[or-roots] Diamond Ranch, Oregon

Thu Aug 21 19:23:41 PDT 2008

Okay here I go assuming you have the "Owyhee Cattleman's Book"?  If so would
you look and see if the Stacey brother's brand is shown?

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Glen,

Mildretta Adams' Dedication page in the Owyhee Cattlemen book says:  "In
Appreciation  I wish to thank my daughter, Alene Downing, for her help and
encouragement in putting this book together.  To the many people whom I have
interviewed through the years, who loaned me pictures and helped in many
ways, I thank you.  It would be impossible to name all of you."  Mildretta
probably returned the pictures she used in her book to those she borrowed
them from.  

Sorry about that!    Gerrie

In a message dated 8/21/2008 12:57:59 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Anne

Yes! the publisher checked with the Descendents of Mildretta, supposedly
there were none of her photos or manuscripts in her home when she passed
away.

Glen

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Glen A. Jones

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From: Anne Clark <normanneclark at yahoo.com> 

Glen,

Have you checked with the decendents of Mildretta, or did she have any?  If
not,  who would have received her estate when she passed away?  You should
be able to trace this through probate records, obituaries, friends, etc.  

It was a great find for us once to receive some old family photos from a
friend who recognized some of the people  in the photos.  The photos were
priced at a dollar for a huge box of them,and the box was in a antique/junk
store in Burns. 

We had not had these photos in our possession before  he found them.  

Good luck on your search!

Anne

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Gerrie

One bad thing on Mildretta's book Owyee Cattlemen, is no one seems to know
what happened to her things after she passed away, none of her manuscripts
were found, a number of people have inquired of the publisher about copies
of photos from the book, we are hoping they have not been thrown away but
are stored somewhere and hope to locate them, so that those who would like
copies of the photos can get them and the publisher would like to republish
the book.

The Burns Library and Historical Socity are looking, as well as the Museum
at Murphy, and I have someone checking the museum at Grandview where
everything from the Silver City Museum was moved, I have also sent a letter
to Mike Hanley.

The Idaho Historical Society has nothing, that they can find anyway.

It would be a terrible loss to Genealogy and History if these photos and
data are lost.

Glen Jones Portland 

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Glen

I'm glad your ancestor has received proper credit in some history books.  I
probably saw the Robie name when we took a loop tour of the Malheur Wildlife
Refuge last year and and went to see the Diamond area.  My sister-in-law's
sister-in-law (that's not a typo!) works at the Diamond Hotel.  The bird
museum there is wonderful, but not as well kept as it used to be.  We
stopped at a store on that loop that has ranch related articles and lots of
good western books.  

In 1980, my father-in-law gave us Mildretta Adams' book: "Owyhee Cattlemen
1878 - 1978, 199 Years In The Saddle."  I just now pulled it from my
bookshelf & found good information on A. H. Robie on page 189, along with
the ranch photo. Eastern Oregonians will always be grateful to Mildretta
Adams and Mike Hanley for putting our side of Oregon down on paper for
posterity.  These authors show a passion for our history. 

My father-in-law, Don Stults was born in La Grande and moved with his family
to Jordan Valley in 1917 to homestead on the dry land high desert.  The last
of that family sold the ranch a few years ago, but we had one fun family
reunion there some time ago, while all but one of the siblings was living.
One of the aunties said that 10 acres of Treasure Valley soil produced much
better than 100 acres of the Jordan Valley homestead.  You can't beat the
Jordan Valley people and boy do they turn out for a former J. V. person's
funeral!

That Murphy, Idaho Museum and book store is a good one.  We went there this
year, and we couldn't resist buying Mike Hanley's newer book - it's at our
cabin now, and I can't remember it's name.  Mike's other passion is
researching & acurately restoring old stage coaches.  He drives them in
parades and has participated in wagon train recreations.  Mike's an amazing
guy.

Gerrie

Gerrie

In a message dated 8/20/2008 7:42:54 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Gerrie

Just to set the record straight, a number of history books for the area have
the correct info on the Diamond Area, I also have copies of the probate
records thanks to Sandy Flory, Oregon geographic names when the 8th edition
comes out will have corrected information about the Diamond Area and Ft.
(Camp) Harney also.

Glen

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It's frustrating when history gets recorded wrong, especially about our
families.  People quote poorly researched histories, without citing primary
sources, and they're trusted by people.  We genealogists know to check
original sources, but it's hard to change written "histories."  I don't know
of any way of setting records straight, other than writing our own family
history and incorporating our documentation.  Even if we do that though, our
books wouldn't be read by very many people.  

Glen should be able to obtain land records to prove his ancestor Albert Hugh
Robie was Mace McCoy's partner in the Diamond Ranch endeavor.  I'm sure I've
heard the Robie name in connection with Harney County history before.  We've
been to the Diamond area and we were pleased to learn from Glen how the area
got it's name from the cattle brand.  There might be an old cattle brand
book in Harney County showing the Diamond brand and it's owners.

How can we correct mistakes in history?  What do you listers suggest we do
with situations like Glen's problem?         Gerrie

In a message dated 8/17/2008 5:18:54 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

For all that may be interested the history on the Diamond hotel is not
entirely correct, Mace McCoy was a partner of my Great Grandfather Albert
Hugh Robie,Albert bought out Mace and was selling to Pete French when he
died, he was one of the men with Pete French and his cowhands when attacked
by the Bannocks at the start of that war, the Diamond was the cattle brand
that Mace and Albert Had and that is where the Diamond area gets it's name.

Glen

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Glen A. Jones

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Glen,  This link tells about the current Hotel Diamond at Diamond, Oregon,
near Burns:

Diamond <http://www.central-oregon.com/hoteldiamond/history.html>  Hotel in
the heart of the Steens Mountain and Malheur area of Eastern Oregon

You might write the owners to see if they can help you find the pictures you
desire.

There is also a museum in Burns that might be able to help you.

Gerrie 

In a message dated 8/11/2008 12:08:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
glenkc7mbm at comcast.net writes:

Hope listers may be able to help.

This past week I was in Idaho and picked up a book at the Owyhee County
Historical Society,

Titled "Owyhee Cattlemen 1878-1978 100 years in the Saddle" By Mildretta
Adams Publisher "Owyhee Publishing" Homedale Idaho, the book had a photo of
my Great Grandfathers Ranch at Diamond Oregon near Burns, (A. H. Robie
Diamond Ranch).

The Publisher and the Owyhee County Historical Society have no idea what
happened to the photos after Mildretta passed away and many people
includeing myself have inquired about copies of some of the photos in the
book, all would like to know what happened to the photos or if someone has
them, I have sent this same message on the Idaho Genweb, if anyone knows
about these photos contact the publisher or me, it would be a big loss to
history and genealogy if these photos are lost.

Mildretta was a Author and Curator of the Silver City Idaho Museum until her
death.

Glen Jones Portland, Oregon

glenkc7mbm at comcast.net

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