[Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR

Tue May 1 19:04:08 PDT 2018

Just an added note, People for Oregon Libraries PAC is setup to address
political issues of all kinds.  Unfortunately, there is no discussion list
but there is a Facebook page,
https://www.facebook.com/PeopleforOregonLibrariesPAC.  The PAC is set up to
do political things supporting libraries in Oregon.

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:56 PM Buzzy Nielsen, OLA President <
olapresident at olaweb.org> wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying this, Diedre. OLA does use this list to communicate,
> which may be where part of the confusion arises, but anyone who's
> interested in Oregon libraries may join this list, regardless of OLA or any
> other membership.
>
> OLA communications sent directly via OLA's own methods generally will be
> appended with a footer stating that the message was sent from OLA via a
> service called MemberClicks. They usually also will only include the
> sender's email as a reply-to.
>
> Also, FWIW, OLA as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit also is restricted in its
> political speech. It cannot endorse or participate in campaigns for
> specific candidates or parties, for instance.
>
> Cheers!
> Buzzy Nielsen
> OLA President, 2017-18
>
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018, 18:42 Diedre Conkling <diedre08 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It really isn’t associated with OLA in any way.  It really is a State
>> Library hosted discussion list.  Anyone may subscribe.  I think many people
>> tend to think it is an OLA sponsored discussion list but it isn’t.
>>
>> List information may be found here:
>> http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/libs-or
>>
>> I’ve been trying to get verification on what may or may not be posted
>> because the site guidelines may lack some clarity.  Arlene sent out a
>> message earlier today soliciting comments about the guidelines.  I’m hoping
>> this will help clarify thing for everyone.  Maybe they need to put in the
>> guidelines that the list is not an OLA discussion list.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:19 PM Ruth Metz <ruthmetz at spiretech.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Eva is correct that I was a free agent in sending the information that I
>>> did about Wallowa County.  I am a member of the OLA and thought this
>>> information appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now I am puzzled about the authority and accountability for the
>>> listserv.  I have understood that the State Library hosts the site, but I
>>> have been under the impression for years that one must be a member of OLA
>>> (or other Oregon Library professional association?) to subscribe to the
>>> listserv.  And I have thought that it is a communication vehicle of the
>>> Oregon Library Association.  Can anyone clarify this definitively?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectfully, Ruth Metz
>>>
>>> *From:* Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Cultural Coalition - Calcagno
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:00 AM
>>> *To:* Colin Rea <crea at fernridgelibrary.org>; 'Diedre Conkling' <
>>> diedre08 at gmail.com>; 'libs-or' <libs-or at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I love it when someone quotes ORS 260.432!
>>>
>>> As a now-retired person who used to have pass levies every five years, I
>>> will add my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> The original post seems to have been from Ruth Metz, a consultant and
>>> not an employee of Wallowa County.  I think she is free to advocate.
>>> Likewise, librarians from other Oregon libraries who offer verbal support
>>> or note that they have donated are free to do so because they cannot
>>> benefit from the passage or failure of the Wallowa County election. They
>>> are not urging people to vote one way or the other – they just said they
>>> donated.  Technically, neutral statements!
>>>
>>> We all were extremely supportive on the list-serv of Josephine County’s
>>> efforts and equally vocal about the sad demise of Douglas County Library.
>>> That seemed OK.  Why is this different?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eva Calcagno, Cultural Coalition of Washington County
>>>
>>> ccwc at wccls.org
>>>
>>> 503-846-3274
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>> <libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>] *On Behalf Of *Colin Rea
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2018 9:19 AM
>>> *To:* 'Diedre Conkling'; 'libs-or'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To be clear… I’m not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV.  Dierdre did a
>>> better job explaining what I meant (she’s good at that).  What I was
>>> referring to about 260.432 was that the list-serve (and possibly other
>>> lists maintained by the State Library)  might have been opened up to be
>>> used by anyone advocating against the measure, for whatever good that would
>>> do them, because of the original message.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As someone in a library that must pass a local-option levy every five
>>> years, I can’t stop my brain from seeing the campaigning ramifications of
>>> any advocacy.  At least, to the point that I can follow them.  Sorry!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Colin M. Rea
>>>
>>> Director, Fern Ridge Library District
>>>
>>> PO Box 397
>>>
>>> 88026 Territorial Road
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=88026+Territorial+Road+Veneta,+OR+97487+541&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> Veneta, OR 97487
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=88026+Territorial+Road+Veneta,+OR+97487+541&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> 541
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=88026+Territorial+Road+Veneta,+OR+97487+541&entry=gmail&source=g>.935.7512
>>> fax 541.935.8013
>>>
>>> www.fernridgelibrary.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Libs-Or [mailto:libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us
>>> <libs-or-bounces at listsmart.osl.state.or.us>] *On Behalf Of *Diedre
>>> Conkling
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2018 10:23 PM
>>> *To:* libs-or
>>> *Subject:* [Libs-Or] Fwd: Political Messages on Libs-OR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The original message was fine. My follow up message encouraging reaching
>>> $1,000 might not have been fine.  Libs-or is out of the State Library so we
>>> need to follow those rules and they can’t really be changed unless the
>>> State Legislature changes the rules.  This is why we use People for Oregon
>>> Libraries, which uses the Facebook page for this kind of communication.
>>> People for Oregon Libraries doesn’t have a discussion list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Notice, I use my personal email address on this list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:29 PM Tony <tony_greiner at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Colin Rea pointed out that the recent appeals for support for the
>>> Wallowa County Library District might violate Oregon Law, ORS 260.432.  My
>>> reading of that law is that government employees  cannot be forced to
>>> engage in political activity (no problem here) and appeals for money or
>>> support cannot be made while the person who is asking for the support or
>>> money is at work in a government position.  So don't ask on the job.  I
>>> don't see anything about reading the messages on the job.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As for the Libs-OR rule (who knew Libs-OR had rules?)...it's time to
>>> change that rule.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Greiner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Primo and Alma: Making WorldCat Local Look Good
>>>
>>> **tony_greiner at hotmail.com**
>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Diedre Conkling*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Lincoln County Library DistrictP.O. Box 2027Newport, OR 97365Phone &
>>> Fax: 541-265-3066Work email**: **diedre at lincolncolibrarydist.org*
>>> <diedre at lincolncolibrarydist.org>
>>> *Home email: **diedre08 at gmail.com* <diedre08 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> “If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change
>>> your attitude.”―Maya Angelou
>>>
>> --
>> *Diedre Conkling*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Lincoln County Library DistrictP.O. Box 2027Newport, OR 97365Phone &
>> Fax: 541-265-3066Work email**: **diedre at lincolncolibrarydist.org*
>> <diedre at lincolncolibrarydist.org>
>> *Home email: **diedre08 at gmail.com* <diedre08 at gmail.com>
>>
>> “If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change
>> your attitude.”―Maya Angelou
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-- 
*Diedre Conkling*

*Lincoln County Library DistrictP.O. Box 2027Newport, OR 97365Phone & Fax:
541-265-3066Work email**: **diedre at lincolncolibrarydist.org*
<diedre at lincolncolibrarydist.org>
*Home email: **diedre08 at gmail.com* <diedre08 at gmail.com>

“If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change
your attitude.”―Maya Angelou
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