[or-roots] Another Hardwick genealogist

[E V Barnes]

I recall reading somewhere that the OR. legislature about 1880 passed a 
law requirng vital statistics to be reported to one cenrtal agency, but that
it was not until about 1930 that most counties finally complies.  My gr.
grandfather died in 1905, and it was not until we obtained his pension
records that we were able to ascterain his actual date of death.  But we
do not know where - he lived in Bayview and is buried in the Union 
Cemetery, Cedar Mill, many miles away.  No death certificate, funeral
record or news item.

You might want to check the archives now, since on line they have been
setting forth delayed vital records.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Harguess, Dale 
  To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:39 AM
  Subject: RE: [or-roots] Another Hardwick genealogist


  Thanks, I am of the opinion that they just didn't have death records in Oregon that early.  My great great grandfather died there in 1909 and there is no record of his death.  I do have a copy of his will though and that is priceless in the way he distributed his property and money.  It really tells a lot about his relationships with his children.

  Dale



  -----Original Message-----
  From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie Chapman
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 6:40 PM
  To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
  Subject: [or-roots] Another Hardwick genealogist



  Dale;

  I too tried Oregon state archives for Verna and her mother and father and came up null, there are some Hardwicks in the index, but no amount of twisting around of the names you have would arrive at anything like them except one Maud A married to some Culver and a Lu Verne Althea that appears there three or four times. For future reference the search link is;

  http://genealogy.state.or.us/start.lasso?location=search

  and at the bottom of the page are some links that will take you to pages that will tell you how to order stuff and so forth.

  now to the other genealogist, I googled you mystery kin and found the following fellow;

  Raleigh E. Emry
  12602 Scissortail Drive
  Manchaca, Texas 78652
  (512) 282-9269

  who seems to be citing the person that was already mentioned as having info;

  59. Lee, Bernadine, 1910 N.E. Weidler, Portland, Oregon 97232. Series of Family Group Sheets in files of Joseph Philip Barnes. The source is presumed to be: Bernadine Lee, 1910 N.E. Weidler, Portland, Oregon 97232.

  Okay after much consternation I determined that this Lee is not the other person who Sue found for you, so now you have two more leads to share information with. I will paste in the page with Verna on it in a minute, after i convert this to html.

  Oh, your comment was correct too, most folks think we chat too much, but as some folks have said, much of that chat is valid in that it fills in blanks, and it also ocasionally inspires some timid soul to venture a query where in a more "formal" list they might be afraid to.

  Les C

  527. Venus Howell (59). Flags: Foreign Born=N 

  Venus Howell and Noah Hardwick had the following children: 

  1181 i. Verna Marie Hardwick(59) died in Dec. 

  Venus Howell and Selden Flynn had the following children: 

  +1182 i. Clifford Flynn. 
  +1183 ii. Katherine Flynn. 
  +1184 iii. Genevieve Flynn. 
  +1185 iv. Selda Flynn. 

  Venus Howell and J. Ernest Chedare had the following children: 

  1186 i. Ruth Chedare(59) died in Dec.


  I will try to do a query and I hope someone out there can help me.  I am trying to find a death record for a child named Verna Marie Hardwick.  I think she died sometime between 1915 and 1919.  She was the child of Noah Hardwick and Versey Venus Howell.  She was born Sept. 11, 1914 in Oregon, but I don't know where.  I also would like to have an actual record of her birth as this date was given to me by a volunteer at the Blue Mountain Genealogical Society and she didn't tell me where she got it..
  Dale in California 
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