[or-roots] Brickwalls

Sun Mar 19 14:21:38 PST 2006

My Brickwall has been my Great Grandfather, he came to Oregon in about 1853 with Issac I Stevens.
His bio says he was born in Genesee County Ny. in 1833, 1870 Idaho census say's born in New Hampshire, and the death certificate for his Daughter my grandmother says Mass., have been unsuccessful so far in finding him or his Parents, who I am really trying to find, in the 1850 or 1840 census.
Glen Portland, Or. 

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Glen A. Jones

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From: "Gary Murray" <gmurray1 at cox.net> 

> i am one of the fortunate ones. my hutchinson line was a brick wall for 
> about 25 yrs. then out of the b lue 3 very nice ladies filled me in on this 
> line. now this was a line that a distant cousin of mine had all the time. 
> he lived in seattle. he would not share anything. i am such a believer in 
> sharing everything that i have. i sent a lady most all of my bonney line 
> back to adam and eve and she either gave it or sold it to ancestry.com. all 
> of a sudden it was all over the internet. i just didn't care. if she 
> gleaned all there was for her out of it then to me it was worth it. i have 
> spent hundreds of dollars to see if i could get my data and all the pics i 
> have out to anyone that wanted them. i will continue to do so. my 
> hutchinson line went back to elijah dow hutchinson and his birth in 1824 in 
> ohio. that is all i had and now thanks to those ladies i have a ton of data 
> and charts and a little of everything. i have been in az. 4 years and i 
> hope to return to oregon this year where i can continue to research and give 
> my time. i personally would like to see everyone do this about once a year. 
> if each person finds one male in their line and only half find wives w/ 
> maiden names, just stop and think how many of us that would benefit. i have 
> every child of jarius and dr. truman bonney. on dr. truman that is as far 
> as i cared to go since it is jarius who is my direct. these people had 
> 12-14 children and most of them married. same goes for elijah d. 
> hutchinson. i do remember the stories on most of these people but i turned 
> down thousands of pics because they were not my direct line. i have always 
> felt that more people need to "share" rather than worry about giving away 
> their hard work. [just my personal opinion] at the moment my gene. program 
> will not allow me to copy anything to paper or disk. but when its fixed, 
> after i move, then all are welcome to anything i have. i have found a 
> copying place that will do the pics. all i have ever asked is that i am 
> paid for my outlay of cash. soma do and soma don't. 
> gary in az. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leslie Chapman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:44 PM 
> Subject: [or-roots] Brickwalls redux 
> 
> 
> >I can understand your frustration Karla, but just let me give you an 
> >example 
> > of why mosts lists like to do this little thing, even though it drives a 
> > lot 
> > of folks nuts who have signed up, often without realizing they have 
> > volunteered to recieve unspecified quantities of email from total 
> > strangers 
> > [and boy are some of us strange] in their inbox. 
> > 
> > Mosts lists call it simply "Roll Call" the Wheeler list which is another 
> > list I am on that has historically been very active though has been slow 
> > of 
> > late, as much as a week going by without a post, as opposed to my Pierce 
> > list which was dissolved because the host refused to allot space to a list 
> > that only got a post every year or two. 
> > 
> > My point is that there may be a Newbie out there who is sitting on their 
> > grand-dad's diary that they just happened to look at last week again and 
> > wondered who the heck all of thos John Smiths were in Podunk that came to 
> > Boring with grandpa, now if it happens to be John smith, John Smith Jr. 
> > and 
> > John Smith the third from Podunk that moved to Boring with "your grandpa" 
> > and you posted that question last year and Mr Newbie isn't curious enough 
> > about these folks to do a google or whatever on them, the two of you might 
> > not connect, but if Mr Newbie has been lurking here for the last three 
> > months and you repost your John Smiths and the name resonate with him 
> > enough 
> > for him to dig out the diary and reread it, you might have the proverbial 
> > "Gold Mine" 
> > 
> > My personal brick wall is who was the Mrs Barnes that nursed my great 
> > grandfather Milan Morell Melvin through an epidemic on the Wagon Train to 
> > Wherever the heck they first came to (first inof we have hard knowedge is 
> > thier residing in Del Norte Co Cal, but no wagon train terminus near 
> > there??) 
> > 
> > But back to my story [now you can see why every tiime I open my mouth at 
> > family gatherings somebody stuffs my foot in it] 
> > I came on here a year or two ago in answer to a similar complaint about 
> > why 
> > repost and I threw out one of my dead ends by example, just like the above 
> > Mrs Barnes story and one of the people on the list googled my question and 
> > there was my answer. Of course I could have gotten that one myself, but I 
> > had Googled and dogpiled and ship listed and etc the same problem for 
> > hours 
> > and hours over a period of years and come up blank. 
> > 
> > This of course isn't the best example of why we should have a "roll call" 
> > now and then, but I think you can see my point, I was totally frustrated 
> > with that particular fact, had in fact given up on it over a year before 
> > and 
> > just threw it out there as an example of how frustrating some things can 
> > be 
> > and was kindly handed a large helping of crow so to speak. 
> > 
> > So by all means, repost that question, the other thing you have to 
> > consider 
> > is that some of us have resources that we are either too busy or too lazy 
> > to 
> > use except on whim, and maybe all of us missed you previous post, or were 
> > too busy, but maybe you can catch us with free time, which it looks like I 
> > have a lot of but actually don't because wifey has been hovering in the 
> > background wiht a list of honeydos since I got on here this morning, but 
> > if 
> > you post it, I promise within a week I will take a stab at it. 
> > 
> > Les C 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
> > [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of 
> > karfranw at juno.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:28 AM 
> > To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us 
> > Subject: Re: [or-roots] OREGON ONLY NAMES AND BRICK WALLS 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello, the above idea, is all well and good, I agree. But, some members 
> > of 
> > my family have already done research on the family name, and have hit 
> > brickwalls no matter where they search. And as far as when this errant 
> > antecedent of ours reached Oregon, it is anyone's guess. I could tell you 
> > the story but already submitted that when I first subscribed to this 
> > list. 
> > My brothers and I have come to a conclusion, the old guy was lying through 
> > his teeth about 
> > his name, because of circumstances. We don't have a clue as to what to do 
> > now. 
> > 
> > Sincerely, 
> > 
> > Karla (Gray) Williams 
> > 
> > 
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