[or-roots] Historical maps - 1851 Willamette Valley

Ray Powell rayp6217 at comcast.net
Sun Aug 24 19:02:54 PDT 2008


Thank you for the clarification. Perhaps the original requester could find the map on line at one of the government sites that Mr Preston mentioned as his sources. The page that the map is on gives no indication of its source but if I am allowed the liberty of assuming something, I would be willing to lay good odds that it came from the Archives Division of the Oregon State Library because in one spot he mentions that the maps in this book have been reproduced from maps which are on file at the Archives Divison of the Oregon State Library.

Ray Powell


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: LinLouVan at aol.com 
  To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us 
  Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [or-roots] Historical maps - 1851 Willamette Valley


  In a message dated 8/24/2008 8:30:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rayp6217 at comcast.net writes:
    For myself, I do not plan to publish anything, but as for the possible copy of the 1851 map for another lister, I can find no original copyright holder to contact. What little I know (or think I know) about copyright law, would indicate that the map, itself, has become public domain even if it was originally copyrighted. If anyone has any further info oncopyright and the length of time a copyright lasts and if and how many times it can be renewed, I think it would be pertinent to Oregon genealogy as all of us are always making photocopies of pictures and documents for our research and a few even plan to publish their work.
  As I understood the original requester, it was for a photocopy of a map from a copyrighted book.
  Even though the map itself might have been a government map and in the public domain, the book
  itself (or that particular compilation of maps) was copyrighted. That copyright would last 50 years 
  past the author's death -- or 75 years, unless renewed.

  The other thing the original requester stated was that this was to go into a work that is being
  published. There is where the care needs to be taken. Copying a single page from a book for one's
  personal genealogy (with proper citations) is usually classed as "fair use". However, publishing
  is quite another thing.

  I am certainly not a copyright authority, but I do have at my genealogy desk a copy of "The Copyright
  Handbook, How to protect & Use Written Works" by attorney Stephen Fishman, Fourth Edition published in 1997.

  Recently in our community, there was interest in using a lithographed fair poster from a 1914 event,
  altering the image and using it as new. I just happened to see that it originally came from Fair
  Publishing Co., went on line and found that the company started in 1880 and has been continuously
  in business since that time. I contacted them and, indeed they still own the rights to that lithographed
  image. They would reproduce and sell it to us again, but we could not reproduce and alter it.

  Linda VanOrden





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