[or-roots] or-roots Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10
JOHN LAURA MCKINNEY
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Sat Mar 14 12:19:03 PDT 2009
OR pioneers> Hi, I have Jesse Wa. Pugh, wife Sarah, and his mother Mary (Donovan)Pugh coming in 1846. Just wanted to see if anyonelse has these lines. Thanks, Laura
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Glen !
How do I get a copy of the "150th", can I buy/order
online?
Ingrid
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Ingrid
You could probably have your bookstore in your area order it.
As I said it will not be released until April 8th. and the title is.
"Oregon at Work 1859-2009", I am not sure who will be shown as the Authors, it is complied by Worksource Oregon which is the State Employment Department.
Those of us who contributed to the book are invited to the release party at the Oregon State Capitol in Salem Oregon, there were many contributors from all over the State of Oregon, so there should be some great old photos in the book.
Glen
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Glen ! How do I get a copy of the "150th", can I buy/order online? Ingrid
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Thanks Glen,
I printed out your msg and will drop by the
bookstore today. I have a passion for old photos and books.
Ingrid
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I, too, enjoy this discussion about the Oregon Trail. One of my
gr-gr-grandfathers came in 1848 (Griffin), and the other in 1852 (Hamlin).
When I think about the hardships they faced as they traveled to and then settled
in this new land, it makes me very proud.
Darlene
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Subject: [or-roots] The Oregon
Trail
I love this discussion about the Oregon Trail. So many of us have
ancestors that traveled that trail and I worry that the history of the trail
over time is becoming diminished.
My early Oregon ancestors - Cox, King, McCarty - all came to Oregon via
the trail. They joined the many pioneers on their to Oregon in Missouri
and were among some of the earliest to arrive here. I am very proud of
my pioneer stock and am eager to finally begin to put that history together
for our family.
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The History of the Northwest as it is related to my family is one of my passions, one thing I have been trying to find is my Father's Step-Sister gave an interview on the Old Kvan Vancouver, Wa. radio stn. in the 1940's before she passed away on coming across the Oregon trail as a Child, one of the family used to have transcripts of that interview, unfortuneatly the one that had them passed away years ago and they may have been thown out.
I always urge anyone who has family data, photo albums Etc. that they do not want give them to a Genealogy or Historical Society, where they can be preserved, someone someday may want to see that information, a lot of history has been lost by just being thrown out my family members that did not want it.
Waiting for my wife to get ready have to be in Chehalis by 11 am.
Glen jones Portland
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I, too, enjoy this discussion about the Oregon Trail. One of my gr-gr-grandfathers came in 1848 (Griffin), and the other in 1852 (Hamlin). When I think about the hardships they faced as they traveled to and then settled in this new land, it makes me very proud. Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: GerryCT at aol.com To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:16 AM Subject: [or-roots] The Oregon Trail I love this discussion about the Oregon Trail. So many of us have ancestors that traveled that trail and I worry that the history of the trail over time is becoming diminished. My early Oregon ancestors - Cox, King, McCarty - all came to Oregon via the trail. They joined the many pioneers on their to Oregon in Missouri and were among some of the earliest to arrive here. I am very proud of my pioneer stock and am eager to finally begin to put that history together for our family. Gerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a job? Find employment help in your area. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
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Gerry
I see that one of your names is McCarty, there is a book out, "In Pursutt of The McCartys" by Jon M. & Donna McDaniel Skovlin, Reflections Publishing Company. Cove Oregon, 2001.
It has a lot of McCarty History in it, do not know if any are related to yours, but is interesting and has some of my family in it.
Glen Jones Portland, Oreogn
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I, too, enjoy this discussion about the Oregon Trail. One of my gr-gr-grandfathers came in 1848 (Griffin), and the other in 1852 (Hamlin). When I think about the hardships they faced as they traveled to and then settled in this new land, it makes me very proud. Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: GerryCT at aol.com To: or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:16 AM Subject: [or-roots] The Oregon Trail I love this discussion about the Oregon Trail. So many of us have ancestors that traveled that trail and I worry that the history of the trail over time is becoming diminished. My early Oregon ancestors - Cox, King, McCarty - all came to Oregon via the trail. They joined the many pioneers on their to Oregon in Missouri and were among some of the earliest to arrive here. I am very proud of my pioneer stock and am eager to finally begin to put that history together for our family. Gerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a job? Find employment help in your area. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ or-roots mailing list or-roots at listsmart.osl.state.or.us http://listsmart.osl.state.or.us/mailman/listinfo/or-roots
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Subject: [or-roots] Oregon Trail
I also love the history of the Oregon Trail and this
website 'or-roots' as all of you talk about old and new information about
the trail and our pioneer families. My grandmother showed us as kids old wagon
wheel ruts along the highway by Columbia River, Biggs Junction, Deschutes
River and Dalles, OR. I remember seeing the ruts closer to the
Dalles and they were on the side of a hill kind of. I can still visualize
it in my head like a picture. When I was a kid my mom actually drove her car on
the Barlow road at least that's what I remember it being and it was so
bumpy but fun. In my research now I see I am related to Samuel K Barlow though
his 2 son's who married Larkin sisters and then back from them the Plank
& Lydalls. My mother's side of family came on
the trail from Franklin Co., Missouri & Keokuck, Iowa in 1852 to Marion Co.
were McCubbins, Stevens. Then some went to Dayton, WA. to live & die,
married into the Flanagan, Parson, Eaton & more.
