[or-roots] Where are the McVays?

Sue Steward ssteward at ccountry.net
Mon Jan 17 21:05:31 PST 2005 

About the right age for your John but it doesn't quite fit the census info.

"Pioneer History of Coos and Curry Counties" Orville Dodge, Historian

McVay, John was born in Ireland, June 23, 1833, and came to Curry Co., OR in
1870 and settled near Gold Beach.  His wife's maiden name was Mary A.
McCreery, born in Ireland in 1849. and they have four children.  Mr McVay is
a stone and brick mason, but has a ranch also.

"Pistol river and Hunter's creek, south of Gold Beach, afford considerable
bottom lands, which are fertile, but the whole country is more suitable for
stock raising, than other purposes. ... The Cooleges and McVeys and others
have excellent farms in this locality. ..."

Sue
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leslie Chapman" <khanjehgil at presys.com>
To: <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: [or-roots] Where are the McVays?


> Sorry; I always forget that that little detail doesn't show up, those are
> 1880 Censuses. These are taken from the LDS Family Search index, so have
to
> be taken with a grain of salt, Harttey under JN is actually Hartley for
> instance, but in this case the transcription is quite good which means the
> images must be pretty fair.
>
> It just registered with me as I was keying these folks in that John is
> probably in California as that is where his first born is born. So I will
> have to hammer away at the California McVays some more in the 1860 Census.
I
> never ceases to amaze me how many of my Crescent city Kin have spent time
in
> Oregon and then gone back, must be a pretty good place to live to leave
> heavon on earth for it!
>
> LEs C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
> [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Sue Steward
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:31 AM
> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
> Subject: Re: [or-roots] Where are the McVays?
>
>
> So Les, what year is this census in Del Norte County?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leslie Chapman" <khanjehgil at presys.com>
> To: "Oregon List" <or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us>
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:20 PM
> Subject: [or-roots] Where are the McVays?
>
>
> > Well folks did so good for Bob, I have a poser for you. I have these two
> > families apparently in Oregon around 1860 and cannot find hide nor hair
of
> > either of them, I have searched based solely on place of birth, to
> hopefully
> > rule out surname variation. Of course maybe they report different places
> of
> > birth in different Censuses? I have tried several other tacks, and
googled
> > them to no avail. JAJ is particularly frustrating as I am sure he must
> have
> > been in Oregon in 1860, I believe I have even eliminated the possibility
> > that they still hadn't come west by then and still no luck?
> >
> > Les Chapman khanjehgil at presys.com
> >
> > James;
> >
> > . A. J. MCVAY   Self   M   Male   W   51   TN   Butcher   TN   TN
> >  Lucinda G. MCVAY   Wife   M   Female   W   37   MO   Keeping House   OH
> > OH
> >  Ella MCVAY   Dau   S   Female   W   19   OR   At Home   TN   MO
> >  Nathaniel MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   16   OR   At School   TN   MO
> >  Asa MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   13   CA   At School   TN   MO
> >  Lilla MCVAY   Dau   S   Female   W   10   CA   At School   TN   MO
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > ----
> > Source Information:
> >   Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California
> >   Family History Library Film   1254065
> >   NA Film Number   T9-0065
> >   Page Number   21D
> >
> > * * * * * * * * *
> >
> > John;
> >
> >  Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation
> > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
> >  J. N. MCVAY   Self   M   Male   W   45   IA   Farmer   TN   TN
> >  Martha J. MCVAY   Wife   M   Female   W   37   TN   Keeping House   IA
> TN
> >  John N. MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   19   CA   Dairy Hand   TN   TN
> >  Daniel H. MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   17   OR   At School   IA   TN
> >  Harttey E. MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   16   OR   At School   IA   TN
> >  Martha L. MCVAY   Dau   S   Female   W   14   OR   At School   IA   TN
> >  James H. MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   12   OR   At School   IA   TN
> >  Elizabeth E. MCVAY   Dau   S   Female   W   10   OR   At School   IA
TN
> >  Samuel MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   8   OR   At School   IA   TN
> >  Seward MCVAY   Son   S   Male   W   3   CA   At Home   IA   TN
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > ----
> > Source Information:
> >   Census Place Smith River, Del Norte, California
> >   Family History Library Film   1254065
> >   NA Film Number   T9-0065
> >   Page Number   21D
> >
> > I do have both of them in 1870, John is in Empire City which is listed
as
> > being in Curry Co??? Oregon, and James is in Smith River California with
a
> > few dozen of my other cousins.
> >
> > What I am curious about, are they in fact brothers? And are any of the
> other
> > McVays floating around Del Norte Co., Ca. in late 19th to early 20
century
> > related? Except for the Canadians, most of them list Tennessee for place
> of
> > birth of both parents, which makes me think there is  a connection.
> >
> > Les C
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