[or-roots] Aliquot Parts
Kith-n-Kin
Kith-n-Kin at cox.net
Fri Mar 24 09:03:46 PST 2006
Bea and all
I forgot to say last evening that I have the 1878 plat as well, which actually shows the Casey farm. I
will send it in a separate e-mail.
For everyone, I should alert you to these map "opportunities."
The University of Oregon, Knight Library has, on its website, township plat maps of Oregon counties by
township. Once you know what township something is in, you can look there. The collection is described as
"Digital Copies of the Cadastral Survey Maps for Oregon, produced by the General Land Office in the 19th
and 20th centuries." Go to: http://libweb.uoregon.edu/map/GIS/Data/Oregon/Quadrant_1.htm There you can
click on a "quadrant" and see what maps are available. Fascinating stuff. The maps are zipped, and I
recommend making a folder for them and saving each to the folder. I went nuts when I tried another way.
<no comments required, nor accepted>
This is where I got the map I sent Bea last night. Now, Bea, you can get a clean copy.
For other interesting maps, see http://libweb.uoregon.edu/map/
For modern "property maps" go to http://www.ormap.org/, click on the left on Cartography, "maps online"
and go from there. After you click on Marion County, then on 05s01w, you find a whole bunch of choices on
the map list on the right. As it happens, you are looking for 051w05.pdf (the last "05" is the section
number).
In this case, you will find the Casey claim in a part called "D" -- so you also want to look at
051w05d.pdf. If you go to the left edge, finding the Casey claim, you will see, "See map 051205c". When
you get that map, you will see most of the claim. Then, you will want to look at section 6. The left side
of "C" shows you to go to 051w06D.
I don't know about the golf course, it must be reflected here somewhere. Maybe you can compare these to a
modern map? I did the sat image overlay with twp 6s1w to determine who the "real" originators of Mt Angel
were (well, I knew, but wanted to verify who lived where -- an interesting story). It was very difficult
to lay the township grid on the sat image. If it weren't for the Allen farm, conveniently not square and
not on 90 degree angles, still shaped the same way, I'd never have gotten it done. It was very interesting
to see the difference between the original settled claims, and the 1878 owners. Mostly the same people,
but children bought property from Uncle Henry, etc. And, then everyone sold to the Catholics for the
seminary, and hardly anyone farmed anymore, I guess.
This is really quite a bit of fun, and I highly recommend it instead of hanging about in bars and other
questionable places. <G>
By the way, for Ronda(?) who was trying to find a physical address from a Rural Route? The above maps may
help, in conjunction with the tax information, if you have it.
Pat
|-----Original Message-----
|From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
|[mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of
|Beatrice C Emerson
|Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 21:46
|To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
|Subject: Re: [or-roots] Aliquot Parts
|
|
|To Pat (in Tucson) - and Les,
|
|Thank you so very much for the Plat map, and the Natualization
|information for James Casey. I don't quite know where to get
|the petition or application - perhaps the County Court, but that's the
|next step in my research.
|
|And, Les, after reading your description - more than once - I
|think that I understand it pretty well - but I am confused
|about the crops between the fairways,
|
|I hesitate to ask for anything else, but putting this on
|a regular map or an aerial view would be fantastic! If that
|is too big a request, please forget I even mentioned it. Living in
|San Jose, CA, it's hard to for me to picture Tukwila Drive!
|
|Now I'm sure that I am geospatially challenged!
|
|Thank you so very much for what you have done for me!
|
|Bea
|
|
|On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:02:41 -0700 "Kith-n-Kin" <Kith-n-Kin at cox.net>
|writes:
|> I have platted this on a PDF for Bea.
|>
|> Bea, I'll send it separately.
|>
|> Here's what the DLC book says about your Caseys.
|> No. 2470 CASEY, James, Marion Co; b abt 1830, Ireland; Arr. Ore. 1
|> Sept
|> 1854; S[ettled] C[laim] 11 Mar 1854; m Ellen (not in time to claim
|> land for
|> wife). Nat. Cit. 9 Jun 1855, Marion co, Ore. T. Geo. H. Williams,
|> Judge, E.
|> J. Harding, Clk, Jno. McCracken, Marshall. Aff: Randles Hurley,
|> Thomas
|> Fitszerald, Mathew McCormick.
|>
|> I think you're going to want to get a copy of the application.
|> Sounds a bit
|> more interesting than the average bear.
|>
|> Pat (in Tucson)
|>
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
|> [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us] On Behalf Of Leslie
|> Chapman
|> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:35 PM
|> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
|> Subject: RE: [or-roots] Aliquot Parts
|>
|> Bea, I am going to try and use an answer I gave another lister to
|> give you a
|> short answer to your question, so If something doesn't make sense,
|> it is
|> because this was originally an answer to another question;
|>
|> You asked for it;
|>
|> Aliquot
|> Parts Sec./ Block Township Range Fract. Section Meridian
|> State
|> Counties Survey Nr.
|> 3 5/ 5-S 1-W No Willamette
|> OR
|> Marion
|> Remarks: LOT 3 OF S HALF OF SW
|> 1 6/ 5-S 1-W No Willamette OR
|> Marion
|> Remarks: LOT 1 OR SESE QUARTER
|> 2 6/ 5-S 1-W No Willamette OR
|> Marion
|> Remarks: LOT 2 OR SWSE QUARTER
|>
|> Now I am sure the next thing you are going to ask is what the heck
|> is that?