Nancy
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Thanks I'll do that!
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> you are most welcome to scan and post at the
> http://www.oregongravestones.org
>
> It is either Mountain View Cemetery or Pounder Cemetery now.
>
> David Samuelsen
>
> George Ross wrote:
>> While going through some of my photos I ran across a few photos I took of
>> headstones several years back. Not enough to post on line but wanted to
>> list them before I disposed of them. They are from the Pioneer Cemetery
>> in
>> Corbett, Oregon. I was doing research on Ervine Jasper Taylor. Corbett
>> was
>> previously named Taylors Landing....after EJ Taylor.
>>
>>
>> I did the following because my husband has an elusive Mary Evaline
>> Kincaid...but we couldn't connect them.
>> 1)Lucy E. Kincaid 1859-1937 Mother
>> 2)Louis Ralph Hulit son of Samuel & Elsie Hulit (Kincaid) February
>> 28-May
>> 11, 1907
>>
>> Most of my husband's Saunders line Long Creek, Oregon.....
>> 3)In Loving Memory of Myrtle E. Saunders Born Sept 8, 1868 Died May 15,
>> 1905
>>
>> 4)Taylor Homer L. February 22, 1921 - Jan 1, 2003 Margaret L July
>> 18,
>> 1922 -
>> Married Feb 17, 1939
>>
>>
>> If anyone would like these I would be happy to snail mail them or scan
>> and
>> email.
>>
>> George
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There is a look
at some of the trails on my website under Oregon Trail
101 by Prof. Jim Tompkins. That may answer some trail questions. Another good
source are the two books by Gregory Franzwa…Oregon Trail Maps and The Oregon Trail Revisited.
As much as I have worked with Oregon
pioneers for the past 25 years I still am not a trail buff so when in doubt I
refer to Greg’s books. They are available at most public libraries and are
available for purchase on the internet. Check the OCTA bookstore first.
Stephenie Flora
www.oregonpioneers.com/ortrail.htm
My Families: Acuff, Bartruff, Bewley, Greene, Lewis, Modlin, Patty
From:
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Subject: [or-roots] Wagon Trains
101
My family came by wagon train in 1859 to Genoa
( formerly Mormon Station) Nevada, relocated
to WallaWalla, WA
in 1883 and part of them branched off to establish a ranch in Wallowa, OR
in 1893. The question is how does one determine what trail was used
and what train they were part of? The balance of their train
continued on into CA. Can you also suggest a few good reads or websites on this
topic? Thanks !
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Thanks Stephanie,
I'll go to their site first. I have a short list of
books from the oregon.gov site for Wallowa County history books but the folks
there couldn't help as to whether or not my family was actually included in
them. I'd prefer to buy at the local level when at all possible, which seems to
be my little bookstore in town for some titles - will save on shipping &
handling.
Ingrid
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Hi Ingrid -
Have you ever came across the surnames Lydall, Downing.
They lived near Enterprise & Wallowa, OR. My
grandmother was a Lydall and her 1st husband was George Orin Downing of Wallowa,
OR.
Thanks, Nancy
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Thanks Stephanie,
I'll go to their site first. I have a short list of
books from the oregon.gov site for Wallowa County history books but the folks
there couldn't help as to whether or not my family was actually included in
them. I'd prefer to buy at the local level when at all possible, which seems
to be my little bookstore in town for some titles - will save on shipping
& handling.
Ingrid
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Hi Nancy, No I haven't to date even though Lydall does
bear some phonetic resemblance to Lightle. Are your Lydalls of
German/Bavarian/Swiss extraction having immigrated in the late 17's, very
earliest 18's? My name underwent some changes at entry into the US and not
uniformly across all family members (nothing as challenging as a puzzle with
lots of pieces missing in the box). That spelling does pop up with mine on
Soundex searches, I'll keep my eyes open.
Some of my easily traced Oregon ancestors included
Montgomery/Holloway by blood and Johnson/Stone by marriage (and plenty more to
be found). I've even tripped over some Hansens that come off my Father's
Mother's side. Ingrid
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Ingrid -
Yes, there are several different spellings for Lydall,
Lydell, Lytle and etc. I think my Lydalls were from England originally (not
sure), but my grandmother mother's family were German, Bavarian, Swiss on the
Plank side. When I get time I will research the spelling of your
name Lightle and mine Lydall & see what comes up as our families lived
in the same general area. You never know <g>
Nancy
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Hi Nancy, No I haven't to date even though Lydall does
bear some phonetic resemblance to Lightle. Are your Lydalls of
German/Bavarian/Swiss extraction having immigrated in the late 17's, very
earliest 18's? My name underwent some changes at entry into the US and not
uniformly across all family members (nothing as challenging as a puzzle with
lots of pieces missing in the box). That spelling does pop up with mine on
Soundex searches, I'll keep my eyes open.
