers with the skills and confidence to
effectively refer a person at risk for suicide. Unlike the 2 day ASIST
training which is designed to impart skills necessary for intervention,
this training is 2 1/2 - 3 hours and helps sensitize people to risk
factors and to refer.
Here is more info:
Why should I come to safeTALK?
In only a few hours, you will learn how to provide practical help to
persons with thoughts of suicide. Expect to leave safeTALK more willing
and able to perform an important helping role for persons with thoughts
How does safeTALK help prevent suicide?
safeTALK prepares you to be a suicide alert helper. You are aware that
opportunities to help a person with thoughts of suicide are sometimes
missed, dismissed and avoided. You want persons with thoughts to invite
your help. You know the TALK steps (Tell, Ask, Listen and KeepSafe) and
can activate a suicide alert. As a part of the KeepSafe step, you
connect persons with thoughts to persons trained in suicide
intervention. Helpers trained in suicide intervention complete the
helping process or connect the person with more specialized help.
Why use safeTALK to learn to become alert?
A carefully crafted set of helping steps and the use of creative
educational processes make it possible for you and up to 30 others in
your community to leave safeTALK willing and able to be suicide alert
helpers. safeTALK is the result of some twenty years of work at learning
how to develop useful suicide prevention abilities in a short program.
What happens at safeTALK training?
Expect to be challenged. Expect to have feelings. Expect to be hopeful.
See powerful reminders of why it is important to be suicide alert. See
how to activate an alert. Ask questions and enter discussions. Learn
clear and practical information on what to do. Practice the TALK steps.
Conclude with practice in activating a suicide alert.
Why is safeTALK for everyone?
Most persons with thoughts of suicide go unrecognized$BMF(Jven though most
all are, directly or indirectly, requesting help. Without safeTALK
training, these invitations to help are too rarely accepted, or even
noticed. With more suicide alert helpers, more people with thoughts of
suicide will get connected to the intervention help they want.
If you are interested, I will be available to offer this training with a
co-trainer at $60.00 per participant plus expenses. There is a cap of 30
people per workshop. It is recommended to offer this training in an
environment where there are already people trained in ASIST or other
intervention skills training.
Jill Hollingsworth, MA
Looking Glass Youth and Family Services
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