[or-roots] Diamond Ranch, Oregon

Wed Aug 20 08:32:30 PDT 2008

Glen
I'm glad your ancestor has received proper credit in some history  books.  I 
probably saw the Robie name when we took a loop tour of the  Malheur Wildlife 
Refuge last year and and went to see the Diamond  area.  My sister-in-law's 
sister-in-law (that's not a typo!) works  at the Diamond Hotel.  The bird museum 
there is wonderful, but not as well  kept as it used to be.  We stopped at a 
store on that loop that has  ranch related articles and lots of good western 
books.  

In 1980, my father-in-law gave us Mildretta Adams' book: "Owyhee Cattlemen  
1878 - 1978, 199 Years In The Saddle."  I just now pulled it from my  bookshelf 
& found good information on A. H. Robie on page 189, along  with the ranch 
photo. Eastern Oregonians will always be grateful to  Mildretta Adams and Mike 
Hanley for putting our side of Oregon down on paper for  posterity.  These 
authors show a passion for our  history. 

My father-in-law, Don Stults was born in La Grande and moved with his  family 
to Jordan Valley in 1917 to homestead on the dry land high  desert.  The last 
of that family sold the ranch a few years ago, but we had  one fun family 
reunion there some time ago, while all but one of the  siblings was living.  One 
of the aunties said that 10 acres  of Treasure Valley soil produced much 
better than 100 acres of the Jordan Valley  homestead.  You can't beat the Jordan 
Valley people and boy do they turn  out for a former J. V. person's funeral!

That Murphy, Idaho Museum and book store is a good one.  We went  there this 
year, and we couldn't resist buying Mike Hanley's newer book -  it's at our 
cabin now, and I can't remember it's name.  Mike's  other passion is researching 
& acurately restoring old stage  coaches.  He drives them in parades and has 
participated in wagon train  recreations.  Mike's an amazing guy.

Gerrie

Gerrie

In a message dated 8/20/2008 7:42:54 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Gerrie
Just to set the record straight, a number of history books for the area  have 
the correct info on the Diamond Area, I also have copies of the probate  
records thanks to Sandy Flory, Oregon geographic names when the 8th edition  comes 
out will have corrected information about the Diamond Area and Ft.  (Camp) 
Harney also.
Glen

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Glen A. Jones

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From: Cuprum4445 at aol.com 
It's frustrating when history gets recorded wrong, especially  about our 
families.  People quote poorly researched histories, without  citing primary 
sources, and they're trusted by people.  We genealogists  know to check original 
sources, but it's hard to change written  "histories."  I don't know of any way 
of setting records straight,  other than writing our own family history and 
incorporating our  documentation.  Even if we do that though, our books  
wouldn't be read by very many people.  

Glen should be able to obtain land records to prove his ancestor Albert  Hugh 
Robie was Mace McCoy's partner in the Diamond Ranch endeavor.  I'm  sure I've 
heard the Robie name in connection with Harney County history  before.  We've 
been to the Diamond area and we were pleased to learn  from Glen how the area 
got it's name from the cattle brand.  There  might be an old cattle brand 
book in Harney County showing the Diamond brand  and it's owners.

How can we correct mistakes in history?  What do you listers  suggest we do 
with situations like Glen's  problem?         Gerrie

In a message dated 8/17/2008 5:18:54 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

For all that may be interested the history on the Diamond hotel is  not 
entirely correct, Mace McCoy was a partner of my Great Grandfather  Albert Hugh 
Robie,Albert bought out Mace and was selling to Pete French  when he died, he was 
one of the men with Pete French and his cowhands when  attacked by the 
Bannocks at the start of that war, the Diamond was the  cattle brand that Mace and 
Albert Had and that is where the Diamond area  gets it's name.
Glen

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Glen A. Jones

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From: Cuprum4445 at aol.com 
Glen,  This link tells about the current Hotel Diamond at  Diamond, Oregon, 
near Burns:
_Diamond  Hotel in the heart of the Steens Mountain and Malheur area of 
Eastern  Oregon_ (http://www.central-oregon.com/hoteldiamond/history.html) 
You might write the owners to see if they can help you find the  pictures you 
desire.
There is also a museum in Burns that might be able to help  you.
Gerrie 

In a message dated 8/11/2008 12:08:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Hope listers may be able to help.
This past week I was in Idaho and picked up a book at the Owyhee  County 
Historical Society,
Titled "Owyhee Cattlemen 1878-1978 100 years in the Saddle" By  Mildretta 
Adams Publisher "Owyhee Publishing" Homedale Idaho, the book  had a photo of my 
Great Grandfathers Ranch at Diamond Oregon near  Burns, (A. H. Robie Diamond 
Ranch).
The Publisher and the Owyhee County Historical Society have no  idea what 
happened to the photos after Mildretta passed away and many  people includeing 
myself have inquired about copies of some of the  photos in the book, all would 
like to know what happened to the photos  or if someone has them, I have sent 
this same message on the  Idaho Genweb, if anyone knows about these photos 
contact the publisher  or me, it would be a big loss to history and genealogy if 
these photos  are lost.
Mildretta was a Author and Curator of the Silver City Idaho  Museum until her 
death.

Glen Jones Portland, Oregon
_glenkc7mbm at comcast.net_ (mailto:glenkc7mbm at comcast.net) 

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Glen A.  Jones

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