Some of my easily traced Oregon ancestors included
Montgomery/Holloway by blood and Johnson/Stone by marriage (and plenty more to
be found). I've even tripped over some Hansens that come off my Father's
Mother's side. Ingrid
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Hi Nancy, Can you you give me full names and a time
frame to work with? Ingrid
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:35:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [or-roots] the Oregon Trail & Lytle Boulevard
Yes, all the Oregon Trail discussions have been fun. When I
read:
"Ingrid - Yes, there are several different spellings for Lydall, Lydell,
Lytle and etc. I think my Lydalls were from England originally (not sure),
but my grandmother mother's family were German, Bavarian, Swiss on the Plank
side. When I get time I will research the spelling of your
name Lightle and mine Lydall & see what comes up as our families lived
in the same general area. You never know <g> Nancy"
FYI: I did a search for "Lytle Boulevard" +Nyssa, Oregon, and
found the following information on the Nyssa, Oregon Chanber of
Commerce website:
"Lytle Boulevard Ruts: Oregon Trail wagon ruts are
visible today along Lytle Boulevard. Early travelers taking the "South Route"
(those who had crossed the Snake River before Fort Boise and followed the south
side of the river) met up with the main trail in this general area. An
interpretive site is located on Lytle Boulevard near Keeney
Pass." found at: http://www.nyssachamber.com/recreation.html
A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
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Hi, Nancy,
Name
Birth
Death
LYDALL, CHAS
Jul 31, 1913
Apr 01, 1980
Last residence: 97828 (Enterprise, Wallowa,
OR)
Last benefit: 97828 (Enterprise, Wallowa, OR)
Does this look like anything? It's from Obitfinder which
is helpful for searches from deaths occurring between 1930-2009. I also use the
LDS Family Search, especially the pilot Search from the search drop down menu
and this site is great too: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/or/county/wallowa/index.htm.
I shy away from commercial sites. At the Library is Heritage Quest and they also
may have World Vital Records free with a library card. The LDS Family history
centers are a great resource too. I've got some other favorites but they're not
coming to mind. I've started right clicking site addresses from the address bar
and dropping them onto my desktop because my favorites list is out of control
even with category buckets. Pages of maybe interest I put into folders in My
Documents for offline work and to save trees and toner.
Have Fun!
Ingrid
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:52:51 -0700
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Ingrid -
I will. I'm leaving for the day heading to
Yamhill soon to see family, but will soon as I can.
Thanks, Nancy
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Hi Nancy, Can you you give me full names and a time
frame to work with? Ingrid
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Hi "Cuprum"
I'll check that one too, Place names searches are fun -
I've done one on Lightle Flats (used MSN/Yahoo/Google) and got some images of my
great-grandfather's ranch. I've always appreciated pictures!
Ingrid
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:28:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wagon Trains 101
Ingrid -
Yes, Charles Lydall was
my grandmother's nephew. Charles father was Bruce Lydell/Lydall my
grandmother's uncle. And My grandmother's mother Sarah Alice (Plank) Lydall died
giving birth to my grandmother in 1891 Milton, OR. Her father William Lydall
remarried to a Hattie unknown in Wallowa, OR. They both died/buried in Tangent,
OR.
Nancy
1920 United States Federal Census
about Bessie R Lydell
Name:
Bessie R Lydell
Home in 1920:
Joseph, Wallowa, Oregon
Age:
40 years
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1880
Birthplace:
Michigan
Relation to Head of House:
Wife
Spouse's Name:
Bruce
Father's Birth Place:
United States of America
Mother's Birth Place:
Michigan
Marital Status:
Married
Race:
White
Sex:
Female
Able to read:
Yes
Able to Write:
Yes
Image:
516
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household Members:
Name
Age
Bruce Lydell
40
Bessie R Lydell
40
Wilbur D Lydell
18
Edna L Lydell
7
Charles H Lydell
6
Fannie C Lydell
1 8/12
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Subject: Re: [or-roots] Wagon Trains
101
Hi, Nancy,
Name
Birth
Death
LYDALL, CHAS
Jul 31, 1913
Apr 01, 1980
Last residence: 97828 (Enterprise, Wallowa,
OR)
Last benefit: 97828 (Enterprise, Wallowa,
OR)
Does this look like anything? It's from Obitfinder
which is helpful for searches from deaths occurring between 1930-2009. I also
use the LDS Family Search, especially the pilot Search from the search drop
down menu and this site is great too: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/or/county/wallowa/index.htm.
I shy away from commercial sites. At the Library is Heritage Quest and they
also may have World Vital Records free with a library card. The LDS Family
history centers are a great resource too. I've got some other favorites but
they're not coming to mind. I've started right clicking site addresses from
the address bar and dropping them onto my desktop because my favorites list is
out of control even with category buckets. Pages of maybe interest I put into
folders in My Documents for offline work and to save trees and
toner.
Have Fun!
Ingrid
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