[Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR

Tue May 1 18:55:58 PDT 2018

Thanks for clarifying this, Diedre. OLA does use this list to communicate,
which may be where part of the confusion arises, but anyone who's
interested in Oregon libraries may join this list, regardless of OLA or any
other membership.

OLA communications sent directly via OLA's own methods generally will be
appended with a footer stating that the message was sent from OLA via a
service called MemberClicks. They usually also will only include the
sender's email as a reply-to.

Also, FWIW, OLA as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit also is restricted in its
political speech. It cannot endorse or participate in campaigns for
specific candidates or parties, for instance.

Cheers!
Buzzy Nielsen
OLA President, 2017-18

On Tue, May 1, 2018, 18:42 Diedre Conkling <diedre08 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It really isn’t associated with OLA in any way.  It really is a State
> Library hosted discussion list.  Anyone may subscribe.  I think many people
> tend to think it is an OLA sponsored discussion list but it isn’t.
>
> List information may be found here:
> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/libs-or
>
> I’ve been trying to get verification on what may or may not be posted
> because the site guidelines may lack some clarity.  Arlene sent out a
> message earlier today soliciting comments about the guidelines.  I’m hoping
> this will help clarify thing for everyone.  Maybe they need to put in the
> guidelines that the list is not an OLA discussion list.
>
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:19 PM Ruth Metz <ruthmetz at spiretech.com> wrote:
>
>> Eva is correct that I was a free agent in sending the information that I
>> did about Wallowa County.  I am a member of the OLA and thought this
>> information appropriate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now I am puzzled about the authority and accountability for the
>> listserv.  I have understood that the State Library hosts the site, but I
>> have been under the impression for years that one must be a member of OLA
>> (or other Oregon Library professional association?) to subscribe to the
>> listserv.  And I have thought that it is a communication vehicle of the
>> Oregon Library Association.  Can anyone clarify this definitively?
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully, Ruth Metz
>>
>> *From:* Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On
>> Behalf Of *Cultural Coalition - Calcagno
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:00 AM
>> *To:* Colin Rea <crea at fernridgelibrary.org>; 'Diedre Conkling' <
>> diedre08 at gmail.com>; 'libs-or' <libs-or at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR
>>
>>
>>
>> I love it when someone quotes ORS 260.432!
>>
>> As a now-retired person who used to have pass levies every five years, I
>> will add my 2 cents.
>>
>> The original post seems to have been from Ruth Metz, a consultant and not
>> an employee of Wallowa County.  I think she is free to advocate. Likewise,
>> librarians from other Oregon libraries who offer verbal support or note
>> that they have donated are free to do so because they cannot benefit from
>> the passage or failure of the Wallowa County election. They are not urging
>> people to vote one way or the other – they just said they donated.
>> Technically, neutral statements!
>>
>> We all were extremely supportive on the list-serv of Josephine County’s
>> efforts and equally vocal about the sad demise of Douglas County Library.
>> That seemed OK.  Why is this different?
>>
>>
>>
>> Eva Calcagno, Cultural Coalition of Washington County
>>
>> ccwc at wccls.org
>>
>> 503-846-3274
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> <libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>] *On Behalf Of *Colin Rea
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2018 9:19 AM
>> *To:* 'Diedre Conkling'; 'libs-or'
>> *Subject:* Re: [Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To be clear… I’m not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV.  Dierdre did a
>> better job explaining what I meant (she’s good at that).  What I was
>> referring to about 260.432 was that the list-serve (and possibly other
>> lists maintained by the State Library)  might have been opened up to be
>> used by anyone advocating against the measure, for whatever good that would
>> do them, because of the original message.
>>
>>
>>
>> As someone in a library that must pass a local-option levy every five
>> years, I can’t stop my brain from seeing the campaigning ramifications of
>> any advocacy.  At least, to the point that I can follow them.  Sorry!
>>
>>
>>
>> Colin M. Rea
>>
>> Director, Fern Ridge Library District
>>
>> PO Box 397
>>
>> 88026 Territorial Road
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=88026+Territorial+Road+Veneta,+OR+97487+541&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> Veneta, OR 97487
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=88026+Territorial+Road+Veneta,+OR+97487+541&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> 541
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=88026+Territorial+Road+Veneta,+OR+97487+541&entry=gmail&source=g>.935.7512
>> fax 541.935.8013
>>
>> www.fernridgelibrary.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>> <libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>] *On Behalf Of *Diedre
>> Conkling
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2018 10:23 PM
>> *To:* libs-or
>> *Subject:* [Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The original message was fine. My follow up message encouraging reaching
>> $1,000 might not have been fine.  Libs-or is out of the State Library so we
>> need to follow those rules and they can’t really be changed unless the
>> State Legislature changes the rules.  This is why we use People for Oregon
>> Libraries, which uses the Facebook page for this kind of communication.
>> People for Oregon Libraries doesn’t have a discussion list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Notice, I use my personal email address on this list.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:29 PM Tony <tony_greiner at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Colin Rea pointed out that the recent appeals for support for the Wallowa
>> County Library District might violate Oregon Law, ORS 260.432.  My reading
>> of that law is that government employees  cannot be forced to engage in
>> political activity (no problem here) and appeals for money or
>> support cannot be made while the person who is asking for the support or
>> money is at work in a government position.  So don't ask on the job.  I
>> don't see anything about reading the messages on the job.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for the Libs-OR rule (who knew Libs-OR had rules?)...it's time to
>> change that rule.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Greiner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Primo and Alma: Making WorldCat Local Look Good
>>
>> **tony_greiner at hotmail.com**
>>
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>> *Diedre Conkling*
>>
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