|>
|> If you really want to know go to;
|> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/Visitors/PLSS.asp
|>
|> but I will explain where this is, first what it is; it
|> is found in township 5 south Range 1 West, Williamette Meridian,
|> what that
|> means is it is in the block of 36 sections, each of which are
|> approximately
|> one mile
|> square that is found about between 24 miles and 30 mile south of and
|> and
|> between 0 and 6 miles west of the "Willamette Stone" which is
|> located
|> somewhere around Salem,[correction, I just looked it up, it is in
|> Portland,
|> my
|> apologies to anyone who got mislead by that statement, I don't know
|> why I
|> can't
|> remember where it is i know somebody in here gave me the exact
|> location
|> once, but it is
|> in a park in the "Y" where Skyline drive branches off of Burnside in
|> SW
|> portland.
|> just remember your high school algebra and we are talking X and Y
|> axis
|> stuff, Y being the Townships and X the Ranges. anyway in that
|> block[township
|> being 6 miles by 6 miles] section 5 and 6 are found in the
|> top row of the block and are four to six miles from the east side
|> of the block; kinda like this;
|>
|> _ _ _
|> 6|5|_| _|_|_
|> 9|10|_|_
|> 15
|>
|> Okay, this is not making a whole lot of sense, I have mentioned in
|> here
|> before that the Donation Land Claim act made a mess of the section,
|> township
|> and range allotment of the state of Oregon, I had never looked that
|> close at
|> the salem area before, I just saw section 80 in the course of
|> looking for
|> Bea's ancestors. there are whole townships in the Salem area that
|> are
|> impossible to recognize as such because none of the section lines
|> are where
|> they are supposed to be, not even the range lines, which is what we
|> call the
|> lines between townships.
|>
|> what we should be looking at is something like this;
|> when it says S half of the SW it means you take the square mile that
|> is
|> section 5 and you find the four points around the outside that are
|> called
|> quarter corners because they are used to break the section into four
|> parts,
|> these should be roughly half a mile from each corner, on a more or
|> less
|> straigh line between them and the corners, then you run a line from
|> each one
|> to the one directly opposite from it and you have broken the section
|> into 4
|> more or less equal portions roughly a half mile on a side, you do
|> the same
|> thing to each of those quarters and you get four "forties" which are
|> roughly
|> 1/4 mile on a side and called forties because on a flat earth they
|> would be
|> exactly forty acres in size.
|>
|> So back to Bea's ancestors homestead description, I should find in
|> section 5
|> and 6 in Township five south Range 1West, Willamette Meridian that
|> the SW
|> quarter [lower left if you are geospatially challenged] it should be
|> at
|> least broken into two halves, the lower or S half belong to them,
|> moving
|> west the Southeast of the Southeast and the Southwest of the
|> Southeast,
|> section 6 would be the two forties directly west of the above. What
|> I am
|> finding is a meandered lot in the southwest corner of section five
|> that
|> looks to be maybe fifty acres, labled 5 and a block in section six
|> postion
|> labled 6 that looks to me like it would add up to the rest of the
|> acreage
|> claimed in the above description, coming from where section 8
|> roughly should
|> be is a block of property labled 50 [remember in the perfect world
|> each
|> township has 36 sections] and what I am surmising is the record we
|> find on
|> line is what they filed on, but someone with a prior claim had
|> already
|> staked out the southeast quarter of the southwest quarter of section
|> five
|> after a fashion. I say after a fashion because the lines around
|> most of
|> that block have very little in common with the regular survey grid
|> system is
|> that they are both on the ground.
|>
|> As to where this is, go to Woodburn, get on Boones Ferry road and
|> turn right
|> on Tukwila Drive to the end and look north, you will be looking at
|> approximately the middle of the homestead as I have interpreted it
|> above,
|> actually at that point, unless the brown strip at the end of the
|> street on
|> Google earth is new construction, yo will be just south of a ppoint
|> on the
|> south line of the property some f to 8 hundred feet west of the
|> southeast
|> corner of section six. If the Brown in new construction, you will
|> be
|> standing practically on that corner and should see some kind of
|> reference to
|> it around.
|>
|> Oh, by the way, I believe you will also be looking at a golf course.
|> What
|> has my curious up is whether the row crops growing between the
|> fairways is
|> still being harvested or not??
|>
|> Anyway if you would like a map or aerial photo of this it isn't
|> that
|> difficult to do.
|>
|> Les C
|>
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
|> [mailto:or-roots-admin at sosinet.sos.state.or.us]On Behalf Of Beatrice
|> C
|> Emerson
|> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:43 AM
|> To: or-roots at sosinet.sos.state.or.us
|> Subject: [or-roots] Aliquot Parts
|>
|>
|> Hi Les,
|> I am new to the list, and I must admit that I am a bit
|overwhelmed at
|> the number of messages that come through - BUT - I have learned so
|> much about Oregon in the past four days that it is now my #1 read.
|>
|> I am confused about aliquot parts, and would appreciate help to find
|> just where this land actually is. The patentees were James and
|> Ellen Casey. There were 3 aliquot parts, all in Township 5-S,
|> Range
|> 1-W, Willamette Meridian, Marion County.
|>
|> Aliquot 3 was in Sec./Block 5. The remark listed was Lot 3 of S
|> Half of
|> SW
|> Aliquots 1 and 2 were in Sec./Block 6. The remarks for Aliquot l
|> was
|> Lot 1 or SESE Quarter. The remarks for Aliquot 2 was Lot 2 or
|> SWSE Quarter.
|>
|> I also have a question. Is there a website that lists the names of
|> the
|> various
|> townships? Example: What township is 5-S?
|>
|> Thanks, Les, for your generous offer of help. It is appreciated.
|>
|> Bea
|>
|>
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